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Why do bad things happen to good people? Page 1 of 7 Why do bad things happen to good people? Good evening to all alumni members and their spouses assembled here today. Mr. Biswas has been kind enough to have introduced me to you all. Before I begin, let me tell you how I came to be here today. I know Dr Subramanian, the Jt Director of Bharatiya Vidya Bhavan through his younger brother Mr. Gopal Krishnan. I have interacted with Mr. Krishnan for quite some time now. Shilpamandira has signed an MoU with Tata Motors regarding training and placement of our automobile technicians. It was Mr. Krishnan who made this happen. He had introduced me to Dr Subramanian. One day, about a fortnight ago, Dr Subramanian came to my office along with Mr. Biswas and asked me if I could address this gathering. Before I could say yes or no, Mr. Biswas said to me, “Maharaj, please choose a catchy topic, something that will be attractive to the alumni members and will be intellectually stimulating to them.” Well, there he actually caught me – with ‘intellectually stimulating’. I said yes, I would go to address the alumni gathering. But then, I pleaded for some time to choose the topic. I then told them about what had happened in our Vedanta Society of Northern California long ago. There was a monk there long ago called Swami Prabhavananda. He was supposed to give a lecture every Sunday in his Center. Over a period of time he found that the number of people attending his weekly lectures started dwindling. He wished to increase the attendance in his lectures. So he came up with an ingenuous plan. He gave an advertisement in the local papers saying “This Sunday, Swami Prabhavananda will speak on ‘ How to make moneyat such and such address.” The hall was overflowing, with people having no place even to stand; so many had turned up. He slowly walked up to the rostrum and told them, “Well, I don’t know how to make money. But, if I hadn’t advertised like this, so many of you wouldn’t have come here. Now that you have all come here, I will tell you about Vedanta which I do know. Please listen.” We had a good laugh about it. Today’s evening also is something of the same sort, I am afraid! Anyway, I had asked for some time to decide on the topic. Then I went about my day’s work in Shilpamandira. I had a series of meetings with various departments that day. One of my lecturers came to me with a personal problem. And in the course of our discussion, he asked me this question why do bad things happen to good people? That was when I immediately messaged both Dr Subramanian and Mr. Biswas that this would be my topic. So much for the background; now I will inform you my plan for this evening. I will speak for so long as one of us either you or I gets bored. Then I will throw the house open for questions. Now, let me elaborate on today’s topic of my lecture. While introducing me, Mr. Biswas said that I was an Engineer before I became a monk. I in fact studied in the same college in Bangalore as Mr. Biswass son studied in. Just as the introduction got over, Mr. Amitava Chakravarti here pointed out that my becoming a monk was indeed a good thing for me, but must have certainly been a bad thing for my parents! I will come to that point a little later in my lecture. That is the whole problem with this question. Good and bad certainly seem to be vague and naïve categorizations.

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    Why do bad things happen to good people?

    Good evening to all alumni members and their spouses assembled here today.

    Mr. Biswas has been kind enough to have introduced me to you all. Before I begin, let me tell you

    how I came to be here today.

    I know Dr Subramanian, the Jt Director of Bharatiya Vidya Bhavan through his younger brother

    Mr. Gopal Krishnan. I have interacted with Mr. Krishnan for quite some time now. Shilpamandira has

    signed an MoU with Tata Motors regarding training and placement of our automobile technicians. It was

    Mr. Krishnan who made this happen. He had introduced me to Dr Subramanian. One day, about a

    fortnight ago, Dr Subramanian came to my office along with Mr. Biswas and asked me if I could address

    this gathering. Before I could say yes or no, Mr. Biswas said to me, Maharaj, please choose a catchy

    topic, something that will be attractive to the alumni members and will be intellectually stimulating to

    them. Well, there he actually caught me with intellectually stimulating. I said yes, I would go to

    address the alumni gathering. But then, I pleaded for some time to choose the topic. I then told them about

    what had happened in our Vedanta Society of Northern California long ago. There was a monk there long

    ago called Swami Prabhavananda. He was supposed to give a lecture every Sunday in his Center. Over a

    period of time he found that the number of people attending his weekly lectures started dwindling. He

    wished to increase the attendance in his lectures. So he came up with an ingenuous plan. He gave an

    advertisement in the local papers saying This Sunday, Swami Prabhavananda will speak on How to

    make money at such and such address. The hall was overflowing, with people having no place even to

    stand; so many had turned up. He slowly walked up to the rostrum and told them, Well, I dont know

    how to make money. But, if I hadnt advertised like this, so many of you wouldnt have come here. Now

    that you have all come here, I will tell you about Vedanta which I do know. Please listen. We had a good

    laugh about it. Todays evening also is something of the same sort, I am afraid! Anyway, I had asked for

    some time to decide on the topic. Then I went about my days work in Shilpamandira. I had a series of

    meetings with various departments that day. One of my lecturers came to me with a personal problem.

    And in the course of our discussion, he asked me this question why do bad things happen to good

    people? That was when I immediately messaged both Dr Subramanian and Mr. Biswas that this would be

    my topic.

    So much for the background; now I will inform you my plan for this evening. I will speak for so

    long as one of us either you or I gets bored. Then I will throw the house open for questions. Now, let

    me elaborate on todays topic of my lecture.

    While introducing me, Mr. Biswas said that I was an Engineer before I became a monk. I in fact

    studied in the same college in Bangalore as Mr. Biswass son studied in. Just as the introduction got over,

    Mr. Amitava Chakravarti here pointed out that my becoming a monk was indeed a good thing for me, but

    must have certainly been a bad thing for my parents! I will come to that point a little later in my lecture.

    That is the whole problem with this question. Good and bad certainly seem to be vague and nave

    categorizations.

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    We will all agree that this is a question that we have all asked ourselves sometime or the other in

    our lives. I will point out to you some of the important points concerning this question. Then I will try to

    explain to you what Vedanta has to say on this question. You see, I am a monk of the Ramakrishna

    Mission. I represent Swami Vivekanandas ideas and they are basically Vedanta ideas, with some

    important deviations.

    I believe that all of us in this hall will agree that we all consider ourselves to be good people.

    There will be no one here who will claim to be a bad person. You know what most of us think about

    ourselves? I am a good person. I do admit that I have some weaknesses, some short-comings, but then, I

    am not a bad person at all! This is what most of us feel about ourselves. Am I not right? And as a

    corollary of this self-concept, we ask ourselves, I am a good person; how could such a bad thing happen

    to me?!

    This brings me to an important idea that seems to be pervasive among all human beings. That is

    the idea that if we are good, only good things ought to happen to us. Since I havent done anything wrong,

    how can something bad happen to me? This is the line of thinking that seems to be pervasive all over the

    world, irrespective of culture, race and religion.

    I wish to point out one important fallacy with this line of thought. I think it was George Bernard

    Shaw who once said, We are excellent advocates of our short-comings and the cruelest judges of the

    mistakes that others commit. We seem to be unable to make an unbiased judgment about our own

    actions. Hence we always judge ourselves to be correct and hence good persons. Others, on the other

    hand, seem to be committing a hell of a lot of mistakes and hence they ought to be receiving blows after

    blows for their bad actions! How correct is this judgment?

    Then there is the thing about the point of us being all good. What exactly is the basis on which we

    judge ourselves to be good? Since we never committed a bad act, we claim to be good. Not being bad

    is it necessary and sufficient condition to be categorized as good? Let me tell you a small story: A

    couple developed some trouble between themselves and their marriage was getting rocked. They

    approached a marriage counselor. The counsellor told the husband, Go home and listen to what your wife

    says. She has something to say to you about many things. Just listen to what she says. So the husband

    went back home and went on listening attentively to all that his wife had to say. A month later he came to

    the marriage counsellor. The counsellor asked him, Well, how is the situation now? The husband said,

    A little better. Then the counsellor advised, Now, go back home. This time, along with listening to all

    that she says, listen very carefully to all the things that she doesnt say! Very similar is our condition too,

    I guess. We, of course, dont commit crimes. But then, how many of us here can claim that we go out of

    our way and perform acts of real goodness? Most of us cannot claim that. And yet, we are quite hasty in

    classifying ourselves under the group good people!

    Somehow we all seem to assume that life is quite logical in its unfoldment. We assume that there

    is a linear logic governing our lives. This feeling is pervasive in all of us. But, is it really linear? Listen to

    a story. A man was once walking along a road. He saw that two policemen were walking behind him, a

    little far away. He stole a look at both of them. He suddenly felt that their faces and their animated body

    language seemed to tell him that both of them were discussing about him and that they suspected him

    about something. A fear enveloped him and he bolted. As soon as the two policemen saw that the man

    before them was running, they gave chase. He came across a huge iron gate. He jumped over it and

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    entered a graveyard. There was a freshly dug out grave. He jumped into it and hid there. But it wasnt

    long before the law enforcement officers caught him there. They asked him why he was hiding there.

    When they asked him that question, he realized that he had acted in haste and that he was never a suspect

    in the first place. He gave an answer which I appreciate a lot. He said, Officer, you have asked a simple

    question. But I assure you that I cannot give you an equally simple answer to that question. All I can

    safely tell you is this I am here because of you both, and the both of you are here because of me! So,

    within small circles of events, there does seem to be linear logic working in our lives, but when you

    consider the events of our lives in larger circles, in larger periods of time, linear logic doesnt seem to be

    operative.

    Anyway, be that as it may. This is a question that is asked by people all over the world, at all

    times and under every conceivable situation. I hold that if there is some tendency that is pervasive in

    human beings, then, it means that that tendency ought to serve some universal benefit. If it did not serve a

    universal purpose, it wouldnt be present in such a pervasive manner. Vedanta claims that this tendency

    present in us the tendency to seriously ask ourselves why do bad things happen to us? is meant to

    serve some purpose in our lives. In other words, Vedanta says that it cannot answer this question, but it

    can show you how you can put this tendency to ask this question, the capability to feel suffering, to good

    use.

    This is one characteristic feature of Vedanta. It says that just because you ask a logical question,

    there is absolutely no guarantee that a logical answer can be given. That is Vedantas stand. This is a

    question that cannot be answered satisfactorily at all. It is impossible to give a logical answer to this

    question. However, that doesnt mean Vedanta is not interested in the question. Vedanta is interested in

    this question because, it can show you a way to put the faculty that gave rise to this question to a

    wonderful use and enable us to achieve a marvelous objective for yourself.

    Semitic Religions like Christianity, Islam, Judaism, and Zoroastrianism have attempted to answer

    this question by a simplistic method. They posit two entities God and the Devil. All that is good comes

    from God. All that is evil comes from the other side!

    Vedanta doesnt accept such an approach. There is no attempt to hook moral judgments onto

    God. Vedanta does posit a God, a creator-preserver-destroyer. And everything comes from Him. Good

    comes from Him. Bad too comes from Him. Why does Vedanta say such a thing? This is because,

    categorization of people or events into two water-tight compartments of good and bad is very nave. Any

    person with sufficient maturity will understand that such compartmentalization is impossible. Let me

    explain this by telling you a story. I read this story long ago. I guess it was written by Leo Tolstoy. There

    was a man living in a Russian village. He had a strange habit of saying that everything that happened was

    for his good. His friends did not agree. They made fun of him saying that events were either good or bad

    and his outlook that everything that happened was good was stupid. One day, this mans only young son

    went hunting with his friends. During that hunt, his son broke his leg. He came back home and his

    situation was so bad that there were doubts if he would be able to walk again at all. This mans friends

    now approached him and asked him how he felt about this event. As usual, the man held that this had

    happened for his own good. They concluded that he was a fool and was incorrigible and went away. Some

    weeks later, Russia entered into a war and the Czar issued a decree that all able-bodied young men should

    join the army and fight on the battle field. Now the man ran to his friends and pointed out that while all of

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    them had to send their sons to the army, he was exempted because his only son couldnt walk yet! So,

    wasnt he right in his claim that the accident that had occurred was actually good?

    Thus, the very scheme of things in this world seems to be such that the border line between good

    and bad keeps shifting. What we considered good at one time, under one set of situations may turn out to

    be bad a little while later, under a different set of situations. When such is the actual situation, it is quite

    right that Vedanta chooses to ignore answering this question of why do bad things happen to good

    people? and instead focuses on putting the tendency to ask this question to some better use.

    Vedanta focuses on discovering something inside us that is eternal. Vedanta claims that the core

    of our being, in each one of us, is perfect, is undying, and is pure. Vedanta says that although perfection is

    so close to us, rather closer than anything else, we dont know it. And what makes us go towards it is

    suffering. Suffering opens our eyes. I agree that this statement appears harsh, cruel, even unsettling. But

    then, this whole business of dealing with the Truth is only for those with the stoutest hearts. In the

    Mahabharata, there is a prayer by Kunti, a marvelous prayer. She prays to the Lord as follows: O Lord,

    give me more and more suffering, so that I can remember you so much more.

    Look at this artifice. Suffering brings us in closer contact with the Lord. In other words, suffering

    brings us in closer contact with our inner core. Hence, it makes sense in asking for more and more

    suffering so that we can get closer to our inner core so much earlier and sooner! Western psychology

    speaks of a type of persons called Masochists. These persons also seek pain and suffering. I however

    hold that Vedanta is not masochism. The reason why a masochist seeks suffering is because he gets a

    perverse happiness in undergoing pain. A Vedantist seeks suffering so that he can move further inside

    himself towards his inner core.

    How does Vedanta expect us to go deeper within ourselves using the experiences we get in our

    life? There is a great mental block regarding spiritual unfoldment. Most of us feel that we need to lead a

    dedicated life, a life consisting of only devotional practices and meditation for spiritual growth. In no

    other way can we grow spiritually; this seems to be the popular conception. Well, Vedanta does have

    some such practices too. There is a path called Raja Yoga. It prescribes that one should lead a secluded

    life. Not engaging in any activities other than meditation and pranayama, one is expected to lead a totally

    isolated existence. There are endless rules and regulations about how & what to eat, about what to think

    and what to speak, about how much to exercise and how much to sleep and what to wear and things like

    that. If one chooses to follow such a path, of course, one has to completely forget ones social life, ones

    family and friends and become a monk. You will immediately ask me what will happen to my family?

    And my business?

    Vedanta prescribes a wonderful path called Karma Yoga for the masses. Most of the other paths

    like Bhakti Yoga and Raja Yoga are for a very special type of people. Karma Yoga is for you and me.

    What is this Karma Yoga? How does one practice it? What developments occur in us as a result of

    practicing this Yoga? I will tell you a small story to indicate these things. I will elaborate on this topic

    some other day, if we meet again. For now, I will just give you some broad indications of the actual scope

    of Karma Yoga in our daily lives.

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    Most of us think that Karma Yoga means catching some poor beggars, destitute people and

    distributing some clothes and food to them; or, running a dispensary. Indeed, that is a type of Karma

    Yoga, where we do something to someone who can never repay us; something done selflessly. But the

    main form of Karma Yoga is something else. It is practiced in the context of our daily life itself. All of us

    have to work. There is a particular mode with which we can work and reap enormous benefit from it.

    I will tell you a story that Swami Vivekananda recounted in his seminal book Karma Yoga. This

    story is taken from the Mahabharata. It concerns a Vyadha. Vyadha is a Sanskrit term for a butcher, one

    who kills animals and sells their meat for his living. The story is as follows:

    A young Sannyasi went to a forest; there he meditated, worshipped, and practiced Yoga

    for a long time. After years of hard work and practice, he was one day sitting under a tree,

    when some dry leaves fell upon his head. He looked up and saw a crow and a crane fighting on the top

    of the tree, which made him very angry. He said, "What! Dare you throw these dry leaves upon my

    head?!" As with these words he angrily glanced at them, a flash of fire went out of his head such was

    the Yogi's power and burnt the birds to ashes. He was very glad, almost overjoyed at this

    development of power he could burn the crow and the crane by a look. After a time he had to go to

    the town to beg his bread. He went, stood at a door, and said, "Mother, give me food." A voice came from

    inside the house, "Wait a little, my son." The young man thought, "You wretched woman, how dare you

    make me wait! You do not know my power yet." While he was thinking thus the voice came again:

    "Boy, don't be thinking too much of yourself. Here is neither crow nor crane." He was astonished; still

    he had to wait. At last the woman came, and he fell at her feet and said, "Mother, how did you know

    that?" She said, "My boy, I do not know your Yoga or your practices. I am a common everyday woman. I

    made you wait because my husband is ill, and I was nursing him. All my life I have struggled to do my

    duty. When I was unmarried, I did my duty to my parents; now that I am married, I do my duty to my

    husband; that is all the Yoga I practice. But by doing my duty I have become illumined; thus I could read

    your thoughts and know what you had done in the forest. If you want to know something higher than this,

    go to the market of such and such a town where you will find a Vyadha (The lowest class of people in

    India who used to live as hunters and butchers.) who will tell you something that you will be very glad to

    learn." The Sannyasi thought, "Why should I go to that town and to a Vyadha?" But after what he had

    seen, his mind opened a little, so he went. When he came near the town, he found the market and there

    saw, at a distance, a big fat Vyadha cutting meat with big knives, talking and bargaining with different

    people. The young man said, "Lord help me! Is this the man from whom I am going to learn? He is the

    incarnation of a demon, if he is anything." In the meantime this man looked up and said, "O Swami,

    did that lady send you here? Take a seat until I have done my business." The Sannyasi thought, "What

    comes to me here?" He took his seat; the man went on with his work, and after he had finished he

    took his money and said to the Sannyasi, "Come sir, come to my home." On reaching home the

    Vyadha gave him a seat, saying, "Wait here," and went into the house. He then washed his old father and

    mother, fed them, and did all he could to please them, after which he came to the Sannyasi and said,

    "Now, sir, you have come here to see me; what can I do for you?" The Sannyasi asked him a few

    questions about soul and about God, and the Vyadha gave him a lecture which forms a part of the

    Mahabharata, called the Vydha-Git. It contains one of the highest flights of the Vedanta.

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    When the Vyadha finished his teaching, the Sannyasi felt astonished. He said, "Why are you in

    that body? With such knowledge as yours why are you in a Vyadhas body, and doing such filthy, ugly

    work?" "My son," replied the Vyadha, "no duty is ugly, no duty is impure. My birth placed me in these

    circumstances and environments. In my boyhood I learnt the trade; I am unattached, and I try to do my

    duty well. I try to do my duty as a householder, and I try to do all I can to make my father and mother

    happy. I neither know your Yoga, nor have I become a Sannyasi, nor did I go out of the world into a

    forest; nevertheless, all that you have heard and seen has come to me through the unattached doing of the

    duty which belongs to my position."

    This is the path prescribed by Karma Yoga for all of us. The inner growth occurs as a result of

    intense self-introspection and self-correction when we face blows in the course of our daily life.

    If you think Kuntis prayer is strange, wait till you hear about the Bodhisattva. The Buddhists

    have something called the Bodhisattva Ideal. The Bodhisattva is a person, or rather, a state of mind, in

    which a person starts feeling that he should suffer all the pains of all beings in this world so that every

    being should be happy! Actually the Buddhists appropriated this ideal from Vedanta. The Vedanta speaks

    of an ancient King called Rantideva. This king too had his own prayer which was as follows:

    Na tvaham kaamaye raajyam, na svargam, na punarbhavam;

    Kaamaye duhkataptaanaam praaninaam aarthinaashanam.

    I do not desire for this kingdom, or for heaven, or even for another birth. What I desire is that I should suffer all the suffering of all beings that are in pain!

    Let us pause for a moment here. We began our deliberation today by asking ourselves as to why

    bad things happen to good people. In other words, why do good people suffer? Or again, in other words,

    how can good people [like ourselves] avoid suffering. And now, we find here some characters from the

    Vedanta who are apparently seeking for more and more suffering, in each case with an end in view. While

    Kunti sought more suffering so that she could remember the Lord more, King Rantideva sought suffering

    so that other beings could live happily. Just see how strange this mentality is from the mentality that we

    all possess right now.

    When I was a young boy and read such stories in our holy books, I used to feel that they were all

    fiction and that in reality people like you and I could never raise ourselves to such a standard. Then I got

    introduced to Swami Vivekananda and I am afraid I have had to change my views about this. This

    transformation is very real, very possible and in fact, such a transformation seems to be our destiny! Let

    me highlight two incidents from the life of Swami Vivekananda to explain what I mean.

    The first incident I speak about is when he was about 18 or 19 years old. His father was a rich

    man with a roaring legal practice. He hailed from a famous family right here in this city. He was very

    intelligent, highly talented and had an extremely bright future ahead of him. Exactly when everything

    seemed so right for him, his father died. His father had obviously not planned for his early death and

    hence overnight, Narendranath found himself in deep debt that he inherited from his father. He also

    inherited innumerable family legal suits and with all his talent, intellectual achievements and excellent

    family background, he was unable to get a decent job anywhere in this large town. Further, he was in such

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    a bad shape that he couldnt afford two square meals for himself and his mother and brothers and sisters.

    Yet, he continued to practice his daily devotions to the Lord. His mother observed this trait in him and

    one day chided him with this question that we began our discussion today. When his mother asked him

    that question, the young boy Narendranath was tongue-tied. He had no answer.

    The second incident I refer to is to a letter that Swami Vivekananda wrote sometime in 1901. In

    that letter he writes, I am ready to go to hell [i.e. undergo endless suffering] if I can bring even one man

    to the Light. See what a transformation in a person in a matter of just 12 or 15 years! So I got the

    conviction that such a transformation is indeed possible in this very life.

    Before I end my lecture, I will address just one more aspect of this topic. Some of you may think

    that the question would make more sense if I had asked Why do good things happen to bad people? In

    other words, it seems really horrible that bad people seem to be having a very good time, while good

    people go on suffering. Why does that happen? Frankly speaking, I dont know. But I will tell you a story.

    You all know that Bhagawan Buddha, before he arrived at the Truth, was an earnest seeker by the

    name Siddhartha Gautama. One summer day he was walking in the forest and he came upon a beautiful

    lake. It had cool, clear water and he felt like taking a bath. He slowly entered the water, had a bath, felt

    refreshed and as he was about to come out of the lake, he saw some beautiful lotus flowers in bloom at the

    far end of the lake. He went near the flowers, bent down and smelled the heavenly fragrance of the

    flowers. Then he came out of the lake and started wearing clothes. At that moment, a Yaksha, a demigod

    materialized before him. The Yaksha said, Say, young monk, how dare you enter my lake without

    obtaining my permission? The Yaksha berated Gautama for quite some time. Gautamas head was bent

    down in shame. He wanted to say that he had no idea that the lake had a caretaker, but he never got a

    chance to put in a word; the Yaksha was relentless in his scolding. In the meantime, a Kings nobleman

    rode up to the lake on horseback. He too saw the cool, clear waters on that hot summer day, tied his horse

    to a tree, tore his clothes apart and jumped into the lake. He splashed around for a long time, making the

    clear water all murky. When he had finished his sporting in water, as he was about to come out, he too

    eyed the beautiful lotus flowers in bloom. He went to the corner of the lake, roughly plucked a handful of

    flowers for his sweetheart at home, came out of the lake, wore his clothes and rode away. All this while,

    Gautama was thinking, I did nothing in comparison to what this nobleman is doing and I was berated so

    badly; perhaps the Yaksha will strike this man down dead any minute now! But, when the nobleman

    went away safely, Gautama said to the Yaksha, Well, Yaksha; I now understand you. I am a gentle

    person and hence you scolded me to your hearts content. I saw that you did nothing to that nobleman. Of

    course, how could you? He is a big, powerful man. The Yakshas reply is worthy of our meditation. The

    Yaksha said, Gautama, I scolded you because you proclaim to follow a very high ideal in your life. That

    nobleman is an ordinary man, with simple goals in his life. The standards of behavior are different for you

    and for him. so by claiming to be a good person, our responsibility increases greatly.

    I have tried to give you some ideas about todays topic. I have also tried to explain to you

    Vedantas stand on this subject. With this, I end my lecture. I now open the topic for a Q&A session.

    Thank you for a patient hearing.

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