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Security and shizzle Monday, 11 November 13

DevOpsDay London Ben Hughes Security

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Security and shizzle

Monday, 11 November 13

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Whom be this?

• Ben Hughes, security monkey at Etsy.• Bullet point fanatic.• Terrible at slides.• Shout out to the Etsy security team.

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It’s a tale of two halves

• Security, where did it all go wrong?• Don’t go alone, take this!

• Security-devops-maybe-DBAs-too-oh and-QA-sure-who-else?

• I quite like Etsy, here’s why.

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Security, where did it all go wrong?

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Wait, but we bought a firewall!

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They’re coming out of the walls

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teh cloudz• AWS logo goes here.• Maybe not in AWS... (other cloudiness

vendors may be available)

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But we’re secure, right?

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But we’re secure, right?

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The Watering hole attacks of Feb

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Other than the occasional RCE/SQLi or 0-day, companies just aren’t getting breached directly through their servers like they used to.

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I’d buy that for a dollar[laptop:~]% iduid=501(ben) gid=20(staff) groups=20(staff)[laptop:~]% ./magic [*] running old exploit against unpatched OSX. [*] firing off connect back shell to AWS. [*] throwing mad persistence in to LaunchAgents. [*] dropping to a shell.[laptop:~]# iduid=0(root) gid=0(root)

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Zero [cool] day• Zero day is bad!

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Surprise!• You can’t defend against unknown

attacks.• Clue is in the name.

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Rejoice. That mostly doesn’t matter!

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Treat the symptoms• Lateral movement can be more

important than how they got in.• You don’t care that they broke a

window, you care that they got in your living room and took your TV.

• (still fix your window)

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Hudson hawk reference• Why is /bin/sh running on your

webserver?• Why is your webserver trying to SSH to

other hosts?• Why is the Cold Fusion process reading

arbitrary files off of disk (SE/NSA Linux time)

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But still patch• Please, still patch things.• Know that it isn’t a panacea.• Realise that is okay.

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Please do patch!

• No really!

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Logs are your eyes.

“If it’s not monitored... ...it’s not in production”

Well“If it’s not logged, did it really happen?”

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You have a limited number of eyes.

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Alerts

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Two factor all the things•Duo - https://www.duosecurity.com/•Authy - https://www.authy.com/•Google - http://goo.gl/hvre2D•YubiKey - https://www.yubico.com/

Hat tip to Jan Schaumann (@jschauma),from whom I stole the title of this slide from.

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Duo and Yubikeysvvbrc

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Pen Testing• Don’t pay someone else to tell you to

patch things.• Don’t pay someone to run Nessus.• Hire more security people before paying

for pen-tests.• Attack simulations are better. http://

bit.ly/attacksims

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Attack simulations?• Everything in scope.

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Attack simulations?• Everything in scope.• Don’t have security run it.

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Attack simulations?• Everything in scope.• Don’t have security run it.• Don’t block on fragility.

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Transparency!• Invite people to the brief.• Don’t just expect a PDF.• Treat it as a postmortem.• Come out of it with a set of actions.

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Game days.• Ops’ “game day” simulations, but for

security.

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Phishing• Who’s stopped phishing?

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Phishing• Who’s stopped phishing?• You’re not going to stop phishing.

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Phishing• Who’s stopped phishing?• You’re not going to stop phishing.• That doesn’t matter.

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Phishing• Who’s stopped phishing?• You’re not going to stop phishing.• That doesn’t matter.• Don’t think you can fully eliminate it, get

it reported instead.

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Intermission.

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New, Improved Devops

• Silo smashing in to one new larger silo!

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DevSecOpsFarmerQueen• Many hats.• Not just dev.• Not just ops.

• Security doesn’t justmagically happen.

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Get security involved!• This can be done is all sized

environments!• Small - having someone who has a security background or

interest.

• Large - ”Chris Eng & Ryan O’Boyle – From the Trenches: Real-World Agile SDLC” - http://nsc.is/presentation/chris-eng-ryan-oboyle-from-the-trenches-real-world-agile-sdlc/

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Security are people too!

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Security are people too!• they just might not always act like it...• security is the only area of technology

with genuine adversaries.

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Infosec, this one’s for you• Dev and ops (and everyone else) are

people too.• They made those decisions without

malice in mind.• People don’t go out of their way to

make things insecure!

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Primary action items• Don’t just say “did you speak to security

about this?”• Get people involved!• Security has never [succesfully] been a

check box.

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Reducing barriers.Having an approachable security team is the most important thing they can do.

The second you lose the ability to talk to them about anything, you effectively lose your security team.

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So, that party you mentioned?• Skill sharing.

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So, that party you mentioned?• Hack week.

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So, that party you mentioned?• Boot camping.

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Borrowing from the devops.• Tests!

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Borrowing from the devops.• Tests!• Test your code and your infrastructure.

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Borrowing from the devops.• Tests!• Test your code and your infrastructure.• Wait, someone already gave this talk:http://www.slideshare.net/nickgsuperstar/devopssec-apply-devops-principles-to-security/32

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Stop saying “No!”

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So finally• The most important thing that we do as

a security team is...• Humility.

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So finally• The most important thing that we do as

a security team is...• Humility.• Security isn’t everything. People are rad.

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Fin

<golden axe screen shot>

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