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HIRING
WhyIWontHireYou
BYCHARLIEBALMERJAN16,20121:30PM
Ifyou'veeverhired
anyoneforajob,youunderstandawholenewperspectiveonwhatmakes
anapplicantstandoutandwhatmakesyoutossanapplicationtothebin.
Fairornot,blogger,consultant,andhirerCharlieBalmerdiscusses
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honestlythemistakesthatcanruinyourchanceswithapotentialemployer.
PhotobyStockLite(Shutterstock).
Iwillbe
veryhonestwithyouinthispost.Mostinterviewarticlesonlyshowobvious
mistakes,
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asifmostpeopledon'tknowshowinguplateisbadform.IwilltellyouthethingsIdidn'treallyknowabout
untilIwastheoneinterviewing,andinterviewingforavarietyofpositions
andperson-types.Nointerviewpreparticleeverpreparedmeintherightway
forhowinterviewersreallythink.ThatiswhatIwill
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besharingwithyoutoday.
Whenyoufirstwalkintomyoffice,Iamexpectingyoutobeoneofthe
99%+peoplewhoIknowIwon'thireinthefirst5
minutes.IamhopingIwillbeprovenwrong,becauseIreallywant
tohireyouandbedoneinterviewing.Unfortunately,mostpeople
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lookingforjobsdon'tdeservethem.HerearethemostcommonwaysIknowyoudon'tdeserveanyjobIhavetooffer.
Yousendmeastupidlylongresume
IfIhave
tospendmorethan30secondsfindingoutwhatyouhaveaccomplished,forget
it.Youhaveannoyedme.Somehow,sinceresumeswentdigital,
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peoplefeelliketheycancramin10pagesofboringessaystalkingaboutthisachievementorthatrole,andexpectmetoread
everyjuicyword.Morelikely,Iwillignorethewholething,writedown
inmynotes"poorcommunicator",andmoveon.Ifyouhavea
goodsetofskillsorsomethingcatchesmyeye,you
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mightstillgetaninterview,butI'llstillneverreadtheresume.Andyouhadbetterbeabettercommunicatoronthephoneor
inperson.
Thinkaboutitthiswaytheresumeitems
communicatetomeyourpastsuccessesina(supposedly)succinctmanner.Ifyou
can'tnailitinonesentence,doIreallywant
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tolookforwardtoyourramblingemailseveryday?IfIcan'treadyourresume,itdoesn'tbodewellforyouremails,andI
getenoughofthoseinmyinboxasitis.
To
craftagreatresume,tailorittomyjobposting.IfIhave
askillsetintherelike"WindowsAdministration",make
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sureyouhaveatleastonebulletpointtalkingaboutsuccessinaprojectwhereyouusedthatskill.Makethebulletnolonger
thanthreesentences.Oneisbetter.Iamlikelytoreadonesentence.
Imightreadthree.MorethanthatandIwon'tevenknowwhat
youwrotethere.Youwastedmytimeandyourown.
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Youcan'ttellmewhyyoulikeyourcurrentjob
Ialwaysaskpeoplewhattheylikemostabouttheir
currentjobbeforeIgetintoanydetailsaboutarole.Why?I
wanttoseeifyou'llbehappyworkinginthisnewjob.If
youcan'ttellme
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anythingyoulike,oryoutellmesomethingyoulikebutitsoundsreallygeneric?Thenforgetit,Ihavenoideawhat
youwanttodoinlifeandyouprobablydon'teither.Comesee
mewhenyouknowwhatyouwanttodo.Iwouldevenbe
happywithsomethinglike"Well,thisjobdoesn'tenlivenme,
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butmylastjob,IloveddoingXXXeveryday,andman,Imissthat.Itlookslikethisrolewillletmeget
backtothat."Letmeknowyou'repassionateordon'twastemy
time.
Theworstanswers?"WellIlikethechallenge"orsome
otherBS.Don'tBSme.IhaveasuperBS
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detector,andmostotherinterviewersdotoo.TheworstBSisthekindwheremorethan50%ofcandidatessaythesamething.If
youcan'tbeoriginalaboutwhatyoulikeaboutyouruniquejobhow
canIexpectyoutobecreativeworkingforme?
If
youhaveagenericanswerlikeyouenjoylearning,the
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challenge,helpingcustomers,thatcanbealright.Justsoundexcitedwhenyoutalkaboutit.Givemeanexampleofatimewhenyou
gotreallyfiredupaboutit.Idon'tmindifitdoesn'trelate
tothejobIaminterviewingyoufor,thoughthathelps.Justexpect
metoaskwhyyouthinkthisjobwillgive
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youthesamepassionandhaveagoodanswerready.Really,whyelseareyouapplyingifyoudon'tknowthis?
Nocareerplansorvision
WhenIaskyouwhatyour
nextroleisgoingtobeaftertheoneyou'reinterviewingfor,you
hadbetterhaveagoodanswer.Everyoneshouldhavea
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storyaboutwhyyouwanttocomeworkforme,inthisspecificrole.Ifyoucantellmehowthisrolehelpsyou
accomplishyourlongtermgoals,I'mmuchmorelikelytothinkyou'llbe
happyhereandworkhardinthejob.Ifyoujustwanta
job,whyshouldIcare?Someoneelsewillcometo
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mewiththeirvision.Eventually.
Agoodanswerisawellthoughtoutvision.Youshouldhavethatanyway.Hereisa
goodexample:"Iamlookingtomoveawayfromworkinginmy
currentsmallcompanytoabiggercompanywithmorecareergrowthandopportunities.
Iwanttorisetoanexecutivelevelinthe
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next10years,butmycurrentcompanyistoosmalltoallowmetostretcheffectivelyinthatway.[Thisrole]buildsonmy
strengthsincommunicationandprojectmanagement,andwillhelpmegrowasa
leaderandimprovemyinfluencingskills.Inafewyears,Iwouldlook
tobecomingaseniormanager"andonwithhow
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thisrolefitsintoyourlifevision.
NoSkills
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Please,don'tbotherapplyingifyoudon'thavetherequiredskills.Iwillknow.Ifyou'llbeprogramming,expecttoprograminthe
interview.Andprogramwell.Ifyou'llbeprojectmanaging,youhadbetterbe
abletotellmeabouttherightwaytobuildaprojectplan
andprojectvision.I'llprobablyevendescribeaprojectand
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askyoutobuildaplanrightthere,withme.Justbecausethetitlehassomethinginityouvaguelythinkyoucando,
ifyoudon'tmeettherequirements,pleasedon'twastemytime.Imight
beokifyouareupfrontwithmeandtellmeyou
wantacareerchangeandarewillingtotakea
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morejuniorpositiontolearn.Imighttakeachanceonyouifeverythingelseissolid.Buttellmethatinyourresume
sowedon'twastetime.Yes,tellingmethatinyourresumeimproves
yourchancesofgettinghired,evenifnotnecessarilyforthisjobor
winninganinterview.Iwon'tclaimthisistruefor
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allinterviewers,butitistrueforme.
It'saboutsettingexpectations.Ifyoucomein,andmyexpectationis,forinstance,
thatyouknowUnixadministration,andthenyoutellme"Well,Iread
abookandIreallywanttolearnit",no,Iwon't
likethat.Ifinsteadyouputinyourresumean
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objectiveline"LookingtogrowskillsinUnixadministrationfromaprojectbackground",nowweareonthesamepage.IfIdon't
needanexpertrightnow,maybeIwillinvestintrainingyousince
youhavethevisionandself-motivation.Oh,anddescribingwhatyouaredoing
toprepareisalsogood,evenifyoudon'thave
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onthejobexperience.Seehowtheexpectationcanchangemyperspective?Givemehappysurprises,notunhappysurprises.
Answermyquestions
withconjecture
Iwilltestyouinalotofways.
Iwillaskyoutodescribealotofsituationswhereyou
failed,whereyousucceeded,whatyouwouldchange,whatyou
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hateandwhatyoulove.Don'tsitthereandtellmewhatyouwoulddointhefuture.Ididn'taskwhatyouwould
do,Iaskedwhatyoudid.IfIhavetowaitforyou
tofinishtalking,thensay"Couldyougivemeaspecificexamplewhere
youdidsomethinglikethat?"Thenyouhavefailed
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toanswermyquestion.IfIaskforanexample,pleasegivemeone.Ifyoudon'thaveone,that'sok,tellmeyou
haveneverbeeninthatsituation,butyouhavesomeideasifI
wouldliketohearthem.Yes,Iprobablywouldliketohearthem,
butImightalsohaveanotherquestionwithdifferentexamples
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Iwouldratherknowabout.
Ifyoudon'tthinkwellonyourfeet,spendsometimereadingthroughandpracticingsituationalinterview
questions.Iwon'teveruseoneIseeonline,butitwillhelp
trainyourmindtoanswer,andgiveyoufreshmemoriestodrawfrom.
Ialsodon'tmindwhenacandidatepausestothink.
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Iwillwait.Iknoweveryonehasdifferentstylesofthinkingand
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ineverycase,fromhiringajanitortoanexecutive.
Showmeyoucangetthingsdone.Thismeansyoucan
accomplishchallengingtasksquickly,comeuptospeedwhennecessary,gotheextra
mileifyouhaveto,influencepeers.Youmustbeself-motivated.Showme
youareintelligent.Iwillaskyouquestionsthatare
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designedtomakeyouthink.Showmeyoucan.Don'tconfuseintelligencewitheducation.Idon'tcarewhatkindofschoolingyouhad,if
youcan'tthink,nojob.Ifyoucanthink,andaren'teducated,no
probleminmybook,thoughI'llprobablylookformoreexperienceinstead.Show
mehowIfitintoyourvision.Truthfully,we'llwork
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besttogetherifyouthinkthisjobisthebestplaceforyoutoberightnow.Iwanttohelpyousucceedin
yourcareer,letme.Behighlyskilled.Unfortunately,Idon'thireawesomepeople
whodon'thavetherightskillmix.ButIdokeeptheirinformation
aroundforwhenIneedtheirskillmix.Ialso
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similarjobsomewhereelse,you'llbeboredwithme.Period.Idon'twantanyofthat.TheEnd
Mostofthestuff
IamtalkingaboutherehasnothingtodowithGolemTechnologies,but
moreaboutwhatitisliketohireinthefirstplace.There
aresomanyarticlesouttherewithbadadvicefor
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boththosehiringandthosetryingtobehired,Iwantedtoinjectsomerawhonestyintotheequation.Ifyouarelookingto
hirepeople,thenIwouldrecommendyouusemy5pointsaboveto
screenpeople.Asformehiring,no,Iamnotcurrentlyhiring,so
pleasedon'taskme.WhenIamhiringthough,and
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ifyouhappentoapply,theaboveisthecriteriaI
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willusetodecide.
Thisistrueacrossbusinessfunctionsandacrosscompanies.ThepeoplewhohavethestuffIlisted
towintheinterviewwillgetjobstheywantconsistently.Ifyouare
lackingsomething,thenfigureoutawaytogetthere.Justhavinga
planputsyouaheadof99%ofjobcandidates.I
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alsolikegivingpeopleachancewhenevertheyletme,aslongasIhavetheflexibilitytodoso.Sofar,Ihaven't
beendisappointed.
Doyouhavehiringwarstories(interviewerorinterviewee)
?Sharetheminthecomments!
WhyIWon'tHireYou
|GolemTechnologies
CharlieBalmerisanentrepreneur,
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HowCanIMakeSureMyResumeGetsPastResumeRobotsandintoaHuman'sHand?DISCUSSIONTHREADSFEATUREDALLSTARTANEWTHREAD
timgrayMon16Jan20122:27PM
WHYI
WONTAPPLYFORYOURJOB..
1-requiremetofill
outyourcompany's"application"thatsimplyrepeatsalltheinformation
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thatisonmyresume.Whyareyoushowingmethatyourcompanyismoreinterestedinbusyworkthanskills?Youwillnevereven
lookatthe"application",itisawasteofeveryone'stime.
2-Requireyetanotherlogintopostmyresumetoyourcompany's
website.yourcompanyisnotspecial,whyareyoucluttering
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upyourownserverswiththesillyloginsforpeoplethatwillneverbeusedagain?HiresomecompetentITpeopleanddesigna
resumesubmissionsystemthatdoesnotrequireaun-neededloginforthemto
havetoremember.ThebestoneIhaveseenemailedthesubmittera
pincodeandallowedthemtologinwiththeiremailand
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pincodeiftheyeverneededtoupdatetheresume.
3-Postridiculousrequirements.30+yearsinjava,astronautthathasbeen
inspace10times,hasgod'scellphonenumber.Ifyouarelettingthe
idiotsinHRwritethejobdescriptionatleasttakesometimefrom
golforyourfantasyfootballtoproofreadthejobposition.
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Itjustmakesyoulooklikeaveryuneducatedmanager,abigredflagfortherealprofessionals.
4-Donotpost
asalaryrange.Youwantmetowastemytimetofindout
youarepaying30%underindustryaverage?Behonestandpostthesalary
rangesoyougetrealprofessionalsthatdon'twantto
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wasteourtimetoapply.
Theabovearethereasonsthatmostcompaniesget5000resumesormoreforasingleposition
thatarenotwhattheyarelookingfor.Mostlybecausethehiringmanager
isincompetentatwritingaproperjobposting.TheHRdepartmentthinkthey
aregodlike.Andeveryonethinkstheircompanyissogood
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theydon'thavetogiveanyrealinformationabouttheposition.
Wantabetterlistofhirestochoosefrom?Dothe
aboveandlooklikearespectablecompanytoworkfor.
Honestly,
ifyouwanttopnotchprofessionals,youhavetolookgoodenoughfor
ustoapply.
ian.g.case@timgray
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Alsothis,thisandmorethis.
zakany001@timgray
Interviewsaretwo-waycommunications.Manycompaniesdon'tunderstandthat.promotedby
SteveClimaco
"Whenyoufirstwalkintomyoffice,Iamexpectingyou
tobeoneofthe99%+peoplewhoI
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knowIwon'thireinthefirst5minutes."
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Try:
Whenyoufirstwalkintomyoffice,Iknowwithinthefirst5minutesifyou'regoingtobeone
ofthe99%Iwon'thire.
IfMYfirstinstinctis
toedityourwritingforclarity,youmightneedmemorethanyou
thought.Perhaps"obvious"mistakesaren'tobvioustoeveryone.
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DaveyNC@timgrayBingo.Especiallythesalaryrange.Whyemployersholdthatbackuntileverybodyhasputinlotsoftimeandhadmultiple
interviewshasalwaysbeenamysterytome.Isupposetheyliketo
thinkthattheircompanyissuchawonderfulplacetoworkthatthey
wanttoseewhowantstoworktherewithoutthe
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wewilldecideifwewanttolearnmoreaboutyou.
jp182@DaveyNCIthinkplacesdothatwhentheyREALLY
wanttopaybeforetheindustryaverage.Thiswaytheycantryto
ropepeopleintotakingalowersalary.
JohannSchmidt@timgray
#3IloveitwhenIfind
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jobpostingswithridiculousrequirements.IoncefoundapostingforMicrosoftthatrequiredanumberofyearsexperiencewithacodelanguagethat
actuallyexceededtheageofthelanguageitself.
Butreallyif
HRistiredofsomanyapplicationsbeingsentintheyneedto
bemorespecific/detailedintheirjobposting.Hellifthe
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personisbeinghiredtoworkonaprojectsaywhattheprojectisabout.
promotedbySteveClimaco
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DearZeus@timgray
Every.Single.One.
MayIalsoadd:
3a-Ifyoupostedajobforan
entrylevelpositiondonotsayIneed5yearsofexperience.Also
donotsaythejobisperfectforthoserightoutofcollege
andstillwant5yearsofexperience.Iwasso
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tellmewhy.Idon'texpectahugeletterthattellsmewhy,butasentenceortwoinanemailwon'tkillyou
(unlessyouhave500applicants,butthenyoulikelydidnotinterviewall
ofthem.)IfIalso,"growupandaskthemmyself",
actuallyrespondtomeinsteadofignoreme.Imay
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rejectmebecausehemistookmy5-year-planfora6-month-planandtoldtheHRmanager,whowasreadytohireme,thatIwasn't
worthitifIwasonlygoingtostaytherefor6months.
TheHRmanagerapologizedaftershefoundoutthetruthbutsadlythe
jobwasgone.
Kamatari+approvedthiscomment
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dollen@katiew
Whileagoodandvalidpointkatiew,thisiswhylifehacker.comismockedas"LifeHaters."
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jamescobalt@timgrayHasGawkermadeastatementonwhywecan't+1/like/thums-up/etccomments?Causeseriously,+1timesathousandforMrGray's.
yalestar@katiewTheimperiousandarroganttoneofthisarticle
reallypissedmeoff.Therearevalidpointshere,butIwishmore
employerswouldcometorealizethatthiswhole"I'mGod,
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andyoubegmefortheprivilegeofinterviewinghere,andIfullyexpectyoutofail"dynamicisn'thelpinganyone.Thisapproachto
interviewingandhiringissuretogetyoutoadiesandpeoplewhoare
goodatbeingobsequious.Talentedpeoplewon'ttoleratethiskindofthingfor
verylong.
Also:Spelloutwholenumbersthat
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aresmallerthanten,e.g.:"Whenyoufirstwalkintomyoffice,Iknowwithinthefirstfiveminutes...";)
katiew@yalestarHee,verytrue.Also,onreflection,I'dediteven
furtherbydeletingoneofthe"firsts.""Whenyouwalkintomy
office,Iknowwithinthefirstfiveminutes..."
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Kamatari+@DearZeusF***ingapproving.Thumbsupstoppedworkingformelongago.PlusIagreethehelloutofwhatyou're
saying.
DearZeus@Kamatari+Hahathankyou!Idon't
commentheremuchbutIhadtoonthisonebecausetimgraywas
so,soright.
Kamatari+approvedthiscomment
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Kamatari+@DearZeus
Ihonestlythinkeveryonenotagreeingwiththisguyisright.Idon'tmeanthat
inamob
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mentalityway,buthonestly,Hiringmanagerslikethispersonstraightupfailtotakeintoaccountthatontheothersideofthe
applicationprocess,WEAREFREAKINGHUMANLIKEYOU.
brianbrereton@katiew
That'snotwhathesaid,orwhathemeant.
RvLeshrac@DaveyNC+1forsalaryrange.I'venot
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givenafuckabout"theprocess"forawhilenow,andaskforthepayupfront.IfIhavetodriveacrosstown
andsitintrafficforthreehourseveryday,Ineedtoknow
thatyou'repayingmeenoughtofillupthetankandmaintainmy
car,aswellascoverthefactthatI'mspreading
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mypayacrossallthatextratime.
promotedbyDaveyNC
cyclocrossmechanic@DearZeus
Withregardsto#
5there'sareasoncompanieswon'tsaywhytheydidn'thireyou:lawsuits.
Thisisespeciallytrueforlargercompanies-thebiggeryouarethebigger
atargetyoubecome.Assomeonewhohasbeena
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recruiterandahiringmanagerI'vehadseveraltimeswhereI'dlovetohavetoldapersonwhytheyblewitinaninterview
butwasstrictlyprohibitedfromdoingso.Oftenit'sbeenduetosomething
thatapersoncouldprobablyimproveinwithsomeeffort.Ifyouget
rejectedfollowinganin-personinterviewdon'tbeafraidtoask
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therecruiterforareasyoucouldimprovein.Don'tdothisinanemail-pickupthephoneandcallthem.They'remorelikely
tobehonestwithyouoverthephoneand"offtherecord".
I'vegivenadvicetopeoplefollowinginterviewsbecauseIknowthey'reotherwisesharp
peoplewhosimplydon'tinterviewwellormakeeasilycorrected
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mistakes.Interviewingisaskillandifyourjobdoesn'trequirefrequentinteractionswithstrangersthenyou'regoingtohaveahardertimeinterviewing.
Alsobeawarethatastheeconomyrecoverstherewillbemore*quality*
candidates***outtherecompetingforthesamejobssoitisvery
likelythattheothercandidatesimplyhadmoreexperienceor
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greaterexpertiseinagivenarea.
***it'sabitofamyththathigherunemploymentcreatesmorecompetitionforjobs.
Whileitmakessenseitignoreshumannature.Whilethenumberofapplicants
goesupthatdoesn'tmeanthenumberofqualifiedcandidatesgoesup.When
theeconomyistankingthepeople
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whostillhavejobswillclingtothemratherthanrollthedicebychangingjobs.ThismakesitMUCHhardertorecruit
passivecandidates(whoareusuallytopperformersandthusthemostdesired)
promotedbySteveClimaco
Guvmint_Cheese@timgrayIcannotspeak
forallcompaniesre:#4,butthereasontheydon't
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doitatmineisbecausetheyareusuallywillingtoexceedtherangeforapersonwhoisaperfectfitforthe
positionandbringsexperiencethatexceedstherequirements.Theydonotwantto
scarethosepeopleoffwhomightbeatajobwithahigher
salarythantherangefromapplying.Thiswastruefor
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mewhenIcametoworkforthem,andIactuallytookasmallpaycuttotakethepositionbecauseitofferedbetter
work/lifebalanceandisoneofthetopplacestoworkinthe
industry.
Re:#1,mycompanyusesathirdpartyapplicationto
manageapplicantsandresumes.Theprofileyoufillouton
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thewebsiteisactuallyyourapplicationforemployment,sothereisnoadditionalpaperworktofilloutforthatiftheyhireyou.If
you'regoodenough,andthepositionishardtofill,youcouldprobably
getawaywithfillingoutminimalinformationontheprofileandjustattaching
yourresume.Mostpeople,andpositions,don'tfitthisprofile.
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Ithinkittookme15minutestofillitoutontheirwebsite,andhonestlyifthisistooonerousforanapplicant,
Idoubtwewouldwanttohirethemanyway.
rmagere1
@katiew
ActuallyIdonotthinkthatyourrewritecaptureswhat
theoriginalposteractuallymeant.
Yourrewritestates
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notgetthejob(reasonableassumptionassoonas3+peopleapplytothesameposition)and(b)thatmostofthemgetthemselves
outofthe"hiring"groupwithinashorttimeframeduetothings
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theycouldhaveprevented(possiblytrue/possiblynot)
Theemphasisofyourrewriteison(asIreadit-might
bedifferentonothers)"Iamjustanotherpower-hypedmanagerwhocomes
upwithbroadlyspeakinggeneralisationsabouthowbadmostpeopleareforjobs"
Hencethetwostatementsarenotthesame
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atall(oratleastwhenIreadthemtheydonotconveythesamemessage)
Moon@jamescobalt
Because
wedon'twantanotherDigg.
brentbuchh@timgrayAgree!
[email protected]..."expecting"and"
Iknow"couldbearguedtohaveaslightlydifferent
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leveloffinality.Andreorganizingthesentenceyourwayonlychangestheorder,nottheclarity.Hissentencewasfine.
paolo.scaramuzzino
@timgray
WHYIAMSKIPPINGHEADHUNTERS
Youareso
rightTimgray.
Ihaveevenstoppedapplyingforpoststhatinvolve
recruitersorheadhunters.
Afternearly20yearsof
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careerin4differentcountriesin2continentsinover10companiesIconsidertheheadhunterssomewhattotallyincompetentfrustratedmissedpsychologist/sociologist.
IhavebeeninvolvedinmorethanIcanrememberrecruitingprocessesmeeting
over30self-declaredtop-notchinternationalheadhunters,andIcanonlythinkofone
singlecasewhentheinterviewerknewlet's-be-goodandsay10%
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Sosinceabout6yearsago,whenapplyingforaposition,fistquestionis:"doestherecruitingprocessinvolvesheadhunters?"Iftheanswer
is"yes"Iimmediatelysay:"Iwilldealwithyoudirectly,Iwill
provideanybackgrounddocumentationyourequirewithoutarguingbutIwon'tacceptan
interviewwithanheadhunter,ifit'sfinewithyou,we
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cangoahead".
Andguesswhat...Ihaven'tfoundevenONESINGLEcompanythathasdeclinedmyapproach...and
haven'tfoundONESINGLEcompanythatwashappywiththestafftheso-called
top-notchinternationalheadhuntershadfound.
Andguesswhat?Ihavedoubled
mysalaryateachcareerstepeversince.
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SowhatcanItellyou?Headhuntersandoutsourcedrecruitersareuselessexpensiveparasiteofthejobmarketluckilybeingdecimatedbythiscrisis
whichmightturnouttobeoneoftheveryfewpositiveside
effectsofthecrisis.
Companiesdon'tneedthem,candidatesevenless.
Gomakeyourpathbyyourself.
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DaveyNCapprovedthiscomment
DaveyNC@RvLeshracYeah,Ieventuallycametoregardtimespentdrivingtoandfromworkasbeing
partofthejob,mostlybecauseIhaveworkedfromhomeformany
years.IdecidedthatifitweresomethingthatIwouldnotdo
inthecourseofanormaldaythenitwas
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workrelated.OneofthereasonsthatIleftAtlantawasthat2-3hoursadayIspentinthecargoingto
andfrom.
Idon'tunderstandwhysomanypeopleregardthat
muchcartimeasanacceptabletradeoff.
Replytopromote.Makeyourownpath!Loveit!
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MindedOne@cyclocrossmechanic
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Iactuallygotanengineeringco-oplastweekwithoneofthebig3wirelesscompaniesbecause,afterbeingrejected,Iaskedif
therewasanythingIcoulddowithinthenextsixmonths/yearinorder
tobebetterpreparedandmoreequippedformynextinterviewwiththe
company.IalsoletherknowthatIunderstandif
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itiscompanypolicynottoanswerthesequestions.Turnsoutthenextdaytheyopenedupanotherposition,andIwasthefirst
personshethoughtof.
"Unfortunately,Idon'thireawesomepeoplewho
don'thavetherightskillmix.ButIdokeeptheirinformationaround
forwhenIneedtheirskillmix.Ialsotend
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Ikeepgettingcallsforinterviewsfromthesamecompanies,becauseeventhoughImaynothavetherightskillsetforthejob,
IthinkI'mimpressingduringtheinterview.
Palin4Pres!
@Guvmint_CheeseUm,youjustsaidthat#1issoyourHRdoesn't
havetofilloutthat15minpaperwork.You
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alreadyhiredthem!:)
EscapePod@timgray@timgray:Wellstated.Aftersittinginasanassociateonmanycandidateinterviews,
I'vewalkedawaythinking(tomyself)Iwouldn'tworkforthesearrogantbozos
iftheytripledmycurrentsalary.
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4:14AM
jamescobalt@Moon
I
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don'tevenuseDigg,butliterallyTHOUSANDSofwebsiteshaveawayofshowingagreeanceincommentswithakudossystem.It'ssocommon,
sofarbeyondjustDigg(whichisentirelydifferentbecauseIthinkDigg
isavote/visibilitysystemversusakudos/agreeancesystem)thatthesedaysIthink
peoplekindofexpectthat.Thisisoneofthe
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onlycommentsystemsIusethatdoesn'tofferthatoption.
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mrsplooge@timgray#TimgrayWhereisthelikebutton?
tracykelly@timgraytimgray,
Whatawellwrittenandthoughtout
comment!Iagreewitheveryword.Unfortunately,toimplementsuchapolicymay
simplykeeponeinanundesirableemployment,orhalttheprocessofdiscontinuing
anunemploymentsituation.
Nevertheless,Iintendonfinding
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amiddleground.
IfeelasthoughIhaveahigherthanaverageskillsetintheI.T.field.Please,nobragging
wasintended,IonlymeanIamcompetentbasedonseveralyearsof
continuededucationandIhavecometoknowtheindustryfairlywell.Given
that;Iseesomanyjobsannouncementswithdescriptionsthat
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couldonlyleaveapersonwonderingwhatthe"heck"theorganizationislookingfor.Alltoooftenitwouldseemthepersonwhowrites
thejobdescriptionismoreintentonexpressingtheirabilitiesasaword-smith
ratherthanprovidinganadequatenarrativeoftheduties.Iguessthisties
intothestatementyoumadeaboutcertaindepartmentsthinkingthey
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aregodlike.
Loveyoucomment!
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