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Dr Kevin Cullen CEO NewSouth Innovations Pty Limited University of New South Wales Publish or Perish? What About Engagement & Impact?

Dr Kevin Cullen, NewSouth Innovations: Fostering greater innovation in a ‘publish or perish’ academic culture

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Dr Kevin Cullen, CEO, NewSouth Innovations delivered this presentation at the 2013 Towards Research Excellence conference. In its 3rd year event attendees met under the theme “From Impact to Excellence – An analysis of the challenges confronting the research sector.” From the challenges of refining regulatory frameworks toward research standards to the concepts of measuring real world impact and funding/investment returns, bridging the gap between current research output and productivity whilst securing the long term sustainability of the research workforce, remains a critical priority for securing Australia’s future prosperity. For more information about the annual event, please visit the conference website: http://www.informa.com.au/researchexcellence

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Page 1: Dr Kevin Cullen, NewSouth Innovations: Fostering greater innovation in a ‘publish or perish’ academic culture

Dr Kevin Cullen CEO NewSouth Innovations Pty Limited University of New South Wales

Publish or Perish?

What About Engagement & Impact?

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Today I will talk about….

- The system around research, knowledge transfer and impact.

- The things I see researchers incentivised to do

- The things I think we want to see researchers do

- The reasons why they don’t

- What we can do about it!

First, the system we are operating in….

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RESEARCH OUTPUTS

Publications

Processes

Materials

Technology

Know-how

Innovation

Skills

New

Knowledge

Researchers

Teaching

Networking/

Events

Consultancy

Professional

Development

Collaborative

Research

Contract

Research

Licensing

Company

Creation

KE CHANNELS

Knowledge Flow

Jobs

New Products

New services

Turnover

Profit

R&D

expenditure

% turnover from

new products/

services

IMPACT

Research

Start-up

Spin-out

Society

Government

Policy-makers

Entrepreneurs

Small Co’s

Big Co’s

USERS

OTHER

FACTORS

OTHER

FACTORS

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Key Points

A perfectly designed system?

• The ERA has focussed on the left-hand side of the system, looking at

research outputs – created by researchers with no need to involve

research-users.

• The Impact Pilot was focussed on the right-hand end of the system, looking

at the impacts – created by research-users with no need to involve

researchers.

• What about all those activities in the middle?

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There are a range of University/Industry

Engagement Activities.....

- Actually, lots of people are doing them

- Why, if not incentivised/rewarded?

- How important are they from a policy

perspective?

,

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The Range of Objectives

Student enterprise

Licences Contract research

Spin-outs

SME networks

Consultancy

yes

no

no

?

yes

no

?

no

no

?

yes

yes

yes

no

no

?

yes

?

Public Good Academic Reasons

Revenue/Profit

Collaborative Research

Licences

Spin-outs

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,

The Returns from these Activities

Research

SMEs/Students

Public Good

Commercialisation

Knowledge Creation Making Money

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The area that policy makers around the world care most

about is innovation for Public Good.

-SME Engagement

-Innovative start-ups

-Entrepreneurship

$ Profit

Public Good

Money Losing Activity

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But the policy/support environment is based on the

commercial model.

$ Profit

Making Money

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From the University Perspective

- At the left we are agents of economic development, seeking to

maximise public good – society and economy are the beneficiaries

- At the right we are venturers, seeking to maximise financial returns

to the University – University is the beneficiary

- In the middle, we are co-creators of knowledge – company and

university both benefit.

- These are really very different, done for very different reasons.

Those focused on Public Good are unfunded and cost money.

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So……

Even when researchers go beyond publication and seek to

engage…..

….the funding mechanisms and measures are perverse here too!!!

And this fails to recognise where the majority of knowledge exchange

and flow of knowledge between universities and the

economy/society actually occurs.

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The University Revenue Curve actually looks like…

$ Revenue

Public Good Research Making Money

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Research spectrum – financial picture

$M

$10M

$20M

$30M

$40M

$50M

$60M

Outreach R&D Contract Licensing Spin off

2011 2010 2009Example:

UNSW data

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It doesn’t make sense!

- We have created a system that encourages researchers NOT to engage

- If, despite this, they do engage, we DO NOT encourage activities that policy-makers everywhere say they want.

- We DO provide funding for commercial opportunities (very, very rare)

- We give very little support to the major channels of knowledge exchange through collaboration (ARC Linkage has been cut)

- We give NO support to those important Public Good activities!

- We then start trying to measure the IMPACT of research done 15 years ago and created by people outside the university…..

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So what should we be doing?

- Encourage and recognise knowledge dissemination

- Provide funding mechanisms to support engagement with industry.

NOTE, This money can be channeled through industry

- Measure the extent of engagement and reward this through the

funding and/or ranking mechanisms ($ and/or

reputation)….algorithms exist.

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In closing

• Companies and researchers actually like speaking to each other and

working together on things of common interest….

• We have removed the incentives and made it difficult and scary (IP)

• We need to create incentives and make it easy and fun (EasyAccess IP)

• We need to fund things that will enable Economic Development

(SMEs/students) to get universities playing to a key strength

• We need to appreciate and applaud all the good stuff that is happening….

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Thank you for listening

Dr Kevin Cullen

Chief Executive Officer

NewSouth Innovations

University of New South Wales (UNSW)

[email protected]