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DaveAsprey: Intoday's24/7world,youmightfindyourselffeelingalittlelessbulletproofthanyoulikesomedays.Itcertainlyhappenstome.Ihaveareallybusytravelschedule,includingalotoftimeontoxicairplanesfullofbadairandquestionablefood,althoughIfranklyskipthequestionablefood.OneofmytophacksformaintainingthatmentalperformanceandjusttofeelgoodandnotbetooswollenistogetridoftoxinsthroughmySunlightensauna.

IntheBulletproofBiohackingLabsalphahereonVancouverIslandwhereIlive,IhaveaSunlighten3-in-1infraredsauna.Why?Becausetheirpatented3-in-1technologyhasnear,mid,andfarinfrared,whichdodifferentthings,allinoneplace,soIcangetthedetoxeffects,theenergy,andtheweightloss,andtheotherthingstheinfrareddoesforthewaterinyourcells.WhenIdothat,I'mgettingaccesstoabunchofdifferenthealthprograms.There'sonefordetox.There'soneforcardio,oneforantiaging,soyoucanactuallycontrolthetypeofwavesyou'reexposedto.ThenearinfraredLEDsareimportantforcellhealthandantiagingresults.

It'scontrolledwithalittleandroidpanelthatactuallyletsyouwatchNetflixwhileyou'reinthesauna,whichiscool.It'seco-friendly,hypoallergenicbasswoodandpremiumcraftsmanship.Youdon'twantsomeofthetoxicwoodsthatreleasenatural,likeMotherNature'stoxins.Theydon'tusethatkindofwood.Youcanactuallyaccessthesaunafromthecloud,soyoucanturnitonbeforeyouleavetheofficeandit'sreadywhenyougethome,whichissupercool.Itevenincludessomethingcalledacousticresonancetherapy,wherethere'sthingsthatshaketheseatsaccordingtothemusicyou'relisteningtoanditturnsoutthatvibrationisoneofthesignalsmitochondriainyourbodylistento,soit'sacooldeal.

Ifyouwanttocheckoneofthesethingsout,SunlighteninfraredsaunasarethemosteffectiveonesIknowoffordeepcellularsweating.Yougotosunlighten.com,that'sS-U-N-L-I-G-H-T-E-N.comandchecktheinfraredandfullspectrumsaunas.IfyoumentionBulletproofRadio,yougetafreesetofbamboocarbontowelsandtrustme,you'regoingtoneedtowelsifyoustartusinganinfraredsaunaandsolimitedtimeoffer,onlywhilesupplieslast.Justgotosunlighten.comandmentionBulletproofRadio.Youcanalsocall877-292-0020.Sunlighten.com

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DaveAsprey: You'relisteningtoBulletproofRadiowithDaveAsprey.Today'scoolfactofthedayisanotsocoolstatisticaboutcommonprescriptions.Studiesofabout550differentpharmaceuticaldrugsshowthatabout35%ofthemdamageyourmitochondria.Mitochondriaarethebatteriesorthepowerplantsinyourcells.Ifyoudamagethosewithdrugs,it'sareallyseriousconcernandyou'reunlikelytoseewarningsaboutthisonthelabel.

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ThereasonIknowaboutthisisbecauseHeadStrong,mynewbook.Checkthatthingout.Let'sseeifIcanmakeitfitonthecamerathere.HeadStrongisallabouthowyoucanmakethemitochondriainyourheadstronger,howyoucanliterallyhackthem.Icameacrossthisresearchandsomeofthethingsthatpeopletakefordiabetesinparticularscrewupyourmitochondriaovertime.Whenyourmitochondriagetdamaged,yourchancesofcancergoesup,soyougottomanagethoselittleguys.Whowould'vethoughtthatdrugsdidthat?

Speakingofmitochondria,theylikefat.Ifyouhaven'ttriedBulletproofgrass-fedghee,yougottogivethatashot.Thisisonbulletproof.com.YoucanputitinyourBulletproofcoffeeandyoucancookwithit.It'saverystableoilandhavingstableoilsthatdon'toxidizeisimportantforyoutobeabletobuildhormonesandcellmembranesandthingslikethat.Checkitoutonbulletproof.com.AddittoyournextorderofBrainOctaneOilandyou'llbeamazedathowgoodeverythingtastesandhowgoodyoufeel.

Allright.Today'sguestissomeonewhoI'mreallyhonoredtohaveontheshow.HisnameisDr.BillSears.Unlessyouliveunderarock,youmight'veheardofhimbecausehe'sahighlyrespectedpediatricianpracticingmedicineformorethan40years.He'swritten45booksonparenting,nutrition,andwellness.HerunstheDr.SearsWellnessInstitute.He'stalkedprettymuchoneveryTVshowyoucanthinkof.Geez.It'shardtointroducehimbecausehe'sbeeneverywhere.

WhatIlikeaboutDr.Sears'workisthathetalksaboutpositivebehavioralchangesforpeople,butalsoparticularlyforkidsandfamiliesandit'sscience-backed,simplestrategies.He'salsorecoveredfromcoloncancer20yearsago,sohewentfromhavingthisfocusonwhat'shappeningwithfamiliestowhat'sgoingonwiththesystemofhumans.He'sgotanewbookcalledTheInflammationSolutionthatcovershishealthhacks.TheInflammationSolutionissomethingyoushouldreadifyou'vereadTheBulletproofDiet,andifyouhaven't,shameonyou.YoulistentoBulletproofRadioandyouhaven'treadthemostdistilledknowledgeIcouldmakeforyou,sopickupyourcopyoftheBulletproofDietwhileyou'reatit.AlsopickupTheInflammationSolutionbyBillSearsbecausewe'rebothgoingtotellyouthesamething.

Inflammationiswhatmatters.Itmattersmorethanalmostanythingelse.I'llalsotellyoufromwritingHeadStrong,guesswhatcausesinflammation?Mitochondrialdysfunction.Youcan'thaveinflammationwithoutmitochondrialdysfunctionoratleastdamageorstress.That'swhathemanagesin40yearsofmedicalpractice,waymoreexperiencethanIhave,buthisconclusionisvalidandrealandyoutotallyneedtohearfromhim.Bill,welcometotheshow.It'sreallyanhonortohaveyouon.

Dr.BillSears: Thankyou,Dave.It'sanhonortobehere.WhenIreadyourbook,BulletproofDiet,thatistheclosestbooktomyInflammationSolutionbookIhaveeverread,


soweareonthesamechannel.Thankyouverymuch.It'sanhonortobeyourguest.

DaveAsprey: I'mamazedtohearthatandthatbodeswellfortheapproachbecausehonestly,I'vetakenalotofflakforsayingit'sokaytoeatfat.Ifeellikethetidehasturned.I'mabouttogiveatalkthisweekatthelargestnaturalfoodshow.Thisiswhereallthefoodmanufacturersgotofigureoutwhat'scomingnext.I'mgivingakeynoteaddressandthetitleofitisFatisBack.ThisisneatonGoogle.Youcanactuallyseesearchesforhighfatarenowhigherthanlowfat.Theycrossedoverabouttwoyearsagowherepeopleareactuallysearchingforhighfatfoods.Maybeyour40yearsoftirelesstoilonthishasmadeadifference.

Dr.BillSears: Absolutely,Dave,thatfatisback,anditshouldneverhavegoneaway.Theabsoluteworstdietaryadvicewe'veevergotteninthewholeworldislowfatdiets.Now,whatIrealizedyearsagothatwhenso-calledscienceblockscommonsense,suspectshakyscience.Thatwholelowfatstuffwasbasedonshakyscience.Whatreallygotmeintoitismother'smilk.Allright.Let'sbegin.Mother'smilkis50%fat.Dr.MotherNaturedoesn'tmakemistake,soIfirstthoughtasapediatricianwhyismother'smilkhalffat.Hmm,ahighfatmilk.Whatisthenumberoneorganthat'saffectedforbetterorworsebynutrition?Thebrain,andthebrainis60%fat.ThewayIgetmypatientstopayattention,Isays,"We'refatheads.We'reallfatheads.Mom,youaregrowingalittlefathead.Theyneedarightfatdiet,notalowfatdiet,"soI'msohappythatweagreethatfatisbackandIdon'tthinkit'llevergoawayagain.

DaveAsprey: Callingitarightfatdietisreallycool,too,becausethere'sthisproblemwhereoh,highfatdietsareokay.Great,let'sloadyouupwithsomehighlyprocessedsoyandmilkproteinisolateandlet'sthrowinsomecanolaandsomecornandcottonseedoilandyou'reofftotheraces.Thatcanbeevenaketogenic,highfatdiet,butman,you'renotgoingtolikewhathappenstoyouoryourbabiesifyou'reatchildbearingage.

Dr.BillSears: Absolutely.Infact,thefirstfoods...Remembertheolddays,westartedbabiesonricecerealasthefirstfood?

DaveAsprey: Yeah.

Dr.BillSears: Jumpdown.There'snofatinricecereal.We'regrowinglittlefatheads.

DaveAsprey: Plus,theycan'tdigeststarchforthefirstyear.Babiesjustfartitout.It'snotokay.

Dr.BillSears: Yeah,right,theydo,literally.I'veseenthat.Wehaveeightchildren,asyouknow,sowe'vechangedalotofdiapers.Thefirstfoodwestart,westartbabiesat6months,Ihavethefatheadtalkwithmymom.Isaid,"Now,we'llstartonavocadosasafirstfood,"avocadosat6months,andguesswhatat7months?Thenumberonefoodforinflammationandthebrainanditswimsinthesea


andit'spink.Salmon.Ihavealittlesigninmyoffice,salmonat7months.Themomslookatmeasthoughreally?I'veneverheardofthat.Avocadosat6months,salmonat7months.

DaveAsprey: Wow.I'mguessingit'swildcaught,probablysockeyesalmon,notthefarmsalmon?

Dr.BillSears: Absolutely,wildsalmon.Dave,wehavealotincommon.IlearnedsomuchfromDr.MotherNature,mymosttrustedscientist.Now,Ididn'tknowalotaboutfish,butIrealizedtheyhadtobehealthyforyouwhenlikeyoudid,Ihadtoundergoarealhealthchangetosavemylife,soIwenttogofishinginAlaska.I'msittingthere.I'mwatchingthesesalmonandthey'renotthatpinkastheystartout,butwhentheystarttheirfinalmarathonuphillforfourmiles,theygetpinkerandpinkerandpinker.Iaskedmyfavoritefishermanupthere,hisname'sRandyHartnellandheruns-

DaveAsprey: IknowRandy.

Dr.BillSears: HisfishisVitalChoice.

DaveAsprey: VitalChoice,that'sright.

Dr.BillSears: HerunsitandIloveit.Isaid,"Randy,whyaresalmonpink?"Hesaid,"Well,supposeyou'reamarathonrunnerandyou'rerunninguphillforfourmiles.Bythetimeyougotupupthetopofthehill,you'dhavearthritis.Yourmuscleswouldoxidativestress.You'dhaveinflammationeverywhere,soDr.MotherNaturesays,'Hey,salmon,stopbyourlittle[farmacy00:10:33]here,F-A-R-M,farmacyhere,andI'llinfuseintoyouanaturalpinkpigmentcalledastaxanthin."

AstaxanthinisMotherNature'smostpowerful,powerfulantioxidant,antiinflammatory.Otherwise,thesalmon'smuscleswouldfallapart.Isaid,"Wow.Ifit'sgoodforsalmon,coulditbegoodforhumans?"ItookatripovertoHawaiiwhentheyhadtheHawaiianMarathon.Iseewow,thesemarathonrunners,theypopapillofHawaiianastaxanthinbeforetheirraceandsoIlearnedsomuchfromsalmon.IbroughtthatinformationbacktomymedicalpracticeandoneofthetwowordsIalwaystellallthepatientsateveryage,gofish.Gofish.Verysimple.

DaveAsprey: Forbreakfastthismorning,my7and9-year-oldhadgrass-fedbutter,pieceswrappedinwild-caught,cold-smokedsockeyesalmon.

Dr.BillSears: Oh,wow,whatagood...

DaveAsprey: Withavocadoslicesandsalt,lotsofsalt,becausealittlesaltinthemorningisgoodforyou.


Dr.BillSears: ...agoodbrainstart.Dave,actually,I'mgladyoumentionedthatbecausewhenparentscomeintomyoffice,Isay,"Oh,welcome.Whatbringsyouhere?""Well,theschoolsaysJohnnyhasADDorADHD."Now,IcantellabitbyreadingyourbooksyouandIhavethatincommon.WeprobablyhadthelabelofADHD,likeahyperactivekid.Anyway,Isay,"Well,what'dyouhaveforbreakfast?"Oh,allthestuffandthecoloredstuffandthehighcarbsandlowfatandallthat.

DaveAsprey: FruityPebbles,yeah.

Dr.BillSears: Yeah,thatstuff.Isay,"Johnnydoesn'thaveADD.HehasNDD,nutritiondeficitdisorder.You'resayingjust-

DaveAsprey: Ithoughtyouweregoingtosaysalmondeficiencydisorder,butI...

Dr.BillSears: Yeah,salmon,likesalmondeficiency.Isay,"Yousendhimofftoschoolwithjunkfoodandyougetjunklearningandyougetjunkbehavior."Whatyoujustsaidforyour9-year-old,wow,asmartdiet,wecallit,agreatsmartdiet.Thankyou.

DaveAsprey: Wehaveacoupleofvegansmykidsgotoschoolwithandtheirparentswillgivethemanappleforbreakfast.Thesepoorkidscomeintoschoolandtheycan'tmakeitforanhourandahalfbeforetheirbrainsareallovertheplace.Thenthewholeclasshastostopsotheycanhavetheir10a.m.snack.It'slikereally?Mykidsgofourhourswithouteatingbecausetheyeatenoughandtheyeatenoughfat.Itmakesmesad.

Dr.BillSears: Theschoolteachersdon'tgetit.Infact,wehaveawholebookonfatandthat'scalledTheOmega-3Effect.Irealizedthatwasoneoftheproblemsinschools.There'sfascinatingresearch.Iknowyou'reashowmethesciencepersontoo,asIam,andIthinkourreadersdeservescience-basedinformation.Thereissolidscienceouttherethatyoustartyourchildofftoschoolwithasmartbreakfast,they'regoingtodomuchbetter.Itellmypatientsfoursmartfoodstogiveyourchildren.Seafood,mainlywildsalmon,blueberries,blueberriesarecalledthebrainberry,andgreensandnuts.Aneasywaytoremember,gofish,goblue,gogreens,andgonuts.

DaveAsprey: Youareamaster,afterhavingwritten45books,atmakingthingsmemorable.Questiononnuts,raworroasted,whichway?

Dr.BillSears: Raw.

DaveAsprey: Okay.Wedoagreeonalotofthings,don'twe?

Dr.BillSears: Don'tmesswithMotherNature.She'sgotalotmoreexperiencethanwedo.

DaveAsprey: It'strue.I'malloverhackingthingsandwhatIfoundisyourbodyisdesignedtorespondtotheenvironmentaroundyou,soyoucanchangethesignalandlet


MotherNaturerespondtothenewsignalyouputin,butyou'renotgoingtodowellbychangingthebuildingblocksofyourbody.Youcan'teataluminumandhavealuminumskin.Itdoesn'tworklikethat.

Dr.BillSears: Yeah,absolutely.Iloveyourtermbiohacker.It'sthefirstbookI'veeverreadthatusesthatterm.I'm,shallwesay,technologicallychallenged,soIhadtoaskmytechiejustwhathackermeantandeverything.IrealizedthatwhenIwasmakingmyhealthtransformation,Irealizedsomewhereinourbodywehavegottohaveapharmacybecausethedesignerofourbody,ifyouweremakingthegreatestmachineintheworld,thebrainandthebody,youwouldknowthatwe'regoingtomessitup.We'rehumans,sotopreventthat,preventivemedicine,youwouldputinsideourbodyapharmacythatmakesmostofthemedicineswe'reevergoingtoneed.ThatdiscoveryactuallywontheNobelPrize.Iremember20yearsagowhenIwasundergoingmytransformation,IinvitedtheNobelPrizewinnerwhodiscoveredthepharmacy,Dr.LouIgnarro,downtoourhomefordinnerandhewasteachingmeaboutthepharmacy.

Isaid,"Igottomakethissimple,"soifourlistenerscanhaveamentalimagenow,I'mgoingtotakeyouinsideyourbodyandshowyouwhereintheworldofyourbodyisyourpharmacyandit'stheliningofyourbloodvessels,calledtheendothelium.It'sthebiggestorganofthebodythatpeopleneverheardof,halfofthem.It'stheliningofyourbloodvessels.Icallitthesilverlining,hastrillions...There'sapicturenow,alittlementalpicture,trillionsofmicroscopicmedicinebottles.Theyactuallylookliketiny,littlesquirtbottlesunderamicroscope,squirtbottle.

Thosesquirtbottles,24/7,squirtmedicinesintoyourbloodstream,medicinesthatlowerthehighs,likehighbloodsugar,highbloodpressure,highbloodcholesterol,medicinesthatraisethelows,likeantidepressants,medicinesthatmellowyourmoods,antianxietymedicines,medicinesthathealyourhurt,antiinflammatories,medicinesthatkeepyourbloodfromclottingtoofast,anticoagulants.Ijustmentionedmostofthemedicineswetakeatallages,butwecanmakethem.Thepillsyoumakeinsidearebetterthanthepillsyoutakebecausethey'recustommadejustforyou.Theycomeouttherightdoseattherighttime.Thatis,Icouldsay,Ihopeit'scorrect,let'sbiohackandopenournaturalpharmacy.

DaveAsprey: Verywellsaid.Theideaofhacking,andIactuallywasacomputersecurityprofessionalinmyformerlife,theideaofhackingisyouneedtotakecontrolofasystem,butyoudon'tknowmuchaboutitbecauseit'snotyours.Itturnsoutwedon'tknowthatmuchaboutourbodies.Weknowmorethanweusedto,butthere'sstillalotofmysteriesinthere,soyoucanstilltakecontrolofitwithoutknowingeverything.Youjustneedenoughtogetin.

Whatyou'redescribingthere,ifyouimagineifyou'regoingtoinjectsomething,youinjectitintoyourblood,right,soitwouldmakesenseifyouwereevolvinga


systemlikethebody,thatwhyhavejustonespotforinjection?Justlinethearteriessotheycanputthingsintocirculationquickly.

Dr.BillSears: Exactly.

DaveAsprey: Endothelialdamageissomething,bytheway,youknowwhatfriedfoodsdo.

Dr.BillSears: Theyfryyourarteries,right?

DaveAsprey: Theydo.It'soneofthosethingsyoucouldsmokeacigaretteoryoucouldeatabunchoffriedfood.Whichonewouldyoupick?

Dr.BillSears: Actually,Ithinkthefriedfood'sprobablyworseforyou,butworseforyou.

DaveAsprey: Yeah,see,Idotoo.

Dr.BillSears: ItisforyoubecauseI'lltellyouwhy.Letmegobackintothepharmacyandgetthatmentalpictureofthoselittlesquirtbottlesliningyourarteries.Whenyoueatthatbigburgerorthatfriedchicken,ohyum,thatfriedchicken,itgoesintoyourbloodstreamanditspikes.Now,spikesisabadwordforinflammation.

DaveAsprey: Itspikesinflammation.Okay.

Dr.BillSears: Spike,spikes,spikes,spikes.Avoidspikes.Now,avoidstickystuffspikes.That'showImakeitsimpleformypatientsattheoffice.Isay,"Joe,man,you'reloadedwithstickystuffandIgottomeasureit."Whenthatfriedstuff,calledstickystuff,getsintoyourblood,itlandsontopofthemedicinebottlesandyourpharmacyisclosed.Everytimeyougetthatbigburgerandthatfriedchicken,thestickystuff...PictureI'mgettingstickystuffonthetopofmymedicinebottles.Now,stickystuff.

DaveAsprey: Isitfibrinogen,likeclottingfactorsyou'retalkingaboutor...

Dr.BillSears: Yeah,fibrinogen,hemoglobinA1C,homocysteine,oxidizedcholesterol.

DaveAsprey: Oh,somarkersofinflammation,basically.Okay.

Dr.BillSears: Themarkers,exactly.Forthekids,Icallitstickystuff.Infact,Iwasgivingatalkonedayatapreschool,ataschool,afirstgradeclass.Iwastalkingaboutifyouputstickystuffinyourmouth,yougetstickystuffontopofyourmedicinebottle,6-year-oldsnow,okay.Thatnight,momtooksomeoftheclassoutforlet'scallitstickyburgers,okay,outtoaburgerjoint,tostickyburgers.Astheypulledin,the6-year-oldscoldedherdaddy.Says,"Daddy,wecan'teatthat.Ifyouputstickystuffinyourmouth,yougetstickystuffontopofyourmedicinebottles."Oh,mygoodness,6yearsofage.

DaveAsprey: Kidsactuallywanttoeattobepowerfulwhenyoushowthemwhatit'sfor.


Dr.BillSears: Oh,theyloveit.

DaveAsprey: Withburgers,I'massumingifyoutakeoffthebunandalltheothercraptheyputonthemandyou'rejusteatinghighqualitybeef,thestorychanges?

Dr.BillSears: Itdoes,yes.Infact-

DaveAsprey: Okay.Ijustwantedtodoublecheckforlistenersgoing,"Ican'teatanyhamburgermeat."No,weeatalotofhamburgermeat,butIknowthecowitcamefrom.

Dr.BillSears: Exactly.Youtooktheburgerwordsrightoutofmymouth.

DaveAsprey: Okay.Justchecking.Youhadmescaredforaminute,likeno,he'santi-burger.Endofinterview.Justkidding.

Dr.BillSears: Beefisgood.

DaveAsprey: Okay.

Dr.BillSears: Webadmouthbeefbecauseofwhattheydotoit,soI'mgoingtoalittleconfessionhereforourlisteners.OnceortwiceamonthIhaveanice,big,juicyvenisonburger,wildgame.MyconsultationfeeforsomeoneinWisconsinorPennsylvania,mytwofavoritedeerstates,areIgetsomevenisoninthemail.Ilovemyvenison,oh,venisonburgerandaglassofzinfandelsippedslowlyandwow,butifIdon'tknowthefarmer,ifIdon'tknowthefarmthebeefcamefromandhowthatfarmercaredforthatbeef,Iwon'teatitandItellmypatientsnottoeatitifyoudon'tknowwhereitcamefrom.

DaveAsprey: Youhavetobereligiousaboutyourbeef.Mybeefhere,IliveonanorganicfarmonVancouverIsland,sothesalmonswimabouta10-minutewalkbehindthecameraandthecowsthatIeateatthegrassfromthetwoacresonthefrontofmyproperty.Theycomeandtheycutthegrassdownandtheygiveittothecows.That'snotalltheyeat.Theyeatothergrassfromotherplaces,butthere'snoRoundup.It'sneverbeensprayedwithRoundup.It'sascleanasIcanmakeitbecauseIhavetwoyoungkidsandthey'resensitivetothiskindofstufflikeallchildrenare.Minearen'tmoresensitive.They'rejustsupposedtobegrowingupinthisenvironmentandit'sprobablygoodforme,too,giventhatI'mflying120daysoftheyear.

Dr.BillSears: Yeah,Ido,too,alot.

DaveAsprey: Youdo,too.

Dr.BillSears: Igetaround.


DaveAsprey: Letmeaskyouaboutthatbecauseyou're77yearsold.Youlookreallyhealthy.It'shardonmetoflythatmuch,buthowdoyoustayhealthywhenyoufly?Whatdoyoudobeforeyougetonanairplane,whenyou'reintheair,andwhenyouland?Ihavetoknowbecausealmostnooneyouragecanfly.

Dr.BillSears: Sure.I'lltellyoumylittletrip.LastyearIflew155,000milesonAmericanAirline.Here'swhatIdo.Now,I'm77,butI'menjoyingthegoalofeverysenior.Everythingworksandnothinghurts.That'sthegoalIhavefortheseniorsinmypractice.WhatIdopriortotheflight,allright,Imakeabigsmoothie.Itake13ingredientsandImakeasmoothieandIsiponitonthewaytotheairport.IamloadingmybodyandbrainwithantioxidantsbecauseI'mgoingtobeuptherewithradiationgetting,shallwesay,oxidized.

ThenwhenIgettothegateandgetthroughthegate,Iwalkaroundalot.IdowhatIcallisometrics,whereyou'restandingtenseandyouputyourarmstogetherandyoustandonyourtoesandyoujustreallygetthebloodmoving.Infact,Iwasdoingthatbeforeaflightonetime.Oneoftheflightattendantscameupandsaid,"Sir,ifyou'reafraidofflying,wehavecounselorsforthat,"becauseIwasdoingthistenseexercise.

ThenwhenIgetontheplane,Idoisometrics.Icangetagoodworkout.Iliftmylegsupandputtheheelstogetherandflexmypecsandflexallthemuscles,abouteveryfiveminutesdoalittleoneminuteofisometrics.Itakelotsofdeepbreaths.It'sinteresting.There'sbeenastudyshowingthatpilots,iftheyloadthemselvesupwithantioxidants,havelesseffectsfromradiation,antioxidantfruitsandvegetableslikeyoumentionsomuchthroughoutyourBulletproofDietbook.ThenwhereIstay,Ionlystayathotelswithopenwindows,freshair.

DaveAsprey: Me,too.Iwouldliketosaythat,butmyassistantsaysit'slikeprioritizethat,yes.

Dr.BillSears: It'sveryhard.Ihaveapool,haveagym,andIalsotakemyexercisebands,thebands.Iputthoseinthesuitcase.Sometimeswhentheflightislateordelayed,I'llgointhemen'sroomandhavealittleworkoutonmyexercisebands.Thosearejustsomegoodoldtraveltips.Itakeabaggyofnutsandnibbleonnutsasasnack.

DaveAsprey: Itmakessomuchsense.Itakeabigfistfulofplant-basedantioxidantswhenItravel,aswell.IalwaysmakesureIhaveketonespresent,usingBrainOctane,soIwillgothroughthegateandthenI'llgototheusuallyit'saStarbucksattheairport.Starbuckshasthebestwaterfiltersofanycoffeecompany.

Dr.BillSears: Oh,it'sgoodtoknow.Good.

DaveAsprey: Forthehotwater,atleast.They'reverystrictaboutthat.IknowbecauseIhiredthreeofthefirst10StarbucksemployeesatBulletproof.Ijustgo,Isay,"CanI


getsomehotwater?"ItipthemreallywellandthenIpourmyowngroundcoffeeandIbrewmycoffee.

Dr.BillSears: Oh,goodforyou.

DaveAsprey: Ishakeitup,butIwanttheBrainOctane,soIdothatandmyfistfulofantioxidantsbeforeIgeton.Coffeeitselfhasthepolyphenolsbecauseifyou'reintheairwiththebadairthat'srecirculated,everything'scoveredinendocrinedisruptorsandflameretardantsandyou'rebreathingGodknowswhat,jetexhaust.Yougottoprotectyourself,right?

Dr.BillSears: Oh,youreallydo.That'sthething.Really,theolderweget,themorewehavetoprotectourselves.Oneofthethings,too,Itravel.See,travel,you'reoutofyourcomfortzoneathome.You'reoutofyourkitchen.You'reawayfromyourfarm,sothere'sthattendencytogodownthatbigpig-outbuffetwhenyoutravel.IhavealittlewhatIcallmyruleoftwos.Eattwiceasoften,eathalfasmuch,andchewtwiceaslong.Thesmalleryourmeal,thebetteryou'llfeel.EvenwhenItravel,Itrytokeepthosesmallermealsbecauseit'ssohard.You'regoingouttodinnerwithfriendsorafteralecture,I'msureyou'retired.You'reverytiredandhungryafteralecture.

DaveAsprey: Takesalotofenergy,yeah.

Dr.BillSears: Takesalotofenergy,soit'sveryhardnotto,shallwesay,pigoutwhenyoutravel.

DaveAsprey: Now,IpracticeintermittentfastingquiteoftenwhenItravel.ThatusuallymeansIdohaveabigmeal,butit'skindoftwobigmealsintheday.ImighthaveBulletproofcoffeeforbreakfastornobreakfast.ThenI'llhaveasizeablelunchandamoderate-to-sizeabledinner,butwithacouplethousandcalories,atleast.Isthatsomethingyou'drecommendornotrecommend?It'sfinetosayit'snotwhatyou'drecommend,butI'mcurious.

Dr.BillSears: It'ssomethingthatIpersonallyamnotafanof.However,see,whatI'velearnedis...Idon'tlikethesebooksthatsaynevereatthis.Never[inaudible00:29:24].Intermittentfasting,Ihaveseveralpatientsinmyofficewhoswearbyit.Itworks.

DaveAsprey: Forsomepeople.

Dr.BillSears: Itreallyworksforsomepeople.Again,see,whenitworks,goodsense.See,whatyou'redoingwithintermittentfasting,you'regivingthe...Youmentionedmitochondria.I'msogladyoumentionedthat.Ilovethoselittleenergybatteries.

DaveAsprey: Yeah,we'lltalkmoreaboutthose,yeah.


Dr.BillSears: Yeah,let'sdoit.Let'stalk.

DaveAsprey: Tellmemore.

Dr.BillSears: Withintermittentfasting,whatyou'redoingisloweringspikes,seespikes.Avoidspikes.Iteachthisinmyoffice,somaybeI'lldothatnow.Let'ssaywehaveGeorgethegorger,allright,Georgethegorger.Ourlisteners,sorrymenthatwe'llusemenasthenot-too-healthygenderandtheladiesasthepictureofhealth.That'sforpoliticalreasons,butsayGeorgethegorger.Georgedoesn'tintermittentfast.Hejustgorges,bigplates,bigfries,fasteater,fast,fasteater.

Withinanhour,George'sspikes,stickystuffspikesinhisbloodgowayupandthebloodflowtothebrainquivers.Youdon'twantthat.Thebloodflowtotheheart,thebloodflowtothejoints,thegut,thevesselsareinspasmfromhighspikes.GraciethegrazerorGracietheintermittentfasterdoesnotspike.ThesimplestIcanmaketheeffectofintermittentspiking,intermittentfasting,itavoidsinsulinspikes.See,avoidinginsulinspikes...Ifsomebodysaygivemehealthinthreewords,Iwouldchooseavoidinsulinspikes.That'swhatintermittentfastingdoes.

DaveAsprey: It'sawesomebecauseIcametothesameconclusionafterreadingGaryTaubes'bookandalsojustmeetingGaryTaubes.HespokeattheantiagingnonprofitgroupthatIrun.Iwaslikeokay,there'ssomethingtobesaidforkeepinginsulinlow,sowhatIcaneatinthemorningthathaszeroinsulineffectandtheanswerisfat.

Dr.BillSears: Yeah,exactly.

DaveAsprey: ThatwasoneofthethingsbehindBulletproofcoffeeandit'sbeenmeasuredbythirdparties.There'szeroinsulineffect,soIdon'tgetaninsulinspike.Oh,thepancreascanrelax.There'snoproteindigestion,whichalsocausesinsulin.Thatwasoneoftheideasthatcametogetherintomakingthatwhatwouldyoudo.TheotheronecamefromRobertAtkins,theoldinductionperiodwherehe'dtellyoutoeat-

Dr.BillSears: Thefatguy.

DaveAsprey: Yeah,liketwoouncesofcreamcheeseorsomething,butthere'sreasonsnottodothat.Itdidcometogether,soIlovethatideaavoidspikes.Whatotherspikesbesidesinsulinshouldweavoid,though?

Dr.BillSears: Sugarspikes.

DaveAsprey: Okay.Glucose.

Dr.BillSears: Youmentionedthemagicwordthereofhealth,relax.Saylet'stalkaboutyourarteriesagainbecauseitisamedicaltruismthateveryorganinourbodyisonly


ashealthyasthebloodsupplytoit.Ifourvesselsarehealthy,ourorgansarehealthy.Whenyoueat,say,drinkacola.Letmestartwiththeworstspikeyouget,acola,sugarwater,badstuff.Youdrinkacola,youspike.Youeatanegg,forexample,whichisfatandprotein,andyoudon'tspike.IfIwereabloodvesselandcouldtalktotheeggeater,Iwouldsaythankyou.Relax,man.I'mrelaxingmyvessels.Whenmyvesselsrelax,they'reopenmore.Igetmorebloodflowtothebrain.Thefatandproteinsaystothearteriesrelax,man.Thecolathatyouguzzlesaysprepareforaspikeandyou'regoingtoquiverandyou'regoingtogetmorenarrow.You'renotrelaxing.Ilovethat.Infact,maybeyourBulletproofDietcouldjustsummarizesayingrelax,man.

DaveAsprey: Ilikeit.

Dr.BillSears: Relaxyourbloodvessels.

DaveAsprey: Stressdoesaffectbloodvessels,anykindofstress.Evenifyouhaveabadrelationship,itwillbereflectedintheendothelium.Now,Iwanttoaskaboutinflammationingeneralmore,butlet'szoominforlisteners.Whatcanyoudotomakeyourendotheliumhealthierquickly?

Dr.BillSears: Allright.Twoverysimplethings.OneIcallitmyFiveSDietintheinflammationbook.Salmon,seafood,wildsockeyesalmonyoumentioned.Smoothies,ashakeadayrelaxesendotheliumthatway.

DaveAsprey: That'smadeoutofsugarorbananas.

Dr.BillSears: No,lotsoffruit.

DaveAsprey: Okay.Whatdoyouputinyoursmoothie?

Dr.BillSears: Dave,yourmothertoldyouthat,putmorecoloronyourplateandyoursmoothie,soIput-

DaveAsprey: Okay.Polyphenolsthen?

Dr.BillSears: Yes,berries.Wow,berries,fabulousstuff,berries.Iputavocado,coconutoil,andnutbuttersinmysmoothie.

DaveAsprey: Thereyougo.That'sagoodsmoothie.

Dr.BillSears: Threefatsthereonaverybusyday,ahigh-energydaylikeinmyoffice,Iputthosethreefats.ThenIputfourdifferentberries.IputkaleinitandIputagoodproteinpowderandkefirorgreenteaismyfavoritefluid.Igetpomegranateswhenthey'reinseasonandIscoopoutonewholepomegranateandthrowthatin.ThenIsiponmysmoothiethroughouttheday.Thenthefourthissnacks,theruleoftwos,see,twiceasoften,halfasmuch,andchewtwiceaslong.Thenthenextissupplements.ThreemainsupplementsisOmega-3supplementsifyou


don'tlikefish.Fruitandvegetablesupplementsifyoudon'teat10fistfulsaday.Thenifyoudon'tlikesalmon,Hawaiianastaxanthinsupplement,aantiinflammatory.Firstofalltokeepdownthestickystuff,tokeeptheendotheliumopen,theFiveSDiet,whichisaplant-baseddiet,andseafood.Notavegandiet,butplant-basedandseafood.

Thesecondlyismovement.Iwanttoreallyshowyousomefascinatingnewstudies.Yougotothedoctorandsays,"Joe,yougottomovemore,man.You'reasitter.Yougottobeamover."Theydon'ttellyouwhy,solet'sgobackintothebloodvesselandpicturethatbloodvesselwiththesilverliningandallthosetrillionsofsquirtbottles.Whenyoumove,whenyoujog,whenyoudance,whenyourunoryoujustwalkfast,thefasterbloodflowoverthetopsofthemedicinebottlescreatesaenergyfieldcalledasheerforceanditpopsthemedicinebottlesopen.

Nexttimeyou'reonatreadmillorwalkingwithfriends,justthinkI'mopeningmymedicinebottles.Ifyoureallywanttoshockyourfriendsinthegymonthetreadmillnexttoyou,say,"Oh,itfeelssogoodtobemakingmyownmedicinesandopeningmymedicinebottles."Oryoucouldreallyshockthemandsay,"Itfeelssogoodtobegrowingmybraingarden,"becauseoneofthemedicinesyoumakewhenyoumoveiscalledbraingrowthfactor,fertilizerforourbraingarden.Youcouldjustsay,"I'mfertilizingmybraingardenwhenI'mrunning."

DaveAsprey: Oh,somuchknowledgethere.Thebraingrowthfactorispartofthebrain-derivedneurotrophicfactor,right,BDNF?

Dr.BillSears: Yes,yes.

DaveAsprey: IwriteaboutthatinHeadStrongandweareactuallylaunchingasupplementcalledNeuroMasterthatincreasesBDNFfourtimesmorethanexercise.

Dr.BillSears: Wow.Whoa.

DaveAsprey: It'sapolyphenolextractofthefruitofcoffee,ratherthanthecoffeebeans.Itturnsoutthatallthatbrightredcoffeecherries,theyhaveusefulinthisstuffifyoudon'tletthemspoilduringcoffeeprocessing,sowecantakethoseandpulloutthisonecompoundthat'sclinicallystudiedtoraiseBDNF.

Dr.BillSears: Good.Goodforyou.

DaveAsprey: Myhippocampalvolumeat44isinthe86thpercentileandforpeoplelistening,thatmeansthesizeofmybrainstructurethatshrinkswhenyouage,it'snotshrinkingbecauseofthepracticesthatareintheBulletproofDietandraisingBDNFwithexerciseandthensheerforce.

Dr.BillSears: I'msogladyou'redoingthesheerforce,yes.


DaveAsprey: Sheerforces.Thismorning,Ispent18minutesontheBulletproofViberightbeforeourinterview.Thisisawholebodyvibrationplatformthatwemanufacture.30timesaseconditgoesupanddownanditcreatesasheerforcekindoflikeatrampolinewould,butatrampolineisonceasecond.Thisis30timesasecond.Youbendyourlegsalittlebit,butit'screatingthissystemicvibration,whichabsolutelyhasendothelialeffects.

Dr.BillSears: Yes,yes.

DaveAsprey: Ididitinfrontofatanninglampthat'shighinUVBandlowinUVAbecauseultravioletlightalsohassomeeffectsonmitochondriaandevenonyourendotheliallayerbyreleasingnitricoxide.There'ssomuchyoucando,butevenjustawalkisenough,right?

Dr.BillSears: Afastwalk.See,inordertogetthatsheerforceyoumentioned,thebloodhastotravelfairlyfastoverthemedicinebottlestocreatethatsheerforce.Asyousay,it'snitricoxide.Whatyoumentioned,that'sthemedicinewe'remaking.I'lltellyoualittlestory.IwasgivingatalkinNashvillelastyear,themusiccapitalofthecountry.IthoughtIwasgoingtowalkinandtalktoagroupofadults.Igoinandthere150children,soIhadtomakeitchildlike,soIchangedthetitletoAVisitto[Veggieland00:39:57].

Veggielandwasyourbrainandhealthmakesbeautifulmusic.Youthinkofyourbrainlikeasymphonyorchestraandithasaboutahundreddifferentplayersinthatorchestra.Insulinisyourmasterconductorandbraingrowthfactorisanothermasterconductor.Whenthoseconductorsarerighton,allyourneurohormonesorneurotransmittersallcometogetherandplaybeautifulmusic.Let'scalltheconductorVEG,vascularendothelialgrowthfactor,becauseitmakesmorebraingrowth.AlittlegirlcomesuptomeafterwardsbynameofAnnabelleandshesays,"Dr.Sears,IwillalwaysrememberVEG.IwillalwaysremembertogrowmoreVEGformybrainbymovingmore.WhenIgetoutandplayandwhenIgetoutandrun,I'llrememberI'mgrowingmoreVEG."

DaveAsprey: Kidsaresocute.

Dr.BillSears: Theyare.

DaveAsprey: IpostedastudytheotherdayonFacebook.Theyfoundthatwhenboys,whentheygetlessthanthreehoursofphysicalmovementaday,theirmathandreadingskillsdecline,butnotingirls,eventhoughbothgendersneedthatkindofexercise.Itmaybebecauseit'smediatedbyVEGF.Idon'tthinkweknowthemechanismsthere.Wejustknowiftheydon'tmovearound,theirbrainsdon'twork.

Dr.BillSears: You'reexactlyright.Infact,there'sastudy.IgaveatalkthereinNaperville,Illinois.Igrewupinthebig,stickyfoodeatingMidwest,butthisstudycameoutofNaperville,Illinois,wheretheytookhighschoolkidswhohadsomeoftheDs,


ADD,ADHD,andallthisstuff,andtheybroughtthemtoschoolahalfhourearlyandtheyranthemaroundthetrack.Manyofthemcouldcomeofftheirmeds.Theirtestscoreswentwayupandtheteacherssaid,"Whatisgoingon?"Theyfoundthatthemorethestudentsmove,thebettertheydidinclass.

I'lltellyoumyownlittleADHDstory.Thisisgoingback60someoddyears,waybackinthefourthgrade.Myfourthgradeteacher,Sr.MaryUrsula,UrsulameanslittlebearinLatin.Now,littlebearhadmynumber.Shesaid,"Billy,you'restaringoutthewindow,"becauseIwantedtobeoutthewindow."You'restaringoutthewindowandyou'refidgeting.Gooutsideandrunaroundtheschoolyardthreetimesandcomebackandsitstill."ThatwasmyRitalin.Itworkedlikeacharm.

Fastforwardnowtothisyear.ThenumberonemedicinefortheDs,ADD,ADHD,andschoolproblemsandall,alittlefourletterword,move,movemore.Whentheytookrecessoutofschool,theRitalindosagewentup.Ithinkthere'sacorrelation.

DaveAsprey: Whatyou'resayingisthatyoucouldjustsubstituteRitalinforrecesstosavetimeandbemoreeffectiveonstandardizedtests?

Dr.BillSears: Ohyeah,right.Yes.Themorekidsmove...Wehadaruleinourhouse,youmightgiveusthat,thatsittingequalsmoving.Themoretimeyousitplayingvideogames,thatmustequalthetimeyouspentmoving.Infact,Irememberoneofourkids.Ilovethesenewtechstuffthat'scomingoutwherekidsareactuallymovinglikejumpingonatrampolineordancingtothevideos.IlovethoseDanceRevolutiontypeofvideos.

DaveAsprey: Mykidsareallowedtoplaythateventhoughthey'reinaWaldorfschool.They'renotreallysupposedto.Itellyou,mykidshavethemoves.Theycanoutdancemebecausethesevideogamesshowtheirbrainandtheirbodyworktogetherwhentheydothatandtheymove.It'shealthy.

Dr.BillSears: Youmentionedthemagicmove,dance.Actually,whenIreadtheresearchhowdancershaveamuchlowerincidenceofAlzheimer's,wetookupdancing.MywifeandItookupdancing.We'reveryaccomplishedballroomdancersnow.See,dancing,Dave,it'snotonlythemovement,butyouhavetocoordinatethemusic.Now,I'maklutz.Mywife'saverygooddancer.I'maklutzandsowhenwestartout,IhadtoholdacuecardbehindherbackandfollowthecuecardasIwasdancingbeforeIgottherhythm,butdance,Ican'tthinkofa...Mytwofavoriteexercisesareswimminganddancing.

DaveAsprey: Oneofthethingsaboutdancing,youhavetomoveoverthecenterlineofthebody.There'scrosspatterning,whichincreasesthecorpuscallosum.

Dr.BillSears: Exactly.You'reright.


DaveAsprey: TheotheronelikethatthatIwouldsuggestforlistenersispingpong.

Dr.BillSears: Oh,yes.

DaveAsprey: ThatcamefromDanielAmen,who'safriend.IwentandIsawhimandhe'slike,"Dave,foryourbrain,playpingpong,"soIboughtapingpongrobot.ItservespingpongballsreallyfastandyoucansitthereandkindoftryanddotheBruceLeething,butbecauseyouhavetothinkandmoveacrossthemidline,atleastformybrain,whereIdidn'tlearntomovewellasakid,Ireadat18months,soIwasjustreadingasakidinsteadofcrawlinganddoingallthisotherstuff.I'maklutz,too.Mydancing,it'simprovedrecently,butit'saboutasgoodasmysingingandrapping,whichisprettylimited.We'llputitthatway.

Dr.BillSears: Wewon'tsingforourlistenersthen.

DaveAsprey: Idid,bytheway.Ishotmyfirstraprecently.I'mnotarapperorevenintothegenreparticularly,butagoodfriendis,sotopromoteHeadStrong,wefilmedarealandrecordedarealrapwithrealpeoplewhoknowhowtodoit,whichforme,wasacognitivechallenge,likepushingyourlimits.PeoplewilleventuallybeabletoseethisonYouTube,whereI'mcompletelymakingafoolofmyself,butitwasforagoodcause.HowheadstrongamI?CanItakeupsomethingIknownothingaboutandthenonlyfailalittlebit?

Dr.BillSears: Goodforyou.I'msogladyoumentionedpingpongbecausewehaveanewbookcomingoutcalledTransformFive:MakeOverYourMindandBody.FiveChangesinFiveWeeks.Wehavealistofbestexercisesforyourbrain.

DaveAsprey: Oh,cool.I'llreadthat.

Dr.BillSears: Wehavedanceandpingpongbecauseyouhavetoreactveryquickly,soI'msogladyoumentionedpingpong.AnotherthingI'msureinHeadStrongyou'regoingtotalkalotabout,meditation.

DaveAsprey: Oh,it'sgiant.Infact,Iruntheworld'shighestendneurofeedbackmeditationclinic,likeafivedayfocusprogramwithclinicalgradeelectrodesonyourhead.It'schangedmylife.

Dr.BillSears: Oh,goodforyou.

DaveAsprey: Yeah,it'scalled40YearsofZen.It'soutsideofBulletproof,butit'sbig.

Dr.BillSears: Oh,good.Goodforyou.See,whatyou'retalkingabout...See,wehaven'tmentionedanyprescriptionmedicines.Whatwe'retalkingaboutiswhatIcallthepillsandskillsmodel,skillsbeforepills.Now,weallknowthatyouwillreachapointwhereyoudoneedsomepillsandyouneedsupplements,butpillsandskills.Oneofthosebeautifulskillsisthewaywestarttheday.Ifyourbraincouldpromptyou,whichitsoundslikeithasforyou,itwouldsaystartthedaya


beautifulwaybymeditation.Everybodyhastheirownway.WhatIloveisIcallitswimmingmeditation.There'sactuallyanameforitcalledflotationtherapy.

DaveAsprey: Oh,inaflotationchamber?

Dr.BillSears: No.Idoitjustinthepool,butthere'sachamber,too,butyougetinapool.Thebreaststrokeistheeasiestandyoutimethebreaststroketoyourmantra.

DaveAsprey: Wow.I'veneverheardofthis,butit'ssosmart.

Dr.BillSears: Ilovemylife.Ilovemywife.Guidemetodayorsomethingwhereyou'reswimmingintherhythmofwhatyou'rethinking.

DaveAsprey: That'spowerful.Wow.

Dr.BillSears: Itisafabulouswaytostarttheday.

DaveAsprey: There'ssomethingIlearnedinTibetcalledawalkingmeditation,whereyouwalkreallyslowlywithfullawarenessofeachstepandyourepeatamantra,butdoingitswimmingputsyouinmoreofaparasympathetic,moreoflikeaprenatalthing.Swimmingdoessomethingtoyournervoussystemlikeyouhadwhenyou'reinthewomb.You'remoreprogrammableinwater,basically.

Dr.BillSears: Exactly,yes.

DaveAsprey: Wow.Noone'severmentionedthat.Likein360episodes,you'rethefirstperson.That'sawesome,Bill.Ineverknew.

Dr.BillSears: That'swhyswimmingisthebestexerciseduringpregnancyforthewomen.It'saflotationtherapyandsee,thereasonisIthinkit'swalking,walkingisgreat,too.Iwalkalot,butwithswimming,yournaturalfloating.There'sanaturalrhythm.Youcanperiodicallyjuststopandkickyourfeet.Icallitmindmute.Ijustmutemymindformaybefiveor10secondsasyou'redanglingandfloating.Thenyougetbacktoyourmantra.Therhythminthepoolis,Ithink,muchmorebrainfriendlyformeditationthanmaybewalking,althoughagood,oldwalkinthewoods,youcan'tbeatthat.

DaveAsprey: Ibelieveyou'reabsolutelyright.Itremindsme,too,Ifilmedadocumentaryontoxicmoldexposurefromtheenvironment,whichis,inmyexperience,thesinglebiggestmitochondrialpoisoninghappeningintheworldotherthanmaybeglyphosate.Thankyou,Monsanto,forsprayingitoneverything.Thosethingsaresuchaproblem.OneofthepeopleIfilmedwasonawalker.Shecouldbarelymove.Whatshewoulddoisshewoulddragherwalkertotheswimmingpool,fallintothewater,andthenwhenshewasinthewater,shecouldswim.She'dswimtwolaps,climbout,andwalkandgoaboutherdaywithoutthewalker.


Dr.BillSears: Oh,wow.Thatisfabulous.

DaveAsprey: It'sprofound.

Dr.BillSears: It'sprofound.That'sagoodwordforitbecausethat'swhy,Ithinkit'slawnow,thateverypool,especiallypublicpools,musthavealift,aelectriclift,soifyouarehandicapped,youjustsitthere.Infact,Iwaskiddingmywifeoneday.Isaid,"WhenIgettoooldtowalk,justdumpmeinthepoolinthemorningandpickmeupintheevening.Letmefloataround."

DaveAsprey: It'sperfect.Forher,theneurologicaleffectoffloatingandkickingturnedhernervoussystembackon.Shewasabletofunctiononlyifsheswameveryday.

Dr.BillSears: Absolutely.

DaveAsprey: Whataweirdsymptomfrommitochondrialpoisoning,butitgoesdowntoyourbrainandjustbeingrewired.There'salsoflotationtanks.Ihaveonedownstairs,theoneswithEpsomsalt,whereyoucanjustcloseyoureyesandfloatasawayofacceleratingmeditation.Ifindthereareprobablyfasterwaystodothatwithfeedbackthantherearejustfromminimizingnoise.Doyourecommendthose?Doyouuseflotationtanks?

Dr.BillSears: Ido.

DaveAsprey: Okay.

Dr.BillSears: Yes,Ido.Idon'thaveone,butasImentionedearlier,Iperiodicallymaybeoh,every10minutesduringmyhalfhourswim,IwillpretendI'msortofinatankandjustgotothedeependorsometimesthedeependwhereIcanjustputmytoeontheverybottomandjustsortofdangle.See,thebeautifulthingaboutatankisyoucandangle.It'sthatweightlessdanglefeelingthatmutesyourmind.Ithinkwhenyoutakepressureoffyourbody,youtakepressureoffyourmind,soyes,I'marealfavorofthosetanks.

DaveAsprey: Whataboutcold?Doyoueverdoicebaths,coldshowers,rollinginsnowandgettinginsaunas,anyofthatkindofweirdstuff?

Dr.BillSears: Ido.Infact,itsoundslikewe'reweirdinthesameway,Dave.

DaveAsprey: IinterviewedWimHoftheotherday,theIceman,aboutthis.Yeah,soyoucanpracticethis.

Dr.BillSears: WhenwewerefishinginAlaskaonafishingboat,wewentupnexttoanicebergandIjustcouldn'tresist.IputmySpeedoson,althoughmydaughterssay,"Dad,you'retoooldforSpeedos."Isay,"Nonsense."IputmySpeedosonandIjumpedintheicywaterrightnexttotheiceberg,10seconds.Thatwasit.


DaveAsprey: Isn'tthatwherethegreatwhitesswim?No,I'mkidding.

Dr.BillSears: Yeah,you'reright.Canoutswimthem.

DaveAsprey: Youwerechumming.

Dr.BillSears: Yeah,butinandout.It'sinteresting.Someresortshaveplungepoolswhereyougoinahottubandthenyougointoacoldtub.It'sextremelyinvigoratingandthenrelaxing,soIlovethatcoldtherapy,ifyouwanttocallit.

DaveAsprey: Theideaofcallingitrelaxing,mostpeoplelisteningwho'venevertriedthisaregoing,"It'snotrelaxing.Itfeelslikeyou'regoingtodie."There'ssomethingweirdthathappens.I'vegotatankthatgetsmeuptomyneckifI'msittingandithasadigitalchilleronitbecausetheclinicaltanksareveryexpensive,soIboughtanagriculturallivestocktankandplumbeditupmyself.Thedigitalchilleristhecoolpart,soIdialin60degreesandyougetinthereandatfirst,like,"I'mgoingtodie."Thenfiveminuteslater,youfeellikeyou'reinahottub.Everything'sjusttinglyandgood.It'sveryodd.

Dr.BillSears: Oddisagoodwordforit,butit'safter...Doyoufeelafterwards,maybefiveminuteslater,adifferentfeelingofrelaxation?

DaveAsprey: Yeah.Somethingreallygoodhappens.Ibelieveit'sbecauseyourmitochondriashrinkandtheelectrontransportchainbecomesmoreefficientandyougetallsortsofopiatesthatarereleased.It'sapowerfulthing,eventhoughyou'recoldforawhile.Peoplewhohugyouwillbelike,"Youfeelcolder,"butyoufeelbetter.It'skindofstrange.

Dr.BillSears: Exactly.Exactly.

DaveAsprey: IdidthisoncewhenIwasdoingtheresearchfortheBulletproofDiet.IwasinLasVegasandatareallystressfulflightsallovertheplace.IdidanicebathinmytubinthehotelandthenIwentouttoapartyfromsomebigtechnologyvendor.ThiswaswhenIwasstillworkingincomputersecurity.ItturnsouttheyhadoneofthePlayboyPlaymatesoftheYearandalltheseincrediblyattractivewomenthereandabunchofold,married,whiteguysfromthecomputersecurityindustry,whichisapartyofgeeks.Itwasfunny.IgotahugfromoneofthewomenandI'mforgettinghernamerightnow,butshewasreallycool.Wetalkedaboutskincare.Shegavemeahugandshewas,"Ah,you'rereallycold."I'mlike,"Oh,Iforgot.Iwasdoinganicebath."Shewaslike,"I'mhuggingacorpse.What'sgoingonwiththis."Like,"No,Ifeelreallygood.Ipromise."Itwasfunny.

Dr.BillSears: Yeah.See,whatnature..WehavealittlechapterinthebookTheHealing.It'scalledGoOutsideandPlayisthenameofthechapter.LikeDr.Momsaid,rememberourmother'smedicineforboredomandbadbehavior?


DaveAsprey: What'sthat?

Dr.BillSears: Gooutsideandplay.Mymomusedto,"Gooutsideandplay."It'sinterestingthehealingeffectsofnature.WelearnedthatoverinJapan.IwaslecturinginJapanonbrainhealthandafteroneofthelectures,ourguestsays,"Nowwe'regoingtotakeyouandMrs.Searsoutforsomeshinrin-yoku,"whichIthoughtwasadrink.

DaveAsprey: Yeah,soundslikeagoodsaki.

Dr.BillSears: Iwastiredafterlecturingalldayandsowegetinthecarandwedriveuptoamountaintopintothewoodswithpinetrees.Youcanfeelthehumidity,thecoolnessandall.Hesays,"Andwe'regoingtowalkaroundthewoodsforhalfhourandthengetbackinthecar."Wow,naturetherapy,thehealingeffectsofjustasimplewalkinthewoods.Wow.

DaveAsprey: Ispecificallyliveinaforestsothat's...Outthewindowtomylefthereisthepaththatgoesdownandwindsthrough.Wedon'thavequiteancientstuffbecauseyearsago,someonecutdownallthereallybigtreesandsoldthem.Bastards.Wehaveeven50and80-year-oldtrees,butthey'reyoungbylocalstandards.There'sabookcalledTheSecretLifeofTrees.Haveyoueverheardofthis?

Dr.BillSears: Ireadit.Ireadit.Ireaditontheairplanetheotherday.Yeah,it'swonderful.Oh,Iloveit.

DaveAsprey: It'safascinatingbook.Forestbathing,there'swisdominthosetrees.They'realive.

Dr.BillSears: Yeah,theforestbathing,exactly.It'sforestbathing.That'swhatshinrin-yokuinJapan,probablynotpronouncingitright,means,forestbathing.Wow,that'sthetrees.Actually,I'lltellyouatreestorysincewe'retalkingabouttrees.IwasoverlecturinginSingaporelastyearandwewentintothiswhattheycallabilliondollargarden.Itwasabiggreenhouse,costabilliondollarstobuild.Theyhadallthebestarchitectsintheworld,alltheplantexpertsandeverything,butaftertheyfinished,theynoticedthetreesandtheplantsweredying.

Now,theyhadallthearchitectureandeverything.Somebodyfiguredoutwe'refeedingthemproperly,we'refertilizing,we'redoingeverythingtheydoinnature,butthey'redying.Thenonesmartpersonsaid,"Youknowwhat?Noticethetrees.Theydon'tmove.Theleavesarestill."Thentheyputfanstoletthetreesmovealittlebitandtheyflourished.It'salmostlikegosh,wecantakealessonfromIcallitlessonfromleaves,thatifyouarestilltoomuch,sittoomuchanddon'tmove,youwither.Ifyoumove,youflourish.That'slessonsfromleaves.


DaveAsprey: It'sinteresting.Humansandtreesandallanimals,thewaterinourcellsisdifferentandtheguywhodiscoveredthis,Dr.GeraldPollack,spokeattheBulletproofconferencelastyearaboutexclusionsonwater.Itturnsoutthetwothingsthataregoingtomakeitaremovementandinfraredlight.WhenyouputtreesunderLEDlightswhenthey'reinfrared,theydon'tgetit.Whentheyhavenomovementfromwind,theydon'tgetit.Theirsapisthewrongviscosityandwhenwedon'tgetit,ourblood,andmoreimportantly,thewaterthatallowsthesebatteriesinourcellstoworkisalsothewrongviscosity.It'stoothickornotthickenough.It'sreallyinterestingtotryandputtogetheryourownforestwhenwe'restillunderstandingmitochondrialdynamicsandmaybedon'treallyhaveafullgraspofeverythingmitochondriadoyet.

Dr.BillSears: Mm-hmm(affirmative).Youknowwhat'sinteresting?Verysimplyandwewritealotaboutmitochondria.Wetalkaboutmightymitochondria.

DaveAsprey: Infact,that'sthenameofachapterinmynewbook.

Dr.BillSears: Mightymitochondriaandthelittle[mitos01:00:29].Whenyoufeedthemandsee,twothingshere.We'reonlyashealthyasthebloodvesselsfeedingourorgans,buteveryorgan'sonlyashealthyaseverycellinit.Everycellisonlyhealthyasthehealthofthemitochondriainthecell.Youtakecareofthecellmembrane,thatpackageofthecell,andthemitochondriafunctionbetterandyoudon'tgetmitochondrialdysfunction,anotherdysfunction.Youknowwhatthemembraneismadeofmostly?Fat,gettingbacktothehealthyfats.

DaveAsprey: Undamagedfat.Notfriedfat,notmargarine.

Dr.BillSears: Undamagedfats,right,goodfats.Itsayswe'regoingtoletinthegoodstuffforthemitochondriaandwe'regoingtokickoutthebadstuff,takecareofyourcellularmembranes.

DaveAsprey: Yeah.Ifpeopleregularlygotlabtestsfortheircellmembranefunction,they'dbescared.Iactuallygotonedonerecently.IwishIcouldrememberthenameofthelaboffhand,butIdidaverycomprehensivepanel,probablythemostcomprehensiveI'veeverdonewithafull-bodyFMRIandDEXAandeverything.TheysaidIhadoneofthebettercellmembranefunctionings.Like,"It'sveryunusualforsomeoneinyourageandprofessiontohavefunctioningcellmembranes."Like,yeah,it'sbydesign.

Dr.BillSears: Bydesign,absolutely.Again,IcanimagineifI'dsaidthattomypatients,"Hey,youhaveacellmembranedysfunction,"theywouldn'thaveacluewhatI'mtalkingabout.That'sright.Ifyourcellmembranesarenotkeepingoutthebadstuffandnotlettinginthegoodstuff,theenergybatteries,that'swhywegetsickandtired.Basically,mitochondrialdysfunctioniswhywegetsickandtired.

DaveAsprey: Infact,whenitworksreallywell,that'swhenyourbrainworks.That'sthewholepoint.Youabsolutelygetthis.Ilovechattingwithyouaboutit.Ihaveaquestion


aboutotherendothelialhealingtechniquesbecauseI'vebeentargetingmyendotheliumforalongtimebecausewhenIwas26,27Ihadsomelabworksdone.Iusedtoweigh300poundsandIwasexercisingandIwaseatingalowfat,highcarb,minimumcaloriediet,allthatcrapthatdoesn'tworkandlotsofjobstressandrelationshipstressandallthat.

Ihadaveryhighriskofstrokeandheartattack.Ihadhighfibrinogen.Mybloodwouldclotcompletelywithin10secondswhenitwastakenoutofthebodyandtheywereworried.Frankly,tellingmethatIwasgoingtodie,likeIwasoldbeforeIwas30,wasreallygoodbecauseitmademegotoanantiaginggroupandIlearnedalot.Istartedlookingatmyendothelialsystemthereandoneofthethingsbackthen,thisis10plusyearsago,thathadgoodevidenceforit,wassomethingcalledexercisewithoxygentherapy.Isthissomethingyou'veeveryplayedwith?

Dr.BillSears: Ihaven't,Dave,butitmakessense.Itreallymakessense.Whatyoumentionedaboutfibrinogenandclotting,thisisinterestingstory.Thisishowitwasalldiscoveredwhythere's...See,whatyoudiscoveredisyouhadhighlevelsofstickystuffinyourblood,tomakeitsimple,stickyfibrinogens,aclotting...Fibrinogen'slikeanet,likeafishnet.Itcollectsallthestuffandclogsyourarteriesifit'stoohigh.Youwantsomeofitsoyoudon'tbleed,butnottoomuch.

Iwasfishingwithadoctor,JornDyerberg,overinNorwayabout10yearsago.Hetoldmethestoryhowtheydiscoveredthebloodthinningeffectofsalmonandfishoil.Thisiswaybackwhenthelowfatdietcameoutandallthatlowfatcraze.Hesaid,"Somethingdoesn'tmakesensehere.Eskimoshavethehighestfatdietintheworld,butthelowestincidenceofheartdisease.Hmm."Hehopsonaplane,goesfromNorwaytoGreenland,anddrawsbloodfromtheEskimos.HefoundthattheEskimobloodclottedhalfasfastasthesamebloodsamplesfromEuropeansandAmericans.Thatwasaahadiscoverythatfishoil,fat,actuallythinsthebloodandlowerstheleveloftheclottingfactors.That'swhyEskimosdon'tgetheartdisease.

DaveAsprey: It'salsowhyEskimosgetmorenosebleedsthanaverage.

Dr.BillSears: We'vegotsomeconnectionhere.Ithinkit'scalledmirrorneurons.

DaveAsprey: Oh,thereyougo.Exactly.

Dr.BillSears: BecauseIaskedJorn,"Now,wasthereanyproblemyousaw?"Hesaid,"Well,it'skindofanuisance.Theyhavealotofnosebleeds."Ithoughtitwasduetothelowhumidityintheigloos,butno,you'reright.Thesolesideeffectofgoodmedicine.

DaveAsprey: Growingup,Ihadatleast10nosebleedsadayandinmycase,Ilivedinabasementthathadstachybotrys,thetoxicmold.Wedidn'tknowatthetime.No


oneknewthatstuffinthe'80s.Thisisasymptomofthat.IalsohadcognitivedysfunctionandswellingandarthritissinceIwas14,alltheseotherbadthingsthatcamefromslowpoisoningmymitochondria,whichiswhatthosemoldsdo.Mitochondriaarebacteria.Moldsandbacteriaareancientenemiesandtheyfighteachother.

WhatwasreallyinterestingformethoughisIbecameawareofwhatcausesnosebleeds,sotothisday,ifIgoaroundcertainspeciesofmoldthatareinsidewater-damagedbuildings,thesmellofitoff,withinaday,God,I'mjustnosebleeding.IfItaketoomuchfishoil,evenifI'mnotexposedtomold,I'llgetthesamething,justgushingblood.Youcantitrateyourbloodbasedonhowbrightitisandhowwellitruns,whichisfascinatingtome.

Dr.BillSears: Yeah.Iseeyou'refascinatedwiththesenew,excitingtechnologyandlabtests.Actually,there'sabrandnewtestwhereyouonalittlefingerstick,adropofyourblood,youcancheckthelevelofyourOmega-3sandyourOmega-6s.

DaveAsprey: IsthatfromZRTorisitfromanothercompany?Doyouknowwhichone?

Dr.BillSears: Iknowthereabunchofthem.VitalChoicemakesone.

DaveAsprey: Ah,that'sright.IhaveonefromRandy.

Dr.BillSears: OmegaQuant.Yeah,RandyatVitalChoice.Justalittlefingerstickandyouputitonalittleenvelopeandmailitin.Itgivesyouyourfatprofileinyourblood,howmuchthelevelofOmega-3s,thelevelofOmega-6s,becauseoneofthecausesofinflammationisweareacountryofinflammationimbalance.OneofthebiggestcausesistoomuchofOmega-6sandnotenoughOmega-3s.Omega-6s,they'renecessary.They'reessentialfat,butthey'relikeaneighborhoodbully.Ifyoueattoomuchofthem,thentheyuseupalltheenzymesandtheOmega-3scan'tgetintoyourcells.Thesimplelittletest,asIsay,"We'regoingtomeasureyourOmegabalance,"andsay,"Really?"Yeah,we'regoingtomeasure.

That'showalsoIgetthevegansinmypractice...InCalifornia,lotofvegans.Isay,"Okay.Vegandiet'sextremelyhealthy.You'llprobablylivealotlonger.Allthestudiesaregood,butyoucouldhaveanOmega-3deficiencybecauseyoudon'teatfish,solet'smeasureyourbloodforyourlevelofOmega-3s."Mostofthemcomebacklowandthat'showImotivatethemtoatleasttakeanalgae-basedfishoilsupplement.MyfavoriteisVeganPlus.Vegetarianplusseafoodis,Iguess,thedietthatyouandIaremostlyon.

DaveAsprey: Itneedstobeabigplateofvegetablesandyougottoeatsomefish.Ifyoueatsomegrass-fedbeeforlamb,it'llhelpyou.Igaveatalkatthelargestrawveganconference.ThisistheDavidWolfeconferenceawhileback.Isaid,"Guys,here'sthedealwithgrass-fedghee.Ithelpstoacceleratethepolyphenolsfromthevegetables.Ifyou'reavegan,IwasarawveganforalongtimeandIendedupgettingproblemsfromit.Infact,alotofvegansdoendup,asyouknow,


developingthingsthatgowaybeyondB12deficiency.Ijustquitdoingitbecauseitdidn'tworkforme.Itturnsoutthere'senvironmentalargumentsagainstit,aswell,whereifyoudon'thaveanimalspoopingonthesoil,you'renotgoingtolikeyourveganvegetables.Sorry,guys.It'sthiswholecertainthing.Ireallystruggledwiththat,justthoughtIdon'tliketotortureanimals.That'swhyIknowtheguyswhoraisedmycowsandthingslikethat.

IgavethistalkandthenextyearIcamebacktothesameconferenceandIsaid,"Howmanyofyouareeatingghee?"Three-quartersoftheroomhadaddedgheeorbutterbackintotheirvegandietandtheyfeltbetter.Theywerewarmer.It'slikeIalwaysstrugglebecauseit'sfine.Eatinglotsofvegetablesistherightthingtodo.Caringaboutanimalwelfare,caringaboutsoil,allthatstuffisreallygood,butifyou'renotgettingsomeeggyolks,gentlycookedeggyolksandsomegrass-fedbutter,you'renotgoingtohavefunctioningcellmembranes.Thenallthatcarethatyouputintoyourfood,you'renotputtingintoyourbodyandyou'renotgoingtofunctionatthelevelyou'recapableoffunctioningasahumanbeingtryingtodotherightthing.

Dr.BillSears: AbsoluteandI'msogladyoumentionedeggsbecauseeggshavebeen,shallwesay,exoneratedfrom...Youremember?IshudderwhenIgointoarestaurantforbreakfastandIsay,"Eggwhiteomelet,please."Man,you'remissingthebestpartoftheegg.

DaveAsprey: Likegivemetheyolks.

Dr.BillSears: Youdon'tgetfatbyeatingfatagain,soanegg.Idothisinmyoffice.Isay,"Allright.Tomorrowwhenyou'rehungry,eatanegg,sayahardboiledeggoranicelycookedegg."Justeatanegg,75measlycalories,okay,ifyou'reacaloriecounter,whichI'mnot."Thennextdaywhenyou'resametime,samehunger,eatasliceofwhitebread.Yeah,samenumberofcalories.Noticeanhourlaterhowyoufeel.Fromtheegg,youstillyou'renothungry.Youfeelgood.You'rehungryandalittlebitfoggyanhourortwoafterthewhitebreadbecauseit'sjunkcarbs."Anegg,oh,Ieataneggaday.

DaveAsprey: Iactuallyrecommend,especiallyforwomeninthemorning,youwanttogetsomeprotein.Notalways.Sometimesjustfatisfine,butthetopproteintoputinBulletproofcoffeeisthegrass-fedcollagenthatImakebecausecollagenisanantiinflammatoryprotein.It'sgotpowerfulstuff.Youblendthecoffeefirst,whichcoolsdown,butyoucancracktwoeggsintoyourcoffeeandblendit.

Dr.BillSears: Oh,I'vegottotrythat.

DaveAsprey: Itdoesn'tmakechunksoranythinggross.It'snotlikeasmoothie.Itactuallyjustdisappearsandyou'relikeoh,thecoffeeiscreamylikeitwasbefore,butyoujustgotalltheegggoodnessanditwasn'tevendamagedbyfryingitorovercookingit.Youjustdrinkitanditbasicallyjustmakesthecoffeeevenmore


richinproteinandthenphospholipids,thesehealthyfats.It'skindofacoolhack.

Dr.BillSears: Doyoufeelgoodaftereatinganegg?Isitmyimagination?Ido.Ifeelterrific.

DaveAsprey: Ialwaysfeltamazingfromeggs.ThenIwentonthepseudo-EskimodietduringmyresearchfortheBulletproofDiet.Eggyolks,especially,restoredmywife'sfertility.They'resuchacorepartofbecomingstrong.WhenIwentonazerocarbdiet,likeoneservingofvegetablesadayandtonsoffatandprotein,IactuallydevelopedanallergytoeggsbecauseIcouldn'tmakethemucusliningofmygut.I'mabout70%donewithit,butIstillhaveasmallreactiontothem,soIactuallyfeelangrywhenIeateggsnow,butIusedtofeelgood.

Dr.BillSears: Actually,it'scalledmicroexposures.Ifyoustarteatingalittlebitofaneggeachday,gradually,yourimmunesystemwillsayokay,welcomebackegg.Actually,alittlesecret.Beforealecture,asyouandIknow,lectureswearyouout.

DaveAsprey: Theydo.

Dr.BillSears: You'rementallyreallytired.Ilovedoingthem,butthey'retiring.SayIhavea7:00eveninglecture.I'llgotothemen'sroomorsomeplaceIcanhideat6:30andI'lleatahardboiledegg.That'smybeforelecturesnack.Itdoesn'tfillmeupsoI'mfeelingtoofull,butitlastsanhour,hourandahalfasaperfect...Ijustloveeggsforasnack.

DaveAsprey: Allright.I'vegottosendyousomethingelse.I'mgoingtosendyoutheBulletproofcollagenbars.ThesehavethatBrainOctaneoilinthem.Theyhavetwogramsofcarbsthatcomefromthecashews,therawcashewsthey'remadewith.

Dr.BillSears: Okay.

DaveAsprey: ThisiswhatIdonowpartlybecauseIdevelopedmyeggsensitivitythatI'mstillhacking,butalso,theoilinitraisesyourketonelevels,soyougetketonestofeedtheneuronswhileyou'relecturing.Forme,that'sbeenabigthing,sowe'llsendyousomeofthesejustbecauseasaportablefood,sometimesyoucan'tgetahardboiledeggorit'snotorganicandwhatever.It'schangedmytravelprettyradically,soit'dbemypleasuretosendyousome.

Dr.BillSears: That'sgoodbecausesee,thosearethefatsthatthebrainlovesbecausetheycanusethemrealfast.You'reprobablyafanofoliveoil,too?

DaveAsprey: Absolutely.Right.

Dr.BillSears: Ilovemy...Infact,youtalkedaboutsaladsearlier.Here'smylittletrick,littlefavorite.Ihaveasaladeveryday,theeveningusually,buttwiceaweekImakeahotsalad.Ijustmakethesamesalad,bigsalad,andIputitinasteamerfortwo


minutes.ThenItakeitoutandIdrizzletablespoonofoliveoilonit.ThenIputturmericandblackpepperonit,turmericandblackpepper.Turmeric'syourtopantiinflammatoryspiceandyoupairitwithblackpepperanditincreasestheabsorption.That'smyhotsaladandIeatitwithchopsticks.That'sourbiggestweightmanagementtoolthatweuseinourmedicalpracticeiswesay,"Nofork.Useachopstick,"especiallyforthesebigguyswhoaregorgers.Itelltheirwives,Isay,"Hidealltheforks.Makethemuseachopstick.Itwillslowhimdown."

IactuallythoughtofthatwhenIwasgivingatalkoverinChinacoupleyearsago.IwasinvitedbytheChinesegovernmenttogiveatalk.Isaid,"Why?"Theysaid,"BecausetheChineseareeatinglikeAmericansandthey'regettingsicklikeAmericans,sopleasecomeoverandtalkaboutit."Attheendofthetalk,oneoftheChinesedoctorssaid,"Dr.Sears,whydoAmericanseatsomuchsofast?"Isaid,"Bingo.Youpinpointedourproblem."Isaid,"IthinkI'lltrytomakealawagainstforksandmakeeverybodyusechopsticks."Iwaskidding,butIthoughtthat'snotabadidea.Youlistenersmighttrythat.Putawaythefork.Useachopstick.You'llenjoyeachbite.Wecallitchew,chewtimestwo.

We'redoingalittlebookonthemicrobiome,too,thegutbugs.Ihavealittlepictureinmyofficeshowingthekidsthegutbugs,themicrobiome.Ihavealittlesaying,thebetteryouchew,thebetteryoupoobecausethekidsarecominginwithconstipationallthetime.OnlywayIcangetthemtochewlongerinsteadofgorgingtheirfoodisbygoingdowntotheirlevelandsaying,"Thebetteryouchew,thebetteryoupoo."

DaveAsprey: Ilovethat.We'recomingupontheendoftheinterviewandthere'saquestionthatI'mreallyeagertohearyouranswerto.ThisissomethingI'veaskedeveryguestontheshow.Ifsomeonecametoyoutomorrowandtheysaid,"Allright,Dr.BillSears.IwanttoperformbetterateverythingIdothroughoutmyday,throughoutmylife.WhatarethethreemostimportantthingsthatIneedtoknow?"Whatwouldyouofferthem?

Dr.BillSears: Eatrealfoods,meditatemore,agitateless,movemore,sitless.Thosearemythree.

DaveAsprey: Iloveit.Thankyousomuchforafascinating,far-ranging,far-reachinginterview,quitealotoffun.Peoplecanfindoutmoreaboutyoubylookingatyournewbook,whichiscalled...

Dr.BillSears: TheInflammationSolutionisournewest.ThenwehaveanewonecomingoutinafewmonthscalledTransformFive,buttheycanlearnallabout...Wehaveourwebsiteaskdrsears.comorourWellnessInstitute,thedrsearswellnessinstitute.org.

DaveAsprey: Okay.


Dr.BillSears: Dave,it'sbeenarealpleasure.Oneofthereasonsthatwedoallthesebookwritingsandeverything,Icallitthehelper'shigh.IthinkifyouandI,fromwhatwehadtosaytoday,canchangethelivesofmaybeafewhundredpeopleouttherewholivehappierandlonger,thanwegotobedtonightwiththatextradoseofhelper'shigh.

DaveAsprey: Yeah,verywellsaid.That'swhyIstartedtheshow.It'swhyIstartedthiswholecompanyandit'swhyyoudowhatyoudoveryobviously.

Dr.BillSears: Yes.

DaveAsprey: Thanksforallyourhelping.Thanksforyourwork.I'mcertainlyfamiliarwithit.EveninmyBetterBabybook,I'msureIreadsomeofyourthingsandlearnedfromthem,soyou'vemadeadifferenceonliterallymillionsofpeople,sothankyouforbeingonBulletproofRadio.

Dr.BillSears: Thankyou,Dave.