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Why didn't Cell feel Gohan's power when Gohan first turnsSuper Saiyan level 2

Hey guys I was thinking about how all of the Z fighters including Cell were able to sense ki somy question is this.

When gohan got inraged and powers up to ssj2 why didn't cell sense his enormous power atthat point and realize that gohan's ssj2 power was stronger then cell's full power. It's not likeGohan was hidden or masking his power from cell to surprise him.

Im sure Vegeta,Trunks,Piccolo,Goku and the rest of the Z fighters could feel gohan's massivepower level after he transforms in ssj2. I don't know how much stronger ssj2 gohan iscompared to perfect cell but I would bet that gohan was at least 5-10 times stronger then cellbased on how gohan massively damaged Cell with two simple punches and forced cell toregergitate android 18. Keep in mind I'm talking about perfect cell not super perfect cell.Realisticly Cell should have felt SSJ2 Gohan's enormous power and realized that he didn'tstand a chance.

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A silly plothole, like everyone thinking Gohan was dead in the Buu saga.

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I think it had to do with Gohan... well, not masking his power per se, but pretty muchaccentuating it the second he hits or blasts an attack. Such as that Kamehameha he hit tocounter Cell's vertical Kamehameha when he wanted to destroy Earth, they made it seem as ifGohan engaged the blast in a snap of a second, he was pretty immobile while Cell's blast wentdown. I don't know, just a theory.


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Gohan still had to have powered up immensely to have dispatched of the Cell Jrs.

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Here's another one for you guys. Why didn't semi perfect cell feel vegeta's power when hefirst transforms into ussj. Piccolo and Tien could sense ussj vegeta's power from the lookout.Once vegeta goes ussj cell still thinks he is stronger then vegeta. When ussj vegeta beats thehell out of semi perfect cell then he realizes that he doesn't stand a chance. Once againrealisticly semi perfect cell should have sensed ussj vegeta's power like piccolo and tien didand quickly realize that he didn't stand a chance.


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To be honest, some of those cases could be labeled as pure arrogance. Either the villain notwanting to come to realization or that he sensed his opponent has gotten much stronger butstill believes in his head he could out-fight him. Then, as he gets beat up reality comes back tohim.

It also gave a different kind of suspense to SSJ2 Gohan and USSJ Vegeta's powers. The thingwith the villain feeling his opponent's power is that the situation is pretty much out in the open- the villain states he's hella strong with sometimes an emotion of surprise/shock/slightconcern on his face. When Gohan and Vegeta transformed, it was one of those suspensefulmoments. "How strong are they?" "what are they gonna do?" "is the transformation reallyfruitful or not?" and leaves those questions open until the saiyan in question starts attackingand answers are revealed as he's doing more and more damage, taking the villain - and thereader/spectator - by surprise.


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Basically, if there isn't an explanation for it, then it's a move purely done for the story. Even ifit seems plothole-ish. Can't really fault them for that.


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Gohan still had to have powered up immensely to have dispatched of the Cell Jrs.

And Cell didn't notice anything.

He was surprised. Shocked.

Cell's too cocky. Immature I'd reckon.



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That makes sense but based on how ssj2 gohan raped cell with just 2 simple punches I am

willing to say that gohan was at least 5-10 times stronger then cell. I don't care how arogantor cocky a fighter is. If a fighter can sense his opponent's power being at least 3 timesstronger then his own then he's going to sense the ki difference no matter how arogant orcocky he is. Cell might be cocky and arogant but he still should have common sense.

Here is an example. My benchpress max is 405 pounds for 1 rep. If I see a guy benchpress900 pounds for 1 rep then common sense tells me that he is alot stronger then me andcommon sense tells me not to mess with that guy.

ussj vegeta was probrably 1.5 to 2 times stronger then semi perfect cell but ssj2 gohan was atthe very least more then 3 times stronger then cell's full power based on the fight. Cell shouldhave immediately sensed the massive ki difference between his power and ssj2 gohan's poweras soon as gohan transformed. It's not like gohan was hidden his power level. He was inragedand ascended so his power was fully engaged for everyone to sense.


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Vegeta at 24k is easily able to dispose of Dodoria who was over 18k at the very least. So youdon't need to necessarily be 5-10x stronger than your opponent to have an overwhelmingadvantage, power level wise at least.

Cell has shown that he has been able to sense ki when he sensed Piccolo fighting 17.

I think Cell took on Vegeta/Freeza/Cold's trait when he fell into his rage when Gohan wasmocking him.

When Cell did his FP Kamehameha, Gohan had to at least put a little effort into hisKamehameha imo. I agree though that the x2 SSJ2 multiplier may be a bit low but we don'treally know how much weaker SSJ Gohan is than Cell, especially since Gohan didn't want tofight Cell at all, yet he was still stronger than SSJ Goku. Cell claimed that he could still takeeveryone if Goku ate a senzu (this was prior to Cell knowing how strong Gohan was though) soI would say that SSJ Goku < 50% Cell however Cell could have been bluffing but I doubt it.

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Cell can sense ki's, and as a result of this, he knew very well how strong Gohan was. It hasnothing to with errors or plotholes, Cell knew all too well what he was up against. But really,what would you expect him to do? Lie on his back and roll over for Gohan in the hope hewould be spared? Of course not, he'd do everything he can to win...

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Vegeta at 24k is easily able to dispose of Dodoria who was over 18k at the very least.So you don't need to necessarily be 5-10x stronger than your opponent to have anoverwhelming advantage, power level wise at least.

Another (even better) example: Vegeta at 24k kicking Zarbon's ass (who's stated in the Dai'sto be around 23k). That's a gap of around 1,04. And it's enough to dominate a battle.

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for the vegeta zarbon fight the solution i came up with that was that vegeta was suppressinghis power... he clearly shows hes capable of finding people through ki and actual had his kisuppressed right before cui...

vegeta also is suppressed right before jeice..

there are so many fights that end up in this plothole

vegeta vs tru form frieza

others sense frieza pl... vegeta uses a blast that extinguishes his ki and still cant do anydamage...

ussj vegeta vs perfect cell

same situation here except his super charged final flash actually does rip cell in half...but hewas confident to fight him toe to toe in the beggining.



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I chalk it up to arrogance and blind pride. Cell more than likely thought his true full powerwould at the very least level the playing field, so at the time, he was not really concerned.Once he realized how weak he was compared to Gohan at his true full strength, got f'ed up byGohans counter Kamehameha, went all big and bulky and lost his composure, vommiting up18 as a result, he more than likely realized it then, but didn't want to accept it necessarily.Like GOGETA said, he wasn't gonna just give up, truly evil villains never do that. Same reason

he kept trying to attack Gohan even after he reverted to semi perfect form before selfdestructing. He knew he was weaker, but still tried to manage an offense, out of anger, rage,and fear.

The good guys don't just lay down like dogs when they know they are out classed, nor do thevillains.

The difference between heroes and villains however, is that usually the hero knows they areoutclassed, the villains are so blindly arrogant and cocky, they don't realize it right away, andusually don't realize it until it is to late for them.

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Good explaination Mishimi. I think that makes alot of sense.


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for the vegeta zarbon fight the solution i came up with that was that vegeta wassuppressing his power... he clearly shows hes capable of finding people through ki andactual had his ki suppressed right before cui...

Doubtful; because if he were suppressed, then it means he would have had more poweravailable to bust out against transformed Zarbon, but that wasn't the case. 24k was more thanlikely his full power at that point.

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