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At PyCon Ireland 2010, Paul described his experience of working with Python 3 in creating O'Reilly's Head First Programming and Head First Python (both of which target Python 3). As a big fan of Python 3, Paul suggested that all Python 2 programmers needed to at least try Python 3 as soon as was practical, if not embrace it for all "new" work. In this talk, Paul provides an update on the current status of Python 3 and discusses the community's adoption (or lack of) the latest version of the Python programming language, talking about what has changed in the year and a bit since last year, as well as describing his own experience of working with Python on recent consultancy projects.
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What's the scoop with Python 3?
Paul Barry – Institute of Technology, Carlow in Ireland
PyCon Ireland 2011
Grab the slides:
http://paulbarry.itcarlow.ie/Python3.pdf
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Start working withPython 3 now!
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It seems nobody was listening...
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So... what's the scoop?
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Despite going from strength-to-strength,Python 3 has yet to replace Python 2
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WTF?
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Despite being nearly 3 years old,Python 3 has yet to replace Python 2
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That's OK
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In the short-to-medium term,Python 3 wasn't meant to replace Python 2
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Not yet, anyway...
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I wonder are thecoffee refillsfree today?
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Which version ofPython
should I usetoday?
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Not an either-or decision
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What do the good folk at python.org have to say?
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“... if you're deploying to an environment you don't control, that may impose a specific version rather
than allowing you a free selection from the available versions.”
Point #1 - Use 2 instead of 3
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I recently worked on a project that unashamedly specified Python 2.6.4 as the target platform
(even though the work was XML-based)
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“... if you want to use a specific third party package or utility that doesn't yet have a released
version that is compatible with Python 3, and porting that package is a non-trivial task...”
Point #2 - Use 2 instead of 3
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Another project (wisely) selected Django asthe target web-dev platform... which meant more
work for me in Python 2.x
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“... if you wish to use an alternative implementation of Python such as IronPython,
Jython or PyPy...”
Point #3 - Use 2 instead of 3
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A third project specified the .NET platform,but didn't care which language I used...
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A third project specified the .NET platform,but didn't care which language I used...
I used IronPython and was restrictedto working with the 2.7 release of Python
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It's hard to get away fromPython 2...
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It's hard to get away fromPython 2...
… especially when Python 2.7 isn't half-bad
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So, like, dude... what's the problem?
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Eventually, 2.x won't cut it anymore...
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Python 2.x is
DEAD
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It will soon start to smell
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This talk's
BIGMESSAGE
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Your current 2.x codebase is now
LEGACY
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How can you saysuch a thing?
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At some point, you'll have to port allof your “current” 2.x code to Python 3
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Python 3 will soon become
THE DEFAULT
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This Is Your Future:
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Imagine if this was to happen with someother distribution or OS...?!?
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Prevailing attitudes towards Python 3
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I'll just ignoreit and it'llgo away.
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Ignore the future at your
PERIL
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Whatever were they thinking?Sure, the print statement
doesn't even work!!!
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The print statement in 2.x is
BROKEN
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There's no goodPython 3 specific books out there.
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This is all rubbish! We'll just keepwriting 2.x code
FOREVER...
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You are in
DENIAL
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Be honest... there'snot one single feature
that demands theupgrade, right?
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UNICODE
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Look – we can'tdo anything until thoseguys over there update
their code...
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Look – we can'tdo anything until thoseguys over there update
their code... I agree - let'sdo nothing.
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If you do
NOTHINGyou are in
DENIAL
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I'm back where I started
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Start working withPython 3 now!
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Start your Python 3porting effort now!
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Your love lifedepends on it!!!
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I really do love you...
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That's nice. But, I'dlove you more if onlyyou'd port your code
to Python 3.
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Final question to those of youthat think you can “survive”
with Python 2.x
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How many of you are still supportingPython 1.x code?
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Questions?
