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The Rockhounder November 2000
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ROCKHOUNDER From the desk of THE PREZ:
Greetings WGMSers,
C ongratulations on an excellent show! On Saturday, we were short
handed, but we had enough volunteers to fill all the positions. When the
doors opened at 10 AM, the crowds came and we were busy for most of the
weekend. It is likely that the reason for the large attendance was a front-page
article in the Whittier Newspaper just before the show. It featured the fine opal carvings of Vince Jarrell, a guest demonstrator at our shows. This
publicity was arranged by Vern Cliffe. One innovative idea, suggested by
Sylvia Cliffe, was handing out coupons for a 5-cent cup of coffee to get peo-
ple into the other room. Jerry Turner printed up the coupons and Jack
Zywocienski handed them out at the door. At least 150 people turned in the
coupons at the kitchen. Sunday, more members arrived to share the load.
Thank you all for your wonderful contributions of time and effort. Thanks
also to those who contributed to our very successful donation awards. A spe-
cial thanks to George Cyrog for his contribution of our MAIN PRIZES, the
opal and gold rings.
While most of you were probably trying to stay out of the rain, the kids and I
went out on our first field trip of the season, the annual Club Claim outing to
the WGMS honey onyx mine. After the long, hot summer, it was good to be
out enjoying Ma Nature again. The weather was excellent, not too cold or
windy. We had several guests and members attend and rock was collected.
The Saturday potluck and subsequent campfire were sublime.
The October Meeting was held at the Whittier Masonic Lodge and was well
attended. Our speaker was Dave Burton, owner of Lapidary International in
Buena Park. He spoke about his love of opals, his adventures, and misadven-
tures in collecting and purchasing opal, and owning an opal mine in Austral-
ia. Dave’s stories were funny, informational at times and very entertaining.
If you get an opportunity to hear Mr. Burton speak, I highly recommend it.
The November meeting will be in the usual place (Sorenson Park) and on the
usual night and time (Thursday, November 16 at 7:30 PM).
JValle
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Proposed Slate of Year 2001 Officers
President: Jay Valle
1st Vice-President: Jack Zywocienski
2nd Vice-President: Kathy Turner
Treasurer: Dottie Jacobs
Secretary: Marcia Goetz
Federation Director: Bill Burns
Directors: Les Roy, Jerry Turner, Art Ragazzi
This is our list of proposed officers for 2001. We will be voting
at the November meeting.
Joe Goetz, Nominating Committee Chairman
Displays for November
D isplays will be Christmas gifts for Rockhounds. Bring something hobby
related you have received, made or are in the process of making for
Christmas or other time gift. Give to others ideas of things they can do for
family and friends. Also bring some of the material you’ve collected on
recent or past field trips or anything you so desire.
Sylvia Cliffe
November 16th Regular Meeting
T hursday, November 16, we will be back at Sorenson Park at 7:30 PM.
Jack will have a fine program lined up for us and then we will vote to
accept, or not, the proposed Slate of Officers for 2001.
Show Displays
M y special thank you to all who put displays in our WGMS Show. We
had 38 lovely displays, a wonderful variety of our lapidary arts, beau-
tiful gems from our artists and craftsmen. Our Opal display on the stage was
not only beautiful but very educational with all the many types and unusual
stones.
Ready for next year? Be thinking about it. My sincere thanks to all who ex-
hibited.
Sylvia
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October Door Prize Winners
MAIN PRIZE: Donated By Won By
CFMS 2000 Show T-shirt Bill & Izzy Burns Jack Zywocienski
ADDITIONAL PRIZES:
Prize Donated by Won By
Blue-ice Cooler ????? Jerry Turner
Folding Shovel/pick Vicki Sundgren Jerry Turner
Rock Pick Vicki Sundgren Jay Valle
Nu Therapy Back Support The Cliffes Jack Zywocienski
35 mm Camera ????? Guest
EXTRA PRIZE – MYSTERY ITEM:
Music Box, Won by Guest
Vern Cliffe
November Door Prizes
Two Main Prizes
Musical Streetcar (Donated by Joe & Marcia Goetz)
Aventurine rough (Donated by Jerry & Kathy Turner)
Other Prizes
Rhodonite Rough (Donated by ????)
“Rocks and Minerals” Paperback (Donated by Joe & Marcia Goetz)
Utility Knife (Donated by Jack Zywocienski)
Insulated Foam Drink Holders (Donated by ????)
***Extra prize*** ????? Mystery Item ?????
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November Schedule of Events
November 6: Board Meeting at Jerry & Kathy Turner’s Whittier
house at 7 PM.
November 7: VOTE! Whatever your political belief, it is a privilege
and your civic duty. The choices we make here will effect
how we enjoy our hobby for the next 4 years. Please go
out and vote.
November 16: Regular WGMS Meeting at the Sorenson Park at 7:30.
November 28-29: Field trip to Shoshone/Tecopa (see article on page 11). Come out and enjoy an excellent collecting adventure!
October Meeting Notes...
I f you weren't at the October Regular Meeting, you missed a really inter-
esting speaker. Mr. Dave Burton, owner of Lapidary International, spoke
to us about his experiences as an opal buyer, collector and mine owner. He
described his opal-buying visits to Australia and explained some of the prob-
lems in dealing with the "national pastime". The "national pastime", as he
explained it, is where the Australians you deal with will try to foist off low-
grade opal or even non-opal as top-grade stones. The game is to get you, the
buyer, to pay them large amounts of money for junk. They do it to the tour-
ists and to each other. Apparently, thievery is a normal way of life in the opal
fields. One group of predators are the "RATTERS." These individuals are the
modern version of the old-west claim jumper. When a miner makes an opal
strike, word gets out and he will be visited some dark night by one or more
ratters. They will sneak into his mine and clean out the opal, all in just a few
hours. It is dangerous work because if the miner catches them while they are
still in the mine, he may prepare a gasoline bomb and drop it down the shaft,
consuming all of the oxygen. The remains are then buried in an abandoned
tunnel and never seen again.
Dave told the story about an ex-ratter who came to own an opal mine. One
day he made an opal strike worth several million dollars. He placed a steel
cargo container over the main entrance to the mine and hired a armed guard
to help him protect his lucky strike. Word of his good fortune got out almost
at once, and one night he was visited by a group of armed men intent on tak-
ing his precious lode. An all-night gunfight ensued. He managed to last until
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morning at which time the "authorities" chose to show up (I guess they don't
work the night shift). The ratters fled and he was able to safely remove the
rest of the opal.
Mr. Burton decided to do a bit of prospecting on his own and finally selected
a location based on the results of a dowsing rod. A friend of his was into
dowsing, and since opal contains water, they reasoned that they should be
able to locate a seam by this method. Hiking back and forth across the prop-
erty, they discovered a spot where the rods crossed each and every time they
came to it. Here, they decided is where the opal must be. Dave paid for a
shaft driller to come out with his machine and bore a tunnel vertically down
next to the predicted location. As they tunneled down into the opal-bearing
layer, the drill began to bring up opal. They had hit an opal seam dead on, an
extremely rare occurrence. It turned out that the opal seam was only worth a
few hundred dollars, definitely not the motherlode. Since Dave had to pay the
driller several thousand dollars for his labor, it wasn't a paying prospect. He
was thrilled anyway.
Dave brought a number of photographs and cut stones from his own collec-
tion and entertained us with his stories and experiences.
The business part of the evening went quickly, the main event being the vote
to accept the proposed slate of officers for 2001. Kathy Piechota handed out
Donation Awards to the several winners who came to our meeting and
claimed their prizes. Refreshments were provided by The Ragazzis and the
Turners. Thanks guys!
JValle
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Whittier Club Claim Field Trip
October 28th and 29th
T he weatherman wasn’t too cooperative in his reports of the weather
over the planned weekend, however it didn’t deter those persons who
had planned on the trip. A total of 27 members and guests came out for one
or both days of the field trip. The majority of attendees were from the Whit-
tier and Pasadena Clubs.
For those who don’t know, the owner of the claims all around the Whittier
claim, has installed a locked gate to prevent unauthorized individuals from
dumping their trash on his property. He issued keys to the Whittier club for
gaining access to the club claim when necessary. He also arranges to lock the
gate each night, so it’s necessary for someone to drive down to the gate and
unlock it each morning so morning arrivals can get in. The Whittier club
owes member Sandy Fender a great big “Thank You” for unlocking the
gate early on Saturday and Sunday mornings for arriving field trippers.
On Saturday morning two “scouting” vehicles headed out to explore several
areas that might be locations to be visited if time allowed on this or a later
field trip. The main group headed out to the red agate area where everyone
picked up some nice specimens. Then a quick stop at camp to pick up some
food items for lunch later on in the trip. Mule canyon was the destination and
after travelling through the colorful canyon we ended up near “Tin Can Al-
ley” for lunch. During lunch break, the “scouting group” drove by, having
picked up Pasadena member Sue Hickman along the way. From that spot
our group walked 150 yards up a nearby canyon to collect what we call
“Algae Agate”. It is a dense agate with small tightly grouped markings
(algae?) in various colors ranging from brown through reds, yellows and
blue. Once again, there was enough material that everyone found what he or
she wanted.
The next and final area visited was the rootlet area on top of a small hill.
Though the area has been dug through many times, there was enough materi-
al collected to make sure no one got “skunked". It was all downhill from
there to the Mineola General Store by the Mineola off-ramp where ice cream
cones are only 95 cents each (that’s with ice cream in them!).
“Relaxation Hour” was from 4:00 to 5:00 PM at which time potluck was en-
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joyed. As usual, there was more than enough great food to satisfy everyone.
The weather had been sunny all day with a slight wind, which necessitated
eating dinner in the lee side of the Cliffe’s motorhome. As darkness was ap-
proaching, the “day trippers” decided to head for home, which thinned out
the number of those remaining.
After dinner a large bonfire was built and plans were laid for the next days
field trip. Ed Imlay and Dave Kelty had located an area that day that had
palm roots in agate and Ed willingly supplied directions to us for the next
mornings trip.
Most every one had turned their clocks back the previous evening for the
next morning and everyone gathered around in a group prior to leaving for
the palm root area. Unfortunately, not everyone had been at the campfire the
previous evening, and there wasn’t a general discussion (that was our fault as
field trip leaders) as to where the field trip was going that Sunday morning.
As, it turned out one group went to the agate area and another group went to
the settling ponds where crystals had precipitated out of the wet Borax tail-
ings.
Sylvia and I left the agate collecting group early as we had planned on leav-
ing camp by 11 AM that morning in order to attend the Gem Carvers month-
ly meeting in Ontario. The agate group afterwards reported that they stopped
by the settling ponds and collected crystals on the way back to camp.
We were only too happy to fill in for Joe & Marcia Goetz, regular field trip
leaders. Marcia experienced mdical problems on their way out and returned
home for a visit to the doctor. We give her our very best wishes for a quick
solution to her problem.
To recap the weekend: As assistant field trip leaders, we felt that it was a
very successful trip. Twenty-seven persons attended, of which there were
several visitors who attended the show and several club members who at-
tended for the first time. The weather really couldn’t have been better, espe-
cially with initial early reports about the possibility of rain over the weekend.
Vern & Sylvia Cliffe
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November Fieldtrip
Shoshone / Tecopa
November 23-25, 2000
W OULD YOU LIKE TO GO TO A PLACE WHERE THERE’S A NIP
IN THE AIR? WHERE TREES WEAR THE COLOR CLOAK OF
FALL? A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN STAND IN THE SAME EXACT SPOT
THAT AN "ARGONAUT" HAD ONCE STOOD WHILE SEEKING A PLACE
TO GO PROSPECTING MORE THAN A HUNDRED YEARS AGO?
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CHECK OUT THE TAILINGS FROM A LONG
FORGOTTEN, ABANDONED MINE?
If your answer to any of these questions is YES, then this is your chance.
Yep, this coming Thanksgiving Holiday Weekend we’ll be going to such a
place. It may be the only trees will be in the campgrounds, but the area will
have a stark beauty that only the desert can have. We’ll go to places seldomly
visited, some perhaps for more than fifty years. With time and luck we may
find turquoise, amethyst, other gemstones i.e. agates and some types of met-
al. Certainly we’ll find memories and laughter while sharing meals in the
company of friends.
To get to the area, head east on Interstate 15 toward Lost Wages Nevada. Get
off at the southern Baker offramp. Go to the middle of town (don’t sneeze)
turn left at the sign pointing the way to SHOSHONE and Death Valley Nat.
Park. We will be staying in the Shoshone Campground. Look for the sign at
the campground so you can find us.
More details and maybe a map will be available at the WGMS meeting on
November 16.
Somewhere around Joe Goetz
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Field Trip Report
Labor Day Weekend Saturday Museum Trip
I t was a great day, mild and not too warm. We started off at the San Ber-
nardino County Museum in Redlands. Their exhibits range from gems and
minerals to fossils, birds and their eggs, to desert animals and mammals from
the lower forty-eight states to the polar bears, reindeer, sheep and moose of
Alaska. In addition, the worlds of man-made objects were displayed, all the
way from the 1700 and 1800’s to the present day modes of transportation.
Lunch was enjoyed at one of the cafeteria style restaurants prior to arriving at
the World of Natural History Museum located on the campus of the La Sierra
University in Riverside.
We apparently picked the right day for our visit. The director, Dr. William
(Bill) Allen, and the curator, Dr. Virchel Wood, showed up to check on some
items, we guess. Vern had spoken by phone a couple of times previously to
Dr. Allen. Dr. Wood asked if our friends and we were interested in seeing
“behind-the-scenes” and our answer was “Yes”. So, our small group was
given a personally guided tour through the “archives”, where museum per-
sonnel prepare rocks, minerals, fossils and animals for preservation and dis-
play. Turned out to be the end of a great day, just like the icing on a cake!
Vern & Sylvia Cliffe
Average Wages -- Tombstone, Arizona - 1880s
A freelance hard-rock miner made $9.50 per tool.
A miner who worked above ground earned $3.50 a day.
A miner who worked below ground earned $4 a day.
A soldier's wages were $13 a month.
A carpenter made $6 a day.
A blacksmith made $6 a day.
A mason made $6 a day.
An engineer made $6 a day.
A laborer made $3 a day.
A cook earned $50 to $75 per month.
A cowboy made $30 a month.
Original source unknown, via The Pegmatite 09/00
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WGMS Y2K Show Roundup
T he Whittier Gem & Mineral Society’s Year 2000 Show was successful-
ly staged the weekend of October 21 and 22. It was extremely well at-
tended, in part due to the excellent publicity arranged by Vern Cliffe, and the
new banner which hung from the Masonic Lodge for a couple of weeks lead-
ing up to the show.
This was a year of good ideas. Sylvia had an idea to help us bring visitors
from the display room into the back room area. She proposed that guests be
given a coupon as they entered the building for a 5¢ cup of coffee. Jerry
Turner designed and printed out a quantity of business cards with the nickel
cup of coffee offer on them, and
Jack Zywocienski, our main man
at the main entrance handed them
out. It was a complete success!
Over 150 people used the coupons
to purchase coffee. The kitchen
did great business, as did our deal-
ers.
We had large crowds from the
moment we opened for business.
Though shorthanded that first day,
everyone picked up the slack and
carried us through with flying col-
ors. Jack handled the guests with enthusiasm as they entered the door. Kathy Piechota, assisted by Erin Valle
sold hundreds of Donation Award Tickets. Erin also took care of the kids
scavenger hunt which was under-utilized this year (some years we get lots of
kids, other years we don’t. This was a don’t year.) Marcia Goetz hand se-
lected each door prize before the
drawings and as usual, did a won-
derful job.
We had a battery of volunteers at
the sales table, led by our own Joe
Goetz. Bill Siefert, Mike
Maneth, and John Johnson were
on hand most of the show. At the
demonstration table, Les Roy
(cabbing), Dottie Jacobs and her
metal chasing, Jay Valle filled in
a little bit, and Ginger Ragazzi
who demonstrated cabbing all day
Bill Burns filling in for Jack Zywocienski at the
hospitality table.
Kathy Piechota and Erin Valle look like they’re
playing poker with the Donation Award Tickets!
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Sunday. Guest demonstrators were
Vince Jarrell, Sammy Floridia,
Bill Piworski and Virginia Pace, all Gem Carvers (Virginia is also a
WGMS Member) and Jason
Badgley who had a long drive to
be there as he now lives in Ventu-
ra.
The kitchen was ably run by
Kathy Turner, Ruth Jarrell,
Mary Rose Merton and Flo
Zywocienski. David Martinez worked at the cashier’s table most
of the show.
Jay and Jason Valle, Art Ragazzi, Bill Burns, Vern and Sylvia Cliffe, and Jerry Turner moved around and filled in wherever needed to give our
workers a break.
Angie Harwood ably ran the Spinning Wheel, assisted on Sunday by Mary
Maneth. When she wasn’t demonstrating, Dottie Jacobs collected and
deposited the money during the show. This was her first year to do this, and
though I think she was a bit overwhelmed at times, she did a fine job. Sandie
Fender came out Friday during setup and prepared a
delightful spaghetti feast for the
workers and dealers. She also was responsible for the very tasty chili
which was sold at the kitchen.
Sandie and Tony Fender, along
with Bill and Isabelle Burns were
at a meeting out at Barstow on
Saturday representing us to the
BLM and the Desert Advisory
Council. Sandie, Tony and Bill
were on hand Sunday to give a
hand. Special thanks to Ernie
Gaytan who helps us out every
year with the setup and teardown.
I want to again thank all of you who came out to support the WGMS Gem
Show. Your support with donations and time are what keeps our club alive.
JValle
Les Roy and Virginia Pace “cheesing it up” for the
camera at the demonstration table.
Vern Cliffe and Art Ragazzi manning the literature
table in the Main Lobby
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Reducing Stress is Critical for Good Health By Chuck McKie, CFMS Safety 2000
M ost people recognize that if you reduce the amount of stress in your
life, you will be healthier. But not too many people realize how truly
important stress management is for chronically ill patients. HIV/AIDS RE-
SEARCH: Recently studies in Africa have shown how this relates to people
who are chronically ill with HIV. The report stated that they used 4,000 HIV/
AIDS patients who were tracked over a ten year period. None of these pa-
tients were receiving any medication what so ever for their HIV/AIDS infec-
tion. Of these patients, 2,000 were given a placebo (a sugar pill) and the other
2,000 were taught stress reduction techniques and given basic nutritional --
diet information. Of the 2,000 patients who received the placebo, 90% had died. Of the 2,000 patients who were given the stress reduction classes and
the nutritional information only 20% had died.
Now granted one could make the argument that the first group, who got the
placebo, had ingested too much sugar on a daily basis. But that does not fully
explain why those who had used the stress reduction ideas had done so well.
HEART PATIENTS: When scientists study cardiac patients who were taught
meditation and stress relieving methods, they had almost 100% respond.
Their heart medication was reduced, they had far less incidences of further
cardiac attacks and were found to be in better health than their counterparts
who were only given the standard heart medicines. Most of us have seen the
statistics of married men and women who live longer and are considered
healthier because they have someone to support them during a serious illness.
There are many stories about how people who either have a spouse or loving
pet can help them reduce their stress levels. Well, in some cases, spouses
seem to ADD to the stress level! I guess it depends on the spouse!
REDUCING STRESS: Now there are several ways to reduce stress if you
have chronic Hepatitis B or Hepatitis C. Whether or not you are currently
going through REBETRON or Interferon therapy, your Hepatitis Virus will
replicate faster and be harder to keep under control if you don't get a handle
on your stress. Massage therapy is always a great muscle and tension reliev-
er. Careful attention needs to be paid to the hepatitis infected patient because
they can bruise easily. Massage products that use heat should be avoided.
Hepatitis patients can have very sensitive skin and can burn more easily, as
well as they can have topical rashes that might become infected. Getting reg-
ular exercise, even if it's just a short walk around the block, is very important
to help release the correct endorphins to relieve stress. Even better would be
a walk on the beach, around a lake or in a park with a garden. Many people
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swim for a low impact workout. Whatever you choose to do for exercise;
make sure you don't over do it! And for heaven sakes, consult a doctor before
starting any major exercise routine. Eliminate the amount of time you spend
with difficult people, noisy places or other incidences that cause you stress.
Many people who are on Combo therapy try to limit the time they spend on
their job, taking time off when possible or going on Disability.
The number one reason people become stressed is because of money issues.
Try and limit your spending, stick to a budget and if possible, have someone
assist you paying bills while on combo therapy. Keeping the books straight
while battling brain fog can be an impossible task. If possible, try to use auto-
matic debits for paying the regular bills. Don't take on any new projects or
assignments while on combination therapy.
Now is not the time to redecorate, remodel or move! You can reduce the
stress that surrounds the subject of food preparation by eating out more often.
It might cost more money to use restaurants or fast food places, but for peo-
ple with children or spouse who normally depend on the Hepatitis patient for
meals, it can be much easier to deal with, thus relieving the stress. Just try
and eat healthy, it can be done, but takes more effort to choose non fried
foods.
Laughter is the best medicine. Yes, I know this sounds too simple to be effec-
tive, but it's true! Those who have studied this subject for years have discov-ered that the people who read joke books, went to comedy shows, told jokes
to friends and family, and generally found reasons to laugh out loud, had
better immune systems, healed quicker and had less chance of a relapse than
those who didn't laugh at least 4 times a week. Giggle, it's a good stress re-
liever! Eat healthy and take Vitamin and Mineral supplements. Often people
who suffer from liver dysfunction or disease can have problems absorbing or
digesting food. This can be stressful because you are not able to keep enough
critical nutrients in your body to fight off stress. Adding Vitamin C, E and all
of the B's will help your digestive system work better. Many people believe
that using milk thistle will help, some folks believe selenium is the best min-
eral and then there is the thought that these two ingredients plus an added
third, Alpha Lipoic Acid makes a triple antioxidant that helps to deal with
toxins. If your body is full of toxins, it is impossible to fight stress effective-
ly.
Go to support group meetings. This helps reduce stress because getting hu-
man contact is critical for the Hepatitis patient. Often when one goes through a chronic illness, they feel alone and isolated. But when the patient can reach
out and discover that there are other people who are going through the same
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things, it can make the patient relax. Plus it's often the case that other people
can suggest other ways to deal with common problems such as itching, nau-
sea and brain fog. Hugs are better then Drugs! This too is a simple saying
that has roots in a deeper meaning. Having people who care enough to give
the patient a hug can relieve stress in many ways. Sometimes patients have
experienced prejudice behaviors from people who learn about their plight.
Many people who are ignorant of the facts can be leery of touching a person with Hepatitis. Not wanting to become infected themselves, they misunder-
stand and steer clear of physical contact. The importance of touch has been
studied at many universities and their findings prove that it's just as important
as breathing clean air!
Take time for yourself! Just the act of doing nothing or meditating in a quiet
room, can regenerate a patients immune system. Relaxing listening to music
can be soothing to the soul. Read a book and take your time. Do what ever
you can to make stress reduction a priority at least 4 times a week. Ideally
you need a few quiet moments to yourself every day. There are those who
make time in the morning, some take longer lunches in which they can take a
nap or meditate. Then there are those who relax before bed, this can reduce
the incidence of insomnia and restlessness. Do what's right for you. Take
charge of your stress!
This is from a Liver disease site on the internet I found when I was searching
for info on Hepatitis B. I think if you adept the info on stress management it shouldn't hurt you. But maybe you should check with your doctor, which I'm
not.
CFMS Newsletter 11/00
For Sale…
Ultra Tec Model V2 Faceting Machine
4 Wheels (3 Diamond Bond & 1 Lucite Lap)
Transfer Jig
Dops
Manual
Some Misc. Supplies
$300.00
Phil Fontana
(562) 948-4621
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The Importance of Water
By Chuck McKie, CFMS Safety Chairman 2000
Y es, I know, everybody and their uncle is telling you that you should be
consuming more water everyday. Well, I'm jumping on that band wag-
on too! With the advent of bottled water becoming the craze over 15 years
ago, it has become perfectly acceptable to run around town with one's
"personal bottle" in tow. There are tons of studies that will show you that
your average adult weighing in at under 200 lbs. should be consuming at
least 1 gallon a day of life giving, life sustaining water. Adding at least a cup
for each additional 10 lbs. Now most of us can handle that. And not only will
that amount flush out the toxins our bodies love to hang on to, but it will also
keep us hydrated which is a huge problem for liver compromised patients.
Most people will agree that drinking that much fluid in the form of plain wa-
ter is boring. So the experts have altered their recommendation, stating that
any clear fluid is acceptable. Sports drinks like Gatorade are acceptable in
small doses. But their sodium content may be a little high for exclusive use.
Other drinks such as coffee or, carbonate and caffeine laced sodas are dis-
couraged because the effect can have the opposite of what the patient is try-
ing to accomplish. Sodas can cause head aches and coffee can increase diar-
rhea. For patients that are on any type of therapy, whether it be mono or com-
bination, it is vital that they consume as much water as they can handle. The
Interferon works best if it is flowing through out the body by way of hydra-
tion. It assists the toxic chemicals out of the body instead of holding on to
them and making the patient feel bad. In fact it is common for Schering-
Plough's "Be in Charge" program representative to suggest drinking 2 gallons
of fluids a day, especially for the larger patients. Over 25 years ago the say-
ing "Don't leave home without" used to refer to the American Express card,
now it's the motto of all Hepatitis patients and their water containers.
REMEMBER. I'm not the Doctor, I just do the Chuckmckiedoctoring until
the Doctor comes. So maybe you'll check with YOUR doctor before you take
my suggestions, they're not really advice.
CFMS Newsletter 11/00
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CFMS Gem & Mineral Shows
Nov 18 - 19 PASADENA - Mineralogical Society Of Southern Califor-
nia. Pasadena Center, 300 East Green Street.
Hours: Sat. 10 - 6, Sun. 10 - 5
Nov 18 - 19 OXNARD - Oxnard Gem & Mineral Society, Oxnard Com-
munity Center, 800 Hobson Way
Hours: Sat. 9 - 5, Sun. 9 - 4
Nov 25 - 26 BARSTOW - Mojave Desert Gem & Mineral Society,
Barstow Community Center, 841 S. Barstow Road.
Hours: 10 - 5 both days
Dec 2 - 3 SAN BERNARDINO - Orange Belt Mineralogical Society,
Inc. San Bernardino Woman’s Club, 503 W. 31st Street.
Hours: Sat. 10 - 6, Sun. 10 - 5.
Vern Cliffe
Brain Food (quips from many years)
If people were not meant to have late night snacks, why did God put a
light in the refrigerator?
“What do you mean we don’t communicate? Just yesterday I faxed you a
reply to the recorded message you left on my answering machine.”
The most important trip you may take in life is meeting people halfway.
The Rev. Billy Graham tells of a time early in his career when He ar-
rived in a small town to preach a sermon. Wanting to mail a letter, he
asked a young boy where the post office was. When the boy told him,
Graham thanked him and said, ”If you’ll come to the Baptist Church this
evening, you can hear me telling everyone how to get to heaven.”
“I don’t think I’ll be there,” the boy said. “You don’t even know your
way to the post office.”
Submitted by Vern Cliffe
The Rockhounder November 2000
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Vince and Ruth Jarrell preparing to set up a showcase. An article appearing in the Whittier
Newspaper featuring Vince and his fabulous opal carvings contributed greatly to the success of
our show.