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If the only thing you know about Proposal 4 is what youve seen on TV
commercials you might be surprised to learn that anyone thinks its a
bad idea
Who could possibly oppose the notion that frail elderly people should
be able to stay in their own homes and receive compassionate
quality care from workers whove had background checks
Answer A significant number of people including some either
receiving or providing in-home care They say they believe the
proposed constitutional amendment has nothing to do with the quality
of care and everything to do with perpetuating the means by which the
Service Employees International Union claims $6 million-$8 million a
year in dues from workers caring for patients on government
assistance
In their view Proposal 4 is the prime example of how special interests
have corrupted the Michigan ballot proposal
process to serve their own ends
This is the most cynical the most deceptive
of all the ballot proposals said Matt Resch a
Lansing-based strategist with the business coalition opposed to
several pro-union measures on the ballot Its just a joke
So what would Proposal 4 do It would
bull Create a Michigan Quality Home Care Council
bull Require the home care council to screen home care workers and
maintain a registry of them and provide job training for workers and
financial training for patients
bull Codify in the state constitution workers right to retain their status
(since 2006) as public employee members of SEIU Healthcare
Michigan
That last arrangement though only a small portion of the amendments
language and entirely unmentioned in the pro-Proposal 4 ad
campaign accounts for 100 of the controversy surrounding it
In fact Proposal 4 could best be described as a final showdown in a
battle that has raged at the state Capitol over the home care union
issue for nearly a decade It began in 2004 when the administration
of former Gov Jennifer Granholm authorized the creation of a quality
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home care council at the SEIUs urging The SEIU was making the
same push with Democratic governors in several other states as well
The Michigan home care council designated home health care
workers caring for patients receiving Medicare or Medicaid as public
employees and recognized SEIU as their bargaining unit
SEIU after an election in which fewer than 1 in 5 home care workers
participated was certified as the bargaining agent for all of about
43000 workers many of whom are caring for family members
SEIU and the quality care council signed a contract in 2006 and the
state began to deduct 275 in union dues from aid payments
Opponents -- led by the Mackinac Center for Public Policy a free-
market think tank -- have argued from the beginning that the whole
thing is a scam Home health care workers arent public employees
they said they work for their patients
The notion that SEIU and the home care council have anything
resembling a labor-management relationship is laughable said
Mackinac Center attorney Patrick Wright And neither has the
authority to set wages and working conditions for home care workers
thats left to the discretion of the Legislature and the patients or their
guardians
When Granholm was replaced by Gov Rick Snyder and Republicans
assumed control of both chambers of the Legislature in 2010 efforts
quickly got under way to terminate the arrangement Funding for the
council was cut off the dues deduction was scheduled for termination
Both survive for now thanks to financial and legal efforts by SEIU But
without passage of Proposal 4 they will expire soon
Dohn Hoyle a Lansing-based disability-rights activist and spokesman
for Proposal 4 said that would be a tragedy The home care council
registry screening and training are all valuable for people seeking
care for themselves or loved ones Hoyle said And the union was
instrumental in pushing for them he said
Further Hoyle said SEIU played a key role in applying pressure to the
Legislature that resulted in significant pay increases for home care
workers over the last five years
Hoyle blames opposition to Proposal 4 on ideology that is so anti-
union theyre willing to throw disabled people under the bus
Opponents of the proposal say there is nothing compassionate about
changing the state constitution to preserve the right to skim $6 million
a year from funds used to care for disabled people
Resch the strategist called it fundamentally dishonest for Proposal
4s backers to claim it is needed to preserve a right that is not in
jeopardy -- the right to home health care -- while not mentioning the
real reason for the ballot proposal that the SEIU lost a political fight in
Lansing
Except for paying most of the bill -- about $19 million to collect
petition signatures and nearly $3 million in TV advertising so far --
SEIU has stayed out of the ballot proposal campaign Hoyle said the
coalition of disability-rights and senior citizens groups backing
Proposal 4 is broad but couldnt afford to mount a statewide
campaign without the unions help
SEIU officials did not return a call seeking comment last week and
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have seldom commented on the controversy or the ballot proposal
But some of the unions home health care members have spoken up
Robert Haynes a 59-year-old retired Detroit police officer from
Macomb Township and his wife care for two severely disabled adult
children He has been outspoken in his opposition to SEIU Haynes
said he never heard anything about the union-certification election the
first notice he got was when dues started coming out of the familys
check
He said SEIU offices in Detroit never responded to his repeated
requests for information and relief
Were not home health care providers Haynes said We dont work
for the state Were parents of disabled children
Im not anti-union he added Im still a member of the (Detroit
Police Officers) retirees association Im just feeling that we dont
belong in this union
They say they got us more money Haynes continued Show us
how Who did you negotiate with
Hoyle said Haynes is an idiot recruited by the Mackinac Center
(Haynes said he has contacted the center for advice)
The vast majority of SEIU home health care workers support the
union Hoyle said
One is Robert Flair 60 of Warren Flair who cares for a 30-year-old
severely mentally impaired son said he voted for certification and
supports the union 100
Im not in this program to make money I do it because hes my son
Flair said
But if and when he can no longer care for his son Flair said it will be
nice to know that we can hire somebody who has passed criminal
background checks (and) has had some training
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home care council at the SEIUs urging The SEIU was making the
same push with Democratic governors in several other states as well
The Michigan home care council designated home health care
workers caring for patients receiving Medicare or Medicaid as public
employees and recognized SEIU as their bargaining unit
SEIU after an election in which fewer than 1 in 5 home care workers
participated was certified as the bargaining agent for all of about
43000 workers many of whom are caring for family members
SEIU and the quality care council signed a contract in 2006 and the
state began to deduct 275 in union dues from aid payments
Opponents -- led by the Mackinac Center for Public Policy a free-
market think tank -- have argued from the beginning that the whole
thing is a scam Home health care workers arent public employees
they said they work for their patients
The notion that SEIU and the home care council have anything
resembling a labor-management relationship is laughable said
Mackinac Center attorney Patrick Wright And neither has the
authority to set wages and working conditions for home care workers
thats left to the discretion of the Legislature and the patients or their
guardians
When Granholm was replaced by Gov Rick Snyder and Republicans
assumed control of both chambers of the Legislature in 2010 efforts
quickly got under way to terminate the arrangement Funding for the
council was cut off the dues deduction was scheduled for termination
Both survive for now thanks to financial and legal efforts by SEIU But
without passage of Proposal 4 they will expire soon
Dohn Hoyle a Lansing-based disability-rights activist and spokesman
for Proposal 4 said that would be a tragedy The home care council
registry screening and training are all valuable for people seeking
care for themselves or loved ones Hoyle said And the union was
instrumental in pushing for them he said
Further Hoyle said SEIU played a key role in applying pressure to the
Legislature that resulted in significant pay increases for home care
workers over the last five years
Hoyle blames opposition to Proposal 4 on ideology that is so anti-
union theyre willing to throw disabled people under the bus
Opponents of the proposal say there is nothing compassionate about
changing the state constitution to preserve the right to skim $6 million
a year from funds used to care for disabled people
Resch the strategist called it fundamentally dishonest for Proposal
4s backers to claim it is needed to preserve a right that is not in
jeopardy -- the right to home health care -- while not mentioning the
real reason for the ballot proposal that the SEIU lost a political fight in
Lansing
Except for paying most of the bill -- about $19 million to collect
petition signatures and nearly $3 million in TV advertising so far --
SEIU has stayed out of the ballot proposal campaign Hoyle said the
coalition of disability-rights and senior citizens groups backing
Proposal 4 is broad but couldnt afford to mount a statewide
campaign without the unions help
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Macomb Township and his wife care for two severely disabled adult
children He has been outspoken in his opposition to SEIU Haynes
said he never heard anything about the union-certification election the
first notice he got was when dues started coming out of the familys
check
He said SEIU offices in Detroit never responded to his repeated
requests for information and relief
Were not home health care providers Haynes said We dont work
for the state Were parents of disabled children
Im not anti-union he added Im still a member of the (Detroit
Police Officers) retirees association Im just feeling that we dont
belong in this union
They say they got us more money Haynes continued Show us
how Who did you negotiate with
Hoyle said Haynes is an idiot recruited by the Mackinac Center
(Haynes said he has contacted the center for advice)
The vast majority of SEIU home health care workers support the
union Hoyle said
One is Robert Flair 60 of Warren Flair who cares for a 30-year-old
severely mentally impaired son said he voted for certification and
supports the union 100
Im not in this program to make money I do it because hes my son
Flair said
But if and when he can no longer care for his son Flair said it will be
nice to know that we can hire somebody who has passed criminal
background checks (and) has had some training
Flair said he also credits SEIU with boosting Medicaid payments
Ive seen the benefits Theres a real difference between pre-union
and now
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Macomb Township and his wife care for two severely disabled adult
children He has been outspoken in his opposition to SEIU Haynes
said he never heard anything about the union-certification election the
first notice he got was when dues started coming out of the familys
check
He said SEIU offices in Detroit never responded to his repeated
requests for information and relief
Were not home health care providers Haynes said We dont work
for the state Were parents of disabled children
Im not anti-union he added Im still a member of the (Detroit
Police Officers) retirees association Im just feeling that we dont
belong in this union
They say they got us more money Haynes continued Show us
how Who did you negotiate with
Hoyle said Haynes is an idiot recruited by the Mackinac Center
(Haynes said he has contacted the center for advice)
The vast majority of SEIU home health care workers support the
union Hoyle said
One is Robert Flair 60 of Warren Flair who cares for a 30-year-old
severely mentally impaired son said he voted for certification and
supports the union 100
Im not in this program to make money I do it because hes my son
Flair said
But if and when he can no longer care for his son Flair said it will be
nice to know that we can hire somebody who has passed criminal
background checks (and) has had some training
Flair said he also credits SEIU with boosting Medicaid payments
Ive seen the benefits Theres a real difference between pre-union
and now
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