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Meeting of the Technical Committee on Hazardous Materials Response Personnel Report on Comments (NFPA 472 and 473) October 46, 2011 Renaissance Fort Lauderdale Hotel 1617 SE 17 th Street Fort Lauderdale, FL 19546261700 8:30 AM EST Agenda 1. Call to Order – Chair Greg Noll 2. Introduction of Members and Guests 3. Chair’s Remarks and Purpose of Meeting 4. Review of minutes from previous meeting 5. Committee Procedures – Staff Liaison Tom McGowan a. NFPA Codes and Standards Making Process ROC b. ProQual JPR Format c. Document Cycle Information d. NFPA Updates e. HMWMD Handbook 6. Review of NFPA Pro Qual Workshop and FollowUp Actions – Greg Noll 7. Review of ROC – Technical Committee a. Document Cycle Information b. Review of Public Comments and Actions c. Committee Comments and Actions 8. New Business/Task Group Sessions a. NFPA 475 (formerly NFPA 471) Glen Rudner, Bob Royall and Tony Mussorfiti b. NFPA 1072 (ProQual doc) Charlie Wright 9. Adjourn at the Close of Business

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  • Meeting of the Technical Committee on  Hazardous Materials Response Personnel  

     Report on Comments (NFPA 472 and 473) 

      October 4‐6, 2011 

    Renaissance Fort Lauderdale Hotel 1617 SE 17th Street  Fort Lauderdale, FL 1‐954‐626‐1700 8:30 AM EST 

     Agenda 

     1. Call to Order – Chair Greg Noll 

    2. Introduction of Members and Guests  

    3. Chair’s Remarks and Purpose of Meeting 

    4. Review of minutes from previous meeting   

    5. Committee Procedures – Staff Liaison Tom McGowan a. NFPA Codes and Standards Making Process ‐ ROC  b. ProQual JPR Format  c. Document Cycle Information  d. NFPA Updates  e. HMWMD Handbook 

     6. Review of NFPA Pro Qual Workshop and Follow‐Up Actions – Greg Noll 

     7. Review of ROC – Technical Committee  

    a. Document Cycle Information b. Review of Public Comments and Actions c. Committee Comments and Actions 

     8. New Business/Task Group Sessions   

    a. NFPA 475 (formerly NFPA 471) ‐ Glen Rudner, Bob Royall and Tony Mussorfiti  b. NFPA 1072 (Pro‐Qual doc) ‐ Charlie Wright 

     9. Adjourn at the Close of Business 

  • National Fire Protection Association Technical Committee on Hazardous Materials Response Personnel

    Meeting Minutes

    February 2-3, 2011 Embassy Suites Phoenix-Tempe

    Phoenix, AZ

    Meeting Start Time: 8:30 a.m. on Wednesday, February 2

    1) Call to order at 0830 and welcoming remarks (Chairman Greg Noll)

    a) Mr. Noll acknowledged everybody’s effort to attend

    2) Self-introduction of members and guests

    a) Greg Noll

    b) Robert Stenner

    c) Chris Tracy

    d) Bruce Kelly

    e) Fred Terryn

    f) Tom Miller

    g) Mike Hildebrand

    h) Nick Del Re

    i) Tony Mussorfiti

    j) Rick Raksnis

    k) Danny Simpson

    l) Lee Nelson

    m) Tom Clawson

    n) Wade Collins

    o) Christine Baxter

    p) Kevin Johnson

    q) Rob Schnepp

    r) Charlie Wright

    s) Dave Trebisacci

    t) Glen Rudner

    u) Leslie Miller (Tele-Conference)

    v) Manny Ehrlich (Tele-Conference)

    w) Matt Minson (Tele – Conference 2/3/11)

    Membership and Rosters – it is recommended that each primary have an alternate, as this will provide for a much smoother administrative transition when there are changes in organizational representatives. If a member or organizational representative does not have an alternate, the “slot” is then lost and must be reapplied for through the NFPA Standards Council.

    Acknowledgement of Dave’s last meeting. Greg discussed the history of the liaison position and its importance to the committee. Introduction of Tom McGowan as the staff liaison position that will replace Dave. The chairman and the committee thanked Dave for his service and professionalism.

    3) Approval of minutes of meeting in Des Plaines, IL, November 3-4, 2010

    a) Charlie Wright - motion to accept minutes

    b) Tom Miller – second to the motion.

    c) Chairman polled so moved and accepted

    4) Approval of agenda

  • - 2 -

    5) Staff liaison report (Dave Trebisacci)

    a) Committee procedural statement – Read by Dave

    b) TC membership update

    i) 30 Members

    ii) 12 Alternates

    iii) 2 non-voting members

    iv) Committee is in balance

    c) NFPA 472 and 473 revision cycle dates

    i) Annual 2012 Cycle with 2013 Cover Date

    ii) ROP Published on June 24, 2011

    iii) Comment Closing Date August 30, 2011

    iv) Final Date for ROC November 4, 2011

    v) If no NITMAMS next editions available Summer 2012

    6) Review of public proposals (sent separately) a) 5 Actions to take;

    i) Accept ii) Accept in part iii) Accept in principle iv) Accept in principle in part v) Reject

    b) All actions other than “Accept” must have a TC statement of action c) All TC proposals must have a substantiations

    7) All of the E- Committee page will now be on the Doc Info page. www.nfpa.orga) Follow to Code and Standards box

    http://www.nfpa.org/aboutthecodes/list_of_codes_and_standards.aspb) Follow to the Standard you wish to follow and review documents as well any information available

    about the committee, makeup, etc

    The committee discussed each of the submitted proposals. All notes pertaining to each proposal as well as recommended changes were captured by staff liaison Dave Trebisacci and Charlie Wright in the NFPA 472 and NFPA 473 Travel File and on the 472 and 473 Working Documents.

    1145 – Lunch

    1300 Discussion restart at Log 17 of the 472 ROP’s

  • - 3 -

    8) Discussed meeting dates for ROC October 4th -6th, 2011, and members should plan on a 3-day meeting, with the ability to catch late afternoon flights on the 6th. First choice will be Ft. Lauderdale, FL, followed by Charleston, SC. San Francisco, CA was also discussed as a possible third option.

    9) Review of committee proposals

    a) Discussions on the CP 1 – 13 b) Log17 has been placed on hold until end for further discussion. c) We will start with CP 14 at start of business on Thursday.

    Meeting Start Time: 8:00 a.m. on Thursday, February 3, 2011

    10) Continued with review of CP’s and Public Comments; a) All comments and documentation covered by Staff Liaison in the ROP will be available to

    committee members. Charlie Wright tracked all changes and additions to the document on the master document

    12) New business: a) None discussed

    13) Next meeting date and location – Window 8/30/11 to 11/4/11 a) Dr. Baxter working with Ft. Lauderdale and NFPA staff will work with the Chair and NFPA to

    make announcement. Proposed dates are October 3 travel 4, 5, 6 ½ day.

    10) Adjourn at 1645.

  • Illustration of Proposed Action Items for Inter‐Committee Coordination

    Current Future

    Pro‐Qual TCC

    TC TC TC

    Pro‐Qual TCC

    TC TC TC

    Fire Fighter(NFPA 1001)

    TC TC TCCompetences Responders  HMWMD (NFPA 472)

    TC TC TC

    Fire Fighter(NFPA 1001)

    Competences Responders  HMWMD (NFPA 472)

    Fire Inspector/PE(NFPA 1031)

    Fire Inspector/PE(NFPA 1031)

    ProQual HMWMD 

    (NFPA 10XX)

    Driver Operator

    (NFPA 1002)

    Driver Operator

    (NFPA 1002)

    Competencies EMS RespdersHMWMD (NFPA 473)Competencies 

    EMS RespdersHMWMD

    (NFPA 472)

    (Task Groups) (Task Groups)

    ARFF(NFPA 1003)

    Marine

    ARFF(NFPA 1003)

    Marine

    HMWMD (NFPA 473)

    April 2011Prepared by NFPA Staff

    Marine(NFPA 1005) (NFPA 1005)

  • Overall Summary of Pro‐Qual Now and Beyond Workshop Recommendations April 13‐14 2011 

    Issue Category    Recommendation 

    TC/TCC Scopes 

    1 Standardized TC and Document Scope Language.  Provide standardized boiler‐plate language for TC scopes and document scopes, and make available for all applicable TCs to minimize scope conflicts and creep. 

    2 Updated TC Scopes.  Direct applicable TCs to review their existing TC scopes and confirm they are (1) verified regarding overlap concerns or (2) propose revisions for review by the Standards Council to clarify jurisdictional boundaries. 

    3  Model Scoping Approach.  Institute a model/template for overlap issues, based on the approach used to address hazardous materials. 

    Document Processing 

    4  Review of Processing Options.  Review options within each project to improve processing efficiency and effectiveness without creating undue hardship on the established infrastructure. 

    5 Revision Cycle Coordination.  Coordinate the revision cycles of applicable standards to facilitate co‐processing and overlap between different committee projects during document processing, with the intent to promote harmony and consistency (e.g. NFPA committee‐weeks‐model). 

    6 TC Member Participation.  Clarify with the Chairs of the applicable TCs and TCC the process to work with Staff to ensure Standards Council policies for TC member participation are monitored and enforced by annual reporting to the Standards Council. 

    7 Voting Status of TC Chairs on Pro‐Qual TCC.  Improve the functionality of the Pro‐Qual TCC by revising the ”vote limited” status of the TC Chairs, to allow them to vote on issues except those directly pertaining to their assigned standards.  

    General Content  

    8  Document Titles.  Review and update the titles of standards to accurately represent the scope and content, not only of the standard itself but also the overall project (in the case of large projects). 

    9  Training Time Guidance.  Consider providing guidance on making an assessment of required training times based on JPRS to implement their competencies. 

    10 Similar Topics Across Multiple Standards.  Examine ProQual standards for mutual exclusivity of certain technical topics to better coordinate requisite levels (e.g. foam is taught in multiple levels in various standards and which involves the same JPRs. 

    Specific Content  

    11  Hazmat Specific JPR Information in Current Revision Cycle.  Process the NFPA 472 and NFPA 1001 documents in their current revision cycles without hazmat specific JPR information. 

    12 

    New Hazmat Pro‐Qual Requirements.  Continue to process current NFPA 1001 standard to referenceNFPA 472 Awareness and Operations level requirements until such time as a new hazmat Pro‐Qual standard is approved, preceding in as expeditious a manner as possible without sacrificing progress already established. 

    13 

    Reporting Structure for Hazmat Pro‐Qual Requirements.  Re‐align the scopes of applicable committees so that the existing NFPA Technical Committee on Hazardous Materials prepares a hazmat Pro‐Qual standard that is JPR based, including but not limited to Awareness, Operations, Mission Specific Operations, Technician, and Incident Commander levels, to be processed through the Pro‐Qual TCC for this document. 

    14 Recertification Impact Assessment.  Fully assess the impact of recertification on organizations responsible for accreditation and certification (e.g. ProBoard, IFSAC, etc) prior to any proposed implementation. 

    15  Recertification Based on Expiration Date.  Instead of requiring recertification, consider an alternative approach of implementing an expiration date on current certifications. 

    General 

    16 Fire Service Advisory Committee.  Establish an umbrella entity for correlation and on‐going harmonization at a higher level than what currently exists for the Pro‐Qual TCC (i.e. similar to the HRBSAC and DARAC advisory committees). 

    17 

    Inter‐Committee Coordination.  Promote the continued use of task groups and other methods (i.e. extract policy) to facilitate harmonization between the Technical Committees responsible for scope overlap issues (e.g.  NFPA 472 and NFPA 1001) to clearly align and coordinate the criteria in both documents to make sure all requirements will be consistent. 

    18  Needs Assessment and Sunset Policy.  Establish a protocol for a needs assessment to clarify the basis for retiring documents through a sunset policy (e.g. every 10 years). 

    19  Terminology.  Clarify the terminology used throughout all documents that are directly or indirectly addressing Pro‐Qual related requirements 

    20  Periodic Review of Pro‐Qual Related Issues.  Consider establishing an on‐going or periodic review process of Pro‐Qual related issues, similar to the activities addressed by this workshop. 

  • Report on Comments – June 2012 NFPA 472_______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #62

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Richard Hansen, National Security Technologies, LLC (NSTec)

    472-2Revise text to read as follows:

    1.1.2* This standard shall apply to any individual or member of any organization who responds to hazardousmaterials/WMD incidents. Personnel conducting Preventative Radiological/Nuclear Detection (PRND) operations are notconsidered to be conducting emergency responses to hazardous materials/WMD incidents.

    A.1.1.2. Personnel conducting Preventative Radiological/Nuclear Detection (PRND) operations use radiation detectionand radionuclide identification instruments to screen personnel, vehicles, cargos, buildings, and areas for elevatedradiation levels and investigate the source of the detected radiation. These PRND activities do not fall under the scopeof NFPA 472, but if the PRND operations determine a hazardous materials/WMD emergency exists, then theresponders to that emergency incident do fall within scope of the NFPA 472.

    Adding these statements to NFPA 472 should eliminate the confusion exits in the response communitywhether personnel conducting Preventative Radiological/Nuclear Detection (PRND) operations are considered to beconducting emergency responses to hazardous materials/WMD incidents and therefore need to have competenciesdefined in NFPA 472 for core competencies for operations level responders and operations level responders assignedto: use PPE, perform technical decontamination, and perform air monitoring and sampling. PRND screening operationsthat investigate elevated radiation without indications of a release or likely release of radioactive material are notemergency response operations for hazardous materials and do not fall within the scope of OSHA 29 CFR 1910.120Hazardous Waste Operations and Emergency Response. If the primary or secondary screener personnel have sufficientindications of dangerous conditions (such as suspicious packages, criminal behavior, leaks or spills of radioactivematerial, or radiation levels higher than legal limits for legitimate sources), then they are trained to stop the screeningoperation, and initiate an appropriate emergency response. This procedure reduces the hazards (including radiologicalhazards) to the screening personnel. Detection of radiation (a radiation “alarm”) by a PRND screener is consideredpossible but not probable illicit transport, storage, or use of radiological/nuclear materials or WMDs; however, the alarmis probably caused by one of the millions of innocent sources of radiation (nuclear medicine patients, ceramic tiles,asphalt in roadways, legitimate industrial gauges, etc). Additional assistance from other PRND personnel and technicalreachback support (offsite experts) may be needed to resolve a radiation alarm. This occurrence is not considered anemergency nor are the deployment additional assets considered an emergency response operation until assessment byonsite or offsite personnel determines the situation to be a likely threat or hazard.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #65

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Richard Hansen, National Security Technologies, LLC (NSTec)

    472-4Add new text to read as follows:

    Improvised Nuclear Device (IND). An illicit nuclear weapon that is bought, stolen, or otherwise obtained from a nuclearState (that is, a national government with nuclear weapons), or a weapon fabricated by a terrorist group from illegallyobtained nuclear weapons material and produces a nuclear explosion.

    Annex A. The nuclear explosion from an IND produces extreme heat, powerful shockwaves, and prompt radiation thatwould be acutely lethal for a significant distance. It also produces potentially lethal radioactive fallout, which may spreadand deposit over very large areas. A nuclear detonation in an urban area could result in over 100,000 fatalities (andmany more injured), massive infrastructure damage, and thousands of square kilometers of contaminated land. If theIND fails to work correctly and does not create a nuclear explosion, then the detonation of the conventional explosiveswould likely disperse radioactive material like an explosive Radiological Dispersal Device (RDD).

    Currently NFPA 472 does not define the term Improvised Nuclear Device (IND)This definition is based on the Untied States Department of Homeland Security (DHS), Federal Emergency

    Management Agency (FEMA), Planning Guidance for Protection and Recovery Following Radiological Dispersal Device(RDD) and Improvised Nuclear Device (IND) Incidents and DHS/FEMA. Nuclear/Radiological Incident Annex (NRIA) tothe National Response Framework (NRF).

    1Printed on 9/22/2011

  • Report on Comments – June 2012 NFPA 472_______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #66

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Richard Hansen, National Security Technologies, LLC (NSTec)

    472-4Add new text to read as follows:

    Radiation Exposure Device (RED): An device intended to cause harm by exposing people to radiation withoutspreading radioactive material. An example of a RED is unshielded or partially shielded radioactive material placed inany type of container and in a location capable of causing a radiation exposure to one or more individuals. Also called a“Radiological Exposure Device (RED)” or “hidden source.”

    Annex A. An RED may cause a few deaths, but normally would not cause widespread radiological contamination. AnRED may be hidden in public transportation (under a bus or subway seat), a busy shopping mall (the food court, forexample), movie theater, or any other location where a large number of people may sit, stand, or pass close byindividuals who come in contact with, touch, or sit on a radioactive material container do not become contaminated. Thedanger is from exposure, for extended periods of time, to high levels of radiation close to the radioactive material. If theRED were to break open, then some of the radioactive material could be released, causing contamination. If this occurs,the RED becomes an Radiological Dispersal Device (RDD), and people coming in contact with it could spreadcontamination elsewhere.

    Currently NFPA 472 does not define the term Radiation Exposure Device (RED)This definition is based on the following:- United States Department of Energy (DOE), Safeguards and Security Program References- DOE, DHS, and United States Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC), Joint DOE/DHS/NRC Classification Guide for

    Radiological Dispersal Devices and Radiation Exposure Devices- United States Department of Health & Human Services, Radiation Emergency Medical Management (REMM),

    Dictionary of Radiation Terms- United States Department of Health & Human Services, Office of the Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and

    Response (ASPR), Responding to an RDD / RED Emergency: the HHS Playbook- Radiation Source Protection and Security Task Force, The Radiation Source Protection and Security Task Force

    Report- Ansari, A, Radiation Threats and Your Safety: A Guide to Preparation and Response for Professionals and

    Community

    2Printed on 9/22/2011

  • Report on Comments – June 2012 NFPA 472_______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #67

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Richard Hansen, National Security Technologies, LLC (NSTec)

    472-4Add new text to read as follows:

    Radiological Dispersal Device (RDD). Any device that intentionally spreads radioactive material across an area withthe intent to cause harm, without a nuclear explosion occurring. An RDD that uses explosives for spreading ordispersing radioactive material is commonly referred to as a “dirty bomb” or “explosive RDD.” Non-explosive RDDscould spread radioactive material using common items such as pressurized containers, fans, building air-handlingsystems, sprayers, crop dusters, or even spreading by hand.

    Annex A. The harm caused by an RDD is principally contamination, and denial of use of the contaminated area,perhaps for many years. Few deaths would occur due to the radiation and radioactive material from an RDD. For anexplosive RDD, the explosion adds an immediate threat to human life and property.

    Currently NFPA 472 does not define the term Radiological Dispersal Device (RDD)This definition is based on the following:- Untied States Department of Homeland Security (DHS), Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), Planning

    Guidance for Protection and Recovery Following Radiological Dispersal Device (RDD) and Improvised Nuclear Device(IND) Incidents

    - DOE, DHS, and United States Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC), Joint DOE/DHS/NRC Classification Guide forRadiological Dispersal Devices and Radiation Exposure Devices

    - United States Department of Health & Human Services, Radiation Emergency Medical Management (REMM),Dictionary of Radiation Terms

    - United States Department of Health & Human Services, Office of the Assistant Secretary for Preparedness andResponse (ASPR), Responding to an RDD / RED Emergency: the HHS Playbook

    - Radiation Source Protection and Security Task Force, The Radiation Source Protection and Security Task ForceReport

    - National Council on Radiation Protection and Measurement (NCRP), Responding to a Radiological or NuclearTerrorism Incident: A Guide for Decision Makers, NCRP Report No. 165

    - ASTM International, Standard Practice for Radiological Emergency Response

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #61

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Tony J. Mussorfiti, PNNL

    472-4Revise text to read as follows:

    When already on the scene of a hazardous materials/WMD incident, the awareness level personnel shall be able toperform the following tasks:

    (2) Implement actions consistent with the emergency response plan, the standard operating procedures, and thecurrent edition of the DOT by completing the following tasks:

    (a) Initiate protective actions(b) Initiate the notification process

    radiation or radioactivity is the energy or particle, while radioactive material is the substancethat can be dispersed.

    3Printed on 9/22/2011

  • Report on Comments – June 2012 NFPA 472_______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #68

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Richard Hansen, National Security Technologies, LLC (NSTec)

    472-4Revise text to read as follows:

    3.3.21 Dispersal Device. Any weapon or combination of mechanical, electrical or pressurized components that isdesigned, intended or used to cause death or serious bodily injury through the release, dissemination or impact of toxicor poisonous chemicals or their precursors, biological agent, toxin or vector or radiation or radioactivity radioactivematerial.

    A dispersal device releases material. Radioactive material is the material. Radiation and radioactivityare not a materials. A device that emits dangerous levels of radiation but does not disperse radioactive material is calleda Radiation Exposure Device (RED), not a Dispersal Device.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #1

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-33Revise current 3.3.34.2 to read as follows:

    Person who providestechnical support pertaining to marine tank and non-tank vessels, provides oversight for product removal and movementof damaged marine tank and non-tank vessels, and acts as a liaison between the hazardous materials technician andother outside resources.

    Revise to correspond reflect actual title of Chapter 15 being added to the document.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #2

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-34Add the following to Chapter 3 for consistency since Chapter 16 was taken out of the Annex and

    added to the body of the document, it needs to be listed as a hazardous materials technician specialty:Person who, in

    incidents involving bulk flammable liquid storage tanks and related facilities, provides support to the hazardous materialstechnician and other personnel, provides strategic and tactical recommendations to the on-scene incident commander,provides oversight for fire control and product removal operations, and acts as a liaison between technicians, responsepersonnel, and outside resources.

    To be consistent with current practice upon adding specialties (Chapter 16) for the HazardousMaterials Technician. (Also Chapters 17, 18)

    4Printed on 9/22/2011

  • Report on Comments – June 2012 NFPA 472_______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #3

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-35Add the following to Chapter 3 for consistency since Chapter 17 was taken out of the Annex and

    added to the body of the document, it needs to be listed as a hazardous materials technician specialty:Person who, in

    incidents involving flammable gas bulk storage tanks, provide support to the hazardous materials technician and otherpersonnel, provide strategic and tactical recommendations to the on-scene incident commander, provide oversight forfire control and product removal operations, and act as a liaison between technicians, fire-fighting personnel, and otherresources.

    To be consistent with current practice when adding specialties (Chapter 17) for the hazardousmaterials technician to the document. Also Chapters 16 and 18.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #4

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-40Add the following to Chapter 3 for consistency since Chapter 18 was taken out of the Annex and

    added to the body of the document, it needs to be listed as a hazardous materials technician specialty:Person who provides support to

    the hazardous materials technician and other personnel, uses radiation detection instruments, manages the control ofradiation exposure, conducts hazards assessment, and acts as a liaison between hazardous materials technicians atincidents involving radioactive materials.

    To be consistent with current practice upon adding specialties (Chapter 16) for the HazardousMaterials Technician to the document. Should correspond to .

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #60

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Tony J. Mussorfiti, PNNL

    N/ARevise text to read as follows:

    A plan developed by the authority having jurisdiction, with the cooperation of allparticipating agencies and organizations, from which a jurisdiction with emergency responsibilities and those outside thejurisdiction, have entered into response/support agreements, (i.e., EMAC, etc.) that identifies the goals and objectivesfor that emergency type, agency roles, and overall strategies.  that details specific actions to be performed by allpersonnel who are expected to respond during an emergency.

    An oral or written plan approved by the incident commander, containing generalobjectives reflecting the overall strategy for managing an incident for a specific timeframe, target location, etc.

    I always thought the difference between an ERP & IAP was the ERP was an overall plan fora type of emergency,  where an IAP was for a specific timeframe, target location, etc. (I.e. US Golf Open, an extendedoperations such as the WTC). Thoughts?

    5Printed on 9/22/2011

  • Report on Comments – June 2012 NFPA 472_______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #5

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-4Revise 3.4.3 to read as follows; change the number to 3.4.7; and change the numbering as

    necessary:3.4.3

    Persons, competent at the operationslevel, who are assigned to interrupt the functioning of an improvised WMD dispersal device or conduct mitigationprocedures on energetic materials, shall be that person, competent at the operations level who is assigned to performdisablement and/or disruption procedures on an improvised explosive device (IED) or WMD dispersal device.

    3.4.3 is not consistent with other titles in Chapter 6 Mission-Specific Responsibilities. Currentshould be renumbered ( ) with the added verbiage . Aswritten, this is an action, not a person. Verbiage in 3.4.3 (proposed 3.4.8) and 6.1.1.1 (9) should be consistent. Theissue is the word “Perform” and “Handle” – the word “perform” is used in 6.10.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #59

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Tony J. Mussorfiti, PNNL

    472-8Revise text to read as follows:

    4.2.1 (20)* Identify at least four indicators of secondary devices.

    A Secondary Device as per the annex material is considered an explosive device ((3) Avoid touching or moving anything that might conceal an explosive device. ), while using the term

    the responder is alert to all the possible threats.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #7

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-11Replace the word “determine” with the word “describe” in 5.3.1(1) and in 5.3.1(4).

    Clarify the action that responders take at this response level.

    6Printed on 9/22/2011

  • Report on Comments – June 2012 NFPA 472_______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #9

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-11Decide how to handle issue with two options in the ROP: Log CP#3 and Log #15. Suggested

    revise by adding the “the” before “operations level” and drop the “s” at the end of responders to be consistent with othercompetencies in this chapter.

    Given scenarios involving hazardous materials/WMD incidents, theoperations level responders shall identify when emergency decontamination is needed and shall meet by completing thefollowing requirements:

    Add the word “the” before “operations level” and delete the final “s” after “operations level responders”to be consistent with other statements in the chapter.

    5.3.4 (Final Action on Committee submission 472-18 Log #CP4) does not agree with the Final Action on 373-16 Log#15 where the word “emergency” was deleted. Committee must decide which version is appropriate for the finalversion. Suggest deleting the word “emergency”.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #8

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-11Delete 5.3.4*(6) as desired competence appears to be captured in revised 5.3.4*(5).

    Delete 5.3.4*(6) is redundant.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #58

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Tony J. Mussorfiti, PNNL

    472-12Revise text to read as follows:

    5.4.2* Preserving Evidence. Given two scenarios involving hazardous materials/WMD incidents, theoperations level responder shall theprocess to preserve evidence as listed in the emergency response plan and/or standard operating procedures.

    The responder first needs to know what evidence is prior to preserving it.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #6

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-11Replace the word “determine” with the word “describe” in 5.2.4, 5.2.4(2), 5.2.4(4).

    Clarify the action that responders take at this response level.

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  • Report on Comments – June 2012 NFPA 472_______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #57

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Tony J. Mussorfiti, PNNL

    472-23Revise text to read as follows:This chapter shall address competencies for the following operations level responders assigned

    mission-specific responsibilities at hazardous materials/WMD incidents by the authority having jurisdiction beyond thecore competencies at the operations level (Chapter 5) and in the following section(s)::

    (1) - 6.2 Operations level responders assigned to use personal protective equipment(2) - 6.3 Operations level responders assigned to perform mass decontamination(3) - 6.4 Operations level responders assigned to perform technical decontamination(4) - 6.5 Operations level responders assigned to perform evidence preservation and sampling(5) - 6.6 Operations level responders assigned to perform product control(6) - 6.7 Operations level responders assigned to perform air monitoring and sampling(7) - 6.8 Operations level responders assigned to perform victim rescue/recovery(8) - 6.9 Operations level responders assigned to respond to illicit laboratory incidents(9) – 6.10 Operations level responders assigned to handle improvised WMD dispersal device disablement/disruption

    and operations at improvised explosive laboratories perform disablement and/or disruption procedures on an improvisedexplosive device (IED) or WMD dispersal device

    The change makes locating information within the standard easier, in regard to 6.10, the titleis more in line with other Mission Specific Titles and introduction

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #10

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-19Replace the word “handle” with the word “perform” in 6.1.1.1(9).

    Needs to be consistent with the word used in the section.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #11

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-18Need to address D. Snell’s comment on the affirmative:

    "...shall document the mass decontamination activities by completing the documentation requirements of theemergency response plan or standard operating procedures by completing the following requirement:

    Consistency with other such statements in Chapter 6.

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  • Report on Comments – June 2012 NFPA 472_______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #12

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-18Revise text to read as follows:

    6.5.3.1 (a) Describe the procedure for securing to secure, the scene and characterizing, and preserving evidence atthe scene.

    Need to clarify the intent of the competency. Is the intent to secure, characterize, and preserve theevidence on the scene or to secure the scene and characterize and preserve the evidence from the scene. Also, seecomments on 6.5.4.1(1).

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #13

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-18Revise the competency to read to clarify the intent:

    6.5.4.1(1) Demonstrate how to secure, the scene and characterize, and preserve evidence at the scene.Need to clarify the intent of the competency . . . also see 6.5.3.1 (a). Consistency between the two

    competencies is needed.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #14

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-18Revise the competency to clarify the intent so it reads:

    6.5.4.1(3) Determine when the whether responders are within their legal authority to perform evidence collectionpreservation and sampling tasks.

    Clarify intent of competency . . . since this is an implementation step.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #15

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-18Revise the competency to clarify the intent:

    6.5.4.1(4) Notify Identify the agency with investigative authority to be notified. Describe the procedure to notify theagency with investigative authority.

    Clarify the intent of the competency. Since this is under implementing the planned response, I wouldassume that the agency would have been identified in planning and under implementation, the key would be the abilityto make the appropriate notification.

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  • Report on Comments – June 2012 NFPA 472_______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #16

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-18Replace the words “demonstrate” and “recognize” with the word “describe”.

    In implementing the response, recognize/demonstrate are not the appropriate verbs...".

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #17

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-18Replace the words “demonstrate” and “recognize” with the word “describe”.

    In implementing the response, recognize/demonstrate are not the appropriate verbs...".

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #18

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-23In Section 6.10, when referring to the operations level responder assigned to perform “improvised

    WMD dispersal device disablement/disruption and operations at improvised explosives laboratories”, consistentverbiage should be used when referring to the operations level responder assigned to perform . . . I assume thatpeople meeting the competencies of this chapter will have to meet all the competencies, therefore the same title shouldbe used in each case

    There is a consistency issue within 6.10 in terms of the designation of the person . . . flowing is apartial list of the designations used:- “the operations level responder assigned to interrupt the functioning of an improvised WMD dispersal device orconduct mitigation procedures on energetic materials”“operations level responder who is assigned to perform disablement and/or disruption procedures on an improvisedexplosive device (IED) or WMD dispersal device”“operations level responder assigned to disablement/disruption”“operations level responder assigned to disable and/or disrupt an improvised WMD dispersal device at hazardousmaterials/WMD incident”“operations level responder assigned to conduct mitigation procedures on energetic materials at an improvisedexplosives laboratory incidents”

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #48

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Tony J. Mussorfiti, PNNL

    472-23Revise text to read as follows:

    6.10 Mission Specific Competencies: Improvised WMD Dispersal Device Disablement/ Disruption andOperations at Improvised Explosive Laboratories Operations level responder assigned to perform disablement and/ordisruption procedures on an improvised explosive device (IED) or WMD dispersal device

    This title is more in line with other Mission Specific Titles and introduction

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  • Report on Comments – June 2012 NFPA 472_______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #56

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Tony J. Mussorfiti, PNNL

    472-23Delete text to read as follows:

    Remove “hazardous material” where appropriate in section 6.10, because if an IED or WMD dispersaldevice is involved this is not an accidental hazardous material incident.

    because if an IED or WMD dispersal device is involved this is not an accidental hazardousmaterial incident.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #54

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Tony J. Mussorfiti, PNNL

    472-23Delete text to read as follows:

    6.10.1.2.2. (1) Analyze a hazardous materials/WMD incident involving an improvised WMD dispersal device todetermine the complexity of the problem and potential outcomes by completing the following tasks:

    a. Determine if an improvised WMD dispersal device is potentially present.a. Determine if an or WMD dispersal device is potentially present.

    List the categorizes for 6.10.1.2.2. (1) b.

    the language is constant with the mission described in 6.1.1.1

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #55

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Tony J. Mussorfiti, PNNL

    472-23Revise text to read as follows:

    6.10.1.2.2 (3) Implement the planned response to a hazardous materials/WMD incident involving anor WMD dispersal device by completing the following tasks under the guidance of the senior

    hazardous devices technician (HDT) present: in accordance with the FBI Hazardous Devices School “logic tree” orestablished protocol of the authority having jurisdiction for military units.

    a. Employ disablement/disruption techniques in accordance with the FBI Hazardous Devices School “logic tree” orestablished protocol of the authority having jurisdiction for military units.

    A Mission Specific personnel is already required to act under the guidance of a Tech or SOP. As per

    A Mission Specific personnel is already required to act under the guidance of a Tech or SOP.As per

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  • Report on Comments – June 2012 NFPA 472_______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #52

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Tony J. Mussorfiti, PNNL

    472-23Delete text to read as follows:

    When responding to hazardous materials/WMD incidents, the operations level responder assigned torespond to improvised explosive laboratory incidents shall be able to perform the following tasks:

    (1) Analyze a hazardous materials/WMD incident to determine the complexity of the problem and potential outcomesand whether the incident is potentially an improvised explosives laboratory operation.

    (2) Plan a response for a hazardous materials/WMD incident involving potential improvised explosives laboratoryoperations in compliance with mitigation techniques and evidence recovery within the capabilities and competencies ofavailable personnel, personal protective equipment and control equipment after notifying the responsible investigativeagencies of the problem.

    (3) Implement the planned response to a hazardous materials/WMD incident involving potential improvised explosiveslaboratory operations utilizing applicable standard operating procedures and/or technical advice from qualified alliedprofessionals.

    In essence, this is a repeat of the competencies in section 6.10.1.2.2. The location of theimprovised explosive device (IED) or WMD dispersal device should not make any difference. Suggestion: Either removeor require them to meet the competencies of section 6.9 Mission-Specific Competencies: Response to Illicit LaboratoryIncidents.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #53

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Tony J. Mussorfiti, PNNL

    472-23Delete text to read as follows:

    When responding to hazardous materials/WMD incidents, the operations level responder assigned torespond to improvised explosive laboratory incidents shall be able to perform the following tasks:

    (1) Analyze a hazardous materials/WMD incident to determine the complexity of the problem and potential outcomesand whether the incident is potentially an improvised explosives laboratory operation.

    (2) Plan a response for a hazardous materials/WMD incident involving potential improvised explosives laboratoryoperations in compliance with mitigation techniques and evidence recovery within the capabilities and competencies ofavailable personnel, personal protective equipment and control equipment after notifying the responsible investigativeagencies of the problem.

    (3) Implement the planned response to a hazardous materials/WMD incident involving potential improvised explosiveslaboratory operations utilizing applicable standard operating procedures and/or technical advice from qualified alliedprofessionals.

    Use of constant language through out the standard and in regard to the suggest addition ofhomicide bombers, there is a need to include them due to the potential of this type of event

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  • Report on Comments – June 2012 NFPA 472_______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #51

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Tony J. Mussorfiti, PNNL

    472-23Delete text to read as follows:

    IdentifyingThe operations level responder assigned to conduct mitigation procedures on energetic

    materials at an improvised explosives laboratory incidents shall be capable of identifying the unique aspects associatedwith such incidents by completing the following requirements:

    material detection mission.In essence, this is a repeat of the previous competencies. The location of the improvised explosive device

    (IED) or WMD dispersal device should not make any difference. Suggestion: Either remove or require them to meet thecompetencies of section 6.9 Mission-Specific Competencies: Response to Illicit Laboratory Incidents.

    In essence, this is a repeat of the previous competencies. The location of the improvisedexplosive device (IED) or WMD dispersal device should not make any difference. Suggestion: Either remove or requirethem to meet the competencies of section 6.9 Mission-Specific Competencies: Response to Illicit Laboratory Incidents.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #69

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Richard Hansen, National Security Technologies, LLC (NSTec)

    472-23Revise text to read as follows:

    c. Describe the application use and limitations of various types of field screening tools that can be utilized fordetermining the presence of the following materials:

    1) Radioactive materials that emit alpha, beta, gamma or neutron radiation, including radionuclide identification ofgamma emitting radioactive materials.

    2) Explosive materials (commercial and HME)Radioactive materials are the materials. Radiation is not a material. Personnel should also be familiar

    with instruments that identify the radionuclide or isotope.

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  • Report on Comments – June 2012 NFPA 472_______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #50

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Tony J. Mussorfiti, PNNL

    472-23Revise text to read as follows:

    Given scenarios involving a potential improvised explosive device (IED) or WMD materials dispersal device,the operations level responder assigned to perform disablement/disruption techniques by completing the following tasks:assigned to conduct mitigation procedures on energetic materials shall be able to perform the following tasks:

    (1) Using detection and monitoring devices provided by the AHJ, shall demonstrate the field test and operation of eachdevice and interpret the readings based on local or agency procedures.

    (2) Perform diagnostics based on procedures instructed by a nationally accredited Hazardous Devices school orprogram.

    (3) Perform disablement/disruption techniques in accordance with the FBI Hazardous Devices School “logic tree” orestablished protocol of the authority having jurisdiction for military units.

    Plan the air monitoring and sampling activities within the capabilities and competencies of available personnel,personal protective equipment, and control equipment and in accordance with the emergency response plan or standardoperating procedures describe the air monitoring and sampling options available to the operations level responder.

    Implement the air monitoring and sampling activities as specified in the incident action plan.Perform diagnostics based on procedures instructed by a nationally accredited Hazardous Devices school or program.Perform disablement/disruption techniques in accordance with the FBI Hazardous Devices School “logic tree” or

    established protocol of the authority having jurisdiction for military units.Given the air monitoring and sampling equipment provided by the AHJ, the operations level responder shall:Select the detection or monitoring equipment suitable for detecting or monitoring of the IED or WMD dispersal device.

    Describe the operation, capabilities and limitations, local monitoring procedures, field-testing, and maintenanceprocedures associated with each device.

    Demonstrate the field test and operation of each device and interpret the readings based on local procedures.Describe local procedures for decontamination of the detection and monitoring devices upon completion of the mission.

    The language used is more inline with the corresponding requirements of the competenciesin 6.7 Mission-Specific Competencies: Air Monitoring and Sampling.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #49

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Tony J. Mussorfiti, PNNL

    472-23Delete text to read as follows:Given a simulated improvised explosives laboratory incident, the operations level responder

    assigned to respond to improvised explosives laboratory incidents shall be able to perform the following tasks:(1) Describe the safe and effective methods for law enforcement to secure the scene(2) Demonstrate methods to identify and avoid unique safety hazards at improvised explosives laboratories such as

    booby traps, releases of hazardous materials and initiating components.(3) Using detection and monitoring devices provided by the AHJ, shall demonstrate the field test and operation of each

    device and interpret the readings based on local or agency procedures.(4) Describe the methods that could be utilized to mitigate the hazards identified

    Either remove or require them to meet the competencies of section 6.9 Mission-SpecificCompetencies: Response to Illicit Laboratory Incidents.

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  • Report on Comments – June 2012 NFPA 472_______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #19

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-24Delete the words “DOT Specification 51;” to stay consistent with the regulations—in line with

    7.2.3.1.1(4)(c)(1).Correct inaccurate information.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #20

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-24Revise the sentence to read:

    7.2.1.1.7 Given examples of the following packaging, the hazardous materials technician shall identify the package byname and identify the typical contents by name and hazard class:

    Need to address D. Snell Comment on Affirmative and provide a verb in the sentence.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #21

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-24Revise to read:

    Describe Demonstrate completion of how to complete the reports and supporting documentation required bythe emergency response plan or standard operating procedures.

    Clarify intent of competency.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #22

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-25Delete the word “or” and capitalize the “o” in “other”.

    Convention of lists in document have not conjunction before the last item in the list.

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  • Report on Comments – June 2012 NFPA 472_______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #23

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-28Revise all similar boilerplate statements in the standard to read as changed in 10.1.1.3: “The

    __________ shall also receive training to meet governmental response and health and safety regulations.”

    The statement “The _________ shall also receive training to meet governmental occupational healthand safety regulations.” Is used as a boilerplate statement in every chapter in the standard. Changing the statement toread – “The __________ shall also receive training to meet governmental response and health and safety regulations.”Indicates that all such statements within the document also be changed which would seem appropriate. If you changeone, you need to change them all – which is not a problem.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #24

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-28Revise 10.6.1 by replacing the words “incident commander” with the word “officer”.

    This is the chapter on the hazardous materials officer not the incident commander.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #25

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-28Revise items 10.6.1(1) and 10.6.2(2) by replacing the word “Identify” with the word “Describe” in

    both cases.Provides consistency of action verbs in the competency.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #26

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-29Revise the competencies, 11.4.4(3)(a-c),(4), (5), (6), by replacing the word “Assess” with the word

    “Verify”.Better describes the intent of the hazardous materials safety officer’s function.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #28

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-30Revise by adding the words “of damage in each example” after type.

    Clarify the intent of the competency.

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  • Report on Comments – June 2012 NFPA 472_______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #27

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-30Replace the word “versus” with “or” to be consistent with change made in 12.2.1(3)(c) so it reads”

    12.2.1(3)(i) Underframe – continuous versus or stub sillConsistency with change made in 12.2.1(3)(c).

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #29

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-30Revise to change “of” to “on” so that competency reads:

    12.2.2(12) Describe the significance of a critical dent of on a tank car in assessing tank damage.The critical dent will be on the tank car tank...".

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #30

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-30Correct language from “cargo tanks” to “tank cars”.

    Chapter 12 addresses “tank cars” not “cargo tanks”.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #31

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-32Revise Chapter 14's title to read as follows:

    Chapter 14 Competencies for Hazardous Materials Technicians with an Intermodal Tank Specialty.Revise so that title is consistent with Chapters 12·13 and 15·18.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #32

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-32Please revise to clarify the intent of this competency. Suggest deleting the confusing information in

    parentheses so it will be consistent with 12.4.1(7). Add information in the annex to indicate the possible methods of gasand liquid transfer - pressure differential (using product vapor pressure, vapor compressor, compressed air or inert gas,or vapor pressure with flaring), liquid pump, or a combination of both.

    What is the intent of this activity...why was pump deleted...it is a common option. This should beconsistent with 12.4.1(7).

    What is meant by pressure, do you mean pressure differential (compressor is one way of producing the pressuredifferential, but the other methods are not mentioned.

    Not quite sure what you mean here?

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  • Report on Comments – June 2012 NFPA 472_______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #33

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-33Revise Chapter 15's title to read as follows:

    Chapter 15 Competencies for the Hazardous Materials Technicians with a Marine Tank and Non-Tank VesselSpecialty.

    Revise so that title is consistent with previous chapters.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #34

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-33Revise the statement to read:

    15.1.2.1 The goal of the competencies in this chapter shall be to provide the hazardous materials technician with amarine tank and non-tank specialty with the knowledge and skills to perform the tasks in 15.1.2.2 safely.

    Revise all other goal statements in the document to be consistent with this boilerplate sentence.Similar boilerplate statements in the standard address this statement inconsistently. It is the

    competencies in this chapter that impart the appropriate knowledge and skills.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #35

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-33Revise 15.1.3 to read:

    15.1.3 Hazardous materials technicians operating within the bounds of their training as listed in Chapter 67 of thisstandard shall be able to respond to marine vessel incidents.

    Hazardous materials technicians must be trained as specified in Chapter 7 not Chapter 6.Also, when using the term technicians, we are inconsistent in the use of "hazardous materials technicians" throughout

    the document, especially in the specialty chapters to eliminate confusion to the person reading a specific chapter withoutunderstanding the design of the standard. This boilerplate statement in found in multiple chapters and needs to beconsistent in style and format for each chapter where Mandating the Competencies is addressed - 6.1.3.1, 12.1.3.1,13.1.3.1, 14.1.3.1, 16.1.3.1, 17.1.3.1, 18.1.3.1, B.1.3.1, C.1.3.1, D.1.3.1.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #36

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-34Revise Chapter 16’s title to read as follows:

    Chapter 16 Competencies for the Hazardous Materials Technicians with a Flammable Liquids Bulk Storage Specialty.Revise so that title is consistent with Chapters 12-18 which address technician specialties.

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  • Report on Comments – June 2012 NFPA 472_______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #37

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-34Revise 16.1.1 Introduction to read:

    The hazardous material technician with a flammable liquids bulk storage specialty shall be that person who,in incidents involving bulk flammable liquid storage tanks and related facilities, provides support to the hazardousmaterials technician and other personnel, provides strategic and tactical recommendations to the on-scene incidentcommander, provides oversight for fire control and product removal operations, and acts as a liaison betweentechnicians, response personnel, and outside resources. For the purposes of this chapter, flammable liquid bulk storagetanks also include the related pipelines, piping, transfer pumps, additive tanks, and loading racks commonly found in aflammable liquid bulk storage tank facility.

    The hazardous materials technician with a flammable liquids bulk storage specialty shall be trained to meet allrequirements at the awareness level (Chapter 4), all core competencies at the operations level (Chapter 5), and allcompetencies at the technician level (Chapter 7), and all competencies of this chapter

    The hazardous materials technician with a flammable liquids bulk storage specialty shall receive training tomeet governmental response and occupational health and safety regulations.

    The hazardous materials technicians with a flammable liquids bulk storage specialty are expected to useappropriate personal protective clothing and specialized fire, leak, and spill control equipment.

    Revise 16.1.2.1 Goal to read:The goal of this chapter shall be to provide the hazardous materials technician with a flammable liquid bulk

    storage specialty with the knowledge and skills to perform the tasks in 16.1.2.2 safely.Revise 16.1.2.2 to read:

    In addition to being competent at the hazardous materials technician level, the hazardous materials technicianwith a flammable liquids bulk storage specialty shall be able to perform the following tasks:

    Revise 16.1.3 Mandating of CompetenciesThis standard shall not mandate that hazardous materials response teams

    performing offensive operations on flammable liquids bulk storage tanks and related facilities have hazardous materialstechnicians with a flammable liquids bulk storage specialty.

    Hazardous materials technicians operating within the bounds of their training as listed in Chapter 7 of thisstandard shall be able to respond to incidents involving flammable liquids bulk storage tanks and related facilities.

    If a hazardous materials response team desires to train some or all its hazardous materials technicians tohave in-depth knowledge of flammable liquids bulk storage tanks and related facilities, this chapter shall set out theminimum required competencies.

    Update these paragraphs to make them consistent with equivalent paragraphs in Chapters 12-18which deal with technician specialties.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #38

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-35Revise Chapter 16’s title to read as follows:

    Chapter 17 Competencies for the Hazardous Materials Technicians with a Flammable Gases Bulk Storage Specialty.Revise so that title is consistent with Chapters 12-18 which address technician specialties.

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  • Report on Comments – June 2012 NFPA 472_______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #39

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-35Revise 17.1.1 Introduction to read:

    The hazardous material technician with a flammable gases bulk storage specialty shall be that person who,in incidents involving bulk flammable gases storage tanks and related facilities, provides support to the hazardousmaterials technician and other personnel, provides strategic and tactical recommendations to the on-scene incidentcommander, provides oversight for fire control and product removal operations, and acts as a liaison betweentechnicians, response personnel, and outside resources. For the purposes of this chapter, flammable gases bulkstorage tanks also include the related pipelines, piping, transfer pumps, additive tanks, and loading racks commonlyfound in a flammable gases bulk storage tank facility.

    The hazardous materials technician with a flammable gases bulk storage specialty shall be trained to meet allrequirements at the awareness level (Chapter 4), all core competencies at the operations level (Chapter 5), and allcompetencies at the technician level (Chapter 7), and all competencies of this chapter.

    The hazardous materials technician with a flammable gases bulk storage specialty shall receive training tomeet governmental occupational health and safety regulations.

    The hazardous materials technicians with a flammable gases bulk storage specialty are expected to useappropriate personal protective clothing and specialized fire, leak, and spill control equipment.

    Revise 17.1.2.1 Goal to read:The goal of this chapter shall be to provide the hazardous materials technician with a flammable gases bulk

    storage specialty with the knowledge and skills to perform the tasks in 17.1.2.2 safely.Revise 17.1.2.2 to read:

    In addition to being competent at the hazardous materials technician level, the hazardous materials technicianwith a flammable gases bulk storage specialty shall be able to perform the following tasks:

    Revise 17.1.3 Mandating of CompetenciesThis standard shall not mandate that hazardous materials response teams

    performing offensive operations on flammable gases bulk storage tanks and related facilities have hazardous materialstechnicians with a flammable gases bulk storage specialty.

    Hazardous materials technicians operating within the bounds of their training as listed in Chapter 7 of thisstandard shall be able to respond to incidents involving flammable gases bulk storage tanks and related facilities.

    If a hazardous materials response team desires to train some or all its hazardous materials technicians tohave in-depth knowledge of flammable gases bulk storage tanks and related facilities, this chapter shall set out theminimum required competencies.

    Update these paragraphs to make them consistent with equivalent paragraphs in Chapters 12-18which deal with technician specialties.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #40

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-40Correct the typo in the title box of Chapter 18 to read “Chapter” 18, not “Annex” 18 and add the

    words “Hazardous Materials” before the word Technician for consistency with other technician based specialties.Annex Chapter 18 Competencies for the Hazardous MaterialsTechnician with a Radioactive Material Specialty

    Typo since the recommendation is to take Annex G out of the Annex section and make it Chapter 18 inthe body of the document. Adding the words “Hazardous Materials” makes the title consistent with Chapters 12-17.

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  • Report on Comments – June 2012 NFPA 472_______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #47

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Tony J. Mussorfiti, PNNL

    472-40Revise text to read as follows:

    18.1.1 Introduction. Technicians with a radioactive material specialty shall be trained to meet allcompetencies of the first responder awareness, operations, and hazardous materials technician levels and thecompetencies of this annex. The technician with a radioactive material specialty also shall receive additional training tomeet a United States Department of Transportation (DOT), United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA),Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA), ASTM E 2601 – 08 “Standard Practice for RadiologicalEmergency Response” and other applicable state, local, or provincial occupational health and safety regulatoryrequirements.

    A technician with a Radioactive Material Specialty should be knowledgeable on any standard(regulatory or consensus standards) that impacts emergency response to a radiological emergency.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #41

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Charles J. Wright, Omaha, NE

    472-40Revise 18.1.1 Introduction to read:

    The hazardous materials technician with a radioactive material specialty shall be that person who providessupport to the hazardous materials technician on the use of radiation detection instruments, manages the control ofradiation exposure, conducts hazards assessment, and acts as a liaison between hazardous materials technicians atincidents involving radioactive materials.

    The hazardous materials technician with a radioactive material specialty shall be trained to meet allcompetencies at the awareness (Chapter 4), all core competencies at the operations level (chapter 5), all competenciesat the hazardous materials technician level (Chapter 7), and the competencies of this chapter.

    The hazardous materials technician with a radioactive material specialty shall receive training to meetgovernmental occupational health and safety regulations.

    The hazardous materials technicians with a radioactive material specialty are expected to use specializedprotective clothing and survey instrumentation.

    Revise 18.1.2.1 Goal to read:The goal of this chapter shall be to provide the hazardous materials technician with a radioactive material

    specialty with the knowledge and skills to perform the tasks in 18.1.2.2 safely.Revise 18.1.2.2 to read:

    In addition to being competent at the hazardous materials technician level, the hazardous materials technicianwith a radioactive material specialty shall be able to perform the following tasks:

    Revise 18.1.3 Mandating of CompetenciesThis standard shall not mandate that hazardous materials response teams

    performing offensive operations on radioactive material incident have hazardous materials technicians with a radioactivematerial specialty.

    Hazardous materials technicians operating within the bounds of their training as listed in Chapter 7 of thisstandard shall be able to respond to incidents involving radioactive materials.

    If a hazardous materials response team elects to train some or all its hazardous materials technicians tohave in-depth knowledge of radioactive materials, this chapter shall set out the minimum required competencies.

    Update these paragraphs to make them consistent with equivalent paragraphs in Chapters 12-17which deal with technician specialties.

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  • Report on Comments – June 2012 NFPA 472_______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #46

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Tony J. Mussorfiti, PNNL

    472-40Revise text to read as follows:

    18.1.3 Goa The goal of this annex is to provide the technician with a radioactive material specialty with the knowledgeand skills to perform the following tasks safely:

    (1) Analyze a hazardous materials incident involving radioactive materials to determine the complexity of theproblem and potential outcomes.

    (3) Implement the planned response to a hazardous materials involving radioactive material.Need to include intentional events

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  • Report on Comments – June 2012 NFPA 472_______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #45

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Tony J. Mussorfiti, PNNL

    472-40Revise text to read as follows:

    Technicians with a radioactive material specialty shallhave an understanding of nuclear science and radioactivity, including the units and terms used to describe radiation andradioactive material. The technician with a radioactive material specialty shall be able to perform the following tasks:

    (1) Define the following terms:(a) Ionization(b) Nucleon(c) Nuclide(d) Isotope

    (i) Curie!(j) Becquerel!(k) Specific! Activity!(l) Half"life!(m) Exposure!(n) Absorbed! dose(o) Dose equivalent(p) Quality factor(q) Roentgen!

    ((r) Rad/gray conversion(s) Rem/sievert conversion(2) Identify the basic principles of the mass-energy equivalence concept.(3) Identify how the neutron-to-proton ratio is related to nuclear stability.(4) Define the following terms related to nuclear stability:(a) Radioactivity(b) Radioactive decay(5) Explain the characteristics of alpha, beta, gamma, and!neutron radiations

    and!the!methods!by!which!they!interact!with!matter.!(6) Explain why fission products are unstable.(6) Radiological Dispersal Device (RDD) Report No. 138(7) Radiation Exposure Device (RED) NCRP Commentary No. 19(8) Roentgen per hour (R/h)(9) Exposure rate(10) Dose

    The terms removed are not necessary for the Technician with the Radiological specialty tounderstand to complete their mission of response to a radiological emergency (accidental or intentional). Response to anuclear event is beyond the scope of this competency. The terms added bring this competency more in line with NCRP& ASTM.

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  • Report on Comments – June 2012 NFPA 472_______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #44

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Tony J. Mussorfiti, PNNL

    472-40Revise text to read as follows:

    18.2.2 (6): Identify the possible somatic and genetic effects effects of an acute and chronic exposure to radiation.So the technician understands the effects upon anyone exposed to radiation and their

    offspring

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #43

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Tony J. Mussorfiti, PNNL

    472-40Revise text to read as follows:

    Technicians with a radioactive material specialty shall have anunderstanding of radiation detector theory in order to select the correct type of radiological survey instrument at anincident involving radioactive material. The technician with a radioactive material specialtyshall be able to perform the following tasks:

    The use constant language through out the standard

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #42

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Tony J. Mussorfiti, PNNL

    472-40Revise text to read as follows:

    Technicians with a radioactive material specialty shall have anunderstanding of how radioactive material is transported and how to identify this material in an accident situation at a

    The technician with a radioactive material specialty shall be able to perform thefollowing tasks:

    The use constant language through out the standard

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #64

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Richard Hansen, National Security Technologies, LLC (NSTec)

    472-39Add the following text to this section:

    D.2.2(1)(k) Radiation Exposure Device (RED)The Radiation Exposure Device is a type of radiological WMD. The scenario in D.4.2(1) is a Radiation

    Exposure Device. The responder assigned radiological agent-specific tasks should be familiar with the term RadiationExposure Device (RED). References for this term include: United States Department of Energy (DOE), Safeguards andSecurity Program References, and DOE, DHS, and United States Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC), JointDOE/DHS/NRC Classification Guide for Radiological Dispersal Devices and Radiation Exposure Devices.

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  • Report on Comments – June 2012 NFPA 472_______________________________________________________________________________________________472- Log #63

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Richard Hansen, National Security Technologies, LLC (NSTec)

    472-39Revise text to read as follows:

    D.4.2(1) Given a simulated incident involving an RED or the concealment of a radioactive material source in a publicarea, describe the procedures for the following:

    The Radiation Exposure Device is a type of radiological WMD. The scenario in D.4.2(1) is a RadiationExposure Device. The responder assigned radiological agent-specific tasks should be familiar with the term RadiationExposure Device (RED). References for this term include: United States Department of Energy (DOE), Safeguards andSecurity Program References, and DOE, DHS, and United States Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC), JointDOE/DHS/NRC Classification Guide for Radiological Dispersal Devices and Radiation Exposure Devices

    25Printed on 9/22/2011

  • Report on Comments – June 2012 NFPA 473_______________________________________________________________________________________________473- Log #19

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Tony J. Mussorfiti, PNNL

    473-4Revise text to read as follows:

    3.3.11.1 Emergency Medical Services Responders to Hazardous Materials/Weapon of Mass Destruction at the BLSLevel (BLS Level Responder). In addition to their BLS certification, the operations level responder who is assignedmission-specific responsibilities at hazardous materials/WMD incidents shall be trained to meet all competencies at theawareness level (Chapter 4), all core competencies at the operations level (Chapter 5), and all competencies for theassigned responsibilities in shall be trained to meet at least the core competencies of the operations level responders asdefined in NFPA 472, Standard for Competence of Responders to Hazardous Materials/Weapons of Mass DestructionIncidents, and all competencies of Chapter 4 of this standard.

    Reason: To use constant language through out NFPA 472 & 473 standard.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________473- Log #18

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Tony J. Mussorfiti, PNNL

    473-7Revise text to read as follows:

    3.3.11.2 Emergency Medical Services Responders to Hazardous Materials/Weapon of Mass Destruction at the ALSLevel (ALS Level Responder). In addition to their ALS certification, the operations level responder who is assignedmission-specific responsibilities at hazardous materials/WMD incidents shall be trained to meet all competencies at theawareness level (Chapter 4), all core competencies at the operations level (Chapter 5), and all competencies for theassigned responsibilities in shall be trained to meet at least the core competencies of the operations level responders asdefined in NFPA 472, Standard for Competence of Responders to Hazardous Materials/Weapons of Mass DestructionIncidents, and all competencies of Chapter 5 of this standard.

    Reason: To use constant language through out NFPA 472 & 473 standard.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________473- Log #1

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Tony J. Mussorfiti, PNNL

    473-2Revise text to read as follows:

    4.2.1.1 Given examples of the following types of containers, the BLS level responder shall identify the potentialmechanisms of injury/harm identify the type of mechanical harm and possible treatment modalities:

    (1) Pressure(2) Nonpressure(3) Cryogenic(4) Radioactive

    Reason: the type of container does not matter. For example any type of container can BLEVE causingmechanical harm (I.e. blast pressure, fragmentation).

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  • Report on Comments – June 2012 NFPA 473_______________________________________________________________________________________________473- Log #17

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Tony J. Mussorfiti, PNNL

    473-5Revise text to read as follows:

    4.2.1.2 Given examples of the nine U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) hazard classes, the BLS level respondershall identify possible treatment modalities associated with each hazard class. shall ID possible types of injuries /illnesses and possible pre-hospital treatment modalities associated with each hazard class.

    Reason: The responder first needs to identify the harm and then the appropriate pre-hospital care.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________473- Log #16

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Tony J. Mussorfiti, PNNL

    473-5Revise text to read as follows:

    4.2.1.3 Given examples of various a scenario involving hazardous materials/WMD incidents at fixed facilities, the BLSlevel responder shall identify the following available health-related resource personnel:

    (1) Environmental health and Safety Representatives(2) Radiation Safety Officers (RSO)(3) Occupational Physicians and Nurses(4) Site emergency Response Teams(5) Product or Container Specialists

    Reason: The responder needs to be able to identify the health related at any incident, not just at afixed facility.

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________473- Log #15

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________Tony J. Mussorfiti, PNNL

    473-5Delete the following text:

    4.2.1.4 Given various scenarios of hazardous materials/WMD incidents, the BLS level responder, working within anincident command system, shall evaluate the off-site consequences of the release based on the physical and chemicalnature of the released substance and the prevailing environmental factors, to determine the need to evacuate or toshelter in place affected persons.

    Reason: They are already trained to the Ops Core Level (NFPA 472 5.1.2.2)

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  • Report on Comments – June 2012 NFPA 473_______________________________________________________________________________________________473- Log #14

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