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August 1995 Vol 23 No8

CONTENTS 1 Straight amp Levell

Espie Butch Joyce

2 AlC NewsHG Frautschy

4 Aeromail

5 Life as Viewed through a 140s WindshieldDon Alesi

6 From the ArchivesDennis Parks

10 Steve Wittmans First Airplane shyThe Hardly Ableson HG Frautschy and Pat Packard

12 The Paramount Cabinaire HG Frautschy

16 Steve Wittmans Hardly Ableson Drawing by Pat Packard

18 AI Nordgrens Grumman G-44 WidgeonlNorm Petersen

22 Vintage SeaplanesNorm Petersen

24 Pass it to BucklEE Buck Hilbert

25 Why did it Sag Off Norm Petersen

26 Mystery PlaneHG Frautschy

28 Welcome New Members

29 Calendar

30 Vintage Trader

Page 6

Page 18

Page 25

FRONT COVER The Paramount Cabinaire a Wolter Carr design from the roaring twenties This particular example the lost one of its type is SIN 7 and has been restored by Fred Clark and Bud Rogers It was the Antique Silver Age (1928-1932) Champion at EM Sun n Fun 95 EM Photo by Jim Koepnick shot with on EOS-IN equipped with a 7D-200mm f28 lens 1125 at fl4 on Kodak Ektachrome Lumiere 100 film Cessna 210 photo plane piloted by Bruce Moore

BACK COVER The Mckinnon conversion of the Grumman G-44 is dubbed the Super Widgeon This Continental 10-540 powered twin was restored by AI Nordgren and it was picked as the Best Amphibian at EM Sun n Fun 95 EM Photo by Jim Koepnick shot with on EOS-IN equipped with a 7D-200mm 128 lens 1250 at f9 on Kodak Ektachrome Lumiere 100 film Cessna 210 photo plane piloted by Bruce Moore

Copyright copy 1995 by the EAA AntiqueClassic Division Inc All rights reserved VINTAGE AIRPlANE (ISSN 0091-6943) is published and owned exclusively by the EM AntiqueClassic Division Inc of the Experimental Aircraft Association and is published monthly at EM Aviation Center 3OIJO Poberezny Rdbull PO Box 3086 Oshkosh Wisconsin 54903-3086 Second Class Postage paid at Oshkosh Wisconsin 54901 and at additional mailing offICes The membership rate for EM AntiqueClassic Division Inc is $2700 for current EM members for 12 month period of which $1500 is for the publication of VINTAGE AIRPLANE Membership is open to all who are interested in aviation POSTMASTER Send address changes to EM AntiqueClassic Division Incbull PO Box 3086 Oshkosh WI 54903-3086 FOREIGN AND APO ADDRESSES - Please allow at least two montha for delivery of VINTAGE AIRPlANE to foreign and APO addresses via surface mail ADVERTISING - AntiqueClassic Division does not guarantee or endorse any product offered through the advertising We invite constructive criticism and welcome any report of inferior merchandise obtained through our advertiSing so that corrective measures can be taken EDITORIAl POUCY Readers are encouraged to submit stories and photographs Policy opinions expressed in erticles are solely those of the authors Responsibility for accuracy in reporting rests entirely wnh the contributor No renumeration is made Material should be sent to Ednor VINTAGE AIRPlANE PO Box 3086 Oshkosh WI 54903-3086 Phone 414426-4800

The words EM ULTRALfGHT FLY WITH THE FIRST TEAM SPORT AVIATION and the logos of EAA EM INTERNATIONAL CONVENTION fAA ANTIQUECLASSIC DIVISION INTERNATIONAL AEROBATIC CLUB WARBIRDS OF AMERICA are reg registered trademarks THE fAA SKY SHOPPE and logos of the fAA AVIATION FOUNDATION and fAA ULTRALIGHT CONVENTION are trademarks of the above associations and their use by any person other than the above association is strictly prohibned

EDITORIAL STAFF Publisher

Tom Poberezny

Vice-President Marketing 8c Communications

Dick Matt

Editor-in-Chief Jack Cox

Editor Henry G Frautschy

Managing Editor Golda Cox

Art Director Mike Drucks

Assistant Art Director Sara AOtto

Computer Graphic Specialists Olivia L Phillip Jennifer Larsen

Advertising Mary Jones

ASSOCiate Editor Norm Petersen

Feature Writers George Hardie Jr Dennis Parks

Staff Photographers Jim Koepnick Mike Steineke

Carl Schuppel Donna Bushman

Editorial Assistant Isabelle Wiske

EAA ANTIQUECLASSIC DIVISION INC OFFICERS

President Vice-President Espie Butch Joyce Arthur Morgan

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STRAIGHT amp LEVEL

by Espie Butch Joyce

The August VINTAGE AIRshyPLANE is generally considered the EAA Oshkosh Convention issue of your magazine I try to let everyone know what activities are taking place during the week as well as other items of interest

It is with great sadness that I must report to the membership that Anshytique Classic Vice-President Art Morshygan passed away suddenly July 9 1995 It was reported to me that Art was working on his and Kate s airplane on Saturday afternoon with his friend Andy Art told Andy that he was not feeling well and was going home and take it easy the rest of the afternoon That night Art began to feel worse so Kate took him to the hospital at 500 am Sunday morning Art had intershynal bleeding that the doctors were unshyable to control and he died at 400 pm Sunday A memorial service was held in Menomonee Falls WI Thursshyday night the 13th of July

Arthur R Morgan (EAA 17674 AC 2355 WB 9877) was 58 years old at the time of his passing He joined the Experimental Aircraft Association in 1962 and was a Century Club memshyber He was a very loyal EAA memshyber - if you called his phone number and got his answering machine there was a recruiting message about the EAA AntiqueClassic Division asking you to join up Arts volunteer work began in the days of the Rockford Illishynois Convention When the fly-in moved to Oshkosh he became the Classic Parking Chairman and later became the Parking Chairman for the total AntiqueClassic area Still later he became the Flight Line Chairman encompassing the parking and security areas Art assembled a very capable group of volunteers and trained these people to do a good job Besides his work for the Convention he served as a Director of your Division for a numshyber of years and as Vice-President for

Art Morgan 1937-1995

the past six years Art was a good friend and Ill miss his presence at EAA Oshkosh 95 Kate Arts wife would like for me to pass along her thanks to everyone for their thoughts and kindness

During the Convention if you would like to fly in the AntiqueClasshysic Parade of Flight be sure and come by the red barn to pick up a form Fill it out and drop it off there Pashyrade of Flight Chairman Steve Nesse can then look you up and talk to you about this activity We also will be once again having our fly out to Shawano This is a good get-together for a half day to relax and enjoy new friendships

Speaking of good fellowship and a good time check out the Antique Classic picnic Tickets go fast so be sure and stop by early and buy them Remember should you need assisshytance come by the RED BARN someone there will be able to help you

or know where you ll need to go for help One of the most active areas close to Headquarters is the Type Club tent Here you can meet the princishypals of your Type Club You ll often run into someone you may have talked to but have never met face-to-face Also located next to the Type Club tent is the AntiqueClassic Mainteshynance Tent here you can observe and learn about maintenance practices on older airplanes as well as perhaps getshyting an answer to that technical quesshytion that no one else has been able to solve for you

Be sure to check the forum schedshyule to make sure that you do not miss a subject that you would like more inshyformation about The Red Barn as it is known is your AntiqueClassic Headquarters as I have mentioned before this is a very good recognizshyable landmark where you can have your friends meet with you during the day Also the porch at the Barn is a good place to relax in the shade and watch the air show

Just in case you are looking for them the OX-5 Headquarters is loshycated just to the west of the Barn then just to the west of them is located the airline pilots sign-in tent Just across from the Barn to the east will be 20 to 25 Golden Age air racers - you wont see that type of gathering anywhere else Down the east side of the northsouth paved road you can see the beautiful past champion award winning aircraft

Looking around the show makes you realize how important the EAA AntiqueClassic Division is as a group dedicated to preserving and flying Anshytique Classic and Contemporary airshycraft It is important that you conshytinue to ask friends to join up with us as members Lets all pull in the same direction for the good of aviation Reshymember we are better together Join us and have it all

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ART MORGAN 1937-1995

EAA AntiqueClassic vice-presishydent Art Morgan passed away July 91995 A pilot since 1961 Art and his wife Kate have been EAA and AC Division volunteers for over 20 years A Director of the Division since 1978 he was serving as AC parking Chairman and as vice-presishydent at the time of his death For more on Art please read president Butch Joyces Straight amp Level column on page 2

The Robertson Work Experience Program offers the opportunity for two youngsters to recreate the atmosphere of Cliff Robertsons own aviation expeshyriences as a youth as he traded his labor for a few precious moments in the air

Our thanks to Mr Robertson and The Ray Foundation the programs sponsor for their support and assistance in bringing these young people to the EAA Aviation Center

AlC CHAPTER 29

Local AntiqueClassic activity conshytinues to grow and to further undershyscore that fact we have the news that one more AntiqueClassic Chapter has been added to the list AntiqueClassic Chapter 29 the San Francisco Bay Chapter has been organized with Bud Field as its charter president Meetings are held every second Thursday of the month at Hayward Airport Meeting time is 7 pm and you can contact Bud at 510489-0574 or Secretary Lynn Jorshygenson at 5101736-2992 for more inforshymation A total of 37 charter members and officers were included in their Chapter application an outstanding number for a new Chapter We look

WE SHALL MISS bull bull

Harold moved on to a long (30 year) cashy Flies and later tbe HM-l The Zeta anshyreer with TWA as an airline pilot and he other Miller design is on display in tbe also kept active in recreational aviation flyshy Springfield MA Science Museum as are ing his 145 Warner powered Monocoupe he repLicas of bis designs in tbe New England called Little Mulligan He continued flying Air Museum aerobatics until well into his 70s often flying He was an active and enthusiastic supshyin International A erobatic Club competishy ported of the WolfBenjamin effort to build tions Little Mulligan has been donated to their replica of the Gee Bee R-2 and in fact the EAA Aviation Foundation and we look Steve Wolf held a phone out the door during forward to its display Delmars first flight so that Pete Miller could

hear the sound of the new Gee Bee Ken Cook Later be worked for United Technoloshy

(1914-1995) gies at their Research Center from whicb he retired in 1969 after a 27 year-long career

For many of our members the name Ken with the corporation Cook may have a familiar ring - be was the publisher of American Airman magazine Our condolences to the family and friends of during tbe late 1950s until tbe early 60s Harold Neumann Howell Pete Miller and

Ken CookThe founder of Ken Cook Company a pubshylishing firm specializing in produet support Ken was also an active aviation book pubshylisher and was one of tbe first owners of a military surplus jet He flew a DH Vampire around tbe Milwaukee area during the early 1960s

Howell Pete Miller (1902-1995)

Pete Miller whose Gee Bee R) and R-2 designs helped define the Golden Age of Air Racing died July 10 1995 at the age of 93 Pete graduated from New York Univershysity in 1926 and went to work at botb Huff- ~ Daland and Keystone before being hired by ~ Zantford Grannie Granville to serve as the formal engineer for Granville Brothers Airshy Howell Pete Miller with the Gee Bee craft succeeding Bob Hall His engineering R-2 replica constructed by Delmar talents were also seen in Frank Hawks Time Benjamin and Steve Wolf

Harold Neumann and his beloved Little Mull igan a 145 Warner powered Monocoupe he flew after his retirement from TWA

Harold Neumann (1906-1995)

Harold Neumann (EAA29004) of Redshywood City CA passed away July 5 1995 at age 89 Harold was the young man who flew Benny Howards M r Mulligan to victory in the 1935 Thompson Trophy race 35 was a good year for Harold for he also won the Greve Trophy race with Howards Mike His passing means the loss of the last pre-war Thompson Trophy winner

That same year Mr Mulligan was flown to victory in the Bendix transcontinental race by Benny and Gordon Israel The three wins completed a sweep by an airplane maker of the top three events at the National Air Races that was never duplicated

Harold flew the Folkerts SK-2 Toots in the 36 NAR winning the 375 cu inch class race and placing second in the Greve and fourth in the Thompson

compiled by HC Frautschy

forward a report of their activities - with that much enthusiasm were sure lots of good things are happening

CLIFF ROBERTSON WORK EXPERIENCE PROGRAM

Two Young Eagles from the western part of the USA have been selected as the Cliff Robertson Work Experience Program participants Tim Reid 16 years old of Cheyenne WY and 17 year old Mike Hagele of Kamiah TO have started working at the EAA Air Advenshyture Museums Pioneer Airport Durshying the time theyll spend working at Pishyoneer airport (July and August) flight instructormentor Instructor Mark Foss of Janesville WI will provide dual inshystruction

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MAIL

Dear Sir-

In your February 1995 issue you have a spread of the 1929 Thompson Cup with all the aircraft in the race

To correct the record 30 was flown by C D Bowyer-Cleidth Donald Bowyer-who was my instructor and I was at the race He was not flying a Cessna Airmaster but rather a Cessna AC powered by a Comet engine I have actually flown the airplane

Thought you d like the record straight

Nice magazine Sincerely yours R N Buck P O Box 689 Moretown VT 05660-068

Gentlemen

I have just finished reading a fascishynating book On A Wing And A Prayer which is a collection of aviashytion columns written by Ernie Pyle for the Washington Daily News from 1928 through 1932 Few knew Ernie Pyle as a pioneer aviation writer but rememshyber him as one of the best of the war correspondents during WW II He knew most of the great and not so great pilots of the 1928-1932 period of aviashytion and wrote of them in his columns

Some of his vocabulary is reminisshycent of the times What we now call aerobatics he called stunting An enshygine was a motor and an instrument panel was a dashboard

I began flying in 1929 from Chanshydler Field in Atlanta so many of the names and stories in this collection of his columns brings back many memoshyries of those people and their times Let me share a couple of them with you and your readers

One of Ernie s columns was deshyvoted to Johnny Kytle a pilot for Eastshyern Air Transport on their Atlanta to Richmond mail run using Pitcairn Mailwing airplanes In a stormy night flight from Atlanta to Richmond in 1928 Johnny crashed into the west side of Stone Mountain with only mishynor injuries Stone Mountain is a solid block of granite rising about 700 feet

above the surrounding terrain with alshymost vertical sides on three sides and a gentle slope on the west side with scatshytered scrub trees Johnny flew into the sloping west side and came to a stop in the tops of several small scrub trees It was very dark and he couldnt see the ground from his wrecked airplane restshying in the tops of trees but he finally managed to rescue the mail and climb down one of the trees to the ground Johnny s company decided that the airplane wasnt worth salvaging so it was bulldozed over the north side of the mountain A local farmer later hauled the wreckage a short distance to his barn and charged the aviation hungry public 25 cents admission to see it

While my memory is back in the late 1920s and early 30s another aviashytion adventure in Atlanta aviation comes to mind although it is not reshylated to the Pyle columns

Chandler Field in those days had two fixed base operators Beeler Blevins and Doug Davis Beeler Blevins Ed Hightower and our local wingwalker Bonnie Rowe were the participants in this tale Beeler conshytracted with a movie company to proshyvide three airplanes with pilots and wingwalker Bonnie Rowe to film a seshyquence involving an airplane losing a wheel on takeoff a second airplane lowering a replacement wheel by rope to Bonnie Rowe on the damaged airshyplane and a third airplane flown by ~d Hightower with a movie cameraman 10

the rear cockpit to film the stunt Incishydentally the one wheeled airplane with Blevins and Rowe aboard was a Jenny Bonnie Rowe did all the wingshywalking on the Jenny and after reshymoving a wheel and stowing it he preshypared to receive the replacement wheel from the airplane flying close formation above Somehow in lowershying the rope with the replacement wheel attached the rope became enshytangled around the propeller shaft of the Jenny stalling the OX-5 engine Bonnie Rowe quickly cut the rope with his sheath knife separating the two aircraft and the Jenny made a one wheel dead stick landing with no inshy

juries to any of the participants The movie cameraman in Ed Hightowers airplane flying close by all this action was so excited by the emergency that he forgot to crank his movie camera so none of it was filmed

Once us old-timers get started telling tales of the early days of aviashytion we dont know when to stop This turned out to be a longer epistle than I had intended but it has been fun

Very truly yours W R (Bill) Plage (AlC 21147) 6165 River Shore Parkway NW Atlanta GA 30328-3704

Dear Mr Elliott

Your letter to (EAA) VINTAGE AIRPLANE was printed in the May 1995 issue You asked for information regarding MILES SPARROWHAWK NC191M I have a lot of info for you

I keep my aircraft Navion N350FU at Lantana Airport Lantana Florida and have hung around this airport since my separation from the United States Air Force in November 1955 Mr Perry Boswell of Delray Beach Florida owned NC191M in the late 1950s He had it modified apparently for racing-lower side profile etc Perry owned several interesting airshycraft such as a Nieuport 28 and others He sold the Sparrowhawk to Mr George Roberts now of Reno Nevada Mr Roberts owned the bird at the time of its demise April 22 1959 On that day the aircraft was beshying flown in an air show of the local vashyriety It made a low pass down the runway pulled up sharply stalled and flat spun onto the runway killing the pilot Sergeant Hamlin of the USAF who was alone in the airplane The aircraft was a complete loss the largest piece being about the size of a bushel basket Mr Roberts the owner of the Miles is the only person at this time who would know of the disposition of the wreckage

Mr Owen Gassaway the owner and operator of Florida Airmotive Inc at this airport has been present on the airport since the early 1940s He is the true guru of the airport and is the final authority on all of the various comings and goings at this airport since that time He is a true aerophile and loves airplanes and their pilots He has a few pictures of the subject Sparshyrowhawk including at least one of the crash debris I am sure he could proshyvide additional information and stories about this plane and the people inshyvolved His address and phone numshyber are as follows 2633 Lantana Road Lantana FL 33462 407965-6400

(Continued on page 27)

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Lie as Viewed Through a 140s Windshield

by Don Alesi NC 16315

month marathon with the 140 we were reshyminded that we were quite a bit younger and had what it took I disagree

This couple still had that same enthusishyasm we did Ill bet they could still fly the socks off our 140 had there been be tte r weather Everyone we talked to about flying be it young or old first rides or seashysoned experts all shared that same love of airplanes we did

I guess what I realized today is th a t when it comes to airplanes pilots and flyshying how you feel on the outside has little

to do with how you feel on the inside Beshytween the kids we flew and the adults we met I became as young as they are

Im 31 own my own airplane and toshyday I feel kind of old I have a job that is more muscle than mental Im beginning to think like my parents and getting up at five for work every day is more hassle than hustle

My wife and I rebuilt a Cessna 140 over a seven month period Some social life we had last yea r But there is a si lver lining to that time - with the airp lane came a whole bunch of new friends Most of these fine people are over 50 and some are seeshying the higher side of seventy I guess by airplane standards we are quite young

We bought this airplane abo ut four years ago noHglOwing a thing about anshytit~ c assic or even modern a irplanes for tha alter But as we flew more and

are young again What I have learned from these folks

Theyre not old at least not in the ordishynary sense of the word Sure there s a bit of gray hair one more chin and the two mile run is not their best event It s their mind It s the skill that they neve r lost Plus a ll the wisdom the experience and stories they have

I also think of owners of the old bishyplanes Im talking Wacos Fleets Stearshymans and more One owner I met worked

at one of the factories To them flying was just the icing on the cake compared to the e nj oyment they get working on a Wright or old Continental engine They are craftsman not just mechanics trying to make a living The place where my airshyplane is worked on is run by just such a man He works on other peoples modern aircraft with the same enthusiasm he has when he goes home and putts around his home with his Stearman or T-28 warbird It sure has rubbed off on me

So how does this fit in with how I feel today This mornin g my wife and I crawled out of bed dragged ourselves to the airport and prepared to go to a nearby air strip for a picnic and to give a bunch of kids some rides

As we strapped on the 140 and fired up the old Continental my mood began to change The pains in my bones that I earned as a paratrooper in the Army beshygan to go away faster than the haze that had blessed us this morning I thought about these people and my first ride in a small air lane

ne weather was warm and hazy with the wind predicted to be about twenty knots at almost ninety degrees to the runshyway Thank goodness for the parallel grass runway Maureen and I were going to have our hands full

Throughout the day Maureen and I took turns giving rides while the other briefed the kids and visited with the parshyents and grandparents One elderly genshytleman came over and asked that hi s grandson be given a ride in the same type aircraft that he took his first ride in Heck We ended up taking both up and I don t know who smiled more The boy the grandfather or myself

This was about the best fly-in I ever atshytended Maureen and I flew about a dozen kids and five adults Over eighty kids reshyceived their Young Eagle flights and alshythough we were exhausted we felt great

Whenever Im feeling tired and old I think of these people and how they have changed my view of things I hope when Im truely old I can say I did a little someshything for aviation in the same way these people have touched my aviation soul To all of them I say THANK YOU

FROM THE ARCHIVES

CURTISS MAIL PLANES

1925-1930

From 1925 through 1930 Curtiss proshyduced a series of mailplanes many of which went to National Air Transport (see the February 1995 issue of VINshyTAGE AIRPLANE) National Air Transport founded in May 1925 was one of the first companies organized specifically to operate as an airline The Curtiss aircraft used by National were the CARRIER PIGEON the FALCON MAILPLANE and the CARRIER PIGEON II With the aid of photos provided by Peter M Bowers the various models are detailed below

(Top) Curtiss Carrier Pigeon at St Joseph MO airport 1925

(Above and right) The first of the Curtiss air mail series the Carrier Pigeon This design was offered in the 1925 Post Ofshyfice competition for a single-seat mailplane to be powered by a Liberty enshygine National Air Transport (NAT) purshychased their first plane from the Post Ofshyfice and had 10 others constructed These were powered by 400 hp Liberty engines With a 56 cubic foot compartshyment they were able to carry 1000 pounds of cargo with a cruising speed of 105 mph and a range of 525 miles

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(Above and Right) The Curtiss Falcon Mailplane of 1928-29 Fourteen of the comshymercial version of the military Falcon were built for NAT in 1928 and 1929 In the air mail Falcon the pilots seat was moved to the aft observers position Up front two metalshylined compartments were placed capable of holding 750 pounds of mail The 425 hp Libshyerty powered aircraft had a cruising speed of 125 mph and a range of 728 miles

(Below) The Curtiss Carrier Pigeon of 1929 This was a new design developed in reshysponse to inquiries for a huge single engine airplane that could carry a ton of payload The Carrier Pigeon was the largest and heaviest single engine mailplane of its time and for some time to come Though bulkier the Carrier Pigeon was a much cleaner deshysign than the Falcons NAT had three of these mailplanes

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Curtiss Carrier Pigeon II

REGISTRATIONS NATIONAL AIR TRANSPORT 1929-1932

Make Model Year Registration Years In built Number Register

Ford 5-AT-C 1930 NC-411H 1930193 11932

Ford 5-AT-C 1930 NC-4 13H 1930193 11932 Ford 5-AT-C 1930 NC-420H 1931 Ford 5-AT-C 1930 NC-422H 19311932 Ford 5-AT-D 1932 NC-424H 1932 Ford 5-AT-C 1930 NC-426H 19311932

Ford 5-AT-C 1930 NC-427H 1931 Ford 5-AT-D 1931 NC-436H 19311932

Ford 5-AT-C 1929 NC-841 4 19311932 Ford 5-AT-C 1929 NC-841S 19311932

Ford S-AT-B 1929 NC-9668 19311932

Ford 5-AT-B 1929 NC-9669 193 11932 Boeing 40-B-4 1930 NC-103S1 1932 Boeing 40-B-4 1930 NC- l 03S2 1932 Boeing 40-B-4 1930 NC-l03SS 1932

Stinson SM-8A 1930 NC-298W 19301931 Northrop Alpha 2 1930 NC-llY 1932

Curtiss Carrier Pigeon 1926 C-29 1929


Make Model

Curtiss Carrier Pigeon

Curtiss Carrier Pigeon Curtiss Falcon

Boeing 95 Boeing 95

Boeing 95 Boeing 95

Boeing 95 Boeing 95 Boeing 95

Boeing 95 Falcon Falcon Falcon Falcon

Falcon Falcon

Falcon

Year built

1926 1926

1928 1928 1928 1928

1928 1928

1928 1928

1928 1928 1928 1928

1928 1928 1929

1929

Registration Number

C-31 C-3S

C-11 2E NC-183E NC-18S E

NC-187E NC-188E

NC-189 E NC-190E NC-191 E

NC-191E C-208E C-209E

C-210E C-211 E C-212E

NC-2SSH NC-2S6H

Years In Register

1929 19291930

19291930193 11932 1932 1932

1932 1932

1932 1932 19301932

1931 192919301931 1932 192919301931

19291930193 11932 19291930193 1 19291930193 11932

192919301931 1929193019311932

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Falcon 1929 NC-257H 193019311932

Falcon 1929 NC-258H 19301931 1932

Falcon 1929 NC-301E 193019311932

CurtissCarrier Pigeon 1929 NC-311N 19301931 1932

Boeing 95 1929 NC-397E 1930

Boeing 95 1929 C-412E 1929

Boeing 95 1929 NC-413E 1932

Boeing 95 1929 C-414E 192919301931 1932

Boeing 95 1929 NC-415E 1932

Boeing 95 1929 NC-417E 19301931 1932

Boeing 95 1928 C-423E 1929193019311932

Boeing 95 1928 C-424E 192919311932

Boeing 95 1929 C-425E 1929193019311932

Boeing 95 1929 C-426E 1929

Douglas M3 1926 C-789 1929

Douglas M4 1926 C-791 192919301931

Douglas M4 1926 C-794 192919301931

Douglas M4 1926 NC-795 1929193019311932

Air King 1929 NC-883H 1930

Curtiss Carrier Pigeon 1929 NC-905H 1932


Douglas M3 1927 C-lOOO 1929193019311932

Douglas M3 1927 C-1001 192919301931

Douglas M3 1927 NC-l003 192919301931

Douglas M4 1926 NC-l060 1929193019311932

Douglas M3 1926 C-l061 1929193019311932

Douglas M4 1926 C-1063 192919301931

Douglas M3 1926 NC-1645 192919301931 1932

Douglas M4 1926 C-1646 1929

Douglas M4 1926 C-1647 1929193019311932

Douglas M3 1926 NC-1649 192919301931

Travel Air 5000 1927 C-3002 19291930

Douglas M4 1928 C-3881 192919301931

Stearman C3MB 1928 NC-4552 1931

Stearman C3MB 1928 C-4552 19301932

Pitcairn PA5 1928 C-5636 1929

Pitcairn PA5 1928 C-5863 1929 (Above) William J Spencer NAT Airmail Pilot stands before Douglas M4 1928 C-7163 1929 an NAT Curtiss Falcon

Boeing 49B 1927 C-7471 1929

Curtiss Falcon Mail Plane 1929 NC-8670 19311932 (Below) An NAT Curtiss Falcon Mailplane

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VINTAGE AIRPLANE 9

In 1923 and 1924 as Sylvester Steve Wittman was preparing to gradshyuate high school his dream of becoming an aeronautical engineer was still a part of him but with no financial resources available for the Byron WI native to atshytend college he had to rely on his own study habits and the practical knowlshyedge hed gained to be able to make a career in the new industry of aviation

A little background history will give the reader a clearer understanding of his aeronautical beginnings As a youngster Steves father Martin was the station agent for the Soo Line railshyroad in the little Wisconsin town of Byshyron 7 miles south of Fond du Lac The family lived in the depots living quarshyters located on the second floor His mother Mary Ann was also adept at handling the railroads affairs at the stashytion including being a skilled telegrashypher

The family managed to get by fine for a number of years until tragedy struck Little Steve was only eight years old when his father passed away at the age of 56 Fortunately because her coshyworkers at the station vouched for her abilities Mrs Wittman was retained by the Soo Line as the station agent after her husband s death Still times were hard and Steve recalled spending a good part of his youth working to earn additional money to help support the family which also included his older brothers Martin A Hubert Raymond and his older sister Marie As a young adult Martin A fell ill with a disease that slowly calcified his back He beshycame a bedridden invalid and required constant care With his mother working for the railroad Steve had to help care

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for his older brother He found he had little time for school and as a conseshyquence he didnt finish high school until he was 20 years old

After graduating from Fond du Lac high school in 1924 he and his buddy Perry Anderson bought a Standard J-I He had been riding a motorcycle for a couple of years with no problems associshyated with exceptionally poor sight in his right eye the result of a viral illness Steve suffered at the age of 5 He and Perry learned to fly the biplane and imshymediately put it to work by selling adshyvertising on its fuselage sides They barnstormed all over Wisconsin selling rides and putting on flying exhibitions to help foot the bills Witt as he was often known to his friends also ran a fledgling fixed base operation at the Fond du Lac airport then located on the east end of the town directly on the south end of Lake Winnebago

But all of this took place after an earshylier aeronautical project for Steve Wittmans first airplane was one he built himself Before he graduated high school Witt had been involved in the construction of an airplane the first of his own design As he finished high school he was also hard at work designshying and building his first homebuilt airshyplane Since motorcycle riding was acshycomplished with no problem why not realize a long held dream of learning to fly

In a series of interviews with Pat Packard that took place from 1991 until 1994 Steve related the details of the airshyplanes construction It was to be a monoplane of what we now consider conventional layout with squared off tail and wing surfaces Power was a

Steve Wittmans

FIRST AIRPLANE by Patrick H Packard and HG Frautschy Drawing and model by Patrick H Packard

Additional biographical information from Steve Wittman - One of the Worlds Greatest Race Pilots II

by Aaron LKing Jr

Harley-Davidson 61 cubic inch V-twin motorcycle engine of 12-14 hp at 1200 rpm complete with an added gear reshyduction mounted between the two cylinshyders to drive the propeller The powershyplant would give the airplane its name shyit was dubbed the Hardly Ableson a play on words by Steve that pointed out the Harleys less than adequate power level given the task Steve was asking it to perform Its probably a safe bet that Steve didnt actually give it this name until after he had tried flying the airshyplane

The actual layout of the wing strucshyture does have a bit of mystery attached to it and with Steves passing we may never know Fortunately during the past winter Steve told Pat that he was pretty sure the spars for his first airshyplane still existed in the hangar loft of his Wisconsin home After Steves death as preparations were made to move artifacts from his hangar Pat and members of the EAA Foundations colshylections staff Ron Twellman and Sean Butler found a pair of spars that were identical in shape and layout and apshypeared to be old enough to be the spars for the Hardly Ableson Close examishynation showed that spars were not conshysistent with Steves description of the spars for his first homebuilt - they were strongly tapered and the mounting was with straps over the center section inshystead of the bolts through the spar as Steve had described them

Since Steve had described the use of the RAF 6 airfoil and he made no menshytion of a tapered wing in either chord or thickness it leads to the belief that the spars found are not those of the Hardly Ableson They do appear to be old

enough to be part of the materials he reshyceived when the Pheasant Airplane Company folded Steve had been the test pilot for a number of their airplanes and had raced one of their Pheasant Traveler high-wing monoplanes in local county fair races and airshows Alshythough too short to be standard Travshyeler wings perhaps they have some anshycestry in that design The spars are interesting artifacts and it is hoped that once they are put on display in the soonshyto-be constructed Wittman Hangar more information will come to light reshygarding their application

Until later conversations it was unshyclear if the wings were cantilever or strut-braced Without the actual spars to check it is difficult to confirm but a passing comment by Steve that he was pretty sure the wing was strut braced to the third wing rib bay (the root aileron bay) coupled with the general layout of the wing leads to a strong supposition that each wing had a pair of struts running from the landing gear Vee at the point where the gear legs inshytersect at the fuselage extending out to each spar The RAF 6 was a very popular airfoil of the period and was included in a number of US Navy airplanes built during that time

The landing gear was very simshyple in layout Two 34 x 3-12 oak vees were bolted flat to the sides of the fuselage with a tubular axle running in slots at the apex of the Vees The axle was actually a pair of tubes one slid inshyside the other for strength with the tire mounted on the smaller axle Bungee cords supported the solid axle in the slot and served as the only shock absorption in the landing gear

The construction of the Hardly was done entirely with wood except for the piano wire bracing (purchased from a Fond du Lac piano store) used in the wings tail and fuselage A spring from a wagon was fashioned into the tail skid and other small fittings were whittled out of scrap steel The wood for the airplane was transported from Green Bay back to Byron by railroad The spars themselves were built in the shops in Green Bay One of the men in the Green Bay shop cut the wood for the spars and then Steve brought them back to the railroad shed in Byron Steve had become pretty good friends with a number of Soo railroad men and he would hop a freight train enroute to the railroad shops in Green Bay 70 miles to the north where he was alshylowed to gather up scraps and other pieces of lumber Steve then returned home with his wood to construct his airshyplane

The fuselage was laid out so that Steve would sit on a wooden bench type seat with no padding and no seatbelt The seat was located between the front and aft spars so that the proper eG could be maintained While traveling around on his motorcycle with friends he often would stop at airports and talk with the pilots many were WW I pilots who flew war surplus Jennys and the like He learned much of his practical aeronautical knowledge he had to that point firsthand meeting the men who flew and maintained their own airplanes

Martin Wittman

I Little Steve was only eight years old when his father passed away at the age of 56

The shed in Byron did not have a workbench and the airplane was built on sawhorses After the fuselage was built Steve mounted the spars on the fuselage to use as a self-jig for the wing He bolted the wing spars into poshysition on the fuselage and proceeded to build the wing while in place Onlyafshyter it was done did he remove it so it could be covered

A number of areas showed a good eye for detail and you can see the beshyginnings of some of his intuitive feel for aircraft construction The wing ribs all had lightening holes and cap strips and

the use of a steel wire trailing edge showed the young Wittman understood that an airplane needed to be as light as practical to fly well

On the other hand one item will give the willies to anybody familiar with what today are considered sound engishyneering practices The use of the wood screw eyes in tension as control surface hinges was not the best idea - the screw eyes would pull out of the wood due to vibration andor stress over time Given the limited flying done with the airshyplane and the low speeds involved this particular fault never came into play

A 52 prop was carved out of lamishynated mahogany driven by the gear reshyduction The rear bearing for the prop drive shaft rested in a pillow block mounted on the top of the cowl and the front bearing and gear support was attached between the two cylinshyders The engine was bolted directly to a pair of bearers projecting from the firewall The gas tank sat dishyrectly behind the firewall with the pilots feet extending to the rudder pedals mounted on the floor beshylow the tank Steve sat down inshyside the fuselage with his upper chest shoulders and head extendshying above the top of the fuselage All the controls were actuated usshying two-cable controls (pull-pull controls) and the ailerons and eleshyvator were stick controlled No windscreen was fitted

The covering was cotton sheeting from the local Fond du Lac dry goods store tacked and stitched in place and then finished with thinned varnish as were the bare wood secshytions of the fuselage

After the airplane was complete he and a few of his friends pulled it

down the road to a farmers field where Steve set out to teach himself to fly The airplane did not have enough power to sustain flight - a bump or two in the field would launch the little airplane into the air for a flight but he never tried to clear the ever-present barbed wire fences surrounding the field He also recalled that on a couple of landshyings he managed to touch down sideshyways a bit rol1ing the motorcycle tires off of the rims He applied the standard fix used in those days - he wrapped tape around both the tire and rim to prevent the tires from being pushed off the rims during a side load Steve recal1ed that he flew it only a few times primarily beshycause it was very underpowered with some vibration from the Harley engine

The last landing of the Hardly Ableshyson ended in what we would describe as a ground loop with the landing gear folding and the wire wheels being badly


VINTAGE AIRPLANE 11

Fred Clark and Bud Rogers

Paramount Cabinaire An unusual cabin biplane From 1929

is back after 50 years

As a relatively young man Im still amazed by the fact that new old airshyplanes are still showing up for the first time on the modern fly-in circuit Fred Clark (EAA 260092) of Deland FL and Bud Rogers (EAA 83099 AIC 1243) of Sanford FL have brought one of the past s most rare antiques back to the skies

The Paramount Cabinaire was the result of the collaboration of Walshyter Carr and Joseph Behse The two Michigan aviators saw the need for an airplane that kept the passengers out of the slipstream enclosed in a sumpshytuous cabin

Walter Carr was a pioneer aviator who soloed in 1914 using a Curtiss Pusher He soon progressed to exhishybition flying showing off the new-fanshygled flyin machines to the public During the Great War he flew Jennys as an instructor for the US Signal

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by HG Frautschy

Corps His aviation experience conshytinued after the conflict when he bought his own Jenny and barnshystormed around the country eking out a living In 1919 domestic life beckoned and he married a young lady named Edith from Saginaw MI

As the years passed Edith made it clear that she wished Walter would settle down and live in one location so he decided to set up a fixed base operation at the Saginaw airport

All the time he spent flying passenshygers convinced Carr that if aviation were to progress with the general public being flown on a for-hire basis airplanes needed to be more comfortshyable Certainly he was not the first to realize this - Eddie Stinson saw the same need as did many others during the 1920s Carr wanted to convert his philosophy into hardware so he apshyproached some local men of substance

- two brothers Walter and Edward Savage and John Coryell all from the local area The four men came to an agreement that spelled out the estabshylishment of CSC Aircraft of Saginaw MI

Carrs idea for a cabin airplane would come to being as a three-place high wing monoplane powered by an OXX-6 Tipping the scales at 1660 Ibs the Maiden Saginaw wanted a lot from the Curtiss engine and apshyparently did not enjoy outstanding flight characteristics requiring the touch of an experienced pilot Unforshytunately for Walter the project never got past the prototype stage and only one of the aircraft was ever built beshyfore CSC Aircraft folded

Carr wasnt lacking for work at this point The Great Depression was still four years away and he was busy flyshying as the Chief pilot for Northern

(Opposite page) Fred Clark and Bud Rogers have brought back the Para shymount Cabinaire an unusual cabin bishyplane built in 1929 in Saginaw MI Fred had owned the airplane for over 20 years patiently collecting parts and pieces needed for the restoration over that time Bud became a partner in the airshyplane as the restoration was undertaken

(Top) The distinctive wing and cabin arrangement of the Paramount Cabi shynaire is shown off in this view

(Above right) When Walter Carr decided to build the Cabinaire he wanted a cabin with excellent visibility The seats feashyture a steel tube frame with wicker backs and seats and fabric upholstery The model 165 had a four-place cabin and a rather spartan instrument panel domishynated by a Consolidated style instrument cluster flanked with an altimeter and airspeed indicator

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Conceived by Michigan aviator Walter Carr and intended for the budget minded busishynessman or for charter work the Paramount Cabinaire received its Approved Type Certificate a week after the Stock Market Crash of 1929 The economic uncertainties of the time shut off the market possibilities for the Cabinaire and the company folded in 1931 after the death of company president Joe Behse

Airways most often flying a route beshytween Detroit Saginaw and Bay City He still had his fixed base operation at Saginaw flying charters and flight inshystructing with his trusty Travel Air 2000 His fortunes and experience both served him well for in 1927 the Warner Aircraft Co of Detroit was looking for a pilot to test fly their new engine The new Scarab series put out 110 hp and was targeted towards

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the same pi lots and aircraft who were flying behind the war-surplus Curtiss OX-5 wit h its 90 hp The OX-5 in Carrs Travel Air was pulled and the new 110 hp Warner put in its place Over 150 hours of flight time was put in by Carr with his Travel Air helping to proof test the engineering in what would become one of the Golden Age of Aviations more well known powshyerplants

All that time spent by Carr in the Travel Air helped gel an idea in his mind If the Travel Air was such a sweet flying machine why not make it a cabin job With one of those new Warner engines it could be a real money-maker just the ticket for those charters to the big city or as an ecoshynomic form of transportation for a growing businessman

Capital was sti ll needed though and the man who wo uld provide it was a fellow aviator a lbeit a rather well heeled one Joseph E Behse was heir to the Modart Corset factory fortune and had learned to fly in the military towards the end of WW I He never made it overseas with the War ending before his orders came through Back home in Saginaw he worked in the family business until it was sold in 1927 to another company

Behse put his money to work by backing Walter Carrs new venture which may have already had a protoshytype flying The exact history of the first Cabinaire is a bit foggy with some discrepancy as to when exactly the first airplane was built The configuration of the airplane has never been in doubt however

The biplane featured a cabin roofline that did not incorporate the upper wing Instead the upper wing was mounted above the cabin supshyported by a set of short cabane struts A single pair of N struts braced the wing structure with a push-pull aileron actuating rod extending from a bellshycrank in the lower wing to the ailerons mounted on the upper wings

The Paramount Aircraft Corp was incorporated at the end of the summer in 1928 Carr was fortunate to be the recipient of the SIN 1 Warner Scarab engine no doubt as partial or full payshyment for his services during flight testshying of the new engine It would serve as the engine in the first Cabinaire and it appears that his Travel Air also gave its very best to the project as well

The actual wings and tail surfaces of Carrs 2000 were put to use as was the basic fuse lage The upper longerons were reworked to extend the cabin roofline creating a three-seat airplane with plenty of room for the two passenshygers to enjoy the sights while the pilot took them to their far off destination

As is often the case with a new airshyplane there were lessons to be learned and the first airplane may have been reworked into the second Cabinaire SIN 2 As 1929 progressed Paramount Aircraft figured they had a good thing going for they sold their first airplane The early Cabinaires all had the same basic layout including a Warner 110 hp engine and a neat NACA low-drag cowl which Carr hoped would streamshy

line the airplane enough to negate the extra drag of the biplanes brace wires and wings

Four more 110 hp examples of the Cabinaire were built including SIN 5 which received a CAA Group II apshyproval a four-place airplane The next version of the airplane put the lessons of the first five into practice More power was needed for the Cabinaire to be a true four-place airplane and a reshyvised wing and landing gear configurashytion (used in the earlier production vershysions) was incorporated

The extra power came from a Wright J6-5 (R-540) which pumped out 165 hp with its 5 cylinders The new version of the Paramount product was to be known as the Cabinaire 165 The late fall of 1929 was certainly a good newslbad news time for the company shythe Cabinaire 165 received its Apshyproved type Certificate No 265 on November 21929 But the stock marshyket crash only the week before gave everybody in business the jitters and put them all on edge as far as the future was concerned

NC-17M was the seventh Cabinaire built and the first of the 165 series Carr and Behse gamely worked at proshymoting the Cabinaire but the market for the airplane barely existed Only two more were ever sold (including the rebuild of SIN 3 which created SIN 9) even after the two men set out to prove the airplanes worth in the 1930 Ford Reliability Air Tour a crossshycountry event that saw 18 entrants

The Cabinaire placed 15th not a parshyticularly great showing By the fall of 1930 as the Air Tour was winding up Carr let Behse know he was leaving Paramount Aircraft Sales were going nowhere fast and he didnt see how they would improve

Joe Behse continued as president but not for long A small two place floatplane was designed by Ralph Johnshyson who had done the engineering calshyculations on the Cabinaire It was named the Paramount Sportster The 110 hp Warner Scarab once again made an appearance on a Paramount airshyplane Unfortunately the Sportster was around for only slightly over one month First flown in April 1931 it crashed in the Saginaw river on May 161931 carrying Joe Behse and meshychanic Whitney Merritt to their deaths

Sometime after the Ford Reliability Air Tour SIN 7 was bought by Erie Isshyland Airlines hopping passengers around the Put-In-Bay area They flew the airplane until just after WW II when it was sold to a company in Wisshyconsin Relatively inactive the wings were damaged in a hangar fire and it later was bought and moved to a mushyseum in Sarasota FL There Fred Clark bought the remains of the plane during the mid 70s

He continued to collect parts as he found out about them and was particushylarly helped by President Bob Taylor of the Antique Airplane Association who had some parts as well as Dave Cleshyvanger who had at one time owned the

airplane and was able to come up with an engine mount and a few other odds and ends

Bud Rogers is also part owner in the Cabinaire and he and his wife Lillian did much of the restoration work New wings had to be rebuilt since the origishynals were damaged in the previously mentioned hangar fire and Buds wife Lillian helped with the stitching chores

The fuselage required work as well including all new wood It was decided that an original Wright J6-5 was to be used putting the airplane in its original configuration The distinctive look of the Cabinaire finally was seen by Anshytique enthusiasts at Sun n Fun 95 More than one of us had to take a peek in US Civil Aircraft by Jos Juptner to refresh our memories about this parshyticular airplane Fred and Bud were kept busy asking questions all day about the Cabinaire and the Curtiss Robin they have re-engined with a Buick V-8

The Cabinaire 165 didnt make it as sales were concerned but as a templeshyscratching I wonder what that is anshytique its a rousing success Thanks to Bud Rogers and Fred Clark the rare cabin biplane with the wing above the fuselage will be puzzling fly-in attenshydees for some time to come

My thanks to Dr William Ballard DDS and Robert Pauley for providshying additional historical background

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bent The pile of parts were hauled back to the railroad shed in Byron and Steve began to think about purchasing one of the surplus airplanes he had seen during his motorcycle trips around the state

Unfortunately no photos or original drawings ex ist of the Hardly Abelson In fact Steve did not talk that much about the airp lan e and rarely menshytioned it during the course of interviews about his life A passing comment about it piqued the interest of a longtime friend artist Pat Packard Pat continshyued to question Steve abo ut the airshyplane and details began to emerge

Steve had remarkable recall about the Hardly Ableson including the dishymensions so the basic outlines of the airplane went down on paper pretty easshyily and then Pat and he began to fill in the details showing him the drawings as time progressed Steve would then comshyment and make corrections on the drawshyings which were complete at the time of Steves death - they were to be signed by him upon his return to Wisconsin

The results are represented by the drawing on pages 16 and 17 This copyshyrighted general arrangement drawing is one of 4 sheets and should be suitable for modeling purposes Readers are cautioned regarding the structural and flight characteristics of the airplane as depicted - no analysis has been done on this airplane in any way and as menshytioned in this article certain aspects run counter to building practices now acshycepted as correct A full size non-flying replica for display in the Wittman Hangar at EAA Pioneer Airport is now being constructed over the next year by Pat Packard who generously allowed the reproduction of this plate so that modelers and historians could gain some insight into the first airplane constructed by the late Steve Wittman

Full size (20x 16) xerographic copies of the four sheets that comprise the documentation drawings by artist Pat Packard are available for $1200 The other three sheets are described on the left side of the drawing

Write to Pat Packard Box 3373 Oshkosh WI 54903-3373

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Just east of the large city of Portland OR is a smaller community named Troutshydale - the name alone conjures up thoughts of patient fishermen beautiful water and interesting shorelines - that was the home of McKinnon Enterprises Inc a company that specialized in converting Grumman amphibians to corporate chariots with imshyproved performance The company headshyquarters was actually at Sandy just down the road a few miles However the main McKinnon Hangar still stands at the Troutshydale Airport

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AI Nordgrens

Grumman G-44 WIDGEON by Norm Petersen

Best Amphibian Award Sun In Fun 1995

Right next to the McKinnon building is a hangar belonging to AI Nordgren of Troutdale who happens to own a beautiful 1943 Grumman G-44 Widgeon N69058 SIN 1291 which was one of the more than fifty that were converted to Super Widshygeons by McKinnon back in the 1950s

Instead of the original six-cylinder inshyline Ranger engines of 200 hp with fixedshypitch wooden propellers the Super Widshygeon has Lycoming GO-480-BID engines of 270 hp swinging three-bladed Hartzell controllable props with full feathering cashy

pabilities In addition it has retractable wingtip floats larger fuel capacity (154 gals) and a beefed up hull and landing gear to handle an increase to 5500 lb gross weight

Just how AI Nordgren ended up with this beautiful amphibian at Sun n Fun 95 and ran off with the Best Amphibian Award is a story in itself AI was born and raised in Troutdale OR and earned his helicopter license when he was 18 years old His father Earl and was also taking helicopter training received his lishy

cense the very same month Moving on to fixed wing aircraft AI has

bought sold and traded numerous mashychines over the years but never a Grumshyman Widgeon - until N69058 came on the scene

The airplane had been advertised in Trade-A-Plane and was located at Arlingshyton WA AI traveled north to Arlington and negotiated the purchase knowing that a great deal of rebuilding work lay ahead

This particular Super Widgeon had been surplused out of the US Navy on Apri l 271947 and was acquired by Lana Kurtzer of Kurtzer Flying Service on beaushytiful Lake Union in Seattle W A It faithshyfully served over forty years in the Seattle area until 1988 when it was sold to a party named Edson who flew the Widgeon up to Sitka Alaska where it served for about three years They brought the o ld girl back to Arlington WA in 1992 where AI purchased the airplane It was in need of considerable help (there were patches on top of patches) The Super Widgeon was dismantled and hauled home on two large trailers to Troutdale where the long road to respectability began

As the airframe was taken apart all meta l was bead blasted to remove old paint and reveal any and all corrosion There was plenty especially where it was not supposed to be However where the rebuilders expected severe corrosion there was often bright shiny aluminum with little or no hint of deterioration Rivshyets by the thousand were drilled out to reshymove aluminum panels as each section of the large fuselage came under scrutiny

Jack Barnes former McKinnon emshyployee was the lead person on the restorashytion and his expertise was shown at many critical times All pieces and parts that measured up for fina l assembly were etched and alodined and then sprayed with a special Boeing primer AI Nordgren says the primer does an excellent job of presershyvation and it also a llows for critical inshyspections in later years that might reveal future corrosion If one paints over the primer with polyurethane the corrosion does not become visib le and is hidden from view - not a comforting thought

New aluminum skins were fabricated and installed on the belly of the fuselage as the old ones had seen better days The enshytire tai lwheel with its strut assembly was dismantled bead blasted and rebuilt with all new moving parts The main landing gears were also taken down bead blasted magnafluxed for internal cracks and then reassembled with all new bolts and fittings In addition new Cleve land wheels and brakes were installed on the gear

Before new sides were installed on the fuselage a 50000 BTU Janitrol heater was installed in the aft fuselage to accommoshydate those cold mornings in places like Alaska AI says this heater has been a real comfort on many occasions The tail feathshy

(Above) The new custom built instrument panel features a center stack of radios and late model instruments Note the cherry wood control wheels with ebony inlaid deshysigns - a touch of real class

(Left) The heart of the McKinnon Widgeon conversion that makes a real hot-rod out of the airplane are these Lycoming GO-480shyB1C engines that crank out 270 hp each at full bore yet the large three-bladed props get a really good bite of air at the reduced propeller speed (Red wing blackbirds also like the Hartzell props)

(Below) With the retractable wingtip floats in the down position AI Nordgren brings the award-winning Widgeon in for a perfect touchdown on the vented step of the hull

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ers of the Widgeon were all rebuilt with new skins installed on the stabilizer The old pieces of aluminum were severely corshyroded The rudder and elevators were cleaned up primed and covered with fabshyric the ribstitching being very close ly spaced for high speed work

Up in the wing center section the enshytire area was opened up bead blasted inshyspected cleaned and then sprayed wit h Boeing primer Long range fuel tanks were installed to bring the fuel capacity to 154 gallons from the original 108 ga ls Uniq ue to the Widgeo n are removab le wing leading edges These were carefully bead blasted and reworked to new condishytion before being primed and reinsta lled

About this time Allocated a new set of landing gear retract mechanisms that had never been installed in an airplane He contacted Sky Control in Sun Valley CA who had built the original gear actuators

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(Above) Turning into the evening sun AI Nordgren brings the Widgeon up close for Jim Koepnicks camera Note his right hand on the dual overhead throtshytles Did you ever notice that a Lycoming GO-480 engine has a smiling face on its front cowl

(Left) Backlit by the sun the familiar shape of a beautiful Grumman amphibshyian is easily identifiable aga inst the darker water

and they were able to supply new actuashytors AIs Good Luck charm came through about this time when Mrs McKinshynon (the widow of A E McKinnon who did all the conversions) called She said the family was selling the airfield and house In the attic there was a bundle of paperwork they were just going to throw out She mentioned Al was welco me to come and rummage through it to see if anything was of use AI says they found all of the origina l stamped FAA Approvals that McKin non had do ne on the various Grumman amphibians A ll of this preshycious materia l was saved and eventually was sent to a museum in Ketchikan Alaska who has charge of the paperwork A ve ry specia l thank you has to be acshyco rded Mrs McKinno n for being savvy enough to call before throwing the ali-imshyportant paperwork in the trash bin

All of the wiring in the entire airplane was replaced to modern standards and a new floor was fabricate d from Boeing composite flooring as used in their airlinshy

ers A new one-piece windshield was inshystalled along wi th a new interior done in lea ther Ultra Suede and cherry wood The colors are light grey grey and wood to really add a touch of class The dual conshytrol yokes are handmade from cherry wood with ebony in lays A custom instrument pane l was fabrica ted to handle all new avionics and instrumentation

Both three-bladed full-feathering Hartzell propellers were sent in for overshyhau l and the left engine a GO-480-B1D Lycoming of 270 hp was majored The right engine had about 1000 hours but checked out in good shape

A major improvement was the installashytio n of retractab le wingfloats on each wingtip These are an STCd installation and are operated by electrical actuators The big advantage is a more efficient wingtip that increases the cruise speed and allows the float to be raised when the wing is passing over a dock or obstruction of some kind Again the important thing to remember is to lower the floats for a water landing lest you run out of wingtip flotashytion when the airplane slows down on the water (An upside down Widgeon is not a very pretty sight)

Another important addition is a spray rail that goes completely around the nose of the fuse lage This neat spray rail was designed by veteran Widgeon guru George Pappas (EAA 4071 AIC 7893) of Anchorage AK and really helps to keep spray off the propellers

Once the airplane was pretty much all assembled and test run it was carefully

prepared for a new paint scheme with all colors done in Sterling polyurethane The base coat is Matterhorn White with the trim done in Scarlet Red Light Grey and Gold Again extreme attention to detail is evident and the beauty of the entire paint scheme accents the classic lines of LeRoy Grummans beautiful Widgeon Needless to say the classy paint job caught the eye of the judges at Sun n Fun and when all the shouting was over Al Nordgren had won the Best Amphibian Award for 1995 with N69058 (Not too shabby for an airshyplane that is 52 years old having been built in 1943)

Following the total restoration which required about two years time many many dollars and untold sore fingers and muscles Al decided to fulfill his lifelong ambition and take the pretty Widgeon to Alaska The trip was nearly six months long and covered the greater part of the huge State of Alaska He spotted polar bears along the icy shores near Kotzebue found moose along the many streams and even located a few grizzly bears On nushymerous occasions his appreciation for the Janitrol heater that was installed during the restoration really came to the fore As Al says It was one of those cases of pershyfect foresight

Working his way down through southshyeast Alaska which is the absolute dominion of the Grumman amphibians Al was able to visit many beautiful areas among the isshylands and waters that have listened to airshyplane engines for nearly eighty years This is where an amphibian especially a hot rod like a McKinnon Super Widgeon reshyally comes into its own Al relates the events of the entire saga with a twinkle in his eye The inflections in his voice let you know it was an unforgettable experience

Running off with the Best Amphibian Award at Sun n Fun 95 was the icing on the cake for Al Nordgren and after flying the beautiful twin for over 300 hours he plans on selling the airplane and moving on to the next project If you are intershyested in learning the details give Al Nordshygren a call at 503-661-8050 Tell him Norm sent you

There are a total of 114 Grumman Wid shygeons remaining on the FAA register includshying eleven of the SCA N Widgeons built in France under license

(Above right) When purchased in Arlingshyton WA the Widgeon was dismantled and the fuselage and engines were careshyfully loaded on a flatbed trailer Note the large augmentor exhaust tubes from the GO-480 engines that add a bit of thrust and help to quiet the big bird

(Right) Rebuilding the fuselage while the left engine is out for overhaul we get an inside look at the aft fuselage where the 50000 BTU Janitrol heater was installed before new metal was riveted back on

Specifications (Before and after)

Super Widgeon Original 1943

Takeoff run sea level GW

Take-off run from glassy water

Rate of climb sea level

Climb to 10000 ft

Cruising speed sea level (75 Power)

Service ceiling

Landing speed

Gross weight

Empty weight

Useful load

600 ft

7 seconds

1750 ft min

1Omin

175 mph

18000 ft

62 mph

5500 Ibs

4016 Ibs

1484 Ibs

895 ft

25 seconds

1 000 ft min

15 min

142 mph

15000 ft

50 mph

4525 Ibs

3240 Ibs

1285 Ibs

EAA has an excellent 80-minute video entitled Advanced Seaplane Flying that is available for $2995 plus S amp H This is in addition to the highlyacshyclaimed Wonderful World of Floats which is the finest 2-hour video availshyable on how to fly floats priced at just $2995 plus S amp H For bargain hunters order the two videos together for just $4995 plus S amp H directly from EAA To order dial 1-800-843-3612

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Vintage Seaplanes

DeHaviliand DHC-2 Beaver on Edo Floats

by Norm Petersen

has th e hangar next to the Kermit Weeks Flight Research Center The pieces were moved to the new owners hangar and the restoration was comshypleted under the direction of Dave Alshygrem John Marks chief mechanic The Beaver was then flown to Camshybridge MN for its new paint job before going to Canada for the installation of floats

The partially restored Beaver is picshytured in the Vette Hangar at EAAs Pishyoneer Airport displaying the valiant efshyforts of the many EAA volunteers The flaps ailerons and tail feathers are on the floor under the fuselage Note the original round window aft of the door that has been replaced by a Kenmore large baggage mod and rectangular winshydow The fuselage just behind the Beaver is EAAs DeHavilland DH-89A Rapide named Sir Robert Puryear in honor of one of the donors longtime EAA director Bob Puryear (EAA 25472 AC 77) of Trinity CA

This very pretty Canadian registered DeHaviliand Beaver C-FRZH mounted on a set of Edo 4930 floats was photographed in front of John Marks Mimminiska Lodge in north central Onshytario Canada The Beaver is used on a daily basis for hauling fishermen to outshylying fishing camps Some trips are made with an aluminum canoe tied to a canoe rack on the float struts

This very airplane was declared surshyplus by the Tennessee Valley Authorshyitya number of years ago and in 1986 was sold (in pieces) to the EAA Aviashy

tion Foundation Bauken Noack of the EAA staff hauled the parts and pieces to Oshkosh WI from Musshycle Shoals AL and the long rebuild was begun mostly with volunteer help With the restoration about half done the Beaver was deshyclared excess to the future needs of EAA and was put up for bids The high bidder was John Mark (EAA 9866 AC 8935) of Oshkosh who

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Stearman C3B on Edo Floats

This sharp photo of a Stearman C3B (NC)5686 SIN 245 mounted on a set of Edo P-3300 float s is from the extensive collection of Stan Gomoll of Blaine MN Powered with a Wright J -5 engine of 220 hp the three-place Stearman C3B made a very respectable seaplane with spritely performance at 2850 lbs gross weight It was certificated on a Group Two Approval number 2-124 dated 9-7-29 The swan logo on the side of the fuselage has Esshycadri lle III printed above it and just forshyward of the lower wing a bomb is painted on the side of the fuselage Note the navishygation lights on the wingtips and top of the rudder

Tom Alsworths Piper PA-11

Pictured on the quiet shore of St James Lake at St James MN is this pretty white and red Piper PA-11 Cub Special N4812M SIN 11-323 mounted on a set of Edo 92-1400 floats Powshyered with a Continental C90-8 engine of 90 hp the PA-11 has been the pride and joy of Tom Alsworth of Fairmont MN for over 25 years Origina lly reshystored from a bent up basket case by Tom and his father the late Lloyd Alsworth veteran instructor FBO and

FAA Designated Flight Examiner from Fairmont MN the PA-11 was mounted on a set of Edo 1400 floats and splashed about the lakes of southern Minnesota for many years

A smiling Tom Alsworth rests on the float of the PA-ll as he contemplates some more water takeoffs and landings Tom is related to the entire community of Port Alsworth Alaska which was started by his uncle Babe Alsworth back in the 1930s

These two photos of the 1929 Sushypermarine Rolls-Royce S6 are from the collection of Stan Gomoll of Blaine MN The first is Sqdn Ldr A H Orlebar AFC Officer Commandshying the High Speed Flight took up each of the racing machines himself on the initial trial flight before handing over to the officers of the team for practice flights He is shown in the pic-

Supermarine Rolls-Royce S6

ture ready to disembark from the mashychine after setting up the new Worlds Record of 3577 mph This same mashychine also won the 1929 Schneider Trophy

The second photo shows the special touring lighter that was built to the orshyder of the Air Ministry to allow th e machine to be towed to sheltered washyter when the conditions rendered it imshy

possible for the slipways to be used for practice and trial flights These lighters were actually used on the day of the Schneider Trophy contest The winshyning and record breaking Supermarine Rolls-Royce S6 is shown on th e lighter which is fitted with a false botshytom running on roilers and the patent winding gear launches it complete with the machine into the water

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PASSd ~BUCK

by Buck Hilbert EAA 21 Ale 5 PO Box 424 Union IL 60180

I just read another antique airplane horror story There is a picture of a beautiful Stearman on its back as a lead-in for the story and as usual in the mass media the writer is far from knowledgeable about airplanes His headline lauds the Forced Landing as being heroic because the pilot missed hitting any buildings or hurting any people

In reality the pilot is probably feelshying pain in his wallet and for a quite a while will be kicking himself for not doing a better job of preflighting the airplane The investigation turned up contaminated fuel as the reason for the off airport landing

Always on the side of th e pilot I did a little research on contamination As far back as 1964 the FAA did some testing on a typical high wing airplane (read Cessna 170) and came up with some very startling results

They added three gallons of water to the half full tanks After a few minshyutes the gascolator was checked for water Guess what They had to drain ten ounces of fuel before any water showed This is considerably more than I or most pilots drain on an ordinary preflight Think about it Ten ounces is just about enough to take you through a fast run up and get well into the takeoff run Whew

They did a second test with the same airplane by leveling it to simushylate level flight The fuel system was cleared of all water This time a galshylon of water was added to the half full tanks Again a check of the gascolashytor didnt show any water until more than a quart of fuel was drained

In each of the tests there was residshyual water in the tanks that couldnt be removed except by draining the fuel tank sumps

The lesson here is that the gascolashy

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tor will do its job once the water gets to it but whats in the lines has to be drained first Also each fuel tank must be turned on to drain the lines to the gascolator The best lessons that came out of these tests were that the fuel tank sump drains will hold the water and they should be drained and checked before the contaminate ever gets to the gascolator

Now if youre lucky enough to have a Champ or a T Cart or even a J-3 Cub type the gascolator IS the sump and you dont have a double check to do but if you do have fuel tank sumps drain them And be generous in the amount you do drain You can always pour it back into the filler hole if its clean And after youve done the tanks then go to the gascolator

Also if you have a belly drain that IS the lowest point in the fuel system so be absolutely certain you do that one too

Dont do this only at preflight ei shyther Do it anytime fuel is added cause it will stir up the bottom and anything there could show in the sumps and eventually work its way into the gascolator Again dont just dribble a little do enough to really check it out And use a container you can actually see the sample in and asshysure yourself its free and clear

Even though all this was done way back in 1964 it holds true today With auto fuel going through the EPA Clean Air convolutions and with all the resultant confusion assure yourshyself that youve got the cleanest fuel system going

Hey Happy flying and its over to you gang

Why Did It Sag Off How to solve a problem with a major overhaul

by Norm Petersen

As you may recall from a write-up in a previous AIC Tidbits the Conshytinental C90-8 engine in my 46 J-3 Cub N10XS had been giving me (and numerous other pilots) fits for the past two years It would run like a charm for hours on end and then suddenly sag off about 200 to 300 rpm It acted like someone pinched the fuel line Yet there seemed to be few repetitive characteristics

From the outside we checked every possible problem area We knew that carburetor heat had no efshyfect on the sagging engine and a switch to individual mags during the rough spots had absolutely no effect either The idea that an exhaust valve was hanging up at times seemed the most logical

We loaded the fuel with Marvel Mystery Oil to lubricate the valve stems No change The next idea was to clean out the carbon with a similar product called SeaFoam Two cans of the stuff were run through the engine with not even a hint of change It still sagged off The idea that it was a stuck valve beshygan to loose its validity

The Annual Inspection produced compression readings of 72 to 76 over 80 for all four jugs The Bendix mags were retimed right to the mark (one was off less than a degree and the other was right on) and the carshyburetor was disassembled cleaned and reassembled with all parts checkshying out perfectly Even the induction system was checked and cleaned and reinstalled with new gaskets (it was possible a leaking gasket was the problem) After the annual a runup was done and then a maintenance check flight No change it still sagged Hurmph This was getting frustrating

About this time the fuel system beshycame suspect so it was completely ta ken apart The flexible line between the carburetor and gascolator was old and partially collapsed This was reshyplaced with no improvement in the sagshyging off Next we checked the gascolashytor sediment bowl It had a tiny bit of stuff in the bottom however when we pulled the brass screen from the top of the gascolator it was covered with a layer of cottonwood seeds about 118 inch thick - a perfect gasket Boy this time we thought we had this one nailed This had to be the source of all our troubles What do you know - on the next flight it sagged off as usual Nuts

In th e cold winter ai r the e ngine would sag off but if you caught it with throttl e soon enough it would come right back On an air-to-air photo misshysion on skis Gene Chase had the enshygine sag off and before he could catch it the engine died He made a successshyful forced landing (the 14th of his cashyreer) in the middle of a plowed field covered with snow - a half mile from the road EAA photographer Donna Bushman was in the back seat After huffing and puffing the half mile to the airplane in snow up to our knees we found Gene and Donna making Anshygels in the snow and giggling with laughter

I pulled the prop through four blades turned on the switch and it started on the first pull Needless to say Gene and Donna took a bunch of teasing and razzing on this episode I flew the Cub back home bending a ski

in the process when I hit a clump of frozen plowing so hard it ratt led my teeth

Through the summer and fa ll the engine was sagging off at an increasing rate the oil consumption was up to one quart per hour and I had the funny feeling that it was time for a top overshyhaul of the four jugs In October we pulled the engine and sent it home with Ted Travis (616-627-6409) of Cheboyshygan MI Ted had just fin ished rebuildshying Gene Chases 145 Warner for his D avis D1-W and I have been a fan of Ted s si nce writing a story about his

In the cold winter air the enshygine would sag off but if you caught it with throttle soon enough it would come right back

beautiful Corben Junior Ace R ag Rose back in 1985 Ted soon had the engine into pieces and parts His phone call was Good News-Bad News The bad news This engine is a bunch of junque The good news We may be able to save the crankshaft

The crankshaft was sent in for overshyhaul and came back with a red tag on it - number three rod journal was cracked

When Ted took the cylinders off and flipped it upside down one of the exshyhaust valve guides fell out on the floor It had been going up and down with the valve and hanging up a t times - which held the exhaust valve open This was the reason for the intermittent sagging off It was readily apparent that the

previous twenty years of towing gliders and eight seasons of seaplaneskiplane use had done the old girl in

A factory new crankshaft from 1963 still in the factory crate and cosmo line was loca ted the crankcase was reshyworked to new specs the rods were reshyworked to new specs and four brand new Superior cylinders complete with all parts were installed In addition a new camshaft lifters lifter bodies and a host of other new parts were installed as Ted carefully rebuilt the engine back to new condition His meticulous attenshytion to detail is something to behold

Besides the basic engine Ted comshypletely overhauled the carburetor carb airbox and both Bendix magnetos along with a new ignition harness To really add the finishing touch he built a new set of eyebrows for the J-3 Cub coolshying system

The engine is finished in gleeming black Imron paint and finished off with brass safety wire It is litera lly too pretty to put out th e re when all the bugs can juice it up When Ted delivshyered the engine to my home (on a beaushytiful2 X 8 wooden stand) he brought along a large box of former engine parts Would you believe that the box weighed within a few pounds of the overhauled engine In fact I could alshymost build a nice snow sled engine with the leftover parts

The bea utiful new engine is now hung in the Cub and it ma kes old N10XS a real hummer again Hallelushyjah Thank you Ted Travis for your patience your diligence and above all your outstanding workmanship

Ahhh the joys of a good perfonning engine

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ystery Plane

adds that the airplane was named for a newspaper cartoon of the time (1928) He also pointed out that at least two were built by Eyerly with reportedly a few more built by amateurs

The specifications were as follows Span 35-6 Length 18-9

The weight of the Whifflehen was approximately 470 lbs and according to the letter and photos published in the APM Bulletin it was built up using steel tubing and cedar spars and ribs An overhead stick controlled the airplane SIN 1 had a 30 hp Szekely for a powerplant while the secshyond Eyerly built airplane had a Continental A-40 Dick

by HG Frautschy

Heres another small aircraft from the pre-war days Take a look at that exhaust system - the tubing bender must have had the day off From the late Own Billmans collection the anshyswer will be published in the November issue of Vintage Airshyplane Answers for that issue must be received no later than September 251995

The May Mystery Plane is an airplane well known to many in the country especially in the great Northwest It seems to be known internationally as well since two of our nine reshysponses were from members outside of the US

Lloyd Willis (EAA 28795 AC 12463)103 Douglas Rd Doonside 2767 NSW Australia writes

As seen in the article (from the APM Bulletin) its the EyeshyrlyWifflehen An unusual name for an attractive plane My interest in vintage aircraft is as a flying scale modeler and to that end does anyone know the colors of the SIN 2 airplane in the photos

You can write to Lloyd directly with your answer and if you are able to come up with the colors please send us a copy of your letter so we can tell everybody else

Ralph Nortell (EAA 8493 AC 4607) Spokane WA

26 AUGUST 1995

Geist the letter writer owns the airshyframe prop and engine of SIN and mentioned that the ultimate fate of SIN 1 is unknown

Correct answers were received from Charley Hayes New Lenox IL Bill Rogers Jacksonville FL Lynn Towns Brooklyn MI Bill Ewertz Sonoma CA Bob Kaelin Riverhead NY Doug Rounds Zebulon GA and Lennart Johnsson Eldsberga Sweden

Lynn Towns asked about the fushyture of Mystery Plane in light of George Hardie s retirement from the column Rest easy Mystery Plane fans - the column is one of our most popular (if not THE most) columns and we plan to continue the Mystery Plane as long as we find airplanes that few people know Which as you can imagine leads us to the next point which is if you have an old picture of an obscure airplane you think would make a good Mystery Plane candidate feel free to send it in to Dennis Parks at the EAA Boeing Aeronautical Library PO Box 3086 Oshkosh WI 54903-3086 We will then have our photo lab make a copy negative of your picture and send you back your origina l should you so deshysire With your help we can continue to send members scurrying off to their bookshelves to look up our obshyscure aircraft every month

Send your Mystery Plane Replies to EAA Headquarters

Vintage Airplane Mystery Plane PO Box 3086

Oshkosh WI 54903-3086

VINTAGE AEROMAIL

(Continued from page 4)

Mr Gassaway and I have discussed your letter to VINTAGE AIRPLANE and th e events and facts mentioned above He is agreeable to receiving any letter or phone call from you regarding this inciden t

I hope the above information is part of what you are looking for

Very truly yours Harvey L Brown (AC 391) P O Box 897 Delray Beach FL 33483-0897

Dear HG

I have a question about an aircraft and maybe one of our readers can anshyswer it

During the spring or summer of 1946 an air show was held at the Mineral Wells Texas airport and a feature was an aerobatic routine by a guy named Doc Estes from Ft Worth His airshycraft was a tiny biplane with a large rashydial engine The announcer said it was a Laird Super Solution It had no inshyverted systems and the engine would cough or die anytime he flew inverted When he tried an Immelmann turn the engine died the aircraft spun in and the pilot perished in the fire that consumed the aircraft

My questions are 1 Was the aircraft actually a Laird

aircraft 2 If it was a Laird aircraft was the

announcer right when he said it was a Super Solution

3 Or was it actually a Laird Solushytion

Ive often wondered about the actual identification of the aircraft and once even thought of asking Matty Laird about it when he was at Oshkosh The press of people there prevented any questions Maybe someone can enshylighten me

Sincerely Wendell L Doc Roy (AC 19307) 520 SCR 5 Ft Collins CO 80524

To H G Frautschy Editor EAA VINTAGE AIRPLANE

Subject Articles on what to examshyine on an antiqueclassic aircraft prior to purchase

Reference Ron M Hynes letter in Aero Mail April 1995 VINTAGE AIRshyPLANE

I fully agree an excellent idea howshyever I would not publish these subject

articles in VINTAGE AIRPLANE If you did publish them therein and

you did not delete some other section of the magazine you would run up your publishing costs hence another inshycrease in dues

Plus there would be a long-time wait between type aircraft My suggestion would be to gather as much information as possible with as many pictures as possible and put all this material in loose-leaf form because as time goes on you would be receiving ne w and upshydated information

You could through the Type Clubs as suggested be gathering information on most a ntiquelclassic aircraft at once-no long-time delays for readers interested in a certain type

Now we would have loose-leaf noteshybooks and those people interested could purchase them from you directly charge them your cost plus shipping and hanshydling or what you think the market will bear In fact first ask the membership If I were in the market for an antiqueclassic airplane this loose-leaf publication would be well worth the cost especially since it could be updated and I could perhaps get a handle on some future problem that may develop with the aircraft I purchased

Roy M Feher (AC 13798) 5241 N Via Sempreverde Tucson AZ 85715-5967

Dear Mr Frautschy

It was with great pleasure that I read your article One of Each Please which appeared in the January 1995 isshysue of VINTAGE AIRPLANE I was particularly struck with the history of this particular airplane having been deshylivered to the Clarksdale School of Avishyation Clarksdale Mississippi and actushyally ending up at Fletcher Field

This was of particular interest to me because this was the school where I atshytended Primary Flight Training in August and September 1942 as part of the second class to attend that school It goes withshyout saying that Clarksdale not having been exposed to service personnel previshyously was an aviation cadet s paradise At that time I attended Fletcher Field in Clarksdale Our equipment was PT-17s and PT-13 Stearmans Not all the conshystruction was complete and for example the Second Stage Building or Ops Shack had not been built at that point

I have for shoe who might be intershyested a book which gives further details and photographs of the staff at that field at that time

Hope you continue the super stories Regards J C (Chuck) Weber (AC 10028) 390 Sixth Street Dover NH 03820-5903

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AUG 20 - BROOKFIELD WI - A IC Chapter 11 10th annua l vintage airplane display and ice cream social noon til 5 pm 4141781-9550 AUG 25-26 - COFFEYVILLE KS shyFunk Owners Assoc Reunion Contact Gene Ventress 9131782-1483 AUG 25-27 - SUSSEX NJ - Sussex air shyport Sussex Airshow 95 Gates open at 8 am show starts at 130 pm For info call 2011875-0783 SEPT 2 - MARION IN - 5th Annual F1yshyIn Cruise-in breakfast sponsored by Marion High School Band Boosters Antiques Classics Homebuilts as well as AntiquelCustom cars welcome For inforshymation contact Ray Johnson 317664shy2588 SEPT S-10 - VALPARAISO IN - EAA Chapter 104 of NW indiana hosts the Trishymotor Stinson for rides during Popcornshyfest at Porter Co Airpor t (VPZ) Winashymack Indian a Old Antique Ca r Club display and pancake breakfast on Sunday For more info call Paul Deopping 2191759shy1714 or Rich Lidke 2191778-2709 SEPT 9-10 - MARION OH - MERFI (Mid-Eastern Regional Fly-In) 513253shy4629 SEPT 9-10 - HAGERSTOWN NJ shyWashington County Airport Fairchild Homecoming and airshow Gates open at 9 am airshow at 1 pm Join Fairchild owners employees and fans to celebrate Fairchilds contributions to aviation For info call 3101745-5708 SEPT 9-10 - SCHENECTADY NY shyCounty airport Northeast Flight 95 Airshow - Sponsored by the Empire State Aeroscience Museum SEPT 10 - MT MORRIS IL - EAA Chapte r 682 and Ogle County Pilots Assoc Fly-In breakfast For info call Bill Sweet at 8151734-4320 or the airport at 8151734-6136 SEPT 10 - VALPARAISO IN (VPZ) shyEAA Chap ter 104 4th annual FlyshyIn Drive- In pancake breakfast Call 2191926-3572 for info SEPT 14-17 - CODY WY - International Cess na 195 Fly-In For info co ntact Springer Jones 50 Schnieder Rd Cody WY 82414 Phone 307587-8059 or Fax 307587-8061 SEPT 15-17 - URBANA IL - The Byron Smith Memorial Stinson Reunion Fly-In Frasca Field Ca ll 3131769-2432 or 708904-6964 SEPT 16-17 - ROCK FALLS IL - North Centrral EAA Old Fashioned Fly-In Whites id e Airport Contact Gregg Erikson 708513-0641 or Dave Chri sti anso n 815625-6556 Pancake Breakfast on Sunday 0700 to 1100 local SEPT 16-17 - ROCK FALLS IL - North Central Regional Fly-In 708513-0642 SEPT 22-23 - BARTLESVILLE OK shy38th Annual Tulsa Regional Fly-In coshysponsored by EAA AIC Chapter 10 EAA lAC chapter 10 AAA Chapter 2 For info call Charlie H arris 918622shy8400 SEPT 22-23 - LOD CA - The Great West

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Fournier 405258-1129 or Bob Kruse 405691-6940 OCT 6-S - EVERGREEN AL - Southshyeast Regional Fly-In 2051765-9109 OCT 6-S - WILMINGTON DE - New Castle Airport EAA East Coast Fly-In 25th anniversary A Gathering of Eashygles WW II victory airshow and Fly-In Special statue dedication in honor of the WASPs of WW II For pilots info pack contact EAA East Coast Fly-In Corp 2602 Elnora St Wheaton MD 20902shy2706 or phone 301942-3309 OCT 6-S - HARTSVILLE SC shyAnnual Fall Fly-In for AntiquelClassic a ircra ft spon sore d by EAA A IC Chapter 3 Awards in all categories For info call or write R Bottom Jr 103 Pwhatan Pky Hampton V A 23661 Fax at 804873-3059 OCT 7-S - RUTLAND VT - Rutland airport Annual Leaf Peepers Fly-In 8shy11am Sponsored by EAA Chapter 968 the Green Mtn Flyers and RAVE (Rutland Area Vehicl e Enthusiasts) Breakfast both days Fly-Market Call Tom Lloyd for info 802492-3647 OCT S - TOMAH WI - Bloyer Field 8th Annual Fly-In breakfast sponsored by EAA Chapter 935 Flea market statshyic displays Call John Brady for info 608372-3125 OCT 12-15 - PHOENIX AZ - Coppershystate Regional Fly-In 6021750-5480 OCT 12-15 - Phoenix AZ - Williams Gatewayairport Luscombe Foundation Southwest gathering For info call the Luscombe Foundation at 602917-0969 OCT 12-15 - MESA AZ - 24th Annual Coppe rs tate Regio nal Fly-In Call 800283-6372 for info pack or if you wish to commercially ex hibit call 5201747-1413 OCT 14-15 - SUSSEX NJ - QuadshyChapter Fly-In F1yfflea-market sponshysored by AIC Chapter 7 EAA Chapters 238 73 and 891 FOr info call Herb D aniel 2011875-9359 or Paul Styger (Sussex airport) 2011702-9719 OCT 20-22 - KERRVILLE TX shySouthwest Regional Fly-In 915 651shy7882

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August 1995 Vol 23 No8

CONTENTS 1 Straight amp Levell

Espie Butch Joyce

2 AlC NewsHG Frautschy

4 Aeromail

5 Life as Viewed through a 140s WindshieldDon Alesi

6 From the ArchivesDennis Parks

10 Steve Wittmans First Airplane shyThe Hardly Ableson HG Frautschy and Pat Packard

12 The Paramount Cabinaire HG Frautschy

16 Steve Wittmans Hardly Ableson Drawing by Pat Packard

18 AI Nordgrens Grumman G-44 WidgeonlNorm Petersen

22 Vintage SeaplanesNorm Petersen

24 Pass it to BucklEE Buck Hilbert

25 Why did it Sag Off Norm Petersen

26 Mystery PlaneHG Frautschy

28 Welcome New Members

29 Calendar

30 Vintage Trader

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Page 18

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FRONT COVER The Paramount Cabinaire a Wolter Carr design from the roaring twenties This particular example the lost one of its type is SIN 7 and has been restored by Fred Clark and Bud Rogers It was the Antique Silver Age (1928-1932) Champion at EM Sun n Fun 95 EM Photo by Jim Koepnick shot with on EOS-IN equipped with a 7D-200mm f28 lens 1125 at fl4 on Kodak Ektachrome Lumiere 100 film Cessna 210 photo plane piloted by Bruce Moore

BACK COVER The Mckinnon conversion of the Grumman G-44 is dubbed the Super Widgeon This Continental 10-540 powered twin was restored by AI Nordgren and it was picked as the Best Amphibian at EM Sun n Fun 95 EM Photo by Jim Koepnick shot with on EOS-IN equipped with a 7D-200mm 128 lens 1250 at f9 on Kodak Ektachrome Lumiere 100 film Cessna 210 photo plane piloted by Bruce Moore

Copyright copy 1995 by the EAA AntiqueClassic Division Inc All rights reserved VINTAGE AIRPlANE (ISSN 0091-6943) is published and owned exclusively by the EM AntiqueClassic Division Inc of the Experimental Aircraft Association and is published monthly at EM Aviation Center 3OIJO Poberezny Rdbull PO Box 3086 Oshkosh Wisconsin 54903-3086 Second Class Postage paid at Oshkosh Wisconsin 54901 and at additional mailing offICes The membership rate for EM AntiqueClassic Division Inc is $2700 for current EM members for 12 month period of which $1500 is for the publication of VINTAGE AIRPLANE Membership is open to all who are interested in aviation POSTMASTER Send address changes to EM AntiqueClassic Division Incbull PO Box 3086 Oshkosh WI 54903-3086 FOREIGN AND APO ADDRESSES - Please allow at least two montha for delivery of VINTAGE AIRPlANE to foreign and APO addresses via surface mail ADVERTISING - AntiqueClassic Division does not guarantee or endorse any product offered through the advertising We invite constructive criticism and welcome any report of inferior merchandise obtained through our advertiSing so that corrective measures can be taken EDITORIAl POUCY Readers are encouraged to submit stories and photographs Policy opinions expressed in erticles are solely those of the authors Responsibility for accuracy in reporting rests entirely wnh the contributor No renumeration is made Material should be sent to Ednor VINTAGE AIRPlANE PO Box 3086 Oshkosh WI 54903-3086 Phone 414426-4800

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Falcon Falcon

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Falcon 1929 NC-257H 193019311932

Falcon 1929 NC-258H 19301931 1932

Falcon 1929 NC-301E 193019311932


Boeing 95 1929 NC-397E 1930

Boeing 95 1929 C-412E 1929

Boeing 95 1929 NC-413E 1932

Boeing 95 1929 C-414E 192919301931 1932

Boeing 95 1929 NC-415E 1932

Boeing 95 1929 NC-417E 19301931 1932

Boeing 95 1928 C-423E 1929193019311932

Boeing 95 1928 C-424E 192919311932

Boeing 95 1929 C-425E 1929193019311932

Boeing 95 1929 C-426E 1929

Douglas M3 1926 C-789 1929

Douglas M4 1926 C-791 192919301931

Douglas M4 1926 C-794 192919301931

Douglas M4 1926 NC-795 1929193019311932

Air King 1929 NC-883H 1930



Douglas M3 1927 C-lOOO 1929193019311932

Douglas M3 1927 C-1001 192919301931

Douglas M3 1927 NC-l003 192919301931

Douglas M4 1926 NC-l060 1929193019311932

Douglas M3 1926 C-l061 1929193019311932

Douglas M4 1926 C-1063 192919301931

Douglas M3 1926 NC-1645 192919301931 1932

Douglas M4 1926 C-1646 1929

Douglas M4 1926 C-1647 1929193019311932

Douglas M3 1926 NC-1649 192919301931

Travel Air 5000 1927 C-3002 19291930

Douglas M4 1928 C-3881 192919301931


Stearman C3MB 1928 C-4552 19301932

Pitcairn PA5 1928 C-5636 1929


Boeing 49B 1927 C-7471 1929


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Ford 5-AT-C 1930 NC-411H 1930193 11932




Ford S-AT-B 1929 NC-9668 19311932





Make Model



Boeing 95 Boeing 95

Boeing 95 Boeing 95



Falcon Falcon

Falcon

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1928 1928 1928 1928

1928 1928

1928 1928

1928 1928 1928 1928

1928 1928 1929

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19291930193 11932 19291930193 1 19291930193 11932

192919301931 1929193019311932

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Falcon 1929 NC-257H 193019311932

Falcon 1929 NC-258H 19301931 1932

Falcon 1929 NC-301E 193019311932


Boeing 95 1929 NC-397E 1930

Boeing 95 1929 C-412E 1929

Boeing 95 1929 NC-413E 1932

Boeing 95 1929 C-414E 192919301931 1932

Boeing 95 1929 NC-415E 1932

Boeing 95 1929 NC-417E 19301931 1932

Boeing 95 1928 C-423E 1929193019311932

Boeing 95 1928 C-424E 192919311932

Boeing 95 1929 C-425E 1929193019311932

Boeing 95 1929 C-426E 1929

Douglas M3 1926 C-789 1929

Douglas M4 1926 C-791 192919301931

Douglas M4 1926 C-794 192919301931

Douglas M4 1926 NC-795 1929193019311932

Air King 1929 NC-883H 1930



Douglas M3 1927 C-lOOO 1929193019311932

Douglas M3 1927 C-1001 192919301931

Douglas M3 1927 NC-l003 192919301931

Douglas M4 1926 NC-l060 1929193019311932

Douglas M3 1926 C-l061 1929193019311932

Douglas M4 1926 C-1063 192919301931

Douglas M3 1926 NC-1645 192919301931 1932

Douglas M4 1926 C-1646 1929

Douglas M4 1926 C-1647 1929193019311932

Douglas M3 1926 NC-1649 192919301931

Travel Air 5000 1927 C-3002 19291930

Douglas M4 1928 C-3881 192919301931


Stearman C3MB 1928 C-4552 19301932

Pitcairn PA5 1928 C-5636 1929


Boeing 49B 1927 C-7471 1929


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10 AUGUST 1995





Steve Wittmans



by Aaron LKing Jr









Martin Wittman












VINTAGE AIRPLANE 11







12 AUGUST 1995

by HG Frautschy










VINTAGE AIRPLANE 13



14 AUGUST 1995






















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 15

t s-CAP s5TP I f





004 - MAT LI-JTMSP

005-PA~



(vAI-OG- WY





o-4P 5T)lIP v-




bull

a T la~

b l -nmiddotls

--=RPM 17-





y I tJ I 12H tgtE k



All Rights Reserved

1-4-2~ ~ ~A6Jf1-~

3 4 S G $ ~ 10 3







STEVE WITTMAN








VINTAGE AIRPLANE 17


18 AUGUST 1995

AI Nordgrens


















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 19




20 AUGUST 1995






















Climb to 10000 ft


Service ceiling

Landing speed

Gross weight

Empty weight

Useful load

600 ft

7 seconds

1750 ft min

1Omin

175 mph

18000 ft

62 mph

5500 Ibs

4016 Ibs

1484 Ibs

895 ft

25 seconds

1 000 ft min

15 min

142 mph

15000 ft

50 mph

4525 Ibs

3240 Ibs

1285 Ibs


VINTAGE AIRPLANE 21

Vintage Seaplanes


by Norm Petersen






22 AUGUST 1995












VINTAGE AIRPLANE 23

PASSd ~BUCK









24 AUGUST 1995








by Norm Petersen




















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 25

ystery Plane




by HG Frautschy







26 AUGUST 1995







VINTAGE AEROMAIL





Dear HG



















Dear Mr Frautschy





VINTAGE AIRPLANE 27












Overland Park KS














Hurst TX ActonCA














DuluthMN Redmond WA










Shelburne VT

28 AUGUST 1995



----------




VINTAGE AIRPLANE 29


EAA VI~TA(3(







AIRCRAFT


MISCELLANEOUS


FOREIGN MEMBERSHIPS



OSHKOSH WI54903-3086 PHONE (414) 426-4800


815-500 MON-FRI 1-800-843-3612








WANTED























800-361-3490 Other Stuff 909-684-4280









RJ Dobbie licldeig


past President


Pilot since 1938








- Dobbie Lickteig









To become an

EAA Antique amp

Classic Division









AlC CHAPTER 29



















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 3

MAIL

Dear Sir-





Gentlemen












Dear Mr Elliott





VINTAGE AIRPLANE 4




















FROM THE ARCHIVES

CURTISS MAIL PLANES

1925-1930




6 AUGUST 1995

o ~ n



VINTAGE AIRPLANE 7




Ford 5-AT-C 1930 NC-411H 1930193 11932




Ford S-AT-B 1929 NC-9668 19311932





Make Model



Boeing 95 Boeing 95

Boeing 95 Boeing 95



Falcon Falcon

Falcon

Year built

1926 1926

1928 1928 1928 1928

1928 1928

1928 1928

1928 1928 1928 1928

1928 1928 1929

1929

Registration Number

C-31 C-3S

C-11 2E NC-183E NC-18S E

NC-187E NC-188E

NC-189 E NC-190E NC-191 E

NC-191E C-208E C-209E

C-210E C-211 E C-212E

NC-2SSH NC-2S6H

Years In Register

1929 19291930

19291930193 11932 1932 1932

1932 1932

1932 1932 19301932

1931 192919301931 1932 192919301931

19291930193 11932 19291930193 1 19291930193 11932

192919301931 1929193019311932

8 AUGUST 1995


Falcon 1929 NC-257H 193019311932

Falcon 1929 NC-258H 19301931 1932

Falcon 1929 NC-301E 193019311932


Boeing 95 1929 NC-397E 1930

Boeing 95 1929 C-412E 1929

Boeing 95 1929 NC-413E 1932

Boeing 95 1929 C-414E 192919301931 1932

Boeing 95 1929 NC-415E 1932

Boeing 95 1929 NC-417E 19301931 1932

Boeing 95 1928 C-423E 1929193019311932

Boeing 95 1928 C-424E 192919311932

Boeing 95 1929 C-425E 1929193019311932

Boeing 95 1929 C-426E 1929

Douglas M3 1926 C-789 1929

Douglas M4 1926 C-791 192919301931

Douglas M4 1926 C-794 192919301931

Douglas M4 1926 NC-795 1929193019311932

Air King 1929 NC-883H 1930



Douglas M3 1927 C-lOOO 1929193019311932

Douglas M3 1927 C-1001 192919301931

Douglas M3 1927 NC-l003 192919301931

Douglas M4 1926 NC-l060 1929193019311932

Douglas M3 1926 C-l061 1929193019311932

Douglas M4 1926 C-1063 192919301931

Douglas M3 1926 NC-1645 192919301931 1932

Douglas M4 1926 C-1646 1929

Douglas M4 1926 C-1647 1929193019311932

Douglas M3 1926 NC-1649 192919301931

Travel Air 5000 1927 C-3002 19291930

Douglas M4 1928 C-3881 192919301931


Stearman C3MB 1928 C-4552 19301932

Pitcairn PA5 1928 C-5636 1929


Boeing 49B 1927 C-7471 1929


~

k4fIshy

VINTAGE AIRPLANE 9




10 AUGUST 1995





Steve Wittmans



by Aaron LKing Jr









Martin Wittman












VINTAGE AIRPLANE 11







12 AUGUST 1995

by HG Frautschy










VINTAGE AIRPLANE 13



14 AUGUST 1995






















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 15

t s-CAP s5TP I f





004 - MAT LI-JTMSP

005-PA~



(vAI-OG- WY





o-4P 5T)lIP v-




bull

a T la~

b l -nmiddotls

--=RPM 17-





y I tJ I 12H tgtE k



All Rights Reserved

1-4-2~ ~ ~A6Jf1-~

3 4 S G $ ~ 10 3







STEVE WITTMAN








VINTAGE AIRPLANE 17


18 AUGUST 1995

AI Nordgrens


















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 19




20 AUGUST 1995






















Climb to 10000 ft


Service ceiling

Landing speed

Gross weight

Empty weight

Useful load

600 ft

7 seconds

1750 ft min

1Omin

175 mph

18000 ft

62 mph

5500 Ibs

4016 Ibs

1484 Ibs

895 ft

25 seconds

1 000 ft min

15 min

142 mph

15000 ft

50 mph

4525 Ibs

3240 Ibs

1285 Ibs


VINTAGE AIRPLANE 21

Vintage Seaplanes


by Norm Petersen






22 AUGUST 1995












VINTAGE AIRPLANE 23

PASSd ~BUCK









24 AUGUST 1995








by Norm Petersen




















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 25

ystery Plane




by HG Frautschy







26 AUGUST 1995







VINTAGE AEROMAIL





Dear HG



















Dear Mr Frautschy





VINTAGE AIRPLANE 27












Overland Park KS














Hurst TX ActonCA














DuluthMN Redmond WA










Shelburne VT

28 AUGUST 1995



----------




VINTAGE AIRPLANE 29


EAA VI~TA(3(







AIRCRAFT


MISCELLANEOUS


FOREIGN MEMBERSHIPS



OSHKOSH WI54903-3086 PHONE (414) 426-4800


815-500 MON-FRI 1-800-843-3612








WANTED























800-361-3490 Other Stuff 909-684-4280









RJ Dobbie licldeig


past President


Pilot since 1938








- Dobbie Lickteig









To become an

EAA Antique amp

Classic Division





MAIL

Dear Sir-





Gentlemen












Dear Mr Elliott





VINTAGE AIRPLANE 4




















FROM THE ARCHIVES

CURTISS MAIL PLANES

1925-1930




6 AUGUST 1995

o ~ n



VINTAGE AIRPLANE 7




Ford 5-AT-C 1930 NC-411H 1930193 11932




Ford S-AT-B 1929 NC-9668 19311932





Make Model



Boeing 95 Boeing 95

Boeing 95 Boeing 95



Falcon Falcon

Falcon

Year built

1926 1926

1928 1928 1928 1928

1928 1928

1928 1928

1928 1928 1928 1928

1928 1928 1929

1929

Registration Number

C-31 C-3S

C-11 2E NC-183E NC-18S E

NC-187E NC-188E

NC-189 E NC-190E NC-191 E

NC-191E C-208E C-209E

C-210E C-211 E C-212E

NC-2SSH NC-2S6H

Years In Register

1929 19291930

19291930193 11932 1932 1932

1932 1932

1932 1932 19301932

1931 192919301931 1932 192919301931

19291930193 11932 19291930193 1 19291930193 11932

192919301931 1929193019311932

8 AUGUST 1995


Falcon 1929 NC-257H 193019311932

Falcon 1929 NC-258H 19301931 1932

Falcon 1929 NC-301E 193019311932


Boeing 95 1929 NC-397E 1930

Boeing 95 1929 C-412E 1929

Boeing 95 1929 NC-413E 1932

Boeing 95 1929 C-414E 192919301931 1932

Boeing 95 1929 NC-415E 1932

Boeing 95 1929 NC-417E 19301931 1932

Boeing 95 1928 C-423E 1929193019311932

Boeing 95 1928 C-424E 192919311932

Boeing 95 1929 C-425E 1929193019311932

Boeing 95 1929 C-426E 1929

Douglas M3 1926 C-789 1929

Douglas M4 1926 C-791 192919301931

Douglas M4 1926 C-794 192919301931

Douglas M4 1926 NC-795 1929193019311932

Air King 1929 NC-883H 1930



Douglas M3 1927 C-lOOO 1929193019311932

Douglas M3 1927 C-1001 192919301931

Douglas M3 1927 NC-l003 192919301931

Douglas M4 1926 NC-l060 1929193019311932

Douglas M3 1926 C-l061 1929193019311932

Douglas M4 1926 C-1063 192919301931

Douglas M3 1926 NC-1645 192919301931 1932

Douglas M4 1926 C-1646 1929

Douglas M4 1926 C-1647 1929193019311932

Douglas M3 1926 NC-1649 192919301931

Travel Air 5000 1927 C-3002 19291930

Douglas M4 1928 C-3881 192919301931


Stearman C3MB 1928 C-4552 19301932

Pitcairn PA5 1928 C-5636 1929


Boeing 49B 1927 C-7471 1929


~

k4fIshy

VINTAGE AIRPLANE 9




10 AUGUST 1995





Steve Wittmans



by Aaron LKing Jr









Martin Wittman












VINTAGE AIRPLANE 11







12 AUGUST 1995

by HG Frautschy










VINTAGE AIRPLANE 13



14 AUGUST 1995






















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 15

t s-CAP s5TP I f





004 - MAT LI-JTMSP

005-PA~



(vAI-OG- WY





o-4P 5T)lIP v-




bull

a T la~

b l -nmiddotls

--=RPM 17-





y I tJ I 12H tgtE k



All Rights Reserved

1-4-2~ ~ ~A6Jf1-~

3 4 S G $ ~ 10 3







STEVE WITTMAN








VINTAGE AIRPLANE 17


18 AUGUST 1995

AI Nordgrens


















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 19




20 AUGUST 1995






















Climb to 10000 ft


Service ceiling

Landing speed

Gross weight

Empty weight

Useful load

600 ft

7 seconds

1750 ft min

1Omin

175 mph

18000 ft

62 mph

5500 Ibs

4016 Ibs

1484 Ibs

895 ft

25 seconds

1 000 ft min

15 min

142 mph

15000 ft

50 mph

4525 Ibs

3240 Ibs

1285 Ibs


VINTAGE AIRPLANE 21

Vintage Seaplanes


by Norm Petersen






22 AUGUST 1995












VINTAGE AIRPLANE 23

PASSd ~BUCK









24 AUGUST 1995








by Norm Petersen




















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 25

ystery Plane




by HG Frautschy







26 AUGUST 1995







VINTAGE AEROMAIL





Dear HG



















Dear Mr Frautschy





VINTAGE AIRPLANE 27












Overland Park KS














Hurst TX ActonCA














DuluthMN Redmond WA










Shelburne VT

28 AUGUST 1995



----------




VINTAGE AIRPLANE 29


EAA VI~TA(3(







AIRCRAFT


MISCELLANEOUS


FOREIGN MEMBERSHIPS



OSHKOSH WI54903-3086 PHONE (414) 426-4800


815-500 MON-FRI 1-800-843-3612








WANTED























800-361-3490 Other Stuff 909-684-4280









RJ Dobbie licldeig


past President


Pilot since 1938








- Dobbie Lickteig









To become an

EAA Antique amp

Classic Division
























FROM THE ARCHIVES

CURTISS MAIL PLANES

1925-1930




6 AUGUST 1995

o ~ n



VINTAGE AIRPLANE 7




Ford 5-AT-C 1930 NC-411H 1930193 11932




Ford S-AT-B 1929 NC-9668 19311932





Make Model



Boeing 95 Boeing 95

Boeing 95 Boeing 95



Falcon Falcon

Falcon

Year built

1926 1926

1928 1928 1928 1928

1928 1928

1928 1928

1928 1928 1928 1928

1928 1928 1929

1929

Registration Number

C-31 C-3S

C-11 2E NC-183E NC-18S E

NC-187E NC-188E

NC-189 E NC-190E NC-191 E

NC-191E C-208E C-209E

C-210E C-211 E C-212E

NC-2SSH NC-2S6H

Years In Register

1929 19291930

19291930193 11932 1932 1932

1932 1932

1932 1932 19301932

1931 192919301931 1932 192919301931

19291930193 11932 19291930193 1 19291930193 11932

192919301931 1929193019311932

8 AUGUST 1995


Falcon 1929 NC-257H 193019311932

Falcon 1929 NC-258H 19301931 1932

Falcon 1929 NC-301E 193019311932


Boeing 95 1929 NC-397E 1930

Boeing 95 1929 C-412E 1929

Boeing 95 1929 NC-413E 1932

Boeing 95 1929 C-414E 192919301931 1932

Boeing 95 1929 NC-415E 1932

Boeing 95 1929 NC-417E 19301931 1932

Boeing 95 1928 C-423E 1929193019311932

Boeing 95 1928 C-424E 192919311932

Boeing 95 1929 C-425E 1929193019311932

Boeing 95 1929 C-426E 1929

Douglas M3 1926 C-789 1929

Douglas M4 1926 C-791 192919301931

Douglas M4 1926 C-794 192919301931

Douglas M4 1926 NC-795 1929193019311932

Air King 1929 NC-883H 1930



Douglas M3 1927 C-lOOO 1929193019311932

Douglas M3 1927 C-1001 192919301931

Douglas M3 1927 NC-l003 192919301931

Douglas M4 1926 NC-l060 1929193019311932

Douglas M3 1926 C-l061 1929193019311932

Douglas M4 1926 C-1063 192919301931

Douglas M3 1926 NC-1645 192919301931 1932

Douglas M4 1926 C-1646 1929

Douglas M4 1926 C-1647 1929193019311932

Douglas M3 1926 NC-1649 192919301931

Travel Air 5000 1927 C-3002 19291930

Douglas M4 1928 C-3881 192919301931


Stearman C3MB 1928 C-4552 19301932

Pitcairn PA5 1928 C-5636 1929


Boeing 49B 1927 C-7471 1929


~

k4fIshy

VINTAGE AIRPLANE 9




10 AUGUST 1995





Steve Wittmans



by Aaron LKing Jr









Martin Wittman












VINTAGE AIRPLANE 11







12 AUGUST 1995

by HG Frautschy










VINTAGE AIRPLANE 13



14 AUGUST 1995






















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 15

t s-CAP s5TP I f





004 - MAT LI-JTMSP

005-PA~



(vAI-OG- WY





o-4P 5T)lIP v-




bull

a T la~

b l -nmiddotls

--=RPM 17-





y I tJ I 12H tgtE k



All Rights Reserved

1-4-2~ ~ ~A6Jf1-~

3 4 S G $ ~ 10 3







STEVE WITTMAN








VINTAGE AIRPLANE 17


18 AUGUST 1995

AI Nordgrens


















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 19




20 AUGUST 1995






















Climb to 10000 ft


Service ceiling

Landing speed

Gross weight

Empty weight

Useful load

600 ft

7 seconds

1750 ft min

1Omin

175 mph

18000 ft

62 mph

5500 Ibs

4016 Ibs

1484 Ibs

895 ft

25 seconds

1 000 ft min

15 min

142 mph

15000 ft

50 mph

4525 Ibs

3240 Ibs

1285 Ibs


VINTAGE AIRPLANE 21

Vintage Seaplanes


by Norm Petersen






22 AUGUST 1995












VINTAGE AIRPLANE 23

PASSd ~BUCK









24 AUGUST 1995








by Norm Petersen




















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 25

ystery Plane




by HG Frautschy







26 AUGUST 1995







VINTAGE AEROMAIL





Dear HG



















Dear Mr Frautschy





VINTAGE AIRPLANE 27












Overland Park KS














Hurst TX ActonCA














DuluthMN Redmond WA










Shelburne VT

28 AUGUST 1995



----------




VINTAGE AIRPLANE 29


EAA VI~TA(3(







AIRCRAFT


MISCELLANEOUS


FOREIGN MEMBERSHIPS



OSHKOSH WI54903-3086 PHONE (414) 426-4800


815-500 MON-FRI 1-800-843-3612








WANTED























800-361-3490 Other Stuff 909-684-4280









RJ Dobbie licldeig


past President


Pilot since 1938








- Dobbie Lickteig









To become an

EAA Antique amp

Classic Division





FROM THE ARCHIVES

CURTISS MAIL PLANES

1925-1930




6 AUGUST 1995

o ~ n



VINTAGE AIRPLANE 7




Ford 5-AT-C 1930 NC-411H 1930193 11932




Ford S-AT-B 1929 NC-9668 19311932





Make Model



Boeing 95 Boeing 95

Boeing 95 Boeing 95



Falcon Falcon

Falcon

Year built

1926 1926

1928 1928 1928 1928

1928 1928

1928 1928

1928 1928 1928 1928

1928 1928 1929

1929

Registration Number

C-31 C-3S

C-11 2E NC-183E NC-18S E

NC-187E NC-188E

NC-189 E NC-190E NC-191 E

NC-191E C-208E C-209E

C-210E C-211 E C-212E

NC-2SSH NC-2S6H

Years In Register

1929 19291930

19291930193 11932 1932 1932

1932 1932

1932 1932 19301932

1931 192919301931 1932 192919301931

19291930193 11932 19291930193 1 19291930193 11932

192919301931 1929193019311932

8 AUGUST 1995


Falcon 1929 NC-257H 193019311932

Falcon 1929 NC-258H 19301931 1932

Falcon 1929 NC-301E 193019311932


Boeing 95 1929 NC-397E 1930

Boeing 95 1929 C-412E 1929

Boeing 95 1929 NC-413E 1932

Boeing 95 1929 C-414E 192919301931 1932

Boeing 95 1929 NC-415E 1932

Boeing 95 1929 NC-417E 19301931 1932

Boeing 95 1928 C-423E 1929193019311932

Boeing 95 1928 C-424E 192919311932

Boeing 95 1929 C-425E 1929193019311932

Boeing 95 1929 C-426E 1929

Douglas M3 1926 C-789 1929

Douglas M4 1926 C-791 192919301931

Douglas M4 1926 C-794 192919301931

Douglas M4 1926 NC-795 1929193019311932

Air King 1929 NC-883H 1930



Douglas M3 1927 C-lOOO 1929193019311932

Douglas M3 1927 C-1001 192919301931

Douglas M3 1927 NC-l003 192919301931

Douglas M4 1926 NC-l060 1929193019311932

Douglas M3 1926 C-l061 1929193019311932

Douglas M4 1926 C-1063 192919301931

Douglas M3 1926 NC-1645 192919301931 1932

Douglas M4 1926 C-1646 1929

Douglas M4 1926 C-1647 1929193019311932

Douglas M3 1926 NC-1649 192919301931

Travel Air 5000 1927 C-3002 19291930

Douglas M4 1928 C-3881 192919301931


Stearman C3MB 1928 C-4552 19301932

Pitcairn PA5 1928 C-5636 1929


Boeing 49B 1927 C-7471 1929


~

k4fIshy

VINTAGE AIRPLANE 9




10 AUGUST 1995





Steve Wittmans



by Aaron LKing Jr









Martin Wittman












VINTAGE AIRPLANE 11







12 AUGUST 1995

by HG Frautschy










VINTAGE AIRPLANE 13



14 AUGUST 1995






















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 15

t s-CAP s5TP I f





004 - MAT LI-JTMSP

005-PA~



(vAI-OG- WY





o-4P 5T)lIP v-




bull

a T la~

b l -nmiddotls

--=RPM 17-





y I tJ I 12H tgtE k



All Rights Reserved

1-4-2~ ~ ~A6Jf1-~

3 4 S G $ ~ 10 3







STEVE WITTMAN








VINTAGE AIRPLANE 17


18 AUGUST 1995

AI Nordgrens


















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 19




20 AUGUST 1995






















Climb to 10000 ft


Service ceiling

Landing speed

Gross weight

Empty weight

Useful load

600 ft

7 seconds

1750 ft min

1Omin

175 mph

18000 ft

62 mph

5500 Ibs

4016 Ibs

1484 Ibs

895 ft

25 seconds

1 000 ft min

15 min

142 mph

15000 ft

50 mph

4525 Ibs

3240 Ibs

1285 Ibs


VINTAGE AIRPLANE 21

Vintage Seaplanes


by Norm Petersen






22 AUGUST 1995












VINTAGE AIRPLANE 23

PASSd ~BUCK









24 AUGUST 1995








by Norm Petersen




















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 25

ystery Plane




by HG Frautschy







26 AUGUST 1995







VINTAGE AEROMAIL





Dear HG



















Dear Mr Frautschy





VINTAGE AIRPLANE 27












Overland Park KS














Hurst TX ActonCA














DuluthMN Redmond WA










Shelburne VT

28 AUGUST 1995



----------




VINTAGE AIRPLANE 29


EAA VI~TA(3(







AIRCRAFT


MISCELLANEOUS


FOREIGN MEMBERSHIPS



OSHKOSH WI54903-3086 PHONE (414) 426-4800


815-500 MON-FRI 1-800-843-3612








WANTED























800-361-3490 Other Stuff 909-684-4280









RJ Dobbie licldeig


past President


Pilot since 1938








- Dobbie Lickteig









To become an

EAA Antique amp

Classic Division





o ~ n



VINTAGE AIRPLANE 7




Ford 5-AT-C 1930 NC-411H 1930193 11932




Ford S-AT-B 1929 NC-9668 19311932





Make Model



Boeing 95 Boeing 95

Boeing 95 Boeing 95



Falcon Falcon

Falcon

Year built

1926 1926

1928 1928 1928 1928

1928 1928

1928 1928

1928 1928 1928 1928

1928 1928 1929

1929

Registration Number

C-31 C-3S

C-11 2E NC-183E NC-18S E

NC-187E NC-188E

NC-189 E NC-190E NC-191 E

NC-191E C-208E C-209E

C-210E C-211 E C-212E

NC-2SSH NC-2S6H

Years In Register

1929 19291930

19291930193 11932 1932 1932

1932 1932

1932 1932 19301932

1931 192919301931 1932 192919301931

19291930193 11932 19291930193 1 19291930193 11932

192919301931 1929193019311932

8 AUGUST 1995


Falcon 1929 NC-257H 193019311932

Falcon 1929 NC-258H 19301931 1932

Falcon 1929 NC-301E 193019311932


Boeing 95 1929 NC-397E 1930

Boeing 95 1929 C-412E 1929

Boeing 95 1929 NC-413E 1932

Boeing 95 1929 C-414E 192919301931 1932

Boeing 95 1929 NC-415E 1932

Boeing 95 1929 NC-417E 19301931 1932

Boeing 95 1928 C-423E 1929193019311932

Boeing 95 1928 C-424E 192919311932

Boeing 95 1929 C-425E 1929193019311932

Boeing 95 1929 C-426E 1929

Douglas M3 1926 C-789 1929

Douglas M4 1926 C-791 192919301931

Douglas M4 1926 C-794 192919301931

Douglas M4 1926 NC-795 1929193019311932

Air King 1929 NC-883H 1930



Douglas M3 1927 C-lOOO 1929193019311932

Douglas M3 1927 C-1001 192919301931

Douglas M3 1927 NC-l003 192919301931

Douglas M4 1926 NC-l060 1929193019311932

Douglas M3 1926 C-l061 1929193019311932

Douglas M4 1926 C-1063 192919301931

Douglas M3 1926 NC-1645 192919301931 1932

Douglas M4 1926 C-1646 1929

Douglas M4 1926 C-1647 1929193019311932

Douglas M3 1926 NC-1649 192919301931

Travel Air 5000 1927 C-3002 19291930

Douglas M4 1928 C-3881 192919301931


Stearman C3MB 1928 C-4552 19301932

Pitcairn PA5 1928 C-5636 1929


Boeing 49B 1927 C-7471 1929


~

k4fIshy

VINTAGE AIRPLANE 9




10 AUGUST 1995





Steve Wittmans



by Aaron LKing Jr









Martin Wittman












VINTAGE AIRPLANE 11







12 AUGUST 1995

by HG Frautschy










VINTAGE AIRPLANE 13



14 AUGUST 1995






















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 15

t s-CAP s5TP I f





004 - MAT LI-JTMSP

005-PA~



(vAI-OG- WY





o-4P 5T)lIP v-




bull

a T la~

b l -nmiddotls

--=RPM 17-





y I tJ I 12H tgtE k



All Rights Reserved

1-4-2~ ~ ~A6Jf1-~

3 4 S G $ ~ 10 3







STEVE WITTMAN








VINTAGE AIRPLANE 17


18 AUGUST 1995

AI Nordgrens


















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 19




20 AUGUST 1995






















Climb to 10000 ft


Service ceiling

Landing speed

Gross weight

Empty weight

Useful load

600 ft

7 seconds

1750 ft min

1Omin

175 mph

18000 ft

62 mph

5500 Ibs

4016 Ibs

1484 Ibs

895 ft

25 seconds

1 000 ft min

15 min

142 mph

15000 ft

50 mph

4525 Ibs

3240 Ibs

1285 Ibs


VINTAGE AIRPLANE 21

Vintage Seaplanes


by Norm Petersen






22 AUGUST 1995












VINTAGE AIRPLANE 23

PASSd ~BUCK









24 AUGUST 1995








by Norm Petersen




















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 25

ystery Plane




by HG Frautschy







26 AUGUST 1995







VINTAGE AEROMAIL





Dear HG



















Dear Mr Frautschy





VINTAGE AIRPLANE 27












Overland Park KS














Hurst TX ActonCA














DuluthMN Redmond WA










Shelburne VT

28 AUGUST 1995



----------




VINTAGE AIRPLANE 29


EAA VI~TA(3(







AIRCRAFT


MISCELLANEOUS


FOREIGN MEMBERSHIPS



OSHKOSH WI54903-3086 PHONE (414) 426-4800


815-500 MON-FRI 1-800-843-3612








WANTED























800-361-3490 Other Stuff 909-684-4280









RJ Dobbie licldeig


past President


Pilot since 1938








- Dobbie Lickteig









To become an

EAA Antique amp

Classic Division








Ford 5-AT-C 1930 NC-411H 1930193 11932




Ford S-AT-B 1929 NC-9668 19311932





Make Model



Boeing 95 Boeing 95

Boeing 95 Boeing 95



Falcon Falcon

Falcon

Year built

1926 1926

1928 1928 1928 1928

1928 1928

1928 1928

1928 1928 1928 1928

1928 1928 1929

1929

Registration Number

C-31 C-3S

C-11 2E NC-183E NC-18S E

NC-187E NC-188E

NC-189 E NC-190E NC-191 E

NC-191E C-208E C-209E

C-210E C-211 E C-212E

NC-2SSH NC-2S6H

Years In Register

1929 19291930

19291930193 11932 1932 1932

1932 1932

1932 1932 19301932

1931 192919301931 1932 192919301931

19291930193 11932 19291930193 1 19291930193 11932

192919301931 1929193019311932

8 AUGUST 1995


Falcon 1929 NC-257H 193019311932

Falcon 1929 NC-258H 19301931 1932

Falcon 1929 NC-301E 193019311932


Boeing 95 1929 NC-397E 1930

Boeing 95 1929 C-412E 1929

Boeing 95 1929 NC-413E 1932

Boeing 95 1929 C-414E 192919301931 1932

Boeing 95 1929 NC-415E 1932

Boeing 95 1929 NC-417E 19301931 1932

Boeing 95 1928 C-423E 1929193019311932

Boeing 95 1928 C-424E 192919311932

Boeing 95 1929 C-425E 1929193019311932

Boeing 95 1929 C-426E 1929

Douglas M3 1926 C-789 1929

Douglas M4 1926 C-791 192919301931

Douglas M4 1926 C-794 192919301931

Douglas M4 1926 NC-795 1929193019311932

Air King 1929 NC-883H 1930



Douglas M3 1927 C-lOOO 1929193019311932

Douglas M3 1927 C-1001 192919301931

Douglas M3 1927 NC-l003 192919301931

Douglas M4 1926 NC-l060 1929193019311932

Douglas M3 1926 C-l061 1929193019311932

Douglas M4 1926 C-1063 192919301931

Douglas M3 1926 NC-1645 192919301931 1932

Douglas M4 1926 C-1646 1929

Douglas M4 1926 C-1647 1929193019311932

Douglas M3 1926 NC-1649 192919301931

Travel Air 5000 1927 C-3002 19291930

Douglas M4 1928 C-3881 192919301931


Stearman C3MB 1928 C-4552 19301932

Pitcairn PA5 1928 C-5636 1929


Boeing 49B 1927 C-7471 1929


~

k4fIshy

VINTAGE AIRPLANE 9




10 AUGUST 1995





Steve Wittmans



by Aaron LKing Jr









Martin Wittman












VINTAGE AIRPLANE 11







12 AUGUST 1995

by HG Frautschy










VINTAGE AIRPLANE 13



14 AUGUST 1995






















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 15

t s-CAP s5TP I f





004 - MAT LI-JTMSP

005-PA~



(vAI-OG- WY





o-4P 5T)lIP v-




bull

a T la~

b l -nmiddotls

--=RPM 17-





y I tJ I 12H tgtE k



All Rights Reserved

1-4-2~ ~ ~A6Jf1-~

3 4 S G $ ~ 10 3







STEVE WITTMAN








VINTAGE AIRPLANE 17


18 AUGUST 1995

AI Nordgrens


















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 19




20 AUGUST 1995






















Climb to 10000 ft


Service ceiling

Landing speed

Gross weight

Empty weight

Useful load

600 ft

7 seconds

1750 ft min

1Omin

175 mph

18000 ft

62 mph

5500 Ibs

4016 Ibs

1484 Ibs

895 ft

25 seconds

1 000 ft min

15 min

142 mph

15000 ft

50 mph

4525 Ibs

3240 Ibs

1285 Ibs


VINTAGE AIRPLANE 21

Vintage Seaplanes


by Norm Petersen






22 AUGUST 1995












VINTAGE AIRPLANE 23

PASSd ~BUCK









24 AUGUST 1995








by Norm Petersen




















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 25

ystery Plane




by HG Frautschy







26 AUGUST 1995







VINTAGE AEROMAIL





Dear HG



















Dear Mr Frautschy





VINTAGE AIRPLANE 27












Overland Park KS














Hurst TX ActonCA














DuluthMN Redmond WA










Shelburne VT

28 AUGUST 1995



----------




VINTAGE AIRPLANE 29


EAA VI~TA(3(







AIRCRAFT


MISCELLANEOUS


FOREIGN MEMBERSHIPS



OSHKOSH WI54903-3086 PHONE (414) 426-4800


815-500 MON-FRI 1-800-843-3612








WANTED























800-361-3490 Other Stuff 909-684-4280









RJ Dobbie licldeig


past President


Pilot since 1938








- Dobbie Lickteig









To become an

EAA Antique amp

Classic Division






Falcon 1929 NC-257H 193019311932

Falcon 1929 NC-258H 19301931 1932

Falcon 1929 NC-301E 193019311932


Boeing 95 1929 NC-397E 1930

Boeing 95 1929 C-412E 1929

Boeing 95 1929 NC-413E 1932

Boeing 95 1929 C-414E 192919301931 1932

Boeing 95 1929 NC-415E 1932

Boeing 95 1929 NC-417E 19301931 1932

Boeing 95 1928 C-423E 1929193019311932

Boeing 95 1928 C-424E 192919311932

Boeing 95 1929 C-425E 1929193019311932

Boeing 95 1929 C-426E 1929

Douglas M3 1926 C-789 1929

Douglas M4 1926 C-791 192919301931

Douglas M4 1926 C-794 192919301931

Douglas M4 1926 NC-795 1929193019311932

Air King 1929 NC-883H 1930



Douglas M3 1927 C-lOOO 1929193019311932

Douglas M3 1927 C-1001 192919301931

Douglas M3 1927 NC-l003 192919301931

Douglas M4 1926 NC-l060 1929193019311932

Douglas M3 1926 C-l061 1929193019311932

Douglas M4 1926 C-1063 192919301931

Douglas M3 1926 NC-1645 192919301931 1932

Douglas M4 1926 C-1646 1929

Douglas M4 1926 C-1647 1929193019311932

Douglas M3 1926 NC-1649 192919301931

Travel Air 5000 1927 C-3002 19291930

Douglas M4 1928 C-3881 192919301931


Stearman C3MB 1928 C-4552 19301932

Pitcairn PA5 1928 C-5636 1929


Boeing 49B 1927 C-7471 1929


~

k4fIshy

VINTAGE AIRPLANE 9




10 AUGUST 1995





Steve Wittmans



by Aaron LKing Jr









Martin Wittman












VINTAGE AIRPLANE 11







12 AUGUST 1995

by HG Frautschy










VINTAGE AIRPLANE 13



14 AUGUST 1995






















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 15

t s-CAP s5TP I f





004 - MAT LI-JTMSP

005-PA~



(vAI-OG- WY





o-4P 5T)lIP v-




bull

a T la~

b l -nmiddotls

--=RPM 17-





y I tJ I 12H tgtE k



All Rights Reserved

1-4-2~ ~ ~A6Jf1-~

3 4 S G $ ~ 10 3







STEVE WITTMAN








VINTAGE AIRPLANE 17


18 AUGUST 1995

AI Nordgrens


















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 19




20 AUGUST 1995






















Climb to 10000 ft


Service ceiling

Landing speed

Gross weight

Empty weight

Useful load

600 ft

7 seconds

1750 ft min

1Omin

175 mph

18000 ft

62 mph

5500 Ibs

4016 Ibs

1484 Ibs

895 ft

25 seconds

1 000 ft min

15 min

142 mph

15000 ft

50 mph

4525 Ibs

3240 Ibs

1285 Ibs


VINTAGE AIRPLANE 21

Vintage Seaplanes


by Norm Petersen






22 AUGUST 1995












VINTAGE AIRPLANE 23

PASSd ~BUCK









24 AUGUST 1995








by Norm Petersen




















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 25

ystery Plane




by HG Frautschy







26 AUGUST 1995







VINTAGE AEROMAIL





Dear HG



















Dear Mr Frautschy





VINTAGE AIRPLANE 27












Overland Park KS














Hurst TX ActonCA














DuluthMN Redmond WA










Shelburne VT

28 AUGUST 1995



----------




VINTAGE AIRPLANE 29


EAA VI~TA(3(







AIRCRAFT


MISCELLANEOUS


FOREIGN MEMBERSHIPS



OSHKOSH WI54903-3086 PHONE (414) 426-4800


815-500 MON-FRI 1-800-843-3612








WANTED























800-361-3490 Other Stuff 909-684-4280









RJ Dobbie licldeig


past President


Pilot since 1938








- Dobbie Lickteig









To become an

EAA Antique amp

Classic Division








10 AUGUST 1995





Steve Wittmans



by Aaron LKing Jr









Martin Wittman












VINTAGE AIRPLANE 11







12 AUGUST 1995

by HG Frautschy










VINTAGE AIRPLANE 13



14 AUGUST 1995






















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 15

t s-CAP s5TP I f





004 - MAT LI-JTMSP

005-PA~



(vAI-OG- WY





o-4P 5T)lIP v-




bull

a T la~

b l -nmiddotls

--=RPM 17-





y I tJ I 12H tgtE k



All Rights Reserved

1-4-2~ ~ ~A6Jf1-~

3 4 S G $ ~ 10 3







STEVE WITTMAN








VINTAGE AIRPLANE 17


18 AUGUST 1995

AI Nordgrens


















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 19




20 AUGUST 1995






















Climb to 10000 ft


Service ceiling

Landing speed

Gross weight

Empty weight

Useful load

600 ft

7 seconds

1750 ft min

1Omin

175 mph

18000 ft

62 mph

5500 Ibs

4016 Ibs

1484 Ibs

895 ft

25 seconds

1 000 ft min

15 min

142 mph

15000 ft

50 mph

4525 Ibs

3240 Ibs

1285 Ibs


VINTAGE AIRPLANE 21

Vintage Seaplanes


by Norm Petersen






22 AUGUST 1995












VINTAGE AIRPLANE 23

PASSd ~BUCK









24 AUGUST 1995








by Norm Petersen




















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 25

ystery Plane




by HG Frautschy







26 AUGUST 1995







VINTAGE AEROMAIL





Dear HG



















Dear Mr Frautschy





VINTAGE AIRPLANE 27












Overland Park KS














Hurst TX ActonCA














DuluthMN Redmond WA










Shelburne VT

28 AUGUST 1995



----------




VINTAGE AIRPLANE 29


EAA VI~TA(3(







AIRCRAFT


MISCELLANEOUS


FOREIGN MEMBERSHIPS



OSHKOSH WI54903-3086 PHONE (414) 426-4800


815-500 MON-FRI 1-800-843-3612








WANTED























800-361-3490 Other Stuff 909-684-4280









RJ Dobbie licldeig


past President


Pilot since 1938








- Dobbie Lickteig









To become an

EAA Antique amp

Classic Division










Martin Wittman












VINTAGE AIRPLANE 11







12 AUGUST 1995

by HG Frautschy










VINTAGE AIRPLANE 13



14 AUGUST 1995






















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 15

t s-CAP s5TP I f





004 - MAT LI-JTMSP

005-PA~



(vAI-OG- WY





o-4P 5T)lIP v-




bull

a T la~

b l -nmiddotls

--=RPM 17-





y I tJ I 12H tgtE k



All Rights Reserved

1-4-2~ ~ ~A6Jf1-~

3 4 S G $ ~ 10 3







STEVE WITTMAN








VINTAGE AIRPLANE 17


18 AUGUST 1995

AI Nordgrens


















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 19




20 AUGUST 1995






















Climb to 10000 ft


Service ceiling

Landing speed

Gross weight

Empty weight

Useful load

600 ft

7 seconds

1750 ft min

1Omin

175 mph

18000 ft

62 mph

5500 Ibs

4016 Ibs

1484 Ibs

895 ft

25 seconds

1 000 ft min

15 min

142 mph

15000 ft

50 mph

4525 Ibs

3240 Ibs

1285 Ibs


VINTAGE AIRPLANE 21

Vintage Seaplanes


by Norm Petersen






22 AUGUST 1995












VINTAGE AIRPLANE 23

PASSd ~BUCK









24 AUGUST 1995








by Norm Petersen




















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 25

ystery Plane




by HG Frautschy







26 AUGUST 1995







VINTAGE AEROMAIL





Dear HG



















Dear Mr Frautschy





VINTAGE AIRPLANE 27












Overland Park KS














Hurst TX ActonCA














DuluthMN Redmond WA










Shelburne VT

28 AUGUST 1995



----------




VINTAGE AIRPLANE 29


EAA VI~TA(3(







AIRCRAFT


MISCELLANEOUS


FOREIGN MEMBERSHIPS



OSHKOSH WI54903-3086 PHONE (414) 426-4800


815-500 MON-FRI 1-800-843-3612








WANTED























800-361-3490 Other Stuff 909-684-4280









RJ Dobbie licldeig


past President


Pilot since 1938








- Dobbie Lickteig









To become an

EAA Antique amp

Classic Division











12 AUGUST 1995

by HG Frautschy










VINTAGE AIRPLANE 13



14 AUGUST 1995






















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 15

t s-CAP s5TP I f





004 - MAT LI-JTMSP

005-PA~



(vAI-OG- WY





o-4P 5T)lIP v-




bull

a T la~

b l -nmiddotls

--=RPM 17-





y I tJ I 12H tgtE k



All Rights Reserved

1-4-2~ ~ ~A6Jf1-~

3 4 S G $ ~ 10 3







STEVE WITTMAN








VINTAGE AIRPLANE 17


18 AUGUST 1995

AI Nordgrens


















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 19




20 AUGUST 1995






















Climb to 10000 ft


Service ceiling

Landing speed

Gross weight

Empty weight

Useful load

600 ft

7 seconds

1750 ft min

1Omin

175 mph

18000 ft

62 mph

5500 Ibs

4016 Ibs

1484 Ibs

895 ft

25 seconds

1 000 ft min

15 min

142 mph

15000 ft

50 mph

4525 Ibs

3240 Ibs

1285 Ibs


VINTAGE AIRPLANE 21

Vintage Seaplanes


by Norm Petersen






22 AUGUST 1995












VINTAGE AIRPLANE 23

PASSd ~BUCK









24 AUGUST 1995








by Norm Petersen




















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 25

ystery Plane




by HG Frautschy







26 AUGUST 1995







VINTAGE AEROMAIL





Dear HG



















Dear Mr Frautschy





VINTAGE AIRPLANE 27












Overland Park KS














Hurst TX ActonCA














DuluthMN Redmond WA










Shelburne VT

28 AUGUST 1995



----------




VINTAGE AIRPLANE 29


EAA VI~TA(3(







AIRCRAFT


MISCELLANEOUS


FOREIGN MEMBERSHIPS



OSHKOSH WI54903-3086 PHONE (414) 426-4800


815-500 MON-FRI 1-800-843-3612








WANTED























800-361-3490 Other Stuff 909-684-4280









RJ Dobbie licldeig


past President


Pilot since 1938








- Dobbie Lickteig









To become an

EAA Antique amp

Classic Division








VINTAGE AIRPLANE 13



14 AUGUST 1995






















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 15

t s-CAP s5TP I f





004 - MAT LI-JTMSP

005-PA~



(vAI-OG- WY





o-4P 5T)lIP v-




bull

a T la~

b l -nmiddotls

--=RPM 17-





y I tJ I 12H tgtE k



All Rights Reserved

1-4-2~ ~ ~A6Jf1-~

3 4 S G $ ~ 10 3







STEVE WITTMAN








VINTAGE AIRPLANE 17


18 AUGUST 1995

AI Nordgrens


















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 19




20 AUGUST 1995






















Climb to 10000 ft


Service ceiling

Landing speed

Gross weight

Empty weight

Useful load

600 ft

7 seconds

1750 ft min

1Omin

175 mph

18000 ft

62 mph

5500 Ibs

4016 Ibs

1484 Ibs

895 ft

25 seconds

1 000 ft min

15 min

142 mph

15000 ft

50 mph

4525 Ibs

3240 Ibs

1285 Ibs


VINTAGE AIRPLANE 21

Vintage Seaplanes


by Norm Petersen






22 AUGUST 1995












VINTAGE AIRPLANE 23

PASSd ~BUCK









24 AUGUST 1995








by Norm Petersen




















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 25

ystery Plane




by HG Frautschy







26 AUGUST 1995







VINTAGE AEROMAIL





Dear HG



















Dear Mr Frautschy





VINTAGE AIRPLANE 27












Overland Park KS














Hurst TX ActonCA














DuluthMN Redmond WA










Shelburne VT

28 AUGUST 1995



----------




VINTAGE AIRPLANE 29


EAA VI~TA(3(







AIRCRAFT


MISCELLANEOUS


FOREIGN MEMBERSHIPS



OSHKOSH WI54903-3086 PHONE (414) 426-4800


815-500 MON-FRI 1-800-843-3612








WANTED























800-361-3490 Other Stuff 909-684-4280









RJ Dobbie licldeig


past President


Pilot since 1938








- Dobbie Lickteig









To become an

EAA Antique amp

Classic Division







14 AUGUST 1995






















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 15

t s-CAP s5TP I f





004 - MAT LI-JTMSP

005-PA~



(vAI-OG- WY





o-4P 5T)lIP v-




bull

a T la~

b l -nmiddotls

--=RPM 17-





y I tJ I 12H tgtE k



All Rights Reserved

1-4-2~ ~ ~A6Jf1-~

3 4 S G $ ~ 10 3







STEVE WITTMAN








VINTAGE AIRPLANE 17


18 AUGUST 1995

AI Nordgrens


















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 19




20 AUGUST 1995






















Climb to 10000 ft


Service ceiling

Landing speed

Gross weight

Empty weight

Useful load

600 ft

7 seconds

1750 ft min

1Omin

175 mph

18000 ft

62 mph

5500 Ibs

4016 Ibs

1484 Ibs

895 ft

25 seconds

1 000 ft min

15 min

142 mph

15000 ft

50 mph

4525 Ibs

3240 Ibs

1285 Ibs


VINTAGE AIRPLANE 21

Vintage Seaplanes


by Norm Petersen






22 AUGUST 1995












VINTAGE AIRPLANE 23

PASSd ~BUCK









24 AUGUST 1995








by Norm Petersen




















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 25

ystery Plane




by HG Frautschy







26 AUGUST 1995







VINTAGE AEROMAIL





Dear HG



















Dear Mr Frautschy





VINTAGE AIRPLANE 27












Overland Park KS














Hurst TX ActonCA














DuluthMN Redmond WA










Shelburne VT

28 AUGUST 1995



----------




VINTAGE AIRPLANE 29


EAA VI~TA(3(







AIRCRAFT


MISCELLANEOUS


FOREIGN MEMBERSHIPS



OSHKOSH WI54903-3086 PHONE (414) 426-4800


815-500 MON-FRI 1-800-843-3612








WANTED























800-361-3490 Other Stuff 909-684-4280









RJ Dobbie licldeig


past President


Pilot since 1938








- Dobbie Lickteig









To become an

EAA Antique amp

Classic Division


















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 15

t s-CAP s5TP I f





004 - MAT LI-JTMSP

005-PA~



(vAI-OG- WY





o-4P 5T)lIP v-




bull

a T la~

b l -nmiddotls

--=RPM 17-





y I tJ I 12H tgtE k



All Rights Reserved

1-4-2~ ~ ~A6Jf1-~

3 4 S G $ ~ 10 3







STEVE WITTMAN








VINTAGE AIRPLANE 17


18 AUGUST 1995

AI Nordgrens


















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 19




20 AUGUST 1995






















Climb to 10000 ft


Service ceiling

Landing speed

Gross weight

Empty weight

Useful load

600 ft

7 seconds

1750 ft min

1Omin

175 mph

18000 ft

62 mph

5500 Ibs

4016 Ibs

1484 Ibs

895 ft

25 seconds

1 000 ft min

15 min

142 mph

15000 ft

50 mph

4525 Ibs

3240 Ibs

1285 Ibs


VINTAGE AIRPLANE 21

Vintage Seaplanes


by Norm Petersen






22 AUGUST 1995












VINTAGE AIRPLANE 23

PASSd ~BUCK









24 AUGUST 1995








by Norm Petersen




















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 25

ystery Plane




by HG Frautschy







26 AUGUST 1995







VINTAGE AEROMAIL





Dear HG



















Dear Mr Frautschy





VINTAGE AIRPLANE 27












Overland Park KS














Hurst TX ActonCA














DuluthMN Redmond WA










Shelburne VT

28 AUGUST 1995



----------




VINTAGE AIRPLANE 29


EAA VI~TA(3(







AIRCRAFT


MISCELLANEOUS


FOREIGN MEMBERSHIPS



OSHKOSH WI54903-3086 PHONE (414) 426-4800


815-500 MON-FRI 1-800-843-3612








WANTED























800-361-3490 Other Stuff 909-684-4280









RJ Dobbie licldeig


past President


Pilot since 1938








- Dobbie Lickteig









To become an

EAA Antique amp

Classic Division





t s-CAP s5TP I f





004 - MAT LI-JTMSP

005-PA~



(vAI-OG- WY





o-4P 5T)lIP v-




bull

a T la~

b l -nmiddotls

--=RPM 17-





y I tJ I 12H tgtE k



All Rights Reserved

1-4-2~ ~ ~A6Jf1-~

3 4 S G $ ~ 10 3







STEVE WITTMAN








VINTAGE AIRPLANE 17


18 AUGUST 1995

AI Nordgrens


















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 19




20 AUGUST 1995






















Climb to 10000 ft


Service ceiling

Landing speed

Gross weight

Empty weight

Useful load

600 ft

7 seconds

1750 ft min

1Omin

175 mph

18000 ft

62 mph

5500 Ibs

4016 Ibs

1484 Ibs

895 ft

25 seconds

1 000 ft min

15 min

142 mph

15000 ft

50 mph

4525 Ibs

3240 Ibs

1285 Ibs


VINTAGE AIRPLANE 21

Vintage Seaplanes


by Norm Petersen






22 AUGUST 1995












VINTAGE AIRPLANE 23

PASSd ~BUCK









24 AUGUST 1995








by Norm Petersen




















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 25

ystery Plane




by HG Frautschy







26 AUGUST 1995







VINTAGE AEROMAIL





Dear HG



















Dear Mr Frautschy





VINTAGE AIRPLANE 27












Overland Park KS














Hurst TX ActonCA














DuluthMN Redmond WA










Shelburne VT

28 AUGUST 1995



----------




VINTAGE AIRPLANE 29


EAA VI~TA(3(







AIRCRAFT


MISCELLANEOUS


FOREIGN MEMBERSHIPS



OSHKOSH WI54903-3086 PHONE (414) 426-4800


815-500 MON-FRI 1-800-843-3612








WANTED























800-361-3490 Other Stuff 909-684-4280









RJ Dobbie licldeig


past President


Pilot since 1938








- Dobbie Lickteig









To become an

EAA Antique amp

Classic Division







y I tJ I 12H tgtE k



All Rights Reserved

1-4-2~ ~ ~A6Jf1-~

3 4 S G $ ~ 10 3







STEVE WITTMAN








VINTAGE AIRPLANE 17


18 AUGUST 1995

AI Nordgrens


















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 19




20 AUGUST 1995






















Climb to 10000 ft


Service ceiling

Landing speed

Gross weight

Empty weight

Useful load

600 ft

7 seconds

1750 ft min

1Omin

175 mph

18000 ft

62 mph

5500 Ibs

4016 Ibs

1484 Ibs

895 ft

25 seconds

1 000 ft min

15 min

142 mph

15000 ft

50 mph

4525 Ibs

3240 Ibs

1285 Ibs


VINTAGE AIRPLANE 21

Vintage Seaplanes


by Norm Petersen






22 AUGUST 1995












VINTAGE AIRPLANE 23

PASSd ~BUCK









24 AUGUST 1995








by Norm Petersen




















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 25

ystery Plane




by HG Frautschy







26 AUGUST 1995







VINTAGE AEROMAIL





Dear HG



















Dear Mr Frautschy





VINTAGE AIRPLANE 27












Overland Park KS














Hurst TX ActonCA














DuluthMN Redmond WA










Shelburne VT

28 AUGUST 1995



----------




VINTAGE AIRPLANE 29


EAA VI~TA(3(







AIRCRAFT


MISCELLANEOUS


FOREIGN MEMBERSHIPS



OSHKOSH WI54903-3086 PHONE (414) 426-4800


815-500 MON-FRI 1-800-843-3612








WANTED























800-361-3490 Other Stuff 909-684-4280









RJ Dobbie licldeig


past President


Pilot since 1938








- Dobbie Lickteig









To become an

EAA Antique amp

Classic Division






18 AUGUST 1995

AI Nordgrens


















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 19




20 AUGUST 1995






















Climb to 10000 ft


Service ceiling

Landing speed

Gross weight

Empty weight

Useful load

600 ft

7 seconds

1750 ft min

1Omin

175 mph

18000 ft

62 mph

5500 Ibs

4016 Ibs

1484 Ibs

895 ft

25 seconds

1 000 ft min

15 min

142 mph

15000 ft

50 mph

4525 Ibs

3240 Ibs

1285 Ibs


VINTAGE AIRPLANE 21

Vintage Seaplanes


by Norm Petersen






22 AUGUST 1995












VINTAGE AIRPLANE 23

PASSd ~BUCK









24 AUGUST 1995








by Norm Petersen




















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 25

ystery Plane




by HG Frautschy







26 AUGUST 1995







VINTAGE AEROMAIL





Dear HG



















Dear Mr Frautschy





VINTAGE AIRPLANE 27












Overland Park KS














Hurst TX ActonCA














DuluthMN Redmond WA










Shelburne VT

28 AUGUST 1995



----------




VINTAGE AIRPLANE 29


EAA VI~TA(3(







AIRCRAFT


MISCELLANEOUS


FOREIGN MEMBERSHIPS



OSHKOSH WI54903-3086 PHONE (414) 426-4800


815-500 MON-FRI 1-800-843-3612








WANTED























800-361-3490 Other Stuff 909-684-4280









RJ Dobbie licldeig


past President


Pilot since 1938








- Dobbie Lickteig









To become an

EAA Antique amp

Classic Division
















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 19




20 AUGUST 1995






















Climb to 10000 ft


Service ceiling

Landing speed

Gross weight

Empty weight

Useful load

600 ft

7 seconds

1750 ft min

1Omin

175 mph

18000 ft

62 mph

5500 Ibs

4016 Ibs

1484 Ibs

895 ft

25 seconds

1 000 ft min

15 min

142 mph

15000 ft

50 mph

4525 Ibs

3240 Ibs

1285 Ibs


VINTAGE AIRPLANE 21

Vintage Seaplanes


by Norm Petersen






22 AUGUST 1995












VINTAGE AIRPLANE 23

PASSd ~BUCK









24 AUGUST 1995








by Norm Petersen




















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 25

ystery Plane




by HG Frautschy







26 AUGUST 1995







VINTAGE AEROMAIL





Dear HG



















Dear Mr Frautschy





VINTAGE AIRPLANE 27












Overland Park KS














Hurst TX ActonCA














DuluthMN Redmond WA










Shelburne VT

28 AUGUST 1995



----------




VINTAGE AIRPLANE 29


EAA VI~TA(3(







AIRCRAFT


MISCELLANEOUS


FOREIGN MEMBERSHIPS



OSHKOSH WI54903-3086 PHONE (414) 426-4800


815-500 MON-FRI 1-800-843-3612








WANTED























800-361-3490 Other Stuff 909-684-4280









RJ Dobbie licldeig


past President


Pilot since 1938








- Dobbie Lickteig









To become an

EAA Antique amp

Classic Division








20 AUGUST 1995






















Climb to 10000 ft


Service ceiling

Landing speed

Gross weight

Empty weight

Useful load

600 ft

7 seconds

1750 ft min

1Omin

175 mph

18000 ft

62 mph

5500 Ibs

4016 Ibs

1484 Ibs

895 ft

25 seconds

1 000 ft min

15 min

142 mph

15000 ft

50 mph

4525 Ibs

3240 Ibs

1285 Ibs


VINTAGE AIRPLANE 21

Vintage Seaplanes


by Norm Petersen






22 AUGUST 1995












VINTAGE AIRPLANE 23

PASSd ~BUCK









24 AUGUST 1995








by Norm Petersen




















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 25

ystery Plane




by HG Frautschy







26 AUGUST 1995







VINTAGE AEROMAIL





Dear HG



















Dear Mr Frautschy





VINTAGE AIRPLANE 27












Overland Park KS














Hurst TX ActonCA














DuluthMN Redmond WA










Shelburne VT

28 AUGUST 1995



----------




VINTAGE AIRPLANE 29


EAA VI~TA(3(







AIRCRAFT


MISCELLANEOUS


FOREIGN MEMBERSHIPS



OSHKOSH WI54903-3086 PHONE (414) 426-4800


815-500 MON-FRI 1-800-843-3612








WANTED























800-361-3490 Other Stuff 909-684-4280









RJ Dobbie licldeig


past President


Pilot since 1938








- Dobbie Lickteig









To become an

EAA Antique amp

Classic Division

















Climb to 10000 ft


Service ceiling

Landing speed

Gross weight

Empty weight

Useful load

600 ft

7 seconds

1750 ft min

1Omin

175 mph

18000 ft

62 mph

5500 Ibs

4016 Ibs

1484 Ibs

895 ft

25 seconds

1 000 ft min

15 min

142 mph

15000 ft

50 mph

4525 Ibs

3240 Ibs

1285 Ibs


VINTAGE AIRPLANE 21

Vintage Seaplanes


by Norm Petersen






22 AUGUST 1995












VINTAGE AIRPLANE 23

PASSd ~BUCK









24 AUGUST 1995








by Norm Petersen




















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 25

ystery Plane




by HG Frautschy







26 AUGUST 1995







VINTAGE AEROMAIL





Dear HG



















Dear Mr Frautschy





VINTAGE AIRPLANE 27












Overland Park KS














Hurst TX ActonCA














DuluthMN Redmond WA










Shelburne VT

28 AUGUST 1995



----------




VINTAGE AIRPLANE 29


EAA VI~TA(3(







AIRCRAFT


MISCELLANEOUS


FOREIGN MEMBERSHIPS



OSHKOSH WI54903-3086 PHONE (414) 426-4800


815-500 MON-FRI 1-800-843-3612








WANTED























800-361-3490 Other Stuff 909-684-4280









RJ Dobbie licldeig


past President


Pilot since 1938








- Dobbie Lickteig









To become an

EAA Antique amp

Classic Division





Vintage Seaplanes


by Norm Petersen






22 AUGUST 1995












VINTAGE AIRPLANE 23

PASSd ~BUCK









24 AUGUST 1995








by Norm Petersen




















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 25

ystery Plane




by HG Frautschy







26 AUGUST 1995







VINTAGE AEROMAIL





Dear HG



















Dear Mr Frautschy





VINTAGE AIRPLANE 27












Overland Park KS














Hurst TX ActonCA














DuluthMN Redmond WA










Shelburne VT

28 AUGUST 1995



----------




VINTAGE AIRPLANE 29


EAA VI~TA(3(







AIRCRAFT


MISCELLANEOUS


FOREIGN MEMBERSHIPS



OSHKOSH WI54903-3086 PHONE (414) 426-4800


815-500 MON-FRI 1-800-843-3612








WANTED























800-361-3490 Other Stuff 909-684-4280









RJ Dobbie licldeig


past President


Pilot since 1938








- Dobbie Lickteig









To become an

EAA Antique amp

Classic Division














VINTAGE AIRPLANE 23

PASSd ~BUCK









24 AUGUST 1995








by Norm Petersen




















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 25

ystery Plane




by HG Frautschy







26 AUGUST 1995







VINTAGE AEROMAIL





Dear HG



















Dear Mr Frautschy





VINTAGE AIRPLANE 27












Overland Park KS














Hurst TX ActonCA














DuluthMN Redmond WA










Shelburne VT

28 AUGUST 1995



----------




VINTAGE AIRPLANE 29


EAA VI~TA(3(







AIRCRAFT


MISCELLANEOUS


FOREIGN MEMBERSHIPS



OSHKOSH WI54903-3086 PHONE (414) 426-4800


815-500 MON-FRI 1-800-843-3612








WANTED























800-361-3490 Other Stuff 909-684-4280









RJ Dobbie licldeig


past President


Pilot since 1938








- Dobbie Lickteig









To become an

EAA Antique amp

Classic Division





PASSd ~BUCK









24 AUGUST 1995








by Norm Petersen




















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 25

ystery Plane




by HG Frautschy







26 AUGUST 1995







VINTAGE AEROMAIL





Dear HG



















Dear Mr Frautschy





VINTAGE AIRPLANE 27












Overland Park KS














Hurst TX ActonCA














DuluthMN Redmond WA










Shelburne VT

28 AUGUST 1995



----------




VINTAGE AIRPLANE 29


EAA VI~TA(3(







AIRCRAFT


MISCELLANEOUS


FOREIGN MEMBERSHIPS



OSHKOSH WI54903-3086 PHONE (414) 426-4800


815-500 MON-FRI 1-800-843-3612








WANTED























800-361-3490 Other Stuff 909-684-4280









RJ Dobbie licldeig


past President


Pilot since 1938








- Dobbie Lickteig









To become an

EAA Antique amp

Classic Division




















VINTAGE AIRPLANE 25

ystery Plane




by HG Frautschy







26 AUGUST 1995







VINTAGE AEROMAIL





Dear HG



















Dear Mr Frautschy





VINTAGE AIRPLANE 27












Overland Park KS














Hurst TX ActonCA














DuluthMN Redmond WA










Shelburne VT

28 AUGUST 1995



----------




VINTAGE AIRPLANE 29


EAA VI~TA(3(







AIRCRAFT


MISCELLANEOUS


FOREIGN MEMBERSHIPS



OSHKOSH WI54903-3086 PHONE (414) 426-4800


815-500 MON-FRI 1-800-843-3612








WANTED























800-361-3490 Other Stuff 909-684-4280









RJ Dobbie licldeig


past President


Pilot since 1938








- Dobbie Lickteig









To become an

EAA Antique amp

Classic Division





ystery Plane




by HG Frautschy







26 AUGUST 1995







VINTAGE AEROMAIL





Dear HG



















Dear Mr Frautschy





VINTAGE AIRPLANE 27












Overland Park KS














Hurst TX ActonCA














DuluthMN Redmond WA










Shelburne VT

28 AUGUST 1995



----------




VINTAGE AIRPLANE 29


EAA VI~TA(3(







AIRCRAFT


MISCELLANEOUS


FOREIGN MEMBERSHIPS



OSHKOSH WI54903-3086 PHONE (414) 426-4800


815-500 MON-FRI 1-800-843-3612








WANTED























800-361-3490 Other Stuff 909-684-4280









RJ Dobbie licldeig


past President


Pilot since 1938








- Dobbie Lickteig









To become an

EAA Antique amp

Classic Division











VINTAGE AEROMAIL





Dear HG



















Dear Mr Frautschy





VINTAGE AIRPLANE 27












Overland Park KS














Hurst TX ActonCA














DuluthMN Redmond WA










Shelburne VT

28 AUGUST 1995



----------




VINTAGE AIRPLANE 29


EAA VI~TA(3(







AIRCRAFT


MISCELLANEOUS


FOREIGN MEMBERSHIPS



OSHKOSH WI54903-3086 PHONE (414) 426-4800


815-500 MON-FRI 1-800-843-3612








WANTED























800-361-3490 Other Stuff 909-684-4280









RJ Dobbie licldeig


past President


Pilot since 1938








- Dobbie Lickteig









To become an

EAA Antique amp

Classic Division
















Overland Park KS














Hurst TX ActonCA














DuluthMN Redmond WA










Shelburne VT

28 AUGUST 1995



----------




VINTAGE AIRPLANE 29


EAA VI~TA(3(







AIRCRAFT


MISCELLANEOUS


FOREIGN MEMBERSHIPS



OSHKOSH WI54903-3086 PHONE (414) 426-4800


815-500 MON-FRI 1-800-843-3612








WANTED























800-361-3490 Other Stuff 909-684-4280









RJ Dobbie licldeig


past President


Pilot since 1938








- Dobbie Lickteig









To become an

EAA Antique amp

Classic Division







----------




VINTAGE AIRPLANE 29


EAA VI~TA(3(







AIRCRAFT


MISCELLANEOUS


FOREIGN MEMBERSHIPS



OSHKOSH WI54903-3086 PHONE (414) 426-4800


815-500 MON-FRI 1-800-843-3612








WANTED























800-361-3490 Other Stuff 909-684-4280









RJ Dobbie licldeig


past President


Pilot since 1938








- Dobbie Lickteig









To become an

EAA Antique amp

Classic Division






EAA VI~TA(3(







AIRCRAFT


MISCELLANEOUS


FOREIGN MEMBERSHIPS



OSHKOSH WI54903-3086 PHONE (414) 426-4800


815-500 MON-FRI 1-800-843-3612








WANTED























800-361-3490 Other Stuff 909-684-4280









RJ Dobbie licldeig


past President


Pilot since 1938








- Dobbie Lickteig









To become an

EAA Antique amp

Classic Division

























800-361-3490 Other Stuff 909-684-4280









RJ Dobbie licldeig


past President


Pilot since 1938








- Dobbie Lickteig









To become an

EAA Antique amp

Classic Division





RJ Dobbie licldeig


past President


Pilot since 1938








- Dobbie Lickteig









To become an

EAA Antique amp

Classic Division









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Vintage Airplane - Aug 1995