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Faith Beyond Fundamentalism & Anti-Fundamentalism:

where do we go from here?

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Four Stages in the Journey of Faith

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Sea anemones at 88 feet, natural light

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Same sea anemones at 88 feet, with full spectrum light

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Your available light depends onyour depth or stage of ascent.

What you see depends on your available light.

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Four Stages on the Journey

of Faith

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Is this normal?

What should I expect next?

Are we there yet?

Will this be on the test?

Why do I need to learn this?

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stages

levels

zones

turnings

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William Blake - innocence, experiences, higher experience

Soren Kierkegaard - aesthetic, ethical, religious

William Perry - dualism (a,b), multiplicity (a,b), relativism (a,b), commitment (a,b,c)

James Fowler - primal, mythical-literal, synthetic-conventional, individual-reflective, conjunctive,

universalizing

Graves/Beck/Wilber - archaic-instinctive, animist/tribal, ego-centric-exploitive, absolutist -authoritarian, scientific strategic, relativistic-

personalistic - communitarian; systemic-integral, holistic

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Four Stages of Faith

Development

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Stage 1

Simplicity

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Stage 1

Simplicity

You’re either for us or against us. It’s all or nothing.

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Stage 1

SimplicityFocus: Right or wrong? Good or bad?Motive: Pleasing authority figures, being an insider “us”Perception: Dualistic

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Stage 1Beliefs

-everything is known or knowable; there are easy answers to every question-good authorities/us are the ones who know the right answers-the bad guys/them are wrong

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Stage 1

AuthoritiesGodlike, God’s representatives, they know and give answers

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Stage 1

SimplicityLife is a war.

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Stage 1

Identity: In my leader or group.Relationships: Dependent or co-

dependent

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Stage 1

SimplicityGod is …

The Ultimate Authority Figureor Ultimate Friend

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Stage 1

SimplicitySTRENGTHS: highly committed, willing to sacrifice and suffer.WEAKNESSES: May be willing to inflict suffering or kill. Arrogant, simplistic, combative, judgmental, intolerant

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Stage 1

Simplicity

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Stage 2

Complexity

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Stage 2

ComplexityThere’s more than one way to do things.

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Stage 2Complexity

Focus: Effective or ineffective? Technique, winning, successMotive: Reach goals, being effectivePerception: Pragmatic

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Stage 2

Beliefs:-anything is doable

-there are many ways to reach the goal

-authorities/us are the ones who know how to do it

-the bad guys don’t do the right stuff

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Stage 2

AuthoritiesCoaches. They help you grow and succeed with know-how.

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Stage 2

Complexity

Life is a game.Learn the rules.

Play to win.

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Stage 2

Complexity

Identity: My cause or achievement.Relationships: Increasingly independent.

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Stage 2

ComplexityGod is …

The Ultimate Guide or Coach

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Stage 2

ComplexitySTRENGTHS: Enthusiasm, idealism, actionWEAKNESSES: Superficial, naïve, overly pragmatic

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Stage 2

Complexity

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Stage 3

Perplexity

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Stage 3

PerplexityEveryone has an opinion. Who knows who is right?

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Stage 3

PerplexityFocus: Honest or dishonest? Authentic or inauthentic?Motive: Being honest or authenticPerception: Relativistic, critical

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Stage 3

Beliefs-little/nothing is known or

knowable; everybody has an opinion

-good people are honest about their questions

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Stage 3

Authorities are ...ControllersThe Enemy

Trying to impose easy answers on the naïve

Trying to use the naive

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Stage 3

PerplexityLife is …

a jokemystery

or search

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Stage 3

Identity: In solitude, or among a small band of similarly alienated friends

Relationships: Counter-dependent

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Stage 3

PerplexityGod is …

mythic authority I’ve outgrownmysterious reality I’m seeking

or opiate of the pathetic masses

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Stage 3

PerplexitySTRENGTHS: depth, honesty, sensitivity to suffering, perhaps ironic humorWEAKNESSES: cynical, uncommitted, withdrawn, critical, depressed, elitist

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Stage 3

Perplexity

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Stage 4

Humility/Harmony

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Stage 4

Humility/HarmonySeek first God’s kingdom … love God, love neighbors … in essentials unity … focus on a few grand essentials

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Stage 4

Humility/HarmonyFocus: Wise or unwise? Fulfilling potentialMotive: Serve, contribute, make a differencePerception: Integrated, synthesizing, sympathetic

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Stage 4

Beliefs-some things are known, many are mysteries; life is a quest

-there is no “them”

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Stage 4

Authoritiespeople like me

imperfectsometimes doing their best,

sometimes dishonest,sometimes sincerely misguided

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Stage 4

Life is ...What you make it (with God’s

help)

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Stage 4

Identity: In mutual relationships

Relationships: Interdependent

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Stage 4

God is ...Knowable in part, yet mysterious, present yet transcendent, just yet merciful(able to hold truths in tension -- “paradoxy”)

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Stage 4

Humility/HarmonySTRENGTHS: May exhibit strengths of previous stages, plus stability, endurance, wisdomWEAKNESSES: May display weaknesses of earlier stages

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Stage 4

Humility/Harmony

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Stage 1

Simplicity

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Stage 2

Complexity

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Stage 3

Perplexity

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Stage 4

Humility/Harmony

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Doubt occurs at margins.

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An observation:

Cults and “bad faith” or “toxic” religion can be seen as groups

which require people to revert to a Stage 1 status and stay there.

Stage 1 is easier for the leaders and followers … in a way.

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An observation:

Whole denominations or parachurch organizations seem to specialize in certain stages, and fail people in

other stages.

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An observation:

Leaders seldom (never?) lead people in a stage beyond their own.

1’s lead 1’s.

2’s lead 2’s and 1’s.

3’s lead 3’s and 2’s.

4’s lead 4’s and 3’s (plus?)

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An observation:

Stage 3 is tough on everybody -- leaders and followers.

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An observation:

Jesus models working with people in each stage, and always brings

them farther on the journey.

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A question:

How do we minister to people with such contrary expectations, needs,

issues, and desires?

A direction:

Explore Jesus as teacher … not just in content, but also in method.

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An important reminder

The goal isn’t to rush through the stages to get to 4 as soon as

possible.

Each stage has lessons to teach, and prepares for the next.

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disciple \Dis*ci"ple\, n. [OE. disciple, deciple, OF. disciple, fr. L. discipulus, fr. discere to learn (akin to docere to teach; see Docile) + prob. a root meaning to turn or drive, as in L. pellere to drive (see Pulse).] One who receives instruction from another; a scholar; a learner; especially, a follower who has learned to believe in the truth of the doctrine of his teacher; an adherent in doctrine; as, the disciples of Plato; the disciples of our Savior

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We need churches and ministries that help people at all levels ...

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Stage 0

Egocentricity

It’s all about me.

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Stage 0

EgocentricityFocus: Like or dislike? Fun or not?Motive: Pleasing & comforting myselfPerception: Narcissistic

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Stage 0

Beliefs-I would be constantly happy if everyone would cooperate-authorities exist to make me feel good-bad people make me feel bad

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Stage 0

AuthoritiesExist for my benefit, serve my entitlement, are genii-like.

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Stage 0

EgocentricityLife is play or party.

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Stage 0

Identity: In my likes and dislikes.Relationships: Presumptive

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Stage 0

EgocentricityGod is …

The Candyman, the Genii, the Magic Lamp

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Stage 0

1 line of reasoning:does it make me feel good or bad?

do i “like” it?

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Stage 0

EgocentricitySTRENGTHS: emotionally expressive, transparent, aware of own needs and desires.WEAKNESSES: Largely oblivious to the needs and desires of others

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Stage 0Egocentricity

Connection through need.

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Thoughts on “speaking simplicity”

1. Be strong. If it’s “your turf,” own it hospitably. If it’s neutral turf, stand as a peer. If it’s their turf, request respect. Affirm rules and boundaries. Be clear and simple.

2. Be spiritual. Demonstrate your spiritual aliveness. Pray. Quote a Bible verse.

3. Differ with courage and grace. “I see that differently ... We see that differently ...

4. Model stage 2 skill by setting up steps, ground rules, other “norming” patterns. (e.g. 4 lunches)

5. Build a relationship offline. Ask their stories. Share yours.

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6. Take a bold stand - and justify it using justice, compassion, purity, tradition, and loyalty. Challenge boldly - “I would have a lot more respect for your stand if ...”

7. Own “problems.” I have a moral problem ... I have an ethical problem ... I have a responsibility ...

8. Lend books to discuss.

9. Remember - it’s about belonging, and money.

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6. Take a bold stand - and justify it using justice, compassion, purity, tradition, and loyalty. Challenge boldly - “I would have a lot more respect for your stand if ...”

7. Own “problems.” I have a moral problem ... I have an ethical problem ... I have a responsibility ...

8. Lend books to discuss.

9. Remember - it’s about belonging, and money.

10. Love them. Even if they “go Constantine” on you.

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From selfish to true self

0. Egocentricity - One (me!)1. Simplicity - Two (us/them)2. Complexity - Three or more3. Perplexity - Fractions4. Harmony - One (all)

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Four Stages in the

journey of faith

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SIMPLICITY

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COMPLEXITY

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PERPLEXITY

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HARMONY

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Four Stages on the Journey

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