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F115 meetina- Captain DAVTDSON and Lieutenant EH01.-Ti of inmy :1-&#39;2 n e igence fromHamilton Field, California, all met in � room at various times during»;the afternoon and evening of July 31, 191;? and discussedthe flying discstory as related by � The Army Intelligence Officers, CaptainDAVIDSON and Lieutenant BRO�-.�.~l-I, left about 2:00 A. If. the morning of August l,l9£;? to return to Hamilton Field, California for fair Force Day in a F5-25 andwere carrying some of the reported disc fI�¬:1-{f:I18I&#39;ltS. The left engine on theB-25 burned an exhaust stack which in turn caught the left wing afire, the A7wing subsequently breaking off and tearing off the tail. The B-25 crashed, Ckilling Captain DAVIDSON and Lieutenant BEOZIN. However, the Crew Chief anda hitch-hiker parachuted to safety. Intelligence Officers at ;IcChord Field,Washirxgton advised there was no indication of any sabotage. The plane crashedat Kelso, Washington ap_nro;:imately 2:50 A. IE. August 1, l9l+7.

Five anonymous calls were received by a -�and the � Ta&#39;cr>ma,"- between 11:30 J-.. "., July 31, 1%?and 5:30 P. �-�,, .�=.u_-;ust 2, 191$. lhe first -call T-ELS to aapproximately 11:30 .3. 1.1., July 31, in which the caller stated that there wasa meeting taking place at that time in room 502 of the Tfinthrop Hotel concerningthe disc fragments found on Maury Island. The second call was received between

1.1=o0 A. rs. and 12=oo noon, August 1, 191+? by the � inwhich the caller advised that at that moment a big meeting was taking placein � room number 502, Winthrop Hotel; that the B-25 which crashed wascarrying disc fragments and that I-EcChord Field officials had stated it was

shot down or sabotaged. The third call was received Friday, August l, 19A?at 5:30 P. ?i. by the Tacoma, in which the caller statedthat the B-25 which crashed a he so, aashington was carrying flying discfragments and that the dead officers were Captain DAV1TI&#39;JECN and Lieutenant ABP.0�..TJ, .7.�2 Intelligence Officers at Hamilton Field, California. This callwas prior to the release of the dead officers&#39; names by Army authorities andthe caller indicated th:..t when the names were released, it would verify theinformation he was furnishing was correct. The fourth phone call was receivedat ar:;92roximately"5:h5 P. &#39;t., Friday, August 1 by the_ inwhich C8-11 the caller stated the B--25 was definitelrshfit down and that if he¢°1&#39;1t5�~¢&#39;°@d -"&#39;-T�-�III,� Intelligence officers they would not deny it. The fifth phone

� call v-es reCeived by the T8-C9313, at 5:33 p_ _v_ ;_._,gu5t 2�191+? at Whiflh time the caller stated the J-25 �was shot down from the air with8 20 I11-HM Cal�-Flora; that the Marine olane found recently on ?.&#39;t. R.-J,in_ier had alsobeen Shoig down and th�tqwould be taken to Bright Field Tuesdaymerning. �.&#39;."hen the Army author ties released the names of the dead Intelligencej1fl¢@I"§_1&#39;~&#39;hich verified the information as given by the anonymous caller, tit»;._ff�ff�_�f�i�,:&#39;�A-&#39;:°f_lf"in�f&#39;ed Eli? ft-OTY fl} ;929218l1S�f- 2, 191;? and carried several articles"""��""� "��&#39; &#39;��-errln� 5&#39;1-&#39;11 the B-1&#39;3�! hail been shot down OI� sabot-1;-�ed �me: :11-�SO Ofl Q Fact thit lt �E15 Carrylm cnsc fra~ Wm; C ave admitted&#39;t*ti~s natezial vhich the sent my F. 11th a� Q " - " - Y 1&#39;1 1&#39;-Obhad no conne i &#39;11?

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forwarded herein. �deny, however, -- that they actually startedthe flying disc story and their actual part in the story. � United Airlines pilot I

� states that �on July 31, 19!-.7, both related theiroriginal flyig disc fragment story. Information gathered would indicate thatthe anonymous phone calls were possibly made by _in order to build

~ up the flying disc story to the point where they could make a profitable sale. of the story to _-Chicago Illinois. No facts have �been developed [77,-_l uld d fi �tel rove that *1»:-zde these calls however, from all"_ whichwo eni yp e- facts and information gathered, it appears he is probably the most likely ti _.

f&#39; have made the anonymous calls. The detailed interviews of the persons con c-ted regard to this flying disc story are_being_ set out .&#39;below._ I ._ ~- .

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any information regarding these repOI&#39;ts. He further stated that he advisedthe Boise Statesnan shortly before, or at the time left Boiseto come to Tacoma to check on the flying dies eta;-lee 192_rj__i;.h_that-should not come as the entire story was a hoax

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- �_- .-&#39; .- -- It was the Tacoma Times paper which first issued a storyon August 2 and subsequent stories intimating that the B-25 which crashed atKelso, Washington on the early mornin.g.of August 1,� had been sabotaged or shot.down because of the fact that it carried flying disc fragments. �»st-atedthat on Thursday, July 31, at approximately 11:30 A. H. he received an anorgrmousphone call in which the caller stated that_and Army Intelligenceofficers were meeting in room 502 of the �ffinthrop Hotel to check on the flyingdisc story from which fragments were obtained on Maury Island._sta.ted heturned around to speak to his editor and when he picked e hone eline He stated that the caller asked for

1 who was out at the time of the call�. He statedad

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mission. that on Frida* Au ust 1, between 11:00 A. H. and noohe received another phone call for&in which the anonymous callerstated "that he might have sane information for him. _asked the caller ifhe was not the same party that had called the previous date and he said yes.The caller then related that at that moment there was a big meeting in progressin Tm, 502, in the Winthrop Hotel; that the s-25 which crashed thatmorning Kelso was carrying flying disc fragments from California and that - .!!cChord Field officials had stated the plane was sabotaged or shot down. ,Thecaller then hung up after making some statement to the effect that he was a &#39;switchboard operator. .stated that he went to the Winthrop Hotel on Fridayabout noon and found that there was no male operator on duty. He stated he thenwent to room 502 and_answered the door and that Captain

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$01" the End denied callingIn this call the anonymous caller stated that, "Don &#39;t m doing ryou." He then asked if the story had been put on the wire and v:hen_said yes, the caller stated, "We want this to get back to New Jersey." Thecaller further stated that the B-25 was shot down by a 20 m.m. cannon and thatthe marine nlane which was recently found wrecked on the side of �t. Rainier,

been missing for several months, he} also been shot down. lhc callerto nth-at he should get in touci. with a flyer named �-with

ikited .-lirlhnes who, he stated, was with _92~&#39;h@I"1 they Wire $11011 atover Montana. The caller then stated, "I&#39;ll see you Tuesday. I&#39;m goin toFan Francisco." �stated that he had checked with ofUnited Airlines who denied knowi any pilot by the name o deniedever hav&#39; C, I hi » &#39;

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was released that the B-25 was carrying disc fragments returning toField, California and furnishing the inference that the plane had been

ated that about 8:00 P. K. on Sundail August 3,t his home,

stated he had not given any story out to the Postlntelligencer at Seattle; stated that he had gotten a telegram to call a numberin Eoise and when he called and found out it was the Boise Statesman, he hadhung up. He stated that the Boise Statesman then contacted him, at which tinehe admitted he had seen the disc fragnents, but that he did not take any of 1then. This time _informed -that he had been with_Q Public Relations Officer from LZcChord Field, all afternoon until about3=1,5 P. ->inr j that he had told the Army authorities every-thing that he and knew about the flying disc fragments story from thetine that left Boise, Idaho and he had left Seattle, Iuzhington.l This time that there were some of the supposed disc i&#39;r:.j&#39;92ents

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exploring a gravel pit on Maury Island and found some stran e rock formations.He stated they picked up some of these samoles and that hlatersaw them and they went back over to I»-Iaury island at which time additionalsamples were obtained and tl1at�sent these to a friend of his at--theUniversity of Chicago to have analyzed. They stated that they received areport and that apparently this friend had asked a newpapermao to find out 5where the rock formations were obtained. Qt-r1d-told _t&#39;natsometime after the first flying disc story had appeared, they received a tele-gram from Trans-Ocean Press from Chicago wanting inf ocnnation on the flyingdisc fragments. �titted that they had at no time indicated--therock formations were a part of a. flying disc and that Captain� and

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th regarding the anonymous phone calls which he hadreceived. He stated further that the first call he received was on Friday, _August 1, at around 5:30 P. 1!. At this time the caller stated that the B-25which crashed at Kelso, Washington was carrying disc fragments and that thetwo officers killed were Captain DAVIDSON and Lieutenant BRO!-I, officers withArmy A-_? Intelligence at Hamilton Field and that the fragments were top secretmaterial. He stated the caller indicated that when the Array released the namesof the dead officers it would verify that the information he was furnishing wascorrect. �stated that the second call he received at approximately6:A5 P. H. Friday, August l at which time the caller stated that the B-25 wasdefinitely shot down and that if he contacted Army Intelligence A-2, the manin char-_-;e would not deny it. w% "tsted he thought the man said to con-* . -tact Colonel- but it was found out it was Colonel- who was in chargeof Army Intelligence A-2. The caller further stated that the Sheriff&#39;s Office

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of ~the B-25 and he was informed that no �investigation was being conducted bythe Seattle Office. _at this time related in a rambling story that hef/;,had picked up some strange rock formations which he had forwarded to a �friend� /�~of his in the University of Chicago to have analyzed and that later, in some

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. - . -&#39; -- " &#39; On August &#39;?, 191.�? re inter-Vviewed at the Tacoma resident agency office. Both at first &#39;denied aw "knowledge of how the rock formations which they had picked up tohave alalvzed became connected with the flying disc stories. Both deniedmaking amr statement to anyone that these rock formations were portions of adi fragment. It was apparent from the start of the interview that.a.nd .�were not telling their complete and true connection with the f]y@disc story. They refused to give any definite information as to what they saidor had done which caused them to become involved i1 a .¬&#39;lyihg disc story, but A &#39;ave evasive answers and repeatedly stated that they had nothing to do with it �8 .

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in �room and that �Left about midnight. He stated that hereturned to _&#39;1"oom Friday afternoon for aperox:|&#39;.mate]_y one-half hour Afrom 2=3o to 3=0o P. $5., et which time and were still there and�neither seemed to be able to recall if -":us in room on F�rida;r,August l. The best that could be obtained from and-es to whettook place in _ room was to the effect that most of the tell: was aboutflying, that no one seemed very interested in the rock formations and thatthey had no connection as far as they knew with any flying disc. �Stated that �wanted to obtain pictures of the place where therock formations 1-were obtained and that the Army Intelligence officers did notappear to be interested in any manner whatever.

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United Airlines pilot: It should be noted thaty received publicity for having supposedly seen

flying; discs or similar objects on July 1+, last while on a routine United Air-Jines flight out of Boise, Idaho in company with his cmpilot�concerning this incident. Captain -vstates that they took off from i>oise,é7CIdaho at 3:12 F. YT. and headed I-for-thwest at__3O0 degrees and �-while still cli&#39;~�1fT.n;;at 8,000 feet, co�pil0t -called his attentior; to some objects in thesk ahead of them about ten degrees left which neither one could identify.*states that he called a CAA radio operator at Ontario, Cregon -and reques-ted hJ.m to step outside his radio shack and see if he could see any of theseobjects overhead. The CAA radio operator replied in the negative.

Captain�tates that he first met �on.T&#39;-ly 5 in the offices of the v.&#39;here both were being,izterviewed concerning their sighting of fl_&#39;,&#39;i.ng discs. �-states thrt henext met �about three weeks ago in Boise, Idaho at -.-zhich time he,�was on another flir-"ht through Boise, Idaho and had a. ten minute lay-over there, �n this occasion �was in company of Captain �.�.&#39;ILLIAI&#39; L}:fi:&#39;=�vIDSOII and

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in the early afternoon at which time he asked .to come over to Tacc-ma andjoin him as he was investigating a flying disc story for �someone back �.ast"and some fragrients were involved which �liight be intcrc;ste~�- in seei.ng.&#39; " ~ - &#39; &#39;* = &#39; &#39; in Tt;cr»:�.?= and -oldTier some uis u s1On�,rreed to _ . _1:. » : L- 3 _ -.

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,0 .as o what �had seen on iiaury Island; professed reluc-tance to tell the story, claiming that several unfortunate incidentihaioccurred subsequent to his seeing the flying discs and he bclieved_the entireincident had brought him bad luck. In this connection he stated &#39;t�n&#39;st four orfive days subsequent to his sighting the flying discs, a man called at hishome and had a conversation with him the course of which_,was warned toforget all about everything he had seen on or near Iiaury Island. In additionto that, - stated that his sixteen year old son had run away from homefollowing the incident and had been picked up by the police somewhere inLE t» A &#39; &#39; &#39;On ana. fter some further dlSCL1SSlOn finally agreed to tell his storyof the flying disc incident in front of _ fter eliciting a promise from

�that he would not discuss the matter for at least two w " Itsens. should

be noted &#39;1&#39;-h h-&#39;i.d previously told his story to 8, ."-.tthis point related the incident which has already been descri"-:=c:1 and whichhe alleged had taken place on or about June 23 or 21� Ifhile relating theincidentmientioned that he had taken pictures of the flying disc vh iohhe had seen but that the printed films were marred with white spots. &#39;-}hen�had concluded his story, Ehted that he had gone the followingday o 1-Iaury Island to verify wh had told him concerning the fragmentsand had at this time picked up several fragments and taker. them 1-:it�n him. Atthis time �related that he also saw one of the flying discs hoveringover the Island but that it -had dies eared into a cloud. �.&#39;.l:en.r.-nd ��cad finished telling their story atold the group that he had e.-".1-lier inthat evening called Captain D.".VID5OI92T and Lieutenant BRO-&#39;.i�u�-, Army Intelligenceofficers and that they were on their way to the Hotel room. At this point�protested that he did not wish to tell his story before anyone else and hewas advised by: that if such was the case 1.-:h idn&#39;t he just leave and not.�oe there when they a rived. then left the room andwent downstairs.rgeparted a one. drove- back to Boeing Fieldnear Seattle 1&#39;."he&#39; desired to pick up his own personal car, which he old.They then returned to the Hotel where the &#39; found Captain DAVIDSON and Lieutenant"%P.O&#39;.i1-J in room 502 �t $ met them at the door and seemed

_ excited, explaining to hat Captain DAVIDSON had just drawn a reproductionof a freak disc which-had supposedly been seen by a woman in Arizona and thatthis dr.a&#39;.&#39;.&#39;ing was an e;<;-let reproduction of the flying disc which uni, hadseen several weeks before, nearing Mt. Rainier. states that ho tl ""s r y U ter-£".is _sc-emed very anxious to tell is and= story to the ..r..:;; offi-cers. Before this was done, however, �had a discussion with Lieutenant

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the opinion that there might be some truth in the current flying disc stories,but that their immediate superiors presumably A-2 at Hamilton Field! did notagree with them. BIIUJN and D.��.-�ID.30N then held a brief discussion as to whether

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went down to the lobby where 2?-Rf. I-I Edetached himself from the group and entered a phone booth to call for 2. ca

from IIcChord Field. �also left the group and .&#39;.".<3t anon: outside the p?"_:_=:92.ebooth 1.&#39;here they held a short discussion relative to the credibility of-

� story. £{{o.n-I indicated to _that he should attemt to findout if the story was on the level and

day regarding this matter. The groupat which time wrought his carhis trunk a hox of the alleged flyingHe offered them to BHOJN and DAVIDSON

Field the box of fragments was placed

that BIlO..lI would call him the followingthen proceeded to the front of the Hotelto the front of the Hotel and took from

disc fragments picked up on Iziaury Island.and when the Army car arrived from I.?cChord

in the car with the officers. �denarted alone and _ went --"in search of :o.=nethinr-&#39; to curt and laterQ $4

returned to the Hotel for the night.

On Friday morning, August l, 19b7, -1-eceived a callfrom �informing him that a B-25 had crashed during the night and it was ebelieved to be the same lane which BROTJI and DAVIDSON were flying. Fo owingthis call -and&came to the Hotel room and from the room Aacain called 192-icChord Field in an attemot to get infomation about the crash.

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been killed. _told to discontinue his investigation ofthe incident and that he, �was no lonr-er interested. -then tookthe phone from -and askedsituation. �was unable to say what g reply tonnes. Fci

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call. After returning to the Hotel room,attemsting to gain information, but they d .. give -erw. Later, e. Kr.e �of the� called and�wke to im on the telephonebut_refused to give out any information. further relates that whilethe. four men were in the room at this time, an envelope was shoved under the

� door and that he retrieved it from the iloor. �states that tho appearanceof this envelope seemed to startle. considerably and that in fact,�turned white as a sheet until- read the note unsigned which was a commu-nication to the Hotel advising that a strike of Hotel employees was eminent and

� &#39; h lo er Shortlythat guests should not expect room and telephone service muc ng .after this ��identieft the Hotel room elfter promising, to

&#39; take _to Henry Island the following mOI�nln-, Saturday!. _p and.-then went out for dinner and on-their return, #!�ou.nd a note inthe box requesting him to call a certain tele hone number. e did this from

I 1 "bnvho requestedthe Lotel room and was answered by _ W _ _�to go out and call him from a pay station. �complained and wasinformed bpthet two anonymous telephone calls had been received byhim that a discussion regarding flying discs had been taking place in room 502at the Winthrop Hotel which involved Jenny Ir.tel1.ig,ence officers. From theinformation w&#39;nic&#39;nii&#39;1ad received, ii-�was convinced that the anonymous

" caller must have been present at the discussion also, as.&#39;was seeminglyin possession of pertinent remarks which had been made in the room. �

&#39; d th t in conclu-th t he did not give.n.ny further infomation an astates a

oion of the call, he returned to the Hotel room and he and_>retired for~the night. &#39;

morning, August 2, 191+?� redeived a tele-phone call 111 Chicago, but was unable to give him anyfurther inf him, however, that he would call him baa"at 2:30 called from a coffee shop nearby and�

an unknown man in the Coffee Shop forrson was discussing some lumber business &#39;th-P8 .

and left after breakfast. On leaving -the coffee BhOp,.&$k8& aboutf th flyingthe negatives of the photographs which he claimed to have taken o e

discs. �said the negatives were in the glove compartment of his car, by esa search of the instant glove compartment was fruitless. The four then pr /

-&#39; the were to embark for Iiaury Islandceeded in-s car to the dock there y .The boat, however, could not be started and the trip was postponed until laterin the day. &#39;"hile at the dock, however, .aeked to be shown the damageto the boat which had allegedly occurred when the fragments showered down on

t h t a h ve been repairs to the windshield_ Maury Island. �pointcd on 1&#39;: a m y a&#39; th b t but mas not personally satisfied that these repairsand lights on e ca , i _

-. were made as a result of any such incident. �then drove�ximately lO:I+5 R. M. and .to1»d them&#39; hand-back to the 1-Ictol at appro

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�Jinthrop Hotel. -ctated that the przrpose of this meeting was to try tofind out something more about the anonymous phone calls which �had toldhim about, He and �still refused to give out any further informationregarding the Thursday evening conference to �end were informed by-that the nwas afraid of being scooped on the story and was goingto print something on that day. �and _then returned to �-h-1 hoteland shortly thereafter received a phone cell from � but the ca_ll wascut off by the switchboard operator since it was not an emergency ca-ll.and �then returned to the Hotel lobby vshere they found e. tele_¢jram"from

-asu:|.ng them to call him at either Broadway or Proctor _is notsure of the exchange. .>alled this number, but �x."as not there.

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a collect telegram tomat the éwhich contained abrief resume of the incidents &#39;.&#39;.hich had occurred and which requested� towire _a telephone number v:here�could be reached after 6:00 P. II.

�states that he has never received an answer to that wire. Followingthis,�states that he and athat he and _r:ere sitting in thelobby of the C&#39;l;nnpi.c {Total when ent<.red"and gave thezr. each ct; of thelatest edition of the T£;.CO:!!=". Tiizes which contt inecl :.; story llinting; an sabot "+1

in the crash of the Army B� 5 which killed Captain D.�.VID3CI=T and Lieutenant BIC 1.".

�stated that he and �continued to occupy seats in the Hotel lobbymost of the afternoon inasmuch as they were unable to receive calls in the Patel.room due to the Hotel employees� strike. he relates that he received a call

in the late afternoon from _advising; him to call� th&#39;t evening at"�-:30 as -had further information regarding the anonymous calls. �also1-.~ceive&#39;d c t¬.-l�::_"jra.&#39;n requesting that he ca1_&#39;L�uhic�n he did ".*.:.r7 founiu._=.t it &#39;;:as_Of the� He refund ts give anyfurther infon.1ationia.t this tine. However, shortly thereafter, goaliefrom Boise and advised _that the Army had released a story through PrigarlierCeneral 5I&#39;IPJ1I.§ revealing the confidential assignment which BRO F3. and TLVIDSCI-I

£&#39;.:.d been engaged on. In view of this release, �requested to an;-:&#39;.:erone question for him which was, "L-.�ere they carrying any alleged disc fragmentson the plane?" and �answered, "Yes, they were." I-�ollovn&#39;.ng thisca} led as per his earlier request and was infomed that "f the

had received another anonymous phone cell at which time the v: ice"s-i &#39;1 th t the 5.;nr:y B-25 carrying Captain �_"..&#39;.�ID3CI"I and Lieutenant �2?.C had

- been sh L do=.-in with 20 ..""...&#39;n. shells and that the Ifazrine plane found oz; "t.Iaxinier had also been shot down with 20 m.m. shells. �The voice we on to

that _w;oulc1 be called back to liright Field on Tuesday. Then&#39;.:.=l-Zed why he vzas piving out this information the caller replied that itnot for the benefit of the newspapers, but that he was interested in seeingthat the information got back to �ew Jersey. The voice also informed&#39;t "hi" time that one of the two persons who had. been talking to �and "&#39;_ d. L» ->

- i had now left for Alaska. As a result of this latter bit of infdhmutior.

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On Sunday morning, August 3, 191$? , -appez-ired at theHotel room and told them that he had received a. letter from �which saidin effect "Take care of my business. I&#39;ll be out of town for three or fourdays." �had a letter with him but he did not show it to �or-The three men then drove to_secretary�s house in South Tacoma andpicked her up and the four of them then went to breakfast on the South Tacen;&#39;-�ighuay. �jfnile the four of the.-n then went to breakfast �excused Eimseli"and called I.fa_jor.at ilcChord Field and ar1&#39;ar.ged an appoint.";1er~t to me-w

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At this time the object that appeared to be in troubleseemed to throw a lot of debris tron one oi� the port-holes. These

Sc t this debris thatobjects then disappeared tron view. me olanded broke in the wheelhouee or the boat, the spotlight, and

� the klaxon. While this debris was falling, my boy and Hr. Qgot off the boat and hid under some logs. This debris that ekilled our dog and a sea gull. I ashed Hr. _whnt was done wit.the dog. Be made the statement they threw the dog into the water.

This story was told to Mr. Q who the next day .went out to this Island to check on this s cry. He verified the

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alsc made the statement in the letter that the Chicagotn e fra ents and that would an-. Ivarsity failed to analyze es .

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At this time I mde the statement to Mr. that Ishould like to pick up nu car in Seattle. Hr. drove me toBoeing field, Seattle. After leaving me at Boa ng Field, he droveback to Tacoma and I drove my own ca? back to Tacoma. After I hadput my car in the garage at Tacoma wen up to the Winthrop Hoteland in the row at that time v.-as Hr. ii Hr. --_�_-&#39;*-, and EapteDavidson from Army Intelligence. Lieutenant Brown was downstairsgetting sandwiches and coffee. when Lieut. Brown came back, thestories were again related and Lieut. Brown mane a statement that

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At this time Capt. Davidson and Lieut. Bro-an were debatithe thought as to whether to stay over night in Tacoma or leave fo:Hamilton Field immediately, as the B-25 they were flying wassupposed to be at Hamilton Field the next day for the Air Show.

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&#39;i&#39;hat evening Friday! there was a message tor me to callthis particular telephone number that was on the message. I callathis number and was asked by the art to please call them from a

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story but I thought you ought to know that somebody has been oallithis paper and giving us a blow-by-blow description of all that-.hataken "place in your room since you arrived." To verity this, Hr.

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Bunday morning I called a Meier- of B-2 l�c�hordfield and as1ced&#39;him to meet me at the Winthrop Hotel at 11 o&#39;cloclI met this najo at ll o&#39;clock and we drove to n small cor:shop on_ the Tacoma Elghway where this complete story was related 1him by me. We then drove back t the Winthrop Hotel where Major� was introduced to Mr. �by me and again listened to

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C-no oi� us told hi; the fragments could have been from e flying disc. V

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indicating they could have come from flying discs.

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disc gragments. We told them to gorget the entire matter.

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We told him exactly how no had found the fragments and had forwarded thento - to be analyzed. 13-7c.T3.c~ above is the entire and true story as regards our connection withthe 1�1;,-in; di so sto1�ie;. etc. &#39;1.-.-hi nated ow-er the ore ear.-.ples which

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editor of the "Oregonian,"�has stated that Captain William Lgdbavidsonand Lieutenant Frank HiXBrown of the Fourth AAF Headquarters, San Francisco,were in Portland on Ju y 27, 19h?. While in Ihrtland they interviewed Dick

�92la�ankin, an experienced pilot, who had reported that he observed, on June lh,

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"pilots who were among the first to report seeing discs, Kennethi�rnold, bnsiirom Boise, Idaho; Captain E. J?§Smith, a co-pilot; Ralph§Stevens, United Aiand DaveRJohnson, aviation editor, Idaho"Statesnan." In order to determine

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purpose of tiese interviews Richards contacted Hajor General Twining of&#39;$right FieldOhio, and from him gained the impression that the AAF instituted this investigation_to wash out the disc_reports since they are definitely not of AAF origin.

On Friday, August l, the plane in which AAF investigators, Captain �Davidson and Lieutenant Brown, were flying, crashed at Kelso, Washington and bothwere killed. The wreckage was screened by RAF Intelligence from McChord Field.The "Tacoma News Tribune" and through them toe United Press put out a story that

the plane was carrying parts of a disc which had struck a boat wned by FaroldDahl and Fred Chrisman. It has also been inferred that this plane was sabotaged

to prevent these disc parts from being examined.

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_ For your further information there is attached a blind memorandumforth in more detail the results of the investigation surrounding the abovecrash. No further inquiry is being made in this matter.

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the ground and fires would not have resulted, It is noted they landed lapproximately 700 feet from a railroad track and inquiries were conducted byMET to determine whether or not the particles could have been originally apart of a liner in a smoke stack or some other part of the steam engine. Theseinquiries resulted in positive information that the particles did not come froma train or locomotive. Measurements cf the four pieces examined revealedthat they had most likely been originally all part of one hollow cylinder,eight inches in diameter and three sixteenth: of an inch in thickness. Itwas felt that one piece falling from a great height would have still retaineda good part of its heat and probably would have smashed when it hit the ground.

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Director D M. IJLDD setting forth the result of eninterview con-ducted by� then s representative of the Air ForceIntel� nce from Hamilton Field, Czclifo �a and Special Agent�with 7¢. hoenix, Arizona, iG�GE1&#39;_uiF1g� his observation and photographin of &#39;object which was considered-b

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V mb� 9 1910.your office dated September h, 194?, and not Septc r ,

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In July 191.7; was Jointly interviewed by SpecialAge;-1t*| Bureau !gent! and� , A-2 representative 57Cfrom " �lton Field, California. The purpose of the interview was to secure fromHr. �&infor-mation and photographs of e flying disc, which had been sightedand photographed by Rhodes.

"The complete results of the interview and subsequent events are containedin the attached memorandum submitted by the Phoenix Office.

llr._ OSI representative at Phoenix, Arizona, has requestedthe Phoenix Office to furnish him complete facts relating to this interview, whichare to be subsequently forwarded to the $1 Office at San Francisco. According to �

g Hr._ referred to above, has been questioned concerning this matterb7by his superiors and he has advised them that his recollection is "hazy" on thematter. According ta has apparently now requested the Air

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For the Breau&#39;s information, several citizens in the community of

Alexandria, Louisiana, have recently reportedly seen flying discs. The Alexan-dria, Louisiana daily paper has carried numerous articles concerning this.

At a recent meeting of the Young Hens Bsiness Club in Alexandria,a member suggested that since Alexandria, Louisiana is known as a convention city,the club should try promoting a convention of flying saucer sears. This particu-lar comment appeared in the Alexandria paper and was picked up by the AP lines.

ur. a member of the Young Hens Bsiness Club, advisedSpecial Agent that since the AP release, they have received alarge number of requests regarding the convention of flying saucer sears from mar!parts of the United States. l£r.�states that the interest of the peopleis evidenced by their inquiries about convention particulars, stating they areflying saucer seers and want to attend such a convention.

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"This gentleman further advised that in view of the volume of inquiriescoming in, it appears that the YHBC will have to hire an employee to handle allthe correspondence. It might be noted that he advised a representative of theAir Force from Barksdale Field, Louisiana, has inquired as to plans of a flyingsaucer conventio, stating that they are interested in furnishing an observer ifsuch a convention were held. -I

This information is being furnished the Bureau, as it is possible suchan enterprise may cause people to falsify that they have seen flying discs or fly-ing saucers. Such falsifications might be made so that they might attend such aconvention or become official delegates thereto.

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5Y"°P5�5°"""�°"�~"= *submitted ash residue to 1&#39;4" " "I, I�. NICK; IFire L5arshal�s Office, Philadelphia, Pa., � ,______,.&#39; __. - �which nnde chemical anal§&#39;$is. _o£&#39; " I/I 1/opinion that firf��ay have been caused by I.� 92military flare o flying saucer". -&#39; I

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advised that there _had been received through the mail on April 21, 1949, an ash92 sample with a re-quest for analysis. In the letter of transmittal, _�had pointed out pthat the fire had continued to burn twelve hours after water had first been A VCI.

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from the case on a questionnofjurisdiction and ��-Was advised that&#39; any further action on his part should be referred to the State Police __

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of South Canaan, near Scranton, Pennsylvania. He stated that_house had burned about six months ago, that the fire had occurred at nightduring e storm and that a large object had struck the roof and ignited thehouse which had burned to the ground in less than an hour.

He said that he had not been present during the fire but that

these details had been mrnished by letter from -at the time a sample 5 6of the ash was forwarded for analysis. He said that he was of the personal 7opinion that the ash might be a part of a military flare or a "flying saucer".

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engineering field that one of the characteristics of someis the fact that they burn for a considerable period. Hemass of the ash residue had remained ignited for a period

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The file of the Philadelphia. Office reflect that the recordsof Immigration Naturalization Service were negative to an inquiry concern-ing * The files of thisoffice liketise reflect that y letter received August 11+, 194&#39;?,é 7 Lrequested-of this office the identity of a powder or dust used to catchthieves! &#39; - . &#39; �

Inasmuch as there is no E&#39;g1at;&#39;g~ny indicated within the Bureau&#39;s"~JI�i5diCtiO1&#39;1, there is no further investigation being conducted in thismatter. I~1o*-&#39;-rever, the ash residue obtained from the 7 Cis being" forwarded to the Bureau Laboratory for any interest or study theLaboratory may desire to conduct relative to flares or in connection rrith _the possibility of the presence of "flying saucers".

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