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SPI 226Defeating the “Curse of Knowledge” and How Jason Brown Built His Successful Online BusinessAugust 10, 2016
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Pat: ThisistheSmartPassiveIncomepodcastwithPatFlynn,session
number226.Let’smakeithappen.
Announcer: WelcometotheSmartPassiveIncomepodcast,whereit’sall
aboutworkinghardnow,soyoucansitbackandreapthebenefits
later,andnowyourhost.Hesingskidsongsontheukuleletohis
children-PatFlynn.
Pat: What’supeverybody,PatFlynnhere,thankyousomuchforjoining
metoday.Superstokedbecausewe’regoingtobesharinganother
successstoryfromsomebodywhohadlistenedtoSPI,tookaction,
andfoundsuccess.ThisisJasonBrownfromthebrownreport.com.
Specificallywe’regoingtotalkalotabouthowhe’sbeenableto,
whatIliketocalldefeatthecurseofknowledge.
ThecurseofknowledgeisthisthingIlearnedaboutwhenIread
ChipandDanHeath’sbookMadeToStick,Ihighlyrecommendthat
book,andinthisbooktheytalkaboutthisconceptthatiswhen
youlearnsomething,oryouknowsomething,it’sverydifficultand
almostimpossiblesometimestoknowwhatit’sliketonotknowthat
thing.Thisisabigstruggleforthoseusonlinewhoareteaching,
whohavecourses,whoarebuildingafollowing,becauseifwe’re
teachingandwedon’tunderstandwhatit’slikeontheotherend,
assomebodywhodoesnotknowthatthingthatwe’reteaching,
welloftentimeswecanspeakinanoverwhelmingmanner.Wecan
speakintermsthatdon’tmakesense.Wecanjustmakepeoplefeel
badsometimes,andwedon’twanttodothat.
Jason’sbeendoinganamazingjob,takenwhathe’slearnedhere
onSPIbutreallybeingabletopenetrateanichethathasbeenvery
saturatedovertheyears,andwhenherevealswhatthatis,you’ll
seewhatI’mtalkingabout.He’sbeenabletocomeinandbethat
voiceforthebeginnersoutthere,andIthinkalotofuscanbenefit
fromalotofwhatMr.Brownhastosayhere.
Thebrownreport.comishiswebsite,nowbeforewegettothe
interview,Ijustwanttothanktoday’ssponsor,whichis99designs.
com.99designs.comiswhereyoucangotogetsomegraphic
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designdoneforyouandyourbusiness.Irecentlyranacontest
actuallynottoolongagowhereIhadthemtakeanoldblogpost
ofmine,andrepurposeitintoaninfographic.Infographicsare
agreatwaytogainadditionalexposureonline,andIfoundthe
processextremelyeasy,andIwasgivenabout10-12different
completeinfographicstochoosefrom.That’sthecoolthingabout
99Designs.Youputwhatyou’relookingforonthere,andseveral
designersfromaroundtheworldaregoingtocompeteforyour
favoritedesign.
IactuallyaskedpeopleonTwitterwhichonetheylikedbest.I
pickedmytopthree,andtheytoldmewhichonewasbest,so
that’showIwasabletoselecttheonethatwasgoingtobemost
useful.Theywereallgreat,andIlove99designs.comforthoseof
uswhoarejuststartingout.Ifeellikeifyoucan’tyetaffordthatone
designerwho’sgoingtobeonyourteamforgood,99Designsis
averyeconomicalwaytogetthosedesignsdonethatyouneed
quitequickly.Sevendayturnaround,ifyoudon’tlikethedesigns
thatcomein,youcangetyourmoneyback,andit’sjustveryvery
streamlined,Iloveit.Checkitout,99designs.com/SPI,that’llgive
you$99towardyournextdesignproject.Againthat’s99designs.
com/SPI.
Allright,thankssomuch,andlet’sgettotoday’sinterviewwith
JasonBrownagainfromthebrownreport.com,herewego.
Jason,what’sup?Welcometotheshow,thankyousomuchfor
beinghere.
Jason: Hey,gladtobehere,Pat,really.
Pat: Jason,tellmeabout,whatisitthatyoudo?Ifsomebodyweretoask
youonthestreet,“HeyJason,whatdoyoudoforaliving?”What
wouldyousay.
Jason: Irunastockmarketeducationwebsite,orcompany.Weteach
peoplehowtotradeonline.Taketheirownmoneyandgetstarted
investinginthemarket.
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Pat: Haveyoualwaysbeensortofastocktrader,andintothatkindofworld?
Jason: Yeah,soinabout2002,2003Iwasthreeandahalf,fouryearsinto
mycollegedegreehereatWayneStatehereinDetroit,Michigan.
Iwasgoingforengineering,andIwasworkingatSprintPCSpart
time.Iwasjusttryingtofigureouthowtomake$50soIdidn’thave
toworkontheweekend.Numbersjustmadesensetome,Imade
$8anhour,$64ashift,whenyoutaketaxesoutthat’sabout$50.
Iwaslike,“Man,ifIcouldawaytomake$50,thenIdon’thaveto
workSaturdaysanymore.”Atthattime,Sprintstockwaslike$5,
andIhad$500.Ihadboughtlike100shares,andIwaslike,ifitjust
moves50cents,Icouldmake$50.Justtofastforward,Iendedup
makingthe$50,andIendedupturning,boughta$10,000student
loanintoasixfiguretradingaccount.Iwas22yearsold,nocollege
degree,andjusthadmademoremoneythananybodyinmyfamily
atthatpoint,andIknewIhadfoundmyniche,mycalling.
Imadealotofmoney,lostalotofmoney,andfastforward,asIgot
backintotradingafterlosingmoneyandmakingitback,Iwaspart
ofsomeoneelse’smembershipwebsite.Iwaspayingamonthly
subscription,andIthought,“Iwonderwhatpeoplewouldpayme
tobeabletolearnaboutmytrades.”Istartedbloggingaboutmy
trades,becauseIwasmakingmoney,andpeoplestartedmaking
moneyoffmytrades.Iwaslike,“Well,howcomeIdon’thavea
membershipsite?”That’swhatledmeintothewholesearchof
onlinemarketing,andhowtocreateamembershipsite.Really,led
metofindingyouandalotofyourtutorialsaboutWordpressand
BlueHost,andallthosethings.
Pat: Whendidyoumaketheshiftintotheonlineworld?Whatyearwas
that?
Jason: Itwasaboutthreeyearsago.
Pat: Okay,soabout2013kindof?Atthatpoint,youhadsaidthatyou
weredoingstockmarketstuff,andobviouslyit’sveryvolatile.What
madeyoufeellikethiswasgoingtobeasuccessforyou?Ithink
alotofpeoplehavegoneintothestockmarket,andIfeellikefor
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someit’sagamble.Whatmakesyoursdifferentthanagamble?
Jason: That’sagreatquestion,andIknowmostpeopledofeellikeit’s
gambling,it’sgambling,right.ThebestwayIcanexplainit,Iliketo
usethisexample,Pat.IfyouwatchTV,orifyou’veeverbeeninthe
hospitalandyouseesomeonehookeduptooneofthosemonitors.
Letmeaskyou,ifthatline’sblinkingupanddown,ifitgoesflat,
whathappenstotheperson?
Pat: Well,they’redead.
Jason: They’redead,right?Thenifitcomesbackandit’sbeatingandit’s
blinkinghigh,thenthat’sgoodnews,right?Thatmeansthey’re
doingokay.ThewayIliketoexplainitis,thestockmarketgivesoff
signalsthatshowswhenastockorthemarketisflatlining,whena
stockisabouttodiesotospeak,orselloff,orfall.Thenitalsogives
offsignalswhenthestock’sheartisbeatinggoodandpositiveand
doinggreat.Thosesignalscanactuallybereadonastockchart,
andthat’swhatmakesitnotgambling.Itnowturnsintopattern
recognition,andmoreprobabilityandstatistics.Ialwayssay,you
didn’thavetogotonursingschoolorbecomeadoctor,youknewit
rightoffthebatifthatlineflatlined,thatthepersonwasdead,and
ifit’sbeating,ifit’sblinkingupanddown,thenthey’redoinggood.
Samethingwiththestockmarket.Youdon’thavetobesupersmart
orgotoschoolforit.Ifyoulearnhowtoreadthepattern,thenyou
canlearnhowtofindthemoney.
Pat: Right,andyouknowI’minvolvedinthestockmarketalittlebit.
We’renotheretotalkaboutstocks,orconvinceanybodythatthey
should,we’reheretotalkabouthowyoubuiltyourbusiness.Iwant
togobacktowhenyoustartedtoblogaboutwhatyouweredoing.
Iknowthere’salotofpeopleouttherewhotalkaboutstockmarket,
tryingtogamethesystem,orlearnabouttheseheartbeatslikeyou
weretalkingabout.Howwereyouabletostandoutwhenyoufirst
gotinthisspace?Howwereyouabletoactuallygetnoticedwhen
youfirststartedout?
Jason: WhenIfirstlookedattheindustry,whatIfoundwasalotofpeople
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weretryingtobesmartaboutit,orreallyexplainitinawaythat
madethemlooksmart,anditreallyendedupmakingpeople
confusing.Ijustsaid,howcomepeopledon’tjustexplainitin
laymanterms,justtellyoublackandwhitewhatthismeans,and
whatitmeansforyou.I’vebeenabletostandoutjustbykeepingit
simple,andexplainingithowIneededtohearitwhenIfirststarted
learningaboutit.Whenyouputthatoutonline,Igetalotofpeople
thatsaywow,thiswasthefirsttimethatIhearditthatitactually
madesensetome.I’velistenedtoXamountofotherpeople.
Keepingitreallysimple,andexplainingitinlaymantermsisreally
whatmakesmestandoutonline.
Pat: Ilikethat,that’ssomethingIfeelismysuperpoweraswell,taking
thesereallycomplicatedthings,breakingthemdown,makingthem
easyforpeopletounderstand.Doyoufeellikethat’ssomething
thatcanbelearned,oristhatsomethingthatyou’resortofborn
with?Theabilitytoteachsomebodysomethinginawaythatthey’re
moreeasilytorespondto?
Jason: Ithinkit’ssomethingthatcanbelearnedifyoudon’tgettoofull
ofyourself.Ifyoudon’tassumepeopleknowwhatyou’retalking
about,assumetheyknowcertaindefinitions,youdon’ttalkyour
ownindustryjargon.Actlikeyou’retalkingtoyourchild,orakid.
Youwouldbreakitdowntothemostsimplisticterms,sothattome
letsmeknowthatitisalearnedbehavior,youdon’tnecessarily
havetobebornwithit.It’sjustamatterofrecognizingyour
audience,andnotassumingthattheyknoweverything,orthatthey
knowthejargonthatyou’retalking.
Pat: Right,right,andwecallthatthecurseofknowledge.Whenyou
knowsomething,it’sactuallyreallyhardtoknowwhatit’sliketonot
knowitanymore,whichiswhyit’sachallengetoteachpeoplestuff.
Especiallytheonlinespace.Tryingtoalwaysputyourselfintheshoes
ofyouraudienceisareallyimportantthingtodo,thisistalkedabout
inChipandDanHeath’sbookcalledMadeToStick,thiscurseof
knowledge.Ifeel,anditseemslikeyoudotooJason,wehavethis
superpowerofjustdeflectingthatcurseofknowledgeandreally
beingabletoteachouraudiencestuffataverysimplisticlevel.
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Iknow,frommyownexperience,whenI’vebeenabletodothis,
someotherpeopleintheonlinemarketingspacehavetoldmethat
Ieithera)amdumbingthingsdown,orb)justamnotverysmart
becauseofthewayIteachit.Haveyougottenanyofthatfrom
peopleinthesamespace,who,likeyousaidearlier,weretalking
liketheywerethesmartestguys,ormaybedoingallthesereally
complicatedthings.Maybetheyaresmart,I’msuretheyare,butdo
theylookatyou,andarelike“Thisguydoesn’tevenbelonghere.”
Jason: Youknow,Idon’tknow.Ireallydon’tgetalotoffeedbackfrom
othertraders.Wedon’t,Iguesswedon’treallycritiqueorwatch
eachother’sstuffthatmuch.Ithinkthebigpictureis,arepeople
learning?Arethecommentsonyourvideos,theemailsyou’re
getting,aretheysayingthatthey’reveryhelpful?Ohmygod,untilI
metyou,Ididn’tthinkIcoulddothis,thattypeofstuff.Whenyou’re
getting,andI’msureyougetthosetypeofemails,Iwasoneof
thosepeopleemailingyou,gobackthroughsomeofyouremails,
right.Whenyougetthosetypeofemails,itdoesn’tmatterwhatthe
other“experts”say,you’resatisfyinganeedandanichethatneeds
ittobesimplified.Ijustlovebreakingitdown.
Infact,ifIcouldsharejustaquickstory,Ihadamembershipsite
before,andInevergotitover$500amonth.Whenpeoplewould
cancel,wewouldemailthem,andwhenIsaywe,me,myself,Iwas
theassistant,Iwaseverything,butItalkinthirdperson.Iwould
emailthemandsay,“Why’dyoucancel?”Peoplewouldsay,thisis
tooadvanced,it’skindofovermyhead.Infact,Iwaslike,“Well,I
don’twanttoteachthebasicstuff,I’manoptionstrader,I’mhere
fortheadvancedpeople.”Thenafterthelastpersoncancelledone
day,anditwentfrom$500to0,Iwaslike,I’mgoingtogivethese
peoplewhattheywant.I’mgoingtocreatethemostbasiccourse,
andI’mgoingtogiveittothem.That’swhatchangedmylife.
WhatIthoughtwassimple,and“Oheverybodyknowshowtoopen
atradingaccountonline,”that’soneofmytopvideos.Ifoundonce
Igotoutofmyownway,puttheegoaside,thenworryaboutwhat
Iwantedtoteachorwhateverybodyelsewasteaching,butwhat
peoplereallyneeded.Nomatterhowsophisticatedorsimpleitwas,
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thatwasthebestforme,andthat’swhenpeoplestartedtofind
meorganically.Iwasdoingthesimplevideosthatnooneelsewas
doing.
Pat: Okay,yousaidvideosisonewaythatpeoplearefindingyou.Is
Youtubeyourprimarychannelforexposurerightnow?Whatelsedo
youhave?
Jason: Youtubeismynumberonetrafficgenerator,andFacebookwould
bemynumbertwo.
Pat: FacebookintermsofdoyouhaveaFacebookpage,orareyou
payingforadvertising?Howisthatworking?
Jason: Facebookads.IhaveaFacebookpage,butalotofFacebookadsI
run.
Pat: Takeusthroughtheprocess.IfI’monFacebook,andIseeyourad,
whatdoesthatadsay,wheredoIgoafterIclick?Walkmethrough
thatfunnel.
Jason: Sure.MaybeyoufindmeonYoutube,maybeyoufindmethrough
organicsearch.Ifyouobviouslycometothepage,we’regoingto
beabletoserveyousomeads,sayhey,youmightwanttocheck
outthisvideo,youmightwanttocheckoutthiswebinar.Then
juststraightmadeuptoFacebook,meaningyoudidn’tfindme
anywhereelse,I’mrunningFacebookvideoadsjustsharingwith
peoplethatcomeregisterforwebinars,spendabout45minutes
withme.I’mgoingtotakeacomplicatedsubjectandmakeitsimple.
It’smeinthevideo,theyregisterforthewebinar,andIjustserveup
great,freecontentonthewebinar.There’snoholdingback.Then
attheend,Iletthemknow,ifyouwanttolearnmore,here’sthe
courseandhere’swhatyouget.
Pat: Haveyou,orareyoudoingthoseFacebookadsyourself,ordoyou
havesomebodyhelpingyouonthat?
Jason: I’mactuallydoingthemmyself.
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Pat: Whatwasitlikewhenyoufirststarted?Iknowthatitcangetvery
overwhelming.There’salotofoptionsthattheFacebookpower
editor,andalltheseotheradtools.There’ssomanyoptions.How
doyouevengetstartedwithsomethinglikethat?
Jason: Thepowereditorwasinitiallywaslikeanightmare,itwasreally
toughtouse.Facebookhascomealongwaytowhereit’sreally
simple.Youjustuploadthevideo,youputyourtext,yourcomments,
almostlikeablogpost,ashortenedblogpost.Thenthetargetingis
solaserfocused,you’vegotsomanywaysyoucango,Ijustkindof
mapoutwhowouldbemyidealaudience,who’slookingforsimilar
contentonline,orfollowingsimilarpeople,orjustlookingforthe
keywordstockmarket,orsomethinglikethat.ThenIjusttarget
people.Ididtakeacoupleofonlinecoursesinit,butforthemost
partonceyougetinthere,andyoukindofunderstandthepower
editor,whichasmanysoftwareupgradesthey’vedone,it’sreally
simpletousenow.
Pat: Inthevideothatyouserveintheadvertisement,whatareyou
sayinginthat?Areyoutalking,Imeanobviouslyyou’resaying
comejoinmeonthewebinar,butisthereanythingeducationalin
there,too?
Jason: No,prettymuchwhatIjustsaid.It’sjustmesaying“Hey,it’sanew
year,andit’stimetolearnaboutthestockmarketandwhatitcould
doforyouandyourfamily.Iknowitseemslikeaconfusingsubject,
butit’showIwasabletocreatesomewealth,andhowWarren
Buffettandotherscreatedwealth.Ifyouthinkit’sconfusing,come
spend30-45minuteswithme,Ipromiseit’sgoingtobeworthyour
time.I’mgoingtosharehowtogetstartedinthestockmarket,
thesecretsofhowtogrowasmallbankaccountwithnotalotof
money.”ItellthemthefourthingsI’mgoingtoteachthem,andI
sayhey,Ipromiseit’sgoingtobeworthyourtimeandafterwards,
comebackandletmeknowwhatyoulikebestaboutthewebinar,
clickthelinkinthedescription,andI’llseeyouontheotherside.It’s
reallythatstraightforward.
Pat: There’salinkinthere,andthattakesmetoalandingpageI
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assume?
Jason: Yougotit,webinarregistrationpage.
Pat: Whatareyouusingtoserveupthatlandingpage?
Jason: OptimizePress.
Pat: Okay,OptimizePress,great.There’salotofotheroptionsobviously
forthat.Thenthereare,sothewebinarsoftware,whatareyou
usingforwebinars?
Jason: IfoundGoToWebinartobethebest.Itriedalotoftheotherones,
andtriedtosavesomemoneyondifferentwebinarsoftwares,butI
reallyfoundGoToWebinartobethebestformylivewebinars.Then
formyevergreenwebinars,EverWebinar.
Pat: EverWebinar.Telluswhatyoumeanbyevergreenwebinarsand
howareyouusingthem?
Jason: Right,greatquestion,becausewemightbetalkingoversome
people’sheadrightnow.
Pat: Yeah,Iwanttomakesuretogeteverybodycaughtup.
Jason: Greatquestion.Iwasdoing,Istilldolivewebinars,whichiswhen
IuseGoToWebinar,whichisreallymelive,realtime,doingthe
webinar.
Pat: Howoftendoyoudothose?I’msorry.
Jason: HowlongdoIdothose?
Pat: Howoftendoyoudotheliveones?
Jason: NowIdothem,Idoalotofwebinars,everyweekformymembers.
Asfarasforpromotingaproduct,Ionlydoitwhenanewproductis
comingit.
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Pat: Gotcha,okay.
Jason: WhenIhaveanewcoursecomingout.Currently,everythingis
runningonevergreen,whichmeansit’sawebinarthat’stimeless,
it’sdateless,theinformationjuststaysrelevant.Wheneverthey
registerfromtheFacebookad,andcomewatchthewebinar,
it’salwaysrelevant.There’snodatesortimes,anythinglikethat
mentionedinit,andtheinformationnevergetsold.Theyregister
forthatwebinar,andit’sasystemthatautoplaysthewebinar,allows
themtoleavecommentsinthere.Thecommentswillcomestraight
tomyselformyassistant,andthenwecanreplyrightfromourcell
phone,orwritefromemail,justincasetheyhadanyquestions.
Pat: Gotcha,soifIseeanadofyoursonFacebookforexample,andI
registerforthewebinar.Thatwouldinitiallyanevergreenwebinar,
right,becauseyou’vealreadyrecordedthat,that’stheonethatI
wouldbeserved,right?
Jason: Correct.
Pat: HowmuchlongerafterIregisterwillIseethat?Arethereany
emailsthatgoout,thatsortofsay,heyyourwebinariscomingupin
threedays,ordoIgetaccesstoitimmediately?
Jason: Itdependsonwhattimeyoupick.Werunthemthreetimesaday,
usuallyIbelieveit’steno’clock,oneo’clockandseveno’clockor
eighto’clock.
Pat: SowhenIregisterIcanpickatimethatworksforme?
Jason: Yougotit,soyoucanpickatimethatworksforyou.Werecently
justenabledJustinTimewebinars,andI’vefoundwegetthe
highestopt-inandattendancerateforthejustintime,whichmeans
thewebinarstartsinabout15minutesfromthetimeyouclickon
andcheckwhattimesyoustart.
Pat: That’sgoingtobeadifferenttimeforeverybodyafterthey
subscribe,right?It’sstilltimedafterwards,right?
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Jason: Yougotit.
Pat: Wow,veryinteresting.That’satool,whatwasthattooltobeableto
servethoseinthatway?
Jason: EverWebinariswhatIuseforthatone.
Pat: Howdoyouspellthat?
Jason: EverWebinar.
Pat: EverWebinar,okaycool,I’llhavetocheckthatout.Iknowthere’s
alotofotherevergreenwebinarsoftwaresoutthere.Itseemsto
bethethingthatalotofpeopleareusingtoautomatetheprocess
now.Alotofpeopleusedtodotheselivepromotionalvideosthat
thensellthemembershipsiteeveryweek,sometimesmultiple
timesaday,anditwouldjustburnthemout,becauseit’sjustalot
ofworktodothesethings.Ifyoudoawebinarandit’sgreat,you
mightaswelluseitoverandoveragain.
Jason: Yeah,andthenwhenyoureallythinkaboutit,ifyou’redoinga
webinaronacertainproduct,it’snotlikeyou’rechangingwhat
you’resayingeverynightorthreetimesaday,soitjustmakes
sensethatyouputitonautopilot.You’renotreallycheatingthe
audienceoranything.Inevertrytomakeitseemlikeit’slive.I
wouldsaythesamething,whenIwasdoingthemlive,Iwouldsay
thesamethingnightafternight,threetimesaday,anyway.Itjust
madesense.Howdoyouservetheaudiencetowheretheycan
registerforthetimethat’sbestforthem,andtheystillgetthesame
messagethatyouweregoingtodeliverlive,anyway.
Pat: Gotit,okayperfect.I’mwatchingyourwebinar,you’redelivering
highvaluecontent.Howdoyouknowwhattosay?Isitjustyour
kindofmostpopular,basicstuff?Yousaidearlierthatyou’rekindof
givingitallaway,right?
Jason: Right,kindofgivingitall.There’salwaysanotherleveltogodeep.
Ilearnedthisfromyou.Thatis,giveawaysomeofyourbeststuff
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forfree,becausewhenpeoplehearit,andtheyrealize,ifthisis
whatthey’regettingforfree,thenthepaidstuffmustbethatmuch
nextlevel.Thefreestuffisgreat,it’sgood,butthenthepaidstuff
is,wetakethem2-3levelsdeeper,reallygetgranular,reallyget
verydetailed.Thewebinar,onceyouoptintomyemaillist,and
differentthingslikethatovertime,Iusuallyaskthemaquestionlike
“What’syourbiggestfrustrationwiththemarket?”Oneofmyemail
autoresponderssay,what’stheoneortwothingsthatifIcouldhelp
youwiththestockmarket,helpyouunderstanditbetter,takeyour
tradetothenextlevel,whatwouldthoseoneortwothingsbe?
Overtime,everyonejustrepliesandyoukindofgetthisbucketof
thingsthatit’sthetoptwoorthreestumblingblocksforpeople.I
justbuiltthewebinararoundit,saying,muchlikeyou,somepeople
thinkit’sgambling.Soyou’llgetthatback,“Iheardit’sgambling,
butthat’swherewealthiscreated,soitcan’tbegamblingfor
everybody.”It’slikeokay,howdoIdebunkthemythofgambling.
Mostpeoplewillwritebackandsay,“IheardIthinkIneedalotof
money,”soI’mlike,nottrue.Ibuiltthewebinararoundhowdoyou
getstarted,howdoyouopenanaccount,doyoureallyneedalot
ofmoney?Doyouhavetobesmart?Ijusttakeallthoseanswers,
andletmecreateawebinarthatdebunksthemyths,shareswith
themhowitreallyworks,andthengivethemanoptiontolearn
moreandgetdeeperwithme.
Pat: Loveit,Ilovethat.You’redebunking,you’reprettymuchsaying
whatthey’realreadythinking,andgivingthemtherightanswer.It’s
notanythingtheyhavetoworryaboutanymore,Ilovethat.You’re
notguessing,it’sexactlywhatyoushouldbedoing,becauseit’s
comingdirectlyfromthemouthsofyourpotentialcustomers,which
isfantastic.
Jason: Absolutely.
Pat: I’mwatchingit,it’sagreatvalue,it’sallthequestionsthatIhadin
myheadthatyou’reansweringalreadyforme.I’mlike,lovingyou
rightnow.That’showyoustarttobuildthisrelationshipwithpeople
ratherquickly.Youstarttoanswerthequestionsthatarealreadyin
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theirhead.I’mintoyouandwhatyou’reteaching,tellmeaboutyour
pitch.Howdoyoupitchyourmembershipsitefromthewebinar?
Jason: Fromthewebinar,firstisthecourse,soIdon’tactuallypitchthe
membershipsite.Youactuallyhavetoapplytobeapartofthe
membershipcommunity,becauseIwanttomakesurewehavethe
rightpeopleinthere.
Pat: Okay,soyouhavemultipleofferings,andthiswebinarisforthe
course.
Jason: Yes,oneofmycourses,whichisthebeginnercourse,whichI
callfoundations.Igothroughthewholewebinar,debunkthetop
fourmyths,howtogetstarted,whatwejusttalkedabout.ThenI
showedthemwhatIjusttalkedaboutwiththeheartbeat,Ishow
themexamplesofrealstockcharts.It’snotlike,well,buythecourse
andI’llshowyouhowitreallyworks.Ishowthemarealstockchart,
andIgothroughhowtoreadit.Then,whenIgettotheend,Ishow
here’swhatwe’regoingtogothroughdeeperinthecourseifyou’re
interested.Thenhere’sthebonuses,andoneofthebonusesisalso
yougettobepartofourprivateFacebookgroupwhereyougetto
networkwithothertraders,becausethat’soneofthemyths,orone
ofthethingsthatpeopleemailedback,“Iwanttogetstartedbut
mymotherthinksI’mcrazy,mybrotherthinksitdoesn’twork,my
wife,peopleatworksayI’mcrazy.”I’mlike,wellhere’sacommunity
whereyoucanbepartofothercrazypeoplethatitisworkingfor,
andyouwanttocometousandgetyourquestionsanswered.
SomepeoplejoinjustfortheFacebookgroup,somepeople
obviouslyjoinfortheinformationandtheFacebookgroup.That’s
mycallofaction,mycallofactionisifyou’vebeenlookingaround
thewebandyouhaven’tfoundwhatyou’relookingfor,andyou
likehowIexplainit,whywouldyougoanywhereelse?Thisisthe
courseforyou.IfyoulikedhowIexplaineditinthelast45minutes,
it’snotgoingtogetanyworseinthecourse,it’sgoingtogetbetter.
Iliterallysaythatinthewebinar,Itellthemthatmypricepoint
comparedtothecompetition.Ididtheresearch,mypricepointis
reallyreasonable.It’s$97andIhearallthetime,youcouldcharge
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more,youcouldraiseyourprice,butitdefeatsmypurpose.My
purposeistogettheinformationoutthereintothehandsofthe
masses,andoneofthethingsthatstopsthemassesfromgetting
thisinformation,iseverybodywantstoputa$3,000$4,000price
tagonit.
Isaythatonthewebinar,it’s$97,ifyoucan’tput$97toinvestand
learninthisindustry,you’renotgoingtobesuccessfulanyway.
AnotherthingIthinkthatseparatesmeorthatIsayonthewebinar
is,Iofferamoneybackguarantee.Itwas60days,wereducedit
downto30days,itmaygodownto14,butrightnow,atleastat
thetimeofthisrecording,Igivea30daymoneybackguarantee.
IfeelsoconfidentinwhatI’mteachingthatyouwillbeabetteror
differentpersonasfarasunderstandingthestockmarketwhen
we’redone,thatIcangiveyoua30daymoneybackguarantee
becauseIwanttoshowyouthatthisisn’tjustaboutgettingyour
$97,Iwantpeoplewhoreallywanttolearnthis,andIfeelthat
confidentaboutwhatI’mteachingandhowI’mteachingit.
Pat: Nice.Canyougiveanyinsightintohowwellthecourseisdoingforus?
Jason: Yeah,sowe’resellingabout200-250coursesamonth,andthat’s
beengoingforabout,gosh.It’sbeenrunningforaboutagoodeight
monthswe’vebeendoingthat.I’mputtingupsomeprettydecent
numbers.
Pat: ThosearereallygoodnumbersJason,congratulations,that’s
awesome.Didyouthinkthatitcouldever...Fromwhatyou
explained,obviouslyIdon’twanttosayit’seasy,becauseitdoes
requirealotofworkobviously.Hopefully,Ifeellikeyou’vedone
agoodjob,andlikeyousaid,it’soneofyoursuperpowers,of
breakingthingsdownreallyeasilyforpeople.Ithinkalotofpeople
aregoingtolistentothisandbelike,“Wow,that’sactuallynotas
hardasImaybethoughtitwasgoingtobe,”andhereyouaredoing
extremelywell.
Lookingbackatwhenyoufirststarted,whatwereyourfeelings
whenyouwerefirststartinggettingintothis,intotheadsandthe
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webinars.Wereyoualwaysconfidentinhowyouwereselling?
Iknowthat’sabigpartofit.Didyoukindofworryaboutthe
webinars,orsellingandyouknow,basedonyourbackground,this
isn’treallysomethingyounecessarilywenttoschoolfor,buthere
youaresellingacourseonit.Speakonthatifyoucan.
Jason: Yeah,IfeltlikeIpickedupawholesecondskillbecauseIbuilt
mywholewebsitebymyself.IrememberwhenIfirstgotstarted,I
waslike,wellhowdoIbuildamembershipwebsite?Istartedjust
YoutubeandGooglingaround,that’showIcameacrossoneof
yourWordpressandBluehosttutorials,andIwaslikeokay,whois
thisguy?That’showIactuallyfirstlearnedaboutyou.Iwatched
allthefreestuffIcouldpossiblywatch.IknowyougotsomeBlue
Hostaffiliateloveoffofme,becauseIsignedupthroughyour
affiliatelink.IsignedupwiththewholeBluehostthing,andcreated
aWordpresssite.ThenIwaslike,howdoImakeitamembership
site?Istartedaskingpeople,I’dpay,I’dbewillingtopay,and
nobodyknewhowtocreateamembershipsite.Everybody’s
like,Icanbuildyouawebsite,butnobodyknewhowtodoa
membership.Likeiftheypay,theygetaccess.Iftheydon’tpay,it
kicksthemout.Nobodyknewhowtodoit,soIjustwenttotheweb
andfigureditoutmyself.
IboughtWishlistMember,IboughtDigitalAccessPass,Ibought
themboth,andIwaslikewhicheveronedon’tworkthebest,I’m
returningtheotherone.
Pat: Whichoneareyouusing?
Jason: I’musingWishlistMembertothisday.ThenIdidthat,andthenI
waslike,butnowmywebsitelooksugly.HowdoIgetthesesweet
squeezepagesandallthisstuff?Iwentback,I’mGoogling,like
whatdoesPatuse,whatdopeopleuse?Iboughtsomeplugin
tocreatepages,anditwasahorribleplugin.ThenIcameacross
OptimizePress,soIboughtOptimizePress.Ijustkeptleveling
up,andthenthat’swhenIhadthe$500thingthatitwaslike
$39.99amonth,Inevermademorethan$500.Aftereverybody
hadcanceled,Ihitkindofmydarkpoint,andIwaslike“Man,this
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stuffdoesn’twork.”That’swhenIheardyourpodcastepisodewith
coach,ex-coachShaneandJocelynSams.Iwaslike,“Manthatguy
islikeme.”Ihadjustshutmysitedown,Iwasdepressed,I’mlike,
mylastfewmemberscancelledandIjustrefundedthelasttwo
becauseIwasjustsickofit.
Iheardhisepisodeabouthowhecreatedhiscourseandwas
sellinghiscoachingcourse,andIwaslike,that’sit!Mybeginners
coursethateverybodykeptaskingfor.Ijustwentbacktothe
drawingboard,Idrewupthewholecourse,recordedit.WhatIdid
was,IpostedamockversiononUdemyandIhadlikeover500
peopleenroll.Itwaslikeahorriblecourse,pooraudio,everything,
andpeoplewereleavingcommentslike“Ican’tbelievethisisa
course,Ican’tbelieve,thisishorrible.”Ididn’tgetdiscouraged.
Iwaslike,wellthat’snottherealcourse,Ijustwantedtoseeif
peoplewereactuallyinterestedinit.AfterIsaw500enroll,I’mlike,
boom.Nowit’stimetocreatetherealthing.Ihadthatexcitement
afterlisteningtotheShaneandJocelynSamsepisode,sothat’s
whenIcreatedtherealthing.BoughtaYetimic,Iwasliketheaudio
gottobeclean,recording,everything.
That’swhenIputmyallintoit,onceIknewthatfromthe
testimonial,thata)itcouldworkforsomeonejustlikeme,then
b)havingtheproofthat500enrolledinit,theyjustdidn’tlikethe
qualityofit.IfIcouldfixthequalityissue,Ihadsomethingonmy
handsthere.That’swhenPatIjustkeptgettingbetterandbetter.
IupgradedfromtheYetimictotheHeilPR-40now,andallbetter,
andjustkeptgettingbetter.BeforeGoToWebinarIwasusing
MeetingBurner,orsomeknockoffwebinarsoftware,soIstarted
withwhatIcouldaffordatthetime,andasIkeptmakingmoney,
Ikeptupgradingthetools,upgradingthesoftware,upgradingthe
webinarsoftware,upgradingthewebsites.
IstartedoffwithYoutubespendinglike$5orsomethinglikethat
topromotevideos,anditjustkeptgrowing.Iwaslike,“Wow,I’m
gettingalittletraction,”Imoveditupto$10,$20,$30.NowI’mata
pointIspentabout$7,000withYoutubeeverymonth,wespenda
couplethousandwithFacebook.Wespend$10,000onadsevery
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month,butit’sdrivingabout,I’mbringingin38,25,38,itfluctuates,
thousanddollarseverymonthgross.IstartedwithwhatIhad,and
Ijustkeptlevelingup,andthat’sreally,howIgottothispoint.Itall
overwhelmedmeatsomepoint,butIjustkeptscratchingawayat
thetools,scratchingawayatthefreestuff,thecheapstuff.WhenI
madealittlemoney,Iwouldjustkeepupgrading.
Pat: Niceman.Iloveit,Iloveit.GoingbacktothatShaneandJocelyn
episode,thatwasepisode122foreverybodyouttherelistening,
that’sactuallyafanfavorite.ThenUdemy,youusedUdemyto
validateyouridea,whichIthinkisgreat,andit’sreallygreatthat
paidattentiontowhypeoplewerecomplaining.Itwasn’tbecauseof
thecontent,itwasbecauseofthequality.Youdidexactlywhatyou
neededtodo,andIfeellikethat’ssomethingthatyoucontinued
todo,andhavedoneeversince.You’realwayslisteningtoyour
audience,reacting,andgivingthemeventuallywhattheywant.
Jason: Absolutely,thesamepeoplewhoboughtfoundations,whichismy
beginnercourse,theystartedsaying“Doyouteachoptions?”That’s
whenIwaslike,okay,it’stimetowritetheoptionscourse.ThenI
wrotetheoptionscourse,whichis197,andthenIjustappliedallthe
stuffIlearnedtomarketingtheoptionscourse.Thenpeoplestarted
saying,“Doyouhaveanycoachingavailable?”Soit’sfunny,thenI
relaunchmygroupcoaching,whichwehaveabout85membersin
that,andthat’s$99amonthrecurring,andonceIrelaunchedthat,
it’sjusteverytimepayingattentiontomycustomersandwhatthey
want.It’sfunnythatIlookback,Istartedthegroupcoachingfirst
withnocourse,andIcharged$39.99andInevermademorethan
$500amonth.Fastforwardit,afterbuildingthebeginnerscourse,
takingthemthroughoptions,andnowI’mgivingthemwhatthey
needwithcoaching,it’sfunny.Nowwe’reatabout95peoplein
there,andit’s$99amonth,soit’slikea200%priceincrease,and
it’swhatthepeopleneednow.Itookthemthroughtheprogression
justbylisteningtomycustomersandgivingthemwhattheywant
whentheyneededit.
Pat: That’sawesome,that’sawesome.Jason,youhadmentionedthat
youactuallyspendmoremoneyonYoutubeforadsthanyoudoon
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Facebook,whichissomethingthatalotofpeopledon’tnormally
do,becauseweoftenhearthatFacebookistheplacetobe,
butobviouslyYoutube’sbeenworkingoutforyou.Howareyou
spendingmoneyonYoutube?Meaning,whatdoesthatmean,what
doesthatlooklike?Areyouspendingadssothatlittlevideospop
upbeforeavideothatsomebodywantstoplayplays,orhowdoes
thatallwork?
Jason: Greatquestion.Forme,youhavetoalsounderstandwhattype
ofpeopleyou’regoingafter.Mypeople,notjustmypeople,but
anybodythat’stypinginhow-to,youwanttobeaplayerinthe
spaceonYoutube,excuseme.I’mbreakingnumberoneortwofor
how-togetstartedinthestockmarket,orbeginnerstockmarket
course,orhowtotradeforbeginners.Anyofthatcombination,
I’mrankingfor,butifI’mnotrankingforit,Ialsopaytocomeup
inYoutubesearchforit.Idon’tnecessarily,thevideodoesn’t
necessarilyplay,buttheadwillshow,andifyouclickit,you
obviouslyhavetobeinterestedinhowtogetstartedasabeginner.
I’msoconfidentinthefreestuffIgiveawayasabeginner,when
youclickit,it’sreallyaminiversionofmywebinar.It’slikeyou’re
actuallywatchingthewebinaronYoutube,sointheeventthatyou
didn’tcometomethroughFacebookorcometomywebsiteand
register,you’rekindofwatchingthesamewebinaronYoutubeand
gettingthesamecalltoactionattheend.Thenwe’resellingaton
ofcoursesthatway.
Pat: Yeahman,that’sgreat,thankyouforthatinsight.Itseemslike
you’rekillingitonYoutube.I’mhereononeofyourvideosthat
youpostedlastyear,Ilookeduphowtotradeforbeginners,and
youwerelikethesecondonethatpoppedup.Acommentfroma
weekago,youmaynothaveevenseenthisyet,butitsays“This
wasthemosthelpfulvideotutorialI’vewatchedthusfar,Iactually
learnedsomething.Alotofbeginnervideosareconfusing,some
peopletalktoofast,don’texplainwhatthey’redoingwellenough.
Ilikethatyoutalkslowlyenoughinsimple,relatableterms.”It’s
exactlyeverythingthatyoumentioned,andyouknowthatthat’s
whatyou’regoodat,soyoucontinuetodothat.Almostathousand
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thumbsuponthisvideo,over100,000views,andmanthisYoutube
thingforyouisgreat.
Itlookslikeyouknowexactlywhatyou’redoinghere.Youhave
othervideoshereitlookslike,nearlyhalfamillionviews,or
sometimesevenmore.Congratsonthatman,itseemslikeyour
videosareahit,andI’mgoingtomakesurethatwelinktoyour
Youtubechannel,sothatpeoplecanseehowthey’redone,and
howpeoplearerespondingtothem,becauseIthinkthat’sgoingto
bereallyimportant.Ifsomebodywerewantingtogetstartedwith
adsonYoutube,maybetheyhaveaYoutubechannel,it’sdone
verywell,buttheyjustdon’tevenknowwhatoptionstheyhavefor
Youtube,howmuchwouldyourecommendtheygetstartedwith?
HowdoyouevengoaboutdoingadsonYoutube?
Jason: Youknow,soYoutubeunlikeFacebook,I’mgoingtotellyouright
now,itisnot...Theplatformitselfisnotasuserfriendly.
Pat: Isn’titthroughGoogleAdWords?
Jason: Yes,soyouactuallyhavetosetupaGoogleAdWordsaccount,and
thenyouhavetolinkyourYoutubeaccount,andthenyoucan.Then
insideofthat,it’slikethreelevelsdeep.Doyouwanttodoanin-
stream,doyouwanttodoasidepost,wheretheadpopsuponthe
side.Youkindofhavetogoacouplelevelsdeep,butIwillsaythis.
Numberone,youneedtocreateaGoogleAdWordsaccount,and
linkyourYoutubeaccount.Numbertwo,setabudget.$10aday,
somethinglikethat.Youtubehassomanyviewersthatit’sgoingto
burnthroughyourmoneyquickly,soyoudon’twanttocomeinwith
$100,$200adayifyoudon’treally,youdon’tknowifyourtargeting
isright.Youcanspare$10aday.Hopefullyyoucan,ifyoucan’t,go
downto$5aday.
What’sniceaboutYoutubeis,there’ssomanyusersonYoutube,
thatthecostperviewandcostperclickissolow.I’mpaying
about,somewhereaboutfivecentstotwelvecentsperclick,butif
they’reclickingit,it’ssomeonethat’sinterested,becausetheywere
searchingforwhatIteach.That$10orthat$5willtakeyouvery
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far.Youcan’tgetcaughtupinthewhole,howdoImeasuretheROI
immediately?Theydon’tjustclickandthengobuyyourproduct.
Theyclick,theysubscribetomychannel,theyseewhatother
videosIhave.Thentheycometothewebsite,jumpontheemail
list,thentheygethitwiththeemailthatsays“Hey,whatcanIhelp
youwith?CanIhelpyoube,”andthat’swhenit’slike,“Hey,Isaw
yourYoutubevideoman,sohelpful,canthisreallyworkforme?”
Or“Whatdoyouthinkaboutthis?”Thenwestartthatconversation.
Then,theyendupbecomingacustomer.IfyoujumponYoutube
andyouthink,I’mjustgoingtoputacouplehundredbucksonthis,
andallthesepeoplearegoingtobuy,it’smoreofafunneland
nurturingsystemthanitisinstantgratification.
Pat: Yeah,howdoyouorganizeyourfunnels?Thatwouldbethelast
questionhere,becausethisissuchgreatinformation,Ithinkit’s
goingtogetalotofpeople’sheadsspinningonwhatisreally
possibleoutthere.Howdoyoukeeptrackofallthosefunnels?I
thinkthisisoneofthebiggeststrugglesthatonlineentrepreneurs
have,becausethere’ssomanyplaceswhereyoucouldgetnew
traffic.Howareyouabletoorganizeallthisinyourhead?
Jason: Idon’tinmyhead.
Pat: MaybetakingitoutofyourheadisthebestoptionthenIguess.
Jason: Right,yougottohaveyouranalyticssetup.IhaveGoogleanalytics
setupeverywherethroughoutmysite,whetherthey’recomingfrom
Facebook,whetherthey’recomingfromYoutube,I’mabletocheck
thoseanalyticsandfindoutwheretheycomefrom.Whenyou
optintomyemaillist,itusuallysayssomewhere,tellushowyou
foundus,sothatwayIcanmeasure,isthiscomingfromYoutube,
isitcomingfromFacebook?Sometimesit’scomingfromTwitteror
LinkedIn,butmytwobiggesttrafficisYoutubeandFacebook.Also,
whenyoupurchaseacourse,onthebackenditalsomakesyoutell
us,wheredidyouhearaboutusfromaswell,soI’mactuallyhaving
themtypeinwheretheyheardaboutusfrom.Whetherthey’re
optingintotheemaillist,orwhethertheyarecomingtoregister,
purchasingacourse.ThenI’malsocheckingthoseanalyticstosee
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whodrovethemosttraffic.
ThenwhatIalsoliketodo,Iliketosetupdualpages.Ifyouclickto
comepurchasethecoursethroughYoutube,it’sthesamepage,but
it’sadifferentURL.IfyouclicktocomepurchasethroughFacebook,
it’sthesamepage,differentURL.Itallowsmetosee,didthey
purchasecomingthroughFacebook,didtheypurchasecoming
Youtube.
Pat: That’ssmart.
Jason: That’skindofthebigpictureofhowItrackit.Obviouslyyoucan
seeI’mtrackingsubscribes.I’moveramillionviews,I’mlookingat
comments,differentthingslikethataswell.
Pat: Howdidyoulearntodoallthis?
Jason: Pat,really,whenIsayselftaughtman,Ispentsomanyhourson
Youtube,onyourpage.ThereasonIhaveapodcastisbecauseof
yourtutorial,howtodoitwithLibsynandallthatstuff.Iliterallyjust,
Ididn’thave,eventhoughIwasaninvestor,right,Iwasinvesting
toquitmyjobanddostufflikethat.Itwasn’ttobuybigcarsor
stufflikethat,itwastogetmytimeback.WhenIsaythat,Isaythat
tosayIdidn’thavealotofmoneytojustgooutandpaypeople
todevelopmywebsite,paypeopletodoallthis.Ihadtoputin
sweatequity,soIwentandIlearnedallthisstuffmyself.Obviously
Iboughtacouplecoursesalongtheway,acouplehundreddollar
courseshereandthere,butmostofitwasprettymuchselftaught.
Thebeautyinthatis,I’vebeenthinkingaboutlike,Icanteach
peoplehowtobuildamultisixfigurebusinessfromhomewithall
theinformationIhaveaboutsystems,aboutwebinars,aboutads
now.That’sawholeanotherbusinessinthefuturethatIcanscale.
It’spayingdividendsinknowledgethatIlearneditmyself,instead
ofjustshortcuttingandoutsourcingit,andevenifIdooutsourceit
now,whichI’mnotatthemoment,Iknowwhattolookforandwho
tolookfor.Irunintosomanypeoplewhosay,“Icanhandleyour
socialmedia,”andIcanbelike,“Welltellme,whatareyouthinking?
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Whatareyoudoing?”Iknowmorethantheydo,soI’mlike,no,
youcan’thandlemysocialmedia.I’mokay.It’sreallyhelpedme
becomemoreknowledgeableabouttheindustry,andasmarter...
IfI’mgoingtohiresomebody,I’msmarteraboutwhoIwouldhire
now,becauseIknowsomuchabouttheindustryofmarketingnow,
onlinemarketing.
Pat: Jason,man,thankyousomuchforyourknowledge,your
inspiration,andjustyourhumbleness.Thisisreallycool.Everybody
checkoutJason,whereat?
Jason: Theycancheckmeoutatthebrownreport.com,that’smymain
website,andalsoonFacebook,thebrownreport.comaswell.
Pat: Thanksman,thankyousomuch,weappreciateyou,andbestof
luckwitheverything.
Jason: Pat,Iappreciateyouman,thanksforhavingme.
Pat: Thankyou.
Allright,IhopeyouenjoyedthatinterviewwithJasonfrom
thebrownreport.com.Youcancheckhimoutthere.Youcan
alsocheckouttheshownotesandallthelinksmentionedat
smartpassiveincome.com/session226.Jason,Iknowyou’re
listeningtothis,probablyalittlebittrippy,hearingyourownvoice
ontheshow,becauseIknowyou’veheardtheshowbefore,but
that’sawesome,Ilovethat.Ihopethat’sagoalforeverybody.I
knowpeoplewhohaveexplicitlytoldme,straightup,“Pat,mygoal
istobeasuccessstoryonyourshow.”Ilovethat.There’salwaysa
spotforyouguyshere,andobviously,Ionlydotheseshowsonce
aweek,butIpayattentiontotheactionthatyoutakeandIwantto
sharethosesuccesses.ThatIfeelissuperinspirational.
IloveinterviewingtheAlisters,right.TheTimFerrises,andthe
GaryVaynerchuksandtheLewisHowsesoftheworld,andAmy
Porterfield,andallthosekindsofpeople.They’reamazing,they
provideincredibleamountsofvalue,butIfeelthere’satonof
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valueinsharingthesuccessstoriesfromlistenersjustlikeyoutoo.
Please,keepmeintheloopwithyourprogress.I’malwayshere
tosharesuccessstories,andI’vegottenthousandsofemailsfrom
people,soit’sgoingtobealittlebitcompetitive,butI’mhereto
sharethoseamazingsuccessstories.Whenyoudoemailmewith
yoursuccessstory,talkyourselfup,talkyourselfup,that’sallI’m
goingtosay.
Thankyousomuch,Iappreciateyou.Ialsoappreciatetoday’s
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