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2007 Carlsbad Conference presentation of "The Dead Sea Scrolls and Fulfilled Eschatology" - To be used in conjunction with Audio Tapes available from http://www.preterist.org/preteristbookstore.asp#Audio_MP3sEd Stevens - "Todd Dennis' presentation on the implications of the Dead Sea Scrolls for Preterism was superb! It was material I have not seen any preterist ever deal with. That one lesson is worth the price of the whole set! "

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Todd Dennis PreteristArchive.com

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San Diego Preterist Fellowship

3:30pm Sundays Vista, California

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Dead Sea Dead Sea ScrollsScrolls

…and Fulfilled Eschatology…and Fulfilled Eschatology

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Theo-Political Establishment & OppositionTheo-Political Establishment & Opposition

Shatter Points in Controversies :

• Establishment Power

• Opposition Movements

• Peaceful Caught in Middle

Shatter Points in Controversies :

• Establishment Power

• Opposition Movements

• Peaceful Caught in Middle

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American Apocalyptic MovementAmerican Apocalyptic Movement

JANET RENO

John AshcroftJohn Ashcroft

Collecting and Remitting Taxes to the Government

Tax-Exempt vs. Tax Immune

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Dangers of American Establishment Mixing Theology and Politics

Theo-Political Establishment

With Theo-Political Establishment, Compromises go way of Politics

• Yields Accumulation of Power, Wealth and Property• Endless Compromises with Enemies and Impious• Systematic Persecution of Opposition Groups

Opposition Movements Steadily Grow in Anger and Aggressiveness

• Begin to Entrench in Positions of Opposition• Start Collaborating with Likeminded Groups• Ever Increasing Threat to Establishment• Leading to Inevitable Clash of Forces

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“The Poor” Challenging Power & Authority

palm branch

• Political Tensions Against Jesus’ “Authority”• Collaboration with Rome so “Nation Perish Not”• Public Evocation of “Eschatological Rain” Imagery

“Hereafter shall you see the Son of man sitting on the right hand

of power and coming in the clouds of heaven”

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Dead Sea ScrollsOpposition Apocalyptic Press

Dead Sea ScrollsOpposition Apocalyptic Press

“Raining Judgment on all the Evil Ones”

“Raining Judgment on all the Evil Ones”

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Discovered between 1947 and 1956 in eleven caves near ruins of ancient

settlement of Khirbet Qumran

Discovered between 1947 and 1956 in eleven caves near ruins of ancient

settlement of Khirbet Qumran

DSS Overview

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Approx. 850 DocumentsIncluding Hebrew Bible

Texts, Commentaries and Other Fragments

DSS Overview

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Where Did Scrolls Come From?Where Did Scrolls Come From?

• Establishment vs. Opposition Scholarship• Were All From a “Qumran Sect” ? Essenes ?• Could Some Have Come From Fleeing Christians ?

• Establishment vs. Opposition Scholarship• Were All From a “Qumran Sect” ? Essenes ?• Could Some Have Come From Fleeing Christians ?

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Commonalities Among Various Groups

• Pious Jews, Not Simply Villians of Josephus• Hated the Herodian Collaborators• Wicked Abominations of Religion• Temple Practices Akin to “Strange Fire”• Despised Their Looting of the Poor• Saw All As Signs of the “End of Days”• Determined to Oppose to the Last

• Pious Jews, Not Simply Villians of Josephus• Hated the Herodian Collaborators• Wicked Abominations of Religion• Temple Practices Akin to “Strange Fire”• Despised Their Looting of the Poor• Saw All As Signs of the “End of Days”• Determined to Oppose to the Last

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Results For Opposition :Jewish Temple DestroyedResults For Opposition :

Jewish Temple Destroyed

Roman Legions enter and destroy religious center, taking its treasures to Rome.

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Days of Visitation

Federal Marshals enter ; seize buildings and 22 acres of land, valued at $6 million.

Results For Opposition :Baptist Temple DestroyedResults For Opposition :

Baptist Temple Destroyed

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THE BURNT HOUSE

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Three Approaches

1) Collaborate with Establishment• Benefits of Power and Riches

2) Be A Zealot to Overthrow• Short-Lived Moral Benefits

3) Live in Peace and Rest as Able• “Come Out of Her, and Be Ye Separate”

- Beware of Seducers Trying to Influence Approach• False Prophets in Establishment Groups

• False Prophets in Opposition Groups too..

1) Collaborate with Establishment• Benefits of Power and Riches

2) Be A Zealot to Overthrow• Short-Lived Moral Benefits

3) Live in Peace and Rest as Able• “Come Out of Her, and Be Ye Separate”

- Beware of Seducers Trying to Influence Approach• False Prophets in Establishment Groups

• False Prophets in Opposition Groups too..

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First Century Judean Christians Identified with

Opposition, But Didn’t Join

First Century Judean Christians Identified with

Opposition, But Didn’t Join

“Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp, bearing his reproach.”

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James and the Jerusalem ChurchBiblical, Historical, and Potential DSS Witness of James

“Come now, you rich, weep and howl for your

miseries which are coming upon you. …It is in the last days that you

have stored up your treasure!” (5:1,3)

“You too be patient;

strengthen your hearts, for the coming of the

Lord is at hand.. behold, the judge standeth before

the door.” (James. 5:7,9)

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Similar Rhetoric in Scrolls

• Some Have Suggested Direct Correlation

PESHER NAHUM (4QpNah = 4Q169) Translation by J. Allegro, from DJD V, 1968

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The “Coming of God“Associated with the Fall of Jerusalem

The “Coming of God“Associated with the Fall of Jerusalem

Primary Witness to the Truth of the Gospel: A Series of Discourses, Also A Charge on Modern... By Charles Wordsworth

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James’ Opposition Role

a Threat to Theo-Political Ruler

Ananus

Taken to the “Pinnacle of the

Temple” 215 Feet High

Book 5 of Hegessipus

James’ Opposition Role

a Threat to Theo-Political Ruler

Ananus

Taken to the “Pinnacle of the

Temple” 215 Feet High

Book 5 of Hegessipus

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Cast Down 215 Feet From

“The Pinnacle of the Temple”

&After Surviving the Fall Was

Beaten to Death With a Club While

Praying

Book 5 of Hegessipus

Cast Down 215 Feet From

“The Pinnacle of the Temple”

&After Surviving the Fall Was

Beaten to Death With a Club While

Praying

Book 5 of Hegessipus

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"To the place of trumpeting" Indicate where priests would stand to Blow the trumpet to begin the Sabbath

Southeast CornerStone discovered by Benjamin Mazar (1968)

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THE BEGINNING OF THE ENDProdigies During Festival Season of AD66

“There will be terrors and signs from heaven” Jesus, Luke 21:11

“There will be terrors and signs from heaven” Jesus, Luke 21:11

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Thus were the miserable people persuaded by deceivers, they did not attend, nor give credit, to the signs that did so plainly foretell their future desolation; but, without

either eyes to see or minds to consider, did not regard the denunciations that God made to them. De Bell. Jud. 6, 5, 3

Festival Season of AD66

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“While the people were assembling for the Feast of Unleavened Bread, at the ninth hour of the night [3:00 A. M.] so bright a light shone round the altar and Temple that it looked like broad daylight; and this lasted for half an hour. The inexperienced regarded it as a good omen, but it was immediately interpreted by the sacred scribes in conformity with subsequent events.” (Josephus VI-V-3)

Festival Season of AD66

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Thus there was a star resembling a sword, which stood over the city, and a comet, that continued a whole year

De Bell. Jud. 6, 5, 3

Festival Season of AD66

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"Before sunset were seen around the whole country chariots poised in the air, and armed battalions

speeding through the clouds and investing the cities.“ (Traill's Josephus, page 197)

Festival Season of AD66

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Festival Season of AD66

"During the Festival called Pentecost, the

Priests having come by night into the Inner

temple to perform their services, as was their custom, reported that

they perceived a quaking and noise, and after that a voice as of a multitude,

Let us depart hence.”De Bell. Jud. l. 6, 31. Histories, Book 5, v. 13

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Christian Flight to Pella

Christian Flight to Pella

Historically Substantiates Preterist view as early Christian interpretation (cf. Matthew 24:16).

Historically Substantiates Preterist view as early Christian interpretation (cf. Matthew 24:16).

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Gallus 10/66Vespasian 67-68

Titus 67-70

AUGUST 66

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Mapped on “Google World”Christian Flight to Pella

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100 Miles http://earth.imagico.de Christian Flight to Pella

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Christian Flight to Pella

From Jerusalem, 2,500 feet above sea level, to Jordan, 1,300 feet below sea level

From Jerusalem, 2,500 feet above sea level, to Jordan, 1,300 feet below sea level

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Christian Flight to Pella

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Christian Flight to Pella

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Christian Flight to Pella

Sole DSS Greek FragmentsPossible Christian Deposits / Martyrs Along Route

CAVE 7CAVE 7

17 Greek Fragments in Cave 7

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Qumran overrun by Vespasian in AD 68 // Earliest existing NT fragments by 100 years.

Greek Fragments Discovered in Cave 7

JOHN A.T. ROBINSON’S DATES

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"7Q5 = Mark 6:52-53"

Christian Flight to Pella

CURIOSTIY OF CAVE 7

• Exodus (7Q1)• Jeremiah (7Q2)• Mark (7Q5) • Enoch (7Q3)• Second Peter• NT Jude

• Possible depository on "Pella Flight“ of the very community in which the biblical writer Jude lived and ministered. 

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Christian Flight to Pella

Cave 7 Collapsed, Remains Closed Despite 1993 Promise of Re-Excavation

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Well Developed Fulfilled Eschatology

Earliest Known “Preterist Commentaries”

Preterist Christianity of Today United with 1st Century Groups of James and the

DSS Authors

Preterist Christianity of Today United with 1st Century Groups of James and the

DSS Authors

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Interpretations of 1st C. Opposition

Foresaw the Coming DesolationUsed History and Scripture For Proof

MAIN POINTS OF UNITY

• 1. Romans are the “End Times” Enemy• 2. The High Priesthood Hopelessly Apostate• 3. 1st Cent. “End of Days” & Final Generation• 4. Jerusalem Desolated & Temple Abominated

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#1 Point of UnityRomans - “End-Time” Enemy

#1 Point of UnityRomans - “End-Time” Enemy

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Rome as “Kittim”

"The next line begins, "Its interpretation concerns the Kittim...." The modern theory had already been propounded by interpretation by the ancient community two thousand years earlier!" - John C. Trever, The Untold Story of Qumran

"The next line begins, "Its interpretation concerns the Kittim...." The modern theory had already been propounded by interpretation by the ancient community two thousand years earlier!" - John C. Trever, The Untold Story of Qumran

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Roma Victor?

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Madness, Blood, Lust, Raw Power And the angel said to me, Wherefore did you marvel?

Madness, Blood, Lust, Raw Power And the angel said to me, Wherefore did you marvel?

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#1 – Romans as “Kittim”

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Habakkuk Commentary – 1QpHab

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#2 Point of UnityApostate Establishment

#2 Point of UnityApostate Establishment

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#2 Establishment Apostate

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WRITTEN BY THE TEACHER OF

RIGHTEOUSNESS ?

“because of] violence and fornication [some] places have been destroyed.  [Further,] it is writt[en in the Book of Moses,] 'You [are no]t to bring the abomination t[o your house, because] the abomination is despised (by God).' 

• [Now, you know that] we broke with the majority of the peo[ple and refused] to mix or go along wi[th them] on these matters.  You also k[now that] no rebellion or Lying or Evil [should be] found in His Temple.  It is because of [these things w]e present [these words] [and (earlier) wrot]e to you, so that you will understand the Book of Moses [and the words of the Pr]ophets

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COPPER SCROLL:Proof of Apostasy?

Discovered in Cave 3

64 underground hiding places

Massive Temple Wealth - Gold, Silver, Aromatics, and Manuscripts.

Certain to be treasures from the Temple hidden for safekeeping.

Incense and Ashes of Red Heifer

"In the cave that is next to the fountain belonging to the House of Hakkoz, dig six cubits. (There are) six bars of gold"

#2 Establishment Apostate

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#3 Point of Unity“End of Days“ – Last Generation

#3 Point of Unity“End of Days“ – Last Generation

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Pesher Habakkuk – 1QpHab

"Peshru about the priests of Jerusalem.  The final (end time) ones who gather up

wealth and take a cut from the spoils from the peoples and for the "Last

Days" they give their wealth with spoil into the hands of The Roman army. "

(Moellerhaus Translation)

"Peshru about the priests of Jerusalem.  The final (end time) ones who gather up

wealth and take a cut from the spoils from the peoples and for the "Last

Days" they give their wealth with spoil into the hands of The Roman army. "

(Moellerhaus Translation)

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• "..from the day of the gathering in of the unique teacher, until the destruction of all the men of war who turned back with the man of lies, there shall be about forty years." (xx, 14-15)

• "I will stare at his place and he will no longer be there. Its interpretation concerns all the evil at the end of the forty years, for they shall be devoured.." (Commentary on Ps 37:10, 4QPsalms Pesher [4Q17, ii, 6-8]).

Damascus Document

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"And we recognize that some of the blessings and curses have

come, those written in the Bo[ok of Mo]ses; therefore this

is the End of Days“

"And we recognize that some of the blessings and curses have

come, those written in the Bo[ok of Mo]ses; therefore this

is the End of Days“

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“therefore this is the End of Days"

4QMMT

“Terminology used in Palestine from the 40s to the 60s"

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“Jerusalem” By William Blake“Jerusalem” By William Blake

#4 Point of Unity Jerusalem, Temple to be Desolated

#4 Point of Unity Jerusalem, Temple to be Desolated

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Pesher HabukkukThe city is Jerusalem in

which the wicked priest did works of abomination and defiled

the Temple of God."

lQpHab 12.7-9

USING OVERT REFERENCES TO JERUSALEM

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COVERT REFERENCES TO JERUSALEM

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Temple Priesthood Foresaw

Zacharias Chapter 11:1 in Douay-Rheims Bible (1586)“Destruction of Jerusalem and the temple”

Open thy gates, O Libanus, and let fire devour thy cedars.   O Libanus. . .So Jerusalem, and more particularly the temple, is called by the prophets, from its

being built of the cedars of Libanus.

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Even Josephus PreteristicBEFORE AND AFTER AD70 : SPOKEN AND WRITTEN

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Jeremiah Lamenting the destruction of JerusalemBy Rembrandt van Rijn

Jeremiah Lamenting the destruction of JerusalemBy Rembrandt van Rijn

• Romans Were End-Time Enemy

• Collaborating Establishment Was Apostate

• They Were in the Last Days and the Final Generation

• Jerusalem and Temple Were Desolated

• Romans Were End-Time Enemy

• Collaborating Establishment Was Apostate

• They Were in the Last Days and the Final Generation

• Jerusalem and Temple Were Desolated

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Nevertheless..

Tabaqat Fahil

• Obedient Christians Did Flee• They Were Vindicated in Fulfillment• Christ Did Become Ruler of All Nations• Workers of Iniquity Still Being Exposed…

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Jerusalem a Rejoicing

• In that day it shall be said to Jerusalem, Fear thou not: and to Zion, Let not thine hands be slack. The LORD thy God in the midst of thee is mighty; he will save, he will rejoice over thee with joy; he will rest in his love, he will joy over thee with singing. (Zeph 3:17-18)

"The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree”"The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree” Ps. 92

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Old Seeds of Life Unearthed

Seeds Are Found in Old Places

Sprout after Planting in Soil

Will Generate With Watering