TRANSCRIPT O F TELEPHONE CALL PLACED BY EDUARDO AROCENA

TO F B I SPECIAL AGENT LARRY WACK ON- JULYv,2-1, k 9 8 3

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This i s SA Larry E. Wack, New York Off ice , FBI. I ' m a t my res idence, New J e r sey telephone (201 548-5041. This w i l l be an a t tempt t o t ape record t h e voice of Eduardo Arocena who i s known t o m e .

( S t a r t of conversat ion) Hey s t ranger .

EDUARDO AROCENA (E) How you doing?

How a r e you?

Fine and you? -

Okay, how you doing?

U h , p r e t t y good,

So f a r ?

So f a r , I c a n ' t complain about it, uh I heard something, l i k e a message you guys s e n t , t h a t t r u e ?

Which one?

I d o n ' t know (un in t e l ) exac t ly from where.

No, I mean which message?

W e l l l i k e uh something about uh t h e t h i n g s going on now,

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W e l l uh, l e t m e , l e t t r y and th ink

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Yeah, w e l l uh, l e t m e mention, you mean about uh. na rco t i c s , o r

No, no, no, i t ' s no t t h a t uh someone r e a l i z e a message from you guys i n o rder t o , t o g e t t o m e . I know what uh, you uh, uh, g o t an order from uh S t a t e Department, uh, Department of J u s t i c e , t h a t kind of thing going on.

Naw, w e ' r e uh, t h e only, t h e only problem we're having r i g h t now Eddie a s f a r a s you and y m r buddies i n Miami a r e concerned is t h a t uh

n a r c o t i c s

What about it

W e l l , t he , you know t h e o l d - stuf3Z.

- (un in t e l ) have t o uh

Is it him? Is it him?

Yeah him and uh, and uh, Castro and uh uh, t h a t o the r guy uh Fernandez? Manny Fernandez o r something?

No (un in t e l )

And 1'11 t e l l you t h e t r u t h Eddie, I g o t a very sneaky suspic ion t h a t uh some guys might have been doing some s t u f f behind your back t h a t you weren' t aware of

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E Well uh I c a n ' t uh, be uh, a l l t he places a t same time, I canf t

Yeah I know.

I c a n ' t be i n o ther places same time, but I, I don ' t think uh, I don ' t t h i n k they uh, they have, some, something behind my back, I don ' t know, because I c a n ' t be sure about t h a t cause uh, no, g o t t a be uh b u l l s h i t . somebody t ry ing t o do th ings

No but

No, my guys a r e , a r e clean

W e l l ,

Larry, I don ' t believe. t h a t ,

You don ' t?

No, not one. second,

What do you think i s going on?

Well I don ' t know, maybe you go t uh good r e l a t i o n s (unin te l ) you, a f t e r t h a t you guys saw. something you know, uh you got those guys r i g h t ?

What guys?

Manny Fernandez and uh Castro.

No, w e don ' t have, what do you mean we have them?

You don ' t have t h a t uh, t h a t guys?

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How come the , t h e rumorywork, work aga ins t us and not , not' them and uh they you know they have uh

W e l l you know.

(unin te l ) th ings

Huh?

You know they qo t a l l the th ings , a l l t h e drugs an: &I, a l l the s t u f f on t h e , on the records, how come, how come th ings work aga ins t us, and supposedly w e t h e good guys and uh t h a t ' s what t h e sometimes you s a i d and uh

$?ell, I understand you're, yotitre t h e good guys but I ' m t ry ing t o keep the drug th ing out of t h i s th ing Eddie and I ' m t ry ing t o g e t it c leared up.

I don ' t th ink uh, uh, you have t o , s t a r t g e t doubt about it, but uh i f you guys r e a l l y want. t o g e t r i d of those guys you have time enough, uh, and uh and uh proof enough t o , t o do t h a t , so when those guys would like t o arrange f o r me, you know.

Which guys? . .

(unin te l ) Enrique Castro and the guys uh

O h , yeah I mean

You. r e l y on informati.on i n order t o g e t uh b ig drug. connection (un in te l ) so when you pressure (unin te l )

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I n the meantime you supposed t o know uh t h a t uh Castro type, of uh (un in te l ) the exact thing i s I have a l l , the , a l l the t ra ined . forces on my s ideo I can have uh everything i n , i n an hour (unin te l ) information about aS.1 my people o r m y f r iends .

Please deposi t ninety cents , n inety cents , f o r the pas t f ive

minutes. Thank you.

Hey Eddie, l i s t e n ,

Yeah,

Don't g e t mad a t t h i s thing, j u s t help m e c l a r i f y t h e thing

- NO, no, no,. no, wel l , w e l l , I don ' t - th ink th ings c l e a r the. way it i s uh,

I got , I have some .information t h a t someone the re around you guys and uh block, blocking th ings

What do you mean?

Block, yeah somebody uh, somebody uR around you uh block t h e guys the re , and block things i n order t o don ' t g e t us uh t o g e t a good connection

- with you guys, t h a t ' s what, t h a t ' s what, t h a t one th ing and I g e t t h a t information a while ago, a while ago so uh

I , I don ' t , w a i t a minute, You're ta lk ing i n circles, explain what you mean

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E Hey Larry, I have t o (un in te l ) you don ' t make good judges of myself what I ' m t e l l i n g you, I c a n ' t explain w e l l what 1 r e a l l y want t o say i n English but I could t e l l you i n Spanish bu t you, you don ' t understand what I mean

W e l l I. un.. .you. speak English a l r i g h t .

No, no, no, but 1 g e t l o s t when I want, when I t r y t o uh, uh g e t uh, g e t uh s t ra ight ,You know.

W e l l you th ink , you. say somebody i s t ry ing t o block

Right, has been t ry ing t o do t h a t fo r long, long t ime, so

One l i t t l e bridge, remember t h e br idge w e t r y t o bui ld?

- - Yeah.

Someone put uh, stone on t h e bridge, and uh b ig , and uh uh almost the bridge col lapse, co l lapse , r i g h t ?

No, not r ea l ly .

W e l l , I know t h a t , an uh many, many uh

T i m e s when I t r y t o uh t o uh make good you know keep th ings uh, around f o r you, work on someone the re uh switch th ings around. U h information I got it i s like somebody the re t r y t o uh, uh, destroy the whole thing i n order . t o uh g e t them uh promotion o r whatever, t h a t uh you know, g e t uh r e a l l y good, good, mean uh

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Somebody i s t ry ing t o des t ry the whole thing t o make themself look good

Right.

Is t h a t what you're t ry ing t o say?

Right, t h a t ' s what I t r y t o say. And uh

W e l l , who i s tha t . someone?

W e l l , uh, I w i l l have t o uh w a i t a l l t h e information come i n . So what I can t e l l you i s t h i s

W e l l . I don ' t , hey Ed, l i s t e n ,

I don ' t bel ieve t h a t .

W e l l I have t o think t h a t because uh w e l l t h e whole th ing s t a r t e d uh, s t a r t e d one way and uh, everything going uh aga ins t u s

Yeah but l i s t e n .

No, no, no, l i s t e n uh a l l po in ts , a11 my bodies , a l l my f r i ends , a l l my r e l a t i v e s , a l l my important people remember, uh have t o (un in te l ) uh, have t o uh g e t t h e drug business, g e t them r e a l hard you know. And uh, (un in te l ) surv iva l , (un in te l ) . Hey Eddie.

Yeah

Lis ten I know what you're t a l k i n g about, W e a r e not t ry ing t o destroy. - - - - - -

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No, l e t me t e l l you someth ing

L i s t e n

Someone a s k me

You know what t h e problem i s ?

Yeah

I ' ll t e l l you e x a c t l y what t h e problem is.

N e s t o r qornez

Uh huh

I g n a c i o Gonzalez <-.,a- -, a-

Uh huh

Necuse .. - -

Uh huh

J u s t o Rodr iguea --.

-Uh huh

A r r o jo ".X-,.*.rl.

Uh huh

His s o n : , Pepe

Huh huh

Uh, M i l t o n Badia

Nho?

Mi l t on

Uh huh, yeah

R igh t ?

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Al r igh t , and I t o l d him t h a t you guys have, I don ' t know how you're going t c do it Eddie, o r how t h e y ' r e going t o do it, you guys have t o he lp us wi th Remon and. them. W e '.re running o u t of t ime

W e l l , w e th ink

However t h e o the r problem i s this Eddie. The Grand Jury people, r i g h t ?

Yeah,

And t h e Department of J u s t i c e

Uh huh

Do n o t app rec i a t e Nestor Gomez and - N e c u ~ e and these guys coming up and - making us look l i k e a bunch of a s s e s ,

_because ..we *,,+ !ISEE~,IT~ . toA . k w x that* ;,kgw a r e the rest of 4the._9.Tga&&&&~n . . I C I " I C I " - .

Sr w e 'have reason t o be l i eve t h a t . We a l s o have reason t o be l i eve t h a t they have done a f e w t h i n g s

(un in t e l ) I don ' t t h ink you have proof

W e l l , I'm not t e l l i n g you w e have, I ' m n o t t e l l i n g you w e have

(un in t e l ) Thank you.

Hello?

Yeah, l i s t e n 1 'm n o t t e l l i n g you w e , w e have proof o r anything Eddie, a f l s I ' m t e l l i n g you is t h a t information i s coming t o us from o t h e r s i d e s t h a t w e have to_ a c t _uponpalright, now there's a

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Uh, you want, YOU want uh, my opinion, these uh things?

Yeah, w e l l I wish

(unin te l ) t h i s . time (unin te l )

W e l l t e l l m e how not

(unin te l ) a s I t e l l you before I , I, don ' t want t o t a l k t o you anymore and (unin te l ) couple of f r i ends (unin te l )

You d i d n ' t t e l l me you weren' t going t o t a l k . t o m e anymore,

No, . t ha t , t h a t what I t o l d you l a s t time because uh, I don ' t th ink anything (unin te l ) you know (unintel. ) so and uh that . ' s what, l i s t e n ,

I can1 t do enought with it Eddie -

I know, l i s t e n uh Larry, cause I - a i n ' t got too much time. You have

so many things t o do, some war caning uh, i n the two months ahead

Two. months ahead?

Yeah, t h e r e gonna be. a war

What. war

War, r i g h t (unin te l )

Yeah

(unintel;)

Alr ight

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But, but it was, it was r i g h t here i n you . own, your own back yard (un in te l ) r i g h t now, no we f e e l l i k e w e a r e enemies from you guys, w e don ' t g o t a f i g h t aga ins t you, you got enough enemies (unin te l ) f i g h t . W e l l I understand tha t .

A n d w e don' t want, I don ' t want uh l o s t f r i end , f r i ends and (un in te l ) with you guys, understand?

Yeah, no

I have t o go someplace else with uh, (un in te l ) where someone else uh, uh, c a l i our a t t e n t i o n on our help and we 're going t o do t h i s again, you understaad what I mean?

Fine.

- Cause we go t uh few points . One - poin t i s our fa ther land, one poin t

is uh (unin te l ) w e a r e unable, w e don ' t do anything here bu t (un in te l ) see what I mean when I g e t l o s t ?

Nah, I ' m , . I ' m with you

(un in te l ) cause t h a t way 1 order a l ready nobody going t o uh help you anymore, i n t h a t p a r t i c u l a r way.'

What d id you do t h a t f o r ? ,

U h , because uh why, why we have t o do t h a t ? But i f you a r e r e a l l y a c t i n g i n good f a i t h , r i g h t , i f you r e a l l y want t o do th ings r i g h t , see the whole thing, w e can help you.

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E W e have many, many eyes , many many arms, and a f ace 'and w e go, and w e can go t o t h i n g s t h a t you can never g e t near of

W e l l , I unders.,

W e g o t , w e g o t information and we g e t everything o u r s e l f , f o r ou r se l f i n o r d e r t o uh, cont inue t o f i g h t , Understand t h a t 1, mean?

I under s . . ( u n i n t e l )

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I understand. t h a t Eddie.

But-we l o s i n g s t r eng th t h a t you g o t he re , now i f you g e t a l l those guys have t o go t o uh, t o uh Grand Ju ry whatever you l i k e

(End of Side 1. Change t ape .)

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( u n i n t e l ) t r y t o uh, uh, you know uh ( u n i n t e l ) our o rgan iza t ion , ( u n i n t e l ) ourse lves so uh, t h a t d o n ' t uh ( u n f n t e l 1 don ' t want ( u n i n t e l )

Hey Eddie

I' have no reason

And I don ' t , I don ' t t h ink ( u n i n t e l ) you t r y t o p u t uh wrong t h i n g s i n my head.

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I ' m no t t r y i n g t o Eddie, I have no reason t o l i e t o *you,

Cause, I know, I know, I know ( u n i n t e l ) o t h e r people t r y ( u n i n t e l ) i n o rder t o don ' t make uh, uh, drug ( u n i n t e l ) and uh someone ( u n i n t e l )

You .know

Yeah b u t Eddie

Yeah

Ups ta i r s

Uh huh

Wants. t o know i n t h e meantime what a r e we supposed t o do wi th reg^ and them?

Hang on - - Eighty c e n t s p lease ( u n i n t e l )

You know where I w a s . t h i s . a f ternoon?

Uh huh

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why Re- should be Iceg*Lfh . Now I know you would probably like t o have e m l e t o u t b u t I , I mean I c a n ' t ope ra t e l i k e t h a t , You know what, you know what t h e r e

I t e l l you, l e t m e t e l l you something, ( u n i n t e l ) But you guys c a n ' t do anything a b o u t . t h a t , you know what I mean2

Eddie, i f , i f I could g e t one of t hose guys l i s t e n ,

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I f I could g e t one of those guys i n t h a t group who's in j a i l r i g h t now, who knew t h e whole s tory , t o t e s t i f y aga ins t t he rest of them, t h i s b a l l game would be over.

Yeah b u t uh, t h e important po in t nobody g~nna_ , f e w i n s t R e m 0 5 not because when .Y%L putW.&!=t in --. q.O,*,-- -. 8 " - - +A"'%. ' - +

p u b h c , t h a t guy i s dead. When t h e rm- * Y ' resf 'of t h e ' o t h e r " " ~ o u p s , t h e o the r organization, p lus a change of t h e whole community, of t h e whole uh, our people, you c a n ' t do, c a n ' t never work t h a t way, but , t h a t ' s why w e can't work a s uh, a s uh

Hey wait a minute, it, it hey l i s t e n , w e weren't

S$"$ - yl. I don ' t owe t h e m anythmg

Eddie and ne i the r do you. -

There 's more, many more th ings t o put them away-

They destroyed it,

No they won't dest roy it,

No, I s a i d they destroyed

Destroy what?

The organizat ion. .

U s ?

Yeah

Naw, no way.

Yeah. they d id -

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community be l ieves i n us.

You know why they destroyed t h e organization?

Yeah.

Because, i t ' s because of them t h a t w e found ou t about you,

Yeah,. bu t they don ' t belong t o us-

Not anymore

They don ' t , w e l l , bu t uh t h e e n t i r e community don ' t don ' t don ' t recog, recognize- t h a t , they theyb?long to** t h e o ther ,- ..+4M.w"-*m --.+. - r SSKS erriM*~h t o thq,4Aefit and .a, ,and .,~ammwisg **-?'+.e

- Eddie there.'^. some guys

- And us , w e have been f igh t ing f o r e igh t years and nobody's gonna do a nothing t o prevent u s cause w e have (unin te l ) o r what w e would put t o do t o keep t h e f i g h t a l i v e , And we're gonna prove more than t h a t , L e t m e t e l l you t h i s Larry, w e . (un in te l ) we're going t o l i b e r a t e our country, Believe it o r n o t gonna be a way, Cause (unin te l ) i n days ahead, months ahead t h a t ' s u s gonna be the only ones who gonna do t h e th ings ,

W e l l , I, Eddie I don ' t have any question about t h a t

(un in te l ) someone else.' s a f f a i r

Yeah, but i t ' s my a f f a i r ,

I know

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. And i t ' s a l s o your a f f a i r you know whether you l i k e it o r no t Eddie

Okay Larry g o t t a go, I see bad t h i n g s I don ' t l i k e it.

See what?

See bad t h ings down here , I d o n ' t l i k e it.

Uh you, you see t o o many t h i n g s dswr. t he re .

W e l l , I have, t h a t . ' s why I ' m s t i l l a l i v e

Huh?.

I have t oo many enemies - Maybe I 117 sue you, K, KGB o r , I g o t you guys ( u n i n t e l ) Larry and uh

- Lis t en , w e ' r e n o t your enemy Eddie-

W e l l , you understand? You t r y t o uh, t o uh ( laughs) t o g e t r i d of u s , and uh

W e . ' r e . n o t t r y i n g t o g e t

Right now w e t r y t o uh keep a l i v e and uh keep. t h e f i g h t ( u n i n t e l ) our people ( u n i n t e l )

L i s t en

And l e t m e t e l l you something Larry , uh I haven ' t t o l d your, your guys, and uh w e supposed t o do something, uh, uh, t h e r e i n uh New York ( u n i n t e l ) you have oppor tuni ty to do a d i s a s t r a u s t h i n g b u t I t e l l t h e guys (uninteb) t h i s way and l e t m e t e l l you t h e way w e have cooperated. W e have been around and w e saw how t h e o t h e r guys, a l l t h e Communists laugh a t you guys ( u n i n t e l ) and laugh a t t h e o t h e r s i de .

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Seventy-five cen ts . You have twenty cen t s c r e d i t . Please depos i t seventy-five cen ts . Thank you.

Okay Larry, that .+ it.

So what a r e you t e l l m e , uh, you're gonna come up here and dest roy New York?

I won't do t h a t , uh (un in te l ) I could pu t New York f l a t .

Yeah you 'don.'t

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1 g o t t h e power t o do t h a t . I don't- want t o & t h a t

You don ' t , you don ' t want t o do t h a t -

(un in te l ) n o t because I wanna uh -

Lis ten , before you take of f here I g o t , w e need help with Puerto Rican t e r r o r i s t groups t h e white r a d i c a l groups and black r a d i c a l groups. You heard of this g i r l Chegim-ard? The black g i r l t h a t k i l l e d t h e S t a t e Trooper? I n New Jersey? W e nee+dwhpeAlp

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token ~ d d i e , t e l l your guys no t t o come up here andxnake the , Grand Jury look l i k e and f e e l l i k e a bunch of a s s e s because they don ' t apprec ia te it.

Alr igh t , I don ' t know how you're going t o end t h e whole th ing bu t uh, I suggest t h a t uh you go over t a l k t o the , your bosses and uh, uh, I, I consider uh, uh, a t t h i s moment very

dangerous th ing r i g h t now, no t no t with us , bu t uh, t h e , t h e , t h e pressure Castro bringing t o t h e United S t a t e s and. w e cannot. s t a y here because ( u n i n t e l

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So I don ' t know what you ' re gonna do about it. So, bu t w e don ' t , w e don ' t wanna uh, s t ay uh, uh, s i t down and, and watch what happens.

W e l l , i f ' you

W e gonna g e t involved cause we have t o do t h a t

W e l l I understand t h a t .

(un in te l ) f i g h t a w a r alone you g o t t h e Goddamn Congress and you go t t h e , t h e , t h e Senate and uh a l l t h e l i b e r a l s so uh a g a i n s t them, (un in te l ) I don ' t understand you guys

(laughs)

No. r e a l l y .

- What do you. mean you guys? -

W e l l , 1 don.' t- mean you Larry, I mean (.un.in.tel) .

Chri.st Eddie. we go t

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W e go t ships , w e got . sh ips of f of Centra l America. They j u s t s en t b a t t l e s h i p s down t h e r e two days ago.

See. that.'s a bandage .

Huh?

That.% a bandage

That.% a. what?

A bandage, you put , you go t a. s c ra t ch?

Oh a bandage.

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A bandage, r i g h t .

yeah.

Tha t ' s no t , t h a t ' s n o t t h e , Larry you have t o go t h e r e and you have t o f i g h t a g a i n s t them and see, you don ' t do t h a t , you gone a way t h e death ef them, cause, you gonna, you gonna down, I don ' t know how you gonna be l i k e t h a t

L is ten , when

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W e ' l l , w e ' l l , w e ' l l worry about t h e b a t t l e he re i n t h i s country. The United S t a t e s does no t want, t h e United S t a t e s people does no t want another Vietnam Eddie.

( laughs) No I don ' t be l i eve t h a t - - No

Not a t a l l

And i f you th ink you can go and t ake o n t h e e n t i r e world and South America, yea and your handful of guys, t h a t you g o t l e f t , I wish you a l o t of luck

W e l l I t e l l you what uh, w e t r y t o do t h a t .

W e l l I wish you a l o t of luck

W e l l , w e . don ' t have ' anything, w e d o n ' t have nothing over here .

W e l l i f you'd q u i t p laying around wi th u s you would

Huh?

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. If you'd q u i t p laying around. with us you. would

Q u i t , p lay , p lay , p l ay , what? You t a k e us and uh pu t i n j a i l and l e t Communist t a k e r i d o f us and t a k e uh, t a k e your country, what k ind of reason you g o t Larry?

No, nobody, nobody is. saying we want t o g e t you and p u t you in j a i l , I mean what do you want u s t o do, f o r g e t about ,.' everything t h a t ' s happened? Jes

( u n i n t e l ) f o r g e t about

You d o n ' t ask too much

W e l l , I d o n ' t know what you gonna do about it, But uh, have t o be a s o l u t i o n cause t h a t ( u n i n t e l )

W e l l why d o n ' t you g e t a l l * your , , .ge t - ' ~ e c u s e , and " ~ o n z a l e z , &d Go-mznzd an&

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No, because. they d o n ' t , they donn t have no power t o do t h a t .

y no t?

( u n i n t e l ) I d o n ' t want t o t e l l you who and, who who are t h e , t h e , t h e uh t h e member whos u s , you know

W e l l I know what that's for you, you guys - . to- .uh, uh, prove, I don ' t know,

And I s a w what ( u n i n t e l ) t o uh uh ( u n i n t e l ) a l l r i g h t ?

Fine

Paqe 2 1

E And when t h a t th ikg happen I w i l l be appointing one o r two guys t o represen t t h e group, and when t h a t happen (un in t e l ) t o have uh, uh t r u c e (un in t e l )

Please deposi t e ighty-f ive c e n t s , e ighty-f ive cen ts . Thank you. You have f i f t e e n c e n t s c r e d i t -

Hey l i s t e n , immunity can be given t o a l o t of these guys.

No, no, no, no, (un in t e l ) immunity t h a t uh, has t o be uh, uh, i n order t o know, they don ' t g e t punish, punishment because they are (un in t e l ) represen t ing someone t h e r e

That ' s. t h e same immunity

(un in t e l ) Huh?

- - I said, t h a t ' s t h e same immunity - No, no, no, ( u n i n t e l ) don ' t have time

t o go. t o uh, you know uh, do t h i n g s l i k e t h a t uh, i f you want t o t a l k t o , uh, a way (un in t e l ) do something about, w e can do th ings , bu t uh no t a t t h i s point .

W e l l , what do you. suggest?

W e l l , something (un in t e l ) something t h a t uh w i l l be uh s u i t a b l e f o r us and then, then, probably (un in t e l ) group, okay?

What do you th ink , my, my people a r e gonna l e t you guys make t h e r u l e s ?

No, I don ' t , I d o n V t . t r y i n g t o do, do t h a t . But I d o n ' t (un in t e l ) our s t rugg le away because our freedom.

Paqe 22

Nobody's asking you t o do t h a t Eddie.

W e l l

A l l s I ' m asking you t o do is g e t Your guys. together .and cooperate with ma ins tead of giving u s a hard time.

No, no, (un in te l ) another way (un in te l )

W e l l , what do you. want?

W e l l , what I want? I want (uninteb) t r y t o make a t d p t o g e t m e or g e t my o u t f i t , uh t h e member of the counci l , o r th inks like t h a t , w e have many things , many th ings t o do r i g h t now and w e don ' t (un in te l ) spo i l t h a t . That ' s t h e whole poin t , And t h a t ' s (un in te l ) no more

Why. not?

- I don ' t know, have t o hide again and move on, So my f r i end uh, I have bid - you a goodbye, uh I wish you good i n your work, I hope you f i n d uh (unintel)

You know you're, you're being re, stubborn Eddie

NO, I am, I am, a f i g h t e r

Yeah I know you're a f i g h t e r

(Change of tapes)

Par tners , o r a l l i e s , i t ' s up t o us o r (un in te l ) w e be the re , okay? When you i n danger, we be there . L i k e I t o l d you once (unin te l ) w e be the re too, okay Larry? Okay, Bye

Eddie !

(END O F CONVERSATION.