Appendix B: Public and Agency Outreach
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APPENDICES
APPENDIX B.1. STAKEHOLDER OUTREACH ACTIVITIES Appendix B.1.1. Agency and Community Stakeholder Meetings Appendix B.1.2. Stakeholder Meetings Summaries Appendix B.1.3. Fact Sheet
APPENDIX B.2. COMMUNITY TOURS Appendix B.2.1. Flyer Appendix B.2.2. Information Packet
APPENDIX B.3. COMMUNITY MEETINGS Appendix B.3.1. Direct Mail Appendix B.3.2. Email Notifications Appendix B.3.3. Flyer Appendix B.3.4. Poster Boards Appendix B.3.5. Presentation Appendix B.3.6. Comment Cards Appendix B.3.7. Roll Plot Comments Appendix B.3.8. Speaker Comments Appendix B.3.9. Sign-In Sheets
APPENDIX B.4. PROJECT WEBSITE AND EMAIL COMMENTS
Green Line Extension to Torrance Supplemental Alternatives Analysis
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APPENDIX B: PUBLIC AND AGENCY OUTREACH
APPENDIX B.1. STAKEHOLDER OUTREACH ACTIVITIES Appendix B.1.1. Agency and Community Stakeholder Meetings
# Stakeholder Organization Contact Contact Information Initial contact Meeting Date Location and Time
1 City of LawndaleSean Moore, Community
Development Director
Phone: 310.973.3231
Email: [email protected]
Metro Coordinated with
Lawndale Wednesday, May 10th, 2017
14717 Burin Ave, Lawndale,
CA 90260
3:00 - 4:00pm
2 City of Redondo BeachBrad Lindahl, Capital
Projects Program ManagerPhone: 310.318.0661
Metro Coordinated with
Redondo Beach Friday, May 19th, 2017
City Hall - Planning
Conference Room
415 Diamond St., Redondo
Beach, CA 90277
2:00 - 3:00pm
3 City of Torrance Kim Turner, Torrance
Transit Director
Phone: 310.618.6245
Email: [email protected]
Metro Coordinated with
TorranceThursday, June 1st, 2017
Metro
10:00am - 11:00am
4 City of Lawndale Sean Moore, Community
Development Director
Phone: 310.973.3231
Email: [email protected]
Metro Coordinated with
LawndaleMonday, June 26th, 2017
Lawndale
14717 Burin Ave, Lawndale,
CA 90260
5 South Bay Cities Council of GovernmentsDavid Leger, Mobility and
Board Secretary
Phone: 310.371.7222
Email: [email protected]
Metro Coordinated with
South Bay Cities COGWednesday, July 12th, 2017
SBCCOG Office
20285 S. Western Ave. Suite
100 Torrance, CA 90501
6South Bay Cities Council of Governments:
Transportation Committee Presentation
David Leger, Mobility and
Board Secretary
Phone: 310.371.7222
Email: [email protected]
Metro & TRG
Coordinated with South
Bay Cities COG
Monday, August 14th, 2017
SBCCOG Office
20285 S. Western Ave. Suite
100 Torrance, CA 90502
10:30 - 11:30am
7 South Bay Association Chambers of CommerceDan Hoffman, Board Chair
Henry Rogers, Meeting Lead
Henry Phone: 562.355.3825
Henry Email: [email protected]
TRG Coordinated with
SBACC
Tuesday, September 12th,
2017
2300 Crenshaw Blvd., Bldg B
Torrance, CA 90501
8
South Bay Cities Council of Governments:
Infrastructure Working Group Committee
Presentation
David Leger, Mobility and
Board Secretary
Phone: 310.371.7222
Email: [email protected]
Metro & TRG
Coordinated with South
Bay Cities COG
Wednesday, September
13th, 2017
Blue Water Grill - 665 North
Harbor Drive, Redondo
Beach, CA 90277
11:30am - 1:30pm
9 South Bay Bicycle Coalition PresentationAndrea N. Giancoli,
Executive Director
Phone: 310.379.6512
Email: [email protected]
TRG Coordinated with
SBBC
Thursday, September 14th,
2017
Hermosa Beach Community
Center - 710 Pier Ave.,
Hermosa Beach, CA 90254
Room 9
7:00 - 8:00pm
10 South Bay Association of Realtors
David Kissinger,
Director of Government
Affairs
Phone: 310.326.3010
Email: [email protected]
TRG Coordinated with
SBAORTuesday, October 3rd, 2017
22833 Arlington Ave
Torrance, CA 90501
9:00 - 10:00am
11Torrance Chamber of Commerce GAP
Committee Presentation
Donna Duperron, President
and CEO
Phone: 310.540.6688
Email: [email protected]
Metro Coordinated with
Torrance Chamber
Wednesday, October 11th,
2017
2300 Crenshaw Blvd., Bldg B
Torrance, CA 90501
12:00pm - 1:30pm
12North Redondo Beach Business Association
PresentationDonald Szerlip, adwerx
Phone: 310.938.5344
Email: [email protected]
Metro Coordinated with
NRBBA
Thursday, October 12th,
2017
Redondo Beach North
Library: 2000 Artesia Blvd
Redondo Beach, CA 90278
7:45 - 8:15am
13 South Bay Service Council Presentation
Dolores Ramos, Sr.
Administrative Analyst
LA Metro
Phone: 213.922.1210
Email: [email protected]
Metro Coordinated with
South Bay Service CouncilFriday, October 13th, 2017
Inglewood City Hall, One W.
Manchester Blvd.
Inglewood, CA 90301
9:30 - 11:00am
14 South Bay Galleria/Forest City Presentation Kenneth LeePhone: 213.280.8430
Email: [email protected]
Metro Coordinated with
Forest City
Thursday, October 26th,
2017
South Bay Galleria
Management Office
1815 Hawthorne Blvd 2nd
Floor Redondo Beach, CA
90278
9:30 - 11:00am
15City of Redondo Beach Council District 3
Presentation
Christian Horvath,
Council Member, District 3
Phone: 424.262.4471
Email: [email protected]
Metro Coordinated with
Redondo Beach District 3
Saturday, December 16th,
2017
415 Diamond St. Redondo
Beach, CA 90277
9:30 - 11:00am
16South Bay Cities Council of Governments:
Transportation Committee Presentation
David Leger, Mobility and
Board Secretary
Phone: 310.371.7222
Email: [email protected]
Metro & TRG
Coordinated with South
Bay Cities COG
Monday, January 8th, 2018
SBCCOG Office
20285 S. Western Ave. Suite
100 Torrance, CA 90502
10:30 - 11:30am
17 South Bay Association Chambers of CommerceDan Hoffman, Board Chair
Henry Rogers, Meeting Lead
Henry Phone: 562.355.3825
Henry Email: [email protected]
TRG Coordinated with
SBACCTuesday, January 9th, 2018
CSUDH Extended Education
Auditorium
1000 E. Victoria Street
Carson, CA 90747
8:00am - 9:45am
18Torrance Chamber of Commerce GAP
Committee Presentation
Donna Duperron, President
and CEO
Phone: 310.540.6688
Email: [email protected]
TRG Coordinated with
Torrance Chamber
Wednesday, January 10th,
2018
2300 Crenshaw Blvd., Bldg B
Torrance, CA 90501
12:00pm - 1:30pm
Green Line Extension to Torrance ProjectStakeholder Outreach - Supplemental Alternatives Analysis Phase
# Stakeholder Organization Contact Contact Information Initial contact Meeting Date Location and Time
19North Redondo Beach Business Association
PresentationDonald Szerlip, adwerx
Phone: 310.938.5344
Email: [email protected]
Metro Coordinated with
NRBBA
Thursday, January 11th,
2018
Redondo Beach North
Library: 2000 Artesia Blvd
Redondo Beach, CA 90278
7:45 - 8:15am
20 City of LawndaleSean Moore, Community
Development Director
Phone: 310.973.3231
Email: [email protected]
Metro Coordinated with
LawndaleThursday, January 11th,
2018
14717 Burin Ave, Lawndale,
CA 90260
3:00 - 4:00pm
21 South Bay Bicycle Coalition Andrea N. Giancoli,
Executive Director
Phone: 310.379.6512
Email: [email protected]
TRG Coordinated with
SBBC
Thursday, January 11th,
2018
Hermosa Beach Community
Center - 710 Pier Ave.,
Hermosa Beach, CA 90254
Room 9
7:00 - 8:00pm
22 Right of Say Group Glen BrackenridgePhone: 646.298.8767
Email: [email protected]
TRG Coordinated with
RoSFriday, January 12th, 2018
Metro HQ
One Gateway Plaza
Los Angeles, CA 90012
Tarzana Mtg Room
12:00 - 1:00pm
23 City of Torrance / Torrance TransitKim Turner, Torrance
Transit Director
Phone: 310.618.6245
Email: [email protected]
TRG Coordinated with
Torrance
Thursday, January 25th,
2018
Torrance Transit
20500 Madrona Ave.
Torrance, CA 90503
10:00am - 11:00am
24 South Bay Cities COG Board of DirectorsDavid Leger, Mobility and
Board Secretary
Phone: 310.371.7222
Email: [email protected]
Metro & TRG
Coordinated with South
Bay Cities COG
Thursday, January 25th,
2018
SBCCOG Office
20285 S. Western Ave. Suite
100 Torrance, CA 90502
6:00pm - 8:00pm
25 South Bay Association of Realtors
David Kissinger,
Director of Government
Affairs
Phone: 310.326.3010
Email: [email protected]
TRG Coordinated with
SBAORTuesday, February 6th, 2018
22833 Arlington Ave
Torrance, CA 90501
9:00 - 10:30am
26 SBLRT Redondo Beach City StaffSean Scully, Planning
ManagerPhone: 310.318.0661
TRG Coordinated with
Redondo Beach Thursday, February 7, 2018
City Hall - Planning
Conference Room
415 Diamond St., Redondo
Beach, CA 90277
2:00 - 3:00pm
27 Redondo Beach Chamber of Commerce Marna Smeltzer,
Executive Director
Phone:
Email: [email protected]
TRG Coordinated with
Redondo ChamberFriday, February 16, 2018
Redondo Beach Chamber
119 W. Torrance Blvd. #2
Redondo Beach, CA 90277
8:00 - 9:30am
28 Gateway Cities Service Council [email protected] 213-922-1282
Metro Coordinated with
Gateway Cities Service
Council
Thursday, May 10, 2018
Salt Lake Park Community
Center Lounge
3401 E Florence Ave
Huntington Park, 90255
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Appendix B: Public and Agency Outreach
Appendix B.1.2. Stakeholder Meetings Summaries
#Stakeholder
OrganizationMeeting Date
Materials
PresentedFeedback Attendees
•Recap of study to-date given by Metro
•Lawndale TOD Grant
•Plan for area around Redondo Beach (Marine) station – Cities of Hawthorne
and Lawndale involved (Redondo Beach dropped out)
•Plan to Lawndale City Council for review/approval next week
•Will provide model ordinance. Potential as an overlay.
•City to provide Metro the Plan early next week after Council approval.
•Lawndale Overview
•City is about 75% R-2 zoning (2 units per lot)
•Typical lot is 40’ by 130’
•Lots of postwar, bungalow-type development
•Mainly R-2 in area around ROW, some R-3 and R-4 near Artesia Blvd
•60% of city population is renters
•Large mixed-use development going to Council for approval next month
•41 units on 1.7 acres on 153rd Street near Hawthorne Blvd
•One of the first applications of Hawthorne Blvd Specific Plan from 1990s
•Lots of opposition from neighbors – main concerns were compatibility,
aesthetics and parking
•Biggest concern for city residents currently: Parking
•Potential solutions could include:
•Metro station parking to be utilized as a park and ride during the day and
resident parking at night
•More spread out, smaller lots instead of having all new parking at the Metro
station
•Permit parking in station area to prevent spill-over parking from station, likely
need
•City might prepare a parking master plan to better use business parking in
non-business hours for residents
•Lots of residents use Hawthorne Blvd parking at night, but some, especially
women, feel unsafe
•Other City concerns with project:
•Noise and vibration
•Preservation of green/recreational space along ROW; potentially including a
multi-use path
•South Pasadena example may not be relevant in Lawndale, which is much
denser
•Avoidance of impacts to Westwood Building Materials
•Transition of aerial to at-grade near 159th
•Options City would like us to examine:
•Cut-and-Cover
•Trench
•Semi-trench (slight depression with berms, landscaping, etc)
•At-grade with mitigations such as sound walls (current alignment)
•Aerial (near Inglewood Ave for grade separation)
•Public Outreach suggestions
•Hold open houses with mainly break-out table sessions, few general public
comment periods
•Can be held at community center adjacent to city hall
•Have concrete options for public to look at as opposed to blank slate
•Next Steps with City
•Further develop options shown above
•Have follow-up meeting with staff in late May
•Council can be brought in as needed in June
•Public meeting in June/July
•Recap of study to-date given by Metro
•Timeline: Measure M shows ground breaking in 2026 with expected opening
in 2030
•Path forward may include stand-alone EIR followed by EA/CE document from
FTA
•Redondo Beach South Bay Regional Intermodal Transit Center
•Construction scheduled to begin in Summer 2017
•Currently about 95% level of completion for plans
•City would like transit center to serve as local match for South Bay Extension
funding
Green Line Extension to Torrance Project
Stakeholder Outreach - Supplemental Alternatives Analysis Phase
1 City of Lawndale PPT & Roll Plots
(Lawndale) Sean Moore,
Christopher Wilson
(Project Team) Meghna
Khanna, David Mieger,
Mark Dierking, Tyler
Bonstead
Wednesday, May
10th, 2017
2City of Redondo
Beach
PPT, Fact Sheet,
& Roll Plots
(Redondo Beach) Brad
Lindahl, Ted Semaan,
Joyce Rooney, John
LaRock, Sean Scully,
Leslie Scott (Project
Team) Meghna Khanna,
David Mieger, Mark
Dierking, Tyler
Bonstead, Lisa Padilla,
Isaiah Ford
Friday, May 19th,
2017
#Stakeholder
OrganizationMeeting Date
Materials
PresentedFeedback Attendees
1 City of Lawndale PPT & Roll Plots
(Lawndale) Sean Moore,
Christopher Wilson
(Project Team) Meghna
Khanna, David Mieger,
Mark Dierking, Tyler
Bonstead
Wednesday, May
10th, 2017
• City to provide latest plans to Metro for review
•Former Verizon (now Frontier) Site south of transit center has been sold to
developer – it is being leased back to Frontier currently and may be
redeveloped in future
•General Plan Update
•General Plan update is just kicking off
•Updates to Land Use, Open Space, Recreational elements (not Circulation)
•Environmental document will start at end of 2017
•Completion by 2019, then up for public vote
•General Plan Advisory Committee (GPAC) kicked off in April
•Not linked to Galleria renovation (described below)
•Pocket of R-1 zoning just west of Galleria and east of SBE may be proposed
for re-zoning – potential TOD given surrounding projects
•Mixed Used zoning (which can accommodate 30 dwelling units/acre) may be
cut back
•Would like Metro project website location for inclusion on general plan
website (PlanRedondo – Redondo.org/planredondo)
•South Bay Galleria Renovation
•DEIR for renovation will be released Thursday, 5/25
•Any project components along Artesia Boulevard would likely conflict with
plans in area
•Current zoning allows for residential to be added
•Area to south of Galleria to likely stay industrial/commercial
•Bicycle/Pedestrian Connections
•Addition of bicycle paths along ROW would be seen very favorably by bicycle
advocates in the City
•Previously proposed path from Grant to 182nd behind Target should be
considered
•City has received two Call for Projects grants for South Bay Bicycle Master
Plan projects in City
•Manhattan Beach/Inglewood Area
•City project to build right turn lane from SB Inglewood to WB Manhattan
Beach underway
•Very cognizant of impacts to shopping center on corner, especially Cuban
restaurant
•City & Metro to coordinate on SBE improvements at this location
•Artesia Boulevard Corridor:
•Interest in changing strip commercial into high-density residential
•May have specific plan for corridor soon
•No immediate plans for bike lanes along street
•Other Notes
•City regulation: 1% of project budget for public art
•No current plans for major changes to Beach Cities Transit routes – should be
examined once SBE comes into area
•Northrup Grumman planning expansion on campus south of Marine Ave
•Conversion of old industrial along 190th west of Hawthorne to residential
may happen in future
•Key Stakeholders for Area:
•North Redondo Beach Business Alliance
•Forest City (Galleria Owner)
•Bicycle Coalition
•John Graham, RB City Council District 4
•Aaron Jones, RB Planning director will know of others
•Next Steps with City
•Coordinate with City on outreach strategy for SBE and General Plan Update
projects
•Group meeting in June with other cities in corridor to discuss next steps
•Recap of study to-date given by Metro
•Path forward may include stand-alone EIR after SAA is completed
•Current plan is for construction to start in approximately 10 years, but Metro
is getting project shovel-ready in case funding becomes available more quickly
•Torrance Transit Park and Ride Regional Terminal
•Phase I (rough grading) completed in April 2016
•Phase 2 (bus center and park and ride) finishing up design in Summer 2017.
Will go out for construction later in 2017, and construction should take 12-15
months.
•$18.1M in Measure R highway funding received by Torrance for project,
hopefully will be sufficient but need to see where construction bids come in
•City hoping this will serve as local match for South Bay Extension Measure
R/M funding
2City of Redondo
Beach
PPT, Fact Sheet,
& Roll Plots
(Redondo Beach) Brad
Lindahl, Ted Semaan,
Joyce Rooney, John
LaRock, Sean Scully,
Leslie Scott (Project
Team) Meghna Khanna,
David Mieger, Mark
Dierking, Tyler
Bonstead, Lisa Padilla,
Isaiah Ford
3 City of TorranceThursday, June 1st,
2017PPT
(Torrance) Kim Turner,
Craig Bilezerian,
Godfrey Offoegbu,
James Lee, David Mach
(Project Team) Manjeet
Ranu, Meghna Khanna,
David Mieger, Mark
Dierking, Tyler
Bonstead
Friday, May 19th,
2017
#Stakeholder
OrganizationMeeting Date
Materials
PresentedFeedback Attendees
1 City of Lawndale PPT & Roll Plots
(Lawndale) Sean Moore,
Christopher Wilson
(Project Team) Meghna
Khanna, David Mieger,
Mark Dierking, Tyler
Bonstead
Wednesday, May
10th, 2017
•250 car surface parking lot included in current design, city contemplating
1,400 space parking structure in future (approx. $30M cost)
•Metro is considering an additional 400-500 spaces at site when light rail
extended to Torrance
•2 acre mitigation area for tarplant on site – LAWA in talks to purchase for
further mitigation
•Design includes provisions for future bridge from bus plaza to rail platform
•MND did not look into refinery safety issues
•Ganahl Lumber
•Should be opening in next few weeks
•Includes new spur to allow for rail service into facility
•Torrance Refinery
•Refinery now owned by Torrance Refinery Company (recently purchased from
ExxonMobil)
•Bill currently in State legislature may ban some chemical processes currently
used at refinery
•Renovations may be needed in next 10 or so years to meet emissions
regulations
•City recommends talking to fire department about safety issues in refinery
area
•Hawthorne/190th Station Option
• Neither Torrance nor Redondo Beach are very interested in station in this
area – constrained location plus good bus connections can be provided from
the planned transit centers in both cities
•Other Notes
•La Brea/Florence Transit Center in Inglewood under construction as part of
Crenshaw/LAX project. Torrance Transit interested in potential service to area
(Torrance to Florence)
•Del Amo Boulevard bridge over Harbor Subdivision was designed for three
rail tracks underneath. Plans previously transmitted to Metro should still be
valid.
•City recommends tours of Gold Line in South Pasadena and Expo Line for
people interested in how South Bay Extension may fit into neighborhoods
•No major land use changes in study area proposed
•City recommends that Metro look more closely at bus/rail integration issues
closer to LRT project startup
•City is looking at introducing a new rubber tired trolley service between
transit center, downtown Torrance, Del Amo Fashion Center
•Ensure that recently implemented Torrance Transit Rapid 3 (Galleria to Long
Beach) is included in study
•City interested in first/last mile study potential in station area
•Key Stakeholders for Area:
•Torrance Refinery Company
•Ganahl Lumber
•Fire Department
•Torrance Community Services Department – John Jones (for El Nido Park
issues)
•Pueblo neighborhood along Del Amo Blvd east of Crenshaw
•Next Steps with City
•Group meeting in June or July with other cities in corridor to discuss next
steps – Torrance happy to host
•City can provide tour of transit center site in July
•Metro data needs from City:
•Latest transit center site plan
•Transit center environmental document
•Ganahl Lumber rail spur plans
•Recap of previous meeting provided by Metro, along with recaps of meetings
with Redondo Beach and Torrance
•Existing Conditions
•Railroad corridor through Lawndale can be broken into three sections:
•Near Inglewood/Manhattan Beach – requires grade separation
•162nd to 170th – greenway/amenity options
•170th to Artesia – Narrower ROW limits options
•Application of Metro Grade Crossing Safety Criteria for LRT leads to grade
separation of six crossings – Inglewood Avenue, Manhattan Beach Blvd, 159th,
160th, 161st, and 162nd Streets
•Only 170th Street should continue to operate at-grade
•Railroad ROW Alternatives
•Five alternatives shown (R-1 through R-5) with various options through
Lawndale along ROW
•Main differences:
3 City of TorranceThursday, June 1st,
2017PPT
(Torrance) Kim Turner,
Craig Bilezerian,
Godfrey Offoegbu,
James Lee, David Mach
(Project Team) Manjeet
Ranu, Meghna Khanna,
David Mieger, Mark
Dierking, Tyler
Bonstead
4 City of LawndaleMonday, June 26th,
2017PPT
David Mieger, Meghna
Khanna, Mark Dierking
#Stakeholder
OrganizationMeeting Date
Materials
PresentedFeedback Attendees
1 City of Lawndale PPT & Roll Plots
(Lawndale) Sean Moore,
Christopher Wilson
(Project Team) Meghna
Khanna, David Mieger,
Mark Dierking, Tyler
Bonstead
Wednesday, May
10th, 2017
•Aerial versus trench alignment through Inglewood/Manhattan Beach area
•At-grade versus trench from 162nd through 170th
•Type of amenities to include along ROW: landscaping, paths, parking
•Aerial alternatives would have LRT tracks approximately 20-25’ in the air. City
noted this could have trouble fitting with the character of the surrounding area
•All LRT alternatives include an overhead contact system to provide power for
the trains. City requested that options be examined to provide more
aesthetically pleasing options
•There are many pipelines in the ROW. City asked for details on relocation and
what would be done if pipelines are leaking.
•City requested that further detail be provided on noise impacts through area,
especially if/how trench could reduce impacts
•Other amenities along ROW such as lighting, dog or exercise stations, etc
could win over area residents
•Photo-simulations of the project through the area could also be helpful
•The city council has expressed on many occasions their interest in below-
grade options through City along ROW
•Hawthorne Blvd Alternatives
•Four alternatives shown (H-1 through H-4) that would route LRT along
Hawthorne Blvd south of I-405
•Mainly aerial or retained fill through Lawndale
•Aerial and trench alternatives near Artesia Boulevard, along with two route
alternatives: via Artesia back to railroad ROW or south on Hawthorne to 190th
•At-grade station in City at 166th/Hawthorne
•City said to consider potential development along corridor in coordination
with Hawthorne Blvd Specific Plan
•Metro should consider parking and landscaping impacts to areas that were
recently improved in median of Hawthorne
•Likely that businesses along Hawthorne would like this alternative – just need
to make sure that parking and landscaping are mitigated
•Other Items
•City Council approved 41-unit development on Hawthorne Blvd north of I-405
•Next Steps with City
•City will get back to Metro shortly with comments on alternatives they like or
dislike
•Combined Meeting with other cities in corridor later in July
•Brief City Council before going out to public
•Presentation should be 5-10 minutes
•Cut down on number of alternatives
•Talk about mitigations, amenities, and changes since environmental
document – need to show that Metro is fully considering effect on the
community
•Have at start of meeting – 1st and 3rd Monday of the month. August?
•Public Outreach
•August/September
•Should be more of an Open House/Charrette than a sit down meeting with
presentation, comments, etc
•Could be held at community center next to City Hall
•Concerns regarding above grade crossings over Hawthorne Blvd/405 Freeway
and residential neighborhoods adjacent.
•There are potential concerns of displacement of residential areas where not
at-grade along 405 freeway and residential neighborhoods.
•A Hawthorne Blvd alternative would make it difficult to connect with
Redondo Beach’s multi-modal transit hub.
•Interested in learning the project start date?
•Is the 3% contribution expected all at one time or throughout the project?
Can Measure M dollars be used?
•Lawndale residents will likely be opposed to the Hawthorne Blvd. alternative,
especially during construction.
•There were a couple of comments regarding traffic specifically on Hawthorne
Blvd. both from construction during the project and impacts after the project.
•When you say “shovel-ready”, how early can this project be moved up? A few
of the attendees felt that the South Bay has not had their fair share of public
transit from Metro, especially because of current traffic problems.
4 City of LawndaleMonday, June 26th,
2017PPT
David Mieger, Meghna
Khanna, Mark Dierking
5
South Bay Cities
Council of
Governments:
Transportation
Committee
Monday, August
14th, 2017
PPT and Fact
Sheet
David Mieger, Mark
Dierking, Isaiah Ford
6
South Bay
Association
Chambers of
Commerce
Tuesday, September
12th, 2017
PPT and Fact
Sheet
Meghna Khanna, Mark
Dierking, Isaiah Ford
#Stakeholder
OrganizationMeeting Date
Materials
PresentedFeedback Attendees
1 City of Lawndale PPT & Roll Plots
(Lawndale) Sean Moore,
Christopher Wilson
(Project Team) Meghna
Khanna, David Mieger,
Mark Dierking, Tyler
Bonstead
Wednesday, May
10th, 2017
•One comment referenced that there was low support for Measure M in the
South Bay (aside from Lawndale) because they believe they haven’t seen any
of public transit benefits and again don’t feel that they’ve received their fair
share.
•Attendees wanted to know when public presentations of the alternatives
would begin. One member noted that this project the public differently, and
volunteered to help Metro with strategizing and/or reaching out to the public
to gain support.
•Would you go past the lumber yard? Contact information for the lumber yard
was shared with Metro.
•Is the Automated People Mover (APM) ready to go and fully funded? Does it
go to the new football Stadium?
•Is Metro still looking at bike lanes or multi-modal access along the ROW?
Redondo Beach typically is very supportive of bike lanes and multi-modal
access.
•Metro should be cognizant of the constriction points impacting bicycle and
pedestrian access, especially on Grant Ave. where bikes will use an overpass to
access the Redondo Beach Transit Center.
•Would the AMC station replace the bus hub at 96th and Imperial?
•Will there be a shuttle or light rail access from one of the stations to the new
football Stadium?
•Metro’s Gold Line has a Transit Oriented Communities program; please
define?
•Jacki Bacharach (SBCCOG) brought this question up, because at one of the
South Bay COG’s management meetings with Metro, it was discussed that
transit projects can be accelerated or decelerated based on certain criteria.
One of the criteria for accelerating a Metro project is that there must be a
Transit Oriented Community within 2 miles of the proposed project. Jacki
mentioned this is something for attendees to think about in regard to
accelerating or decelerating this project.
•Regarding accelerating or decelerating projects, how do you reconcile
regional special events for accelerating or decelerating projects? Can we play
our card to accelerate this project and how can we meet these events if ground
breaking doesn’t begin until 2026?
•A few attendees voiced that this project and light rail would be beneficial for
their communities, especially with so many regional projects and events, such
as the LAWA APM, Hollywood Park Stadium, 2028 Olympics, and the possible
Los Angeles Clippers relocation.
•What part of Winter 2018 will the Metro Board approve the recommended
Alternatives?
•Regarding the terminal on Kingsdale (Redondo Beach Transit Terminal) by the
Galleria, would that be recalculated (with the alternatives)?
•One of the efforts the Coalition has been working on with Forest City is
accessibility for bicycles. Having the options of the alternatives (Hawthorne vs.
ROW) is a good option for possible access.
•Residents already have concerns with construction outside of the Galleria and
will have even more concerns with more construction from this project.
•With the freight line, will there be any options for bike or walking paths?
•Members from the Coalition would like to be a part of the planning efforts
when designing or considering bike paths or multi-modal paths. Several voiced
this is something especially important to them.
•What they would like to be implemented are Class I protected bike lanes.
•Could the gap on the Edison bike lane (Redondo Beach) be created by a
bridge or some type of elevated lane?
•Attendees mentioned Southern California Edison has been receptive recently
to building lanes on its property.
•Will work on the South Bay LRT only start in 2028?
•Attendees voiced concern over the projected start date for the project.
•Will Metro complete the Airport Metro Connector project before 2028?
•What can residents do in the meantime, before construction starts, to help
create opportunities for bike lanes or paths?
•What is encroachment in regard to residential property along the Condon
corridor?
•Is this a separation issue that could be solved with a hedge or something
temporary?
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Association
Chambers of
Commerce
Tuesday, September
12th, 2017
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South Bay Cities
Council of
Governments:
Infrastructure
Working Group
Committee
Wednesday,
September 13th,
2017
PPT and Fact
Sheet
David Mieger, Meghna
Khanna, Mark Dierking,
Isaiah Ford
8South Bay
Bicycle Coalition
Thursday, September
14th, 2017
PPT and Fact
Sheet
Meghna Khanna, Isaiah
Ford
#Stakeholder
OrganizationMeeting Date
Materials
PresentedFeedback Attendees
1 City of Lawndale PPT & Roll Plots
(Lawndale) Sean Moore,
Christopher Wilson
(Project Team) Meghna
Khanna, David Mieger,
Mark Dierking, Tyler
Bonstead
Wednesday, May
10th, 2017
•Are the tracks (LRT) separate from the freight tracks? Are there two tracks
(LRT) then going north and south? How wide are the tracks?
•Attendees voiced concerns regarding the ROW being wide enough for LRT
and freight tracks as well as implementation of a bike or multi-modal path.
•What is the people mover (Airport People Mover)?
•When is all the airport construction set to be complete?
•Regarding the Hawthorne Alternatives, where would the exact placement of
the line be located down Hawthorne Blvd?
•What would happen with all the parking?
•Would this potentially bring more parking? Possibly on the sides of the
street?
•Would this connect to the South Bay Galleria and transit station?
•If the South Bay LRT line was constructed on the westside (ROW alternative),
would that help with parking?
•Do you live in the area?
•These streets near the proposed alignment during high-traffic volumes would
cause major traffic.
•In order to have success for this project, you need to grade separate.
•In certain streets it is already grade separated. Hawthorne doesn’t make
sense; it would cost more, take more time, and doesn’t already have grade
separated crossings.
•Why is the South Bay LRT stopping and where is its terminus? San Pedro
could benefit from this as opposed to the Torrance station.
•This would give tremendous benefits to the City of Lawndale, especially the
residents.
•We really like the Metro transit art and design at stations.
•Will this bring employment to or near the proposed stations (Lawndale,
Redondo Beach Transit Station, and Torrance Transit Station)?
•Regarding the proposed stations, how is this going to benefit the residents?
Will this bring employment, or will this be a giant parking lot near the
stations/at the stations?
•Is there any federal money allocated to this project?
•Could the South Bay COG potentially pay for the 3% match?
•What is Metro’s outreach to community members?
•When you start meeting with homeowner groups, we would like to share the
materials with prospective homeowners.
•We could potentially help with this and explain the benefits.
•We are excited about this project and can help with the discussions.
•A Chamber member from Cal State Dominguez Hills voiced excitement about
this project and its potential connection to the University.
• Will there be additional parking at the Torrance Transit Center? Mayor Furey
responded that 250 parking spaces will be constructed by the City of Torrance.
• What are Metro’s safety and security plans (for both the rail cars and at
transit centers)?
• Is Metro not considering building a subway or underground, because of
potential earthquake or seismic concerns? It would make more sense to go
elevate above or below ground to not impact or alleviate traffic, like in other
cities, such as Boston.
• Regarding the Hawthorne alternative, what are the impacts for long term
parking and traffic lanes?
• (Mayor) Can you walk me through the Hawthorne/190th station and how
you would get to that station?
• (Mayor) A train down Hawthorne would cause a lot of problems. I don’t see
the feasibility for a station there with the current conditions.
• (Mayor) We want to get together with the South Bay Cities COG, local elected
officials in Sacramento, and other elected officials to help get the train down
the ROW, so we don’t further impact traffic on Hawthorne Blvd.
• If Lawndale says they don’t like either option, can they stop the project
completely?
• We welcome you back for further updates.
• Will the property values around the alignment increase?
• Did the thoughts or concerns from Lawndale influence the alternatives?
• What is Metro’s decision process?
• There is no information or message boards at the Green Line stations.
• How long can you park at Marine Station?
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Thursday, September
14th, 2017
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Sheet
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Ford
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South Bay
Association of
Realtors
Tuesday, October
3rd, 2017
PPT and Fact
Sheet
Corey Zelmer, Meghna
Khanna, Mark Dierking,
Isaiah Ford
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Torrance
Chamber of
Commerce GAP
Committee
Wednesday, October
11th, 2017
PPT and Fact
Sheet
Meghna Khanna, Mark
Dierking, Isaiah Ford
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North Redondo
Beach Business
Association
Thursday, October
12th, 2017
PPT and Fact
Sheet
Meghna Khanna, Mark
Dierking, Isaiah Ford
#Stakeholder
OrganizationMeeting Date
Materials
PresentedFeedback Attendees
1 City of Lawndale PPT & Roll Plots
(Lawndale) Sean Moore,
Christopher Wilson
(Project Team) Meghna
Khanna, David Mieger,
Mark Dierking, Tyler
Bonstead
Wednesday, May
10th, 2017
• Metro has spent billions of dollars on transit projects, but it looks like
ridership is going down, is that correct?
• When are the construction and completion dates for this project?
• It is difficult to find parking, at the transfer station at Imperial/Wilmington; is
there a solution for this?
• I am concerned about property values as this is in my neighborhood.
• There is already really bad traffic and noise, at the current freight crossings;
will it get worse with the extension of the light rail?
• Are you having any focus group meetings for individuals with ADA concerns,
seniors, and temporary disabilities?
• My question was more about what happens once you’re at a station. There
needs to be better directions and signage.
• Is there any way to accelerate this project?
• (Council Member Horvath) Metro is looking at Public-Private Partnerships to
help with unsolicited projects and accelerating projects.
• One of the slides shows a 3% match, can you expand on what that means?
• The 3% match would be a requirement from our city, Redondo Beach?
• (Horvath) We’re looking at different ways we can contribute to the 3% match
through other projects that we’re currently developing.
• Would the portion of the 3% match be allocated by the distance of the tracks
in Redondo Beach?
Council Comments/Questions:
(Szerlip)
• I hope as Metro continues the process of this project that you can bring the
Green Line to the Ports and connect back to the Blue Line.
• Is the Northernmost freight now Chevron? So, you don’t have to re-route
those freight lines?
• On slide 9, since there is already a bridge at Hawthorne/190th, would that
need to be at-grade?
• Grade separation is imperative at each of the crossings. For the at-grade
crossings are you proposing the following?
• Will the crossings have bells and lights, and are trains required to honk their
horns?
• At the residential crossings, there are not gates, and they will not honk the
horns?
• When you planned and constructed the Gold Line did you receive a lot of
feedback and push back?
• If there is a way to quantify the information regarding the current conditions
and feedback from the Gold Line, this would help with the fear from residents
along the South Bay corridor. It will be very helpful to provide this information.
(Deemer)
• Regarding Slide 16, from the existing line to the Torrance Transit Center, is
most of that at-grade? So, there are only 6 crossings?
• Is Prairie and Madrona likely grade separated since there is a bridge there;
why would you need to grade-separate?
• The Torrance Refinery has a set of tracks, spurs, and storage tracks, and there
are no more freight trains running that I’m aware of.
• From the refinery north of the South Bay corridor, the freight lines could
easily be served from another track.
• I would like to see the option to relocate BNSF.
• Once construction on the Transit Center starts, how will the South Bay
Galleria connect with the different alternatives and options?
(Medina)
• Regarding slide 11 or 13, Metro provided a walking tour through Pasadena to
show the Gold Line and it was very quiet. I would suggest taking videos of the
Highland Park or Pasadena Gold Line to show what it sounds like. Residents
might not be as fearful if they could see examples.
• The honking of train horns doesn’t really do any good, and the bells at
crossings are very loud.
(Duran)
• Where is the Torrance Transit Center?
• What is the status of the South Bay Galleria? Where will the Redondo Beach
Transit Center be located?
• I think it would be impossible to go under at Manhattan/Inglewood. The
current conditions regarding traffic, utilities, and buildings would trigger the
need for above grade.
(Jeng)
• Regarding the 3% match, is that for Measure M or Measure R dollars?
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North Redondo
Beach Business
Association
Thursday, October
12th, 2017
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Sheet
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Dierking, Isaiah Ford
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Service Council
Friday, October 13th,
2017
PPT and Fact
Sheet
Meghna Khanna, Mark
Dierking, Isaiah Ford
#Stakeholder
OrganizationMeeting Date
Materials
PresentedFeedback Attendees
1 City of Lawndale PPT & Roll Plots
(Lawndale) Sean Moore,
Christopher Wilson
(Project Team) Meghna
Khanna, David Mieger,
Mark Dierking, Tyler
Bonstead
Wednesday, May
10th, 2017
• Regarding the $891M, does that included grade separation at
Manhattan/Inglewood?
(Love)
• Will know more when you come back.
(Langlais)
• I think it would be a disservice to utilize alternatives that do not streamline
the connection to the Redondo Beach Transit Center.
(Franklin)
• I’m concerned with fusions of these alternatives.
• We received push back from the City of Redondo Beach that they would not
let this project and alternatives go through the approval process without their
input.
• This project has the potential to separate the city of Redondo Beach along
the corridor with additional traffic.
• Redondo Beach would not receive the benefit from the 3% match.
• Redondo Beach has concerns with the alignment options and connecting to
the RB Transit Center.
• Is Metro prepared to go to Torrance and go outside of the City of Lawndale?
• Regarding LAWA and the Airport People Mover, is there an agreement
between the two agencies on this? I heard there was a disagreement on which
agency would be paying for the Airport People Mover.
(Szerlip)
• Regarding Lawndale not getting a benefit from the 3%, maybe it could be
explained to them how exactly it will benefit them?
• I have concerns regarding the 3% match as Lawndale will be on the hook for
a lot of money.
• The Redondo Beach Transit Center has a lot of funds dedicated from the
Federal Government to prepare for this and it was always destined to be multi-
modal.
• You (Metro) are obviously looking at the area around the lumber yard in
Lawndale with a trench, grade-separation, and sound walls, since Lawndale has
raised concerns there.
(Franklin)
• The tracks along the alignment are at-grade, correct? Where are they not?
• How many buses will serve the station that is penciled in for Lawndale?
• How much will it cost to build the station in Lawndale?
• Is there an option to not build a station in Lawndale?
• Is there potential for overlap if both Lawndale and Redondo Beach stations
are built? The physical building of the Lawndale station is in Lawndale, correct?
• Regarding the Torrance Transit Center, will the allocated $891M connect the
street level with the Transit Center?
• Is there consideration for parking at the Torrance Transit Center of
approximately 600-700 parking spaces?
• Regarding the 182nd street crossing, will the option of over or under be
finalized when you come back?
(Medina)
• As a follow up to Lawndale, my suggestion is to hold a town hall meeting
with residents. Osborne from Lawndale is the only amenable advocate of the
project.
(Jeng)
• As part of the outreach, you should consider other groups in Lawndale.
• To confirm, in one of the alternatives, you are proposing to traverse an MTA
ROW? Is there a differentiation with the 3% contribution with that?
• Do you know if the Gold Line has paid all of the 3% match?
(Szerlip)
• Regarding the existing freight line, there is a grade separation at Grant Street,
I would assume Metro’s funding would include that?
• My concern regarding 182nd Street is that it is not flat, so noise and safety
concerns would be different concerns, especially with foliage blocking sight
lines.
• The street is not as accommodating for the Hawthorne Blvd alternative as
you leave the City of Lawndale.
(Deemer)
• Are there customers being served by El Segundo freight?
• Since it is a freight line along the current ROW, can the light rail utilize the
same tracks?
• Regarding the $891M, is this number the full funding for the project, or
would there be an escalation cost for this?
(Franklin)
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Friday, October 13th,
2017
PPT and Fact
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#Stakeholder
OrganizationMeeting Date
Materials
PresentedFeedback Attendees
1 City of Lawndale PPT & Roll Plots
(Lawndale) Sean Moore,
Christopher Wilson
(Project Team) Meghna
Khanna, David Mieger,
Mark Dierking, Tyler
Bonstead
Wednesday, May
10th, 2017
• Has Metro taken the time to look into easement rights and acquisition that
may be needed for the project?
(Duran)
• What is the main idea for the extension? What is the big draw for this
project? What is Metro envisioning?
Public Comments/Questions:
• For the past several years I have heard comments about the South Bay Light
Rail project from Don Szerlip and comments about Lawndale. There have been
concerns about transit racism. I would like to see the project built, and I would
like Metro to work with Lawndale and hopefully this can be resolved.
• I’m glad parking was mentioned and I’m glad you’re starting early and talking
about this. The presenter and presentation was great. I have concerns with not
placing gates at certain crossings.
• I wanted to echo Medina’s comments regarding the Gold Line; it is way less
impactful than it seems. Continuing down the ROW in Lawndale seems
reasonable; however, it would be nice to go down Hawthorne for better
access.
• Is the groundbreaking for the South Bay LRT Extension slated for 2026?
• Is the entire $891m budgeted for the project for the South Bay LRT
extension?
• Does Metro already own the current ROW?
• Is the construction schedule for building the Extension about four years?
• If the Mayor of Los Angeles is pushing for construction of this project to
coincide with the 2028 Olympics, does that mean the groundbreaking could be
earlier?
• With the Airport Metro Connector (AMC), could I park my car at the future
Redondo Beach Transit Center or South Bay Galleria and take the train to the
airport? Or the Coliseum in Downtown LA?
• Will the Green Line or other line have a stop at the Inglewood Stadium?
• Was the project team able to gather tickets sales information for Rams
season ticket holders?
• The AMC is the same type of concept planned at the South Bay Galleria and
Redondo Beach Transit Center with multi-modal access.
• Is the existing freight line on the current ROW operational?
• Approximately how many trips are currently conducted on the freight line?
• Approximately how many trips are currently conducted on the Green Line?
• Are the freight trains different from the LRT trains?
• We are aware of the issues with Lawndale, which is the reason for the
aforementioned questions regarding the difference in trains. The simple
solution would be to write Lawndale a check.
• Are the different grade-separations shown in the presentation included in
the $891M costs?
• Is Metro using existing grade-separations along the ROW?
• If Metro selects the Hawthorne alternative(s), do you already have ROW
acquisition along Hawthorne and possibly other streets, such as Artesia?
• Is there flexibility with the 3% city contribution?
• Can the South Bay Cities involved use different measures, such as future
developments, like the Redondo Beach Transit Center to offset the costs?
• Can in-kind development be used to offset some of the costs?
• Is the project team planning to reach back out to stakeholders?
• Is the Metro project team planning to complete the Supplemental
Alternatives Analysis (SAA) by summer 2018?
• For the final EIR/EIS, will the environmental study include CEQA and NEPA
clearance?
South Bay Galleria/Forest City Presentation
• The existing square footage of the South Bay Galleria is 971,000 sq. ft.
• The planned redevelopment for the South Bay Galleria is 1.3M total sq. ft.;
roughly an additional 300,000 sq. ft. 150,000 sq. ft. is planned for hotel use.
• Hotels in the area of the Galleria are already marketing their locations as
accessible to the beach and Downtown Los Angeles.
• 50,000 sq. ft. of office space is in the new design of the South Bay Galleria
redevelopment as part of the traffic analysis in their EIR.
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2017
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South Bay
Galleria/Forest
City
Thursday, October
26th, 2017
PPT, Fact Sheet,
& Roll Plots
Meghna Khanna, Mark
Dierking, Tyler
Bonstead, Isaiah Ford
#Stakeholder
OrganizationMeeting Date
Materials
PresentedFeedback Attendees
1 City of Lawndale PPT & Roll Plots
(Lawndale) Sean Moore,
Christopher Wilson
(Project Team) Meghna
Khanna, David Mieger,
Mark Dierking, Tyler
Bonstead
Wednesday, May
10th, 2017
• The neighbors to the west of the South Bay Galleria on Kingsdale Ave. are
opposed to the development of residential units within the South Bay Galleria
redevelopment and along the Kingsdale corridor. The Galleria is currently re-
designing based on the comments from the Kingsdale neighborhood groups.
• Forest City is creating a linear park with bike paths and pedestrian walkways
along the portion of Kingsdale Ave. that leads to the proposed Redondo Beach
Transit Center.
• Regarding the South Bay Galleria’s redesign, all land uses need to be within
similar areas to the submitted Draft EIR in order to keep ingresses and egresses
that were approved by Caltrans, so as not to trigger a Supplemental EIS.
• Forest City currently has an easement agreement with SoCal Edison for use of
the space just south of the Galleria, to include providing landscaping and
pedestrian improvements.
• LASO owns the developments just south of the Galleria (Target, Sprouts,
Living Spaces, etc.) and Forest City is trying to connect the new South Bay
Galleria with this property to create one large interconnected shopping,
working, and living area.
• Forest City will need a Conditional Use Permit to begin construction, and
their development is exempt from the current Redondo Beach housing
moratorium.
• Forest City will be going before the Redondo Beach Planning Commission on
December 7th, 2017.
• The Final EIR will likely be released approximately 4 weeks from this meeting
date on around November 23.
• Construction is planned to begin in 2020, with completion of the
redevelopment in 2023.
• Forest City is anticipating several Planning Commission hearings before
approval of the Final EIR by the Redondo Beach City Council.
Hawthorne Alternatives Questions and Comments
• Would the Redondo Beach station be in the median of Hawthorne Blvd?
• Possible placement of the Redondo Beach station within the South Bay
Galleria development is definitely something to think about.
• Forest City has entitlement and land-use concerns about how a station would
change the redevelopment of the South Bay Galleria .
Current ridership on the existing bus transit outside of the Galleria is not
meeting the adequate levels desired by Forest City. They would like to see
ridership models for the proposed South Bay LRT Extension to make sure
ridership is adequate.
• If the Redondo Beach station was developed in the median on Hawthorne
Blvd., there are concerns with traffic, since it is already an F traffic grade, and
there are no more mitigation measures available.
• In Lawndale, many businesses along the Hawthorne Blvd. ROW depend on
the left turn lanes. They would recommend meeting with those business
owners to evaluate their concerns.
• It would be cheaper to build soundwalls and provide various mitigation
measures along the Condon Ave. ROW in Lawndale, such as purchasing the
homes along the Condon Ave. Corridor rather than moving the ROW to
Hawthorne Blvd.
• Forest City and meeting attendees would be interested should Metro build
along the Hawthorne ROW.
• It would be difficult for Forest City to plan access points into the South Bay
Galleria, if Metro chose the Hawthorne Alternative that connects west down
Artesia Blvd.
• Where would Metro connect back to the freight ROW if you chose the
Hawthorne and Artesia alternative?
• Forest City is open to listening to how the alternatives could integrate with
the proposed South Bay Galleria redevelopment.
• Metro should explore and consider a station at the existing Walgreens on
Hawthorne Blvd. and Redondo Beach Blvd.
• How would Metro tie into the existing and planned bus system in Redondo
Beach?
• Regarding the proposed Redondo Beach Transit Center, something to
consider is that there will be increased parking capacity at the Transit Center.
There will not be parking at the other proposed Redondo Beach station
locations, correct?
• The South Bay Galleria could charge vehicles accessing the South Bay LRT to
park at the Galleria.
• How realistic is the Hawthorne Alternative compared to the freight ROW?
• If Metro chooses the Hawthorne alternative, would Metro have to grade
separate the entire length of Hawthorne?
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South Bay
Galleria/Forest
City
Thursday, October
26th, 2017
PPT, Fact Sheet,
& Roll Plots
Meghna Khanna, Mark
Dierking, Tyler
Bonstead, Isaiah Ford
#Stakeholder
OrganizationMeeting Date
Materials
PresentedFeedback Attendees
1 City of Lawndale PPT & Roll Plots
(Lawndale) Sean Moore,
Christopher Wilson
(Project Team) Meghna
Khanna, David Mieger,
Mark Dierking, Tyler
Bonstead
Wednesday, May
10th, 2017
• Regarding Forest City’s discussion with the Redondo Beach Mayor, the
Mayor asked why the South Bay LRT Extension can’t be underground?
• If Metro develops the LRT line that is above-grade or at-grade, there will be
significant push back from residents in Redondo Beach and along the
Hawthorne corridor.
• What are the benefits to property owners along the ROW with the South Bay
LRT Extension? Would property owners receive benefits from their city? What
would some of the benefits be that Metro could put on the table?
• The three proposed alternatives for stations around the South Bay Galleria
and Redondo Beach Transit Station are close enough in proximity that it
doesn’t make a difference to Forest City.
• Redondo Beach Councilmembers, specifically those representing Districts 1
and 2, are opposed to more density, TOD, and transit.
• Forest City would like to get through their entitlement process before Metro
publicizes other station alternatives, especially the station option within the
South Bay Galleria.
• Forest City would like to meet again after they’ve completed the entitlement
process.
• The residential neighborhood east of Hawthorne Blvd. on 177th street
provides access to the freeway, but the street is not equipped to handle heavy
traffic. The neighbors in the 177th street neighborhood had concerns
regarding traffic during Forest City’s outreach process.
• Forest City is planning to implement multi-use paths along Kingsdale and
connect to the bike path along Grant Ave.
• The path along Kingsdale is planned to be completed by March 2020.
• When Metro revisits stakeholders in January, will the analysis include
defined stations?
• What is the timeframe for making a decision on the stations?
• If Metro plans to show stations near the South Bay Galleria, that may hinder
Forest City’s entitlement and Final EIR process.
• Forest City asks that plans with a station on South Bay Galleria property not
be shown to the public.
• Forest City expects to be through the final entitlement process by
March/April 2018, and would be willing to discuss and show the public plans of
a station on the South Bay Galleria property then.
• When Metro conducts the grade separation analysis for this project, will
current Metro examples be taken into consideration, such as the Orange Line
and the Blue Line? The concern is that Metro will make the same mistakes
made on the Green Line.
• Concern regarding homelessness in North Redondo Beach and how the
current Expo Line has impacted and/or increased homelessness in the
communities around it. How will Redondo Beach prevent the same
homelessness from impacting our communities?
• We don’t want to be associated with some of the concerns that come with
homelessness.
• Does the $891M for the project take into account inflation, since the
groundbreaking doesn’t occur until 2026?
• As a taxpayer I don’t want Metro to have unlimited funds. The ROW
alternative was opposed by residents in 2010, so Metro shouldn’t be back
proposing this alternative.
• Regarding the Redondo Beach Transit Center, it should be built at Marine
and Redondo Beach Blvd., so it can be shared with Redondo Beach and
Lawndale.
• Measure M is going to provide some money, but Measure R is going to
continue to fund this with the decision already made to continue the project
and build the Green Line Extension.
• Why don’t you have someone recording these meetings and have more
meetings? The members who sit on the Metro Board are not here to hear our
comments. Why do we have to keep giving the same comments?
• The majority of constituents in the room are concerned about the ROW
alignment, not necessarily transit.
• (Lawndale Mayor Robert Pullen-Miles) I was really hoping you would study
the Hawthorne Alternative from previous discussions.
• It doesn’t make sense to build rail if it doesn’t benefit Lawndale
economically.
• We (Lawndale) definitely prefer to have the rail underground.
• The noise and vibration is the biggest concern, since the current trains that
run now are already loud.
• Hawthorne Blvd should be the chosen alternative.
• The buses and trains are currently empty, and our community is not dense
enough to utilize the rail.
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City of Redondo
Beach Council
District 3
Saturday, December
16th, 2017
PPT and Fact
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David Mieger, Meghna
Khanna, Mark Dierking,
Isaiah Ford
#Stakeholder
OrganizationMeeting Date
Materials
PresentedFeedback Attendees
1 City of Lawndale PPT & Roll Plots
(Lawndale) Sean Moore,
Christopher Wilson
(Project Team) Meghna
Khanna, David Mieger,
Mark Dierking, Tyler
Bonstead
Wednesday, May
10th, 2017
• Homelessness is a major problem on the existing trains and buses.
• The Hawthorne Alternative is the best alternative. However, there are
concerns with the train going past 190th Street. I would ask Metro to consider
continuing down Hawthorne, instead of connecting back to the ROW, so the
rail could service hospitals, shopping, etc.
• We are excited about active transportation in our community. However, the
ROW alternative would make a very narrow opportunity for a trail amenity and
would take away the peacefulness of the existing green space along the ROW.
The Hawthorne Alternative would allow us to build more trails along the ROW.
• We are advocating for a safe Metro and we feel that Hawthorne Blvd is the
best alternative. The homelessness concerns will be an issue if you build along
the ROW.
• I’m excited Metro is finally building a light rail in the South Bay; we just need
to make smart choices when considering placement.
• The Hawthorne Alternative is the way to go, but residents on the East Side,
as opposed to the Beach Side, feel neglected. However, the East Side
neighborhood shouldn’t be the only area to be looked at for light rail.
• When will Metro conduct a traffic study with the Hawthorne Alternative?
Traffic including cut-through traffic is already a major problem in these
communities.
• Metro connects to cultures, like in other cities; how will you connect with
cultures from the ROW Alternative?
• How will Metro study impacts from the new Galleria? Will Metro wait until
the Galleria is already built? Or study now?
• It should be a part of the analysis to study a transit center shared by
Lawndale and Redondo Beach.
• It seems that Metro believes the best way to spend the Measure M money is
with LRT. Why doesn’t Metro consider studying a smart system of buses, such
as the Silver Line model?
• (Council Member Horvath) Why is Metro not studying BRT as an alternative?
• In the presentation there were slides from existing Metro Light Rail trains
that go through neighborhoods, can you show the alternatives from those
projects?
• The ROW Alternative would be detrimental to the neighborhoods and the
livelihood for residents living along the ROW.
• It seems like a no-brainer to stop studying the ROW and save money.
• Regarding Mayor Garcetti’s Twenty-Eight by 28 goal, if this project is built
along the ROW in a hurry to meet Mayor Garcetti’s goal, I would be very
disappointed.
• The Redondo Beach Transit Center has already been funded and is ready to
be built. I think it should be put on hold until the South Bay LRT project is
decided, so they can connect efficiently.
• There have been concerns with the current transit center and traffic, so the
transit center should be studied with the South Bay LRT project.
• The transfers are different, so it should all be studied together.
• We have to remember and take into consideration that public transit is for
young people and understand that younger people want to use transit, not
cars.
• In regard to a comment made about the efficiency of rail vs. bus, I was riding
on the Silver Line and didn’t transfer to get on the rail; it was a huge mistake,
because it added an hour and a half to my commute.
• If the rail runs down Hawthorne Blvd., what will happen with parking at the
Galleria?
• How would Metro factor the South Bay Galleria development into the EIR/EIS
and, more specifically, the additional 300 housing units which are part of the
development? Would this change ridership projections or other factors?
• Do any of the alternatives serve the City of Hawthorne?
• How and where will Metro decide between the aerial and at-grade
alignments along Hawthorne Blvd.?
• Once the environmental phase (EIR/EIS) begins, will Metro factor in a no
residential impact on Hawthorne Blvd. as a benefit in the environmental
process vs. the residential neighborhoods along the ROW? So, there is a no
impact-free solution with either alternative?
• Metro Operations has some concerns with the speeds and turns for the
connection back to the ROW along Artesia in Alternative 4.
• How much additional property does Metro currently own along the ROW? Is
there space to accommodate an aerial station?
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City of Redondo
Beach Council
District 3
Saturday, December
16th, 2017
PPT and Fact
Sheet
David Mieger, Meghna
Khanna, Mark Dierking,
Isaiah Ford
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South Bay Cities
Council of
Governments:
Transportation
Committee
Monday, January 8th,
2018
PPT and Fact
Sheet
David Mieger,, Meghna
Khanna, Mark Dierking,
Isaiah Ford
#Stakeholder
OrganizationMeeting Date
Materials
PresentedFeedback Attendees
1 City of Lawndale PPT & Roll Plots
(Lawndale) Sean Moore,
Christopher Wilson
(Project Team) Meghna
Khanna, David Mieger,
Mark Dierking, Tyler
Bonstead
Wednesday, May
10th, 2017
• For the below-grade option in Alternative 2, what is the cost differential for
trenching/below-grade vs. the Hawthorne alternatives (Alternatives 3 and 4)?
• What would the additional cost be to continue the trench/below-grade
alignment past 166th Street along the ROW?
• What kind of outreach is Metro conducting for and the cities and areas
outside of the corridor, such as the City of Hermosa Beach?
• Do all of the alternatives shown in the presentation have a station close to
Inglewood Ave. and Manhattan Blvd.?
• Has property already been identified where the stations would be located?
• Please provide more detail about the walking distance from Hawthorne Blvd.
to the Redondo Beach Transit Center, and from the Redondo Beach Transit
Center to the South Bay Galleria.
• Would someone be able to fall into the trench in Alternative 2?
• Where would the parking lots be located, so you could park and ride?
• Will Metro use South Bay workforce when construction begins on this
project?
• Are there similar existing Metro LRTs to show examples of what the
alternatives could potentially look like?
• Please provide more detail about the continuation of all alternatives from
190th Street and how that the project will interact with the existing refinery
along the ROW.
• Do the LRT tracks go behind Ganahl Lumber?
• Do the cost estimates in the presentation include ROW property
acquisitions?
• From the City of Torrance’s perspective, we would want Alternative 1 or 2.
• We would like to see the Torrance Transit Center open by 2028. The key
component in terms of expediting the environmental processes, is that if the
City of Lawndale puts up barriers they will slow down the project.
• Is environmental clearance a two-year process?
• By comparison to other completed Metro projects, have other jurisdictions’
litigation slowed the overall project?
• Regarding the parking impacts along Hawthorne Blvd., when those spaces
are removed for the light rail, will they be replaced on-street or provided
elsewhere?
• On a project of this scale, is it a requirement to replace parking that is
removed by the project?
• Metro should consider parking impacts, since you may not get support from
residents that only drive.
• Where would the extra $100M+ come from on Alternatives 2 - 4?
• If there is support for an alternative but Metro doesn’t have the extra money,
how will you proceed?
• Interested in additional details about the grant and letter of support for
funding this project.
• 2015 dollars were used for the Measure M and R baseline costs. By the time
this project is constructed, won’t the baseline costs be a lot more?
• Has Metro negotiated with BNSF before on other projects?
• Describe how Metro will evaluate the criteria for all of the alternatives.
• Support for Alternative 1
• Will the trench in Alternative 2 be covered or open?
• How will Metro prevent “tagging” or graffiti along the ROW, trains, stations,
etc.?
• Will all of the alternatives have stations or are there only stations for the
alignments along Hawthorne Blvd.?
• Why would groundbreaking not begin until 2026?
• Is there a difference in construction timing with all of the alternatives?
• Are there multi-modal opportunities in alternative 3 and 4, like there are for
alternatives 1 and 2?
• What does multi-modal include?
• Is Metro communicating with the “Right of Say” group?
• When is the Redondo Beach Transit Center ready to break ground?
• If Metro proceeds with Alternatives 1 or 2, they should save the trees in the
ROW.
• Is it possible to include freight tracks in the trench with LRT tracks?
• How will the homes along the ROW be mitigated?
• Why doesn’t the trench continue in Alternative 2, just south of
approximately 166th?
• Are the SAA and the alternatives a Metro Board policy? If so, the Board could
be influenced either way on the alternatives?
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South Bay Cities
Council of
Governments:
Transportation
Committee
Monday, January 8th,
2018
PPT and Fact
Sheet
David Mieger,, Meghna
Khanna, Mark Dierking,
Isaiah Ford
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South Bay
Association
Chambers of
Commerce
Tuesday, January 9th,
2018
PPT and Fact
Sheet
Meghna Khanna, Mark
Dierking, Isaiah Ford
17
Torrance
Chamber of
Commerce GAP
Committee
Wednesday, January
10th, 2018
PPT and Fact
Sheet
Meghna Khanna, Mark
Dierking, Isaiah Ford
18
North Redondo
Beach Business
Association
Thursday, January
11th, 2018
PPT and Fact
Sheet
Meghna Khanna, Mark
Dierking, Isaiah Ford
19 City of LawndaleThursday, January
11th, 2018
PPT, Fact Sheet,
& Digital Roll
Plots
David Mieger, Meghna
Khanna, Mark Dierking,
Isaiah Ford
#Stakeholder
OrganizationMeeting Date
Materials
PresentedFeedback Attendees
1 City of Lawndale PPT & Roll Plots
(Lawndale) Sean Moore,
Christopher Wilson
(Project Team) Meghna
Khanna, David Mieger,
Mark Dierking, Tyler
Bonstead
Wednesday, May
10th, 2017
• The parking along the median would all be lost if Metro selects one of the
Hawthorne alternatives.
• The City of Lawndale includes the parking in the median as overflow for its
parking counts.
The billboard is on City property, but the billboard is not owned by the City and
the City expressed no concern with its removal. The billboard is planned to be
removed by 2023.
• From a planning perspective, the light rail originally would have gone down
Hawthorne Blvd.
• There are mixed-use planning and development opportunities.
• LRT down Hawthorne Blvd. would enhance property values along Hawthorne
Blvd., provide TOD opportunities, and bring more businesses to the street and
its immediate area.
• As far as density and TOD, the City of Lawndale could see density and mixed-
use levels similar to Brea or outside Downtown Chicago.
• City concerned that the South Bay Galleria’s spillover parking will encroach
into the Lawndale neighborhood.
• Does Metro have positive gentrification studies from projects like this in
Lawndale?
• The City is requesting any analysis or study regarding gentrification in
communities similar to Lawndale.
• Why would Metro elect to stay at-grade along Hawthorne Blvd. instead of
elevated?
• Lawndale doesn’t see a priority for turning at Artesia/Redondo Beach Blvd.
and Hawthorne Blvd.
• As the Manhattan/Inglewood station shown in the alternatives is so close to
Redondo Beach stations, why not eliminate it?
• There may be circulation impacts with a station at Manhattan/Inglewood.
• The savings from not including a station in Lawndale could be put into
mitigation measures.
• They noted that ridership doesn’t appear to change based on travel times.
• When will Metro make a presentation to the Lawndale City Council to
provide feedback on the alternatives?
• Lawndale’s understanding was that Metro would present to the Council.
• The Lawndale Mayor is very active and attends meetings throughout the
South Bay.
• Metro will inform Lawndale Council Members about Metro’s upcoming
stakeholder meetings should they like to attend.
• Why isn’t Metro meeting with the whole community?
• Do the other cities, Torrance and Redondo Beach, along the corridor just
want the project to be built?
• Is this project being accelerated based on the 2028 Olympics?
• Is there a mitigation measure that Lawndale would receive as some type of
charged fee?
• What mitigation measures might offset some of the impacts from the LRT in
Lawndale?
• Repaved roads, additional landscaping, additional parking are mitigations
that could help with residents’ buy-in to the project.
• If Metro constructs an aerial structure for Alternative 1, would that leave 45
feet for a multi-modal path?
• Does Alternative 3 leave an opportunity for a multi-modal path?
• Does the LRT stop at lights when at-grade?
• Is Hawthorne Blvd. a state route or highway?
• Are there any venues in the South Bay to be utilized by the 2028 Olympics?
• It seems like there must be something wrong with Alternative 1, because
otherwise it looks like it would be the best option.
• The Bicycle Coalition is supportive of any transit project, including this
project, especially if there is a multi-modal element tied in with the project.
• Would bike parking and bike lockers be available at the proposed stations? It
would be important to provide those.
• The Bicycle Coalition will be most supportive of the alternatives that include
multi-modal opportunities.
• Members of the Right of Say have reached out to businesses along
Hawthorne Blvd. regarding the project.
• There are concerns that the South Bay is getting less funding from the
Measure M compared to other areas around Los Angeles, especially with
projects that have tunnels and subways.
• Have any of the recent Metro public private partnership projects been
affected by the new administration?
• We love the Green Line and want it to be built, just in the right place.
19 City of LawndaleThursday, January
11th, 2018
PPT, Fact Sheet,
& Digital Roll
Plots
David Mieger, Meghna
Khanna, Mark Dierking,
Isaiah Ford
20South Bay
Bicycle Coalition
Thursday, January
11th, 2018
PPT and Fact
Sheet
Meghna Khanna, Isaiah
Ford
21Right of Say
Group
Friday, January 12th,
2018
PPT and Fact
Sheet
David Mieger, Meghna
Khanna, Mark Dierking,
Isaiah Ford
#Stakeholder
OrganizationMeeting Date
Materials
PresentedFeedback Attendees
1 City of Lawndale PPT & Roll Plots
(Lawndale) Sean Moore,
Christopher Wilson
(Project Team) Meghna
Khanna, David Mieger,
Mark Dierking, Tyler
Bonstead
Wednesday, May
10th, 2017
• In regard to Alternative 4, it doesn’t make sense to loop back for the
Redondo Beach Transit Center that is in a bad location.
• Is Metro proposing to be above the intersections past Manhattan/Inglewood
Blvd. for all the alternatives? These are important and high trafficked
intersections.
• Does Metro have cross-sections of the over-crossings in Alternative 1?
• Alternative 3 would have potential property impacts by the freeway and
south of Artesia Blvd including a car dealership that is a significant tax revenue
source for the City of Torrance.
• The parking lots are not usually full in Lawndale and the South Bay Galleria.
Most people in the City of Lawndale park elsewhere.
• Based on Metro’s expertise, what do you think will be the final alternative
when the environmental process is complete?
• Is the Redondo Beach Transit Center ready to begin construction, and does it
necessarily matter where the LRT line will be?
• Can the LRT go below ground through the entire ROW segment in Lawndale
past 170th in alternative 1?
• Ruxton Lane, next to the Breakwater senior housing community, should be a
neighborhood/ community to include in discussions.
• Kingsdale Ave. neighborhoods are also very vocal.
• Neighborhoods across from the Galleria on Hawthorne Blvd. have been
opposed to more development in general.
• The Rancho Palos Verdes community uses Hawthorne Blvd. as access to the
surrounding areas and to the 405 freeway.
• When the SAA goes to the Metro Board, how will they choose the
alternatives? Would they defer to a Board Member that represents the South
Bay, such as Mayor Butts?
• Alternative 3 along Hawthorne Blvd. lends itself to opportunities for mixed-
use development.
• What is the future options for the Green Line after this phase?
• There’s development further down into Rancho Palos Verdes that could
benefit from this project.
• Crenshaw Blvd. could also be a corridor to consider further extension.
• There has been some discussion and concerns regarding property values
decreasing because of this project; attendees wanted assurances that this was
not true.
• Does Alternative 3 still pass by the Redondo Beach Transit Center?
• Alternative 4 allows the train to come back to the ROW to connect with
Redondo Beach Transit Center and it’s all aerial?
• Where are the Metro tracks in Alternative 1?
• Does the 405-freeway block access in Alternatives 3 and 4?
• Will Metro have to take properties along the 405-freeway?
• Will the LRT connect with the bridge at 170th Street or will there be an
additional bridge?
• Metro Parking is looking at parking demands and requirements; is parking
included in these alternatives?
• Is Metro able to shift the freight tracks, because they’re on Metro owned
property?
• Will pedestrians have to go over the freight tracks to get to the stations?
• We have concerns with pedestrians crossing the light rail tracks.
• Is the configuration and safety barriers similar to the Expo Line?
• Is the trench like the Alameda Corridor?
• When discussing property impacts and possible acquisition, are you referring
to eminent domain?
• Would Metro replace loss of parking with parking structures?
• There are concerns with removing parking in the Hawthorne Blvd. median.
• Regarding Alternative 3, historically there have been vocal protestors in the
area near Redondo Beach Blvd., Artesia Blvd., and Hawthorne Blvd.
intersection.
• How would Metro address the curve at 190th and Hawthorne Blvd.?
• Are there property impacts when the LRT connects back to the ROW at
190th?
• The large revenue generator for the City of Torrance are the car dealerships,
so there is concern about the potential property impacts on the dealerships at
190th and Hawthorne Blvd.
• The dealerships potentially could be moved to a more accessible location as
well. The Maserati dealership that moved is now at a more ideal location on
Hawthorne Blvd. and 235th St., and the BMW and Mini dealerships could join
them.
• Torrance Transit has bus stops that would potentially be impacted by the
Alternative 3 alignment.
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Sheet
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Dierking, Isaiah Ford
21Right of Say
Group
Friday, January 12th,
2018
PPT and Fact
Sheet
David Mieger, Meghna
Khanna, Mark Dierking,
Isaiah Ford
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City of Torrance
/ Torrance
Transit
Thursday, January
25th, 2018
#Stakeholder
OrganizationMeeting Date
Materials
PresentedFeedback Attendees
1 City of Lawndale PPT & Roll Plots
(Lawndale) Sean Moore,
Christopher Wilson
(Project Team) Meghna
Khanna, David Mieger,
Mark Dierking, Tyler
Bonstead
Wednesday, May
10th, 2017
• In addition, Torrance Transit has concerns with bus stop and connection
impacts with Alternative 4.
• The South Bay Galleria is creating a model for TOD; however, the Redondo
Beach Transit Center is located behind the Galleria.
• Redondo Beach has invested a lot of money in the Transit Center, and
Torrance Transit wants the best alternative for both Redondo Beach and
Torrance.
• The potential impacts from alternative 3 would be major; Torrance and
Metro would lose a lot of the support for this project from those residents.
• The Torrance City Manager has been opposed to light rail on Hawthorne
Blvd. for a long time.
• Torrance Councilmember, Kurt Weideman, has been opposed to light rail on
Hawthorne Blvd. as well.
• If the Hawthorne alternative is further evaluated, Metro may want to have a
third meeting with Torrance elected officials.
• Will most of the median parking on Hawthorne be taken away?
• Metro did an excellent job with the Expo Line and developing LRT in the
street.
• Are there more impacts in Lawndale or Redondo Beach for Alternative 3 and
4?
• One of the major impacts for Alternative 3 is that LRT will skip the Redondo
Beach Transit Center.
• Where are the property impacts for Alternative 3?
• How long is the S curve segment from Hawthorne Blvd. and Redondo Beach
Blvd. to the ROW?
• That curve is not ideal; the train speeds would need to be around 10mph.
• If Metro negotiates improvements for BNSF, Torrance Transit will work with
Metro.
• All the alternatives are great options, but regarding Alternatives 1 and 2,
Lawndale doesn’t want aerial or a trench?
• Why put a potential station at 160th St.? There is not a lot of pedestrian
traffic there.
• Why can’t Metro use the additional $100M allocated for Alternatives 3 and 4,
and build a tunnel through the ROW in Lawndale?
• Does Alternative 1 and 2 include sound walls?
• Residents in Lawndale need to ride Metro light rail lines and have meetings
with their neighborhood associations in order to understand the low level of
impacts.
• Torrance Transit is working with Jackie Bacharach and Robert Pullen-Miles on
getting the project moving forward.
• Reach out to Hamilton Cloud, Field Representative to Maxine Waters, to get
residents on board with attending the tours.
• Property listings now include walkability scores and rail connections, that
could be a positive talking point on the tours.
• Which alternatives are going to be carried into the environmental phase?
• Is the South Bay COG providing funding for the acceleration of the project?
• What is the acceleration date?
• Does the current timeline for ground breaking and opening dates include all
four of the alternatives? That will slow down the project.
• If this is a voter approved project, can the environmental phase be
accelerated?
• In the alternative 1 slide, it was mentioned that Lawndale had issues, were
those addressed with the current alternatives?
• The Lawndale meeting that was held with Metro previously was more
informational; will Metro conduct an additional meeting including Lawndale
City staff?
• Will the Supplemental Alternative Analysis include multiple alternatives that
will be carried into the environmental phase?
• It’s important that community members be able to provide their input on the
alternatives.
• How many alternatives will be presented to the Metro Board? A couple or all
four of the alternatives?
• Would the light rail run down the middle of Hawthorne Blvd?
• Where exactly would the LRT connect back to the ROW in Alternative 3, at
190th St.?
• Regarding the street (Condon Ave.) that runs parallel to the ROW in
Lawndale, does that leave enough room for a train, lane of traffic, paths,
landscaping etc.?
• Concerned there is not enough room for all those improvements.
• Which is more expensive between Alternative 1 and 2?
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Sheet
Meghna Khanna, Mark
Dierking, Isaiah Ford
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South Bay Cities
COG Board of
Directors
Thursday, January
25th, 2018
PPT and Fact
Sheet
David Mieger, Meghna
Khanna, Mark Dierking,
Isaiah Ford
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South Bay
Association of
Realtors
Tuesday, February
6th, 2018
PPT and Fact
Sheet
Meghna Khanna, Mark
Dierking, Isaiah Ford
22
City of Torrance
/ Torrance
Transit
Thursday, January
25th, 2018
#Stakeholder
OrganizationMeeting Date
Materials
PresentedFeedback Attendees
1 City of Lawndale PPT & Roll Plots
(Lawndale) Sean Moore,
Christopher Wilson
(Project Team) Meghna
Khanna, David Mieger,
Mark Dierking, Tyler
Bonstead
Wednesday, May
10th, 2017
•Is Alternative 2 more expensive to compensate for earthquake and other
mitigation measures?
• Does the cost consider all the unknowns?
• Why is Alternative 2 being considered?
• When you say property impacts, does that mean eminent domain? Or partial
property acquisitions?
• What are the commercial property impacts in the Alternative 4 S curve
configuration?
• There’s not a lot of parking on Artesia Blvd.
• From the presentation, BNSF would receive improvements from the Metro
LRT being built alongside them. Have conversations of purchasing BNSF owned
property taken place?
• What are the impacts of Alternative 1 and 2? Which alternative is better in
terms of impacts?
• Environmentally what are the differences?
• For the trench alternative, will that be covered or open?
• Some of the expenditures are more than what is available; where will the
extra funding come from?
• Is Metro going to change their rail boarding system so that you must pay
before getting on?
• What kind of feedback is Metro getting from Lawndale?
• Having lived in NYC, I would pick aerial over underground.
• Regarding Alternative 1, are there current examples of Metro LRT lines other
than the Blue Line?
• When the Metro Board decides on the alternatives, are there ways to speed
up the various processes and build ahead of time?
• When will the Crenshaw/LAX line be built?
• How has the Mayor of Lawndale been involved in the project?
• Has the Mayor of Hawthorne been involved?
• The Hawthorne Mayor would be a good ally for the project.
• Elon Musk may be a good ally as well.
• The South Bay Galleria is now 100% owned by QIC.
• What are the parking concerns in Lawndale?
• Is Metro considering a station in Lawndale?
• What are the differences in impacts of residential in Lawndale ROW versus
residential in alternative 3?
• Would alternative 3 run in the middle of Hawthorne Blvd. and at-grade?
• Alternative 3 still has residential and property impacts on Hawthorne Blvd.
• Manhattan Blvd. and Inglewood Ave. have the worst traffic in Redondo
Beach.
• Does the aerial design in alternative 1 have greater or less impacts than an at-
grade or trench alignment?
• If the South Bay Galleria station in alternative 3 was considered, would there
be connectivity to the Redondo Beach Transit Center?
• Does alternative 3 remove the left turn lanes? There is some concern with
removing those.
• Would Metro provide additional parking for the station at the South Bay
Galleria, or would the Galleria provide more parking?
• Would parking be provided at the proposed Lawndale station at
approximately 168th St. in alternatives 3 and 4?
• Are the multi-modal improvements and additional parking included in
alternative 3?
• The 10-foot sidewalks don’t encourage pedestrian mobility in alternatives 3
and 4.
• Lawndale wouldn’t get neighborhood improvements with alternative 3. Less
than 10 years ago, Lawndale asked Metro for neighborhood improvements to
help build their first park.
• The South Bay Galleria will be finalizing their plans and they haven’t
mentioned anything about transit connection; have they mentioned anything
to Metro?
• It would be difficult to integrate transit after the Galleria has approved plans.
• The dynamics and funding could change based on what is approved for the
Galleria and makes it that much more difficult to integrate a station.
• There are property impacts when connecting back to the ROW from
Hawthorne Blvd. in alternative 4.
• When mentioning at-grade along the ROW, is that at the current freight
height and grade? The current freight tracks are slightly higher.
• What are some of the funding assumptions that will close the gap from the
available funding (Measure R + M) and additional costs for all 4 alternatives?
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South Bay
Association of
Realtors
Tuesday, February
6th, 2018
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Sheet
Meghna Khanna, Mark
Dierking, Isaiah Ford
25SBLRT Redondo
Beach City Staff
PPT and Fact
Sheet
Meghna Khanna, Mark
Dierking, Isaiah Ford
Thursday, February 7,
2018
#Stakeholder
OrganizationMeeting Date
Materials
PresentedFeedback Attendees
1 City of Lawndale PPT & Roll Plots
(Lawndale) Sean Moore,
Christopher Wilson
(Project Team) Meghna
Khanna, David Mieger,
Mark Dierking, Tyler
Bonstead
Wednesday, May
10th, 2017
• If the Twenty-Eight by 28 acceleration is followed through, would the project
just need an additional $9M to fund alternative 1?
• City of Redondo Beach staff recommends Metro present the SAA to the
Redondo Beach Public Works Commission in April or May.
• Potentially present to City Council as well in May.
• Redondo Beach is currently updating its General Plan and they’re analyzing
the land use element to include TOD around the Redondo Beach Transit
Center, to include higher density, an employment center, and higher density
residential.
• The Redondo Beach Transit Center should be breaking ground any day now.
• Does Redondo Beach need to submit a Letter of No Prejudice for the 3%
contribution from the Redondo Beach Transit Center?
• Will there be parking at the potential Inglewood Ave/Manhattan Blvd.
station?
• Is there parking at any potential station before Redondo Beach?
• If you need more parking, there are opportunities for developments to
approve and share parking.
• Alternative 4 has medical and office property impacts that would significantly
increase costs.
• In addition, alternative 4 doesn’t have the multi-modal access that Redondo
Beach was looking for.
• Alternative 1 is the preferred alternative.
• Is this project high on the list of priorities for the Twenty-Eight by 28 list?
• The Redondo Beach Transit Center will have pedestrian access connected to
the ROW and South Bay Galleria.
• Do you have a slide for the connection to the LAX
• Do the costs associated with alternatives 3 or 4 include property acquisitions
and the property values?
• Will Metro have a more finalized cost that includes all of the property
impacts when staff goes to the Board for approval?
• Why is Alternative 2 more costly than Alternative 1?
• Supervisor Hahn is in support of the alternatives along the ROW.
• In addition, based on a meeting with all 3 cities, she is seeking to move
forward with consensus.
• Supervisor Hahn’s office is hoping that the alternatives make it to the Metro
Board without controversy.
• Councilmember asked about freight track operations as they would relate to
the project
• Councilmember asked about one-seat rides between Norwalk and the AMC
Station, with strong support in favor of such a one-seat ride
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Redondo Beach
Chamber of
Commerce
Friday, February 16,
2018
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Sheet
Mark Dierking, Isaiah
Ford
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Metro Gateway
Cities Service
Council
Thursday, May 10,
2018PPT Meghna Khanna
25SBLRT Redondo
Beach City Staff
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Sheet
Meghna Khanna, Mark
Dierking, Isaiah Ford
Thursday, February 7,
2018
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Thank you for attending this meeting related to the Supplemental Alternatives Analysis.
Presentation: 6:00 - 6:30 PM Open House: 6:30 - 8:00 PM
Project Study Area
The Metro Gold Line South Pasadena Station is a focal point of the city’s down-town district.
The Metro Expo Line allows for multi-modal opportunities, such as the new bike path adjacent to the rail alignment.
Architecture is integrated with Metro rail transit in Pasadena.The Metro Expo Line provides access to offices and retail centers at the Culver City Station.
Project Study Area
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Existing Metro Rail
Proposed Alternatives Overview
Overcrossing grade separation per Metro policy
Transition to at-grade - 162nd St to 170th St
Tracks adjacent to Torrance Refinery
Freight tracks cross under aerial LRT tracks
Narrow right-of-way between 170th St & Artesia Blvd
At-grade segment opportunity for pathways and landscaping
Key Design Considerations
Conceptual Cross Section A-A(Looking South)
Conceptual Cross Section B-B(Looking South)
Existing/Under Construction
Harbor Subdivision Railroad(Metro-owned)
Metro Green Line & Station
Other Railroad Tracks
Crenshaw/LAXService Extension
At-Grade Alignment
Project Area
Aerial Alignment
Proposed Stations
Green Line Extension to Torrance
Vertical Transitions
Road Overcrossing/Undercrossing
At-Grade Crossing
Areas of Potential Property Effects
1
2
3
4
5
6
2
3
4
5
6
1
A A
B B
Alternative 1: ROW Overcrossing
Conceptual Cross Section A-A(Looking South)
Conceptual Cross Section B-B(Looking South)
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2
3
4
1
5
A A
B B
Existing/Under Construction
Harbor Subdivision Railroad(Metro-owned)
Metro Green Line & Station
Other Railroad Tracks
Crenshaw/LAXService Extension
At-Grade Alignment
Project Area
Aerial Alignment
Proposed Stations
Green Line Extension to Torrance
Trench Alignment
Vertical Transitions
Road Overcrossing/Undercrossing
At-Grade Crossing
Areas of Potential Property Effects
Undercrossing grade separation per Metro policy
Transition to at-grade - 162nd St to 170th St
Tracks adjacent to Torrance Refinery
Freight tracks cross under aerial LRT tracks
Narrow right-of-way between 170th St & Artesia Blvd
At-grade segment opportunity for pathways and landscaping
Key Design Considerations
1
2
3
4
5
6
Alternative 2: ROW Undercrossing
Potential property effects along I-405
Potential property effects near 190th St
Tracks adjacent to Torrance Refinery
Freight tracks cross under aerial LRT tracks
Potential loss of parking along Hawthorne Blvd
Additional grade separation analysis required
Potential visual effects along Hawthorne Blvd where LRT is aerial
Key Design Considerations
Conceptual Cross Section A-A(Looking South)
Conceptual Cross Section B-B(Looking South)
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2
3
4
5
6
7
Existing/Under Construction
Harbor Subdivision Railroad(Metro-owned)
Metro Green Line & Station
Other Railroad Tracks
Crenshaw/LAXService Extension
At-Grade Alignment
Project Area
Aerial Alignment
Proposed Stations
Green Line Extension to Torrance
Vertical Transitions
Road Overcrossing/Undercrossing
At-Grade Crossing
Crossing Closures
Areas of Potential Property Effects
2
3
4
6
7
1
5
A A
B B
Alternative 3: Hawthorne to 190th
Potential property effects along I-405
Tracks adjacent to Torrance Refinery
Freight tracks cross under aerial LRT tracks
Potential loss of parking along Redondo Beach Blvd & Artesia Blvd
Potential property effects at transition areas (Hawthorne Blvd to Redondo Beach Blvd & Artesia Blvd to Metro ROW)
Potential visual effects along Hawthorne Blvd
Key Design Considerations
Conceptual Cross Section A-A(Looking South)
Conceptual Cross Section B-B(Looking East)
Existing/Under Construction
Harbor Subdivision Railroad(Metro-owned)
Metro Green Line & Station
Other Railroad Tracks
Crenshaw/LAXService Extension
At-Grade Alignment
Project Area
Aerial Alignment
Proposed Stations
Green Line Extension to Torrance
Vertical Transitions
Road Overcrossing/Undercrossing
At-Grade Crossing
Areas of Potential Property Effects
1
2
3
4
5
6
2
34
6
1
5
B
B
A A
Alternative 4: Hawthorne to Artesia
Alternative 1: ROW Overcrossing
Alternative 2: ROW Undercrossing
Alternative 3: Hawthorne to 190th
Alternative 4: Hawthorne to Artesia
Fully Funded
Capital Cost
Crossing Closures
Parking Removed
At-GradeCrossings
Travel Time
Connections to Destinations
PotentialBike/Ped Paths
7 min
$890M
2 2 6
4
Approx. 100 spacesApprox. 85 spaces
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- -
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1
$1,090M $1,000M $1,120M
7 min 9 min(variable based on stop lights)
8.5 min
CD
PB
S
PaRe
Inglewood Ave DestinationsRedondo Beach TCTorrance TC
Inglewood Ave DestinationsRedondo Beach TCTorrance TC
Hawthorne Blvd Commercial CoreSouth Bay GalleriaTorrance TC
Hawthorne Blvd Commercial CoreRedondo Beach TCTorrance TC
Redondo BeachTransit Center
Manhattan Beach/Inglewood Station
Redondo Beach(Marine) Station
TorranceTransit Center
Redondo BeachTransit Center
Manhattan Beach/Inglewood Station
Redondo Beach(Marine) Station
TorranceTransit Center
South BayGalleria Station
Hawthorne/166th Station
Redondo Beach(Marine) Station
TorranceTransit Center
Redondo BeachTransit Center
Hawthorne/166th Station
Redondo Beach(Marine) Station
TorranceTransit Center
Comparisons
Travel Time
Vehicle Miles Traveled (VMT) is the number of miles driven by all cars in an area daily
Connections to Destinations VMT Change(Daily)
T
C
Alts 1 & 2 Alt 3 Alt 4
Pote
ntia
l Pat
hway
South Bay
Galleria
Redondo Beach TC
To Torrance TC
InglewoodAve
Destinations
Hawthorne BlvdCommercial Core
South Bay
Galleria
Redondo Beach TC
To Torrance TC
Hawthorne BlvdCommercial Core
South Bay
Galleria
To Torrance TC
Redondo Beach TC
Unique Destinations Served
Alt 4Alt 3Alt 2Alt 1
-48,230VMT
-48,230VMT
-47,810VMT
-42,810VMT
Alt 1 7 minutes
Redondo Beach Transit Center
Redondo Beach (Marine) Station
Manhattan Beach/ Inglewood Station
Torrance Transit Center
1 min 2.5 min 3.5 min
Alt 4 8.5 minutes
Hawthorne/166th Station
Redondo Beach Transit Center
Redondo Beach (Marine) Station
Torrance Transit Center
2 min 3 min 3.5 min
(variable basedon stoplights)
Alt 3 9 minutes
Hawthorne/166th Station
South Bay Galleria Station
Redondo Beach (Marine) Station
Torrance Transit Center
2.5 min 2.5 min 4 min
Alt 2 7 minutes
Redondo Beach Transit Center
Redondo Beach (Marine) Station
Manhattan Beach/ Inglewood Station
Torrance Transit Center
1 min 2.5 min 3.5 min
Evaluation Criteria - Transportation System Performance
Capital Costs(2015 $ million)
Additional cost of grade separation at Redondo Beach Blvd and Artesia Blvd (further analysis required)
Annual operations and maintenance costs,
compared to No Build
Annual Capital + O&M CostsDaily ridership estimates for the Proposed Project
Note: Figures are preliminary and subject to change
Alt
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Alt
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Und
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Alt
3 H
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190t
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Alt
4 H
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to A
rtes
ia
$1,090
$1,220
$1,000
$1,120
$890
O&M Costs($ million)
Alt
1 R
OW
Ove
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asel
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Alt
2 R
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Und
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Alt
3 H
awth
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to
190t
h
Alt
4 H
awth
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to A
rtes
ia
$12.5 $12.9
$9.3$9.3
Ridership
Alt
1 R
OW
Ove
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ssin
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asel
ine)
Alt
2 R
OW
Und
ercr
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ng
Alt
3 H
awth
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to
190t
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Alt
4 H
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to A
rtes
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10,63010,64010,34010,340
S CCC
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Measure M+R Funds
Alt
1 R
OW
Ove
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asel
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Alt
2 R
OW
Und
ercr
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ng
Alt
3 H
awth
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to
190t
h
Alt
4 H
awth
orne
to A
rtes
ia
$12.04
$13.47 $13.69$14.59
Annual Riders on Project
Cost per RiderCC
C
S
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Evaluation Criteria - Cost-Effectiveness
Metro is planning a new transit station that will connect the Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) to the regional transit system. The Airport Metro Connector (AMC) Transit Station (near Aviation Blvd/96th St) will provide a connection to a future Automated People Mover (APM) to be built and operated by Los Angeles World Airports (LAWA). The AMC Transit Station is envisioned to include the following basic components:
These facilities are scheduled to open by 2023. The Green Line Extension to Torrance would directly connect South Bay residents to the AMC Transit Station. These visualizations display the planned layout of the improved connection.
The future AMC Transit Station would be a multi-modal hub, allowing direct access to terminals via an automated people mover, without having to enter the loop road in the
central terminal area.
The AMC mezzanine would help passengers transfer between Metro rail, buses, ground transportation, and the automated people mover.
The automated people mover would connect passengers directly to their terminals. Conceptual rendering via LAWA.
The AMC Transit Station would be located on the Crenshaw/LAX Transit Corridor at approximately Aviation Blvd and 96th St. The station would be directly served by Metro rail,
including the Green Line Extension to Torrance.
Three at-grade Light Rail Transit (LRT) platformsBus plaza and terminal facility for Metro and municipal bus operatorsBicycle hub with secured parking
Pedestrian plazaPassenger vehicle pick-up and drop-off area Metro transit center/terminal building (”Metro Hub”)that connects passengers between the various modes of transportation
Airport Metro Connector - Improved Connections to LAX
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Appendix B: Public and Agency Outreach
Appendix B.3.5. Presentation
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Appendix B: Public and Agency Outreach
Appendix B.3.6. Comment Cards
Green Line Extension to Torrance Supplemental Alternatives Analysis
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Appendix B: Public and Agency Outreach
Appendix B.3.7. Roll Plot Comments
Green Line Extension to Torrance Supplemental Alternatives Analysis
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Appendix B: Public and Agency Outreach
Appendix B.3.8. Speaker Comments
Guest Speaker Comment/Feedback
Colleen Otash •Preference for alternative 3.
Mayor Bill Brand
•Alternative 3 seems to be the best choice based on noise impact and planning
mitigation.
•Alternative 1 is low cost but there would need to be mitigation for a sound wall.
•How could we increase funding mitigation for alternative 1?
Jennifer Dodge
•Considering the ROW is 100 feet wide, adding another rail to that area where the
freight train exists is too much.
•The board should consider Alternative 3. It will work with the redevelopment of the
Galleria and support businesses on Hawthorne Blvd.
Alan Rosenberg
•Supportive of Alternative 3 because it will go down Hawthorne Blvd and support the
businesses.
•Will there be a sound wall?
Glen Brackenridge•Is in favor of Alternative 3, it will increase ridership on Hawthorne Blvd which is
designed for a rail and it will be safer for the residents.
Mike V. Durich Jr•Is in favor for Alternative 3, it does not make sense to build the rail on ROW because
there are no businesses in the area.
Robert Acherman
•Supportive of alternative 3 going down Hawthorne.
•The rail should be trenched/aerial and the transit station should be on Hawthorne
Blvd because it will increase ridership.
Kelly Kessler
•Is Metro concerned about safety?
•The children will be unsafe if the rail is trenched on Hawthorne Blvd., the rail would
have to be elevated.
Lora Zaremski
•In favor of Alternative 3 based on the noise and safety compared to the other
alternatives
•Doesn’t see the point of extending the rail to Torrance.
•Need a rail or public transit that will go to Downtown Los Angeles.
Green Line Extension to Torrance Project - Supplemental Alternatives Analysis Redondo Beach Community Meeting - April 19, 2018: Public Speakers
Guest Speaker Comment/Feedback
Ray Hollar
•Supportive of Alternative 3, but concerns about traffic on Artesia.
•If the rail is elevated how would it improve the traffic?
•More transparency on cost and studies about ROW and pipeline.
Mark Love •Grateful that Metro is investing in the South Bay and excited about the project.
Nicki Mitchell
•Concerned about rail and bike paths in the backyards of residential neighborhoods.
•182nd street is narrow and concerns regarding the traffic impact.
•Concerns of property values dropping.,
•Chosen a lifestyle to be away from Downtown Los Angeles.
Anne Sullivan
•Prefers alternative 3 over other alternatives.
•Alternatives 1, 2, and 4 will have people looking into backyards. People should look
down on Hawthorne Blvd. businesses.
Valerie Fernandes•Metro should address other major points like the quality of life.
•Tax money shouldn't go to Metro it should go to residents.
Sally Davis•Rail will diminish quality of life that residents pay for.
•The rail isn’t appropriate for this area and the residents should fight this project.
Monique Waite
•Not in residents’ backyards.
•Measure M was passed to improve roadways and not intended for this project.
•It will cause noise pollution.
•The best option would be to invest in more commuter express bus transportation.
They’re safer, cheaper, and more energy efficient.
•The money from measure M should go towards more bike paths rather than a rail
system.
Tiffany Maloch•Supportive of Alternative 3.
•Alternative 1 doesn't make sense because of the freight train.
Rebeka Potter
•What is the timeline for this project?
•Where can we find the EIR?
•What are other ways we can advocate and provide feedback about this project?
•For those who support Alt 3 or 4 what can we do to source out money for those
alternatives?
•Will the Metro board have the final decision on the alternatives?
Guest Speaker Comment/Feedback Notes
Bruce Szeles
•Consider an Alternative 3 hybrid and build the Redondo Beach
transit center away from homes and West High School.
•North Torrance residents already use the Redondo Beach
Station so the train should still go down Hawthorne Blvd.
•Consider extending the rail to Palos Verdes.
Alex Makarczyk
•Concerned for the quality of life.
•Concerns regarding the frequency of the rail and does not
want to see a sound wall blocking the view of the neighborhood.
•What are the city officials doing about his project?
•Where is Metro's concern and consideration for the residents?
Caney Arnold•Metro should consider more options for bus transit or other
public transportation options in general not just rail.
Anne Sullivan
•Prefers alternative 3 the most.
•The other alternatives wouldn't be a good use of budget.
•Concerns regarding traffic and parking, and there would need
to be mitigation for either a wall or electrical fence which the
community wouldn't like.
Anthony Lim
•Concerned about the train stops and the impact it will have on
the neighborhoods.
•Does not prefer to have a rail.
S. Ahmed
•Concerned about funding and who will fund this project it goes
over budget.
•How is the transit project contributing or reducing the smog
and other environmental problems in the area?
Michael Garlan
•Opposes the Harbor ROW because of vibrations and noise
diminishing the quality of life in the area.
•Concerns regarding at-grade alignment on 183rd street and
increased traffic in that area.
•Preference for alternative 3 as the better choice and will
benefit new residents living near the Galleria and contribute the
commercial corridor.
Gerard T. Johnson
•Concerned that the alternatives do not have a station plan for
the Del Amo.
•Concerned that the transit extension is not going to places that
people want to go.
•Concerned that the plan is failing if the Del Amo is not included
this project.
Green Line Extension to Torrance Project - Supplemental Alternatives Analysis Torrance Community Meeting - April 26, 2018: Public Speakers
Guest Speaker Comment/Feedback Notes
Stephanie
•How is this project benefiting the residents if the rail is not
going anywhere useful?
•Concerns that the crime in the neighborhood will increase.
Note from
Stephanie: "Impact
of Del Amo Ext."
Jerry Rodgers
•Concerned that the alternatives do not serve the public, like
hospitals.
•Galleria doesn't have enough ridership and there are not a lot
of new business or homes being built by the refinery.
Suzanne Haring
•Supporter of public transportation.
•Concerned about the noise level and the traffic impact it will
have on Lawndale and Redondo Beach right of way.
•The rail would cause increased traffic on 182nd Street.
Note from Suzanne:
"I'm for Alternative
3 not 1, 2, or 4
which brings the
train on the ROW
displacing hundreds
of homes and 182nd
Street at grade
crossing"
Mike Milroy
•Concerned by the example of the impact of the Expo line on
the City of Santa Monica and the increased homeless
population.
•City services in Santa Monica are overwhelmed with the
homeless population and are constantly dealing with them.
•When the rail is built, does the city have a plan for dealing with
the homeless population?
John Hugh
•Supportive of alternative 3.
•Went on the Metro rail tour and saw how the rails will
connect.
•Alternative 3 will revitalize Hawthorne and the Lawndale
community.
Sally Davis
•Concerned that there is no funding for the other Alternatives
and will be stuck with Alternative 1.
•Alternative 1 includes 3 tracks with the rail coming down 7-
days a week 24 hours a day every 10 minutes.
•Does not see the purpose of the project since the rail wouldn’t
go anywhere useful.
•Concerned that the rail will increase crime rates.
•Would like more bus transit instead of building a rail since it's
cheaper and you can move large populations.
Isaiah Rochen •Concerned that Torrance will have a skid row.
Guest Speaker Comment/Feedback Notes
Mary Emily Smiley
•The Green Line on the ROW is the best option.
•Metro already owns it and it wouldn't condemn Hawthorne Blvd.
•The ROW alternative is the cheapest out of the four options.
Esteban Florida•Option 3 to have the rail go down Hawthorne Blvd would be the
best alternative.
Duane Greenberg •Do you have a technical report available?
Michael Garlan
•Oppose Alternatives 1, 2, and 4 and would prefer option 3.
•The other alternatives would make it very difficult to mitigate the
noise the rail would cause in the neighborhoods.
Bob Pinzoun
•All of the options have their own separate issues.
•Preferance would be on an elevated train in front of the Galleria
rather than having the trains down the residential homes.
•The project lacks communication and has lots governmental
issues.
•In the end everyone has to give a little there are no tens in this
discussion.
Elaine Fanning
•Against the option to have the train go down Hawthorne Blvd.
•The businesses in the area are not happy about the rail.
•This would negatively impact all of the businesses and also bring
up safety issues.
•Cameras would be needed everywhere monitoring the people
coming from train, especially all of those people coming from Long
Beach and Norwalk because they would be the only ones riding
the train.
•We need to protect our community and to keep them out.
Gary White
•Main concern is public safety.
•Metro doesn't have the best record in terms of safety.
•If the rail comes to Lawndale then would support Alternative 3
and let the rail go down Hawthorne Blvd to support the
businesses.
•Provide impact and crime study reports of neighborhoods that
have had to deal with the same situation we’re going through.
Pedro Borjas
•The rail going down Hawthorne Blvd is a bad idea; the
elementary school children are going to cross the tracks causing
safety issues.
•It's also pointless to have the rail go down Hawthorne, there are
no attractions in that area.
Green Line Extension to Torrance Project - Supplemental Alternatives Analysis Lawndale Community Meeting - May 22, 2018: Comment Cards
Guest Speaker Comment/Feedback Notes
Jay Gould
•Metro has no creditability.
•Metro thinks it can come here and tear our neighborhood apart
with a train.
•Elon Musk could dig an underground rail and find a better way to
build an underground rail that would not to disrupt the
community.
•Metro brings pedophiles into the community.
Steve Redid
•Why does Metro want to build another parking lot?
•The rail should go to the Del Amo.
•The current Green Line already doesn’t take residents anywhere,
so please don't make the same mistake again.
Alan Rosenberg
•People are still not aware of this project and that’s a big concern.
•Work in a commercialized office next to a rail and hear the noise
from trains even working in a busy office.
•The noise level the trains would produce coming down the tracks
in the residential areas especially at nighttime would be worse.
•The mitigation alone to control the noise levels and to build walls
in the residential areas wouldn't be enough.
•I am all for turning Hawthorne Blvd into a commercialized
corridor.
Sally Davis
•Concerned about the amount of noise the train will produce.
•The City of Seattle is dealing with the same issue.
•Bring the train down Del Amo or to Downtown Hawthorne. This is
the best opportunity for the residents to fight together.
Alex M. Makarczyk
•Prefer alternative 3 and not in the residential areas.
•Concerns regarding the vibrations, the horns, and bells.
•Protect the neighborhoods and keep Hawthorne a
commercialized corridor.
•The multiple gas lines that exists along the freight track, when
building the rail by the tracks would be dangerous.
Pam Londer
•Opposed to all of this.
•This project would cut off all of the emergency services.
•Is Metro going to pay for more Law enforcement?
•Property values will drop.
•The ridership for this project is not accurate.
•Why is Metro not partnering up with Elon Musk?
•How will residents sell their properties?
Ray Hollar
•Concerned about safety with Alternatives 1 & 2 because the
crossing is at grade.
•Concerned with safety and crossing of Alternatives 3 & 4.
•All for commercializing Hawthorne Blvd.
Nancy Lee•Alternative 3 serves more people and it's not sending people
from parking lot to parking lot.
Christopher Morris
•Did not receive notice about this meeting or this project.
•Concerned about the property values and the noise levels from
the train.
Lisa Garlan
•Alternatives 1 and 2 will bring 3 tracks into residential backyards.
•The train belongs on Hawthorne and alternative 3 needs to go to
the Del Amo.
•The cost of alternative 3 is the most expensive but Metro spent
over 3-4 billion dollars to build the purple line.
Dom Fiores
•Consciously chose not to buy a home next to the tracks.
•Residents that purchased property by the tracks should have
expected this.
•Why there's a stop on Hawthorne/166th? There’s nothing there,
there are no businesses.
Alt 1: goes to grade
Alt 2: goes to trench
Alt 3: Hawthorne Blvd to Redondo
beach to 190th (6 Street crossing)
Alt 4: Hawthorne Blvd all segment.
Cost: What does that mean for
taxes?
Guest Speaker Comment/Feedback Notes
Lena Pullen
•Doesn’t agree with Hawthorne Blvd alternatives because there
are 8 schools located on both sides of Hawthorne Blvd and will
negatively affect the kids.
•The rail would destroy neighborhoods.
•If the rail comes to Lawndale, Lawndale will begin to look like
Compton.
Amy Lacoe
•Doesn’t want rail in residential backyards.
•How many houses and businesses will have to be removed to
build the rail?
Zack Zavala
•How many people at the meeting in Lawndale take the Metro?
•If Metro builds the green line extension, no one will use it, we all
drive cars.
•The green line extension is a waste and do not need it in
Lawndale.
John Schreiber
•Based on all of the funding for the Alternatives, Alternative 1 will
most likely be the preferred alternative.
•Alternative 3 is the better option but costs more.
•Assembly member Al Muratsuchi's website includes an article
posted regarding additional funding of $231 Million dollars for the
Green Line Extension to Torrance.
•That additional funding should be enough for Alternative 3.
Ignatius Lin
•Most prefer alternative 3 because the noise concern.
•The problem with Alternative 3 is that it will cut the city in half.
•Alternative 4 is better choice, but the plan is still incomplete.
•It's a bad choice for the green line extension to continue down
Hawthorne Blvd.
•The rail should go on a bridge to help mitigate the noise.
Kevin Mitchell
•The train would be in my backyard and to hear the train every 7
minutes will destroy the residents.
•Alternative 3 makes the most sense.
•An issue with Alternative 3 is the gas lines located near the
freight track. With the vibrations from the train it can be very
unsafe.
Anne Sullivan
•The freight train does not compare to the proposed light rail
running every 7 minutes.
•People would be able to see into backyards.
•The pipeline next the freight track is a concern.
•An similar project in San Bernardino ended in tragedy.
•It’s called the "San Bernardino Train Disaster."
Sarah Straton
•This project has been done in short term thinking.
•The Del Amo mall should be the destination point and the rail
should be built underground to accommodate everyone, and be
less destructive.
Manny Delgado
•The community meeting was very insightful, but would like to see
information on crime reports or analysis on examples of
neighborhoods with rail.
•What other services will Metro provide after the project is done?
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Appendix B: Public and Agency Outreach
Appendix B.3.9. Sign-In Sheets
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Appendix B: Public and Agency Outreach
APPENDIX B.4. PROJECT WEBSITE AND EMAIL COMMENTS
Comment
NumberName
Date of
Comment
Subject
CategorySubject Full Comment
1 Larry Nestor 1/7/2015 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Green
Line Extension
Any new developments or plans for Green Line to LAX since Mar 2014.
2Armaan
Almeida 1/20/2015 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Green
Line Extension
Hello Meghna,
I have a question about moving a fence that's on my property line. I purchased the property in July
of 2013, and have realized that prostitutes, transients and drug users are hanging out on the other
side of the fence when I'm at work and at night. I want to make it perfectly clear: I do NOT want to
build anything on the easement. I simply want to move the fence so that the parties mentioned
above do not come close to my property. Please contact me so we can discuss.
3
Indralal
Wickramarach
chi
5/3/2015 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Green
Line Extension
Is proposed railway line goes between Inglewood Blvd. and existing railway line (the potion of
railway rd from Manhattan beach blvd to Artesia blvd)?
4
Isuru
Wickramarach
chi
5/4/2015 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Green
Line Extension
Hi,
I currently have a house on the corner of Nelson Ave and Inglewood blvd. I looked at the proposed
plan for the green line extension. If this plan is approved, does that mean the green line extension
will got through my house? or does it go through the middle of Inglewood ave? Can you please
clarify?
Thanks,
Isuru
5Sophia Lynn
robles 5/5/2015 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Green
Line Extension
I just wanted to say this extension would be completely amazing. It would help change traffic and
lives. Thank you for working to make this a reality.
6 John Sandeen 5/11/2015 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Green
Line Extension
Since this line is planed to go to the South Bay, why not connect it with the Metro Blue line in Long
Beach? This would give people a REAL alternative to driving on the I-405. In addition it would be
able to serve LAX, Norwalk, as well as, many other cities along the way more directly.
7David
Thatcher 5/28/2015 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Green
Line Extension
If there is still a proposal to extend the green line into Torrance. I say no to this. I don't want the
added noise pollution , the added traffic congestion and the decreased safety caused by increase
rail traffic through out city.
Green Line Extension to Torrance Project - Supplemental Alternatives Analysis
Metro Project Website Comments (Wufoo) and Emails
Comment
NumberName
Date of
Comment
Subject
CategorySubject Full Comment
8 Mike Durich 6/11/2015 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Green
Line Extension
To Whom it May Concern:
I understand that Metro is considering an extension of the Green Line from the Marine Avenue
Station south to Torrance using existing railroad tracks. I live in Lawndale and I do not have a
problem with the Metro going through Lawndale - I have a problem with the route. I realize that
Metro has a right-of-way next to the existing railroad track. The problem is that such a route is not
useful. The train should go down Marine Ave. to Hawthorne Blvd. and go south on Hawthorne
Blvd. Then the businesses and residents could easily access the Metro and find it extremely useful.
(If you go back in time there used to be a rail line running down the middle of Hawthorne Blvd. This
was a useful service. It was removed in the 60's I believe.) There are very few businesses (less than
5) near the existing rail road track. I sent you a similar comment about 2 to 3 years ago. Building
the proposed route is a waste of money and poor transportation planning. If you are going to do
this do it right.
http://www.cougartown.com/history/history-12.gif
The above is a historical photo taken in 1910 showing two rail lines going down Hawthorne Blvd.
Mike V. Durich, Jr.
9Rebecca
Linstrot 7/1/2015 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Green
Line Extension
I have recently moved back to Lawndale after a 20 year absence. I was pleasantly surprised to find
that many of the streets that formerly were dead ends at the railroad now had crossings that
saved residents from making big detours to get to a destination that might only be a few blocks
away.
I also appreciate the light rail project. However, I agree with the Mayor of Lawndale. If the railroad
will be extended through Lawndale, which I believe it should be, it should either be elevated or
below ground the entire way through Lawndale.
I hope you seriously consider keeping the light rail elevated from its current location at Marine.
This seems to be the lowest cost since it is already elevated.
OR
Make the tracks go underground through out the route. This would be most beneficial to the
residents since it would not affect their views. Since you already own the tracks, going
underground would be easy and making a park on top of the backfill would be a great PR benefit to
what must be a nightmare currently.
Thank you for your attention.
10 Jose Torres 7/31/2015 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Green
Line Extension
Please keep me informed with all green line extension info
11Brian
Flannigan 11/5/2015 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Green
Line Extension
I would love it if the County of Los Angeles was more connected than it is now. I would love it if the
green line extended all the way down into the Palos Verdes peninsula! Also, I would love it if the
silver line became a rail line as opposed to a bus line, and whether by bus or rail, I am urging that it
run all the way to San Pedro.
12 Doug Keyser 12/7/2015 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Green
Line Extension
The noise is my concern. My home 4 houses from track. As long as noise reduction walls are put in
place I am fine with it. w. 163rd street Lawndale resident......
13 Dan Alameda 1/11/2016 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Green
Line Extension
This makes absolutely no sense...have you guys ever hopped on the Metro? NOBODY USES IT. It's a
big waste of money.
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14 Timur Tecimer 1/13/2016 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Green
Line Extension
What's the status of this project? Is an EIR being prepared. Is there an e-mail notification list?
Thanks and I support this project.
15 Richard Bent 1/21/2016 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Green
Line Extension
I am encouraged to hear about the Green Line upgrades and possible extension into Torrance.
However, I think its critical that a Green Line extension is made from Norwalk to the
Norwalk/Santa Fe Springs station. The lack of this connection has been stifling and making this
connection would not only improve connectivity to LAX from the eastside, it would make a huge
difference with connection to Orange County. I would encourage Metro to make this a top priority.
Thanks Richard Bent
16 Jill Bonilla 5/12/2016 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Green
Line Extension
Want updates on the extension to Torrance, CA
17 Maysa Alavi 7/15/2016 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Green
Line Extension
What is the status of the green line? Is here still a plan to extend south to south redo do and
beyond? If so when do they predict that to be done?
18 Jim Burton 9/8/2016 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Green
Line Extension
Great idea!!
19Melissa
Morris 9/14/2016 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Green
Line ExtensionWhen The Metro Green Line South Bay Extension Is Going To Start.
20 Emma Lomeli 9/28/2016 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Green
Line Extension
Extending the Green line would be a benefit because we can reduce traffic by having people using
Metro to get from North Redondo to Torrance. There would be less engines on the roads and less
pollution on the air.
21Michael/Mike
Jamgochian 10/2/2016 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Green
Line Extension
Recommend that the Green Line NOT be extended. Lawndale is opposed to it. A much better
solution would convert the the existing railroad tracks into a two way bus lane. Local feeder buses
could collect their passengers from neighborhoods, then employ the bus lane to quickly connect to
the green line terminus in Redondo beach. Metro would not need to supply additional busses. The
new bus lane could be employed by Torrance transit, the BCT, and the law dale BEAT.
22Miguel
Vazquez ######### Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Green
Line Extension
I just want to know ahead of time when you have your meetings I always find out after you have
them. Thank you. Miguel A V
23 Dennis Sulies ######### Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Green
Line Extension
I've recently bought a home in the City of Lawndale. It's located next to the existing tracks. I can't
believe that the Metro and Ciry of Lawndale are going to plan to destroy such a quiet and nice
neighborhood by building a public transportation through a quiet residential area. There is the
Hawthorn Blvd just three blocks away. This is a wide business street with plenty room for a Metro.
Can't believe you consider to build the extension through our unique residential area.
24 D Allsman ######### Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Green
Line Extension
Request: to be added to the South Bay Metro Green Line Extension mailing list.
25 Solomon Mun ######### Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Green
Line Extension
Its been along time since i took a metro bus. How do i get to city of Torrance on the bus from
Downey??????
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26 Osmin Ruano 2/15/2017 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Green
Line Extension
Please send me info in regards to the Metro Green Line Extension...
27Hayden
Milliron 4/6/2017 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Green
Line Extension
Good morning, What is the current status/timeline of the South Bay Metro Green Line Extension
project? I have tried emailing [email protected] several times but have not received a
response.
28 David Sears 4/25/2017 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Green
Line Extension
Is there a proposed completion date?
Where will stations be along the extension?
29Michael/Mike
Jamgochian 5/14/2017 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Green
Line Extension
Please add me to the mailing list for the south bay green line extension.
30 Jose Garcia 6/12/2017 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Light
Rail Extension
We do not want the Metro to extend into our neighborhood. We live off Condon Ave and the noise
would make it unbearable for us to raise a family.
31Jose David
Barajas6/20/2017 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Light
Rail Extension
Please do not use the existing train tracks that cross Inglewood Avenue just north of Manhattan
Beach Blvd. This area is already so congested between unsynchronized traffic lights and the 405
Freeway exit/entrance traffic combined. Having to wait every 5-10 minutes for a Metro Train to
pass is going to be a nightmare!!! If you need to go through this area, please consider above (or
below) ground here and around all main streets. I'm speaking from experience because I work near
another light rail train crossing at Barrington Ave and Exposition (just south of Olympic Blvd.) in
West Los Angeles, and that is the most jacked-up traffic in LA because of the frequency that your
train crosses through there. Please send someone out there to evaluate that before you do
anything near my home too!!! :(
32Theresa
Barajas6/20/2017 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Light
Rail Extension
I can't stress enough how disappointed I am to hear this news. I live a block away from the existing
train tracks in Lawndale so this would greatly impact my life in such a negative way. 1 - Traffic
would absolutely be horrific and add extra time to an already traffic congested area and commute.
From my experience working near a the expo line tracks in West Los Angeles, the trains are given
priority when crossing streets. Every day I experience traffic jams and grid lock at the intersection
of Barrington and Exposition that backs up traffic several streets away. At times, only one or two
cars are able to cross the intersections during a whole traffic light. Ever since those lines were
added to the area I work in, 30 minutes have been added to my commute each way. I'm sure you
understand my concern and frustration when I heard the possibility about adding a Metro Light
Rail at the end of my block. 2 - My home is where I relax, unwind an d dwell to stay away from
traffic and noise, this would impact my everyday home life as well, not forgetting the impact this
will have on my home value as well. 3 - My children play, ride bikes and skate board around my
block and in the area. Currently, the train hardly passes by and that definitely would not be the
case with the proposed Light Rail resulting in a safety concern as well. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO
NOT GO FORWARD WITH CONTINUING THIS RAIL THROUGH OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
Thank you,
Theresa Barajas
33Heather
Meyers 6/24/2017 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Light
Rail Extension
Add to mailing list
34Melissa
Morris 7/2/2017 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Light
Rail Extension
When You Going To Do The Metro Green Line South Bay Extension.
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35 Chris Jordan 7/2/2017 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Light
Rail Extension
For the love of god please build this extension so i don't go mad on the 405 and kill my self after
taking 2 hours to drive 10 miles day after fucking day.
36 Denecia Jones 7/20/2017 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Light
Rail Extension
Hello,
What do South bay residence need to do to get an extension from Redondo Beach to Downtown
LA and West LA/Santa Monica?
I look forward to hearing from you.
With Gratitude,
Denecia Jones
37 John Schreiber 7/29/2017 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Light
Rail Extension
Am concerned about the extension running through residential areas in Lawndale and am curious
which alternatives are currently being considered ( such as running it up Hawthorne Blvd
38 Jonathan Silva 8/2/2017 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Light
Rail Extension
VERY INTERESTED IN THIS PROJECT, LIKE TO GET INVOLVED AS WELL. SOUTHBAY NEEDS MORE
LIGHT RAIL TO HOME DEPOT CENTER ESPECIALLY FOR OLYMPICS AND LA CHARGER GAMES.
39Eileen
Schoetzow 8/4/2017 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Light
Rail Extension
Do you have information about where the transit station will be near the South Bay Galleria?
Thanks!
40 Nina Dooley 8/10/2017 Wufoo
South Bay Metro
Light Rail
Extension
Please add me to your mailing list for the Green Line Extension to the South Bay. Thank you!
41Michael/Mike
Garlan 8/13/2017 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Light
Rail Extension
The Green Line extension should run along the 405 freeway or Hawthorne Blvd. That would allow it
to stop near places people actually want to go. Right now the proposed route would run through
residential neighborhoods in Lawndale and Redondo Beach. That means empty trains destroying
the neighborhoods through which they pass.
42Glen
Brackenridge8/20/2017 Email
Subject: For
Meghna Khanna
Ms. Khanna,
I am writing to ask about the proposed Green Line Extension. As a future resident of Lawndale
whose property (if I buy it next month!) would be directly adjacent to the Harbor Subdivision which
is currently being planned to be utilized for the extension, I obviously have some concerns about
the upcoming possible construction. In particular I'd love some insight into these 3 questions:
Groundbreaking Date
With the approval of Measure M, I saw that the groundbreaking date was moved up 5 years from
2031 to 2026. Is this accurate? The City of Lawndale website states that the proposed completion
of the project is in 2023! Is there information more accurate? Or less? Is there a possibility that this
date could be moved up? Please let me know, thanks!
Undergrounding the Green Line
Councilmember Osborne of the Lawndale City Council remarked in several Meeting Minutes that
Mayor Garcetti proposed undergrounding the Green Line to mitigate issues with the Lawndale
residents. We would LOVE to see this option explored. Is there any realistic possibility for this? Is
there something that the residents could do to encourage this?
Alternative: South Bay Transit Rail Corridor Project
Is this option still being explored? If this option is chosen, would the Green Line Extension not be
utilized? Or would both be built?
I understand that Metro wants projects to go forward for their own agenda. But I also want to
make sure I'm not investing my life savings in a house whose real estate values will plummet in the
43 Liza Hall 8/24/2017 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Light
Rail Extension
I would like to be added to the mailing list.
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44Michael/Mike
Garlan 9/2/2017 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Light
Rail Extension
The proposed Green Line extension would run very close to my home in North Redondo Beach. I
am very concerned about the noise generated by the light rail cars that will frequently pass
through our neighborhood. How is Metro planning to mitigate the noise generated by the train?
If nothing is done it would destroy our neighborhood. It would make much more sense to run the
line down the center of Hawthorns Blvd as ridership would increase and less homes would be
affected. Thank you.
45Michael/Mike
Garlan 9/4/2017 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Light
Rail Extension
There seems to be no regard for the noise generated by the proposed Green Line extension as the
trains pass by my neighborhood in North Redondo Beach. There is no information on how much
noise the trains will generate, or what measures will Metro take to reduce or eliminate the noise
produced. The trains which will run every 20 minutes or so from the wee hours of the morning to
very late at night will adversely effect the quality of life in my neighborhood. Why are the tracks
not being installed underground? Nowhere else on the Green Line do at grade tracks pass so close
to homes. There is a house in my neighborhood that is less than 50 feet from the proposed at
grade crossing of 182nd St. has any consideration been given to the adverse effects of this crossing
on the family that lives there? Please,address these issues. Thank you!
46 Jackson Hurst 9/21/2017 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Light
Rail Extension
hi i would like to sign up for project updates and construction updates regarding the South Bay
Metro Light Rail Extension project.
47Michael/Mike
Garlan 10/7/2017 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Light
Rail Extension
Why are you running the Green Line Extension on an at Grade Track through neighborhoods in
Lawndale and North Redondo Beach? The tracks will be only a few feet from homes in this area.
This will destroy these neighborhoods. Please include noise abatement as part of the planning. The
line should run below grade. I have given feedback on this several times but have never gotten a
reply.
48Jose Dennis
Alabaso 10/9/2017 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Light
Rail Extension
I would like to know when exactly is the South Bay Metro Light Rail (Green Line) Extension Meeting
and/or Public Hearing is going to take place, and where is it going to be located?
49 Jackson Hurst ######### Email
Subject: Project
updates and
construction
updates
regarding the
South Bay metro
light rail
extension project
Hi I would like to sign up for project updates and construction updates regarding the South Bay
metro light rail extension project
Sent from [email protected]
50 Bruce Szeles ######### Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Light
Rail Extension
https://urbanize.la/post/new-options-revealed-south-bay-metro-rail-extension
There seems to be some information out there (link provided) that is very outdated being
advertised as current information. Even your web site is not updated so am I to assume that the
information in this web page I provided is not up to date? Thank you!
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51Alan
Rosemberg ######### Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Light
Rail Extension
This comment is in regards to the proposed route of the extended Green line into the South Bay. I
and several of my neighbors strongly feel that the route going down Hawthorne and continuing on
the ROW on 190th is the better option. This is opposed to the route where it goes along the ROW
from Artesia to 190th. This prevents the extension it from going through residential (literally
peoples backyards), parks, and near schools. It does put the rail line in an area where it passes
through more dense residential and commercial along Hawhtorne Blvd. Safer, and potentially
more riders going along Hawthorne instead of cutting through a residential neighborhood.
52 Deeva Singh ######### Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Light
Rail Extension
I am a big proponent of this expansion and would love to learn more.
53Gary
McDonald ######### Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Light
Rail Extension
Understood there was going to be three proposals submitted this month to City Lawndale for a
consideration. Was informed this morning that there was a meeting yesterday in El Segundo and
proposed route is going along Hawthorne Boulevard to 190th Street via Manhattan Beach
Boulevard and the 405 right away. Is it possible to get clarification as to what is being proposed
54Michael/Mike
Garlan ######### Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Light
Rail Extension
Please do not run the extension along the current tracks through the neighborhoods in Lawndale
and North Redondo. The constant noise and vibration will adversely affect the health and
wellbeing of the residents. It would better serve everyone if the line were run down Hawthorn
Blvd.
55Glen
Brackenridge######### Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Light
Rail Extension
As a resident of Lawndale I demand Metro say NO ON ROW and YES ON H!
Alternative H will bring much needed foot traffic and increased sales to the businesses along
Hawthorne Boulevard, and run down a wide center median that was designed for and previously
contained a railway track. Alternative H is a forward thinking pro-business solution that would help
Hawthorne boulevard become a thriving commercial zone.
If Metro instead chooses to extend the Green Line through the Harbor Row Subdivision with
Alternative R, there will be constant commuter trains running through the backyards of thousands
of residents- spreading noise and air pollution, damaging foundations through vibration, and
plummeting home values. The entire community would feel the negative impact of snarled traffic
at every crossing, and it would mean the destruction of the Harbor Row green belt. There are also
huge safety concerns, as trains would be running past schools and parks where children play, and
along a major gas line that has a history of destructive accidents.
For all of these reasons I ask that Metro choose Alternative H as the only pro-resident, pro-safety,
and pro-business choice. Metro may have the right-of-way but WE HAVE THE RIGHT OF SAY! And
we say that Alternative H is the only acceptable option.
I am starting an online petition, a website, and a citizen movement to work with residents,
businesses, and Council Members to push this agenda. I hope you will respect our wishes.
Thank You!
Glen Brackenridge
56Glen
Brackenridge######### Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Metro Light
Rail Extension
No on ROW, Yes on H!
I am sharing the website my organization created- www.rightofsay.com - in hopes you will take a
look and see why the only pro-business, pro-safety, pro-resident choice is to choose Alternative H.
We are just starting to gather signatures on our petition and will be going door-to-door soon to
gather even more support. Please do the right thing for the residents of Lawndale and Redondo
Beach. I'd love to be a champion of Metro and spread the word about how you guys are working
WITH the community and not AGAINST us. Thank you!
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57Michael/Mike
Garlan 11/5/2017 Email
Subject: Metro
Green Line
Extension
Please do not route the Green Line Extension along the existing ROW in Redondo Beach. The
tracks are located too close to existing homes. The noise generated by the frequent passing trains
will destroy our quiet and peaceful neighborhood. The at grade crossing at 182nd Street would
have cars backing up right in front of homes resulting in unhealthy conditions due to noise and
fumes from idling cars and trucks. The noise from the required bells and other safety devices
would be unhealthful for the families in the area. It would make much more sense to run the train
down Hawthorne Blvd. It would be very helpful to have several community meetings in North
Redondo so the residents that would be affected by this project could voice their concerns.
Thank you!
Mike Garlan
Sent from my iPad
58Valerie
Fernandes 11/8/2017 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Light Rail
Transit Extension
Nothing but Alternative H makes sense for the rail extension. To do otherwise is to upend
thousands of people's lives and decrease their home values to potentially save some city money--
that's reckless and inhumane.
59 Peter Gregoris 11/9/2017 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Light Rail
Transit Extension
This would be a huge and sorely needed public benefit. May I ask when this might be put into
operation? Thanks so much!
60 Jiri Samuel ######### Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Light Rail
Transit Extension
If Metro will use the rail tracks and the trains will use horn on every cross road, that we had it here
years ago. It is totally annoying and disturbing at night. Do they have way how to eliminate the
horns on road cross ? Anyway, this project is bad idea for residential area.
61Marvin
Badawi ######### Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Light Rail
Transit Extension
We own a property along the tracks in Lawndale and oppose any build-out of additional train
traffic on the tracks. The current freight train is a major negative as it is. If anything, Metro should
work on eliminating all trains from using these tracks or relocating them along Hawthorne Bl. or
underground. The amount of vibrations, noise, and disturbances already affects my family and any
further would make it unbearable. Without any consideration to the negative impact these tracks
already have, property owners will suffer the most gaining absolutely nothing from this project.
Please consider these issues. Although they may be minor in Metro's perspective, they have a
major impact to those that live along the tracks today.
62 Colleen Kelly ######### Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Light Rail
Transit Extension
As a resident of Lawndale I must say that we as citizens demand that the Green Line Rail Extension
be put down Hawthorne (Alternative H), and not through the backyards of our community
(Alternative R). I have spoken with countless home owners and citizens of Lawndale and they are
livid at the idea that a train would cut through our community. It is unsafe. Alternative R would
destroy our community - it would cause so many problems while putting the train down
Hawthorne would boom sales for the business owners and it wouldn't destroy this wonderful
community. We demand that the train be put down Hawthorne and NOT through our backyards.
63Michael/Mike
Jamgochian ######### Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Light Rail
Transit Extension
Please add me to the South Bay Extension mailing list.
As a 37 year resident of the South Bay and a homeowner in North Redondo Beach, I am against the
right of way option following the existing trackage through Lawndale and Redondo Beach. The
most preferable approach is to route the extension down Hawthorne Blvd.
Thank-you,
Mike Jamgochian
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64 Jackson Hurst ######### Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Light Rail
Transit Extension
Hi I would like to sign up for project updates and construction updates regarding the South Bay
Light Rail Transit Extension Project
65 Jon Dearing ######### Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Light Rail
Transit Extension
I am a resident of Hawthorne. I would like to register a comment in support of the Hawthorne Blvd
alternative for the Green Line extension. In addition to being a very wide street which would
accommodate at-grade rail, there is a major opportunity for the rail to activate greater
economic/housing development along Hawthorne Blvd and near the proposed stations. What a
great opportunity!
66 Aaron Wright 12/1/2017 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Light Rail
Transit Extension
Regarding the proposed Green Line extension, the ROW option would be economically detrimental
to all residents as well as the businesses along Hawthorne that would miss out from the added
accessibility. Please approve Alternative H instead.
67 Mina Azer 12/8/2017 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Light Rail
Transit Extension
Regarding the GREEN LINE METRO Project
Our community is against having the passenger line passing by our homes and we can't tolerate
this kind of violating our rights and affecting our lives.
No No To METRO GREEN LINE disturbing our lives.
No to having this line across from our homes jeopardizing our families' privacy.
68Mariam
Francis 12/8/2017 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Light Rail
Transit Extension
Regarding the Green Line Project
It is very difficult for us to have the metro line passing just by our houses several times daily taking
away our privacy, freedom and peace.
Need you to consider the Hawthorne Blvd. alternative.
69Suzanne
Haring ######### Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Light Rail
Transit Extension
Hi!
As a NYC ex-pat, I firmly support public transportation - I want those alternatives and want to cut
down on the car traffic and carbon emissions.
That being said, I live between Inglewood Ave. and the Harbor Subdivision ROW tracks. I definitely
want the train to go down Hawthorne Blvd instead of almost in my backyard (and through the
backyard of so many others). The crossing at 182nd is half a block away - I anticipate the bells will
be ringing and the gates will be swinging too early in the am, too late in the PM and frequently
throughout the day.
Please No on ROW and Yes on H
70Malcolm
Clydsdale ######### Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Light Rail
Transit Extension
Running the green line through the backyards of thousands of residential homes is a disgrace.
“Alternative H” in South Bay is the only practical solution, routing away from our commercial areas
along Hawthorne will destroy businesses. The whole point of these metro lines is to take people to
places they want to go, which isn’t along people’s backyards.
71Scott
Robertson ######### Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Light Rail
Transit Extension
just want to be on email list
72Dave
Auerswald ######### Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Light Rail
Transit Extension
The best route is to go down Hawthorne Blvd where the businesses are. Minimize the impact on
residential neighborhoods.
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73Ashley
Gonzalez ######### Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Light Rail
Transit Extension
I live right next to the tracks, there’s damage to my home from the vibration. The lack of privacy
along with property devaluation are two solid reasons to not use ROW. The safety issues will be
hazardous, I have stopped children from crossing the tracks, people drive around the dropping
arms.
We have people driving along the tracks, these are sad examples of the dangers using the row.
Hawthorne Blvd needs the business, employees need to ride on Hawthorne Blvd to jobs, shopping
and business transactions. Our crime rates are high enough, please use Hawthorne Blvd. Save our
neighborhood.
74 Patsy Borunda ######### Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Light Rail
Transit Extension
I oppose the Metro on South Bay Green Line extension on Row R here in Lawndale running our Oil
refineries train tracks.. The Metro will destroy our property values , our safety our air quality our
home structures and foundations. There is no need to have strangers, homeless & rowdy teens
board the Green Line in our backyards. The resale of our homes will plummet & I for one does not
want to know the sale value drops down.
75Patrick
Morgan ######### Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Light Rail
Transit Extension
Extending the Green Line down Hawthorne Boulevard as opposed to through the residences of
Lawndale and RB should be a no brainer! Shame on Metro for failing to inform us of something
that could have such an impact on our communities. I only found out about this because of a flyer
on my door. Neighbors and I are very upset this is being considered. The south bay needs added
transportation infrastructure but not through our vibrant residential communities. Hawthorne
Boulevard is a much better alternative and the median is built for this.
76Patrick
Morgan ######### Email
Subject: LA
Metro Green Line
Extension -
Choose
Alternative H!
Dear Ms. Khanna,
It recently came to my attention that LA Metro is evaluating an extension of the Green Line deeper
into the Southbay. I understand that there are two alternatives under consideration: 1) a route
along Hawthorne Blvd (Alterntive H), and 2) a route along the existing railway that cuts through
residential areas of Lawndale and Redondo Beach (Alternative R).
While I am excited about the possibility of added transportation infrastructure in the Southbay, I
am deeply considered about the ramifications of constructing a route through residential corridors
(Alternative R). As a Lawndale resident and former Redondo Beach resident, I truly feel that we
live in one of the best parts of Los Angeles. Our communities offer quiet neighborhoods, tight-knit
neighbors, and consistently rising property values. Constructing a railway through our
neighborhoods will have many negative impacts:
• Constant noise pollution and traffic pollution due to increased rail traffic
• Nuisance ground vibrations that could impact structural foundations
• Overall decrease in property values
• Safety concerns of trains running past schools and parks where children play
• Safety concerns of train running along a gas line with a history of destructive accidents
Of course, these concerns do not change the fact that the Southbay does need another
transportation corridor. By extending the Green Line along Hawthorne Boulevard, LA Metro will
leave a vibrant community intact, drive increased foot traffic and sales to the businesses along
Hawthorne Boulevard, and ultimately increase Metro ridership by serving more densely populated
77 Lesley Elwood ######### Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Light Rail
Transit Extension
I support the use of the existing ROW for the extension. Please work with my neighbors in Franklin
Park area to mitigate their concerns over noise, traffic and vibration. I will do hat I can to support
the project. I appreciate your coming out last Saturday to make the presentation to the
community.
78 Jessica Smith ######### Wufoo
South Bay Light
Rail Transit
Extension
Build the South Bay Green Line Extension on Hawthorne Boulevard and not through the 40 blocks
of residential neighborhoods along the Harbor Subdivision ROW! I do not want to live so close to a
metro commuter train, which will cause too much noise pollution, be an eyesore, and ruin the
foundations of all my neighbors' houses. It makes much more sense to build the route along
Hawthorne Boulevard.
79 Hilda Zaragoza ######### Wufoo
South Bay Light
Rail Transit
Extension
Hi,
What a great idea!!!!
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80Michael/Mike
Garlan ######### Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Light Rail
Transit Extension
Please do not extend the green line along the existing rail right of way through the cities of
Lawndale and Redondo Beach. The noise of the frequent passing trains would destroy the quiet
residential neighborhoods located along the ROW. I am also concerned about the noise and traffic
disruptions at the planned at grade crossing on 182nd street. The city of Redondo Beach is already
looking at rezoning the area around the proposed stop at the South Bay Galleria from R-1 to R-6
allowing high density Transit Oriented Development. This would add to the already nightmarish
traffic we here in North Redondo live with on a daily basis. Please consider the effect that building
the Green Line Extension will have on the nearby community. Thank you!
81 Jackson Hurst ######### Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Light Rail
Transit Extension
Hi I would like to be added to the mailing list for the South Bay Light Rail Transit Extension Project
82 Berlyn Bryant 1/3/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Light Rail
Transit Extension
WHEN I BOUGHT MY HOME IN 1996, (CONDON &165TH ST) I WAS TOLD THAT THE TRAINS WERE
BEING REROUTED WITHIN 2 YEARS. IT IS NOW 20 YEARS LATER AND THE TRAINS ARE STILL
COMING. I DO NOT APPROVE OF THE GREEN LINE BEING EXTENDED THRU MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
OR FOR THAT MATTER ANY STOPS. THIS TRAIN WILL BE COMING EVERY 20 MINS - ON THE SAME
TRACK AS THE ALREADY NOISY TRAINS -TOO MUCH! - THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD OF OLDER-
RETIRED HOUSEHOLDS AND WE DON'T WANT THIS CONSTANT INVASION BROUGHT ON US. WE
NOW HAVE LEGALIZED WEED (WHICH WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER) NOW THE TRAIN. IT'S
TIME FOR LAWNDALE TO STAND UP FOR WHAT IS RIGHT FOR THERE OLDER CITIZENS AND NOT
BECAUSE EVERYONE ELSE IS DOING IT. HOW MUCH REVENUE WILL BE GENERATED BY EXTENDING
THIS LINE FOR THE CITY? PROBABLY NOT MUCH - AND THE INCONVENIENCE THAT IT WILL BRING
ON THIS SHORT STRETCH OUTWEIGHS THE BENEFIT TO THE CITY. ELEVATE THE TRACK - GO ABOVE
US - THAT COULD ELIMINATE SOME OF THE NOISE - YOUR MORE AFFLUENT NEIGHBORHOOD IN
THE SOUTH BAY ARE SURE NOT GOING TO SIT BACK AND LET THIS HAPPEN TO THEIR
NEIGHBORHOODS - MY PROPERTY VALUE IS STILL DOWN SO I REALLY WON'T BE ABLE TO SELL IF
THIS HAPPENS (NOT THAT I'M LOOKING TO SELL) PLEASE DON'T VOTE TO APPROVE THE GREEN-
LINE GOING THRU OUR CITY AND ESPECIALLY NOT MY NEIGHBORHOOD. A VERY CONCERNED
RESIDENT OF LAWNDALE, CA
83 Ace Trump 1/3/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Light Rail
Transit Extension
Dear Sir/Madame—
I want to add my voice to those that are opposing the South Bay Green Line extension (Alternative
R). PLEASE do not ruin our tranquil neighborhood with this expansion. Thank you for your time.
Ace Trump
84 James Medina 1/8/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Light Rail
Transit Extension
Rail crossings: all rail/road crossings must at separate grades. Trains that have to wait for car traffic
or vice-versa completely defeat the purpose of rapid transit. No one wants to take a train whose
transit time takes longer than driving, since you will likely still have to walk to and from a station.
Why not drive and save time?
85 Rani Chamie 1/14/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Light Rail
Transit Extension
Good Morning,
I am Rani Chamie, the Business Development Director for the Surface Transportation & Critical
Infrastructure department in Rockwell Collins. My department specializes in Rail and Security
Solutions including Communication, Signaling, Train Control, SCADA, PTC, Cyber & Physical
Security, and a full range of other related solutions.
We would like to engage with you concerning the Green line Extension Project and we highly
appreciate if you give us the chance to present and offer our various solutions.
Looking forward for your reply.
Thank you.
Comment
NumberName
Date of
Comment
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86 Tony McGatlin 1/15/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Light Rail
Transit Extension
The green line extension should not go through neighborhoods in the south bay. It should run
down Hawthorne blvd. there are businesses there and bus lines to connect too. Going down a
residential corridor may be cheaper but is short sighted and will ruin some good neighborhoods.
87Christopher
Morris 1/22/2018 Wufoo
Subject:
Feedback - South
Bay Light Rail
Transit Extension
Keep me informed about anything involving the city of Lawndale
88 Nilay Patel 1/25/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Light Rail
Transit Extension
Finally.
89 Ted Hofman 1/29/2018 Email
Email to Mark
Dierking
Presentation At
Cog Meeting
Good morning Mr. Dierking,
My name is Ted Hofmann, and I was attending the presentation at the COG meeting on Thursday
evening.
Thank you for handing me and my mother, Doris Hofmann, a business card following the
presentation.
My father, Harold Hofmann, was mayor of Lawndale for 23 years prior to his passing 4 years ago.
We thought the route for the metro rail had been decided prior to his passing.
Mom lives at 4443 W. 161st St., Lawndale, the house against the freeway right of way. We also
own 4450 W. 160th St., where my sister lives, which is the house against the freeway on that block.
The property my mom lives on was actually purchased by the family in 1927. We had a few
properties and houses. We did lose 2 properties to the 405 back in about 1963 when the 405 was
built. We also lost another house and property to Caltrans in 1970 during planning for the 105 and
widening of Hawthorne Blvd. offramp planning. We were eventually able to buy that property back
in the 90's when it was declared surplus property.
We do hope the Metro Rail uses the railroad Right of Way option, as we have 3 residences right
against the freeway, and the rail would obviously impact us.
Thank you for your time.
And thanks again for your business card.
90Anthony
Cortes 2/13/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - South
Bay Light Rail
Transit Extension
Metro green line through Lawndale presents a golden opportunity to Lawndale to not only a great
destination but allow its many residents to utilize public transportation instead of cars, easing the
already congested streets of our neighborhood. If Lawndale is truly “the heart of the Southbay” it
will approve the Metro green line extension.
91Christopher
Smith 3/15/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
I would love to see this completed before the Olympics. I think the western route along the
existing tracks makes the most sense.
92 Jackson Hurst 3/22/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
hi i would like to be added to the mailing list for the Green Line Extension to Torrance Project.
Comment
NumberName
Date of
Comment
Subject
CategorySubject Full Comment
93Johan
Torroledo 3/27/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
To whom it may concern,
First of all, I would like to start by congratulating the Leangles County Metropolitan Transportation
Authority(METRO) for continuing to improve LA’s public transportation system to make LA a
greener and more dynamic city. The purpose of my email is to provide input regarding possible
improvements to the existing rail system.
Los Angeles County transportation stakeholders (residents, board members, and politicians) have
been advocating for better transportation and connectivity throughout LA. Now, at a time when
interest for an improved public transportation system is at an all-time high, and buses continue
provide only a partial solution due to increased surface street traffic, local communities look to the
future to provide a better environment for current and future generations via underground or
above ground rail systems.
As a local stakeholder I have been following the news about improvements to our local
transportation system with much excitement and would like to contribute towards the synergy and
connectivity of our system by providing an idea which may or may not already a part of
proposed/future program.
In my opinion, LA residents would greatly benefit by extending the metro system into new parts of
the South Bay area by developing a rail that connects the South Bay area to the Green Line and
Crenshaw line system. The following are some of the reasons:
1. Feasibility: Hawthorne Blvd provides ample space along the median of the street where an
above ground or underground rail could be constructed. The median of the street is currently used
for parking and/or landscape with a width of up to ± 50 feet. A wide median provides space to set
up work areas for construction and/or to construct the necessary structural components for an
above-ground rail.
2. Connectivity: A new line along Hawthorne Blvd provides connectivity to the South Bay’s
94Kenneth
Hekimian 4/4/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
What is the timeline and on what events is it dependent?
95Jose Dennis
Alabaso 4/6/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
Do you all think it's to get started on the construction of the South Bay Green Line Extension to the
newly proposed Torrance/Crenshaw Transit Center even sooner? Besides, I like the Alternative #3
that has the newly proposed extension of the South Bay Galleria Transit Center (instead of the
Redondo Beach Transit Center) if it goes on Hawthorne Blvd. with at least 2 light rail tracks
available to help make perfect connections with those MTA Bus Lines and other Municipal Bus
Lines (including: Torrance Transit). Okay? Please do so and thank you for your cooperation.
96Walter
Arellano4/6/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
Alternative 3 would create even more traffic on the already traffic-prone Hawthorne. I support
Alternative 1 for the Green Line Extension.
97Michael
Carpenter4/9/2018 Email
Email to
GreenlineExtensi
Subject:
greenline
extension
I am writing on behalf of my mother in law, Luz Fanning, current property owner of 4316 W. 167th
Street Lawndale . She has owned this property for over 60 years. The landscaping makeover that
took place on Hawthorne Boulevard several years ago, was both of financial benefit to her as a
homeowner and also a very emotional experience. Finally, her city looked like a city to be proud
of. When she calls her daughter in Lawndale, her first words are still "how are my trees?". She was
upset, devastated to learn they may be taken out. **As a property owner and Stakeholder in the
Metro Extension Project she requested I communicate with you that she does not want the Metro
Greenline to run down the middle of Hawthorne Blvd. Please use the existing railroad tracks
98 Allison Towle 4/9/2018 Email
Email to Mark
Dierking Subject:
Upcoming Green
Line Meetings
Hi Mark,
A constituent recently told me that there were going to be some Metro meeting happening in the
South Bay. Would you mind forwarding me that information?
Much appreciated,
Allison
99Kathleen
Richter 4/11/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
Curious if there’s been any updates
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100 Jose Gutierrez 4/12/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
Hello,
I'm a Lawndale resident that lives a block from the ROW that runs from Manhattan Bch Blvd to
170th St., and I am concerned about the level of community engagement that has not been done
in Lawndale in preparation for this meeting. Myself and a few of my neighbors have not received a
flyer about this meeting, or had anyone come and knock on our doors to give us notice. If Door to
door was done, it is still the lowest hanging fruit of outreach. Did you hire an outreach consultant
for this project? Is this coming Tuesday's presentation going to also be provided in Spanish? Why is
the meeting location in Leuzinger when most of the impacted residents live on the other side of
Lawndale?
101 Tammy New 4/16/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
Update me on its progress
102 Seema Turner 4/17/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
This will serve a need in this area. an avid rider of public trans and resident of the South Bay, I am
happy to provide input on the various designs.
103 Craig St John 4/19/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
Seeing how my business is sitting on ground zero for this extension. I would at least expect some
kind of notification as to when and where the meeting are to be held. I just found out from a
concerned citizen as to the meetings.
104 Troy McGatlin 4/20/2018 Email Subject: Alt 3
Hi metro line and metro board,
I just wanted to voice my opinion that the only true option for the green line ext. is for alternative
#3 (the line down Hawthorne). I went to your meeting last night and the over riding theme from
you guys was you wanted to be cheap. You had absolutely no studies on safety or economical
impact on the neighborhoods. I bet if you did run it for each option you would see that alt 3
would be the safest and have the most positively finical impact on the area.
Anyway, any other option would probably force the city to pursue legal action which could cost
you millions and disrupt your time line.
In conclusion, Alt 3 is best for us and you.
Thanks
Troy
105 Dan Benton 4/20/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
All aspects of this plan point to the ROW route as the clear winner. Initial cost, maintenance costs,
environmental impact, property value impact, less travel time, etc., are all better. Please eliminate
the Hawthorne route as an option, it will only create more problems on an already saturated
street.
106 Linda Morgan 4/20/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
I am absolutely OPPOSED to the Harbor ROW plan. Plan H makes so much more sense. I jog in that
area, I walk to a school where I tutor students and my husband and I walk to the movies and dinner
by crossing the ROW. By using the Harbor ROW you will be literally going right behind people’s
home.
Your website says that you will listen to stakeholders but at the Lawndale meeting we were not
allowed to speak. Is it because we in Lawndale are not the wealthy and influential stakeholders of
surrounding neighborhoods? Don’t solve one problem by creating an even bigger one.
PLEASE CONSIDER OUR QUALITY OF LIFE!!!
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107 Kyle McGatlin 4/23/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
I am supremely unhappy about the current green line expansion route. The line should continue
down Hawthorne, bringing commuters to the business district in the South Bay.
108 Anne Sullivan 4/23/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
I know you guys don't give a rat's rump about me. You don't care about the dream I had, the house
I bought, the garden I built piece by piece out of the dust....that I adopted an older parrot, and how
she sits at looks out at the quiet garden I built her. She whistles softly, almost under her breath, as
she gazes out; she is at peace.
So obviously you wouldn't care about destroying my dream either. I don't sit inside with the shades
drawn, watching Netflix with the volume up. I live for my garden and my birds. If you don't think
having a train running every 10 minutes a couple feet from my property won't really affect me that
much, you're beyond hope.
Since I know you don't care about me and never will, I won't ask you to. What I will ask you to do is
to reconsider your baseline plan. I really don't see why you wouldn't put a train down Hawthorne
Blvd, which previously had a train, and is a commercial area with lots of businesses that could use
some more customers.
OH, you have a powerpoint chart that says it will save 2 minutes? That it will be a couple percent
cheaper? Hey, if I miss a stoplight on my way to work, it costs me a couple minutes too. Is that a
good reason to ruin my neighborhood? Do I think to myself, I could do a good thing, the right thing,
for the long term ....or I could ruin a few hundred peoples' little sliver of hope in this life and save
myself a dirty penny in a short term?
I mean, this is really your best idea? God damnit. What a world.
109 Julien Haro 4/23/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
Good Evening, Ive been looking at the plans to expand the metro link. I am excited about it, but I
noticed that in some plans the rail would be so close to my house that it looks as it would be on
top of it. Can you please let me know more about it. My address is 4535 W 159th ST, Lawndale CA
90260
110Tiffany
Maloch4/26/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
I live along the ROW and bought along the ROW knowing that freight trains use it. I have no issue
with them. What I do have issue with is metro trains running down the lines all day long. I bought
my house to raise my family in a beautiful city I love to call home (Redondo beach). If you choose
alternatives 1 or 2 you have effectively denied me this peace. Option 4 destroys my life completely
as I am a home that is circled on your map as extremely affected!!! Please please consider option 3
it makes the most sense for success of the metro. With a station right in front of the galleria it
gives people a destination! You get commuters and shoppers all in one! Why would you drop
people off behind Target and make them have to walk to the mall when instead you can drop them
right in front! In front of the residential component going in and the brand new mall! How is that
not a selling point??? There are way to many homes that will be affected by this decision and they
will fight to keep what they bought into, a peaceful community without a metro running down
their backyards. Sometimes the easiest choice is the wrong one. Please don’t think we will let this
happen without a fight. We all want change. Let’s do it right.
111 Kevin G 4/26/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
Hello,
Thanks for asking for comments.
We need rapid train transportation to Downtown LA from the South Bay.
Getting on the Green Line going north and then transferring trains (believe it is to the blue line) is
indirect and inefficient and takes much longer than driving. I would love be able to take the train
but it has to be rapid and efficient or it isn't worth it.
Thank you.
Comment
NumberName
Date of
Comment
Subject
CategorySubject Full Comment
112Christos
Sbarounis4/26/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
I have been following the plans for the Green line extension project and I am really excited to see
the line get all the way to Torrance. At the same time I am also disappointed with the lack of stops
inside the city of Torrance. You really need to consider adding a stop near the Del Amo and Prairie
intersection. Based your latest plans, there are no stops between the Redondo Beach Transit and
the Torrance Transit stations (a 2.5 mile stretch). Adding an extra stop near Del Amo Blvd would
allow you to serve the large residential area near the Delthrone neighborhood in Torrance, as well
as many businesses along Del Amo Blvd including office buildings, shops, and the Torrance
Refinery.
113 Mark Narain 4/26/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
The best option for residents and business community would be alternative 3. This would be best
option to get people to use transit. Option 1 and 2 are are cheaper options but are wasting an
opportunity to create a viable transit system.
114 James Light 4/27/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
Please keep the greenline extension in Redondo and Torrance away from the housing and Right of
Way due to quality of life impacts for all the families who have resided there for decades.
115Virginia
Gonzalez4/27/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
Looking at your metro map I am unclear where in Torrance you are proposing to extend the green
line.
Transportation (Green Line) in and out of LAX is number one of importance and has been for the
past 20 year+, or whenever it was that the green line ended at Marine Street.
Metro / Green Line from Torrance to downtown or LAX would most definitely help our growing
city. I use the Green Line, however it is still a bit of a pain and struggle to get to it!!!
116 Steve Redlich 4/28/2018 Email
Subject: Green
Line Extension
Comments
Dear Meghna, Here are my comments
• I prefer Alternative 3 from the existing Marine Station until 190th Street. Options 1, 2, and 4 will
create more noise thru a residential corridor and result in less ridership
• Businesses on Hawthorne Blvd and nearby residences will create ridership for the green line,
reducing automobile traffic as well as allowing interchange with East/West bus lines along the
route.
• At Hawthorne Blvd and 190th the green line should continue South on Hawthorne Blvd to reach
useful destinations like the Torrance Promenade and the restaurants, theaters, shopping and
businesses in and around Del Amo Mall. Hawthorne Blvd is the center of the South Bay.
• The original green line routing made mistakes by avoiding large destinations like the tall office
buildings along Sepulveda Blvd. and Imperial Highway, Los Angeles International Airport and the
dense offices and hotels along Century Blvd.
• Please don’t make these same mistakes again today.
• Aligning to meet the proposed Redondo Beach Transit Center is another bad idea. Redondo
Beach already has a little used transit center behind the South Bay Galleria, three blocks from the
proposed location on 182nd street.
• Owning a right of way is a poor reason to choose a route. Caltrans is unlikely to oppose use of a
state highway for public transit.
• No one wants to travel to a transit center. Please pick the best route that will encourage
ridership and help reduce automobile traffic, congestion and pollution.
• And remember, The best alternative is to dispatch buses every five minutes on every route. This
will do more to increase transit ridership than wasting tremendous funds on inflexible single use
fixed infrastructure.
Please keep me informed on this project thru
117Manuel
Araujo4/28/2018 Wufoo
Feedback -
Green Line
Extension to
Torrance
I support Alt. 3 for the green line extension and extend the green line to south Torrance to Lomita
& Hawthorne Blvd. instead of going through an oil refinery which has explosions often.
Comment
NumberName
Date of
Comment
Subject
CategorySubject Full Comment
118Thomas
Dorsey4/30/2018 Email
Subject: Green
Line South Bay
Extension:
Missing 190th-
Hawthorne
Station
Dear Meghna,
I am a West Torrance resident who missed the invitation to Torrance public hearing on April 26th.
If I had attended the hearing, I would have communicated this concern.
As you’ll see from my message attachments, I am a transit advocate who understands LA Metro
Rail capability to mitigate traffic congestion, air pollution and to improve mobility options for
citizens & visitors who can not or choose not to drive. I also have context from good and bad
Metro Rail decisions made in San Francisco Bay Area, Washington, Atlanta and Baltimore.
The alignment for Metro South Bay Extension Alternatives 1 & 2 is smart for being less disruptive
to auto traffic and businesses, while extending Metro access deeper into the South Bay. Just as
Metro Expo Line demonstrated its value without being too disruptive to auto traffic and
businesses, this route extension will become very important to South Bay commuters — hopefully
in time for the 2028 Summer Olympics.
I was excited about the Green Line South Bay Extension when earlier Metro Alternatives included a
station at 190th St-Hawthorne Blvd, southeast quadrant. I am now disturbed to see all
Alternatives exclude that station. This is puzzling because a new
Manhattan Beach-Inglewood Blvd Station, only 0.6 miles from Redondo Beach-Marine Station, is
included. Given such a small station gap and even less parking space, Manhattan Beach-Inglewood
Blvd Station is unlikely to attract as many new commuters as a 190th-Hawthorne Station.
119 Paul Mak 4/30/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
I am resident in City of Torrance for 40 years. It is wonderful to learn that the transit project could
become a reality in the near future. There is only 1 commuter bus that serves Torrance and
downtown LA, in the morning and evening commute hours. The rail extension to Torrance would
clearly provide the mobility that badly needed over the years.
Paul Mak
Please add me to your mailing list.
120Edith
Mendoza4/30/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
Hello, I think the green line extension to Torrance is fantastic! All major cities are set up with an
effective public transportation system and LA is very behind NYC, Chicago, San Francisco. I would
greatly appreciate it if the green line extended all the way through San Pedro the way the old
railroad used to in the 1950s. It should not take me an hour to commute 15 miles to work. Do you
know when we can expect a metro line for San Pedro? Thank you!!
121 Caney Arnold 4/30/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
I made my public comment as both a citizen and candidate for State Assembly at the Torrance
meeting. I strongly believe that another option needs to be studied based on using all-electric
buses rather than rail. By the time the construction would done for these rail lines, electric vehicles
will be the norm, and construction costs can be avoided by using various size buses, with
scheduling based on demand. FPPC# 1398348.
122 Susan Bravo 5/1/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
I live along the BNSF route in North Redondo, almost at the intersection of 182nd and the train
tracks. I'm wondering how disruptive the construction will be and how much noise will we
experience from the train once it's running.
Also, when will the preferred alternative be approved? Is there any chance the train will go out to
Hawthorne and miss my property altogether? :)
Thank you,
Suzie Bravo
Comment
NumberName
Date of
Comment
Subject
CategorySubject Full Comment
123Michael/Mike
Jamgochian 5/4/2018 Email
Subject: Thank
you for the
community
outreach
meetings
Ms. Khanna,
Thanks to you and the Metro team for conducting the recent community outreach meetings
regarding the South Bay Extension. I’m glad I had the opportunity to participate and listen to your
team and my fellow community members. Clearly, there is no easy answer that is going to please
everyone. Unfortunately I was unable to attend the last two meetings. Do you plan to publish the
community input you received?
I’m still a fan of my recommended alternative .... the busway following the railroad tracks. It costs
much less than a railway, can be implemented much faster, will be as quick as a rail line, could be
extended farther into Torrance, and has the least impact to the surrounding neighborhoods in
Lawndale, Redondo Beach, and Torrance. However, I understand that Metro considers many
factors in making it’s ultimate decision. After meeting your team, I believe Metro staff does indeed
want to do what is best for the community.
It was a pleasure meeting you and your team in person. Please don’t hesitate to contact me if you
want additional input....
Best Regards,
Mike Jamgochian
Redondo Beach
124 Cindy Ogle 5/5/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
I have lived in my home backing up to the Harbor sub-division for 50+ years. I am worried what
construction will do to our older homes. I am worried that I will never sleep again with proposed
trains every 10-15 minutes. I am worried that this is another money pit for L A County citizens. We
do not have the infrastructure for the extra traffic this will bring into our neighborhood (if you get
successful ridership) Please put it down Hawthorne Blvd if you need to build it. The businesses
would appreciate the extra business they will get from riders. I will appreciate not having the
station in a residential neighborhood.
125 Justin Massey 5/11/2018 Email
Subject: Support
Alternative 1
(ROW
Overcrossing) for
Redondo Beach
Station to 190th
Street
Dear Ms. Khanna:
Thank you for the presentation on the Supplemental Alternatives Analysis at the Redondo Beach
Performing Arts Center in April 2018. Having seen the presentation and listened to the public input,
I support Alternative 1 (ROW Overcrossing).
I have encouraged the increased use and effectiveness of transit in Hermosa Beach, including by
supporting enhancements to the Beach Cities Transit system that passes through Hermosa Beach,
Redondo Beach, and other neighboring cities. The Metro and its complementary systems, including
Beach Cities Transit, make up a regional system. That system has to move the largest possible
number of people to effectively address the growing congestion that negatively affects our quality
of life as our population grows. The ability of the system to cost-effectively do that depends on its
effectiveness and efficiency. Thus, while I understand the concerns of residents who purchased
property along the active railroad line and Metro right of way (ROW), I agree that Transportation
System Performance and Cost Effectiveness are the primary criteria for aligning the system – here
and elsewhere.
With those factors in mind, Alternative 1, along the Metro ROW, is the best alignment because,
among other things, it best utilizes the transit center under construction at the South Bay Galleria
and minimizes transit time and maximizes usage. As a result, it ensures our regional transit dollars
go as far as possible in building an effective, efficient system that addresses the regional
congestion that has decreased mobility and eroded our quality of life.
Thank you for the presentation and opportunity to comment.
126 Troy McGatlin 5/11/2018 Email Subject: Alternat
Why is this option not being looked at. They guys company is just down the street from redondo.
And this option impedes no ones everyday life.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-offer-free-rides-072900902.html
Troy
Comment
NumberName
Date of
Comment
Subject
CategorySubject Full Comment
127 Holly Osborne 5/11/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
When is the next Lawndale meeting on the Green Line extension? (Today is May 11)
128Tiffany
Maloch5/15/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
Alternative 3 for the proposed metro extension project in Lawndale/Redondo and Torrance is the
best option for a multitude of reasons! It’s easy to see, we just need the metro willing to do the
right thing!!!! Alternative 3 will 1)boost the economy in Lawndale and Redondo Beach! 2)increases
ridership because now there is a destination, and your not dropping me off behind target half a
mile away from where I want to be, front of the galleria! 3) pro community choice! We ride your
train remember? 4) Hawthorne bl was designed for rail long ago! Any successful rail drops people
off where the action is! The action is the galleria, or will be here shortly! Please do the right thing
we all want your train but we want it so that it is successful for both the community and for the
metro!
129 Gil Abdalian 5/15/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
ROW- tracks..... Noise abatement..... It could make sense to use the existing ROW for Metro Rail
travel, however the tracks travel through residential areas between Manhattan Beach Blvd &
190th street. If there are noise attenuation plans - (sound walls, whistle restrictions, below grade
crossings at 182nd st, Inglewood Blvd etc) this could help make this a successful alternative ....
especially if any freight trains are included in noise abatement.
I reside in Redondo Beach on Ripley Ave and own residential property in Torrance on Kingsdale
Ave. Nothing worse than being bothered by the train whistle unnecessarily warning those 1/4 - 1/2
mile away about a snails pace train moving down the tracks. If crossings at grade are necessary,
they can utilize "AT MOST" the current flashing lights-clanging bells-guard arm.... no need for any
abusive far reaching whistle. Hope these comments are helpful... best Wishes Gil
130Manuel
Araujo5/15/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
I support Alternative 3. Additionally, run the line on Hawthorne to Lomita Blvd. Doing so it would
serve the many business, hospitals, courthouse, jobs, and mall on Hawthorne.
131 Joe A 5/17/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
Please don't cut through my neighborhood and destroy it by going down Harbor ROW
Please choose Alternate 3 and revitalize Hawthorne Blvd.
132 Marco Papa 5/19/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
Please add me to the mailing list
133 Mary Miller 5/20/2018 Wufoo
Feedback -
Green Line
Extension to
Torrance
Please, please DO NOT build the metro down Hawthorne Blvd in front of the Galleria. The
intersections at Artesia, Redondo Beach Blvd and Hawthorne is so congested and then to have to
wait for a train would cause more delay and traffic jams. Additonally, putting the green line along
Hawthorne between Artesia and 190th would be bad, as lanes would have to be removed or
homes displaced to widen that street. It si NOT a good option. Please make alternatives #1 or #2
along the santa fe freight line work. They are the best solutions with access to the transit station
and mall and everything else! Thank you!
134Waskow
Vinita5/21/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
Please add me to the mailing list
Comment
NumberName
Date of
Comment
Subject
CategorySubject Full Comment
135Akemi
Pradhan 5/21/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
I live right next to train track of 182nd street. It’s already really loud with just cars crossing the train
track on 182nd st. If you have total three train in every 5-7 mins, it will be so noisy that we cannot
sleep and my young kids cannot have any enjoyment in our backyard. It will be very dangerous
some kids crossing by 182nd st from school. Not only for noise but also vibration from trains keep
going will be definitely issue. It really scares us. It will effect our life and life style. Please move
station to Hawthorne Blvd as well. I see many problems with train brings with transients and many
homeless. There was one transient stubbed one person in bus a few weeks ago. That kind of
problems may happen with train station since we are really close to proposed station in Redondo
Beach. Do not put train station there. Move it to Hawthorne Blvd where all the businesses will
appreciate for more business.
136Alan
Rosemberg 5/21/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
I and nearly a thousand of my neighbors who have a signed a petition are very strongly against
anything but Alternative 3. Hawthorne was where the original red line ran as you are probably
aware. Alternative 3 would run in several residential neighborhoods spanning Lawndale, Redondo
Beach, and Torrance. In many cases it will be literally be in peoples backyards. In the Franklin
Park/El Nido area this runs near or along two schools and two parks. It would be unsafe and noisy.
I have seen the mitigation that have taken place for at grade in other metro lines. They don't work
well. I work near the green line on Aviation and Rosecrans. I can hear the train every couple of
minutes from my office with the doors closed. That's fine for a commercial area. In fact my clients
sometimes take the train to meet with me. Not okay for a residential area. The residents will give
serious push back if Alternative 3 is moved forward and this is already being discussed. It seems
Metro favors Alternative 3 which is upsetting the residents. We are for Metro we are for public
transportation, but we only have 1 chance to do this right for the future of this area. Run it down a
commercial center, not in peoples backyards where it's unsafe, causes air pollution, and will back
up traffic on small one lane streets (like 182nd and Inglewood for example).
137 Suzie Bravo 5/22/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
Pleas text tonights meeting address
138 Pedro Borjas 5/22/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
There should be no training running in Lawndale unless it is completely underground.
139Emanuel
Delgado 5/23/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
The metro extension through the city of Lawndale is a bad idea because it will evict a lot of families
that do not count on the resources to relocate and have lived here for many years. There is a
shortage of housing as it is and this will make it much worse. It'll breakdown our communities and
deteriorate our neighborhood. In addition, there are many risks for kids that attend William Green
Elementary that live on the east side of Hawthorne if you build a train that cuts through their
commute to the west side of Hawthorne. You plan to cut down trees and remove valuable parking
for residents and visitors that is conveniently on Hawthorne Blvd. Not to mention the increase in
noise from the rail train that will echo through our small community.
140Mauricio
Arambula5/24/2018 Email
Subject: I would
love to see a
metro extension
to Torrance
I work at Leuzinger HS and live in Torrance an addition to the Green Line will be phenomenal to our
city and to the Olympic Games in 2028.
Thank you,
Mauricio Arambula
310 913-8697
Comment
NumberName
Date of
Comment
Subject
CategorySubject Full Comment
141 Erik Sharp 5/24/2018 Wufoo
Feedback - Green
Line Extension to
Torrance
I attended the meeting at Addams Elementary School on Tuesday evening. During the brief,
somewhat unintelligible presentation of the history of the project leading to the 4 current options,
and subsequent audience comments, I developed concerns for the process you are using to move
this project forward.
I did not hear a word about traditional planning issues, such as maintaining neighborhood integrity,
supporting existing travel patterns, linking major hubs of employment / commerce /
entertainment, mitigating unwanted sound and visual problems, especially in residential areas, and
maintaining safety. Many of these issues were eventually brought up to one degree or another by
audience members (at times as rants). It was actually stated several times that environmental
issues were next to be considered. It appalls me that environmental issues are taking a back seat
to cost and convenience, that it is considered OK to present vague, inaccurate renderings of
stylized solutions to undefined problems without first addressing the underlying issues.
I did not hear any discussion of coordination with the planning departments of any of the affected
cities through which you propose to run the line. Specifically there seemed to be little concern for
how the South Bay Galleria redevelopment is informed by or informs the green line station
placement. Why on earth would you not place that station within easy walk if not dead center of
the planned transit center? It is a quarter mile walk from Kingsdale Ave to Hawthorne Blvd -
walking thru a sea of parking. Why would you place a large overhead station at 166th St where
there is essentially no hub to link? Who is this for? And no, I don’t say this because I happen to live
on 166th. On such a relatively narrow right-of-way (Hawthorne), surrounded by high speed auto
and bus traffic, you need to plan carefully for pedestrian traffic at all stations. Injecting an alien
structure with plenty of safe access is tricky.
142 Anne Sullivan 5/27/2018 Email
Subject: please
no Green Line
through my
backyard -- NO
on ROW
Dear Mayor Garcia,
I write to ask you not to rubber stamp Metro's plans to extend the Green Line down the Harbor
ROW, which just so happens to run right behind my house. Not only would this ruin my home life
for me and my hardworking neighbors, but I don't believe it is a good use of taxpayer money.
I don't think LA Metro should get any more taxpayer money to expand until they can handle the
lines they already have in terms of maintenance, safety (accidents), security (for riders on the
trains), and actually enforcing that riders pay the fare, which is hardly done currently.
It really boggles my mind that the baseline plan of Metro is to jam the train right through our quiet
residential neighborhood, instead of down Hawthorne Blvd, which is already a busy commercial
street. AND, Hawthorne Blvd used to have a commuter train running down the center so it already
has the space for it.
If ruining the life that myself and my neighbors struggled to build isn't enough to merit a second
thought, then I ask you to consider the following. There is a petroleum pipeline that runs right
along the Harbor ROW -- I know because it's right behind my house. It hard to imagine how the
construction itself or the vibration once completed would not damage it.
A use of a backhoe near a similar line caused a horrific accident and loss of life in San Bernardino in
1989:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Bernardino_train_disaster
143 Conor Sullivan 5/29/2018 EmailSubject: NO on
ROW
I live in Redondo Beach and we do NOT want the Metro anywhere near our quiet community.
The Metro Green Line extension, if done at all, should go down Hawthorne Blvd, a busy
commercial street that previously had a train right down the wide boulevard.
I'm not sure why Metro thinks putting a noisy train through the backyards of a suburban
community is a good idea, but I hope they reserve a LOT of money for lawsuits if they do.
Sincerely,
Conor Sullivan
Comment
NumberName
Date of
Comment
Subject
CategorySubject Full Comment
144 Anne Bender 5/29/2018 EmailSubject: NO on
ROW
The proposed Green Line extension through the backyards of residential neighborhoods is a
terrible idea.
Actually, any kind of light rail extension is a terrible idea, but you've really outdone yourselves this
time.
You guys probably feel persecuted and under-appreciated, right? Well you deserve all the
blowback you receive and more. This is a terrible idea. Who do you think you're helping? I mean,
besides yourselves? And the other petty criminals?
NO on ROW. NO on ROW. NO on ROW. NO on ROW.
If you must waste $1 billion of taxpayer money for the love of all things holy, AT LEAST don't ruin
neighborhoods while you're at it.. Think you can manage that?
Sincerely,
Anne Bender