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8/14/2019 US Supreme Court: 01-757 http://slidepdf.com/reader/full/us-supreme-court-01-757 1/34 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 I N THE SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -X SYNGENTA CROP PROTECTI ON, I NC. , ROBERT BABB, E DE E TEMPLET, AND KENNETH A. DEVUN, Petitioners v. HURLEY HENSON. : : : : : : No. 01-757 : - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -X Wa s h i n g t o n , D. C. Tuesday, October 15, 2002 The above-entitled matter came on for oral argument before the Supreme Court of the United States at 10:05 a.m. APPEARANCES: HENRY B. ALSOBROOK, J R. , ESQ. , New Or l ea ns , Loui s i an a; on behalf of the Petitioners. DAVI D J . BEDERMAN, ESQ. , At l ant a, Geor gi a; on behal f of  the Respondent. 1 Alderson Reporting Company 1111 14th Street, N.W. Suite 400 1-800-FOR-DEPO Washington, DC 20005

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I N THE S UPREME COURT OF THE UNI TED STATES - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - XS YNGENTA CROP P ROTECTI ON,

I NC . , R OB ER T B AB B, E DE E TEMP LET , AND KENNETH A. DEVUN,

P e t i t i o n e r s v .

HURLEY HENSON.

: : : : : : No . 0 1 - 7 5 7 :

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - XWa s h i n g t o n , D. C. Tu e s d a y , Oc t o b e r 1 5 , 2 0 0 2

Th e a b o v e - e n t i t l e d ma t t e r c a me o n f o r o r a l a r g u me n t b e f o r e t h e S u p r e me Co u r t o f t h e Un i t e d S t a t e s a t 1 0 : 0 5 a . m. APPEARANCES: HENRY B. ALS OBROOK, J R. , ES Q. , Ne w Or l e a n s , Lo u i s i a n a ; o n

b e h a l f o f t h e P e t i t i o n e r s . DAVI D J . BEDERMAN, ES Q. , At l a n t a , Ge o r g i a ; o n b e h a l f o f  

t h e Re s p o n d e n t .

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C O N T E N T S ORAL ARGUMENT OF P AGEHE NR Y B . AL S OB ROOK, J R . , E S Q.

On b e h a l f o f t h e P e t i t i o n e r s 3 DAVI D J . B E DE R MAN, E S Q .

On b e h a l f o f t h e Re s p o n d e n t 2 2 REBUTTAL ARGUMENT OF HE NR Y B . AL S OB ROOK, J R . , E S Q.

On b e h a l f o f t h e P e t i t i o n e r s 3 3

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P R O C E E D I N G S ( 1 0 : 0 5 a . m. )

CHI E F J US TI CE RE HNQUI S T : We ' l l h e a r a r g u me n t n o w i n No . 0 1 - 7 5 7 , S y n g e n t a C r o p P r o t e c t i o n , I n c . v . Hu r l e y He n s o n .

Mr . Al s o b r o o k . ORAL ARGUMENT OF HENRY B. ALSOBROOK, J R.

ON BEHALF OF T HE P ETI TI ONERS MR. ALS OBROOK: Mr . Ch i e f J u s t i c e , a n d ma y i t

p l e a s e t h e Co u r t : I n Ki k k o n e n v . Gu a r d i a n Li f e , t h i s Co u r t

h y p o t h e s i z e d t h e v e r y s i t u a t i o n t h a t we h a v e b e f o r e y o u t h i s mo r n i n g b e c a u s e h e r e we h a v e a n a t i o n wi d e c l a s s a c t i o n s e t t l e me n t wh e r e t h e c o u r t s p e c i f i c a l l y b y j u d g me n t r e t a i n e d j u r i s d i c t i o n t o ma n a g e t h e s e t t l e me n t a s we l l a s e n f o r c e i t . A c r i t i c a l p a r t o f t h a t s e t t l e me n t wa s t h e d i s mi s s a l o f t h i s c a s e . Ho we v e r , wh e n c l a s s c o u n s e l we n t t o d i s mi s s t h e c a s e , a s t h e E l e v e n t h Ci r c u i t p o i n t e d o u t a n d a s t h e d i s t r i c t c o u r t p o i n t e d o u t , h i s e f f o r t s we r e

t h wa r t e d a n d t h e c a s e wa s n o t d i s mi s s e d .

QUE S TI ON: Mr . Al s o b r o o k , I s e e y o u ' v e c h a n g e d t h e q u e s t i o n p r e s e n t e d f r o m t h e t i me i n y o u r c e r t i o r a r i p e t i t i o n t o y o u r o p e n i n g b r i e f . An d t h e q u e s t i o n p r e s e n t e d , wh e n we g r a n t e d , r e f e r r e d t o 2 8 U. S . C. , s e c t i o n 1 4 4 1 , a n d n o w y o u h a v e d r o p p e d y o u r r e f e r e n c e t o t h a t .

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Do e s t h a t me a n y o u ' r e a b a n d o n i n g r e l i a n c e o n 1 4 4 1 o r s i mp l y b r o a d e n i n g t h e q u e s t i o n ?

MR. ALS OBROOK: No , s i r . We - - we ' r e s a y i n g t h a t u n d e r 1 4 4 1 t h a t b e c a u s e t h e d i s t r i c t c o u r t r e t a i n e d

 j u r i s d i c t i o n , t h a t t h a t wa s o r i g i n a l j u r i s d i c t i o n t o r e mo v e t h e ma t t e r , a n d t h a t a c t u a l l y , Yo u r Ho n o r , wh e n we r e mo v e d t h i s , t h e y - - t h e ma j o r i t y o f c i r c u i t c o u r t s o f  a p p e a l s , n a me l y t h e s e c o n d , s i x t h , s e v e n t h , a n d e i g h t h , h a d s a i d t h a t t h e p r o p e r v e h i c l e t o r e mo v e t h i s wa s t h e Al l Wr i t s Ac t . An d t h a t i s wh a t we a r e c l a i mi n g t o d a y , a s we l l a s 2 8 U. S . C. 1 3 6 7 a n c i l l a r y j u r i s d i c t i o n , a n d we h a v e s e t t h a t o u t i n o u r b r i e f .

QUE S TI ON: Bu t y o u h a v e n o r i g h t t o r e mo v e u n d e r 1 4 4 1 b e c a u s e t h e r e wa s n ' t c o mp l e t e d i v e r s i t y i n t h e L o u i s i a n a s u i t . I s n ' t t h a t r i g h t ?

MR. ALS OBROOK: Th a t i s c o r r e c t . QUE S TI ON: S o y o u c a n ' t r e l y o n 1 4 4 1 a n d t h a t ' s

c o n c e d e d . MR. ALS OBROOK: We - - we c a n - - o u r r e l i a n c e o n

1 4 4 1 wa s b a s e d o n t h e f a c t t h a t t h e Al a b a ma c o u r t r e t a i n e d o r i g i n a l j u r i s d i c t i o n a n d - -

QUE S TI ON: Bu t t h a t ' s n o t - - n o t h i n g i n 4 1 r e s t s o n t h a t . I t h a s t o b e a c a s e t h a t wo u l d q u a l i f y f o r o r i g i n a l j u r i s d i c t i o n , a n d y o u d o n ' t h a v e t h a t .

MR. AL SOBROOK: Ye s , Yo u r Ho n o r , b u t we - - we

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c o n s t r u e d t h a t a s b e i n g a v e n u e r a t h e r t h a n a - - a - - b e c a u s e t h e Al a b a ma c o u r t h a d o r i g i n a l j u r i s d i c t i o n .

An d c e r t a i n l y u n d e r 1 6 5 1 - - QUE S TI ON: Wh a t d i d y o u c o n s t r u e a s b e i n g v e n u e ? MR. ALS OBROOK: Th e - - t h e f a c t t h a t we h a d t o

t a k e i t t o a F e d e r a l c o u r t i n t h e d i s t r i c t wh e r e t h e S t a t e c o u r t s u i t l a y , a n d t h e n i t wa s i mme d i a t e l y t r a n s f e r r e d t o t h e - - t o t h e Al a b a ma c o u r t .

QUE S TI ON: Ye s , y o u - - y o u c a n ' t r e mo v e a c a s e t o a Fe d e r a l c o u r t o u t s i d e o f t h e d i s t r i c t i n wh i c h t h e S t a t e c o u r t s a t , i s my u n d e r s t a n d i n g .

MR. ALS OBROOK: Th a t ' s r i g h t , Yo u r Ho n o r . We t o o k - - we t o o k o u r r o a d ma p f r o m Ag e n t

Or a n g e Pr o d u c t L i a b i l i t y . T h e r e t h e y h a d a Te x a s - - QUE S TI ON: Wh o i s t h e y ? MR. ALS OBROOK: Th e r e , t h e r e wa s a - - QUE S TI ON: Wh a t c o u r t a r e y o u t a l k i n g a b o u t ? MR. ALS OBROOK: We ' r e t a l k i n g a b o u t t h e S e c o n d

Ci r c u i t .

An d - -

QUE S TI ON: I n i t i a l l y t h e Ea s t e r n Di s t r i c t o f Ne wYo r k , J u d g e We i n s t e i n ' s - -

MR . AL S O BR OOK: Ye s . QUE S TI ON: - - o r d e r , wh i c h wa s i n n o wa y b a s e d

o n 1 4 4 1 . I t wa s b a s e d o n 1 6 5 1 . MR. ALS OBROOK: Bu t , Yo u r Ho n o r , a l s o i n t h a t

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c a s e wa s t h e c a s e o f R y a n , a n d i n Ry a n , i t wa s b r o u g h t b y t o c l a s s me mb e r s i n t h e S t a t e c o u r t i n Te x a s . An d i t wa s r e mo v e d t o t h e F e d e r a l c o u r t i n Te x a s a n d t h e n t r a n s f e r r e d t o t h e Ea s t e r n Di s t r i c t o f Ne w Yo r k . An d t h a t wa s o u r r o a d ma p f o r g e t t i n g t h i s c a s e t o - - b a c k t o Al a b a ma .

QUE S TI ON: Bu t t h a t wa s a l l d o n e u n d e r t h e Al l Wr i t s Ac t o r wh a t t h e y t h o u g h t wa s t h e a u t h o r i t y g r a n t e d b y 1 6 5 1 .

MR. ALS OBROOK: Ye s , a n d we a l s o , Yo u r Ho n o r - - i n o u r r e mo v a l p e t i t i o n , we p l e d t h e Al l Wr i t s Ac t , a s we l l a s a n c i l l a r y j u r i s d i c t i o n u n d e r 1 3 6 7 .

QUE S TI ON: We l l , wh a t i s y o u r t h e o r y u n d e r t h e Al l Wr i t s Ac t ? I s y o u r t h e o r y t h a t r e mo v a l i s i t s e l f - - c o me s u n d e r t h e Al l Wr i t s Ac t ?

MR. ALS OBROOK: We c o n t e n d t h a t - - t h a t i n o r d e r f o r t h e Co u r t - -

QUE S TI ON: Ca n ' t y o u a n s we r t h e q u e s t i o n y e s o r n o ?

MR. ALS OBROOK: Oh , I ' m s o r r y . I ' m s o r r y . Ye s .

QUE S TI ON: I t h o u g h t t h e Al l Wr i t s Ac t r e q u i r e d t h e e x i s t e n c e o f s o me s o r t o f a c o mmo n l a w wr i t l i k e c e r t i o r a r i o r p r o h i b i t i o n o r i n j u n c t i o n o r s o me t h i n g l i k e t h a t . Th e r e - - t h e r e n e v e r wa s a c o mmo n l a w wr i t o f  r e mo v a l .

MR. ALS OBROOK: Th a t i s c o r r e c t , Yo u r Ho n o r .

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Bu t t h e j u r i s p r u d e n c e , p a r t i c u l a r l y t h e Ag e n t Or a n g e c a s e - -

QUE S TI ON: We l l , b u t c a n y o u c i t e a n y o f o u r c a s e s t h a t s u p p o r t y o u i n t h i s r e s p e c t ?

MR. ALS OBROOK: We l l , I c a n c i t e t h e Ne w Yo r k T e l e p h o n e c a s e wh e r e t h e Co u r t s a i d t h a t - - t h a t r e mo v a l wa s - - n o t r e mo v a l , b u t a wr i t u n d e r t h e Al l Wr i t s Ac t wa s - - wa s p r o p e r t o a v o i d t h e f r u s t r a t i o n o f j u d g me n t , a n d t h a t wa s - - t h a t wa s c e r t a i n l y t h e s i t u a t i o n h e r e .

QUE S TI ON: Bu t - - b u t t h a t wa s a d i f f e r e n t - - t h a t wa s a n e x i s t i n g wr i t . He r e - - h e r e y o u ' r e s a y i n g , i n e f f e c t , t h a t r e mo v a l i s - - i s i t s e l f a wr i t . An d I s i mp l y d o n ' t s e e h o w t h e c a s e s s u p p o r t y o u t h e r e .

MR. ALS OBROOK: I a g r e e wi t h t h a t , Yo u r Ho n o r . QUE S TI ON: Do y o u a g r e e t h a t t h e Al l Wr i t s Ac t

i s n o t a s o u r c e o f o r i g i n a l j u r i s d i c t i o n ? MR. ALS OBROOK: Ye s , ma ' a m. Ye s , Yo u r Ho n o r , b y

t h e - - QUE S TI ON: Wh y - - wh y t h e n d i d n ' t y o u t r y t o g e t

a n i n j u n c t i o n i n t h e d i s t r i c t c o u r t i n Al a b a ma ?

MR. ALS OBROOK: Th e r e we r e t wo r e a s o n s , J u s t i c e O' Co n n o r . F i r s t i s t h a t a n i n j u n c t i o n wo u l d n o t d i s mi s s t h e c a s e . An i n j u n c t i o n wo u l d e n j o i n t h e - - t h e S t a t e c o u r t s u i t f r o m g o i n g f o r wa r d .

QUE S T I ON: Ye s .

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MR. AL S OBROOK: An d we wo u l d h a v e h a d - - o u r c l i e n t wo u l d h a v e h a d t o c a r r y t h i s a s a l i a b i l i t y o n t h e i r b o o k s a d i n f i n i t u m.

QUE S TI ON: We l l , c o u l d n ' t t h e i n j u n c t i o n h a v e o r d e r e d t h e p a r t y t o d i s mi s s t h e c a s e ?

MR. ALS OBROOK: Ye s , t h e y d i d - - t h e y c o u l d , Yo u r Ho n o r , a n d - -

QUE S TI ON: Bu t t h e n wh y - - wh y wo u l d n ' t t h a t b e s u f f i c i e n t ?

MR. ALS OBROOK: I s u p p o s e i t wo u l d h a v e b e e n . QUE S TI ON: Bu t i f t h a t ' s s o , t h e n wh y d o n ' t - -

wh y a r e we t r y i n g t o r e a d i n t o 1 4 4 1 l a n g u a g e t h a t i s n ' t t h e r e a n d r e a d r e q u i r e me n t s o u t o f 1 6 5 1 , r e q u i r e me n t s t h a t a r e t h e r e , wh e n t h e r e wa s a n o t h e r wa y , t o t a l l y c o n s i s t e n t wi t h t h e wo r d s , t h e s t a t u t e , e v e r y t h i n g e l s e , t h a t y o u c o u l d h a v e a c h i e v e d a n y l e g i t i ma t e o b j e c t i v e t h a t y o u h a d ?

MR. ALS OBROOK: We l l , J u s t i c e Br e y e r , a t t h e t i me t h a t we d i d t h i s , a s I s a i d e a r l i e r , t h e r e wa s - - t h e ma j o r i t y o f F e d e r a l c i r c u i t c o u r t s s a i d t h a t t h e p r o p e r

v e h i c l e wa s t o r e mo v e t h e c a s e a n d g e t i t b e f o r e t h e c o u r t wh e r e - - t h a t h a d i s s u e d t h e j u d g me n t . To d a y wi t h t h e n u mb e r o f c l a s s a c t i o n s e t t l e me n t s t h a t a r e g o i n g o n , t h e r e mu s t b e s o me k i n d o f wa y b y wh i c h a F e d e r a l c o u r t wh o i s s u e s a j u d g me n t c a n e n f o r c e t h a t j u d g me n t a c r o s s S t a t e l i n e s .

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QUES TI ON: Th e r e i s . I s n ' t t h a t j u s t i n y o u r a n s we r t o J u s t i c e O' Co n n o r a n d J u s t i c e Ke n n e d y ? Yo u p r o v i d e d t h e wa y .

MR . AL S O BR OOK: Ye s . QUE S TI ON: Th e - - t h e o n l y l o o s e e n d , i t s e e ms

t o me , t h a t - - t h a t y o u h a v e l e f t , a f t e r y o u r a n s we r s t o J u s t i c e s O ' Co n n o r a n d Ke n n e d y , i s t h e p r o b l e m y o u s a y y o u r c l i e n t wo u l d h a v e i n c a r r y i n g l i a b i l i t y o n t h e b o o k s u n t i l t h e s e c o n d a c t i o n wa s s o me h o w f i n a l l y t e r mi n a t e d . Bu t i s n ' t t h e a n s we r t o t h a t t h a t o n c e y o u h a d g o t t e n e i t h e r t h e i n j u n c t i o n o r s i mp l y t h e - - t h e o r d e r t o t h e p a r t i e s u n d e r t h e r e t a i n e d j u r i s d i c t i o n , y o u t h e n c o u l d h a v e g o n e i n t o c o u r t i n t h e s e c o n d s u i t a n d s a i d , t h e y c a n n o t p r o s e c u t e t h e s u i t ? I t h a s b e e n e n j o i n e d . Th e r e f o r e , p l e a s e d i s mi s s i t . Wo u l d n ' t y o u h a v e g o t t e n y o u r d i s mi s s a l a n d wo u l d n ' t t h a t h a v e t a k e n t h e - - t h e l i a b i l i t y o f f t h e b o o k ?

MR. AL SOBROOK: I d o n ' t k n o w, Yo u r Ho n o r . QUE S TI ON: We l l , I - - I g u e s s wh y wo u l d n ' t t h a t

h a v e b e e n t h e a p p r o p r i a t e c o u r s e ?

MR. ALS OBROOK: I - - I p r e s u me t h a t t h e S t a t e c o u r t u n d e r t h o s e c i r c u ms t a n c e s wo u l d d i s mi s s i t , b u t we d o n ' t k n o w t h a t a s a ma t t e r o f f a c t .

QUE S TI ON: I - - I wa s t h i n k i n g a b o u t d i f f e r e n t wr i t s , a n d y o u ' v e r e s e a r c h e d t h i s mo r e t h o r o u g h l y t h a n I ,

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I s u s p e c t . I t h o u g h t t h e c l o s e s t t h i n g h e r e wa s a wr i t o f  c e r t i o r a r i . Th i s i s l i k e a wr i t o f c e r t i o r a r i , b u t a wr i t o f c e r t i o r a r i i s f r o m a s u p e r i o r c o u r t t o a n i n f e r i o r c o u r t . An d I - - I d o n ' t t h i n k t h a t ' s t h e wa y we t r e a t S t a t e c o u r t s a n d F e d e r a l c o u r t s .

MR. ALS OBROOK: Th a t i s c o r r e c t , Yo u r Ho n o r . An d a n o t h e r r e a s o n - -

QUE S TI ON: An d - - a n d - - wh i c h - - a n d s o t h a t t h e a b s e n c e o f t h a t k i n d o f - - o f wr i t i n d i c a t e s t o me t h a t t h e s a f e r c o u r s e , t h e mo r e p r u d e n t c o u r s e i s t o r e l y o n t h e s t a n d a r d e q u i t a b l e r e me d i e s s u c h a s i n j u n c t i o n t h a t we ' v e b e e n d i s c u s s i n g .

MR. ALS OBROOK: Th a t i s c o r r e c t , Yo u r Ho n o r . QUE S TI ON: Ex c e p t t h a t a l o t o f o t h e r l a wy e r s

h a d - - h a d r e l i e d o n t h e c o u r s e t h a t y o u r e l i e d o n . MR. ALS OBROOK: Th a t ' s c o r r e c t , a n d a l o t o f - - QUE S TI ON: Yo u we r e f o l l o wi n g wh a t h a d b e e n a

s u c c e s s f u l c o u r s e i n t h e p a s t . MR. ALS OBROOK: An d n o t o n l y t h a t , a l o t o f  

 j u d g e s .

QUE S TI ON: We l l , t o b e s u r e . MR. ALS OBROOK: An d s o t h e r e we r e a p l e t h o r a o f  

d i s t r i c t c o u r t c a s e s t h a t a l l o we d t h e r e mo v a l u n d e r t h e Al l Wr i t s Ac t a n d t o o k j u r i s d i c t i o n wh e r e t h e y h a d

  j u r i s d i c t i o n o r i g i n a l l y u n d e r t h e c a s e s o f NAACP , u n d e r

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t h e Ag e n t Or a n g e c a s e , a n d t h e S i x t h a n d Se v e n t h Ci r c u i t c a s e s .

QUE S TI ON: We r e t h e r e a n y c a s e s u n d e r t h e r e l i t i g a t i o n e x c e p t i o n t o t h e An t i - I n j u n c t i o n Ac t t h a t u s e d t h a t d e v i c e , t h e a n t i s u i t i n j u n c t i o n , t o a c c o mp l i s h t h e s a me t h i n g ?

MR. ALS OBROOK: We l l , Yo u r Ho n o r , n o . Th e Te n t h Ci r c u i t h a d r u l e d t h a t t h e - - t h a t t h e Al l Wr i t s Ac t c o u l d n o t b e u s e d i n t h i s - - i n t h e me t h o d t h a t we u s e d i t . We a r e n o t u n mi n d f u l o f R i v e t v . Re g i o n s , b u t we - - o u r s i t u a t i o n t h e r e - - o u r s i t u a t i o n i n t h i s c a s e i s mu c h d i f f e r e n t - -

QUE S TI ON: Bu t t h a t wa s - - t h a t wa s a q u e s t i o n o f f i g h t i n g i t o u t i n t h e S t a t e c o u r t , a n d i t ' s n o t t h e a n t i s u i t i n j u n c t i o n t h a t we ' r e d i s c u s s i n g n o w. Ri v e t s a i d i t ' s a n - - p r e c l u s i o n i s a n a f f i r ma t i v e d e f e n s e . Yo u c a n r a i s e i t i n t h e S t a t e c o u r t t h a t p r i o r F e d e r a l l i t i g a t i o n p r e c l u d e s t h i s c a s e .

Th e o t h e r wa y t o g o i s t o a s k t h e c o u r t t h a t

e n t e r e d t h e j u d g me n t , t h e c l a s s a c t i o n j u d g me n t , t h e n a t i o n wi d e c l a s s a c t i o n , t o e n j o i n t h e p a r t y wh o wa s s u p p o s e d t o h a v e s e t t l e d t h e c l a i m f r o m p r o c e e d i n g i n t h e - - i n t h e o r i g i n a l c a s e wh e n p a r t o f t h e b a r g a i n wa s t o d i s mi s s i t . S o I - - I ' m j u s t c u r i o u s wh y y o u d i d n ' t a t t e mp t t h a t r o u t e .

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MR. ALS OBROOK: We d i d n ' t a t t e mp t t h a t , Yo u r Ho n o r , b e c a u s e t h e ma j o r i t y o f t h e c i r c u i t s a t t h e t i me a p p r o v e d t h e Al l Wr i t s Ac t a s t h e v e h i c l e wi t h wh i c h t o r e mo v e t h e c a s e a n d t o g e t i t b a c k b e f o r e t h e d i s t r i c t c o u r t .

Ad d i t i o n a l l y , we f e l t t h a t i t - - S t a t e c o u r t s h a v e c a s e s r e mo v e d a l l t h e t i me t o F e d e r a l c o u r t . An d we t h o u g h t i t wo u l d b e l e s s o n e r o u s t o t h e S t a t e c o u r t j u d g e t o h a v e i t r e mo v e d r a t h e r t h a n b e i n g e n j o i n e d b y a F e d e r a l c o u r t .

QUE S TI ON: I d o n ' t u n d e r s t a n d t h a t b e c a u s e r i g h t - - b u i l t r i g h t i n t o t h e r e mo v a l p r o v i s i o n i s a c o mma n d t h a t t h e S t a t e c o u r t s h a l l p r o c e e d n o f u r t h e r . S o t h e r e mo v a l p e t i t i o n a c t s a s - - a s a - - a n i n j u n c t i o n a g a i n s t t h e S t a t e c o u r t p r o c e e d i n g f u r t h e r .

MR. ALS OBROOK: We l l , t h e r e mo v a l p e t i t i o n - - a c t u a l l y t h e c o u r t l o s e s j u r i s d i c t i o n o f i t a t t h a t t i me b e c a u s e t h e y - - i t - - i t i s r e mo v e d t o - - t o t h e F e d e r a l c o u r t . An d t h e r e a g a i n , J u s t i c e Gi n s b u r g , t h e - - we f e l t

t h a t i t wa s l e s s o n e r o u s a n d t h e r e wa s s o me j u r i s p r u d e n c e o r s o me d i c t a a n d s o me l e g a l wr i t i n g t h a t i n d i c a t e d t h a t i t wo u l d b e l e s s o n e r o u s t o t h e S t a t e c o u r t j u d g e t o h a v e i t r e mo v e d r a t h e r t h a n h a v e i t e n j o i n e d .

QUE S TI ON: Ma y I a s k t h i s q u e s t i o n ? Lo o k i n g a t t h e l a n g u a g e o f t h e Al l Wr i t s Ac t , wh i c h a u t h o r i z e s a l l

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c o u r t s e s t a b l i s h e d b y a c t o f Co n g r e s s t o i s s u e wr i t s n e c e s s a r y o r a p p r o p r i a t e i n a i d o f t h e i r r e s p e c t i v e

  j u r i s d i c t i o n s a n d s o f o r t h . No w, i n t h i s c a s e , y o u r e mo v e d f r o m t h e F e d e r a l

- - t o t h e Fe d e r a l c o u r t i n Lo u i s i a n a i n o r d e r t o p r o t e c t t h e j u r i s d i c t i o n o f t h e Fe d e r a l c o u r t i n Al a b a ma .

MR. AL S OBROOK: Ye s , s i r . QUE S TI ON: Ho w d o y o u s q u a r e t h a t wi t h t h e

l a n g u a g e , r e s p e c t i v e j u r i s d i c t i o n s ? MR. ALS OBROOK: We l l , Yo u r Ho n o r , t h e r e a g a i n we

h a d t o r e l y o n Ag e n t Or a n g e . QUE S TI ON: Yo u d o n ' t r e l y o n t h e s t a t u t e ,

t h o u g h . MR. ALS OBROOK: We l l , we r e l i e d o n t h e s t a t u t e

b e c a u s e i t s a y s i n t h e a i d o f t h e i r r e s p e c t i v e   j u r i s d i c t i o n , a n d - -

QUE S TI ON: Do n ' t y o u t h i n k t h a t r e f e r s t o t h e c o u r t t o wh i c h r e mo v a l wo u l d t a k e - - wo u l d o c c u r ? An d h e r e i t ' s t h e Lo u i s i a n a F e d e r a l c o u r t , n o t t h e Al a b a ma

F e d e r a l c o u r t .

MR. ALS OBROOK: Ye s , s i r , a n d we - - i t wa s o u r p o s i t i o n t h a t t h e r e - - t h e r e r e s p e c t i v e j u r i s d i c t i o n r e l a t e d t o t h e Al a b a ma c o u r t . Th a t i s o u r p o s i t i o n .

QUE S TI ON: Ev e n t h o u g h y o u r e mo v e d t o t h e L o u i s i a n a c o u r t .

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MR. AL SOBROOK: We h a d t o , Yo u r Ho n o r . T h a t - - u n d e r 1 4 4 1 , we h a d n o a l t e r n a t i v e b u t t o r e mo v e i t . We c o u l d n ' t h a v e r e mo v e d i t f r o m t h e Lo u i s i a n a c o u r t t o t h e Al a b a ma c o u r t b e c a u s e 1 4 4 1 b y v e n u e s a y s t h a t i t h a s t o g o t o t h e F e d e r a l d i s t r i c t c o u r t i n t h e - - o f t h e d i s t r i c t wh e r e t h e c a s e l i e s .

QUE S TI ON: Bu t 1 4 4 1 wa s n ' t a v a i l a b l e t o y o u . S o a s l o n g a s s o me t h i n g n e w i s b e i n g c r e a t e d i n - - u n d e r 1 6 5 1 , wh y n o t s a y t h a t - - t h a t t h e c o u r t t h a t h a s

  j u r i s d i c t i o n o v e r t h e c l a s s a c t i o n c a n i s s u e o r d e r s t o s t o p i n c o n s i s t e n t l i t i g a t i o n ?

MR. ALS OBROOK: Th a t c o u l d b e d o n e u n d e r t h e An t i - I n j u n c t i o n Ac t , Yo u r Ho n o r . Th e r e ' s n o d o u b t a b o u t t h a t . An d a s - - a s - -

QUE S TI ON: Bu t d o - - a s f a r a s - - y o u ' r e c r e a t i n g a r e mo v a l t h a t d o e s n ' t e x i s t b y s t a t u t e . S o n o t - - wh y n o t g o a l l t h e wa y a n d s a y , u n d e r t h e Al l Wr i t s Ac t , we c a n r e mo v e t o t h e - - f r o m t h e Lo u i s i a n a S t a t e c o u r t t o t h e Al a b a ma c o u r t ? Wh y t o u c h b a s e wi t h 1 4 4 1 wh e n

1 4 4 1 i s i n a p p l i c a b l e ?

MR. ALS OBROOK: Be c a u s e 1 4 - - we d i d n ' t k n o w o f  a n y o t h e r v e h i c l e t h a t wo u l d a l l o w u s t o r e mo v e i t f r o mL o u i s i a n a t o Al a b a ma . E v e n t h e Al l Wr i t s Ac t wo u l d n o t a l l o w u s t o r e mo v e i t a c r o s s S t a t e l i n e s o r e v e n o u t o f  t h e d i s t r i c t . Ce r t a i n l y i f t h i s c a s e h a d b e e n b r o u g h t i n

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Mo b i l e , t h e n we wo u l d n ' t b e h e r e t o d a y b e c a u s e t h e - - t h e c o u r t i n Mo b i l e wo u l d h a v e a u t h o r i t y t o - - t o r e mo v e i t t o t h a t d i s t r i c t . Bu t i t wa s b r o u g h t - - b r o u g h t a c r o s s St a t e l i n e s . An d a g a i n , we f o l l o we d t h e r o a d ma p t h a t h a d b e e n s e t o u t f o r u s i n Ag e n t Or a n g e .

QUE S TI ON: Bu t y o u s t i l l h a v e p r o b l e ms e v e n i f  i t we r e t o t h e Mi d d l e Di s t r i c t o f Al a b a ma , b e c a u s e y o u d o n ' t h a v e c o mp l e t e d i v e r s i t y i n t h e Lo u i s i a n a a c t i o n . T h e r e f o r e , 1 4 4 1 d o e s n ' t a p p l y . Yo u wo u l d s t i l l h a v e t o u s e y o u r Al l Wr i t s Ac t t h e o r y e v e n i f t h e c a s e we r e p e n d i n g - - i f t h e F e d e r a l a n d S t a t e c o u r t we r e i n t h e s a me S t a t e .

MR. ALS OBROOK: We l l , Yo u r Ho n o r , we f e e l t h a t - - t h a t u n d e r - - u n d e r t h e h y p o t h e t s e t o u t i n Ki k k o n e n t h a t t h e Al a b a ma c o u r t wo u l d h a v e h a d j u r i s d i c t i o n t o t a k e t h a t c a s e .

QUE S TI ON: Mr . Al s o b r o o k , wh a t i s - - wh a t i s t h i s wr i t c a l l e d ? I me a n , Ly n d o n J o h n s o n i s - - i s o n c e s u p p o s e d t o h a v e a s k e d s o me b o d y i n t h e J u s t i c e De p a r t me n t

t o g e t h i m a wr i t o f f i x i t a t i s .

( L a u g h t e r . ) QUE S TI ON: Wh a t - - wh a t i s t h i s wr i t c a l l e d ? A

wr i t o f r e mo v a l ? MR. ALS OBROOK: Th i s c o u l d b e a - - we l l , t h e r e

i s n o wr i t f o r t h i s , J u d g e - - J u s t i c e . Th e r e i s n ' t a n y

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wr i t f o r t h i s . QUE S TI ON: We l l - - we l l , t h e n h o w c a n y o u d o i t

u n d e r t h e Al l Wr i t s Ac t ? MR. ALS OBROOK: Be c a u s e i n o t h e r c a s e s , t h e Al l

Wr i t s Ac t h a s b e e n u s e d t o - - t o r e mo v e c a s e s t o a v o i d a S t a t e c o u r t c a s e f r o m t h wa r t i n g a F e d e r a l j u d g me n t .

QUE S TI ON: Ce r t i o r a r i I g u e s s i s t h e c l o s e s t . Hi s t o r i c a l l y y o u c o u l d h a v e s e n t c e r t i o r a r i - - a c o u r t t o a n y o t h e r c o u r t a n d t o a n y a d mi n i s t r a t i v e a g e n c y . I g u e s s t h a t wo u l d b e t h e c l o s e s t h i s t o r i c a l l y . Wo u l d i t ?

MR. ALS OBROOK: We l l , I t h i n k J u s t i c e Ke n n e d y b r o u g h t t h a t u p a n d - -

QUE S TI ON: Ye s . As we ' v e c o me t o l i mi t i t , i t ' s - - i t ' s h i g h e r t o l o we r , b u t i f y o u g o b a c k i n t o h i s t o r y , i t wa s n ' t , I d o n ' t t h i n k . I me a n , h a s i t c o me d o wn t o s a y i n g , l o o k , y o u we r e i n a s i t u a t i o n wh e r e y o u t h o u g h t t h a t t h e s i g n e r o f t h e s t i p u l a t i o n wa s f l a t o u t v i o l a t i n g i t , a n d y o u d i d n ' t k n o w wh a t t o d o , s o y o u r e a d t h e p r e c e d e n t , a n d t h e r e wa s p r e c e d e n t t h a t s u g g e s t e d , u n d e r

t h e l o we r c o u r t p r e c e d e n t , t h a t t h i s wa s t h e r i g h t t h i n g t o d o . S o y o u d i d i t .

MR. AL S OBROOK: Ye s , s i r . QUE S TI ON: Ok a y . No w, i f y o u t u r n o u t t o b e

wr o n g , wh a t s h o u l d we d o n e x t , a s s u mi n g y o u ' r e r i g h t a b o u t t h e s t i p u l a t i o n ? T h e y j u s t f l a t - o u t wo u l d n ' t f o l l o w i t .

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An d - - a n d s u p p o s e y o u we r e wr o n g a b o u t t h e r o u t e . Ha v e y o u a n y s u g g e s t i o n f o r u s a s t o wh a t t o d o ? Do we - - I g u e s s we ' d h a v e t o d i s mi s s - - o r d e r t h i s c a s e d i s mi s s e d wi t h o u t p r e j u d i c e t o y o u r g o i n g t o t h e Al a b a ma c o u r t a n d - - a n d a s k i n g t h e m t o e n j o i n ? Or wh a t i s y o u r s u g g e s t i o n a b o u t wh a t we s h o u l d d o - -

MR . AL S OB ROOK: We l l - - QUE S TI ON: - - i f y o u ' r e r i g h t o n t h e me r i t s o f  

t h i s t h i n g ? MR. ALS OBROOK: I f we ' r e r i g h t o n t h e me r i t s ,

Yo u r Ho n o r , wh a t I s u g g e s t y o u s h o u l d d o i s r e v e r s e t h e E l e v e n t h Ci r c u i t .

QUE S TI ON: I d o n ' t me a n t h e me r i t s o f t h e p r o c e d u r a l i s s u e . S u p p o s e t h a t y o u ' r e wr o n g a b o u t t h a t , h y p o t h e t i c a l l y , b u t y o u ' r e r i g h t a b o u t y o u r b a s i c i n s t i n c t , t h a t t h e y s i g n e d a p i e c e o f p a p e r s a y i n g , we p r o mi s e t o d i s mi s s t h i s c a s e i n t h e S t a t e c o u r t a n d t h e n t h e y d i d n ' t . T h e y j u s t d i d n ' t d o i t . Th a t wa s y o u r v i e wo f t h i s . Ri g h t ?

MR. AL S OBROOK: Ye s , s i r . QUE S TI ON: Al l r i g h t . S o h a v e y o u a n y

s u g g e s t i o n f o r u s a b o u t h o w we mi g h t h e l p y o u a c h i e v e t h a t u l t i ma t e o b j e c t i v e , a n d b y u s , I d o n ' t me a n t h i s Co u r t p a r t i c u l a r l y . I me a n t h e l a w. T h e l a w s h o u l d p r o v i d e a wa y t h a t y o u g e t t h a t o b j e c t i v e i f y o u ' r e r i g h t .

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MR. ALS OBROOK: I wo u l d - - t h e a l t e r n a t i v e I wo u l d s u g g e s t i s t o r e ma n d t h e ma t t e r t o t h e F e d e r a l d i s t r i c t c o u r t i n Mo b i l e wi t h i n s t r u c t i o n s f o r t h e m t o f i l e a n i n j u n c t i o n o r a c o n t e mp t p r o c e e d i n g a g a i n s t t h e p a r t y - -

QUE S TI ON: Bu t t h a t wo u l d b e u p t o y o u t o - - I me a n , t h e c o u r t d o e s n ' t i n i t i a t e a n i n j u n c t i o n . Yo u ' d h a v e t o a s k f o r i t . An d I a s s u me y o u wo u l d b e f r e e t o d o i t . I f a l l t h i s Co u r t wo u l d d e c i d e , i f i t d e c i d e d a g a i n s t y o u , wa s t h a t t h e Al l Wr i t s Ac t i s n o t a v a i l a b l e f o r t h i s p u r p o s e , t h a t wo u l d l e a v e y o u a s t h o u g h y o u h a d n e v e r p u r s u e d t h a t r o u t e a n d y o u c o u l d p u r s u e a n o t h e r .

Th e r e ' s s o me t h i n g c u r i o u s a b o u t t h i s c a s e , a n d ma y b e y o u c a n - - y o u c a n h e l p me u n d e r s t a n d i t . Wh e n t h e p l a i n t i f f ' s c l a s s c o u n s e l i n Pr i c e we n t i n t o t h e Lo u i s i a n a c o u r t a n d s a i d , Lo u i s i a n a c o u r t , d r o p t h a t c a s e , d i s mi s s t h a t c a s e , t h e d e f e n s e c o u n s e l wa s n ' t t h e r e .

MR. ALSOBROOK: No . QUE S T I ON: Wh y n o t ?

MR. ALS OBROOK: Yo u r Ho n o r , t h i s i s n o t i n t h e

r e c o r d b u t I wa s t h a t c o u n s e l , a n d I h a d t a l k e d wi t h t h e c l a s s c o u n s e l d a y s b e f o r e , a n d h e a s s u r e d me t h a t h e wo u l d t a k e c a r e o f i t a n d t h e r e wo u l d b e n o p r o b l e m. We d i d n ' t a n t i c i p a t e t h i s h a p p e n i n g b e c a u s e t h e l a n g u a g e o f t h e s t i p u l a t i o n o f s e t t l e me n t , wh i c h t h e r e s p o n d e n t s i g n e d ,

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wa s s o s p e c i f i c t h a t we c o u l d n ' t i ma g i n e t h a t t h e St a t e c o u r t j u d g e wo u l d n o t d i s mi s s i t o n t h e mo t i o n o f c l a s s c o u n s e l .

QUE S TI ON: S o y o u we r e r e l y i n g o n p l a i n t i f f ' s c o u n s e l - -

MR. AL S OBROOK: Ye s , ma ' a m. QUE S TI ON: - - t o d o - - t o d o t h a t j o b f o r y o u

a n d f e l t y o u d i d n ' t n e e d t o a p p e a r i n t h e S t a t e c o u r t . MR. ALS OBROOK: He a c t u a l l y t o l d u s we d i d n ' t

h a v e t o a p p e a r , t h a t h e wo u l d t a k e c a r e o f i t . QUE S TI ON: Mr . Al s o b r o o k , i f we d i s a g r e e wi t h

y o u a n d r e v e r s e t h e - - a n d a f f i r m t h e El e v e n t h Ci r c u i t , we wo u l d b e a f f i r mi n g a d e c i s i o n t h a t s a y s i n i t s c o n c l u s i o n , we a c c o r d i n g l y v a c a t e t h e d i s t r i c t c o u r t ' s o r d e r d i s mi s s i n g He n s o n a n d r e ma n d wi t h i n s t r u c t i o n s f o r t h e c o u r t t o r e ma n d He n s o n t o Lo u i s i a n a S t a t e c o u r t .

We d o n o t , h o we v e r - - t h i s i s p a r t o f wh a t i t s a i d - - we d o n o t , h o we v e r , i mp l y t h a t t h e d i s t r i c t c o u r t ma y n o t b y i n j u n c t i o n f o r c e He n s o n ' s d i s mi s s a l . S o , y o u

k n o w, we wo u l d n ' t h a v e t o s a y t h a t - - t h a t o u r d e c i s i o n h e r e wa s wi t h o u t p r e j u d i c e . Th e d e c i s i o n o f t h e E l e v e n t h Ci r c u i t wa s s a i d t o b e wi t h o u t p r e j u d i c e . S o y o u - - y o u ' d b e a b l e t o , a s f a r a s t h e E l e v e n t h Ci r c u i t o p i n i o n i s c o n c e r n e d , g e t - - g e t t h e i n j u n c t i o n .

MR. ALS OBROOK: Ye s , s i r , b u t t h e - -

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QUES TI ON: I wo n d e r wh y i t wa s n ' t - - wa s n ' t mo r e e f f i c i e n t f o r y o u t o s e e k t h e i n j u n c t i o n i n s t e a d o f c o mi n g u p h e r e .

MR . AL S OB ROOK: We l l - - QUE S TI ON: I g u e s s - - I g u e s s - - MR. ALS OBROOK: - - J u s t i c e Sc a l i a - - QUE S TI ON: - - y o u r a n s we r i s b e t t e r t o h a v e t wo

b i t e s a t t h e a p p l e t h a n o n e . Ri g h t ? MR. AL SOBROOK: Ye s , s i r . An d - - QUE S TI ON: Ev e n i f y o u l o s e h e r e , y o u c a n t h e n

s e e k t h e i n j u n c t i o n . MR. ALS OBROOK: An d a l s o b e c a u s e t h e ma j o r i t y o f  

t h e c i r c u i t s h a v e a p p r o v e d t h e p r o c e d u r e s t h a t we f o l l o we d i n t h i s c a s e . Yo u h a v e t h e S e c o n d Ci r c u i t ; y o u h a v e t h e S i x t h , S e v e n t h , a n d E i g h t h . An d - -

QUE S TI ON: We l l , wh a t wa s t h e r e a s o n i n g o f t h o s e c i r c u i t s ?

MR. ALS OBROOK: Th e r e a s o n i n g o f t h o s e c i r c u i t s we r e t h a t t h e y h a d r e t a i n e d j u r i s d i c t i o n t o e n f o r c e t h e i r

  j u d g me n t s . F o r e x a mp l e , i f y o u t a k e NAACP I I - - r a t h e r , NAACP I , t h e c o u r t r e ma n d e d t h e c a s e t o t h e c i r c u i t c o u r t . NAACP I I , t h e c o u r t s a i d t h a t b e c a u s e t h e y h a d r e t a i n e d

  j u r i s d i c t i o n i n a n o r d e r , t h a t t h e y c o u l d g o f o r wa r d u n d e r t h e Al l Wr i t s Ac t .

QUE S TI ON: An d wh a t - - d i d t h e y s p e c i f y wh a t

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k i n d o f a wr i t i t wa s t h e y we r e t a l k i n g a b o u t ? MR. AL S OBROOK: No , s i r . QUE S TI ON: I s h o u l d t h i n k t h a t mi g h t h a v e ma d e

y o u a l i t t l e h e s i t a n t t o r e l y . MR . AL S OB ROOK: We l l - - QUE S TI ON: I t ' s a g o o d d e f e n s e t o a ma l p r a c t i c e

a c t i o n . MR. ALS OBROOK: We l l , we h a d t o r e l y o n wh a t t h e

c o u r t s we r e t e l l i n g u s , Yo u r Ho n o r - - I me a n , Mr . Ch i e f  J u s t i c e .

QUE S TI ON: We r e t h o s e c a s e s i n wh i c h t h e r e we r e t wo - - t wo d i f f e r e n t d i s t r i c t s i n v o l v e d ?

MR. ALS OBROOK: Th e Ag e n t Or a n g e c a s e , t h e r e we r e t wo d i f f e r e n t d i s t r i c t s , y e s .

QUE S TI ON: Bu t a l l o f t h e m we r e n o t , we r e t h e y ? MR. ALSOBROOK: No . QUE S TI ON: We r e n ' t s o me o f t h e m - - y e s . I t s e e ms t o me i t ' s q u i t e d i f f e r e n t i f y o u ' r e

r e ma n d i n g t o t h e c o u r t wh e r e t h e p r o b l e m a r o s e t h a n

r e ma n d i n g t o a d i f f e r e n t c o u r t . MR. ALS OBROOK: Th a t ' s r i g h t . QUE S TI ON: Ye s . Or r e mo v i n g , r a t h e r . MR. ALS OBROOK: Th a t ' s r i g h t . QUE S TI ON: Do y o u wi s h t o s a v e t h e - - MR. AL S OBROOK: Ye s , s i r .

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QUES TI ON: - - r e ma i n d e r o f y o u r t i me f o r r e b u t t a l ?

MR . AL S OB ROOK: T h a n k y o u . QUE S TI ON: Ve r y we l l . Mr . Be d e r ma n .

ORAL ARGUMENT OF DAVI D J . BEDERMANON BEHALF OF THE RESPONDENT

MR. BEDE RMAN: Mr . Ch i e f J u s t i c e , a n d ma y i t p l e a s e t h e Co u r t :

Th e Al l Wr i t s Ac t ma y n o t b e r e l i e d u p o n t o r e mo v e a n o t h e r wi s e u n r e mo v a b l e c a s e . I t i s Co n g r e s s ' s p r o v i n c e t o d e f i n e t h e l i mi t s o f r e mo v a l , a n d c h i e f o f  t h e s e i s t h e r e q u i r e me n t o f o r i g i n a l j u r i s d i c t i o n i n F e d e r a l c o u r t .

QUE S TI ON: Mr . Be d e r ma n , I j u s t a s k e d y o u r - - y o u r f r i e n d t o - - t o e x p l a i n wh y h e wa s u p h e r e . Wh y a r e y o u u p h e r e ? Be c a u s e e v e n i f y o u wi n , t h e c a s e wi l l - - y o u k n o w, d o n ' t y o u t h i n k t h a t a n i n j u n c t i o n wi l l i s s u e ?

MR. BEDE RMAN: Ve r y l i k e l y Mr . Al s o b r o o k wi l l

a p p l y , a s t h e E l e v e n t h Ci r c u i t i n v i t e d t h e m t o , f o r a n i n j u n c t i o n . S u c h a n i n j u n c t i o n c o u l d p r o c e e d b e c a u s e u n d e r t h i s C o u r t ' s d e c i s i o n i n P a r s o n s S t e e l , t h e St a t e c o u r t h a s y e t t o i s s u e a c o n c l u s i v e r u l i n g a b o u t p r e c l u s i v e e f f e c t . An d t h e r e f o r e , t h e y ' r e a t l i b e r t y t o . We a r e , b y n o me a n s , c o n c e d i n g t h e - - t h e s u b s t a n t i v e

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me r i t s o f t h e i n j u n c t i o n mo t i o n wh e t h e r t h e y wo u l d h a v e a s u b s t a n t i a l l i k e l i h o o d o f s u c c e s s o n t h e me r i t s , b u t we wo u l d c e r t a i n l y a g r e e t h a t t h e y h a v e t h e a b i l i t y t o f i l e a n i n j u n c t i o n i mme d i a t e l y .

QUE S TI ON: Wh y - - wh y - - o k a y . Wh a t - - wh a t i s a t i s s u e o n t h e me r i t s ?

MR. BEDE RMAN: Th e i s s u e o n t h e me r i t s wo u l d b e p r e s u ma b l y t h e p r o p e r c o n s t r u c t i o n o f t h e s e t t l e me n t a g r e e me n t - -

QUE S TI ON: Of t h e s e t t l e me n t a g r e e me n t ? MR. BEDE RMAN: Th a t ' s r i g h t . An d , o f c o u r s e ,

wh e t h e r a n i n j u n c t i o n , n a r r o wl y t a i l o r e d t o t h e p a r t i e s , wo u l d , a s - - a s t h e J u s t i c e s h a v e a l r e a d y i n d i c a t e d , b e p r o p e r l y a d d r e s s e d t o t h e p a r t i e s t o o r d e r d i s mi s s a l o f  t h e c a s e .

QUE S TI ON: Ok a y . S o y o u - - y o u wo u l d - - y o u wo u l d c o n t e s t t h e i n j u n c t i o n j u s t a s y o u ' r e - -

MR. BEDE RMAN: We wo u l d c o n t e s t t h e me r i t s o f  t h e i n j u n c t i o n . We wo u l d n o t c o n t e x t t h e a b i l i t y o f t h e m

t o f i l e f o r t h e - -

QUE S TI ON: Yo u c a n s a y i n a s e n t e n c e - - a s I r e a d t h i s , i t s a y s , c l a s s c o u n s e l h e r e b y s t i p u l a t e s t h a t t h e r e l a t e d c a s e , i n c l u d i n g a n y a n d a l l c l a i ms , wi l l b e d i s mi s s e d . An d t h e n i t d e f i n e s r e l a t e d c a s e t o r e f e r t o Hu r l e y He n s o n b y n u mb e r i n t h e S t a t e o f Lo u i s i a n a .

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MR. BEDE RMAN: Th a t ' s r i g h t , J u s t i c e Br e y e r . QUE S TI ON: S o I ' m j u s t c u r i o u s wh a t t h e d e f e n s e

wo u l d b e . MR. BEDE RMAN: Th e o n l y d e f e n s e t h a t - - t h a t I

c o u l d i ma g i n e i s t h e a mb i g u i t y i n t h a t p r o v i s i o n , a s y o u we r e r e a d i n g , a t 3 8 a o f t h e j o i n t a p p e n d i x , t h a t t h e c o n c e r n a b o u t wh e t h e r i n c l u d i n g a n y a n d a l l c l a i ms , i n c l u d i n g wi t h o u t a n y l i mi t a t i o n a n y c l a i ms d e f i n e d h e r e i n . An d wh a t h a s n o t b e e n ma d e c l e a r i s t h a t t h e r e we r e s u b s e q u e n t a me n d me n t s t o t h e s t i p u l a t i o n , wh i c h ma d e c l e a r t h a t c e r t a i n c l a s s e s o f c l a i ms we r e e x c l u d e d .

QUE S TI ON: We l l , I g u e s s t h a t i s n ' t b e f o r e u s h e r e - -

QUE S TI ON: I t ' s n o t b e f o r e u s . QUE S TI ON: - - i s i t ? MR. BEDE RMAN: Ce r t a i n l y n o t , J u s t i c e O' Co n n o r .

Wh a t ' s b e f o r e t h i s Co u r t i s wh a t i s t h e p r o p e r p r o c e d u r a l me c h a n i s m t o b e u s e d h e r e .

QUE S TI ON: An d s e v e r a l c i r c u i t s h a v e a l l o we d t h e

Al l Wr i t s Ac t t o b e u s e d i n t h i s f a s h i o n , d o y o u t h i n k ? MR. BEDE RMAN: I n t h i s f a s h i o n ? Ye s , J u s t i c e

O' Co n n o r . Th a t c l e a r l y t h i s i s wh a t I wo u l d c h a r a c t e r i z e a s a n e wf a n g l e d p r o c e d u r a l d e v i c e t h a t wa s l a u n c h e d b y t h e S e c o n d Ci r c u i t a f t e r t h e Yo n k e r s a n d Ag e n t Or a n g e c a s e s ; t h a t i t h a s d e v e l o p e d , a s I t h i n k Mr . Al s o b r o o k f a i r l y

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c h a r a c t e r i z e s , a mo me n t u m o f i t s o wn i n t h e c o u r t o f  a p p e a l s .

QUE S TI ON: I n t h e Yo n k e r s c a s e , t h e Un i t e d S t a t e s Go v e r n me n t u r g e d t h e c o u r t t o t a k e t h a t p o s i t i o n , d i d n ' t i t ? S o i t wa s n ' t s o me t h i n g n e wf a n g l e d t h a t t h e c o u r t d r e a me d u p o n i t s o wn wh e n i t wa s t h e De p a r t me n t o f  J u s t i c e u r g i n g i t .

MR. BEDE RMAN: Th a t i s t r u e , b u t my r e c o l l e c t i o n o f - - o f t h e p r o c e d u r a l b a c k g r o u n d wi t h t h e Yo n k e r s c a s e wa s t h a t t h e r e wa s s o me c o n c e r n a b o u t h o w J u d g e S a n d d r a f t e d t h e c o n s e n t d e c r e e i n t h a t c a s e . He - - a s wa s l a t e r a c k n o wl e d g e d , J u d g e S a n d h a d b e e n p e r h a p s mi s l e d b y c e r t a i n r e p r e s e n t a t i o n s ma d e b y t h e Ar c h d i o c e s e o f Ne wYo r k a n d t h e r e f o r e h e d i d n o t i n c l u d e a p r o v i s i o n t h a t wo u l d a l l o w f o r a s u b s e q u e n t i n j u n c t i o n o r - - o r a r e t e n t i o n o f j u r i s d i c t i o n . T h a t ma y h a v e l e d t h e c o u r t i n t h a t c i r c u ms t a n c e t o i n v o k e Al l Wr i t s Ac t .

Bu t t h e r e , a g a i n , t h e c o mp l e t e a l t e r n a t i v e wa s a n i n j u n c t i o n t h a t c o u l d h a v e i s s u e d i n t h e s e Ne w Yo r k

l a n d u s e p r o c e e d i n g s t h a t we r e p e n d i n g i n S t a t e c o u r t . S o e v e n i n Yo n k e r s , wh i c h p r e s e n t s , I t h i n k , a n a l y t i c a l l y a v e r y d i f f e r e n t c o n t e x t h e r e , n o t a p r e c l u s i o n c a s e , n o t a c a s e t h a t t u r n s o n t h e c o n s t r u c t i o n o f a n e a r l i e r F e d e r a l c o u r t j u d g me n t o r s e t t l e me n t , t h e r e wa s t h e a v a i l a b i l i t y o f i n j u n c t i v e r e l i e f . I n t h a t c a s e , t h e S e c o n d Ci r c u i t

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b y p a s s e d t h a t - - t h a t r e a s o n i n g a n d we n t s t r a i g h t t o wa r d s a n Al l Wr i t s Ac t b a s i s - -

QUE S TI ON: Bu t y o u s a i d y o u wo u l d d e f e n d a g a i n s t i n j u n c t i v e r e l i e f o n t h e g r o u n d t h a t t h e s e t t l e me n t wa s n a r r o we r t h a n - -

MR. BEDE RMAN: We wo u l d d e f e n d e s s e n t i a l l y o n t h e me r i t s , i s t h a t a n i n j u n c t i o n s h o u l d n o t i s s u e b e c a u s e o u r c o n s t r u c t i o n o f - - o f t h e s e t t l e me n t i s - -

QUE S TI ON: We l l , wh y d i d n ' t y o u s e e k t h a t c o n s t r u c t i o n f r o m t h e c o u r t t h a t i s s u e d - - t h a t - - t h a t e n t e r e d t h e s e t t l e me n t ? Wh y g o t o a n o t h e r F e d e r a l c o u r t ? L o u i s i a n a d o e s n ' t k n o w a n y t h i n g a b o u t t h i s c a s e - - i n s t e a d o f s a y i n g , Al a b a ma F e d e r a l Di s t r i c t J u d g e , p l e a s e c l a r i f y t h e s c o p e o f t h e s e t t l e me n t s o t h a t we c a n e i t h e r g o o n wi t h o u r c a s e o r k n o w t h a t we c a n ' t ?

MR. BEDE RMAN: We b e l i e v e t h a t t h e p r o p e r c o u r s e i s - - i n v i e w o f t h e p r e c i s e e n u me r a t i o n o f t h e - - o f t h e c a s e i n S t a t e c o u r t , t h a t t h e p r o p e r c o u r s e wa s t o a me n d t h e p e t i t i o n a n d s e e k a r e s o l u t i o n .

Mr . He n s o n a n d h i s c o u n s e l c o u l d h a v e v e r y we l l

i n i t i a t e d a n e n t i r e l y n e w c a s e a n d e v a d e d t h e t e r ms o f - - o f t h e s e t t l e me n t i n t h a t f a s h i o n . Th e y a g r e e d a n d d e c i d e d t h a t t h e p r o p e r c o u r s e , t h e mo r e f o r t h r i g h t c o u r s e wa s t o s e e k l e a v e t o a me n d t h e p e t i t i o n t o ma k e c l e a r t h a t c e r t a i n c l a i ms we r e d r o p p e d b y v i r t u e o f t h e e a r l i e r

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s e t t l e me n t , b u t t h e r e we r e r e ma i n i n g c l a i ms i n p l a y . An d i t wa s b e l i e v e d t h a t t h i s wa s t h e mo s t f o r t h r i g h t a p p r o a c h t o - - t o u s e h e r e .

I wo u l d c r e d i t , J u s t i c e Gi n s b u r g , t h a t i t ma y h a v e b e e n e q u a l l y a p p r o p r i a t e t o g o b a c k t o t h e F e d e r a l c o u r t , s e e k a d e c l a r a t o r y j u d g me n t o r s o me k i n d o f  d e c i s i o n i n t h a t f a s h i o n . Bu t I b e l i e v e t h a t t h i s c o u r s e wa s c e r t a i n l y h o n e s t a n d f o r t h r i g h t o n t h e p a r t o f c o u n s e l b e l o w.

I - - I h a r d l y t h i n k i t ma y b e n e c e s s a r y t o i n d i c a t e t h a t t h e Al l Wr i t s Ac t d o e s n o t c o n f e r

  j u r i s d i c t i o n u n d e r 1 4 4 1 , a s wa s a l r e a d y ma d e c l e a r i nc e r t a i n l y t h e q u e s t i o n i n g a n d c e r t a i n l y i n v i e w o f  p e t i t i o n e r s ' d i s c u s s i o n . Or i g i n a l j u r i s d i c t i o n h a s a l wa y s b e e n r e q u i r e d a n d h a s b e e n u p h e l d i n c o u n t l e s s c a s e s . An d mo r e o v e r , t h e Al l Wr i t s Ac t t e x t u a l l y d e ma n d s t h a t F e d e r a l c o u r t s i s s u e wr i t s , q u o t e , " i n a i d o f t h e i r r e s p e c t i v e

 j u r i s d i c t i o n . " P e t i t i o n e r s ' a r g u me n t e s s e n t i a l l y wo u l d r e a d o u t

" r e s p e c t i v e " f r o m t h a t p r o v i s i o n i n t h e Al l Wr i t s Ac t i n s e c t i o n 1 6 5 1 . Cl e a r l y t h e Al l Wr i t s Ac t d o e s n o t i n d e p e n d e n t l y g r a n t o r i g i n a l j u r i s d i c t i o n , a n d t h i s h a s b e e n c o n s i s t e n t l y u p h e l d b y t h i s Co u r t f o r n e a r l y 2 0 0 y e a r s f r o m t h e Mc I n t i r e d e c i s i o n i n 1 8 1 3 t o a s r e c e n t l y a s Cl i n t o n v . Go l d s mi t h i n 1 9 9 9 .

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Mo r e o v e r , i s s u a n c e o f wr i t s u n d e r t h e Al l Wr i t s Ac t i s c e r t a i n l y c o n d i t i o n e d b y t h e s t a t u t o r y r e q u i r e me n t t h a t s u c h b e n e c e s s a r y o r a p p r o p r i a t e . An d a s t h i s Co u r t i n d i c a t e d i n Pe n n s y l v a n i a Bu r e a u o f Co r r e c t i o n s , t h i s i s e s s e n t i a l l y a t h r e s h o l d r e q u i r e me n t f o r i n v o c a t i o n o f t h e Al l Wr i t s Ac t . An d i n t h e Go l d s mi t h c a s e , a s r e c e n t l y a s 3 o r 4 y e a r s a g o , t h i s Co u r t ma d e c l e a r t h a t t h e Al l Wr i t s Ac t c a n ' t b e u s e d a s a f o r m o f c u r e - a l l t o - - t o f i x wh a t wo u l d o t h e r wi s e b e t h e a v a i l a b i l i t y o f o t h e r s t a t u t o r y me c h a n i s ms wh i c h a r e n o t o t h e r wi s e c o mp l i e d wi t h .

QUE S TI ON: Wh a t wo u l d b e wr o n g wi t h t h e El e v e n t h Ci r c u i t s a y i n g i n s u b s t a n c e i t ' s t h e s a me t h i n g ? Wh a t we ' r e t r y i n g t o d o i s t o s t o p t h i s l i t i g a t i o n f r o m g o i n g f o r wa r d i n Lo u i s i a n a . S o e v e n t h o u g h t h e d e f e n d a n t s u s e d t h e wr o n g d e v i c e , we ' l l t r e a t i t a s t h o u g h i t h a d b e e n i n a p p l i c a t i o n f o r a n a n t i s u i t i n j u n c t i o n ? .

MR. BEDE RMAN: We l l , i f - - i f , o f c o u r s e , t h e E l e v e n t h Ci r c u i t h a d c o n s t r u e d p e t i t i o n e r s ' f i l i n g s i n t h a t wa y a n d - - a n d h a d i n d i c a t e d t h a t i n j u n c t i o n wa s t h e

p r o p e r mo d e a n d e s s e n t i a l l y s u b s t i t u t e d , a s t h e y - - a s t h e y s e e m t o i n v i t e i n t h e i r c l o s i n g l i n e s o f t h e i r d e c i s i o n , I t h i n k t h a t wo u l d b e a p p r o p r i a t e . Bu t t h e r e i s c e r t a i n l y a d i f f e r e n c e i n f o r m a n d i n c o n t e n t b e t we e n a r e mo v a l a n d a n a r r o wl y t a i l o r e d i n j u n c t i o n , a n d I t h i n k t h e El e v e n t h Ci r c u i t wa s c o r r e c t .

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An d o t h e r c o u r t s o f a p p e a l s t h a t h a v e s o h e l d h a v e i n d i c a t e d t h a t t h e r e a r e p r o f o u n d f e d e r a l i s m c o n c e r n s t h a t a r e i mp l i c a t e d i n a l l o wi n g e s s e n t i a l l y a c o mmo n l a wwr i t o f r e mo v a l t o b e u s e d t o e v a d e wh a t i s C o n g r e s s ' s r o l e i n d i c t a t i n g t h e me c h a n i s m f o r r e mo v a l a n d - - a n d p a t r o l l i n g t h e b o u n d a r y a n d t h e b a l a n c e o f a u t h o r i t y b e t we e n S t a t e c o u r t s a n d Fe d e r a l c o u r t s i n t h i s c o u n t r y .

Th e r e i s , a s - - a s t h e Co u r t i n d i c a t e d , n o s u c h t h i n g a s a - - a s a c o mmo n l a w wr i t o f r e mo v a l . Th e r e wa s n o a n a l o g y i n En g l i s h c o mmo n l a w a t t h e t i me o f t h e f o u n d i n g . Th e - - a wr i t o f c e r t i o r a r i , a s J u s t i c e Br e y e r i n d i c a t e d , wo u l d h a v e b e e n - - c o u l d h a v e b e e n p o t e n t i a l l y d i r e c t e d , I wo u l d a g r e e , t o - - t o c o u r t s . Bu t i n n o c i r c u ms t a n c e wa s t h e r e a n a l o g y i n En g l i s h c o mmo n l a w f o r t h e c o u r t o f o n e s o v e r e i g n t o r e mo v e c a s e s f r o m - - f r o ma n o t h e r s o v e r e i g n . An d u n l e s s we d e l v e i n t o a k i n d o f  o b s c u r a n t i s t l e g a l h i s t o r y , I t h i n k t h a t wo u l d b e c l e a r . Bu t t h e r e wa s , i n f a c t , n o a n a l o g y f o r t h a t . An d i n t r u t h , t h e r e ' s n o s u c h t h i n g a s a wr i t o f r e mo v a l - -

QUE S TI ON: Ad mi n i s t r a t i v e a g e n c i e s . MR. BEDE RMAN: I p r e s u me t h a t i n En g l i s h c o mmo n

l a w, t o t h e e x t e n t t h a t a d mi n i s t r a t i v e a g e n c i e s e x i s t e d , t h e o n e s I ' m a wa r e o f , o f c o u r s e , we r e q u i t e i n c h o a t e . I t ' s p o t e n t i a l t h a t y o u - -

QUE S TI ON: S e we r c o mmi s s i o n e r s , I t h i n k i s - -

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MR. BEDE RMAN: Th a t ' s r i g h t . Or - - o r s a n i t a r y c o mmi s s i o n s i n Lo n d o n . On e mi g h t i ma g i n e t h a t .

Bu t a g a i n , a t i s s u e h e r e i s - - i s r e mo v a l , wh i c h t h i s C o u r t h a s a l wa y s i n d i c a t e d i s a c r e a t u r e o f s t a t u t e b e c a u s e o f t h e p r o f o u n d f e d e r a l i s m c o n c e r n s .

An d e s s e n t i a l l y wh a t - - wh a t p e t i t i o n e r s wo u l d h a v e t h i s Co u r t d o i s a l l o w, b y u s e o f t h e Al l Wr i t s Ac t o r a n a l o g o u s t h e o r i e s o f a n c i l l a r y e n f o r c e me n t

  j u r i s d i c t i o n , t o a c h i e v e wh a t i s o t h e r wi s e u n a v a i l a b l e b y s t a t u t e . An d a s t h i s Co u r t c l e a r l y s a i d i n t h e P e n n s y l v a n i a Bu r e a u o f Co r r e c t i o n s c a s e , a l t h o u g h t h e Al l Wr i t s Ac t e mp o we r s F e d e r a l c o u r t s t o f a s h i o n e x t r a o r d i n a r y r e me d i e s wh e n t h e n e e d a r i s e s , i t d o e s n o t a u t h o r i z e t h e mt o i s s u e a d h o c wr i t s wh e n e v e r c o mp l i a n c e wi t h s t a t u t o r y p r o c e d u r e s a p p e a r s i n c o n v e n i e n t o r l e s s a p p r o p r i a t e .

I f I c a n s a y j u s t a wo r d o r t wo a b o u t a n c i l l a r y e n f o r c e me n t j u r i s d i c t i o n , t o t h e e x t e n t t o wh i c h p e t i t i o n e r s a p p e a r t o b e r e l y i n g o n i t . T h i s Co u r t h a s s a i d v e r y c l e a r l y i n b o t h Ki k k o n e n , wh e r e t h e Co u r t

i n d i c a t e d t h a t a n c i l l a r y e n f o r c e me n t j u r i s d i c t i o n ma y b e u s e d i n v i e w o f wh a t c o u r t s r e q u i r e t o p e r f o r m t h e i r f u n c t i o n s , a n d i n Pe a c o c k , wh e r e t h e Co u r t ma d e v e r y c l e a r t h a t a n c i l l a r y e n f o r c e me n t j u r i s d i c t i o n i s a c r e a t u r e o f  n e c e s s i t y , t h e r e c a n b e n o s h o wi n g o f n e c e s s i t y h e r e b y v i r t u e o f t h e a v a i l a b i l i t y o f a l t e r n a t e me c h a n i s ms ,

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wh e t h e r i n t h e f o r m o f a n i n j u n c t i o n p r o p e r l y i s s u e d a g a i n s t t h e p a r t i e s a n d c o n s i s t e n t wi t h t h e r e l i t i g a t i o n e x c e p t i o n u n d e r t h e An t i - I n j u n c t i o n Ac t , o r e v e n , p r e f e r a b l y , r e c o u r s e t o S t a t e c o u r t s t o p r o p e r l y r u l e o n t h e p r e c l u s i v e e f f e c t o f e a r l i e r F e d e r a l c o u r t j u d g me n t s a n d s e t t l e me n t s , a s t h i s Co u r t ma d e c l e a r .

QUE S TI ON: Wh a t a b o u t c o n t e mp t ? I s u p p o s e y o u c o u l d h a v e b e e n - - y o u r c l i e n t c o u l d h a v e b e e n h e l d i n c o n t e mp t i n t h a t c o u r t , c o u l d n ' t i t ? I me a n , a s s u mi n g y o u ' r e wr o n g - - t h a t h e ' s r i g h t - -

MR. BEDE RMAN: I n t h e - - i n t h e F e d e r a l c o u r t . An d o f c o u r s e , o b v i o u s l y s a n c t i o n s we r e i mp o s e d b e l o w b y t h e F e d e r a l d i s t r i c t c o u r t , a n d t h a t ' s , o f c o u r s e , n o t - - n o l o n g e r a t i s s u e b e f o r e t h i s C o u r t , b u t t h a t c o u r t h a s t h a t p o we r .

S o c e r t a i n l y t h e r e a r e a v a r i e t y o f me c h a n i s ms t o e n s u r e c o mp l i a n c e wi t h - - wi t h c o u r t o r d e r s . I t i s n o t r e s p o n d e n t ' s s u b mi s s i o n t o s u g g e s t t h a t we t a k e a n i mp o r t a n t t o o l o u t o f t h e t o o l b o x o f F e d e r a l c o u r t s i n

o r d e r t o ma i n t a i n t h e d i g n i t y a n d t h e e n f o r c e me n t o f t h e i r

  j u d g me n t s . Bu t - -QUE S TI ON: A n u mb e r o f c o u r t s t h a t h a v e a l l o we d

t h e 1 6 5 1 Al l Wr i t s r e mo v a l h a v e s a i d t h a t t h e y t h o u g h t t h a t t h a t wa s l e s s o f f e n s i v e . Th a t wa s mo r e f a i t h f u l t o t h e f e d e r a l i s m c o n c e r n , t h a t - - t h a t i s s u i n g a n a n t i s u i t

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i n j u n c t i o n wa s mo r e o f f e n s i v e t o t h e S t a t e t h a n t h i s r e mo v a l d e v i c e .

MR. BEDE RMAN: I wo u l d r e s p e c t f u l l y d i s a g r e e wi t h t h a t c h a r a c t e r i z a t i o n . Th e a s s u mp t i o n s e e ms t o b e t h a t t h e i n j u n c t i o n wo u l d s o me h o w i s s u e t o t h e S t a t e c o u r t , a n d a s o f c o u r s e we a l l k n o w, t h a t wo u l d n e v e r b e t h e c a s e . Th a t t r u l y wo u l d b e o f f e n s i v e . Th e - - t h e i n j u n c t i o n wo u l d i s s u e t o t h e p a r t i e s , h o we v e r , wi t h i n s t r u c t i o n s t o - - t o d i s mi s s o r a n e v e n ma y b e e v e n mo r e n a r r o wl y t a i l o r e d i n s t r u me n t .

QUE S TI ON: We l l , i t ma y b e t h a t a p a r t i c u l a r r e me d y i n a p a r t i c u l a r s i t u a t i o n mi g h t b e l e s s o f f e n s i v e t o f e d e r a l i s m, b u t t h a t ' s a c o n c e r n t h a t s h o u l d b e a d d r e s s e d b y Co n g r e s s , i s n ' t i t - -

MR. BE DE RMAN: Ab s o l u t e l y . QUE S TI ON: - - i n v i e w o f t h i s s t a t u t e ? MR. BEDE RMAN: Ab s o l u t e l y . I t i s - - i f Co n g r e s s

wi s h e s t o a d d r e s s t h e a v a i l a b i l i t y o f r e mo v a l i n t h i s c l a s s a c t i o n c o n t e x t - - a n d t h e r e i s p e n d i n g l e g i s l a t i o n

t o d a y t o t h a t e f f e c t - - C o n g r e s s i s f r e e t o d o s o .

QUE S TI ON: An d - - a n d i f C o n g r e s s wa n t s t o b e mo r e o f f e n s i v e , i t p r e s u ma b l y c a n .

( L a u g h t e r . ) MR. BEDE RMAN: I wo u l d n ' t s p e a k t o t h e

p r o p e n s i t y o f C o n g r e s s i n t h o s e c i r c u ms t a n c e s , b u t t h e y

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c o u l d a l s o a me n d t h e An t i - I n j u n c t i o n Ac t t o a l s o c h a n g e t h e b a l a n c e o f p o we r b e t we e n St a t e c o u r t s a n d Fe d e r a l c o u r t s . We t a k e n o i s s u e wi t h t h a t .

Yo u r Ho n o r s , u n l e s s t h e r e a r e a n y f u r t h e r q u e s t i o n s .

QUE STI ON: Th a n k y o u , Mr . Be d e r ma n . Mr . Al s o b r o o k , y o u h a v e 7 mi n u t e s r e ma i n i n g .

REBUTTAL ARGUMENT OF HENRY B. ALSOBROOK, J R. ON BEHALF OF T HE P ETI TI ONERS

MR. ALS OBROOK: Ex c u s e me . Mr . Ch i e f J u s t i c e , a n d ma y i t p l e a s e t h e Co u r t :

I t h i n k J u s t i c e Br e y e r wa s c o r r e c t wh e n h e p o i n t e d o u t t h a t t h e s t i p u l a t i o n t h a t wa s e n t e r e d i n t o i s r e a l l y n o t a mb i g u o u s . T h e E l e v e n t h - -

QUE S TI ON: Th a t ' s n o t - - I d o n ' t t h i n k t h a t ' s b e f o r e u s , Mr . Al s o b r o o k .

MR. AL SOBROOK: Al l r i g h t . QUE S TI ON: I me a n , I d o n ' t t h i n k wh e t h e r o r n o t

y o u mi g h t b e e n t i t l e d t o a n i n j u n c t i o n , s h o u l d y o u s e e k

o n e , i s - - i s p r e s e n t e d b y t h e - - y o u r q u e s t i o n . MR. AL S OBROOK: Ye s , s i r . We l l , Yo u r Ho n o r , I wo u l d s a y t h a t a t t h e t i me

t h a t we r e mo v e d t h i s a l s o we r e l i e d o n NAACP I I , a n d t h e r e t h e Co u r t s a i d t h a t i f t h e r e a r e t wo a l t e r n a t i v e s t h a t - - a n d t h e y a l s o p o i n t e d o u t a f o o t n o t e 3 i n t h e Ki k k o n e n

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c a s e wh i c h s a i d t h a t a n i n j u n c t i o n c o u l d b e i s s u e d wh e r e t h e r e a r e t wo a l t e r n a t i v e s t h a t - - t h a t y o u c a n c h o o s e b e t we e n o n e o r t h e o t h e r , a n d t h a t t h e - - t h e An t i - I n j u n c t i o n Ac t d o e s n o t p r e c l u d e t h e r e me d y u n d e r t h e Al l Wr i t s Ac t .

S o we r e a l i z e t h a t t h e Co u r t i s n o t a l e g i s l a t i v e b o d y a n d t h a t i t h a s b e e n b r o u g h t o u t h e r e t h a t Co n g r e s s i s t h e o n e t h a t c a n - - c a n d i c t a t e t h e

  j u r i s d i c t i o n a l b o u n d s o f Fe d e r a l c o u r t s . Bu t b y t h e s a met o k e n , Yo u r Ho n o r , we h a v e a g r e a t n u mb e r o f c l a s s a c t i o n s e t t l e me n t s t h a t a r e p e n d i n g i n t h i s c o u n t r y t h a t h a v e b e e n a l r e a d y c o n s u mma t e d i n t h i s c o u n t r y , a n d we f a c e a s i t u a t i o n wh e r e t h e s e t t l i n g p a r t y wh o h a s s e t t l e d a n a t i o n a l c l a s s a c t i o n mu s t h a v e s o me k i n d o f r e me d y t o s t o p s u i t s i n S t a t e c o u r t s t h a t a t t e mp t t o t h wa r t t h a t c l a s s a c t i o n s e t t l e me n t . An d s o we wo u l d a s k t h e Co u r t t o c o n s i d e r t h a t i n i t s - - i n i t s d e l i b e r a t i o n s .

I f t h e r e a n y f u r t h e r q u e s t i o n s ? QUE S TI ON: Th a n k y o u , Mr . Al s o b r o o k .

MR. AL S OBROOK: T h a n k y o u , Yo u r H o n o r . CHI EF J US TI CE REHNQUI S T: Th e c a s e i s s u b mi t t e d . ( Wh e r e u p o n , a t 1 0 : 4 3 a . m. , t h e c a s e i n t h e

a b o v e - e n t i t l e d ma t t e r wa s s u b mi t t e d . )

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