Transcript
Page 1: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

Keith Bradley, MDCEO/CMO

National Alliance of Research Associates Programs (NARAP)

Page 2: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

Why Listen to this Guy?• West Point• Notre Dame• St. Clare’s Hospital (Hell’s Kitchen)• Tulane University School of Medicine• Medical College of Pennsylvania – EM• Norwalk Hospital• Lincoln Med and Mental Health Center (S. Bronx)• Bridgeport Hospital / Yale Emergency Medicine• St. Vincent’s Medical Center

Page 3: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

Why Listen to this Guy?

• > 30 years as an academic emergency physician– hundreds of medical students and residents

• 7 years as a Health Professions Adviser– hundreds of pre-health professional students

• Research Associates (RA) Programs x 20 years– thousands of RAs

Page 4: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

Agenda

• Help you see the process of preparing for a career in the health professions from a different perspective

• Recruit you – Line RA as a college undergrad– Chief RA as a college graduate

Page 5: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

Heresies

• “Pre- Med”

• Why you go to medical school ?

• Research is very important, but …

• Significant clinical experience not optional

• Post-Bac is the preferable option

Page 6: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

“Pre-Med”

• No “Pre- anything”

• Career begins with “I think I might want to be a ____.”– you want to be in control of how long or short

• Career Building ≠ just getting into medical school– medical school is a means not an end

Page 7: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

Why Do You Go to Medical School?

• Do you want to go to medical school to become a physician?

• Go to medical school to become a resident;finish a residency to become a physician

• Only a physician can practice medicine• Trade School ≈ a medieval craft

– medical student = apprentice– resident = journeyman/woman

– physician = master craftsman/woman

Page 8: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

Getting a Residency = Immediate Goal

• PG training for 3, 5, 7 years … to “forever”

• Competitive Residencies: A RODEO

– Anesthesiology

– Radiology

– Dermatology

– Emergency Medicine

– Orthopedics, Ophthalmology, Otolaryngology

Page 9: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

Getting a Residency = Immediate Goal

• PG training for 3, 5, 7 years … to “forever”

• Competitive Residencies: A RODEO

• The Residency Dilemma

Page 10: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

Residency Dilemma – 30% by ‘15AAMC Statement on the Physician Workforce

↓ Supply• aging work force

– retiring, dying, quitting early• working fewer hours … thank goodness

↑ Demand• more health care available• “Baby Boomers” getting older

Page 11: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

Residency Dilemma – 30% by ‘15AAMC Statement on the Physician Workforce

Problem: 85,000 doctor shortfall by 2020

Solution: 30% increase in AAMC MS 1 slots by 2015

Page 12: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

Residency Dilemma – 30% by ‘15Benchmark Year = 2002

• 16,000 MD graduates– last med school expansion in 1970’s

for physician shortage– end of federal money for med schools in 1980’s

for physician oversupply

• 24,000 PGY 1 positions– 15% USIMG and 15% FMG

Page 13: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

Residency Dilemma – 30% by ‘15AAMC Statement on the Physician Workforce

Problem: 85,000 doctor shortfall by 2020

Solution: 30% increase in AAMC MS 1 slots by 2015

Issue: ask wrong question, get wrong answer

Only licensed residency grads practice medicine, not “doctors”

Page 14: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

Residency Dilemma - Do the Math30% by ‘15

• ↑ 2002 AAMC slots by 30% ≈ 5,000 → 21K

• Osteopathic ≈ 1/5 of med school grads → 4 K

• Off-Shore ≈ 2.5 K

24 K – 27.5 K = - 3.5 K

… and no additional physicians!

Page 15: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

Residency Dilemma - Consequences

• Competition for all residency programs

• Earlier decision on specialty of medicine

• Medical school > competitive, < collaborative

• Off-Shore option has very great risk

Page 16: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

Selecting PGY1s

• MS1s MS4s are “smart enough”– able to compete on MCATs →– pass USMLE →– pass Specialty Boards = fully qualified physician

master craftsman/woman

Page 17: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

Selecting PGY1s

• MS1s MS4s are “smart enough”

• How many times can you cut the cream?

• More important “other” criteria– hardest workers– nice, interesting, fun to teach– bring something extra to the table?

Page 18: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

Research Is Very Important, But …

Bench

• traditional

• more available

• discernment

>>> research career

Clinical

• new

• less available

• career-building!

>>> clinical career

Page 19: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

Significant clinical experience not optional• Why?

– discernment– qualification– development

• Shadowing is not significant– short time, little commitment, passive, available

• Working with patients is significant– long time, huge commitment, active– usually need “two letters” (e.g., MD, DO, RN, PA, PT)– except …

Page 20: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

Getting Clinical Experience

RA Programs• Research Associates (RAs) enroll patients and

their visitors in clinical studies in the ED

Page 21: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy
Page 22: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

Getting Clinical Experience

RA Programs• Research Associates (RAs) enroll patients and

their visitors in clinical studies in the ED– SOAP as a physician– Study Protocol as a RA

• One, 4-hour shift per week• Clinical + Research

Page 23: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

National Alliance of Research Associates Programs

NARAP• growing consortium of hospitals around the

country

Page 24: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

NARAP Member Institutions

CT Hartford Hospital/UConn

Lawrence & Memorial

St. Vincent’s

DC Georgetown

MA UMass

MO St. Louis UniversityNJ Hackensack U.

Medical Center

NY University of Rochester

NV University of Nevada

PA Jefferson

TX Seton / U Texas, Austin

VT UVM

WA Pullman Regional

Page 25: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

National Alliance of Research Associates Programs

NARAP• growing consortium of hospitals around the country • utilizing the RA model • produce large scale, clinical studies over short time

frames with minimal cost• Tobacco Cessation study:

- > 19,000 participants, thousands of RAs- 4th largest prospective, interventional study ever in U.S.

Page 26: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

Post-Bac is the Preferable Option

Guiding Concepts

• College ≠ getting into medical school

• MCATs takes 400 hours of prep for success

• Career-building, not just admissions

• Residency is the immediate goal

Page 27: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

2nd semester, Junior Year

Best Semester of Your Life … Academically

• Upper level major courses

• Best electives

• Cost of Attendance ≈ $___ K per semester

• No second chance

• Ramping up

Page 28: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

MCATA “Useless” Test, Except …

• material you will never use again

• format you will never endure again

• purpose you should never face again

Page 29: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

MCATWhy spend 400 hours getting ready for MCATs?

• Get into medical school!

• Become an expert test-taker – USMLE – Specialty Boards

Page 30: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

MCAT 400 Hour Prep Timeline

If ... Graduation --> Medical School

Activity No later than

matriculate August after graduation

interview 1st semester, Sr year AMCAS

1 July, after Jr year MCAT mid–

May, after Jr year

MCAT prep 2nd semester, Jr year

Page 31: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

MCAT 400 Hour Prep Timeline

Medical School after GraduationIssues• January to mid-May ≈ 20 weeks

assume study 5 d/wk = 4 hours of study per day• Out of “best academic semester of your life,”

spend 4 hours/day cramming for a test that is only useful if you– get a competitive score for medical school admissions– learn to be an expert test-taker

Page 32: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

MCAT 400 Hour Prep Timeline

Medical School after GraduationConsequences

• Not “the best academic semester of your life”• Not ramping up

• Not really do 400 hours prep → Oops on MCAT

→ forced post-bac year(s)

Page 33: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

MCAT 400 Hour Prep Timeline

If ... Planned Post-Bac Year

Activity No later than

matriculate August after PB year

interview fall semester, PB year

AMCAS 1 July of PB year

MCAT September, Sr year

MCAT prep summer, Between Jr – Sr years

Page 34: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

MCAT 400 Hour Prep Timeline

Planned Post-Bac Year

• MCAT prep from mid-May to mid-September

• ≈ 20 weeks, 5 days / week → 4 hours per day

Page 35: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

MCAT 400 Hour Prep Timeline

Planned Post-Bac YearAdvantages• 2nd semester, Junior =“best semester of your life”

– better grades, better ramping up• 1 “bad” summer

– has to be done sometime!– still time for work, maybe even a little fun

• Oops on MCAT,time to take again and stay on schedule

Page 36: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

MCAT 400 Hour Prep Timeline

Planned Post-Bac YearAdvantages• Post-bac year ≠ “year-off,” = YEAR-ON

• Apply with

– optimal grades

– MCATs

– accomplishments from YEAR ON

Page 37: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

MCAT 400 Hour Prep Timeline

If ... Planned Post-Bac YearAdvantages• Post-bac year ≠ “year-off,” = YEAR-ON

• Apply with

– optimal grades

– MCATs

– accomplishments from a YEAR ON

Page 38: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

Post-Bac Year On

• Do what you may never have the chance to do again

• Career-Build = Clinical Research → Residency• Take 1st year of med school before med school

– be an MS1 with time → more clinical research!• Make money

– knock down undergraduate debt• Have fun!

Page 39: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

Post-Bac Year OnNARAP Chief Research Associate

• Middle managers of RA Programs at NARAP affiliates

Page 40: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

Post-Bac Year On

Page 41: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

Post-Bac Year OnNARAP Chief Research Associate

• Middle managers of RA Programs at NARAP affiliates• Involved in all aspects of clinical research from initial

concept through publication• Networking with top clinical researchers at

residency programs• Residency application:

– published author in a clinical journal– start/help manage a RA program to get their research

done

Page 42: Let’s Talk a Little Pre-Med Heresy

NARAP RA and Chief RA

www.theNARAP.org