SPI 226 Defeating the “Curse of Online Business...time. I was just trying to figure out how to make $50 so I didn’t have to work on the weekend. Numbers just made sense to me,

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SPI 226Defeating the “Curse of Knowledge” and How Jason Brown Built His Successful Online BusinessAugust 10, 2016

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http://smartpassiveincome.com/session226


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Pat: ThisistheSmartPassiveIncomepodcastwithPatFlynn,session

number226.Let’smakeithappen.

Announcer: WelcometotheSmartPassiveIncomepodcast,whereit’sall

aboutworkinghardnow,soyoucansitbackandreapthebenefits

later,andnowyourhost.Hesingskidsongsontheukuleletohis

children-PatFlynn.

Pat: What’supeverybody,PatFlynnhere,thankyousomuchforjoining

metoday.Superstokedbecausewe’regoingtobesharinganother

successstoryfromsomebodywhohadlistenedtoSPI,tookaction,

andfoundsuccess.ThisisJasonBrownfromthebrownreport.com.

Specificallywe’regoingtotalkalotabouthowhe’sbeenableto,

whatIliketocalldefeatthecurseofknowledge.

ThecurseofknowledgeisthisthingIlearnedaboutwhenIread

ChipandDanHeath’sbookMadeToStick,Ihighlyrecommendthat

book,andinthisbooktheytalkaboutthisconceptthatiswhen

youlearnsomething,oryouknowsomething,it’sverydifficultand

almostimpossiblesometimestoknowwhatit’sliketonotknowthat

thing.Thisisabigstruggleforthoseusonlinewhoareteaching,

whohavecourses,whoarebuildingafollowing,becauseifwe’re

teachingandwedon’tunderstandwhatit’slikeontheotherend,

assomebodywhodoesnotknowthatthingthatwe’reteaching,

welloftentimeswecanspeakinanoverwhelmingmanner.Wecan

speakintermsthatdon’tmakesense.Wecanjustmakepeoplefeel

badsometimes,andwedon’twanttodothat.

Jason’sbeendoinganamazingjob,takenwhathe’slearnedhere

onSPIbutreallybeingabletopenetrateanichethathasbeenvery

saturatedovertheyears,andwhenherevealswhatthatis,you’ll

seewhatI’mtalkingabout.He’sbeenabletocomeinandbethat

voiceforthebeginnersoutthere,andIthinkalotofuscanbenefit

fromalotofwhatMr.Brownhastosayhere.

Thebrownreport.comishiswebsite,nowbeforewegettothe

interview,Ijustwanttothanktoday’ssponsor,whichis99designs.

com.99designs.comiswhereyoucangotogetsomegraphic




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designdoneforyouandyourbusiness.Irecentlyranacontest

actuallynottoolongagowhereIhadthemtakeanoldblogpost

ofmine,andrepurposeitintoaninfographic.Infographicsare

agreatwaytogainadditionalexposureonline,andIfoundthe

processextremelyeasy,andIwasgivenabout10-12different

completeinfographicstochoosefrom.That’sthecoolthingabout

99Designs.Youputwhatyou’relookingforonthere,andseveral

designersfromaroundtheworldaregoingtocompeteforyour

favoritedesign.

IactuallyaskedpeopleonTwitterwhichonetheylikedbest.I

pickedmytopthree,andtheytoldmewhichonewasbest,so

that’showIwasabletoselecttheonethatwasgoingtobemost

useful.Theywereallgreat,andIlove99designs.comforthoseof

uswhoarejuststartingout.Ifeellikeifyoucan’tyetaffordthatone

designerwho’sgoingtobeonyourteamforgood,99Designsis

averyeconomicalwaytogetthosedesignsdonethatyouneed

quitequickly.Sevendayturnaround,ifyoudon’tlikethedesigns

thatcomein,youcangetyourmoneyback,andit’sjustveryvery

streamlined,Iloveit.Checkitout,99designs.com/SPI,that’llgive

you$99towardyournextdesignproject.Againthat’s99designs.

com/SPI.

Allright,thankssomuch,andlet’sgettotoday’sinterviewwith

JasonBrownagainfromthebrownreport.com,herewego.

Jason,what’sup?Welcometotheshow,thankyousomuchfor

beinghere.

Jason: Hey,gladtobehere,Pat,really.

Pat: Jason,tellmeabout,whatisitthatyoudo?Ifsomebodyweretoask

youonthestreet,“HeyJason,whatdoyoudoforaliving?”What

wouldyousay.

Jason: Irunastockmarketeducationwebsite,orcompany.Weteach

peoplehowtotradeonline.Taketheirownmoneyandgetstarted

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Pat: Haveyoualwaysbeensortofastocktrader,andintothatkindofworld?

Jason: Yeah,soinabout2002,2003Iwasthreeandahalf,fouryearsinto

mycollegedegreehereatWayneStatehereinDetroit,Michigan.

Iwasgoingforengineering,andIwasworkingatSprintPCSpart

time.Iwasjusttryingtofigureouthowtomake$50soIdidn’thave

toworkontheweekend.Numbersjustmadesensetome,Imade

$8anhour,$64ashift,whenyoutaketaxesoutthat’sabout$50.

Iwaslike,“Man,ifIcouldawaytomake$50,thenIdon’thaveto

workSaturdaysanymore.”Atthattime,Sprintstockwaslike$5,

andIhad$500.Ihadboughtlike100shares,andIwaslike,ifitjust

moves50cents,Icouldmake$50.Justtofastforward,Iendedup

makingthe$50,andIendedupturning,boughta$10,000student

loanintoasixfiguretradingaccount.Iwas22yearsold,nocollege

degree,andjusthadmademoremoneythananybodyinmyfamily

atthatpoint,andIknewIhadfoundmyniche,mycalling.

Imadealotofmoney,lostalotofmoney,andfastforward,asIgot

backintotradingafterlosingmoneyandmakingitback,Iwaspart

ofsomeoneelse’smembershipwebsite.Iwaspayingamonthly

subscription,andIthought,“Iwonderwhatpeoplewouldpayme

tobeabletolearnaboutmytrades.”Istartedbloggingaboutmy

trades,becauseIwasmakingmoney,andpeoplestartedmaking

moneyoffmytrades.Iwaslike,“Well,howcomeIdon’thavea

membershipsite?”That’swhatledmeintothewholesearchof

onlinemarketing,andhowtocreateamembershipsite.Really,led

metofindingyouandalotofyourtutorialsaboutWordpressand

BlueHost,andallthosethings.

Pat: Whendidyoumaketheshiftintotheonlineworld?Whatyearwas

that?

Jason: Itwasaboutthreeyearsago.

Pat: Okay,soabout2013kindof?Atthatpoint,youhadsaidthatyou

weredoingstockmarketstuff,andobviouslyit’sveryvolatile.What

madeyoufeellikethiswasgoingtobeasuccessforyou?Ithink

alotofpeoplehavegoneintothestockmarket,andIfeellikefor




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someit’sagamble.Whatmakesyoursdifferentthanagamble?

Jason: That’sagreatquestion,andIknowmostpeopledofeellikeit’s

gambling,it’sgambling,right.ThebestwayIcanexplainit,Iliketo

usethisexample,Pat.IfyouwatchTV,orifyou’veeverbeeninthe

hospitalandyouseesomeonehookeduptooneofthosemonitors.

Letmeaskyou,ifthatline’sblinkingupanddown,ifitgoesflat,

whathappenstotheperson?

Pat: Well,they’redead.

Jason: They’redead,right?Thenifitcomesbackandit’sbeatingandit’s

blinkinghigh,thenthat’sgoodnews,right?Thatmeansthey’re

doingokay.ThewayIliketoexplainitis,thestockmarketgivesoff

signalsthatshowswhenastockorthemarketisflatlining,whena

stockisabouttodiesotospeak,orselloff,orfall.Thenitalsogives

offsignalswhenthestock’sheartisbeatinggoodandpositiveand

doinggreat.Thosesignalscanactuallybereadonastockchart,

andthat’swhatmakesitnotgambling.Itnowturnsintopattern

recognition,andmoreprobabilityandstatistics.Ialwayssay,you

didn’thavetogotonursingschoolorbecomeadoctor,youknewit

rightoffthebatifthatlineflatlined,thatthepersonwasdead,and

ifit’sbeating,ifit’sblinkingupanddown,thenthey’redoinggood.

Samethingwiththestockmarket.Youdon’thavetobesupersmart

orgotoschoolforit.Ifyoulearnhowtoreadthepattern,thenyou

canlearnhowtofindthemoney.

Pat: Right,andyouknowI’minvolvedinthestockmarketalittlebit.

We’renotheretotalkaboutstocks,orconvinceanybodythatthey

should,we’reheretotalkabouthowyoubuiltyourbusiness.Iwant

togobacktowhenyoustartedtoblogaboutwhatyouweredoing.

Iknowthere’salotofpeopleouttherewhotalkaboutstockmarket,

tryingtogamethesystem,orlearnabouttheseheartbeatslikeyou

weretalkingabout.Howwereyouabletostandoutwhenyoufirst

gotinthisspace?Howwereyouabletoactuallygetnoticedwhen

youfirststartedout?

Jason: WhenIfirstlookedattheindustry,whatIfoundwasalotofpeople




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weretryingtobesmartaboutit,orreallyexplainitinawaythat

madethemlooksmart,anditreallyendedupmakingpeople

confusing.Ijustsaid,howcomepeopledon’tjustexplainitin

laymanterms,justtellyoublackandwhitewhatthismeans,and

whatitmeansforyou.I’vebeenabletostandoutjustbykeepingit

simple,andexplainingithowIneededtohearitwhenIfirststarted

learningaboutit.Whenyouputthatoutonline,Igetalotofpeople

thatsaywow,thiswasthefirsttimethatIhearditthatitactually

madesensetome.I’velistenedtoXamountofotherpeople.

Keepingitreallysimple,andexplainingitinlaymantermsisreally

whatmakesmestandoutonline.

Pat: Ilikethat,that’ssomethingIfeelismysuperpoweraswell,taking

thesereallycomplicatedthings,breakingthemdown,makingthem

easyforpeopletounderstand.Doyoufeellikethat’ssomething

thatcanbelearned,oristhatsomethingthatyou’resortofborn

with?Theabilitytoteachsomebodysomethinginawaythatthey’re

moreeasilytorespondto?

Jason: Ithinkit’ssomethingthatcanbelearnedifyoudon’tgettoofull

ofyourself.Ifyoudon’tassumepeopleknowwhatyou’retalking

about,assumetheyknowcertaindefinitions,youdon’ttalkyour

ownindustryjargon.Actlikeyou’retalkingtoyourchild,orakid.

Youwouldbreakitdowntothemostsimplisticterms,sothattome

letsmeknowthatitisalearnedbehavior,youdon’tnecessarily

havetobebornwithit.It’sjustamatterofrecognizingyour

audience,andnotassumingthattheyknoweverything,orthatthey

knowthejargonthatyou’retalking.

Pat: Right,right,andwecallthatthecurseofknowledge.Whenyou

knowsomething,it’sactuallyreallyhardtoknowwhatit’sliketonot

knowitanymore,whichiswhyit’sachallengetoteachpeoplestuff.

Especiallytheonlinespace.Tryingtoalwaysputyourselfintheshoes

ofyouraudienceisareallyimportantthingtodo,thisistalkedabout

inChipandDanHeath’sbookcalledMadeToStick,thiscurseof

knowledge.Ifeel,anditseemslikeyoudotooJason,wehavethis

superpowerofjustdeflectingthatcurseofknowledgeandreally

beingabletoteachouraudiencestuffataverysimplisticlevel.




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Iknow,frommyownexperience,whenI’vebeenabletodothis,

someotherpeopleintheonlinemarketingspacehavetoldmethat

Ieithera)amdumbingthingsdown,orb)justamnotverysmart

becauseofthewayIteachit.Haveyougottenanyofthatfrom

peopleinthesamespace,who,likeyousaidearlier,weretalking

liketheywerethesmartestguys,ormaybedoingallthesereally

complicatedthings.Maybetheyaresmart,I’msuretheyare,butdo

theylookatyou,andarelike“Thisguydoesn’tevenbelonghere.”

Jason: Youknow,Idon’tknow.Ireallydon’tgetalotoffeedbackfrom

othertraders.Wedon’t,Iguesswedon’treallycritiqueorwatch

eachother’sstuffthatmuch.Ithinkthebigpictureis,arepeople

learning?Arethecommentsonyourvideos,theemailsyou’re

getting,aretheysayingthatthey’reveryhelpful?Ohmygod,untilI

metyou,Ididn’tthinkIcoulddothis,thattypeofstuff.Whenyou’re

getting,andI’msureyougetthosetypeofemails,Iwasoneof

thosepeopleemailingyou,gobackthroughsomeofyouremails,

right.Whenyougetthosetypeofemails,itdoesn’tmatterwhatthe

other“experts”say,you’resatisfyinganeedandanichethatneeds

ittobesimplified.Ijustlovebreakingitdown.

Infact,ifIcouldsharejustaquickstory,Ihadamembershipsite

before,andInevergotitover$500amonth.Whenpeoplewould

cancel,wewouldemailthem,andwhenIsaywe,me,myself,Iwas

theassistant,Iwaseverything,butItalkinthirdperson.Iwould

emailthemandsay,“Why’dyoucancel?”Peoplewouldsay,thisis

tooadvanced,it’skindofovermyhead.Infact,Iwaslike,“Well,I

don’twanttoteachthebasicstuff,I’manoptionstrader,I’mhere

fortheadvancedpeople.”Thenafterthelastpersoncancelledone

day,anditwentfrom$500to0,Iwaslike,I’mgoingtogivethese

peoplewhattheywant.I’mgoingtocreatethemostbasiccourse,

andI’mgoingtogiveittothem.That’swhatchangedmylife.

WhatIthoughtwassimple,and“Oheverybodyknowshowtoopen

atradingaccountonline,”that’soneofmytopvideos.Ifoundonce

Igotoutofmyownway,puttheegoaside,thenworryaboutwhat

Iwantedtoteachorwhateverybodyelsewasteaching,butwhat

peoplereallyneeded.Nomatterhowsophisticatedorsimpleitwas,




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thatwasthebestforme,andthat’swhenpeoplestartedtofind

meorganically.Iwasdoingthesimplevideosthatnooneelsewas

doing.

Pat: Okay,yousaidvideosisonewaythatpeoplearefindingyou.Is

Youtubeyourprimarychannelforexposurerightnow?Whatelsedo

youhave?

Jason: Youtubeismynumberonetrafficgenerator,andFacebookwould

bemynumbertwo.

Pat: FacebookintermsofdoyouhaveaFacebookpage,orareyou

payingforadvertising?Howisthatworking?

Jason: Facebookads.IhaveaFacebookpage,butalotofFacebookadsI

run.

Pat: Takeusthroughtheprocess.IfI’monFacebook,andIseeyourad,

whatdoesthatadsay,wheredoIgoafterIclick?Walkmethrough

thatfunnel.

Jason: Sure.MaybeyoufindmeonYoutube,maybeyoufindmethrough

organicsearch.Ifyouobviouslycometothepage,we’regoingto

beabletoserveyousomeads,sayhey,youmightwanttocheck

outthisvideo,youmightwanttocheckoutthiswebinar.Then

juststraightmadeuptoFacebook,meaningyoudidn’tfindme

anywhereelse,I’mrunningFacebookvideoadsjustsharingwith

peoplethatcomeregisterforwebinars,spendabout45minutes

withme.I’mgoingtotakeacomplicatedsubjectandmakeitsimple.

It’smeinthevideo,theyregisterforthewebinar,andIjustserveup

great,freecontentonthewebinar.There’snoholdingback.Then

attheend,Iletthemknow,ifyouwanttolearnmore,here’sthe

courseandhere’swhatyouget.

Pat: Haveyou,orareyoudoingthoseFacebookadsyourself,ordoyou

havesomebodyhelpingyouonthat?

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Pat: Whatwasitlikewhenyoufirststarted?Iknowthatitcangetvery

overwhelming.There’salotofoptionsthattheFacebookpower

editor,andalltheseotheradtools.There’ssomanyoptions.How

doyouevengetstartedwithsomethinglikethat?

Jason: Thepowereditorwasinitiallywaslikeanightmare,itwasreally

toughtouse.Facebookhascomealongwaytowhereit’sreally

simple.Youjustuploadthevideo,youputyourtext,yourcomments,

almostlikeablogpost,ashortenedblogpost.Thenthetargetingis

solaserfocused,you’vegotsomanywaysyoucango,Ijustkindof

mapoutwhowouldbemyidealaudience,who’slookingforsimilar

contentonline,orfollowingsimilarpeople,orjustlookingforthe

keywordstockmarket,orsomethinglikethat.ThenIjusttarget

people.Ididtakeacoupleofonlinecoursesinit,butforthemost

partonceyougetinthere,andyoukindofunderstandthepower

editor,whichasmanysoftwareupgradesthey’vedone,it’sreally

simpletousenow.

Pat: Inthevideothatyouserveintheadvertisement,whatareyou

sayinginthat?Areyoutalking,Imeanobviouslyyou’resaying

comejoinmeonthewebinar,butisthereanythingeducationalin

there,too?

Jason: No,prettymuchwhatIjustsaid.It’sjustmesaying“Hey,it’sanew

year,andit’stimetolearnaboutthestockmarketandwhatitcould

doforyouandyourfamily.Iknowitseemslikeaconfusingsubject,

butit’showIwasabletocreatesomewealth,andhowWarren

Buffettandotherscreatedwealth.Ifyouthinkit’sconfusing,come

spend30-45minuteswithme,Ipromiseit’sgoingtobeworthyour

time.I’mgoingtosharehowtogetstartedinthestockmarket,

thesecretsofhowtogrowasmallbankaccountwithnotalotof

money.”ItellthemthefourthingsI’mgoingtoteachthem,andI

sayhey,Ipromiseit’sgoingtobeworthyourtimeandafterwards,

comebackandletmeknowwhatyoulikebestaboutthewebinar,

clickthelinkinthedescription,andI’llseeyouontheotherside.It’s

reallythatstraightforward.

Pat: There’salinkinthere,andthattakesmetoalandingpageI




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assume?

Jason: Yougotit,webinarregistrationpage.

Pat: Whatareyouusingtoserveupthatlandingpage?

Jason: OptimizePress.

Pat: Okay,OptimizePress,great.There’salotofotheroptionsobviously

forthat.Thenthereare,sothewebinarsoftware,whatareyou

usingforwebinars?

Jason: IfoundGoToWebinartobethebest.Itriedalotoftheotherones,

andtriedtosavesomemoneyondifferentwebinarsoftwares,butI

reallyfoundGoToWebinartobethebestformylivewebinars.Then

formyevergreenwebinars,EverWebinar.

Pat: EverWebinar.Telluswhatyoumeanbyevergreenwebinarsand

howareyouusingthem?

Jason: Right,greatquestion,becausewemightbetalkingoversome

people’sheadrightnow.

Pat: Yeah,Iwanttomakesuretogeteverybodycaughtup.

Jason: Greatquestion.Iwasdoing,Istilldolivewebinars,whichiswhen

IuseGoToWebinar,whichisreallymelive,realtime,doingthe

webinar.

Pat: Howoftendoyoudothose?I’msorry.

Jason: HowlongdoIdothose?

Pat: Howoftendoyoudotheliveones?

Jason: NowIdothem,Idoalotofwebinars,everyweekformymembers.

Asfarasforpromotingaproduct,Ionlydoitwhenanewproductis

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Pat: Gotcha,okay.

Jason: WhenIhaveanewcoursecomingout.Currently,everythingis

runningonevergreen,whichmeansit’sawebinarthat’stimeless,

it’sdateless,theinformationjuststaysrelevant.Wheneverthey

registerfromtheFacebookad,andcomewatchthewebinar,

it’salwaysrelevant.There’snodatesortimes,anythinglikethat

mentionedinit,andtheinformationnevergetsold.Theyregister

forthatwebinar,andit’sasystemthatautoplaysthewebinar,allows

themtoleavecommentsinthere.Thecommentswillcomestraight

tomyselformyassistant,andthenwecanreplyrightfromourcell

phone,orwritefromemail,justincasetheyhadanyquestions.

Pat: Gotcha,soifIseeanadofyoursonFacebookforexample,andI

registerforthewebinar.Thatwouldinitiallyanevergreenwebinar,

right,becauseyou’vealreadyrecordedthat,that’stheonethatI

wouldbeserved,right?

Jason: Correct.

Pat: HowmuchlongerafterIregisterwillIseethat?Arethereany

emailsthatgoout,thatsortofsay,heyyourwebinariscomingupin

threedays,ordoIgetaccesstoitimmediately?

Jason: Itdependsonwhattimeyoupick.Werunthemthreetimesaday,

usuallyIbelieveit’steno’clock,oneo’clockandseveno’clockor

eighto’clock.

Pat: SowhenIregisterIcanpickatimethatworksforme?

Jason: Yougotit,soyoucanpickatimethatworksforyou.Werecently

justenabledJustinTimewebinars,andI’vefoundwegetthe

highestopt-inandattendancerateforthejustintime,whichmeans

thewebinarstartsinabout15minutesfromthetimeyouclickon

andcheckwhattimesyoustart.

Pat: That’sgoingtobeadifferenttimeforeverybodyafterthey

subscribe,right?It’sstilltimedafterwards,right?




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Jason: Yougotit.

Pat: Wow,veryinteresting.That’satool,whatwasthattooltobeableto

servethoseinthatway?

Jason: EverWebinariswhatIuseforthatone.

Pat: Howdoyouspellthat?

Jason: EverWebinar.

Pat: EverWebinar,okaycool,I’llhavetocheckthatout.Iknowthere’s

alotofotherevergreenwebinarsoftwaresoutthere.Itseemsto

bethethingthatalotofpeopleareusingtoautomatetheprocess

now.Alotofpeopleusedtodotheselivepromotionalvideosthat

thensellthemembershipsiteeveryweek,sometimesmultiple

timesaday,anditwouldjustburnthemout,becauseit’sjustalot

ofworktodothesethings.Ifyoudoawebinarandit’sgreat,you

mightaswelluseitoverandoveragain.

Jason: Yeah,andthenwhenyoureallythinkaboutit,ifyou’redoinga

webinaronacertainproduct,it’snotlikeyou’rechangingwhat

you’resayingeverynightorthreetimesaday,soitjustmakes

sensethatyouputitonautopilot.You’renotreallycheatingthe

audienceoranything.Inevertrytomakeitseemlikeit’slive.I

wouldsaythesamething,whenIwasdoingthemlive,Iwouldsay

thesamethingnightafternight,threetimesaday,anyway.Itjust

madesense.Howdoyouservetheaudiencetowheretheycan

registerforthetimethat’sbestforthem,andtheystillgetthesame

messagethatyouweregoingtodeliverlive,anyway.

Pat: Gotit,okayperfect.I’mwatchingyourwebinar,you’redelivering

highvaluecontent.Howdoyouknowwhattosay?Isitjustyour

kindofmostpopular,basicstuff?Yousaidearlierthatyou’rekindof

givingitallaway,right?

Jason: Right,kindofgivingitall.There’salwaysanotherleveltogodeep.

Ilearnedthisfromyou.Thatis,giveawaysomeofyourbeststuff




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forfree,becausewhenpeoplehearit,andtheyrealize,ifthisis

whatthey’regettingforfree,thenthepaidstuffmustbethatmuch

nextlevel.Thefreestuffisgreat,it’sgood,butthenthepaidstuff

is,wetakethem2-3levelsdeeper,reallygetgranular,reallyget

verydetailed.Thewebinar,onceyouoptintomyemaillist,and

differentthingslikethatovertime,Iusuallyaskthemaquestionlike

“What’syourbiggestfrustrationwiththemarket?”Oneofmyemail

autoresponderssay,what’stheoneortwothingsthatifIcouldhelp

youwiththestockmarket,helpyouunderstanditbetter,takeyour

tradetothenextlevel,whatwouldthoseoneortwothingsbe?

Overtime,everyonejustrepliesandyoukindofgetthisbucketof

thingsthatit’sthetoptwoorthreestumblingblocksforpeople.I

justbuiltthewebinararoundit,saying,muchlikeyou,somepeople

thinkit’sgambling.Soyou’llgetthatback,“Iheardit’sgambling,

butthat’swherewealthiscreated,soitcan’tbegamblingfor

everybody.”It’slikeokay,howdoIdebunkthemythofgambling.

Mostpeoplewillwritebackandsay,“IheardIthinkIneedalotof

money,”soI’mlike,nottrue.Ibuiltthewebinararoundhowdoyou

getstarted,howdoyouopenanaccount,doyoureallyneedalot

ofmoney?Doyouhavetobesmart?Ijusttakeallthoseanswers,

andletmecreateawebinarthatdebunksthemyths,shareswith

themhowitreallyworks,andthengivethemanoptiontolearn

moreandgetdeeperwithme.

Pat: Loveit,Ilovethat.You’redebunking,you’reprettymuchsaying

whatthey’realreadythinking,andgivingthemtherightanswer.It’s

notanythingtheyhavetoworryaboutanymore,Ilovethat.You’re

notguessing,it’sexactlywhatyoushouldbedoing,becauseit’s

comingdirectlyfromthemouthsofyourpotentialcustomers,which

isfantastic.

Jason: Absolutely.

Pat: I’mwatchingit,it’sagreatvalue,it’sallthequestionsthatIhadin

myheadthatyou’reansweringalreadyforme.I’mlike,lovingyou

rightnow.That’showyoustarttobuildthisrelationshipwithpeople

ratherquickly.Youstarttoanswerthequestionsthatarealreadyin




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theirhead.I’mintoyouandwhatyou’reteaching,tellmeaboutyour

pitch.Howdoyoupitchyourmembershipsitefromthewebinar?

Jason: Fromthewebinar,firstisthecourse,soIdon’tactuallypitchthe

membershipsite.Youactuallyhavetoapplytobeapartofthe

membershipcommunity,becauseIwanttomakesurewehavethe

rightpeopleinthere.

Pat: Okay,soyouhavemultipleofferings,andthiswebinarisforthe

course.

Jason: Yes,oneofmycourses,whichisthebeginnercourse,whichI

callfoundations.Igothroughthewholewebinar,debunkthetop

fourmyths,howtogetstarted,whatwejusttalkedabout.ThenI

showedthemwhatIjusttalkedaboutwiththeheartbeat,Ishow

themexamplesofrealstockcharts.It’snotlike,well,buythecourse

andI’llshowyouhowitreallyworks.Ishowthemarealstockchart,

andIgothroughhowtoreadit.Then,whenIgettotheend,Ishow

here’swhatwe’regoingtogothroughdeeperinthecourseifyou’re

interested.Thenhere’sthebonuses,andoneofthebonusesisalso

yougettobepartofourprivateFacebookgroupwhereyougetto

networkwithothertraders,becausethat’soneofthemyths,orone

ofthethingsthatpeopleemailedback,“Iwanttogetstartedbut

mymotherthinksI’mcrazy,mybrotherthinksitdoesn’twork,my

wife,peopleatworksayI’mcrazy.”I’mlike,wellhere’sacommunity

whereyoucanbepartofothercrazypeoplethatitisworkingfor,

andyouwanttocometousandgetyourquestionsanswered.

SomepeoplejoinjustfortheFacebookgroup,somepeople

obviouslyjoinfortheinformationandtheFacebookgroup.That’s

mycallofaction,mycallofactionisifyou’vebeenlookingaround

thewebandyouhaven’tfoundwhatyou’relookingfor,andyou

likehowIexplainit,whywouldyougoanywhereelse?Thisisthe

courseforyou.IfyoulikedhowIexplaineditinthelast45minutes,

it’snotgoingtogetanyworseinthecourse,it’sgoingtogetbetter.

Iliterallysaythatinthewebinar,Itellthemthatmypricepoint

comparedtothecompetition.Ididtheresearch,mypricepointis

reallyreasonable.It’s$97andIhearallthetime,youcouldcharge




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more,youcouldraiseyourprice,butitdefeatsmypurpose.My

purposeistogettheinformationoutthereintothehandsofthe

masses,andoneofthethingsthatstopsthemassesfromgetting

thisinformation,iseverybodywantstoputa$3,000$4,000price

tagonit.

Isaythatonthewebinar,it’s$97,ifyoucan’tput$97toinvestand

learninthisindustry,you’renotgoingtobesuccessfulanyway.

AnotherthingIthinkthatseparatesmeorthatIsayonthewebinar

is,Iofferamoneybackguarantee.Itwas60days,wereducedit

downto30days,itmaygodownto14,butrightnow,atleastat

thetimeofthisrecording,Igivea30daymoneybackguarantee.

IfeelsoconfidentinwhatI’mteachingthatyouwillbeabetteror

differentpersonasfarasunderstandingthestockmarketwhen

we’redone,thatIcangiveyoua30daymoneybackguarantee

becauseIwanttoshowyouthatthisisn’tjustaboutgettingyour

$97,Iwantpeoplewhoreallywanttolearnthis,andIfeelthat

confidentaboutwhatI’mteachingandhowI’mteachingit.

Pat: Nice.Canyougiveanyinsightintohowwellthecourseisdoingforus?

Jason: Yeah,sowe’resellingabout200-250coursesamonth,andthat’s

beengoingforabout,gosh.It’sbeenrunningforaboutagoodeight

monthswe’vebeendoingthat.I’mputtingupsomeprettydecent

numbers.

Pat: ThosearereallygoodnumbersJason,congratulations,that’s

awesome.Didyouthinkthatitcouldever...Fromwhatyou

explained,obviouslyIdon’twanttosayit’seasy,becauseitdoes

requirealotofworkobviously.Hopefully,Ifeellikeyou’vedone

agoodjob,andlikeyousaid,it’soneofyoursuperpowers,of

breakingthingsdownreallyeasilyforpeople.Ithinkalotofpeople

aregoingtolistentothisandbelike,“Wow,that’sactuallynotas

hardasImaybethoughtitwasgoingtobe,”andhereyouaredoing

extremelywell.

Lookingbackatwhenyoufirststarted,whatwereyourfeelings

whenyouwerefirststartinggettingintothis,intotheadsandthe




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webinars.Wereyoualwaysconfidentinhowyouwereselling?

Iknowthat’sabigpartofit.Didyoukindofworryaboutthe

webinars,orsellingandyouknow,basedonyourbackground,this

isn’treallysomethingyounecessarilywenttoschoolfor,buthere

youaresellingacourseonit.Speakonthatifyoucan.

Jason: Yeah,IfeltlikeIpickedupawholesecondskillbecauseIbuilt

mywholewebsitebymyself.IrememberwhenIfirstgotstarted,I

waslike,wellhowdoIbuildamembershipwebsite?Istartedjust

YoutubeandGooglingaround,that’showIcameacrossoneof

yourWordpressandBluehosttutorials,andIwaslikeokay,whois

thisguy?That’showIactuallyfirstlearnedaboutyou.Iwatched

allthefreestuffIcouldpossiblywatch.IknowyougotsomeBlue

Hostaffiliateloveoffofme,becauseIsignedupthroughyour

affiliatelink.IsignedupwiththewholeBluehostthing,andcreated

aWordpresssite.ThenIwaslike,howdoImakeitamembership

site?Istartedaskingpeople,I’dpay,I’dbewillingtopay,and

nobodyknewhowtocreateamembershipsite.Everybody’s

like,Icanbuildyouawebsite,butnobodyknewhowtodoa

membership.Likeiftheypay,theygetaccess.Iftheydon’tpay,it

kicksthemout.Nobodyknewhowtodoit,soIjustwenttotheweb

andfigureditoutmyself.

IboughtWishlistMember,IboughtDigitalAccessPass,Ibought

themboth,andIwaslikewhicheveronedon’tworkthebest,I’m

returningtheotherone.

Pat: Whichoneareyouusing?

Jason: I’musingWishlistMembertothisday.ThenIdidthat,andthenI

waslike,butnowmywebsitelooksugly.HowdoIgetthesesweet

squeezepagesandallthisstuff?Iwentback,I’mGoogling,like

whatdoesPatuse,whatdopeopleuse?Iboughtsomeplugin

tocreatepages,anditwasahorribleplugin.ThenIcameacross

OptimizePress,soIboughtOptimizePress.Ijustkeptleveling

up,andthenthat’swhenIhadthe$500thingthatitwaslike

$39.99amonth,Inevermademorethan$500.Aftereverybody

hadcanceled,Ihitkindofmydarkpoint,andIwaslike“Man,this




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stuffdoesn’twork.”That’swhenIheardyourpodcastepisodewith

coach,ex-coachShaneandJocelynSams.Iwaslike,“Manthatguy

islikeme.”Ihadjustshutmysitedown,Iwasdepressed,I’mlike,

mylastfewmemberscancelledandIjustrefundedthelasttwo

becauseIwasjustsickofit.

Iheardhisepisodeabouthowhecreatedhiscourseandwas

sellinghiscoachingcourse,andIwaslike,that’sit!Mybeginners

coursethateverybodykeptaskingfor.Ijustwentbacktothe

drawingboard,Idrewupthewholecourse,recordedit.WhatIdid

was,IpostedamockversiononUdemyandIhadlikeover500

peopleenroll.Itwaslikeahorriblecourse,pooraudio,everything,

andpeoplewereleavingcommentslike“Ican’tbelievethisisa

course,Ican’tbelieve,thisishorrible.”Ididn’tgetdiscouraged.

Iwaslike,wellthat’snottherealcourse,Ijustwantedtoseeif

peoplewereactuallyinterestedinit.AfterIsaw500enroll,I’mlike,

boom.Nowit’stimetocreatetherealthing.Ihadthatexcitement

afterlisteningtotheShaneandJocelynSamsepisode,sothat’s

whenIcreatedtherealthing.BoughtaYetimic,Iwasliketheaudio

gottobeclean,recording,everything.

That’swhenIputmyallintoit,onceIknewthatfromthe

testimonial,thata)itcouldworkforsomeonejustlikeme,then

b)havingtheproofthat500enrolledinit,theyjustdidn’tlikethe

qualityofit.IfIcouldfixthequalityissue,Ihadsomethingonmy

handsthere.That’swhenPatIjustkeptgettingbetterandbetter.

IupgradedfromtheYetimictotheHeilPR-40now,andallbetter,

andjustkeptgettingbetter.BeforeGoToWebinarIwasusing

MeetingBurner,orsomeknockoffwebinarsoftware,soIstarted

withwhatIcouldaffordatthetime,andasIkeptmakingmoney,

Ikeptupgradingthetools,upgradingthesoftware,upgradingthe

webinarsoftware,upgradingthewebsites.

IstartedoffwithYoutubespendinglike$5orsomethinglikethat

topromotevideos,anditjustkeptgrowing.Iwaslike,“Wow,I’m

gettingalittletraction,”Imoveditupto$10,$20,$30.NowI’mata

pointIspentabout$7,000withYoutubeeverymonth,wespenda

couplethousandwithFacebook.Wespend$10,000onadsevery




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month,butit’sdrivingabout,I’mbringingin38,25,38,itfluctuates,

thousanddollarseverymonthgross.IstartedwithwhatIhad,and

Ijustkeptlevelingup,andthat’sreally,howIgottothispoint.Itall

overwhelmedmeatsomepoint,butIjustkeptscratchingawayat

thetools,scratchingawayatthefreestuff,thecheapstuff.WhenI

madealittlemoney,Iwouldjustkeepupgrading.

Pat: Niceman.Iloveit,Iloveit.GoingbacktothatShaneandJocelyn

episode,thatwasepisode122foreverybodyouttherelistening,

that’sactuallyafanfavorite.ThenUdemy,youusedUdemyto

validateyouridea,whichIthinkisgreat,andit’sreallygreatthat

paidattentiontowhypeoplewerecomplaining.Itwasn’tbecauseof

thecontent,itwasbecauseofthequality.Youdidexactlywhatyou

neededtodo,andIfeellikethat’ssomethingthatyoucontinued

todo,andhavedoneeversince.You’realwayslisteningtoyour

audience,reacting,andgivingthemeventuallywhattheywant.

Jason: Absolutely,thesamepeoplewhoboughtfoundations,whichismy

beginnercourse,theystartedsaying“Doyouteachoptions?”That’s

whenIwaslike,okay,it’stimetowritetheoptionscourse.ThenI

wrotetheoptionscourse,whichis197,andthenIjustappliedallthe

stuffIlearnedtomarketingtheoptionscourse.Thenpeoplestarted

saying,“Doyouhaveanycoachingavailable?”Soit’sfunny,thenI

relaunchmygroupcoaching,whichwehaveabout85membersin

that,andthat’s$99amonthrecurring,andonceIrelaunchedthat,

it’sjusteverytimepayingattentiontomycustomersandwhatthey

want.It’sfunnythatIlookback,Istartedthegroupcoachingfirst

withnocourse,andIcharged$39.99andInevermademorethan

$500amonth.Fastforwardit,afterbuildingthebeginnerscourse,

takingthemthroughoptions,andnowI’mgivingthemwhatthey

needwithcoaching,it’sfunny.Nowwe’reatabout95peoplein

there,andit’s$99amonth,soit’slikea200%priceincrease,and

it’swhatthepeopleneednow.Itookthemthroughtheprogression

justbylisteningtomycustomersandgivingthemwhattheywant

whentheyneededit.

Pat: That’sawesome,that’sawesome.Jason,youhadmentionedthat

youactuallyspendmoremoneyonYoutubeforadsthanyoudoon




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Facebook,whichissomethingthatalotofpeopledon’tnormally

do,becauseweoftenhearthatFacebookistheplacetobe,

butobviouslyYoutube’sbeenworkingoutforyou.Howareyou

spendingmoneyonYoutube?Meaning,whatdoesthatmean,what

doesthatlooklike?Areyouspendingadssothatlittlevideospop

upbeforeavideothatsomebodywantstoplayplays,orhowdoes

thatallwork?

Jason: Greatquestion.Forme,youhavetoalsounderstandwhattype

ofpeopleyou’regoingafter.Mypeople,notjustmypeople,but

anybodythat’stypinginhow-to,youwanttobeaplayerinthe

spaceonYoutube,excuseme.I’mbreakingnumberoneortwofor

how-togetstartedinthestockmarket,orbeginnerstockmarket

course,orhowtotradeforbeginners.Anyofthatcombination,

I’mrankingfor,butifI’mnotrankingforit,Ialsopaytocomeup

inYoutubesearchforit.Idon’tnecessarily,thevideodoesn’t

necessarilyplay,buttheadwillshow,andifyouclickit,you

obviouslyhavetobeinterestedinhowtogetstartedasabeginner.

I’msoconfidentinthefreestuffIgiveawayasabeginner,when

youclickit,it’sreallyaminiversionofmywebinar.It’slikeyou’re

actuallywatchingthewebinaronYoutube,sointheeventthatyou

didn’tcometomethroughFacebookorcometomywebsiteand

register,you’rekindofwatchingthesamewebinaronYoutubeand

gettingthesamecalltoactionattheend.Thenwe’resellingaton

ofcoursesthatway.

Pat: Yeahman,that’sgreat,thankyouforthatinsight.Itseemslike

you’rekillingitonYoutube.I’mhereononeofyourvideosthat

youpostedlastyear,Ilookeduphowtotradeforbeginners,and

youwerelikethesecondonethatpoppedup.Acommentfroma

weekago,youmaynothaveevenseenthisyet,butitsays“This

wasthemosthelpfulvideotutorialI’vewatchedthusfar,Iactually

learnedsomething.Alotofbeginnervideosareconfusing,some

peopletalktoofast,don’texplainwhatthey’redoingwellenough.

Ilikethatyoutalkslowlyenoughinsimple,relatableterms.”It’s

exactlyeverythingthatyoumentioned,andyouknowthatthat’s

whatyou’regoodat,soyoucontinuetodothat.Almostathousand




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thumbsuponthisvideo,over100,000views,andmanthisYoutube

thingforyouisgreat.

Itlookslikeyouknowexactlywhatyou’redoinghere.Youhave

othervideoshereitlookslike,nearlyhalfamillionviews,or

sometimesevenmore.Congratsonthatman,itseemslikeyour

videosareahit,andI’mgoingtomakesurethatwelinktoyour

Youtubechannel,sothatpeoplecanseehowthey’redone,and

howpeoplearerespondingtothem,becauseIthinkthat’sgoingto

bereallyimportant.Ifsomebodywerewantingtogetstartedwith

adsonYoutube,maybetheyhaveaYoutubechannel,it’sdone

verywell,buttheyjustdon’tevenknowwhatoptionstheyhavefor

Youtube,howmuchwouldyourecommendtheygetstartedwith?

HowdoyouevengoaboutdoingadsonYoutube?

Jason: Youknow,soYoutubeunlikeFacebook,I’mgoingtotellyouright

now,itisnot...Theplatformitselfisnotasuserfriendly.

Pat: Isn’titthroughGoogleAdWords?

Jason: Yes,soyouactuallyhavetosetupaGoogleAdWordsaccount,and

thenyouhavetolinkyourYoutubeaccount,andthenyoucan.Then

insideofthat,it’slikethreelevelsdeep.Doyouwanttodoanin-

stream,doyouwanttodoasidepost,wheretheadpopsuponthe

side.Youkindofhavetogoacouplelevelsdeep,butIwillsaythis.

Numberone,youneedtocreateaGoogleAdWordsaccount,and

linkyourYoutubeaccount.Numbertwo,setabudget.$10aday,

somethinglikethat.Youtubehassomanyviewersthatit’sgoingto

burnthroughyourmoneyquickly,soyoudon’twanttocomeinwith

$100,$200adayifyoudon’treally,youdon’tknowifyourtargeting

isright.Youcanspare$10aday.Hopefullyyoucan,ifyoucan’t,go

downto$5aday.

What’sniceaboutYoutubeis,there’ssomanyusersonYoutube,

thatthecostperviewandcostperclickissolow.I’mpaying

about,somewhereaboutfivecentstotwelvecentsperclick,butif

they’reclickingit,it’ssomeonethat’sinterested,becausetheywere

searchingforwhatIteach.That$10orthat$5willtakeyouvery




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far.Youcan’tgetcaughtupinthewhole,howdoImeasuretheROI

immediately?Theydon’tjustclickandthengobuyyourproduct.

Theyclick,theysubscribetomychannel,theyseewhatother

videosIhave.Thentheycometothewebsite,jumpontheemail

list,thentheygethitwiththeemailthatsays“Hey,whatcanIhelp

youwith?CanIhelpyoube,”andthat’swhenit’slike,“Hey,Isaw

yourYoutubevideoman,sohelpful,canthisreallyworkforme?”

Or“Whatdoyouthinkaboutthis?”Thenwestartthatconversation.

Then,theyendupbecomingacustomer.IfyoujumponYoutube

andyouthink,I’mjustgoingtoputacouplehundredbucksonthis,

andallthesepeoplearegoingtobuy,it’smoreofafunneland

nurturingsystemthanitisinstantgratification.

Pat: Yeah,howdoyouorganizeyourfunnels?Thatwouldbethelast

questionhere,becausethisissuchgreatinformation,Ithinkit’s

goingtogetalotofpeople’sheadsspinningonwhatisreally

possibleoutthere.Howdoyoukeeptrackofallthosefunnels?I

thinkthisisoneofthebiggeststrugglesthatonlineentrepreneurs

have,becausethere’ssomanyplaceswhereyoucouldgetnew

traffic.Howareyouabletoorganizeallthisinyourhead?

Jason: Idon’tinmyhead.

Pat: MaybetakingitoutofyourheadisthebestoptionthenIguess.

Jason: Right,yougottohaveyouranalyticssetup.IhaveGoogleanalytics

setupeverywherethroughoutmysite,whetherthey’recomingfrom

Facebook,whetherthey’recomingfromYoutube,I’mabletocheck

thoseanalyticsandfindoutwheretheycomefrom.Whenyou

optintomyemaillist,itusuallysayssomewhere,tellushowyou

foundus,sothatwayIcanmeasure,isthiscomingfromYoutube,

isitcomingfromFacebook?Sometimesit’scomingfromTwitteror

LinkedIn,butmytwobiggesttrafficisYoutubeandFacebook.Also,

whenyoupurchaseacourse,onthebackenditalsomakesyoutell

us,wheredidyouhearaboutusfromaswell,soI’mactuallyhaving

themtypeinwheretheyheardaboutusfrom.Whetherthey’re

optingintotheemaillist,orwhethertheyarecomingtoregister,

purchasingacourse.ThenI’malsocheckingthoseanalyticstosee




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whodrovethemosttraffic.

ThenwhatIalsoliketodo,Iliketosetupdualpages.Ifyouclickto

comepurchasethecoursethroughYoutube,it’sthesamepage,but

it’sadifferentURL.IfyouclicktocomepurchasethroughFacebook,

it’sthesamepage,differentURL.Itallowsmetosee,didthey

purchasecomingthroughFacebook,didtheypurchasecoming

Youtube.

Pat: That’ssmart.

Jason: That’skindofthebigpictureofhowItrackit.Obviouslyyoucan

seeI’mtrackingsubscribes.I’moveramillionviews,I’mlookingat

comments,differentthingslikethataswell.

Pat: Howdidyoulearntodoallthis?

Jason: Pat,really,whenIsayselftaughtman,Ispentsomanyhourson

Youtube,onyourpage.ThereasonIhaveapodcastisbecauseof

yourtutorial,howtodoitwithLibsynandallthatstuff.Iliterallyjust,

Ididn’thave,eventhoughIwasaninvestor,right,Iwasinvesting

toquitmyjobanddostufflikethat.Itwasn’ttobuybigcarsor

stufflikethat,itwastogetmytimeback.WhenIsaythat,Isaythat

tosayIdidn’thavealotofmoneytojustgooutandpaypeople

todevelopmywebsite,paypeopletodoallthis.Ihadtoputin

sweatequity,soIwentandIlearnedallthisstuffmyself.Obviously

Iboughtacouplecoursesalongtheway,acouplehundreddollar

courseshereandthere,butmostofitwasprettymuchselftaught.

Thebeautyinthatis,I’vebeenthinkingaboutlike,Icanteach

peoplehowtobuildamultisixfigurebusinessfromhomewithall

theinformationIhaveaboutsystems,aboutwebinars,aboutads

now.That’sawholeanotherbusinessinthefuturethatIcanscale.

It’spayingdividendsinknowledgethatIlearneditmyself,instead

ofjustshortcuttingandoutsourcingit,andevenifIdooutsourceit

now,whichI’mnotatthemoment,Iknowwhattolookforandwho

tolookfor.Irunintosomanypeoplewhosay,“Icanhandleyour

socialmedia,”andIcanbelike,“Welltellme,whatareyouthinking?




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Whatareyoudoing?”Iknowmorethantheydo,soI’mlike,no,

youcan’thandlemysocialmedia.I’mokay.It’sreallyhelpedme

becomemoreknowledgeableabouttheindustry,andasmarter...

IfI’mgoingtohiresomebody,I’msmarteraboutwhoIwouldhire

now,becauseIknowsomuchabouttheindustryofmarketingnow,

onlinemarketing.

Pat: Jason,man,thankyousomuchforyourknowledge,your

inspiration,andjustyourhumbleness.Thisisreallycool.Everybody

checkoutJason,whereat?

Jason: Theycancheckmeoutatthebrownreport.com,that’smymain

website,andalsoonFacebook,thebrownreport.comaswell.

Pat: Thanksman,thankyousomuch,weappreciateyou,andbestof

luckwitheverything.

Jason: Pat,Iappreciateyouman,thanksforhavingme.

Pat: Thankyou.

Allright,IhopeyouenjoyedthatinterviewwithJasonfrom

thebrownreport.com.Youcancheckhimoutthere.Youcan

alsocheckouttheshownotesandallthelinksmentionedat

smartpassiveincome.com/session226.Jason,Iknowyou’re

listeningtothis,probablyalittlebittrippy,hearingyourownvoice

ontheshow,becauseIknowyou’veheardtheshowbefore,but

that’sawesome,Ilovethat.Ihopethat’sagoalforeverybody.I

knowpeoplewhohaveexplicitlytoldme,straightup,“Pat,mygoal

istobeasuccessstoryonyourshow.”Ilovethat.There’salwaysa

spotforyouguyshere,andobviously,Ionlydotheseshowsonce

aweek,butIpayattentiontotheactionthatyoutakeandIwantto

sharethosesuccesses.ThatIfeelissuperinspirational.

IloveinterviewingtheAlisters,right.TheTimFerrises,andthe

GaryVaynerchuksandtheLewisHowsesoftheworld,andAmy

Porterfield,andallthosekindsofpeople.They’reamazing,they

provideincredibleamountsofvalue,butIfeelthere’satonof




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valueinsharingthesuccessstoriesfromlistenersjustlikeyoutoo.

Please,keepmeintheloopwithyourprogress.I’malwayshere

tosharesuccessstories,andI’vegottenthousandsofemailsfrom

people,soit’sgoingtobealittlebitcompetitive,butI’mhereto

sharethoseamazingsuccessstories.Whenyoudoemailmewith

yoursuccessstory,talkyourselfup,talkyourselfup,that’sallI’m

goingtosay.

Thankyousomuch,Iappreciateyou.Ialsoappreciatetoday’s

sponsor,whichisinsightly.com.Insightlyisacustomerrelationship

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Thankyousomuch,Iappreciateyou,Ilookforwardtoseeingyou

overattheblogforcomments,orquestionsandlookforwardto

hearingyoursuccessstoriestoo.Thankyousomuch,Iappreciate

you,andIlookforwardtosharingnextweek’sepisode,whichis

goingtobeacompletelyuniqueepisode,somethingI’venever

donebefore,andit’sgoingtobereallycool.Itwasalotoffuntoput

together,andhopefullyyou’llloveit,socomebynextweekandlet

meknowwhatyouthink.Thankyousomuch,Iappreciateyou,take

care.Bye.

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