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1- On 12 July 1947, n c 11 war: Y-1: do '=t tlzr, newsnener Office of {he "Idr ho Lsilv SIT !-y 0n 26 June 1947,to vrricms notional news services to the ef'|"ect. that he,had s"et19 objects f"l}rin_g in the nir above the "ascede Hountain Range of We -.11in;'_ton. 1'hc so objects were subsequently referred to as flying saucers or flying disks and will here-in af5er be referred to as such in this report. $+.sted th t he had I-:no1-in rm- quite n period of ti--we, hm/in{' had r '1ntin'n': with on various

occnsinrs, due to the fact that both he and were or vste Fliers and frequently got together to talk shop- stetnd that as fer rr. he was r -on:-horned anyt 1inr_ said could be tr'.1"'*n '."~ry seriously nnd that 11'! scizuall believed that Hr.Arnold hvd seem the rforerertloned llring dlsks. stated that after _.-@;~.=r+.d Eevini seen the flying: dfsks, that the editor of -".3" pr -_*92 nttnr-hed 1 nc~rt- It is also the Opinion of tiw interviewer ill !-"t Would hove *1-.v:h were to lose than gain em 92.'-" u'l '.'- hm-". to be very str0T ."_1j convirlce-'92 thnt he actually saw something hr2f'or" 1" '-ould r".:92r'921'i. s'H".l| rm invidezwt mm! open himself for the ridicule timt '0uId ncr*.or|p nj.' such P report.


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1-Io . ._eee and photographaflying disc. Conductthis petrol for so longatii "-if-i.&T _In eeoordenoe tothese instructions, I toot the Statesnen'sairplane, i,~7_.;-_' andwithqes passenger, flee a sevenand one-half hournission -1

o on tho seventh dev o July, l9i'l.This saissionwas withoutresult. It -':=-L&-

end territory betwcon and around Ett. Rainier and Sit. Adams, uher , 'first reported seeing objects henceforth described assaucers or discs. ' -:

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l . to Boise by treyof FallsFalls, Tashington,and Pendleton,0|-egon_._ Unissearch also no negative. ' a_ ~n A.~ '-" ".&On theninth day of July, 1947, I continued the search, ags-inusing a1;; {_-;

national guardAl -6, thistime centering=g' effortsovei-'the 0:-yheemountainsrest and southwest of Boise, aportion of the llountain Bone desert on atrack _,,f&southeast of the ountain lions army sir base, thence into the Saartooth noun- ,;,.,teins, and heck in the general direction of Ioiec on aline carrying; nowell 17."-_to the north of the 5hafer hutte forest service lookout station, into the .0 _ -Tsorseshos Bendarea, and thence heck in ssouthwesterly direction to I. point "_',between Boise and the village of iieridisn, rest of Boise afer Iilese ,o,.-a--. .~:

"' Duringthis march, which lasted approximately twoand one-half ;..;_-_,..;...-.&hours, I lee under and aroundrapidly formingcumulus cloudsover that '0-_"area known as the Canes Prairie, east of Boise. fhe clouds were near the :5 -'.yillage of ?airfield in that valley, and F- airfield is 76 exiles airline ;,;f._,_'____

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'0 ? I turned theaircraft onan easterlyheading, pointingtoward Goeen.r .jg. Field, and had flown on that course for perhapsaninute when theresuddenly _ _'j,'__'appeared inthe left hand portionof myfield of visionanobject nh_i_ch_s _"f-A "j f"-""-hlect and round. ' " - '.*'- ' ..'1'T _f'I;;":_?&_ -

- I immediately centerodvq gaze on the ohjeot-. At that tine, due to itserre ic uoveocnt, I thought'I was seeing;aweather hclloon. I oolledCM" eoizunicetion station at Boise, and asked if the weather station l|al_1!'_, ..receltly releasede balloon.The replyfrom comunioatorllherteon othat

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rolled outof the topof the maneuver at this-point, and I lost sight?of it '. This entire porfordonce was otaerved against the background of

cloud 2 3-rev! 0|-sly Iorminzto_ce, relatively, es theknee hoe for sec; it vac.

over the beans Prairie. The dejoctiappeored size ofn twenty-five cert piece._-i do not.1 do not tne:, nor can I trvthfullg estizgte

its speed. I can only so: it ea: not an airplane, andif it nos st.avery great distance from me, its speed use great, taking into consider-ation that apparent speed is reduced to thc'viencrif an object is 1 very great distance sway.' '~ '~ "~ >*";'r I forget to lock ct the object. The CA5 : lo;

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mr clock to deternine tte enact tire I canof radio contacts shoe: an first eestect"

t 12: 7 hours. Eu: a fez second: elapsed betneen. the object, end the time I called the'3at's-

lg re1ete_evcr t e radio E 33E?IpEi0aof that I the conversation.I have not checked to uctcresne.of my relating over the air that I so: was to Enablof the report to the neeepapcr,for ot_thet time I nd4: energies thcnceforth were devoted to ll tran

er fuel and to note seae telephone calls. '-,;i fYrob, begun within half an hour after landing from

another too hours, tut nos negative. -1-exploredon chore I can the object.A1-1- . -~after ci itin, tro object, I askedif t cre were o

113 maneuvers in the vicinity 0f_uupa, but that nus behind uc.- 4.6-32yaased over Loiae, butI sue that aircraft 50 beneath ue kg some2,000feet. The P-bl in the vicinityof tuna proceeded ta the srea'dhere&saw the abject, at_n5 request, and conducted e search.Puring the afternoon, flightsof P-Els core sent out toand 2919: then flee high altitude aiesioni 01 ezggen."

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'Reference is made to ureau le_tter.r1a,_tgd__July 21, l9._'_?, addressedto Yrs. Hicksv1I[e Lon . Island NewI 5 3 York, a copy of 1 -'hiCh was sent to tne I-ew wk Office. 7

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"r. "; fews.'3a_'r," Eiempstead, New York,was interviewed and advi sed that this article hadbeen sent to the newsoaner

by letter which was signed "Radio Ham," and explained that he had no way ofdetermining the identity of the writer. }.'.r.?stated that it was hisopinion-_that the code had been made up by some ocal "screwball" who hadbeen affected by all ofghe newspaper publicity that had beengiven at that

-I time to the story about flying discs.There is enclosed an article appearing in the July 12th issue of

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flying discs is very similar to the situation which was previously encounteredIcy the Bureau during the past war in handling complaints arising out of thesighting of Japanese baloons. You will recall that at the inception of thesecomplaints the Blreau conducted considerable investigation and located numerousbaloons as a cooperative measure for the Arnur and that after considerable workhad been done, the Army then informed that these were military weapons and thatthey wouldtake over the handling of these completely. This they did and in anextremely short time issued s big press release as to the splendid work of-theArmy i.n locating these Japanese baloons. From the information available thus

far, it does not appear that these discs should be treated other than as a ; military weapon. Certainly the Bureau has no way to determine what experiments 'the Amyand Navyare conductingand whethersuch mightbe arisingout of Kexperiments being conducted by them nor do we have any way of determining how

ethe results of experiments by the Russian Army. It short, it would cr"t ainlyappear thatthisis a militarysituation andshould behandled strictlyty g'Qt.;rv authoritiesH11 _ ___,_ _.- an.-,, ___. ___- -.,._.

In this connection it might be pointed out that our present Portlandcase arose out of the fact that two Arnw Intelligence officers were returning

__.__._'__f froman interviewof two individuals who reportedly had seen flying discs. Ifhe Army Intelligence officers are handling some of these interviews, it is be-

Fleved thatthey shouldbe handlingall ofthese interviews,anditis notbeiieved that the Bureau should be expending its precious manpower on these com-plaints which thus far have no connection with our Russian espionage program.The gn'l1'H'.n1'u'nu+.hr921~'H-.5 nof'!a1~92'.n'92Y92'921!' }'92caf+,'awn or annu van:-A -in lrvarur 1-+92n+ ~l-,1-92Q92r-1-us.""__-""' J' """ "" ""'92"" "92""''924'4"""H' 55" -'"92-"'92"'l 92- 92-192 "']-',{'923'~**"VI-"l92-'"I"lCl -' V415!nl-I:looking for than we are and have more facilities for handling any material whichit is necessary to examine as a result of its beingreported as a remnant oi aflying disc. It is believed that the Bzreau is merely playing bird-dog for theArmy by using our manpower to run out these complaints on flying discs.

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_. Colonel _ stated that he based his assumption on the' "~' following: Be pointed out that when flying objects were reported seen over

-IL _ Sweden, the high brass" of the liar Department exerted tremendous pressure' on the Air Forces Intelligence to conduct research and collect information- "

1 'in an effort to identity these sightings. Colonel stated that, in " -; 4 contrast to this, In have reported sightings of unknown objects over the iF

United States, and the "high brass" appeared to be totally unconcerned. 1 7QZ 1'He indicated this led him to believe that they knew enough about these' I fobjects to express no concern. Oolonel* pointed out further that the &~ e objects in question have been seen by many dividuals who are what heterms "trained observers, such as airplane pilots. lie indicated also that

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, Portland, reported without cons mg any records that on une 21+, 19b7, While prospecting at a point in the Cascade Mountains approximately five thousand feet from sea level,during the afternoon he noticed a reflection, looked up, and saw a disc pro- ceeding in :1 southeasterly direction. Inmediately upon sighting this object he placed histelescope to his eye and observed the disc for approximately forty-five tb sixty seconds. He remarked that it is possible for him to piclcup an object at a distance of ten miles with his telescope. At the time thedisc was sighted by Kr. it was banking in the sun, and he observed five or six similar objects but only concentrated on one. He related that they did not fly in any particular formation and that he would estimate their height to be about one thousand feet from where he was standing. He said the object was about thirty feet in die.meter.and appeared to have a tail. It made no noise.

According to _ he remained in the vicinity of the Cascades Ifor several days and then returned to Portland and noted an article in the localpaper which stated in effect that a man in Boise, Idaho, had sighted a Similar object but that authorities had disclaimed any knowledge of such an object. He said he conmunicated with the M-nu; for the sole purpose of attempt- ing to add credence to the story furnished by the man in Boise.

. _als0 related that on the occasion of his sighting the objects on June 21+, 19L ? he had in his possession a combination compass and watch. He noted particularly that immediately before he sighted the disc the compass acted very peculiar, the hand waving from one side to the dither, but that this

condition corrected itself immediately after the discs had passed out of sight.

Informant appeared to be a very reliable individual who advised that he had been a prospector in the states of Montana, Washington, and Oregon for the past forty years.

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Astorm had occurred in Phoenix on the afternoon of July 7, 1947,and the clouds were at approximately 5000 feet, the color of which was grey and they resembled dense cumulus. A fifteen mile per hour wind was blowing.At approximately 5 p.m. on that date, It:-..was walking from his home to the and he heard a noise resembling a P-B0 aircraft, apparently coming in a westerly direction. Upon searching the skies he observed to the northeast what appeared to be an odd shaped ship. He described this ship asbeing possibly 20 to 30 feet in diameter, traveling at an estimated speed of

100miles_per hour. It appeared to be making a spiral in a small radius of 5possibly one-half to three quarters ofa mile. _Stated the sound whichhe first heard was no longer audible; that he hurriedly procured a 120 Brownie Box Camerafrom his shop, and as the aircraft completed the first circle he obtained a photograph. As the ship started on the second turn, it was in a northwesterly direction from his place and he again snapped a photograph, which

more closely resembled the shape of the ship than photograph #1, this being designated as Exhibit II, as submitted to the Bureau with letter dated August 1,, 1947, by the Office of Assistant Chief of Staff A-2 Intelligence, Hamilton Field, California. - further described the di-rection of the ship by ,stating that instead of completing the lefthand downward spiral the ship banked to the right and disappeared into the clouds. He stated that just as it banked,he had snapped the second photograph, Exhibit II.

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at the last mint, which was at the estimted it to be between 1,000 and 2,000feet high. He further described the appearance of this ship as closely resembling a picture which appear on the front cover of the May, 1947, issue of the Mechanics Illustrated Magazine,

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mentioned dimensions and distances were only estimated, pointing out, that his previous experience probably assisted him in making fairly close estimates. He related that he had been doing experimental. work for the past ten. years. He also stated he was anployed at the Naval Ordnance laboratory, Washington, D. C.during the early {art of World War II and left there the beginning of 1942.Upon his return to Phoenix, he was employed at Falcon Field near Phoenix which was -leased by the British Government for training purposes. He instructed ininstrument training, aircraft identification and gunnery practice. He explained

. that his hobbies have Ito do with science, physics, radio, electronics and astrono"He produced a model which he had made ofa radio controlled airplane. He related that most of his work consists of building transformers, but it is also necessary for him to depend upon his music abiliiy for his livlihood.

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; In explaining the resultsof photographing the ship,stat-edtl-at he was surprised that the object appeared dark on a light back-ground;that he ly expectedthat the object would be light ona dark back-ground. He described the light spot which appears in the centerof the objectEzdiibit II! as beinga green house. insistedthat the ship made no Anoise that was audibleto his ear and he was unable to detect the presenceof 7any propeller. He also related that after the newspaper release over Radio'Station RTAR, wherein statements were madethat he, had stated A1-myofficials were studying the photographs, and that it was a top secret, heattemptedto determine the sourceof this release and the Radio station finallytold him that it was a United Press release from Washington, D. C.

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At 5:40 P.M. to-day I observed a so-called flying

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For the Bureau's informationa Mrs.g of Sagrbrook fIllinois reported to this office the finding of a flying discin her front yard at 6:00 A.M. on July 26, 1947.

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