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AGENDA NFPA Technical Committee on Board and Care Facilities
NFPA 101 and NFPA 5000 Second Draft Meeting Tuesday, July 19, 2016
Hilton Fort Lauderdale Marina Fort Lauderdale, Florida
1. Call to order. Call meeting to order by Chair Chad Beebe at 8:00 AM ET on
Tuesday, July 19, 2016.
2. Introduction of committee members and guests. For a current committee roster, see page 2.
3. Approval of August 24-25, 2015 first draft meeting minutes. See page 5.
4. The process – staff PowerPoint presentation. See page 8.
5. NFPA 101 Second Draft preparation. For Public Comments, see page 14.
6. NFPA 5000 Second Draft preparation. For Public Comments, see page 68. 7. NFPA 101/5000 Committee Input. See page 86.
8. NFPA 13D ITM requirements in BCF. T. Vecchiarelli
9. Hazardous Materials Task Group. J. Lathrop, W. Bonish, E. Rosenbaum 10. Other business.
11. Future meetings.
12. Adjournment.
Enclosures
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Address List No PhoneBoard and Care Facilities SAF-BCF
Safety to Life
Tracy L. Vecchiarelli06/07/2016
SAF-BCF
Chad E. Beebe
ChairASHE - AHAPO Box 5756Lacey, WA 98509-5756
U 7/23/2008SAF-BCF
Tracy L. Vecchiarelli
Secretary (Staff-Nonvoting)National Fire Protection Association1 Batterymarch ParkQuincy, MA 02169-7471
2/3/2016
SAF-BCF
Scott D. Allen
PrincipalLifeServices Management Corporation1625 Lowell AvenueErie, PA 16505
U 10/20/2010SAF-BCF
Roland A. Asp
PrincipalNational Fire Sprinkler Association, Inc.40 Jon Barrett RoadPatterson, NY 12563-2164Alternate: Terry L. Victor
M 10/28/2014
SAF-BCF
Tracey D. Bellamy
PrincipalTelgian Corporation900 Circle 75 Parkway, Suite 680Atlanta, GA 30339-3084
SE 03/07/2013SAF-BCF
Warren D. Bonisch
PrincipalAon Fire Protection Engineering Corporation1701 North Collins Blvd., Suite 235Richardson, TX 75080
I 7/1/1993
SAF-BCF
Harry L. Bradley
PrincipalMaryland State Fire Marshals Office5 West Riding DriveBel-Air, MD 21014International Fire Marshals Association
E 1/1/1985SAF-BCF
Richard L. Day
PrincipalMichigan State Fire Marshal's Office207 Jackson StreetAllegan, MI 49010-9156
E 07/29/2013
SAF-BCF
Martin J. Farraher
PrincipalSiemens Industry, Inc.5075 Houston RoadRockford, IL 61109-3882National Electrical Manufacturers AssociationAlternate: Stephen G. Rood
M 3/2/2010SAF-BCF
Adam C. Jones
PrincipalBuechel Fire Protection District4101 Bardstown RoadLouisville, KY 40218
E 10/18/2011
SAF-BCF
Philip R. Jose
PrincipalP. R. Jose & Associates25775 Point Mills Estates RoadHancock, MI 49930
SE 1/1/1987SAF-BCF
Henry Kowalenko
PrincipalIllinois Department of Public HealthOffice of Health Care Regulation525 West Jefferson Street, 4th FloorSpringfield, IL 62761
E 10/20/2010
SAF-BCF
Peter A. Larrimer
PrincipalUS Department of Veterans Affairs1805 Constitution BlvdValencia, PA 16059
U 03/07/2013SAF-BCF
Randy S. McDermott
PrincipalUS Department of Health & Human ServicesCenters for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS)1301 Young Street, Suite 827Dallas, TX 75202Alternate: Kurtis Grant
E 3/4/2008
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Address List No PhoneBoard and Care Facilities SAF-BCF
Safety to Life
Tracy L. Vecchiarelli06/07/2016
SAF-BCF
David E. Mills
PrincipalUL LLC333 Pfingsten RoadNorthbrook, IL 60062-2096Alternate: Kerry M. Bell
RT 03/05/2012SAF-BCF
Daniel E. Nichols
PrincipalState of New York Department of State99 Washington Avenue, #1160Albany, NY 12231
E 10/27/2009
SAF-BCF
Gayanne Coral Pacholzuk
PrincipalKelowna Fire DepartmentFire Prevention Branch2255 Enterprise WayKelowna, BC V1Y 8B3 Canada
E 12/08/2015SAF-BCF
John A. Rickard
PrincipalP3 Consulting5838 Balcones Drive, Suite BAustin, TX 78731-4206Alternate: Adrian Hal Key
SE 8/5/2009
SAF-BCF
Carter J. Rierson
PrincipalBest Defense Fire Protection300 Moravian Valley RoadWaunakee, WI 53597
IM 10/23/2013SAF-BCF
Eric R. Rosenbaum
PrincipalJENSEN HUGHES3610 Commerce Drive, Suite 817Baltimore, MD 21227-1652American Health Care Association
U 03/07/2013
SAF-BCF
Terry Schultz
PrincipalCode Consultants, Inc.2043 Woodland Parkway, Suite 300St. Louis, MO 63146-4235Alternate: Kaitlin McGillvray
SE 8/5/2009SAF-BCF
Joshua Talley
PrincipalKoffel Associates, Inc.8815 Centre Park Drive, Suite 200Columbia, MD 21045-2107Alternate: James K. Lathrop
SE 10/28/2014
SAF-BCF
Jon Taluba
PrincipalRussell Phillips & Associates, LLC500 Cross Keys Office ParkFairport, NY 14450-3507Alternate: Nicholas E. Gabriele
SE 3/4/2009SAF-BCF
Yunyong P. Utiskul
PrincipalExponent, Inc.17000 Science Drive, Suite 200Bowie, MD 20715-4427Alternate: Andrew Blum
SE 08/09/2012
SAF-BCF
Fred Worley
PrincipalTexas Department of Aging & Disability ServicesLong Term Care Regulatory DivisionPO Box 149030, Mail Code E-250Austin, TX 78714
E 03/05/2012SAF-BCF
Kerry M. Bell
AlternateUL LLC333 Pfingsten RoadNorthbrook, IL 60062-2096Principal: David E. Mills
RT 4/1/1993
SAF-BCF
Andrew Blum
AlternateExponent, Inc.3350 Peachtree Road NE, Suite 1125Atlanta, GA 30326-1039Principal: Yunyong P. Utiskul
SE 10/27/2009SAF-BCF
Nicholas E. Gabriele
AlternateRussell Phillips & Associates, LLC31 Cooke StreetPlainville, CT 06062Principal: Jon Taluba
SE 10/23/2013
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Address List No PhoneBoard and Care Facilities SAF-BCF
Safety to Life
Tracy L. Vecchiarelli06/07/2016
SAF-BCF
Kurtis Grant
AlternateUS Department of Health & Human ServicesCenters for Medicare & Medicaid ServicesDivision of Survey and Certification61 Forsyth Street SW, Suite 4T20Atlanta, GA 30303-8909Principal: Randy S. McDermott
E 04/08/2015SAF-BCF
Adrian Hal Key
AlternateP3 Consulting1015 Stoneport LaneAllen, TX 75002-3929Principal: John A. Rickard
SE 04/05/2016
SAF-BCF
James K. Lathrop
AlternateKoffel Associates, Inc.81 Pennsylvania AvenueNiantic, CT 06357Principal: Joshua Talley
SE 1/1/1991SAF-BCF
Kaitlin McGillvray
AlternateCode Consultants, Inc.215 West 40th Street, 15th FlorNew York, NY 10018Principal: Terry Schultz
SE 3/2/2010
SAF-BCF
Stephen G. Rood
AlternateLegrand North AmericaPO Box 4822Syracuse, NY 13221-4822National Electrical Manufacturers AssociationPrincipal: Martin J. Farraher
M 08/17/2015SAF-BCF
Terry L. Victor
AlternateTyco/SimplexGrinnell705 Digital Drive, Suite NLinthicum, MD 21090-2267National Fire Sprinkler AssociationPrincipal: Roland A. Asp
M 12/08/2015
SAF-BCF
Tracy L. Vecchiarelli
Staff LiaisonNational Fire Protection Association1 Batterymarch ParkQuincy, MA 02169-7471
2/3/2016
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MINUTES
NFPA Technical Committee on Board and Care Facilities
NFPA 101 and NFPA 5000 First Draft Meeting August 24, 2015
InterContinental Milwaukee
Milwaukee, WI
1. The meeting was called to order by Chair Chad Beebe at 8:00 AM (CDT) on
Monday, August 24, 2015.
2. Self-introductions of committee members and guests were made.
TECHNICAL COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT
NAME COMPANY
Chad Beebe, Chair ASHE - AHA
Tracey Bellamy, Principal Telgian Corporation
Warren Bonisch, Principal Aon Corporation
Harry Bradley, Principal Maryland State Fire Marshal’s Office
Rep.: International Fire Marshals
Association
Martin Farraher, Principal Siemens Industry, Inc.
Rep.: National Electrical Manufacturers
Association
Henry Kowalenko, Principal Illinois Department of Public Health
Peter Larrimer, Principal US Department of Veteran Affairs
John Rickard, Principal P3 Consulting
Carter Rierson, Principal Best Defense Security Systems Inc.
Eric Rosenbaum, Principal JENSEN HUGHES
Terry Schultz, Principal Code Consultants, Inc.
Joshua Talley, Principal Koffel Associates, Inc.
Jon Taluba, Principal Russel Philips & Associates, LLC
Fred Worley, Principal Texas Department of Aging & Disability
Services
Roland Asp, Alt. to C. Gaut National Fire Sprinkler Association
James Lathrop, Alt. to J. Talley Koffel Associates, Inc.
Michelle Mucia, Alt. to T. Bellamy Telgian Corporation
Yunyong Utiskul, Alt. to A. Blum Exponent, Inc.
Gregory Harrington, Staff Liaison National Fire Protection Association
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TECHNICAL COMMITTEE PRINCIPAL MEMBERS NOT PRESENT
(NOT LISTED WHERE ALTERNATE ATTENDED)
NAME COMPANY
Scott Allen, Principal LifeServices Management Corporation
Richard Day, Principal Michigan State Fire Marshal’s Office
Adam Jones, Principal Buechel Fire Protection District
Phillip Jose, Principal P.R. Jose & Associates
Cindy Mahan, Principal Friendship Community Care, Inc.
Rep.: American Network of Community
Options & Resources
Randy McDermott, Principal US Department of Health & Human Services
David Mills, Principal UL LLC
Daniel Nichols, Principal State of New York Department of State
GUESTS PRESENT
NAME COMPANY
Daniel De Hanes NEMA – Ascom Wireless Solution
Josh Elvove
Dan Finnegan Siemens
Marshall Klein Klein & Assoc., Inc.
James Rickard P3 Consulting
3. Approval of June 25, 2013 second draft meeting minutes. The previous meeting
minutes were approved as submitted.
4. The process – staff PowerPoint presentation. Staff provided an overview of the
first draft meeting procedures. See the meeting agenda for the PowerPoint slides.
5. Correlating Committee minutes with direction for 2018 editions.
a. CO detection: The committee reviewed the CC direction and developed
applicable first revisions – see the first draft.
b. “Life safety” sprinkler systems: The committee reviewed the CC direction;
no action. The TC will await the report from the upcoming life safety
sprinkler system workshop to be hosted by NFPA in December.
c. NFPA 13R attic protection: The committee reviewed the CC direction; no
action. The TC will await the report from the upcoming life safety sprinkler
system workshop to be hosted by NFPA in December.
6. Core chapters, first revisions of interest – staff review. Staff provided an overview
of the core chapter revisions of interest to the TC. Revisions and CIs were developed
as appropriate – see the first draft report.
7. NFPA 101 First Draft preparation. The TC reviewed the NFPA 101 PIs and
developed FRs and CIs as applicable – see the NFPA 101 first draft report.
8. NFPA 5000 First Draft preparation. The TC reviewed the NFPA 5000 PIs and
developed FRs and CIs as applicable – see the NFPA 5000 first draft report.
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9. NFPA 13D/13R provisions. The TC reviewed the correspondence included in the
agenda package and determined no action was needed.
10. New-large BCF corridor width and doors. The TC reviewed the correspondence
included in the agenda package and determined no action was needed. Corridors can
be widened at cross-corridor door openings to facilitate the required door widths.
11. NFPA 13D ITM requirements in BCFs. The TC reviewed the correspondence
included in the agenda package. The 2018 edition of NFPA 101 will reference the
2017 edition of NFPA 25, which is not yet available. A global committee input was
developed to serve as a placeholder for the second draft to update the NFPA 25 cross-
references in 32.2.3.5.8 and 33.2.3.5.8 of NFPA 101. Staff will provide draft second
revisions for the next meeting.
12. Other business. The Chair directed the Hazardous Material Task Group (J. Lathrop,
W. Bonisch, and E. Rosenbaum) to review the proposed language in 7.2.12 and the
referenced documents (NFPA 30, 45, 55, 58, 400, and 495) to determine their
applicability to board and care facilities and report back to the TC at the next meeting.
13. Future meetings. The second draft (public comment) meetings will be held Q3-2016
at a location TBD. Details will be provided when they are available.
14. Adjournment. The meeting adjourned at 5:00 PM on Monday, August 24, 2015.
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Public Comment No. 42-NFPA 101-2016 [ New Section after 7.2.1.5.3 ]
New Section
Additional Proposed Changes
File Name Description Approved
101_CCN_45.pdf 101 CC Note #45 ✓
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 45 in the First Draft Report. The Correlating Committee directs the occupancy committees (AXM, BCF, DET, END, RES, MER, IND, HEA) to review the additional door locking allowances that are being proposed in FCR-6.
This action will be considered as a public comment.
Related Item
Correlating Committee Note No. 45-NFPA 101-2016 [New Section after 7.2.1.5.3]
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: CC ON SAF_AAC
Organization: NFPA CC ON SAFETY TO LIFE
Street Address:
City:
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Zip:
Submittal Date: Thu Mar 03 15:06:01 EST 2016
Copyright Assignment
I, CC ON SAF_AAC, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including boththe Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of theNFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power andauthority to enter into this copyright assignment.
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Correlating Committee Note No. 45-NFPA 101-2016 [ New Section after 7.2.1.5.3 ]
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: SAF-AAC
Organization: [ Not Specified ]
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Fri Jan 08 11:51:19 EST 2016
Committee Statement and Meeting Notes
CommitteeStatement:
The Correlating Committee directs the occupancy committees (AXM, BCF, DET, END, RES, MER, IND, HEA) to review theadditional door locking allowances that are being proposed in FCR-6.
This action will be considered as a public comment.
Ballot Results
This item has passed ballot
11 Eligible Voters
0 Not Returned
11 Affirmative All
0 Affirmative with Comments
0 Negative with Comments
0 Abstention
Affirmative All
Bush, Kenneth E.
Hopper, Howard
Hrustich, Stephen
Hugo, Jeffrey M.
Kalie, Jr., J. Edmund
Koffel, William E.
Pauls, Jake
Quiter, James R.
Reiswig, Rodger
Reynolds, Ronald C.
Rosenbaum, Eric R.
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First Correlating Revision No. 6-NFPA 101-2016 [ New Section after 7.2.1.5.10.6 ]
7.2.1.5.10.7
Two releasing operations shall be permitted for educational occupancy classroom doors secured against unwanted entry inaccordance with the provisions of Chapter 15 .
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: SAF-AAC
Organization: [ Not Specified ]
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Fri Jan 08 07:55:19 EST 2016
Committee Statement and Meeting Notes
Committee Statement: The new provision of 7.2.1.5.10.7 is needed so that the new provisions of 15.2.2.2.4 do not conflict with Chapter 7.
Ballot Results
This item has passed ballot
11 Eligible Voters
0 Not Returned
11 Affirmative All
0 Affirmative with Comments
0 Negative with Comments
0 Abstention
Affirmative All
Bush, Kenneth E.
Hopper, Howard
Hrustich, Stephen
Hugo, Jeffrey M.
Kalie, Jr., J. Edmund
Koffel, William E.
Pauls, Jake
Quiter, James R.
Reiswig, Rodger
Reynolds, Ronald C.
Rosenbaum, Eric R.
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Public Comment No. 16-NFPA 101-2016 [ New Section after 9.13 ]
Add New Section after 9.13
Additional Proposed Changes
File Name Description Approved
101_CCN_16.pdf 101 CC Note #16 ✓
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 16 in the First Draft Report. The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Fundamentals (FUN) and the occupancy committees (AXM, END, HEA, BCF, RES, DET, MER, IND) to review the proposed change and determine if further changes are needed in the Code. The Correlating Committee will revisit the scope of the TC on Building Service and Fire Protection Equipment (BSF) after they propose any desired changes.
This action will be considered as a public comment.
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Correlating Committee Note No. 16-NFPA 101-2016 [New Section after 9.13]
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: CC ON SAF_AAC
Organization: NFPA CC ON SAFETY TO LIFE
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
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Correlating Committee Note No. 16-NFPA 101-2016 [ New Section after 9.13 ]
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The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Fundamentals (FUN) and the occupancy committees (AXM, END, HEA, BCF, RES,DET, MER, IND) to review the proposed change and determine if further changes are needed in the Code. The CorrelatingCommittee will revisit the scope of the TC on Building Service and Fire Protection Equipment (BSF) after they propose any desiredchanges.
This action will be considered as a public comment.
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0 Abstention
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Bush, Kenneth E.
Hopper, Howard
Hrustich, Stephen
Hugo, Jeffrey M.
Kalie, Jr., J. Edmund
Koffel, William E.
Pauls, Jake
Quiter, James R.
Reiswig, Rodger
Reynolds, Ronald C.
Rosenbaum, Eric R.
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First Revision No. 1006-NFPA 101-2015 [ New Section after 9.13 ]
9.14 Risk Analysis for Mass Notification Systems.
9.14.1 Where Required.
Where required by Chapters 11 through 43 , a risk analysis for mass notification systems shall be provided in accordance with therequirements of NFPA 72 and the provisions of 9.14.2 through 9.14.4 .
9.14.2 Considerations.
The risk analysis required by 9.14.1 shall additionally address all of the following considerations:
(1) Fire and non-fire emergencies
(2) Specific nature and anticipated risks of each facility
(3) Characteristics of associated buildings, areas, spaces, campuses, equipment, and operations
9.14.3 Emergency Communications System.
An emergency communications system in accordance with NFPA 72 shall be provided where need for such is identified by the riskanalysis required by 9.14.1 , commensurate with the likelihood, vulnerability, magnitude, and potential consequences ofemergencies.
9.14.4 Emergency Action Plan.
The completed emergency action plan in accordance with Section 4.8 shall be used for the design of the massnotification/emergency communications system.
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CommitteeStatement:
This first revision seeks to provide a requirement to conduct a risk analysis and create an emergency action plan for occupancieswhere required by Chapters 11-43. The need for effective emergency communications in the United States came into sharp focus inthe 20th century in response to threats to homeland security and our educational occupancies. We have learned from the recentincidents that occurred in our college/university campuses, and other buildings, and have created installation guidelines to befollowed for life safety. [Aurora, CO. Theater 2012; Columbine 1999; Virginia Tech 2007; Sandy Hook 2012; WeatherTornadoes/Storms]. //
The National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) School Safety, Codes and Security Workshop was held December 3–4, 2014 inCollege Park, Maryland, and was sponsored and hosted by NFPA. The resulting report highlights the need for real timecommunication systems in appropriate occupancies. //
NFPA 72, National Fire Alarm and Signaling Code, has a chapter dedicated to emergency communication systems. This containsthe detailed information on the risk analysis and emergency action plan as required in the above proposed sections. //
This is NOT intended to require a mass notification system. There are many elements contained within a mass notification system.The process of the risk analysis will outline what is needed based on risk and engineering study for the occupancy. It will be theresponsibility of the occupancy to react to the risk assessment. //
A task group has been appointed to further review the location of the proposed material in Ch. 9. The committee requests theCorrelating Committee review this action in conjunction with any related actions by the TC on Fundamentals and the occupancychapter committees to ensure the provisions are appropriately coordinated. The committee also requests the Correlating Committeereview the scope of the TC on Building Service and Fire Protection Equipment to recommend any needed changes to accommodatethe addition of the proposed language.
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This item has passed ballot
28 Eligible Voters
5 Not Returned
22 Affirmative All
0 Affirmative with Comments
1 Negative with Comments
0 Abstention
Not Returned
Chen, Flora F.
Donga, Paul M.
Grill, Raymond A.
Noveh, James
Szmanda, Michael R.
Affirmative All
Bradley, Harry L.
Brinkman, Kevin L.
Brock, Pat D.
Dale, Stephen E.
Hagood, Claudia
Hammerberg, Thomas P.
Hugo, Jeffrey M.
Hutton, Claude O.
Jardin, Joseph M.
Kellett, Michael
Killian, David A.
Klepitch, David L.
Lazarz, Daniel J.
Moore, Wayne D.
Panowitz, Scott E.
Reiswig, Rodger
Roberts, Richard Jay
Ruchala, Kurt A.
Shudak, Lawrence J.
Warner, Todd W.
Wren, Carl D.
Wyatt, David M.
Negative with Comment
Larrimer, Peter A.
As written, this is not ready to be accepted in the Life Safety Code. The text has numerous problems.
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Public Comment No. 83-NFPA 101-2016 [ Section No. 32.1.1.7 ]
32
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1.1.7
Where construction, alteration, or demolition operations are conducted, the provisions of 4.6.10.2 shall apply.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
See my negative ballot. Adding this section will not solve any problems, but it will introduce conflicts. While NFPA 241 addresses means of egress, it doesn't address means of escape.
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First Revision No. 521-NFPA 101-2015 [New Section after 32.1.1.6]
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Public Comment No. 32-NFPA 101-2016 [ New Section after 32.1.8 ]
New Section
Additional Proposed Changes
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101_CCN_33.pdf 101 CC Note #30
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 33 in the First Draft Report. The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Board and Care Facilities (BCF) to consider the Negative ballot of Larrimer noting that small board and care facilities do not have means of egress; they have means of escape.
This action will be considered as a public comment.
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Correlating Committee Note No. 33-NFPA 101-2016 [New Section after 32.1.8]
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Correlating Committee Note No. 33-NFPA 101-2016 [ New Section after 32.1.8 ]
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Committee Statement and Meeting Notes
CommitteeStatement:
The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Board and Care Facilities (BCF) to consider the Negative ballot of Larrimer notingthat small board and care facilities do not have means of egress; they have means of escape.
This action will be considered as a public comment.
Ballot Results
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0 Not Returned
11 Affirmative All
0 Affirmative with Comments
0 Negative with Comments
0 Abstention
Affirmative All
Bush, Kenneth E.
Hopper, Howard
Hrustich, Stephen
Hugo, Jeffrey M.
Kalie, Jr., J. Edmund
Koffel, William E.
Pauls, Jake
Quiter, James R.
Reiswig, Rodger
Reynolds, Ronald C.
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First Revision No. 515-NFPA 101-2015 [ New Section after 32.1.8 ]
32.1.9 Hazardous Materials.
Where hazardous materials are present the provisions of 7.12.2 shall apply.
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CommitteeStatement:
The revision incorporates the means of egress provisions of 7.12.2 for both small and large facilities where hazardousmaterials are present.
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Ballot Results
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23 Eligible Voters
2 Not Returned
20 Affirmative All
0 Affirmative with Comments
1 Negative with Comments
0 Abstention
Not Returned
Jones, Adam C.
Mills, David E.
Affirmative All
Allen, Scott D.
Asp, Roland A.
Beebe, Chad E.
Bellamy, Tracey D.
Blum, Andrew
Bonisch, Warren D.
Bradley, Harry L.
Day, Richard L.
Farraher, Martin J.
Jose, Philip R.
Kowalenko, Henry
McDermott, Randy S.
Nichols, Daniel E.
Rickard, John A.
Rierson, Carter J.
Rosenbaum, Eric R.
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Schultz, Terry
Talley, Joshua
Taluba, Jon
Worley, Fred
Negative with Comment
Larrimer, Peter A.
What is to be solved with this requirement? The new requirement reference 7.12.2 which requires means of egress to comply with other codes.However, small board and care facilities don’t have a means of egress. They have a means of escape. Do we want to apply means of egressrequirements from other standards to board and care facilities? What is broken that we need to add this?
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Public Comment No. 84-NFPA 101-2016 [ Section No. 32.1.9 ]
32.1.9 Hazardous Materials.
Where hazardous materials are present the provisions of 7.12.2 shall apply.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
The committee statement says: "The revision incorporates the means of egress provisions of 7.12.2 for both small and large facilities where hazardous materials are present." Adding this requirement will not solve any issues and will create problems. There is no means of egress is a small board and care as the chapter uses means of escape. While NFPA 30, which is referenced, has specific occupancy requirements, it doesn't have any board and care occupancy requirements. Please delete this unnecessary requirement unless it is shown that there is something specific that it is to address.
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First Revision No. 515-NFPA 101-2015 [New Section after 32.1.8]
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Public Comment No. 85-NFPA 101-2016 [ Section No. 32.2.3.2.6 ]
32.2.3.2.6
Where hazardous materials are stored or handled, the provisions of 8.7.3.1 shall apply.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
Adding this requirement will not solve any issues and will create problems. There is no means of egress in a small board and care as the chapter uses means of escape. While NFPA 30, which is referenced, has specific occupancy requirements, it doesn't have any board and care occupancy requirements. NFPA 30 also address means of egress requirements which would not be applicable to small board and care occupancies. Please delete this unnecessary requirement unless it is shown that there is something specific that it is to address.
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First Revision No. 517-NFPA 101-2015 [New Section after 32.2.3.2.5]
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Public Comment No. 86-NFPA 101-2016 [ Section No. 32.2.3.4.1 ]
32.2.3.4.1 General.
A manual fire alarm system shall be provided in accordance with Section 9.6.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
See my negative ballot.
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First Revision No. 502-NFPA 101-2015 [Section No. 32.2.3.4.1]
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Public Comment No. 162-NFPA 101-2016 [ Section No. 32.2.3.4.2 ]
32.2.3.4.2 Initiation.
Initiation of the required fire alarm system shall be by one of the following means:
(1) Manual means in accordance with 9.6.2.1(1)
(2) Automatic sprinkler system that complies with 9.6.2.1(3) and provides protection throughout the building .
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
The term "throughout" means sprinkler are installed in all of the places required by the standard and omitted in spaces where specifically addressed by that standard. Throughout is used in NFPA 13 and NFPA 13R, but not in NFPA 13D. Adding "throughout" will be confusing to the user of the code. Does it mean as it does in the standard or is the Life Safety Code taking this one step further? By removing the "throughout" language it keeps the intent of the FR.
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Public Comment No. 165-NFPA 101-2016 [Section No. 33.2.3.4.2]
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First Revision No. 502-NFPA 101-2015 [Section No. 32.2.3.4.1]
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Public Comment No. 34-NFPA 101-2016 [ Section No. 32.2.3.4.2 ]
32.2.3.4.2 Initiation.
Initiation of the required fire alarm system shall be by one of the following means:
(1) Manual means in accordance with 9.6.2.1(1)
(2) Automatic sprinkler system that complies with 9.6.2.1(3) and provides protection throughout the building the provisions of32.2.3.5.
Additional Proposed Changes
File Name Description Approved
101_CCN_35.pdf 101 CC Note #35
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 35 in the First Draft Report. The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Board and Care Facilities (BCF) to consider the Negative ballot of Larrimer noting that 32.3.3.4.2(2) requires the sprinklers to provide protection throughout the building yet where NFPA 13D or NFPA 13R systems are used the sprinklers are not provided “throughout”. The provision of 32.2.3.4.2(2) could be reworded to read:(2) Automatic sprinkler system that complies with 9.6.2.1(3) and the provisions of 32.2.3.5. This action will be considered as a public comment.
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Correlating Committee Note No. 35-NFPA 101-2016 [ Section No. 32.2.3.4.1 ]
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Committee Statement and Meeting Notes
CommitteeStatement:
The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Board and Care Facilities (BCF) to consider the Negative ballot of Larrimer notingthat 32.3.3.4.2(2) requires the sprinklers to provide protection throughout the building yet where NFPA 13D or NFPA 13R systemsare used the sprinklers are not provided “throughout”. The provision of 32.2.3.4.2(2) could be reworded to read:
(2) Automatic sprinkler system that complies with 9.6.2.1(3) and the provisions of 32.2.3.5.
This action will be considered as a public comment.
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0 Abstention
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Bush, Kenneth E.
Hopper, Howard
Hrustich, Stephen
Hugo, Jeffrey M.
Kalie, Jr., J. Edmund
Koffel, William E.
Pauls, Jake
Quiter, James R.
Reiswig, Rodger
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First Revision No. 502-NFPA 101-2015 [ Section No. 32.2.3.4.1 ]
32.2.3.4.1 General.
A manual fire alarm system shall be provided in accordance with Section 9.6 .
32.2.3.4.2 Initiation.
Initiation of the required fire alarm system shall be by one of the following means:
(1) Manual means in accordance with 9.6.2.1(1)
(2) Automatic sprinkler system that complies with 9.6.2.1(3) and provides protection throughout the building
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Committee Statement and Meeting Notes
Committee Statement: Use statement from agenda p. 41.
It also recognized that automatic sprinklers are a viable option for initiation of the fire alarm system.
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Date Submitted By
Aug 28, 2015 Gregory Harrington Renumber successive para's accordingly.
Public Input No. 29-NFPA 101-2015 [Section No. 32.2.3.4.1]
Ballot Results
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23 Eligible Voters
2 Not Returned
20 Affirmative All
0 Affirmative with Comments
1 Negative with Comments
0 Abstention
Not Returned
Jones, Adam C.
Mills, David E.
Affirmative All
Allen, Scott D.
Asp, Roland A.
Beebe, Chad E.
Bellamy, Tracey D.
Blum, Andrew
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Bonisch, Warren D.
Bradley, Harry L.
Day, Richard L.
Farraher, Martin J.
Jose, Philip R.
Kowalenko, Henry
McDermott, Randy S.
Nichols, Daniel E.
Rickard, John A.
Rierson, Carter J.
Rosenbaum, Eric R.
Schultz, Terry
Talley, Joshua
Taluba, Jon
Worley, Fred
Negative with Comment
Larrimer, Peter A.
It appears that this change is going to create some problems. 1. 32.2.3.4.2 (2) states "...and provides protection throughout the building" Whatdoes that mean with respect to a 13D and a 13R system that, by design, is not throughout the building like a 13 system? 2. 32.2.3.5.6 requires thefire alarm to be initiated with a partial sprinkler system. This should be added or somehow addressed. 3. The base paragraph says that the firealarm system should be initiated by either or, but it appears that presently, both are required to initiate the alarm. 4. 32.2.3.5.4 requires the 13 or13R system to be supervised, but 32.2.3.5.5 doesn't mandate a 13D system to be supervised. It is one of the three options. Leaving the languagein the code without making this change will reduce these conflicting issues.
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Public Comment No. 87-NFPA 101-2016 [ Section No. 32.2.3.4.2 ]
32.2.3.4.2 Initiation.
Initiation of the required fire alarm system shall be by one of the following means:
(1) Manual means in accordance with 9.6.2.1(1)
(2) Automatic sprinkler system that complies with 9.6.2.1(3) and provides protection throughout the building
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
The intent is to return the language to the previous edition based on my negative comments.
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Public Comment No. 139-NFPA 101-2016 [ Section No. 32.2.5 ]
32.2.5 Building Services.
32.2.5.1 Utilities.
Utilities shall comply with Section 9.1.
32.2.5.2 Heating, Ventilating, and Air-Conditioning.
32.2.5.2.1
Heating, ventilating, and air-conditioning equipment shall comply with 9.2.1 and 9.2.2, unless otherwise required in this chapter.
32.2.5.2.2
No stove or combustion heater shall be located to block escape in case of fire caused by the malfunction of the stove or heater.
32.2.5.2.3
Unvented fuel-fired heaters shall not be used in any residential board and care facility.
32.2.5.3 Elevators, Escalators, and Conveyors.
Elevators, escalators, and conveyors shall comply with Section 9.4.
32.2.5.4 Call Systems
When the residential board and care occupancy is required by state or local code to be equipped with a Call System for resident tostaff communication, the Call System shall be in accordance with section 32.3.5.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
2015 Glossary Term 3.3.190.12* Residential Board and Care Occupancy is defined as: “An occupancy used for lodging and boarding of four or more residents, not related by blood or marriage to the owners or operators, for the purpose of providing personal care services.” – This definition applies to occupancies commonly referred to as Assisted Living Facilities.
As more and more residential board and care facilities are developed and constructed, state legislatures and local jurisdictions are beginning to draft regulatory codes requiring implementation of a Call System for these occupancies. Most often, they rely on NEMA to provide guidance and to propose code language for which kind of Call System is most appropriate for a residential care facility.
While the NFPA 99 Health Care Facilities Code requires a Nurse Call System which is “listed” to the ANSI/UL 1069 Safety Standard for Hospital Signaling and Nurse Call Equipment, that standard is specifically applicable for NFPA 99 Category 1 and Category 2 facilities (i.e., acute care and nursing home facilities respectively). But for Residential Board and Care Facilities, a UL1069 listed Nurse Call System is not necessarily a proper system choice. Instead, an Emergency Call System which is “listed” to the ANSI/UL 2560 Safety Standard for Assisted Living and Independent Living Facilities is a much more appropriate system type. Systems “listed” to the ANSI/UL 2560 standard are specifically designed to the unique requirements of residential board and care occupancies. Hence, facility owners and operators of residential board and care facilities will install an Emergency Call System that conforms with the requirements specified in the ANSI/UL 2560 standard rather than installing a Nurse Call System that is “listed” to the ANSI/UL 1069 standard.
The problem is, a system that is “not-listed” to an electrical safety standard does not provide the same level of reliability as does one which has been tested, evaluated and “listed” by a Nationally Recognized Testing Laboratory (NRTL). Bear in mind, a Call System gets installed by factory trained technicians and becomes a part of a facility’s infrastructure and building system operations. A Call System “listed” to ANSI/UL 2560 provides 3rd Party tested and audited assurance of safeguards against critical hazards such as fire and electrical shock whereas, a non-listed (rogue) system would not have been independently assessed or audited as providing such assurance.
Think of it this way, would any NFPA code allow for a non-listed Smoke Detection, CO or Fire Alarm System to be installed in any type of facility or occupancy? An Emergency Call System, Nurse Call System and Fire Alarm System are all categorically referred to as a “Life Safety System” and hence, rely upon a “listing” with an independent NRTL to provide assurance of continued reproducibility of safe and effective system operation.
An Emergency Call System that is “listed” to the ANSI/UL 2560 safety standard provides a level of safety against electrical and fire hazards that is state-of-the-art current best practice and which is comparable to that of a “listed” Nurse Call System (ANSI/UL 1069 – NFPA 99) and even to a “listed” Fire Alarm System (ANSI/UL 864 – NFPA 72).
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Public Comment No. 88-NFPA 101-2016 [ Section No. 32.3.3.2.4 ]
32.3.3.2.4
Where hazardous materials are stored or handled, the provisions of 8.7.3.1 shall apply.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
While NFPA 30, which is referenced, has specific occupancy requirements, it doesn't have any board and care occupancy requirements. Please delete this unnecessary requirement unless it is shown that there is something specific that it is to address. There will be unintended negative consequences added if this is accepted.
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First Revision No. 518-NFPA 101-2015 [New Section after 32.3.3.2.2]
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Submitter Full Name: Peter Larrimer
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Public Comment No. 36-NFPA 101-2016 [ Section No. 32.3.3.6.2 ]
32.3.3.6.2
Sleeping rooms shall be separated from all spaces, other than adjacent sleeping rooms, adjacent bathrooms, or lounge areas, bywalls complying with 32.3.3.6.3 through 32.3.3.6.6.
Additional Proposed Changes
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Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 37 in the First Draft Report. The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Board and Care Facilities (BCF) to consider the Affirmative with Comment ballot of Bonisch relative to the need to clarify the location or separation condition for the lounge. If the lounge is open to the corridor, the wall that separates the lounge from the sleeping room cannot be exempted from protection as it serves as a continuation of the corridor wall envelope.
This action will be considered as a public comment.
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Correlating Committee Note No. 37-NFPA 101-2016 [ Section No. 32.3.3.6.2 ]
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CommitteeStatement:
The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Board and Care Facilities (BCF) to consider the Affirmative with Comment ballot ofBonisch relative to the need to clarify the location or separation condition for the lounge. If the lounge is open to the corridor, thewall that separates the lounge from the sleeping room cannot be exempted from protection as it serves as a continuation of thecorridor wall envelope.
This action will be considered as a public comment.
Ballot Results
This item has passed ballot
11 Eligible Voters
0 Not Returned
11 Affirmative All
0 Affirmative with Comments
0 Negative with Comments
0 Abstention
Affirmative All
Bush, Kenneth E.
Hopper, Howard
Hrustich, Stephen
Hugo, Jeffrey M.
Kalie, Jr., J. Edmund
Koffel, William E.
Pauls, Jake
Quiter, James R.
Reiswig, Rodger
Reynolds, Ronald C.
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First Revision No. 509-NFPA 101-2015 [ Section No. 32.3.3.6.2 ]
32.3.3.6.2
Sleeping rooms shall be separated from corridors, living areas, and kitchens all spaces, other than adjacent sleeping rooms, adjacentbathrooms, or lounge areas, by walls complying with 32.3.3.6.3 through 32.3.3.6.6 .
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Committee Statement and Meeting Notes
CommitteeStatement:
Sleeping rooms need to be protected from all other spaces that are not like kind uses by fire resistance rated barriers. It's easier toprovide exceptions where fire resistance rated barriers are not required then to specify those spaces where fire resistance ratedbarriers are required as currently stated (e.g., "living areas and kitchens"). The exceptions provided are meant to deal withbathrooms, both those that directly serve the sleeping room or sleeping suite, and common bathrooms serving corridors, which don'trequire a fire resistance rating; and for "lounge" spaces within sleeping room suites. All other spaces (e.g., housekeeping closets,laundry rooms, common TV rooms, meeting rooms, offices, etc.) that don't require a fire resistance rating themselves should beseparated from sleeping rooms by fire resistance rated barriers.
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Public Input No. 119-NFPA 101-2015 [Section No. 32.3.3.6.2]
Ballot Results
This item has passed ballot
23 Eligible Voters
2 Not Returned
19 Affirmative All
1 Affirmative with Comments
1 Negative with Comments
0 Abstention
Not Returned
Jones, Adam C.
Mills, David E.
Affirmative All
Allen, Scott D.
Asp, Roland A.
Beebe, Chad E.
Bellamy, Tracey D.
Blum, Andrew
Bradley, Harry L.
Day, Richard L.
Farraher, Martin J.
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McDermott, Randy S.
Nichols, Daniel E.
Rickard, John A.
Rierson, Carter J.
Rosenbaum, Eric R.
Schultz, Terry
Talley, Joshua
Taluba, Jon
Worley, Fred
Affirmative with Comment
Bonisch, Warren D.
Proposal is not clear as to location of the lounge. Is the lounge "adjacent"? or is it a lounge that is a separate room, out the door, door thecorridor?
Negative with Comment
Larrimer, Peter A.
The new wording provided doesn’t accomplish what the requester wanted. It has changed the requirements and no longer requires sleepingrooms to be separated from lounges (living spaces). If there is a need to change the language, it should be done without changing therequirement.
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Public Comment No. 37-NFPA 101-2016 [ Section No. 32.3.3.8.2 ]
32.3.3.8.2*
Where residential cooking equipment is used for food warming or limited cooking, the equipment shall not be required to beprotected in accordance with 9.2.3, and the presence of the equipment shall not require the area to be protected as a hazardousarea where the heating elements or burners have been tested and listed to not allow cooking pan temperatures to exceed 662°F(350°C).
Additional Proposed Changes
File Name Description Approved
101_CCN_38.pdf 101 CC Note #38
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 38 in the First Draft Report. The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Board and Care Facilities (BCF) to consider the Affirmative with Comment ballot of Bonisch relative lack of test standard for cooktop temperature. Follow the UL 858 STP work and reference the appropriate test standard for cooktop temperature measurement.
This action will be considered as a public comment.
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Correlating Committee Note No. 38-NFPA 101-2016 [Section No. 32.3.3.8.2]
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Correlating Committee Note No. 38-NFPA 101-2016 [ Section No. 32.3.3.8.2 ]
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Submittal Date: Fri Jan 08 10:34:07 EST 2016
Committee Statement and Meeting Notes
CommitteeStatement:
The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Board and Care Facilities (BCF) to consider the Affirmative with Comment ballot ofBonisch relative lack of test standard for cooktop temperature. Follow the UL 858 STP work and reference the appropriate teststandard for cooktop temperature measurement.
This action will be considered as a public comment.
Ballot Results
This item has passed ballot
11 Eligible Voters
0 Not Returned
11 Affirmative All
0 Affirmative with Comments
0 Negative with Comments
0 Abstention
Affirmative All
Bush, Kenneth E.
Hopper, Howard
Hrustich, Stephen
Hugo, Jeffrey M.
Kalie, Jr., J. Edmund
Koffel, William E.
Pauls, Jake
Quiter, James R.
Reiswig, Rodger
Reynolds, Ronald C.
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First Revision No. 510-NFPA 101-2015 [ Section No. 32.3.3.8.2 ]
32.3.3.8.2*
Where residential cooking equipment is used for food warming or limited cooking, the equipment shall not be required to be protected inaccordance with 9.2.3 , and the presence of the equipment shall not require the area to be protected as a hazardous area where theheating elements or burners have been tested and listed to not allow cooking pan temperatures to exceed 662°F (350°C) .
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Committee Statement and Meeting Notes
CommitteeStatement:
Recent work by the Fire Protection Research Foundation indicates that heating elements that meet this specification are unlikelyto ignite cooking material. See: http://www.nfpa.org/research/fire-protection-research-foundation/reports-and-proceedings/other-research-topics/analytical-modeling-of-pan-and-oil-heating-on-an-electric-coil-cooktop
While the code restricts the use to food warming or "limited cooking" in this section, it is highly problematic to enforce thisprohibition in practical application. Inclusion of this limit will ensure that cooking appliances do not present a hazard when usedinconsistent with this limits of this section.
The UL 858 STP is actively working on proposals to include cooktop temperature limit language in the standard for householdcooking equipment. This will ensure appliances are available that meet this provision for newly installed household cookingequipment.
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Committee Notes:
Date Submitted By
Aug 28, 2015 Gregory Harrington Note this is not a task group first revision.
Public Input No. 182-NFPA 101-2015 [Section No. 32.3.3.8.2]
Ballot Results
This item has passed ballot
23 Eligible Voters
2 Not Returned
19 Affirmative All
1 Affirmative with Comments
1 Negative with Comments
0 Abstention
Not Returned
Jones, Adam C.
Mills, David E.
Affirmative All
Allen, Scott D.
Asp, Roland A.
Beebe, Chad E.
Bellamy, Tracey D.
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Blum, Andrew
Bradley, Harry L.
Day, Richard L.
Farraher, Martin J.
Jose, Philip R.
Kowalenko, Henry
McDermott, Randy S.
Nichols, Daniel E.
Rickard, John A.
Rierson, Carter J.
Rosenbaum, Eric R.
Schultz, Terry
Talley, Joshua
Taluba, Jon
Worley, Fred
Affirmative with Comment
Bonisch, Warren D.
Proposal needs a specific reference to a UL standard that is the basis for the specified temperature limits.
Negative with Comment
Larrimer, Peter A.
According to the committee statement, the item that is difficult to enforce is “limited cooking”. If an appliance is provided that is unlikely to ignitecooking material, why would it be necessary to try to limit cooking? Putting in another restriction on equipment won’t change the enforcementissue of determining what is “limited cooking”. I would suggest that the limited cooking issue would go away with the proposed new requirementfor the equipment. We should leave 33.3.3.8.2 as is and add the following: (Add) Where residential cooking equipment is used and the heatingelements or burners have been tested and listed to not allow cooking pan temperatures to exceed 662 degrees F, the equipment shall not requirethe area to be protected as a hazardous area. (Existing text leave as is) 33.3.3.8.2 Where residential cooking equipment is used for food warmingor limited cooking, the equipment shall not be required to be protected in accordance with 9.2.3, and the presence of the equipment shall notrequire the area to be protected as a hazardous area.
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Public Comment No. 89-NFPA 101-2016 [ Section No. 32.3.3.8.2 ]
32.3.3.8.2 *
Where residential cooking equipment is used for food warming or limited cooking, or where the equpment has heating elements orburners that have been tested and listed not to allow cooking pan temperature to exceed 662°F (350°C), the equipment shall not berequired to be protected in accordance with 9.2.3, and the presence of the equipment shall not require the area to be protected as ahazardous area where the heating elements or burners have been tested and listed to not allow cooking pan temperatures to exceed662°F (350°C) .
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
See my negative ballot.
Related Item
First Revision No. 510-NFPA 101-2015 [Section No. 32.3.3.8.2]
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Peter Larrimer
Organization: US Department of Veterans Affa
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Public Comment No. 140-NFPA 101-2016 [ Section No. 32.3.6 ]
32.3.6 Reserved. Call System .
32.3.6.1 When the residential board and care occupancy is required by state or local code to be equipped with a Call System forresident to staff communication, the Call System shall be listed for the purpose.
32.3.6.2 The recognized standard for a listed residential board and care occupancy Call System shall be the ANSI/UL 2560,Standard for Safety, Emergency Call Systems for Assisted Living and Independent Living Facilities .
32.3.6.3* Supplementary features such as call notification to non-listed alphanumeric pagers or other wireless devices carried orworn by residential care staff is permitted as an integration with a listed Call System.
32.3.6.4 The locations of call stations and calling devices shall be as required by state and local codes or in accordance with theguidelines described in the Guidelines for Design and Construction of Health Care Facilities, by the Facility Guidelines Institute(FGI).
32.3.6.5 When bath stations are provided at resident toilet, bath, or shower rooms, the stations shall be accessible to a residentlying on the floor. A pull cord no higher than six inches above the floor is permitted to facilitate such access.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
2015 Glossary Term 3.3.190.12* Residential Board and Care Occupancy is defined as: “An occupancy used for lodging and boarding of four or more residents, not related by blood or marriage to the owners or operators, for the purpose of providing personal care services.” – This definition applies to occupancies commonly referred to as Assisted Living Facilities.
As more and more residential board and care facilities are developed and constructed, state legislatures and local jurisdictions are beginning to draft regulatory codes requiring implementation of a Call System for these occupancies. Most often, they rely on NEMA to provide guidance and to propose code language for which kind of Call System is most appropriate for a residential care facility.
While the NFPA 99 Health Care Facilities Code requires a Nurse Call System which is “listed” to the ANSI/UL 1069 Safety Standard for Hospital Signaling and Nurse Call Equipment, that standard is specifically applicable for NFPA 99 Category 1 and Category 2 facilities (i.e., acute care and nursing home facilities respectively). But for Residential Board and Care Facilities, a UL1069 listed Nurse Call System is not necessarily a proper system choice. Instead, an Emergency Call System which is “listed” to the ANSI/UL 2560 Safety Standard for Assisted Living and Independent Living Facilities is a much more appropriate system type. Systems “listed” to the ANSI/UL 2560 standard are specifically designed to the unique requirements of residential board and care occupancies. Hence, facility owners and operators of residential board and care facilities will install an Emergency Call System that conforms with the requirements specified in the ANSI/UL 2560 standard rather than installing a Nurse Call System that is “listed” to the ANSI/UL 1069 standard.
The problem is, a system that is “not-listed” to an electrical safety standard does not provide the same level of reliability as does one which has been tested, evaluated and “listed” by a Nationally Recognized Testing Laboratory (NRTL). Bear in mind, a Call System gets installed by factory trained technicians and becomes a part of a facility’s infrastructure and building system operations. A Call System “listed” to ANSI/UL 2560 provides 3rd Party tested and audited assurance of safeguards against critical hazards such as fire and electrical shock whereas, a non-listed (rogue) system would not have been independently assessed or audited as providing such assurance.
Think of it this way, would any NFPA code allow for a non-listed Smoke Detection, CO or Fire Alarm System to be installed in any type of facility or occupancy? An Emergency Call System, Nurse Call System and Fire Alarm System are all categorically referred to as a “Life Safety System” and hence, rely upon a “listing” with an independent NRTL to provide assurance of continued reproducibility of safe and effective system operation.
An Emergency Call System that is “listed” to the ANSI/UL 2560 safety standard provides a level of safety against electrical and fire hazards that is state-of-the-art current best practice and which is comparable to that of a “listed” Nurse Call System (ANSI/UL 1069 – NFPA 99) and even to a “listed” Fire Alarm System (ANSI/UL 864 – NFPA 72).
Related Item
Public Input No. 107-NFPA 101-2015 [Section No. 32.3.5]
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Vince Baclawski
Organization: Nema
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Public Comment No. 90-NFPA 101-2016 [ Section No. 33.1.1.7 ]
33.1.1.7
Where construction, alteration, or demolition operations are conducted, the provisions of 4.6.10.2 shall apply.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
See my negative comment.
Related Item
First Revision No. 522-NFPA 101-2015 [New Section after 33.1.1.6]
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Peter Larrimer
Organization: US Department of Veterans Affa
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Public Comment No. 33-NFPA 101-2016 [ New Section after 33.1.8 ]
New Section after 33.1.8
Additional Proposed Changes
File Name Description Approved
101_CCN_34.pdf 101 CC Note #34
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 34 in the First Draft Report. The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Board and Care Facilities (BCF) to consider the Negative ballot of Larrimer noting that small board and care facilities do not have means of egress; they have means of escape.
This action will be considered as a public comment.
Related Item
Correlating Committee Note No. 34-NFPA 101-2016 [New Section after 33.1.8]
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: CC ON SAF_AAC
Organization: NFPA CC ON SAFETY TO LIFE
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Submittal Date: Thu Mar 03 13:17:42 EST 2016
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Correlating Committee Note No. 34-NFPA 101-2016 [ New Section after 33.1.8 ]
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: SAF-AAC
Organization: [ Not Specified ]
Street Address:
City:
State:
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Submittal Date: Fri Jan 08 09:46:05 EST 2016
Committee Statement and Meeting Notes
CommitteeStatement:
The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Board and Care Facilities (BCF) to consider the Negative ballot of Larrimer notingthat small board and care facilities do not have means of egress; they have means of escape.
This action will be considered as a public comment.
Ballot Results
This item has passed ballot
11 Eligible Voters
0 Not Returned
11 Affirmative All
0 Affirmative with Comments
0 Negative with Comments
0 Abstention
Affirmative All
Bush, Kenneth E.
Hopper, Howard
Hrustich, Stephen
Hugo, Jeffrey M.
Kalie, Jr., J. Edmund
Koffel, William E.
Pauls, Jake
Quiter, James R.
Reiswig, Rodger
Reynolds, Ronald C.
Rosenbaum, Eric R.
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First Revision No. 516-NFPA 101-2015 [ New Section after 33.1.8 ]
33.1.9
Where hazardous materials are present the provisions of 7.12.2 shall apply.
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: SAF-BCF
Organization: [ Not Specified ]
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Submittal Date: Fri Aug 28 11:14:11 EDT 2015
Committee Statement and Meeting Notes
CommitteeStatement:
The revision incorporates the requirements of 7.12.2 for both small and large facilities where hazardous materials arepresent.
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Ballot Results
This item has passed ballot
23 Eligible Voters
2 Not Returned
20 Affirmative All
0 Affirmative with Comments
1 Negative with Comments
0 Abstention
Not Returned
Jones, Adam C.
Mills, David E.
Affirmative All
Allen, Scott D.
Asp, Roland A.
Beebe, Chad E.
Bellamy, Tracey D.
Blum, Andrew
Bonisch, Warren D.
Bradley, Harry L.
Day, Richard L.
Farraher, Martin J.
Jose, Philip R.
Kowalenko, Henry
McDermott, Randy S.
Nichols, Daniel E.
Rickard, John A.
Rierson, Carter J.
Rosenbaum, Eric R.
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Schultz, Terry
Talley, Joshua
Taluba, Jon
Worley, Fred
Negative with Comment
Larrimer, Peter A.
What is to be solved with this requirement? The new requirement reference 7.12.2 which requires means of egress to comply with other codes.However, small board and care facilities don’t have a means of egress. They have a means of escape. Do we want to apply means of egressrequirements from other standards to board and care facilities? What is broken that we need to add this? In addition, this will be a retroactiverequirement to comply with another standard. This is not good.
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Public Comment No. 91-NFPA 101-2016 [ Section No. 33.1.9 ]
33.1.9
Where hazardous materials are present the provisions of 7.12.2 shall apply.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
See my negative comment.
Related Item
First Revision No. 516-NFPA 101-2015 [New Section after 33.1.8]
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Peter Larrimer
Organization: US Department of Veterans Affa
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Submittal Date: Thu Mar 24 09:44:52 EDT 2016
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Public Comment No. 92-NFPA 101-2016 [ Section No. 33.2.3.2.6 ]
33.2.3.2.6
Where hazardous materials are stored or handled, the provisions of 8.7.3.1 shall apply.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
See my negative comment.
Related Item
First Revision No. 519-NFPA 101-2015 [New Section after 33.2.3.2.5]
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Peter Larrimer
Organization: US Department of Veterans Affa
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Submittal Date: Thu Mar 24 09:46:38 EDT 2016
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Public Comment No. 93-NFPA 101-2016 [ Section No. 33.2.3.4.1 ]
33.2.3.4.1 Fire Alarm Systems.
A manual fire alarm system shall be provided in accordance with Section 9.6, unless the provisions of 33.2.3.4.1.1 or 33.2.3.4.1.2are met.
33.2.3.4.1.1
A fire alarm system shall not be required where interconnected smoke alarms complying with 33.2.3.4.4 and not less than onemanual fire alarm box per floor arranged to continuously sound the smoke detector alarms are provided.
33.2.3.4.1.2
Other manually activated continuously sounding alarms acceptable to the authority having jurisdiction shall be permitted in lieu of afire alarm system.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
See my negative comment. Return to previous language.
Related Item
First Revision No. 503-NFPA 101-2015 [Section No. 33.2.3.4.1 [Excluding any Sub-Sections]]
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Peter Larrimer
Organization: US Department of Veterans Affa
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Public Comment No. 165-NFPA 101-2016 [ Section No. 33.2.3.4.2 ]
33.2.3.4.2 Initiation.
Where a fire alarm system is required by 33.2.3.4.1, initiation shall be by one of the following means:
(1) Manual means in accordance with 9.6.2.1(1)
(2) Automatic sprinkler system that complies with 9.6.2.1(3) and provides protection throughout the building .
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
Leaving "throughout" would be contrary to the installation standards, specifically NFPA 13D. The same public comment is done to FR-502 for Section 32.2.3.4.2.
Related Public Comments for This Document
Related Comment Relationship
Public Comment No. 162-NFPA 101-2016 [Section No. 32.2.3.4.2]
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First Revision No. 504-NFPA 101-2015 [New Section after 33.2.3.4.1.2]
First Revision No. 502-NFPA 101-2015 [Section No. 32.2.3.4.1]
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: Jeffrey Hugo
Organization: National Fire Sprinkler Associ
Affilliation: NFSA
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Public Comment No. 35-NFPA 101-2016 [ Section No. 33.2.3.4.2 ]
33.2.3.4.2 Initiation.
Where a fire alarm system is required by 33.2.3.4.1, initiation shall be by one of the following means:
(1) Manual means in accordance with 9.6.2.1(1)
(2) Automatic sprinkler system that complies with 9.6.2.1(3) and provides protection throughout the building. the provisions of33.2.3.5.
Additional Proposed Changes
File Name Description Approved
101_CCN_36.pdf 101 CC Note #36
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 36 in the First Draft Report. The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Board and Care Facilities (BCF) to consider the Negative ballot of Larrimer noting that 33.3.3.4.2(2) requires the sprinklers to provide protection throughout the building yet where NFPA 13D or NFPA 13R systems are used the sprinklers are not provided “throughout”. The provision of 33.2.3.4.2(2) could be reworded to read:
(2) Automatic sprinkler system that complies with 9.6.2.1(3) and the provisions of 33.2.3.5.
This action will be considered as a public comment.
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CommitteeStatement:
The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Board and Care Facilities (BCF) to consider the Negative ballot of Larrimer notingthat 33.3.3.4.2(2) requires the sprinklers to provide protection throughout the building yet where NFPA 13D or NFPA 13R systemsare used the sprinklers are not provided “throughout”. The provision of 33.2.3.4.2(2) could be reworded to read:
(2) Automatic sprinkler system that complies with 9.6.2.1(3) and the provisions of 33.2.3.5.
This action will be considered as a public comment.
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0 Affirmative with Comments
0 Negative with Comments
0 Abstention
Affirmative All
Bush, Kenneth E.
Hopper, Howard
Hrustich, Stephen
Hugo, Jeffrey M.
Kalie, Jr., J. Edmund
Koffel, William E.
Pauls, Jake
Quiter, James R.
Reiswig, Rodger
Reynolds, Ronald C.
Rosenbaum, Eric R.
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First Revision No. 502-NFPA 101-2015 [ Section No. 32.2.3.4.1 ]
32.2.3.4.1 General.
A manual fire alarm system shall be provided in accordance with Section 9.6 .
32.2.3.4.2 Initiation.
Initiation of the required fire alarm system shall be by one of the following means:
(1) Manual means in accordance with 9.6.2.1(1)
(2) Automatic sprinkler system that complies with 9.6.2.1(3) and provides protection throughout the building
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Committee Statement and Meeting Notes
Committee Statement: Use statement from agenda p. 41.
It also recognized that automatic sprinklers are a viable option for initiation of the fire alarm system.
Response Message:
Committee Notes:
Date Submitted By
Aug 28, 2015 Gregory Harrington Renumber successive para's accordingly.
Public Input No. 29-NFPA 101-2015 [Section No. 32.2.3.4.1]
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2 Not Returned
20 Affirmative All
0 Affirmative with Comments
1 Negative with Comments
0 Abstention
Not Returned
Jones, Adam C.
Mills, David E.
Affirmative All
Allen, Scott D.
Asp, Roland A.
Beebe, Chad E.
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Bonisch, Warren D.
Bradley, Harry L.
Day, Richard L.
Farraher, Martin J.
Jose, Philip R.
Kowalenko, Henry
McDermott, Randy S.
Nichols, Daniel E.
Rickard, John A.
Rierson, Carter J.
Rosenbaum, Eric R.
Schultz, Terry
Talley, Joshua
Taluba, Jon
Worley, Fred
Negative with Comment
Larrimer, Peter A.
It appears that this change is going to create some problems. 1. 32.2.3.4.2 (2) states "...and provides protection throughout the building" Whatdoes that mean with respect to a 13D and a 13R system that, by design, is not throughout the building like a 13 system? 2. 32.2.3.5.6 requires thefire alarm to be initiated with a partial sprinkler system. This should be added or somehow addressed. 3. The base paragraph says that the firealarm system should be initiated by either or, but it appears that presently, both are required to initiate the alarm. 4. 32.2.3.5.4 requires the 13 or13R system to be supervised, but 32.2.3.5.5 doesn't mandate a 13D system to be supervised. It is one of the three options. Leaving the languagein the code without making this change will reduce these conflicting issues.
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Public Comment No. 94-NFPA 101-2016 [ Section No. 33.2.3.4.2 ]
33.2.3.4.2 Initiation.
Where a fire alarm system is required by 33.2.3.4.1 , initiation shall be by one of the following means:
(1) Manual means in accordance with 9.6.2.1(1)
(2) Automatic sprinkler system that complies with 9.6.2.1(3) and provides protection throughout the building.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
See my negative comment. Return to previous language.
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First Revision No. 504-NFPA 101-2015 [New Section after 33.2.3.4.1.2]
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Public Comment No. 106-NFPA 101-2016 [ Sections 33.2.3.4.4.6, 33.2.3.4.4.7 ]
Sections 33.2.3.4.4.6, 33.2.3.4.4.7
33.2.3.4.4.6
Smoke alarms in accordance with 33.2.3.4.4.1, 33.2.3.4.4.2, and 33.2.3.4.4.3 shall not be required where buildings are protectedthroughout by an approved automatic sprinkler system, in accordance with 33.2.3.5, that uses quick-response or residentialsprinklers, and are protected with approved smoke alarms installed in each sleeping room, in accordance with 9.6.2.10, that arepowered by the building electrical system.
33.2.3.4.4.7
Smoke alarms in accordance with 33.2.3.4.4.1, 33.2.3.4.4.2, and 33.2.3.4.4.3 shall not be required where buildings are protectedthroughout by an approved automatic sprinkler system, in accordance with 33.2.3.5, that uses quick-response or residentialsprinklers, with existing battery-powered smoke alarms in each sleeping room, and where, in the opinion of the authority havingjurisdiction, the facility has demonstrated that testing, maintenance, and a battery replacement program ensure the reliability of powerto the smoke alarms.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
This change is an editorial change. Take a look at the 2000 Edition of NFPA 101.
33.2.3.4.3* Smoke Alarms. Approved smoke alarms shall beprovided in accordance with 9.6.2.10. These alarms shall bepowered from the building electrical system and, when activated,shall initiate an alarm that is audible in all sleepingareas. Smoke alarms shall be installed on all levels, includingbasements but excluding crawl spaces and unfinished attics.Additional smoke alarms shall be installed for living rooms,dens, day rooms, and similar spaces.
Exception No. 1: Buildings protected throughout by an approved automaticsprinkler system, in accordance with 33.2.3.5, that uses quick responseor residential sprinklers, and protected with approved smokealarms installed in each sleeping room, in accordance with 9.6.2.10,that are powered by the building electrical system.
Exception No. 2: Where buildings are protected throughout by an approvedautomatic sprinkler system, in accordance with 33.2.3.5, thatuses quick-response or residential sprinklers, with existing battery-poweredsmoke alarms in each sleeping room, and where, in the opinion ofthe authority having jurisdiction, the facility has demonstrated thattesting, maintenance, and a battery replacement program ensure thereliability of power to the smoke alarms.
The exceptions in the 2000 edition applied to the base paragraph that had all three requirements in it. When the committee removed the exceptions placed only one requirement in each paragraph, they numbered the document incorrectly such that the exception would only apply to one of the three requirements that was in the base paragraph in the 2000 edition. Adding the paragraph references to 33.2.3.4.3.6 and 7 will fix this editorial mistake.
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Public Input No. 108-NFPA 101-2015 [Section No. 33.2.3.4]
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Public Comment No. 141-NFPA 101-2016 [ Section No. 33.2.5 ]
33.2.5 Building Services.
33.2.5.1 Utilities.
Utilities shall comply with Section 9.1.
33.2.5.2 Heating, Ventilating, and Air-Conditioning.
33.2.5.2.1
Heating, ventilating, and air-conditioning equipment shall comply with the provisions of 9.2.1 and 9.2.2, except as otherwise requiredin this chapter.
33.2.5.2.2
No stove or combustion heater shall be located to block escape in case of fire caused by the malfunction of the stove or heater.
33.2.5.2.3
Unvented fuel-fired heaters shall not be used in any residential board and care facility.
33.2.5.3 Call Systems
When the residential board and care occupancy is required by state or local code to be equipped with a Call System for resident tostaff communication, the Call System shall be in accordance with section 32.3.5.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
2015 Glossary Term 3.3.190.12* Residential Board and Care Occupancy is defined as: “An occupancy used for lodging and boarding of four or more residents, not related by blood or marriage to the owners or operators, for the purpose of providing personal care services.” – This definition applies to occupancies commonly referred to as Assisted Living Facilities.
As more and more residential board and care facilities are developed and constructed, state legislatures and local jurisdictions are beginning to draft regulatory codes requiring implementation of a Call System for these occupancies. Most often, they rely on NEMA to provide guidance and to propose code language for which kind of Call System is most appropriate for a residential care facility.
While the NFPA 99 Health Care Facilities Code requires a Nurse Call System which is “listed” to the ANSI/UL 1069 Safety Standard for Hospital Signaling and Nurse Call Equipment, that standard is specifically applicable for NFPA 99 Category 1 and Category 2 facilities (i.e., acute care and nursing home facilities respectively). But for Residential Board and Care Facilities, a UL1069 listed Nurse Call System is not necessarily a proper system choice. Instead, an Emergency Call System which is “listed” to the ANSI/UL 2560 Safety Standard for Assisted Living and Independent Living Facilities is a much more appropriate system type. Systems “listed” to the ANSI/UL 2560 standard are specifically designed to the unique requirements of residential board and care occupancies. Hence, facility owners and operators of residential board and care facilities will install an Emergency Call System that conforms with the requirements specified in the ANSI/UL 2560 standard rather than installing a Nurse Call System that is “listed” to the ANSI/UL 1069 standard.
The problem is, a system that is “not-listed” to an electrical safety standard does not provide the same level of reliability as does one which has been tested, evaluated and “listed” by a Nationally Recognized Testing Laboratory (NRTL). Bear in mind, a Call System gets installed by factory trained technicians and becomes a part of a facility’s infrastructure and building system operations. A Call System “listed” to ANSI/UL 2560 provides 3rd Party tested and audited assurance of safeguards against critical hazards such as fire and electrical shock whereas, a non-listed (rogue) system would not have been independently assessed or audited as providing such assurance.
Think of it this way, would any NFPA code allow for a non-listed Smoke Detection, CO or Fire Alarm System to be installed in any type of facility or occupancy? An Emergency Call System, Nurse Call System and Fire Alarm System are all categorically referred to as a “Life Safety System” and hence, rely upon a “listing” with an independent NRTL to provide assurance of continued reproducibility of safe and effective system operation.
An Emergency Call System that is “listed” to the ANSI/UL 2560 safety standard provides a level of safety against electrical and fire hazards that is state-of-the-art current best practice and which is comparable to that of a “listed” Nurse Call System (ANSI/UL 1069 – NFPA 99) and even to a “listed” Fire Alarm System (ANSI/UL 864 – NFPA 72).
Related Item
Public Input No. 109-NFPA 101-2015 [New Section after 33.2.5.2]
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Public Comment No. 95-NFPA 101-2016 [ Section No. 33.3.3.2.4 ]
33.3.3.2.4
Where hazardous materials are stored or handled, the provisions of 8.7.3.1 shall apply.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
See my negative comment.
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First Revision No. 520-NFPA 101-2015 [New Section after 33.3.3.2.3]
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Public Comment No. 143-NFPA 101-2016 [ Section No. 33.3.6 ]
33.3.6 Reserved. Call System.
33.3.5.1 When the residential board and care occupancy is required by state or local code to be equipped with a Call System forresident to staff communication, the Call System shall be in accordance with section 32.3.5.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
2015 Glossary Term 3.3.190.12* Residential Board and Care Occupancy is defined as: “An occupancy used for lodging and boarding of four or more residents, not related by blood or marriage to the owners or operators, for the purpose of providing personal care services.” – This definition applies to occupancies commonly referred to as Assisted Living Facilities.
As more and more residential board and care facilities are developed and constructed, state legislatures and local jurisdictions are beginning to draft regulatory codes requiring implementation of a Call System for these occupancies. Most often, they rely on NEMA to provide guidance and to propose code language for which kind of Call System is most appropriate for a residential care facility.
While the NFPA 99 Health Care Facilities Code requires a Nurse Call System which is “listed” to the ANSI/UL 1069 Safety Standard for Hospital Signaling and Nurse Call Equipment, that standard is specifically applicable for NFPA 99 Category 1 and Category 2 facilities (i.e., acute care and nursing home facilities respectively). But for Residential Board and Care Facilities, a UL1069 listed Nurse Call System is not necessarily a proper system choice. Instead, an Emergency Call System which is “listed” to the ANSI/UL 2560 Safety Standard for Assisted Living and Independent Living Facilities is a much more appropriate system type. Systems “listed” to the ANSI/UL 2560 standard are specifically designed to the unique requirements of residential board and care occupancies. Hence, facility owners and operators of residential board and care facilities will install an Emergency Call System that conforms with the requirements specified in the ANSI/UL 2560 standard rather than installing a Nurse Call System that is “listed” to the ANSI/UL 1069 standard.
The problem is, a system that is “not-listed” to an electrical safety standard does not provide the same level of reliability as does one which has been tested, evaluated and “listed” by a Nationally Recognized Testing Laboratory (NRTL). Bear in mind, a Call System gets installed by factory trained technicians and becomes a part of a facility’s infrastructure and building system operations. A Call System “listed” to ANSI/UL 2560 provides 3rd Party tested and audited assurance of safeguards against critical hazards such as fire and electrical shock whereas, a non-listed (rogue) system would not have been independently assessed or audited as providing such assurance.
Think of it this way, would any NFPA code allow for a non-listed Smoke Detection, CO or Fire Alarm System to be installed in any type of facility or occupancy? An Emergency Call System, Nurse Call System and Fire Alarm System are all categorically referred to as a “Life Safety System” and hence, rely upon a “listing” with an independent NRTL to provide assurance of continued reproducibility of safe and effective system operation.
An Emergency Call System that is “listed” to the ANSI/UL 2560 safety standard provides a level of safety against electrical and fire hazards that is state-of-the-art current best practice and which is comparable to that of a “listed” Nurse Call System (ANSI/UL 1069 – NFPA 99) and even to a “listed” Fire Alarm System (ANSI/UL 864 – NFPA 72).
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Public Comment No. 145-NFPA 101-2016 [ New Section after A.32.3.5.3.2 ]
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A.32.3.6.3 A listed residential board and care Call System can be integrated with a supplementary wireless communication system forthe purpose of providing mobile call notifications to staff carried or worn portable devices. Such notifications are consideredsupplementary unless the wireless communication system is also listed to the ANSI/UL 2560 Safety Standard. Any non-listedsupplementary wireless communication system that is integrated with a listed residential Call System should conform to otherappropriate safety standards (i.e., electrical safety and EMC conformance) which is consistent with the intended use of the wirelesscommunication system as a stand-alone communication system. The supplementary wireless communication system should alsoprovide certificates of compliance as having been independently tested by a NRTL to appropriate electrical safety and EMC standards.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
2015 Glossary Term 3.3.190.12* Residential Board and Care Occupancy is defined as: “An occupancy used for lodging and boarding of four or more residents, not related by blood or marriage to the owners or operators, for the purpose of providing personal care services.” – This definition applies to occupancies commonly referred to as Assisted Living Facilities.
While a “listed” Call System will provide NRTL evaluated and audited conformance to the ANSI/UL 2560 Safety Standard, a supplementary wireless communication system (e.g., Pagers, DECT, Smart Phones) need to also provide conformance to appropriate electrical safety and EMC standards as well. Otherwise, installing any type of “non-listed” (rogue) wireless communication system which has no electrical safety or EMC safety conformity can introduce fire and electrical shock hazards which can result in severe adverse events to life safety, affecting both residents and care staff.
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Public Input No. 107-NFPA 101-2015 [Section No. 32.3.5]
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Public Comment No. 7-NFPA 5000-2016 [ Section No. 4.5.5.4 ]
4.5.5.4
Where required by Chapters 15 through 31 and 33, construction, alteration, and demolition operations shall comply with NFPA 241.
Additional Proposed Changes
File Name Description Approved
5000_CCN_5.pdf 5000 CC Note #5 ✓
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 5 in the First Draft Report. The Correlating Committee directs the occupancy Technical Committees to consider reviewing new Section 4.5.5.4 and consider for addition in their respective chapters correlative language to reference NFPA 241. The language would read as follows:
XX.1.1.6 Where construction, alteration, or demolition operations are conducted, the provisions of 4.5.5.4 shall apply.
These action will be considered as a public comment.
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Correlating Committee Note No. 5-NFPA 5000-2016 [New Section after 4.5.5.3]
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: CC on BLD_AAC
Organization: NFPA CC ON BUILDING CODE
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Submittal Date: Fri Mar 04 11:01:00 EST 2016
Copyright Assignment
I, CC on BLD_AAC, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both theProposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of theNFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power andauthority to enter into this copyright assignment.
By checking this box I affirm that I am CC on BLD_AAC, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. Iunderstand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as ahandwritten signature
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Correlating Committee Note No. 5-NFPA 5000-2016 [ New Section after 4.5.5.3 ]
Submitter Information Verification
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Organization: [ Not Specified ]
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Submittal Date: Fri Jan 08 13:51:50 EST 2016
Committee Statement and Meeting Notes
CommitteeStatement:
The Correlating Committee directs the occupancy Technical Committees to consider reviewing new Section 4.5.5.4 andconsider for addition in their respective chapters correlative language to reference NFPA 241. The language would read asfollows:
XX.1.1.6 Where construction, alteration, or demolition operations are conducted, the provisions of 4.5.5.4 shall apply.
These action will be considered as a public comment.
Ballot Results
This item has passed ballot
18 Eligible Voters
2 Not Returned
15 Affirmative All
1 Affirmative with Comments
0 Negative with Comments
0 Abstention
Not Returned
Newman, Michael T.
Wooldridge, Jerry
Affirmative All
DiCristina, Salvatore
Frable, David W.
Francis, Sam W.
Hansen, Raymond N.
Harrington, John C.
Hopper, Howard
Hugo, Jeffrey M.
Humble, Jonathan
Jones, Gerald H.
Leavitt, Russell B.
Quiter, James R.
Roberts, Richard Jay
Shah, Faimeen
Vinci, Leon F.
Willse, Peter J.
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Affirmative with Comment
Laramee, Scott T.
No comment, but no way to accept as "affirmative" without accepting all as "affirmative in the ballot portal.
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Public Comment No. 30-NFPA 5000-2016 [ Section No. 26.3.3.6.2 ]
26.3.3.6.2
Sleeping rooms shall be separated from all spaces, other than adjacent sleeping rooms, adjacent bathrooms, or lounge areas, by wallscomplying with 26.3.3.6.3 through 26.3.3.6.6.
Additional Proposed Changes
File Name Description Approved
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Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 29 in the First Draft Report. The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Board and Care Facilities (BCF) to consider the Affirmative with Comment ballot of Bonisch and Nichols relative to the need to clarify the location or separation condition for the lounge. If the lounge is open to the corridor, the wall that separates the lounge from the sleeping room cannot be exempted from protection as it serves as a continuation of the corridor wall envelope.
This action will be considered as a public comment.
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Correlating Committee Note No. 29-NFPA 5000-2016 [Section No. 26.3.3.6.2]
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: CC on BLD_AAC
Organization: NFPA CC ON BUILDING CODE
Street Address:
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Submittal Date: Mon Mar 07 12:57:42 EST 2016
Copyright Assignment
I, CC on BLD_AAC, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both theProposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of theNFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power andauthority to enter into this copyright assignment.
By checking this box I affirm that I am CC on BLD_AAC, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. Iunderstand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as ahandwritten signature
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Correlating Committee Note No. 29-NFPA 5000-2016 [ Section No. 26.3.3.6.2 ]
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: BLD-AAC
Organization: [ Not Specified ]
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City:
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Submittal Date: Fri Jan 08 15:09:05 EST 2016
Committee Statement and Meeting Notes
CommitteeStatement:
The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Board and Care Facilities (BCF) to consider the Affirmative with Comment ballot ofBonisch and Nichols relative to the need to clarify the location or separation condition for the lounge. If the lounge is open to thecorridor, the wall that separates the lounge from the sleeping room cannot be exempted from protection as it serves as acontinuation of the corridor wall envelope.
This action will be considered as a public comment.
Ballot Results
This item has passed ballot
18 Eligible Voters
2 Not Returned
15 Affirmative All
1 Affirmative with Comments
0 Negative with Comments
0 Abstention
Not Returned
Newman, Michael T.
Wooldridge, Jerry
Affirmative All
DiCristina, Salvatore
Frable, David W.
Francis, Sam W.
Hansen, Raymond N.
Harrington, John C.
Hopper, Howard
Hugo, Jeffrey M.
Humble, Jonathan
Jones, Gerald H.
Leavitt, Russell B.
Quiter, James R.
Roberts, Richard Jay
Shah, Faimeen
Vinci, Leon F.
Willse, Peter J.
Affirmative with Comment
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Laramee, Scott T.
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First Revision No. 507-NFPA 5000-2015 [ Section No. 26.3.3.6.2 ]
26.3.3.6.2
Sleeping rooms shall be separated from corridors, living areas, and kitchens all spaces, other than adjacent sleeping rooms, adjacentbathrooms, or lounge areas, by walls complying with 26.3.3.6.3 through 26.3.3.6.6 .
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: BLD-BCF
Organization: [ Not Specified ]
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Submittal Date: Fri Aug 28 12:24:14 EDT 2015
Committee Statement and Meeting Notes
Committee Statement: The revision is intended to correlate with NFPA 101.
Response Message:
Ballot Results
This item has passed ballot
23 Eligible Voters
3 Not Returned
17 Affirmative All
2 Affirmative with Comments
1 Negative with Comments
0 Abstention
Not Returned
Jones, Adam C.
Jose, Philip R.
Mills, David E.
Affirmative All
Allen, Scott D.
Asp, Roland A.
Beebe, Chad E.
Bellamy, Tracey D.
Blum, Andrew
Bradley, Harry L.
Day, Richard L.
Farraher, Martin J.
Grant, Kurtis
Larrimer, Peter A.
Rickard, John A.
Rierson, Carter J.
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Taluba, Jon
Worley, Fred
Affirmative with Comment
Bonisch, Warren D.
Proposal is not clear as to location of the lounge. Is the lounge "adjacent"? or is it a lounge that is a separate room, out the door, door thecorridor?
Nichols, Daniel E.
A clarification for this could be 'lounge areas within sleeping units' to better define the intent of not requiring separation in suite-typearrangements.
Negative with Comment
Kowalenko, Henry
Although grab bars are valuable safety features for residents in need of them, they are not necessary for all individuals. To require grab bars in allbathtubs, bathtub-shower combinations or showers puts an undue burden on the provider to provide these safety features when in fact they maynot be required by the resident.
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Public Comment No. 31-NFPA 5000-2016 [ Section No. 26.3.3.8.2 ]
26.3.3.8.2*
Where residential cooking equipment is used for food warming or limited cooking, the equipment shall not be required to beprotected in accordance with Section 55.10, and the presence of the equipment shall not require the area to be protected as ahazardous area where the heating elements or burners have been tested and listed to not allow cooking pan temperatures to exceed662°F (350°C).
Additional Proposed Changes
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NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 30 in the First Draft Report. The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Board and Care Facilities (BCF) to consider the Affirmative with Comment ballot of Bonisch relative lack of test standard for cooktop temperature. Follow the UL 858 STP work and reference the appropriate test standard for cooktop temperature measurement.
This action will be considered as a public comment.
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The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Board and Care Facilities (BCF) to consider the Affirmative with Comment ballot ofBonisch relative lack of test standard for cooktop temperature. Follow the UL 858 STP work and reference the appropriate teststandard for cooktop temperature measurement.
This action will be considered as a public comment.
Ballot Results
This item has passed ballot
18 Eligible Voters
2 Not Returned
15 Affirmative All
1 Affirmative with Comments
0 Negative with Comments
0 Abstention
Not Returned
Newman, Michael T.
Wooldridge, Jerry
Affirmative All
DiCristina, Salvatore
Frable, David W.
Francis, Sam W.
Hansen, Raymond N.
Harrington, John C.
Hopper, Howard
Hugo, Jeffrey M.
Humble, Jonathan
Jones, Gerald H.
Leavitt, Russell B.
Quiter, James R.
Roberts, Richard Jay
Shah, Faimeen
Vinci, Leon F.
Willse, Peter J.
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Laramee, Scott T.
No comment, but no way to accept as "affirmative" without accepting all as "affirmative in the ballot portal.
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First Revision No. 510-NFPA 5000-2015 [ Section No. 26.3.3.8.2 ]
26.3.3.8.2*
Where residential cooking equipment is used for food warming or limited cooking, the equipment shall not be required to be protected inaccordance with Section 55.10 , and the presence of the equipment shall not require the area to be protected as a hazardous areawhere the heating elements or burners have been tested and listed to not allow cooking pan temperatures to exceed 662°F (350°C) .
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Committee Statement: The revision is intended to correlate with NFPA 101.
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Ballot Results
This item has passed ballot
23 Eligible Voters
3 Not Returned
19 Affirmative All
1 Affirmative with Comments
0 Negative with Comments
0 Abstention
Not Returned
Jones, Adam C.
Jose, Philip R.
Mills, David E.
Affirmative All
Allen, Scott D.
Asp, Roland A.
Beebe, Chad E.
Bellamy, Tracey D.
Blum, Andrew
Bradley, Harry L.
Day, Richard L.
Farraher, Martin J.
Grant, Kurtis
Kowalenko, Henry
Larrimer, Peter A.
Nichols, Daniel E.
Rickard, John A.
Rierson, Carter J.
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Schultz, Terry
Talley, Joshua
Taluba, Jon
Worley, Fred
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Proposal needs a specific reference to a UL standard that is the basis for the specified temperature limits.
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Public Comment No. 38-NFPA 5000-2016 [ New Section after 55.12 ]
Additional Proposed Changes
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5000_CCN_38.pdf
NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 38 in the First Draft Report. The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Fundamentals (FUN) and the occupancy committees (AXM, END, HEA, BCF, RES, DET, MER, IND) to review the proposed change and determine if further changes are needed in the Code. The Correlating Committee will revisit the scope of the TC on Building Service and Fire Protection Equipment (BSF) after they propose any desired changes.
This action will be considered as a public comment.
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Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 38 in the First Draft Report. The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Fundamentals (FUN) and the occupancy committees (AXM, END, HEA, BCF, RES, DET, MER, IND) to review the proposed change and determine if further changes are needed in the Code. The Correlating Committee will revisit the scope of the TC on Building Service and Fire Protection Equipment (BSF) after they propose any desired changes.
This action will be considered as a public comment.
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I, CC on BLD_AAC, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both theProposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of theNFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power andauthority to enter into this copyright assignment.
By checking this box I affirm that I am CC on BLD_AAC, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. Iunderstand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as ahandwritten signature
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Correlating Committee Note No. 38-NFPA 5000-2016 [ New Section after 55.12 ]
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Committee Statement and Meeting Notes
CommitteeStatement:
The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Fundamentals (FUN) and the occupancy committees (AXM, END, HEA, BCF, RES,DET, MER, IND) to review the proposed change and determine if further changes are needed in the Code. The CorrelatingCommittee will revisit the scope of the TC on Building Service and Fire Protection Equipment (BSF) after they propose any desiredchanges.
This action will be considered as a public comment.
Ballot Results
This item has passed ballot
18 Eligible Voters
2 Not Returned
15 Affirmative All
1 Affirmative with Comments
0 Negative with Comments
0 Abstention
Not Returned
Newman, Michael T.
Wooldridge, Jerry
Affirmative All
DiCristina, Salvatore
Frable, David W.
Francis, Sam W.
Hansen, Raymond N.
Harrington, John C.
Hopper, Howard
Hugo, Jeffrey M.
Humble, Jonathan
Jones, Gerald H.
Leavitt, Russell B.
Quiter, James R.
Roberts, Richard Jay
Shah, Faimeen
Vinci, Leon F.
Willse, Peter J.
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Laramee, Scott T.
No comment, but no way to accept as "affirmative" without accepting all as "affirmative in the ballot portal.
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First Revision No. 1505-NFPA 5000-2015 [ New Section after 55.12 ]
55.13 Risk Analysis for Mass Notification Systems.
55.13.1 Where Required.
Where required by another section of this Code , a risk analysis for mass notification systems shall be provided in accordance withthe requirements of NFPA 72 and the provisions of 55.13.2 through 55.13.4 .
55.13.2 Considerations.
The risk analysis required by 55.13.1 shall additionally address all of the following considerations:
(1) Fire and non-fire emergencies
(2) Specific nature and anticipated risks of each facility
(3) Characteristics of associated buildings, areas, spaces, campuses, equipment, and operations
55.13.3 Emergency Communications System.
An emergency communications system in accordance with NFPA 72 shall be provided where the need for such a system is identifiedby the risk analysis required by 55.13.1 , commensurate with the likelihood, vulnerability, magnitude, and potential consequences ofemergencies.
55.13.4 Emergency Action Plan.
The completed emergency action plan shall be used for the design guideline for the mass notification/emergency communicationssystem.
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CommitteeStatement:
The purpose of this revision is to provide a requirement to conduct a risk analysis and create an emergency action plan for thefacility. The need for effective emergency communications in the United States came into sharp focus in the 20th century inresponse to threats to homeland security and our educational occupancies. We have learned from the recent incidents that occurredin our college/university campuses and other buildings, and have created installation guidelines to be followed for life safety. [Aurora,CO. Theater 2012; Columbine 1999; Virginia Tech 2007; Sandy Hook 2012; Weather Tornadoes/Storms]. //
The National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) School Safety, Codes and Security Workshop, was held December 3–4, 2014, inCollege Park, Maryland, and was sponsored and hosted by NFPA. This report highlights the need for real time communicationsystems in appropriate occupancies. //
NFPA 72, National Fire Alarm and Signaling Code, has a chapter dedicated to Emergency Communication Systems. This containsthe detailed information on the risk analysis and emergency action plan as required in the above proposed sections. //
This is NOT intended to require a mass notification system. There are many elements contained within a mass notification syste, theprocess of the risk analysis will outline what is needed based on risk and engineering study for the occupancy. It will be theresponsibility of the occupancy to react to the risk assessment. //
A task group has been appointed to further review the location of the material in Ch. 55. The committee requests the CorrelatingCommittee review this action in conjunction with related actions by the TC on Fundamentals and the occupancy committees toensure the provisions are appropriately coordinated. The committee also requests the CC review the scope of BLD-BSF torecommend any needed changes to accommodate the addition of the proposed language. //
The task group will also address the reference to an emergency action plan, which is not currently required by NFPA 5000.
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This item has passed ballot
28 Eligible Voters
5 Not Returned
23 Affirmative All
0 Affirmative with Comments
0 Negative with Comments
0 Abstention
Not Returned
Chen, Flora F.
Donga, Paul M.
Grill, Raymond A.
Noveh, James
Szmanda, Michael R.
Affirmative All
Bradley, Harry L.
Brock, Pat D.
Dale, Stephen E.
Hagood, Claudia
Hammerberg, Thomas P.
Hugo, Jeffrey M.
Hutton, Claude O.
Jardin, Joseph M.
Kellett, Michael
Killian, David A.
Klepitch, David L.
Larrimer, Peter A.
Lazarz, Daniel J.
Moore, Wayne D.
Nuschler, Gary L.
Panowitz, Scott E.
Reiswig, Rodger
Roberts, Richard Jay
Ruchala, Kurt A.
Shudak, Lawrence J.
Warner, Todd W.
Wren, Carl D.
Wyatt, David M.
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Committee Input No. 524-NFPA 101-2015 [ Global Input ]
Paragraphs 32.2.3.5.8 and 33.2.3.5.8 will be updated by the TC on Board and CareFacilities to reflect the paragraph numbers in the 2017 edition of NFPA 25 via secondrevisions. The 2017 edition of NFPA 25 is not yet available.
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This Global CI is intended to serve as a placeholder to allow the neededupdating at the second draft stage.
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Committee Input No. 525-NFPA 101-2015 [ Section No. 32.7.1 ]
32.7.1 Emergency Action Plan.
32.7.1.1
The administration of every residential board and care facility shall have, in effect and availableto all supervisory personnel, written copies of a plan for protecting all persons in the event offire, for keeping persons in place, for evacuating persons to areas of refuge, and for evacuatingpersons from the building when necessary.
32.7.1.2
The emergency action plan shall include special staff response, including the fire protectionprocedures needed to ensure the safety of any resident, and shall be amended or revisedwhenever any resident with unusual needs is admitted to the home.
32.7.1.3
All employees shall be periodically instructed and kept informed with respect to their duties andresponsibilities under the plan, and such instruction shall be reviewed by the staff not less thanevery 2 months.
32.7.1.4
A copy of the plan shall be readily available at all times within the facility.
Supplemental Information
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CI-525_Attachment.docx New A.32.7.1
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Committee Statement: The revision adds a new A.32.7.1 based on A.12.4.1.3(4).
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Committee Input No. 526-NFPA 101-2015 [ Global Input ]
Paragraphs 32.3.3.8 and 33.3.3.8 will be reviewed by the TC on Board and Care Facilitiesand compared with the corresponding provisions for health care occupancies, and makeany needed updates via second revisions. This global CI is intended to serve as aplaceholder to permit any needed updating at the second draft stage.
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CommitteeStatement:
The CI is intended to permit further review of the BCF cooking facility requirementsto ensure they are consistent with those in the health care occupancy chapters.
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Committee Input No. 7002-NFPA 5000-2015 [ Section No. 22.2.1 ]
22.2.1 General.
22.2.1.1
The provisions of Chapter 11 shall not apply to means of escape, unless specifically referencedin this chapter.
22.2.1.2
Where bathtubs, bathtub-shower combinations, or showers are present, grab bars shall beprovided in accordance with the provisions of 11.1.6.5.
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Submittal Date: Mon Aug 31 13:20:26 EDT 2015
Committee Statement
Committee Statement: See the substantiation for PI-156.
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Committee Input No. 7003-NFPA 5000-2015 [ Section No. 23.2.1 ]
23.2. 1 General.
23.2. 1 .1
The provisions of Chapter 11 shall not apply to means of escape, unless specificallyreferenced in this chapter.
23.2.1.2
Where bathtubs, bathtub-shower combinations, or showers are present, grab bars shall beprovided in accordance with the provisions of 11.1.6.5.
23.2.1 Number and Types of Means of Escape.
23.2.1.1 Primary Means of Escape.
23.2.1.1.1
Every sleeping room and living area shall have access to a primary means of escape complyingwith 22.2.2.2 and located to provide a safe path of travel to the outside.
23.2.1.1.2
Where sleeping rooms are above or below the level of exit discharge, the primary means ofescape shall be an interior stair in accordance with 23.2.2, an exterior stair, or a horizontal exitin accordance with 11.2.4.
23.2.1.2 Secondary Means of Escape.
In addition to the primary route, each sleeping room and living area shall have a secondarymeans of escape in accordance with 22.2.2.4, unless the sleeping room or living area has adoor leading directly outside the building with access to the finished ground level or to astairway that meets the requirements for exterior stairs in 23.2.1.1.
23.2.1.3 Two Primary Means of Escape.
In buildings other than those protected throughout by an approved automatic sprinkler system inaccordance with 23.3.6 that is electrically supervised in accordance with 55.3.2, every story
having an area greater than 2000 ft2 (185 m2), or with travel distance to the primary means ofescape more than 75 ft (23 m), shall be provided with two primary means of escape remotelylocated from each other.
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Committee Statement: See the substantiation for PI-157.
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Committee Input No. 7008-NFPA 5000-2015 [ New Section after 23.3.7 ]
23.3.8 Integrated Fire Protection Systems.
Integrated fire protection systems shall be tested in accordance with 55.1.4.
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Submittal Date: Tue Sep 01 14:47:11 EDT 2015
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CommitteeStatement:
The revision incorporates the new 55.1.4 integrated fire protection systemtesting requirements.
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Committee Input No. 7004-NFPA 5000-2015 [ New Section after 24.3.4.10.4 ]
24.3.4.11 Risk Analysis for Mass Notification Systems.
A risk analysis for mass notification systems shall be provided for new K through 12, college,and university dormitories in accordance with Section 55.13.
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Submittal Date: Mon Aug 31 13:40:26 EDT 2015
Committee Statement
Committee Statement: See the substantiation for PI-76.
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Committee Input No. 7009-NFPA 5000-2015 [ New Section after 24.3.8 ]
24.3.9 Integrated Fire Protection Systems.
Integrated fire protection systems shall be tested in accordance with 55.1.4.
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Submittal Date: Tue Sep 01 14:51:21 EDT 2015
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The revision incorporates the new 55.1.4 integrated fire protection systemtesting requirements.
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Committee Input No. 7011-NFPA 5000-2015 [ New Section after 25.3.4.6.3 ]
25.3.5 Risk Analysis for Mass Notification Systems.
A risk analysis for mass notification systems shall be provided in accordance with Section 55.13.
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Submittal Date: Tue Sep 01 15:09:19 EDT 2015
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Committee Statement: The revision is intended to correlate with NFPA 101.
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Committee Input No. 7010-NFPA 5000-2015 [ New Section after 25.3.9 ]
25.3.10 Integrated Fire Protection Systems.
Integrated fire protection systems shall be tested in accordance with 55.1.4.
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Submittal Date: Tue Sep 01 14:52:40 EDT 2015
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CommitteeStatement:
The revision incorporates the new 55.1.4 integrated fire protection systemtesting requirements.
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