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Community Child Health research group | Murdoch Childrens Research Institute located at The Royal Children’s Hospital Centre for Community Child Health The meaning of ‘evidence’ in the child and family services field Myfanwy McDonald & Tim Moore

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Page 1: Dr. Myfanwy McDonald, Centre for Community Child Health, Murdoch Children’s Research Institute, The Royal Children's Hospital, Melbourne - The meaning of 'evidence' in the child

Community Child Health research group | Murdoch Childrens Research Institute

located at The Royal Children’s Hospital Centre for Community Child Health

The meaning of ‘evidence’ in the child and family services field

Myfanwy McDonald & Tim Moore

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The elephant in the room: CRFAA

The conference-related Friday afternoon

affect

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Posing questions rather than providing

answers

“Questions are more

transformative than

answers… Questions

create the space for

something new to

emerge… Answers…

while satisfying, shut down

the discussion.” Peter Block

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The focus of our work

Early intervention

Universal prevention

Source: Protecting Children is Everyone’s Business (2009)

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Why is the question of evidence

important?

• Programs and initiatives designed to improve

outcomes for children often have only modest effects

- or they don’t work at all so

• We need to have a better understanding about what

works in order that our resources are more effectively

and efficiently utilised and for this

• We need evidence to demonstrate what works and

• We need evidence derived from rigorous, valid,

reliable research designs but

• There are inherent challenges in this

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Questions guiding this

presentation

• What are the challenges?

• Is there a new way (or ways) of

thinking about the issues pertaining

to evidence?

• Where might we go from here?

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Outline

• Highlight 3 issues:

1. getting the evidence we need

2. implementation

3. ‘program-centred’ mindset

• Highlight some questions for each

• Some concluding considerations

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Issue 1: Getting the evidence we need

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Why are Cochrane reviews so

boring?

“Five thousand (mostly) high-quality

Cochrane reviews notwithstanding, the

troubling aspect of this enterprise is not

the few narrow questions that the

reviews answer but the many broad

ones they leave unanswered...

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“... The reason why Cochrane reviews

are boring — and sometimes

unimplementable in practice — is that the

technical process of stripping away all but

the bare bones of a focused experimental

question removes what practitioners and

policymakers most need to engage with:

the messy context in which people get ill,

seek health care (or not), receive and

take treatment (or not), and change their

behaviour (or not).”

Greenhalgh, 2013

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What is the real problem?

• The people doing the research

aren’t asking the right questions?

• The evidence isn’t translated in a

way that can be utilised in practice?

• We’re trying to bring order to a

phenomenon that something that is

fundamentally chaotic / disorganised

(i.e. the ‘messy’ context)?

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Issue 2: Implementing the findings

of research

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The rise of Implementation Science

• Deliberate, purposeful attempt to

implement evidence-based interventions

into practice

• Typically involves a purveyor who

oversees the process of implementation

• Balancing fidelity with flexibility –

delivering it as intended, adapting it to the

unique context

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Challenges of Implementation

• In organisations with no capacity for

ongoing implementation, whose

responsibility is it to keep up to date with

the evidence?

• Practitioners?

• Managers?

• Organisational level?

• Where does the boundary between

fidelity and flexibility lie? Who makes the

decision?

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Alternatives to Implementation Science

• Continuous Quality Improvement (CQI):

• The point at which practitioners are engaged is

at the point a problem is identified

• Working through the problem together

• Using ‘localised’ data

• Rapid implementation of a practice change

• Review outcomes

• Adjust as required

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So what?

• Is one approach superior?

• Challenges with CQI, e.g.,:

• may encourage a focus on small practice

issues rather than child and family outcomes

• Is one more suited to the ‘messy’ context of

practice?

• Which one should be used when?

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Issue 3: The ‘program-centred’

mindset

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The ‘program-centred’ mindset

• Focusing on programs as the ‘answer’ to poor

outcomes amongst children and families

• Program centred mindset as opposed to a

focus on:

- Process: how programs are delivered (rather

than what program is delivered)

- Surrounding contextual factors (e.g. service

system structure, community environments,

government policies)

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Why do we like programs?

• Programs are easier to evaluate using gold

standard methodologies

• The evidence therefore is easy to interpret

and compare

• We don’t have the resources / time / capacity

to focus on the bigger issues (e.g. government

policies that impact negatively upon families)

• It’s not our role to focus on the bigger issues

• Touching upon the bigger issues is risky –

who will we get ‘offside’

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Questions

• Could it be that programs have typically moderate

effects because of the impact of surrounding contextual

factors?

• If we continue to focus on programs rather than

processes and broader contextual factors will they only

ever have moderate effects?

• Whose role is it to address the broader contextual

issues that impact upon children and families? Child and

family services? NGOs? Policy-makers? Government?

Advocacy groups?

• How much is the nature of the evidence (and our views

about ‘gold standard’ evidence) driving our interest in

programs?

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Where might we go from here?

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For research synthesis projects

• A ‘realist approach’ to research synthesis:

• systematic reviews of RCTs and

• broad based review of research, theory,

practice-based evidence from a range of

different disciplines

• Doesn’t discount the importance of gold

standard evidence but also takes into

account a broader range of ‘evidence’

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Questions for consideration

• How else can we make research more

relevant to practitioners and policy-makers?

How to bridge the gap between science and the

‘messy context’?

• What role should practitioners play in:

• identifying the problems?

• coming up with ‘localised’ solutions?

• How do we keep processes and broader

contextual factors ‘on the table’? Whose

responsibility is that?

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Contact details

Myfanwy McDonald

Senior Project Officer

The Royal Children’s Hospital Centre for Community

Child Health

P: (03) 9345 4463

E: [email protected]

For CCCH Research & Policy papers see:

http://www.rch.org.au/ccch/resources_and_publications/