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VARICI RECIDIVE SOLO ALLA CROSSE? Rezidive nur an der Crosse ? JA Ebner**, H Ebner *, * SVGTCHIR, ** CHIRURGIA VASCOLARE E TORACICA Ospedale Centrale Bolzano Recurrent VV only in the groin?

VARICI RECIDIVE SOLO ALLA CROSSE? Rezidive nur an der Crosse ? JA Ebner**, H Ebner *, * SVGTCHIR, ** CHIRURGIA VASCOLARE E TORACICA Ospedale Centrale Bolzano

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Page 1: VARICI RECIDIVE SOLO ALLA CROSSE? Rezidive nur an der Crosse ? JA Ebner**, H Ebner *, * SVGTCHIR, ** CHIRURGIA VASCOLARE E TORACICA Ospedale Centrale Bolzano

VARICI RECIDIVE SOLO ALLA CROSSE?

Rezidive nur an der Crosse ?

JA Ebner**, H Ebner *,

* SVGTCHIR, ** CHIRURGIA VASCOLARE E TORACICA Ospedale Centrale Bolzano

Recurrent VV only in the groin?

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Ore 16.00 Varici recidive dal 6% all`80 % ? Varizenrezidiv zw. 6% und 80% ? Ebner H (Bolzano) Ore 16.10 Klassifikationen der Rezidivvarikosis Classificazioni delle varici recidive Noppeney T (Nürnberg) Ore 16.20 La neoangiogenesi e` un evento fisiologico Die Neoangiogenese ist physiologisch Annoni F (Milano) Ore 16.30 Neovaskularisation: gibt es diese wirklich ? Neoangiogenesi: esiste realmente ? Mumme A (Bochum) Ore 16.40 Errore tecnico o neovascolarizzazione ? Technischer Fehler oder Neovaskularisation ? Tori A (Milano) Ore 16.50 Hämodynamische Ursachen der Rezidivvarikose Cause emodinamiche delle varici recidive Recek C (Wien) Ore 17.10-17.50 Discussione interattiva con televoto Interaktive Diskussion mit Televoter Ore 17.50-18.00 PAUSE PAUSA

Ore 18.00 Recidiva dopo scleroterapia Rezidiv nach Sklerotherapie Ferrara F (Napoli) Ore 18.10 Was findet sich beim Reeingriff ? Cosa si trova al reintervento ? Zimmermann F (Dresden) Ore 18.20 Recidive dopo interventi endovascolari Rezidive nach endovaskulären Eingriffen Pisacreta M (Milano) Ore 18.30 Rezidive nur an der Crosse ? Recidive solo alla crosse Ebner H (Bozen) Ore 18.40 Importanza clinica della recidiva Klinische Bedeutung des Varizenrezidivs Genovese G (Brindisi)

SEZIONE TRENTINO ALTO ADIGE

21° “FLEB DES ALPES” Alta Badia 6-8 Febbraio 2013

VI SESSIONE ITALO – TEDESCA --- DEUTSCH – ITALIENISCHE SITZUNG

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Recurrent VV only in the groin?

133 References on Recurrent VV

57 Crosse,SFJ

12 Neovascularisation24 random stud.

67 RVV in general

4 SPJ 5 perforators

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22 selected papers 2000-2013

Recurrent VV only in the groin?

Recurrences

15 Groin 68%

8 Perforators 36%

9 other 41%

Listed alone 5 1 1

6 Listed together 27%

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Auszeichnung für eine wissenschaftliche Arbeit, die sich mit den Ursachen der Rezidivvarikosis unter spezieller Berücksichtigung der Anatomie der Crossenregion beschäftigt.

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Recurrent VV only in the groin?

Possible explanations

SFJ Incompetence main cause of VVMore Duplex on Controls

Easier to diagnose ?Discussion on Neovascularisation

More often symptomatic ?Most frequent side of reintervention

End point in comparative studies

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Recurrent VV only in the groin?

22 selected papers 2000-2013

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Recurrent VV only in the groin?

534 Radical Babcock-Cockett Interventions 1998-2003

SFJ Flush ligation,GSV stripping,ligature of perforators, multiple flebectomies

for SFJ insufficiency, GSV VV,collateral VV, one or more insufficient perforators,

at least C2

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Recurrent VV only in the groin?

534 Legs operated 100%

73 by telephone 13,6%

61 Lost for Follow-up 11,4% 473 approached 88,6%

400 Examinated 74,9%

Follow-up 120± 21 m

Anamnestic,Clinical,Duplex Controlby independent investigators

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Assessment Recurrence

Clinical: visible or palpable VV

Duplex: VV > 3mm SFJ Reflux > 0,5 sec

Fischer type B1,2 and C Dilated perforators

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RESULTSRecurrent VV

Recurrent VV only in the groin?

Subjective estimationSubjective estimationSame Site of Op.

24,5%Different Site

15,3%39,8%

Clinically visible VV

45,2%

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RESULTSRecurrent VV

Recurrent VV only in the groin?

Duplex and clinical Ex.

Clinical//Duplex

Clinical+

DuplexOnly

Duplex total

No RVV 134 (33,5%) 0 134 (33,5%)

RVV 182 (45,5%) 84 (21%) 266 (66,5%)

total 318 (79,5%) 84 (21%) 400 (100%)

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RESULTSRecurrent VV

Duplex//and Clinical SITE

Recurrent VV only in the groin?

SiteClinical

+Duplex

Only Duplex total %

Leg 65 (24,4%) 39 (14,6%) 104 39%

Groin+thigh+leg 40 (15,0%) 0 40 15%

Thigh+leg 30 (11,2%) 5 (1,8%) 35 13%

Groin 1 (0,3%) 24 (9%) 25 9,4%

Groin+leg 18 (6,7%) 3 (1,1%) 21 7,9%

Thigh 8 (3%) 8 (3%) 16 6%

Popliteal fossa 8 (3%) 1 (0,3%) 9 3,4%

Groin+popl.fossa+leg 5 (1,8%) 0 5 1,9%

Groin+thigh 4 (1,5%) 2 (0,7%) 6 2,2%

Thigh+popl.fossa+leg 3 (1,1%) 0 3 1,1%

Popl.fossa+leg 2 (0,7%) 0 2 0,7%

SiteClinical

+Duplex

Only Duplex total %

Groin,Groin+thighGroin+thigh+leg

45 26 71 26,7%

Groin+leg 18 3 21 7,9%Groin+popl.fossa+leg 5 0 5 1,9%GROIN ++ 68 29 97 36,5%ThighThigh+leg 38 13 51 19,2%

Thigh+popl.fossa+leg 3 0 3 1,1%THIGH 41 13 54 20,3%Popliteal fossaPopl.fossa+ leg 10 1 11 4,1%

++ popl. fossa 8 0 8 3,0%POPL.FOSSA 18 1 19 7,1%Leg 65 39 104 39,1%++ leg 98 8 106 39,8%LEG 163 47 210 78,9%

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Source n %

One perforator 86 32,3%

2 to 4 perforators 32 12%

SFJ 45 16,9%

SFJ+ 1 to 3 perf. 43 16,2%

SFJ+SPJ+perf. 8 3%

SPJ 22 8,3%

No source 30 11,3%

Recurrent VV only in the groin?

RESULTSRecurrent VV

Source of Recurrence

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Fischer Classification n %

A 304 76,0%

B1

B2 43 10,7%

C

49 12,2%

4 1,0%

Recurrent VV only in the groin? RESULTSRecurrent VV

SFJ Duplex

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CONCLUSIONS

Recurrent VV only in the groin?

SFC Rec. is most often cited in Literat.

Other sites are at least as frequent

The reasons are multi-layered

We have to differentiate between clinically important lesions and merely technical

findings

Also peripheral recurrences deserveAnd need our attention

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Zentrale rezidiveAls ursache für rez. WichtigerAufgrund der Techniken mehr

diskutiertRezidiv messbar

Opindikation zum reeingirff wird meist hier gestellt

Eigene Ergebnisse

Rezidive nur an der Crosse ?