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Bulletproof Radio podcast #280

Bulletproof Radio Podcast #280, Alberto Villoldo

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ofcoffeeandthestuffthatwetypicallydon'thaveinthehigh-endcoffeehousesismuchmorelikelytohavehigheramountsofcaffeinebecauseittendstoalsohavehigheramountsofmoldinitwhichisnowwell-known.

Speakingofplants,ifyou'reavegetarianandyouwonderifyoucouldeatthebulletproofdiet,IjustwroteapostonthatcalledCanVegetariansEatTheBulletproofDiet?Checkthatoutonbulletproofexec.com.

Ifyou'rewatchingonYouTubetoday,younoticedthatI'mliveinthestudiowithaguest.Ifyou'realong-timelistenerorwatcherasthecasemaybe,youmayrecognizehimasAlbertoVilloldo.Albertoisbestsellingauthor,founderoftheworld-renownedInstituteofEnergyMedicineandtheFourWindsSociety.I'veactuallytakensomeclassesonshamanictrainingwithAlberto.

HespenttwodecadeswithshamansinthejunglesorintheAndesandhe'scomeupwithasetofsacredtechnologiesthathebelievescantransformthebodyandhealthesoulandchangethewaywelive,evenhowyoudie.He'sbeenonBulletproofRadiotwiceandtodayhe'sgoingtotalkabouthisnewbookcalledAShaman'sMiraculousToolforHealing.Actually,AShaman'sMiraculousToolsforHealing.Alberto,welcometotheshowandwelcometo-

Alberto: Thankyou,Dave.Goodtobewithyou.

Dave: It'sapleasuretohaveyouhearinpersoninsteadofjustonthephone.

Alberto: Thankyou.Thankyou.

Dave: Now,lastnight,wedidsomecryotherapyheredownstairs.Whatdidyouthinkofthat?

Alberto: Ilovedit.Ilovedit.ItfeltlikeIwasbeingsacrificedhighupintheAndesforalittlewhile,beinglefttheretothesnowgods,butitwasamazingtheresponseofthebodytotheseextremeconditions,similartotheplantsthatyouwerementioningearlier.Whenwegetstressed,we


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produceallofthese...repairsystemsareswitchedoninthebodythatreallyprovidetremendousbeneficialeffectsforus.

Dave: You'reareallyinterestingguy,Alberto,becauseyou'vestudiedtheseancientspiritualdisciplinesbutwhenIfirsttookaclassfromyou,youspenthalfyourtimetalkingaboutpathwaysinthebrain,mitochondrialfunction,oxygenlevel,sirtuinsandalltheseotherthingsthatyouseebiochemist'stalkingabout.Howdidyougetintobrainsciencewhenyou'vetypicallybeensettingthesealteredstates?

Alberto: Youknow,Dave,theshamansweretheveryfirstneuralscientist.Theydiscoveredtheayahuasca,theydiscoveredkurare.Howdotheycomeupwith...andtheyliveinnature'spharmacyintheAmazon.Now,thesacredplantsoftheshamanswhenwetookthemtothelaboratory,wefoundoutthatwhattheydidwasupgradethequalityofthebrainbyrepairingthehippocampus,theregioninthebrainresponsibleforhavinganewexperience,evenanewexperienceofhealth.TheyalsoupgradedtheNrf2detoxpathwayswhicharethesamepathwaysthatcoffeeactivatesandtoswitchonthelongevitychains.NomanintheAmazon...Iaskedthemonetime,howdoIavoidtheillnessesofoldage?Hesaid,"Simple,youjustlivealongandhealthylife."Isaidtohim,"Waitaminute.Youdon'tunderstand."Hesaid,"No,Iunderstandyourquestion.Youlivealongandhealthylifebytakingtheseplants."

Whenwelookedattheminthelab,theysilencedmorethan200genesthatcreatediseaseandswitchedonmorethan500genesthatcreatehealth.Theseweretraditionallythesacredplantsofthemedicinepeopleincludingcurcumin,alloftheNrf2activatorsincludingcoffeeforthesuitins.IntheAndes,coffeeissacredmedicine.Thepsychedelicswereawholedifferentcategorybutthesearetheonesthatmadesurethatyouhadalongandhealthylife.

Dave: There'sasetofmedicinalherbswhicharesometimesconsumedasplantsandspicesandthingslikethat.

Alberto: Yeah.


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Dave: TherearesetofpsychedelicswhichareusedinalmosteverycultureI'veevercomeacrosswherethere'sashamanicpracticethatinvolvesalteredstates.Dothosepsychedelicdrugshavearoleinenhancingcognizantfunctionorlongevityoristhatmoreforjustspiritualexperiences?

Alberto: Theydo.Yousee,wedon'tseparatethespiritualexperienceandtheupgradedbrain.Youneedtohaveanupgradedbraintohaveaspiritualexperience.Otherwise,youneedamassiveamountofpsychedelicsanditdoesn'tlast.Whenyouupgradethebrain,basically,you'rerepairingtheregioninthebrain,thehippocampusthatletsyouhaveanewexperienceandthatdeactivatesthefightorflightresponsesowe'renotlivinginastateofconstantalert.We'renotlivinginfearorscarcity.TheminutethatyoudisablethefightorflightwhichiscalledtheHPAaxis,thehypothalamic-pituitary-adrenalaxis,whenthepituitarystopscrankingoutcortisolandadrenalinethenthepinealglandcanstartmethylating.That'swhatthepinealglanddoes.Itmethylatesserotoninwhenyouneedtogotosleepintomelatoninandyoutweakeditalittlebitmoreandyouendupwithayahuascawithdimethyl,2-methyl,tryptamine,serotoninisotryptamine.

Thepurpose,theobjectofthepineal,oneofitsfunctionsistogetushighnaturallybuttodothat,yougottoupgradeyourbrainandthenyouliveinthestateofonespirit,acommunionwithalllife.

Dave: Forsomeonewho'slisteningrightnow,they'resittingatwork,they'redrivingintheircar,andmaybeevenwatchingourlivevideo,whatwouldtheydotowakeuptheirpineal,toupgradetheirbrainthewayyou'retalkingaboutit?

Alberto: Therearemanywaysthatwecantothat.Oneofthewaysisthroughmeditation.Ittakesalongtime,unfortunately.Therearesupplementsandplantssubstancesthatwecanuse.TheMCToil,theBulletproofdietisdesignedtodothat,butthemostimportantthingistoworksmarter,nottoworkharderbecausewe'rereallypushedtoperform,toworkharder,toproducemore.Whatyouwanttodoistohaveworkhappenandsuccesshappenbutnothavetobethedoerallthetime,togetthedoingoutoftheequation,buttosimplyhavechoreographyourlifeso


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thatyougetthebenefitsthatyouwantfromit.It'swhattheshamanscalleddreamingyourworldintobeing.

Dave: That'swasthetitleofoneofyourbooks,that'sright.

Alberto: Yeah.Ifyoudon'tdreamintobeingthenyougottowrestlewithittotrytogetitintoatolerableshapesoitdoesn'tgooutofhand.Todothat,youneedtoaccessahigherbrainstates.

Dave: There'ssomethingIusedtodoalotwhichwasI'dstruggle.Youcanuseaforceofwillandefforttojustmakesomethinghappenbutit'sanenormousamountofenergyinorderdoingit.

Alberto: It'shuge.

Dave: Iusedtothinkthat,youknow,struggle,workingreallyhard,that'swhatmakesyoubetter,thatwhat'sgivesyouprogress,andcertainly,sometimespushingyourself,learningtopushyourselfharddoesthat.AsI'veevolved,Irealizedthatthere'sadifferencebetweenworkinghardandstrugglingtoworkhard.Isthispartofyourshamanicteachings?

Alberto: Absolutely.Youknow,whenwewerehuntergatherersbackinthePaleolithicdays,youworkreallyhardtocatchanantelopeandthenyourelaxandthenyouworkreallyhardtocatchanotherantelope.Oursocietytodaywantstohaveworkerbeesandwearetold,we'resoldthisideathattheharderyouwork,thebetterofahumanbeingyouare.Youwanttoworksmarter,morecreatively,andmoreinalignmentwiththeflowofcreation,andthatmeansdoinglessbuthavingmorehappen.

Dave: Gotit.

Alberto: You'renotstrugglinganymore.Whenyouareinharmonywithyourselfandwithlifethentheuniversewillsupportyou.

Dave: Inyourbook,youtalkedaboutturningfaithintodestiny.Now,alotofpeoplelisteningwhocomefromawesternbackgroundislike,"Okay.MaybeIdon'tbelieveinfaith.Idon'tbelieveindestiny.Idon'thaveacleardefinitionofthosetwo."Couldyoulinkthosetogetherevenifyou


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believedinbothofthem?Walkmethroughhowyouwouldexplainthoserelativelyinwhatwecallinaairy-fairyconcept.

Alberto: Faithanddestiny.They'rereallynotairy-fairy,youknow.Faithiswhatyouare...whathasbeenpreordainedforyoubyyourkarma,byyourpsychology,byyourfamilyoforigin,byyourgenetics,youknow.Dowewanttorepeattheillnessesofourparents?Theywaysthey'velived,thewaytheydied,thewaytheygotold,thesenseofhumorthattheyhadwhichwaszilchwithmyfamily.Doyouwanttowriteyourownstory?Doyouwanttocraftadestinythatisinfusedwithmeaning,withpurpose,whereyoudon'thavetoliveouttheheartconditionsorthebreastconditionsorthecancersthatruninthefamily?

Dave: Faith,inthewayyou'reusinginhere,isbasicallywhatwasalreadyinyourgenesorinyourhistoryormaybeinyourenergy.

Alberto: Totallyandyou'reintoit.Seethis,we'regettingintotheshamanicnowbecausetheshamans,theoriginalPaleolithicvisionariesbelievethatwehavealuminousenergyfieldthatinformsthebodyandthatorganizesthebodythewaythatamagnetorganizesironfilingsonapieceofglass.Thatisfulloninformationincludingtheinformationabouthowyouwillheal,howyouwilllive,howyoumakeitsick,andhowyoumightdie.

Dave: SomeoftheverylatestresearchcomingoutlikeStephenWolfram'sresearchonmathematicsandsomeofthelatestthoughtsaboutinformationfieldsarenowstartingtomaketheseoldbeliefslooklessradicalthanweoncethought.Evenwhenyou'reanembryoandjustasinglecell,thereissomethingthattellseachofthosecellshowtodifferentiate...

Alberto: Totally.

Dave: ...whattodifferentiateto.Itisafield.Whenyou-

Alberto: It'sthefield,yeah.Yousee,therearetwostatesinphysics.There'sthefieldstateandtheparticlestate.Weareinourparticlestaterightnowbutwhenwedie,wegobacktoourfieldstate.WhenIasktheshamans,"What'stheobject,ofallofthistraining?"Theysaidtome,"Theobject


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ofshamanismistolearnhowtogetoutofthislifealive."Ithought,"Oh,interesting.Moreinterestingthanhowtohealmymotherissuesandmydaddyissues."You'vegottorememberwe'redealingwithinformation.Ifit'sinthefield,you'vegottoclearitfromthefieldandthenhealinghappensandthenyoudon'thavetoexpressthegeneticsforthefamilyillnesses.Thenyoubegintocraftyourowndestiny.

Fortheshaman,whenweteachourstudentsattheFourWindsSociety,wetellthemthatthere'sadifferencebetweeninformationandknowledge.InformationisknowingthatwaterisH2Oorthatwehaveafield.Knowledgeisbeingabletomakearain.There'sadifferencebetweenthem.

Dave: Yeah,there'sadifferencebetweenthem.Youspentabout20yearsstudyingthisatrainedculturalanthropologistandthenbecomingatrainedshaman.

Alberto: Asamedicalanthropologist.

Dave: Medicalanthropologist,sorry.

Alberto: ThenIbecameashaman.

Dave: Notcultural,you'reamedicalnotcultural.Ialwaysgetthatwrong.Okay,andthenyoubecameashaman.

Alberto: Mm-hmm(affirmative).

Dave: Didyouthinkthatwaswhatwouldhappenwhenyoustartedthetraining?

Alberto: IrememberoncebeingwithashamanthatIwasstudyingandtellinghimaboutchaostheory.Youknowchaostheory,thebutterflythatflappeditswingsinBeijingandcauseatropicalstormintheCaribbean.Hesaystome,"Showme."Igo,"Whatdoyoumean,showyou?Thisisphysics.Ican'tshowyou."Hesays,"Ifyoucantalkaboutit,it'sbecauseyoucandoit,right?"IhadabrandnewPh.D.andhesays,"Comeon,flapyourlittledoctorwingsandhealsomebodyinIndia."Isaid,"Ican'tdothat."Hesaid,"Ican."


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Dave: Wow.

Alberto: It'sthedifferencetoday.Wecanexplaineverything,theoriginoftheuniverse,wherewe'regoing,whoweare,biology,quantumphysics,butwecan'tmakeitrain.Youknow,we'restilldealingwiththemwiththemindinitsquestforfiguringouttheworldbutwe'renotabletochangeit.Whattheshamanictraditionshave,theyhavethecoreenergeticsforhowyoushiftyourluminousarchitecturetocreateadifferentrealityinyourbodyandthenyourworld.

Dave: Whenyouwalkaroundorwhen...we'llsayatypicalshamanifthere'ssuchathing.Iknowthere'slotsofflavorswithshamans.Doyouseeeveryoneasanenergyfieldordoyouhavetogoinanalternatestate?

Alberto: No.Idon'twanttoseeeverybody'senergyfield.Youcanswitchitonandoff.

Dave: Youcanswitchitonandoff.

Alberto: Totally.Youknow,shamanismhasbecomeverypopulartodayandvery,verycommercialtoosoyougottobecarefulwhoyou...you'vegottointerviewyourshamanevenmorethanyouhavetointerviewyourdoctorsbecausethere'salotofshamanicmalpracticegoingontoo.Ifyoulearntoseethefieldnatureofreality,youcanswitchbackandforthbetweenyourseeingfromthefieldtotheparticlestate.

Dave: Wow.

Alberto: Icanlookatsomebody'senergyfieldandthentellwhotheirgrandmothersleptwith,notthatIreallywanttoknow,butIcantellthegenetichistoriesofthefamily,thepredispositiontoheartdiseaseandwherewesizedinthefieldandhowtocleartheinformationfromthefieldsothatmyclientormypatientdoesn'thavetolive,theydon'thavetohealit,bysomatizingit.

Dave: Whatdoesafieldlookliketoyou?Howdoyouperceiveit?Whatpartof...Isityoureyesthatseesitorissomeotherpart?Yeah,canwebepersonal?


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Alberto: No,itactually...rememberthatduringembryonicdevelopment,thatthenervoussystemisformedfromtheverysamecellsthat'smakeupyourskinsorightaboutWeek6,there'sthisprocesscalledinvaginationwheretheskinfoldsontoitselfandyougettheneuraltubemadefromskincells.Thisisanamazingsensorysystemwehaveinthebody.

Dave: Soyourskindoesit.

Alberto: It'syourskinthatdoesit...

Dave: Wow.

Alberto: ...thatregistersandthenittranslatesthatintoasignalinthevisualcortexofthebrainandthenitgeneratesanimage.

Dave: Wow.

Alberto: You'renotseeingthroughyoureyesatall.Youreyesaretrainedtoseetheobviousonly.

Dave: That'sfascinating.Noonehaseverexplainedittomethatwaywhichisamazing.I'mjustthinkingaboutit.Youpickupthesensorythingfromyourskin,youbringitin.Now,that'showyouperceiveit.now,ifyou'retogoinandsayedittheinformationfieldinapersonsothatthey'relesslikelytohaveadiseaseorsotheycandealwithatrauma,whateverthethingyou'reworkingonis,isityourskinthatdoesthattoo?Howdoyoudothat?

Alberto: No.Actually,youknow,I'mworkingonanewbook,Dave,soifIwanttoshowyoumynewbook,I'mnotgoingtosay,"Here,feeltheharddrivefrommylaptop,man.It'sreallycool."Becausethat'sabsurd.Youwanttolookattheprintoutonthescreen.Youneedthescreen.Youneedtheinterface.TheinterfacearewhatarecalledthechakrasintheHindutraditions.Somebodyaskedmeonetime,"Aren'tthechakrasHindu?Doshamanshavechakras?"Iasked,"Aren'tkidneysEuropean?DoAfricanshavekidney?"It'sapartofyourluminousanatomy.They'reuniversal.Achakraisactuallyproducedwhenyouhaveanervecomplexandanendocrineglandtogether.Theycreateddisturbanceinthefield.Thesearetwosinglingsystemsofthebody,yournervoussystemandyour


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hormonalsystem.Thisishowyouhavetointeractwiththefield,it'sthroughtheenergycenters,becausetheinformationinthefieldarestoredholographically.

Dave: Youuseyourchakrastoinfecttheotherperson.

Alberto: Oh,Iusemyclient'schakras.

Dave: Okay.Whatpartofyouisdoingtheworkonit?

Alberto: Myhands.Myintention,theintentiondirectedthroughthehand.Thenotionhereisthatyoucanupgradethequalityoftheinformationinthefieldbecauseifyouhaveheartdiseaseinyourfamily,it'snotstoredoveryourheartandyourfieldisstoredholographicallyinthefield.

Dave: Hologramsmeanthatit'sstoredeverywhere.Ineedthis.

Alberto: Everywhere.Everywhereinthefield.It'slikeyourDNA.Youknow,thetipofyourfingerhastheinstructionsforcreatingawholenewpersonsoyouhavetoupgradethequalityoftheinformationinthefieldandyoudothatbyattuningthepersontotheirgeography,towheretheylive,andtotheirdestiny,totheirfutureself.Thisis-

Dave: Andyoucanseethatwithyourskinaswell.

Alberto: Youcandothatbecauseinthefieldstate,you'renon-local.Intheparticlestatethatwe'rein,we'relivinginlocalspacetime.Whenyougointothefieldstate,rememberanelectroninthefieldstatecanbeeverywhere.Infact,itisintwoorthreeplacesatthesametime.Inourfieldstate,we'reinthepastandinthefutureaswell.It'snon-local.Thisiswhatmodernphysicstellsussoyoucanactuallytrackforwardonaperson'stimelineandfindadesiredfuturestateofhealthandanchorthat,collapsethefieldintothatstateandhavethatfuturestatereachbacklikeagianthandandpullthepersontowardsthatstateofhealthoryourself.That'swhatwewanttodobecausewewanttoageandtohealdifferentlythanourparentsdid.

Dave: Now...


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Alberto: I'lltellyouhow.Justgivemeasecond.I'lltellyouhowitworks.

Dave: Okay.Sure,sure.

Alberto: Becauseifyouwereashamanandyoulivedonthecoast,youhavetotakethefishermanthenextdaytowherethefishweregoingtobe,notwheretheyhadbeenthedaybefore.Ifyoulivedinthemountains,youhavetotakethehunterstowherethebuffalowheregoingtobetomorrowornextweek.Theshamanwastrackingintothefuturetofindwherethefishweregoingtobe.WhatIdoisItrackintothefutureandfindadesiredstatethathastobepermissibleeventhoughtitmaynotbeveryprobable,evenifthere'sa4%probability.Itrackitandtheacttofindinginmakesitevenmoreprobable.Itakethepersonthewherethefisharegoingtobe.Inthefieldstate,wecanalldothat.

Dave: Now,yousaywecanalldothatbutmostshamantraditionstalkabouttherebeingalineageandthere'sageneticcomponenttobeingashaman.

Alberto: No.Ittakesalotofworkandpractice.It'slikelearningthepiano.It'sgoodifyoucomewithalittlebitofagiftbutthenyou'vegottodothework.

Dave: Okay.Inyourunderstanding,thisissomethingthatprettymucheveryonecandowithenoughpracticeandlearningand-

Alberto: Ithinkthatwehavetodoittoday.Ithinkthatwehavetobecomeourownshamansandwehavetofindoutwhowe'rebecomingindividuallysowecangetthattoinformus.Otherwise,wedefaulttotheprogrammingthatwegotfromourfamilies,thegeneticandthepsychological.

Dave: Mostofthetime,ifyoulookatwhereyourfamilywas50or100yearsago,itprobablywasn'tsomewhereveryhappybecausewehadthisworldwars,famines.

Alberto: Totally.


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Dave: Ithink,there'salotoftraumathatyoudopickupthatweknowit'sinyourgenes.Likeifyourgrandparentswentthroughafamine,yourchanceoftype2diabetesissomuchhigherlikely.Thisisstuffistransmittedmulti-generationally.

Alberto: Totally.WehavetodofuturecausationnowsothatweknowthatifourfamilieswereinWorldWar2,thatwehavea50%higherriskofbecomingadiabetic.Now,that'sbackwardcausationsothat'sthepastinformingthepresent.Whatshamansaysyoucanhavethefutureinformthepresentaswellandthenyoucanselectadestinyforyourself,foryourvillage,ormaybeevenfortheplanetthanwhatyouarepre-programmedforwhichisreallynotthattaught.

Dave: That'sreallypowerfulandifyouassumethatit'sallwithgoodintentionslikeyoucandothis,doesitalsomeanthatsomeonewithbadintentionscouldtaketheprobabilitiesthatarelesslikelyandmakethemmorelikely,likethenegativeprobability.

Alberto: Totally.Rightnow,theoilcompaniesarebeingsuedinCaliforniafornotadvising...fordenyingtheclimatechangeriskthattheirownresearchindicateswasprobable.That'satthecollectivelevel.Attheindividuallevel,youhavetobemindfulofeverythoughtbecauseeverynegativethought,wheneveryougetangry,wheneveryouwishsomebodynotwell,thatbasicallybringsdownthequalityofyourownfield.Thisiswhycompassion,charity,kindnessissoimportant.That'sjustthefundamentalpartthenyoucanreallygetintoplayingwiththetechnologies.

Dave: Ifsomeonewho'sunfamiliarwiththeseteachingscomesacrossthisnowandsays,"Allright.Iwanttogetintothis."Howmuchofaninvestmentoftimeandenergydoesitreallytaketostartperceivingthefutureinadifferentway?

Alberto: Ittakesaboutthesameinvestmentoftimeandenergythatittakestobecomeagoodlover.Ithelpsifyou-

Dave: Fiveminutes?


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Alberto: Yeah.Thisisaproblemwiththeguything,youknow.Ittakesadedicationandacommitmentinyourlifetoreallybringoutthefinestofourhumancapabilitiesnotjustwhatwillmakeusalittlebitwealthierorgetusabetterhouseorbetter-lookingspousethatwethinkthatwedeservebutreallyacommitmenttoexplorehumancapabilities.Thisiswhattheexplorerdoesandtheexplorers,thetypicalPaleolithichuntergatherer,wewereexplorers.Now,mostofushavebeeneducatedtobecomefarmersandtoeatgrainandtoliveoncarbsandonsugarsowehavetodefythatupbringingandwehavetogetbackintotheexplorermentalitythatwasprevalentwhenwewerePaleolithichuntergatherers.Wehavetoapplyitinwardsnotjusttotrackingthegamebuttotrackingourcapabilities.

Dave: Intheshamanictrainingyou'vehad,IknowallthedifferentthingsI'vereadaboutshamanisthere'salwaysweirddiets.Youjustmentionedavoidingsugarandcarbsandallthatbecausethosearefarmerfoods.Whenyou'reteachingpeopletobemorepowerfulandall,youactuallytellthemtostopeatinggrains.

Alberto: Mm-hmm(affirmative).

Dave: Isthatatraditionallong-standingteachingoristhatsomethingthatyou'vecomeacross?

Alberto: Youknow,theshamanswouldwatchthepyramidbuildershaulingtherocksupthepyramidsandthepriestsayingtothem,"Ifyoubuildagoodpyramid,you'llberewardedintheafterlife."Themedicinepeoplewouldlaughandsay,"You'regoingtobuildwhatpyramidforwhen?"You'vegottodoitnow.Nowiswhenyouwanttobuildyourconsciousnessandthepersonalpowertohaveyourconsciousnessremainintacteveninthefaceofdeath,beyonddeath.Becauseinthereligioustraditions,we'retoldthatwehaveinfinitesoulthatwillliveforeversoyoucandealwiththatlater.Ashamansayyouhavethepossibilityforinfinityandimmortalitybutyouhavetoaccumulatetheconsciousnessandenergyandpersonalpower.

Todothat,wehavetohealourselves.Webeginwith...adietisessential.Avoidthewhitemenace.Anythingthat'swhite,don'titeat.


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Whitesugar,whitebread,processedwheat,stayawayfromthegrains,anddetoxify.We'vegottobeginbydetoxifying.

Dave: Thereissomebloggerssomewhere.Idon'tevenknowwhatwebsiteitwaswhojustwrotesomethingabouthowthebodynaturallydetoxesitselfandthere'snothingyoucandoaboutitsostopworryingabouttoxins.Whatdoyousaytothingslikethat?

Alberto: Irememberbeing9and10yearsoldwhenthethermometerbroke,playingwiththemercury.Rememberdoingthat?Yeah?Howitturnedyourtongueblackifyougotagoodtongue?ItwasbadandmercuryfillingsandDDT.Thebodydetoxifyitselfbutitdetoxifiesitselfthroughtheliverandtheskinprimarily.Mostofthedetoxthatpeopledoarethey'redetoxingthefilterswhichweneedtodo.Theshamanisinterestedindetoxingthebrain,insidethecell,detoxifyingthegarbagethataccumulatesinsidethecellandthatinterfereswithmitochondrialfunction.Whenyoucandetoxthecellandgetthatgarbageoutnotthroughyourliverandkidneysthenyoucanhaveanewbrainthathasanoriginalthought.Itisessentialthatwedetoxifybecausetoxinsarestoredinthelong-livedmoleculesinthebody.Thelong-livedmoleculesarefatandthebrainis70%fatsoguesswhereallthatchildhoodmercuryisgoing.

Dave: Yeah.IdefinitelynoticedthatmythinkingisnotasclearwhenI'vehadtoxinsandthatisoneofthosethingswhere,"They'renotkillingsoit'sfine,"butitturnsoutthat,atleast,inmyexperiencebetweenfullyaliveandawakeandfullydeadisnotablackandwhitestate.There'saspectrumandthenthepresenceofthosetoxinsseemstoinhibitthemoreunusualstatesbuttheoneswere,youknow,goodthingshappen.Let'stalkaboutfightorflightresponse.ThisissomethingthatBulletprooflistenersarefamiliarwithbutyouhaveashamanicperspectiveonthefightorflightresponse.Helpmeunderstandthehistoricalorthetraditionalancestralperspectiveonthispartofournervoussystems.Howdoesthatworkinyourteaching?

Alberto: Wedidn'tdiscoverthefightorflightresponseintheWest.Wenameditbuteverybody'srecognizedit.Inthejungle,theycallitbringingthejaguardownfromthetree.I'dheardthis,youknow,andIhadasked,


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"Whydoyouwanttobringthejaguardown?Leaveitupinthetree."Theysay,"No,thejaguarissupposedtobedowninthelowerbranchesrelaxingdeeplywhichiswhatthejaguarissupposedtodo,notupthetopbranchwhichisspooked.Ifyoutrytobringhimdown,it'llgopshew."Idiscoveredtheyweretalkingaboutthefightorflightresponsethathasbeenturnedonformostofussincebirthbecausemanyofuswerebornintofamiliesthatwerenotsafeincludingmyself.

Thestresshormoneswhicharecortisolandadrenaline,theygorightthroughtheplacentabarrierandtheycreateneuralnetworks.Ifyourmotherwasnotsurethatshecouldrelyonhermantolookafterher,youwerebornwithneuralnetworksthatpredisposedyounottotrustmenortotrustlife.Manyofus,mostofuswerebornwithafightorflightswitchedon.Notonlythembutgovernmentandcorporationsmakealotofmoneybykeepingpeopleinfear.There'sadust,youknow,whatgovernmentsdo.Toresetfightorflight,whenyou...we'retheonlyorganism,theonlycreatureinthekingdomthatcannotresethisfightorflightsystem.Everyotheranimalcanbesetexcepthumans.

Dave: Whatdoyoumeanbyresetit?

Alberto: I'lltellyouastory.IwasinasafariinAfricaandwewereonanopensafaricarbythewaterhole.InAfrica,everythinghappensbythewaterhole.Therewasthisherdofgazellethatweregrazingnearthewaterholeandthisbabywasstrayingbehindtheherd.There'sthischeetahstalkingitandit'sinthetallgrass.Thecheetahisgettingclosertothebabyandwe'regoing,youknow,we'retryingtocommunicatetelepathicallywiththisandsuddenlythebabyseesitanddartsoffrunning.Itgetstothewaterhole,hesitatesforamomentandisrunningoverthewaterandacrocodileshootsofffromtheothersideofthewaterholelikeatorpedo.Itgetsouttotheothersideofthewaterhole.Thecrocbacksoffandthecheetahgivesup.It'stoomuchtrouble.Thesecheetahsaresprinters.They'renotlong-distancerunners.

Thelittlebabylooksaroundandseesthatit'ssafeandthenaquiverbeginstotheverytipofitsnoseanditgoesrightthroughitsentirebody.He'squiveringandshakingandthenitgoesbacktograzingasifnothinghashappened.Itresetitsfightorflightsystem.Meanwhile,I


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needadrink.Backatcampandtwomartinislater,Istillwasgettingsweatyhands,thetypicalfightorflightresponse,youknow,rapidheartrate,becausewelosetheabilitytoresetfightorflightatabouttheageofsixweeks.Afterthat,ourbrainsaretoocomplex.Theexperimentednaturethatisconductingwithhumansisforaverycomplexbrain.Ourbrainsaresocomplexthatwecannotresetfightorflight.Onlythreethingswilldoit.OneofthemisDHA,omega-3fattyacids,theywillhelptoresetfightorflightatclinicaldoses,notamaintenancedoses.

Dave: Itypicallyusekrilloilforthat.Doyouhaveapreferenceforkrillversus...

Alberto: It'sfabulous.

Dave: ...versusregularfish?

Alberto: Yeah.Krilloilisthebestbecauseitfeedsthemitochondriatoo.

Dave: Gotit.

Alberto: Theotherthingisshamanictechniquesforresettingfightorflight.Beforeashamandoeshealingonanybody,they'llhelptomaketheirworldsafeagain,helpthemresettheirfightorflightenergeticallybytweakingthearchitectureofthefield.Thethirdthingisgreatsex.Ifyoucangetallthreeofthosetogetherinonekit,fantastic.

Dave: Sofishoillubricant,nah,that'snotgoingtowork.

Alberto: It'snotgoingtowork,yeah.No,it'ssmellytoo.

Dave: Right,right.

Alberto: Thisistheproblem,yousee.Thefightorflightproducesthestresshormonesandyoucannowproducethestresshormonesandtheblisshormonesinthesamelab.Yourfightorflightisturnedon.Youcannotbemethylatingserotonintocreatepsilocybinwhichisamethylateofserotonin.Thosewonderfulmatchofmushroomwehadincollege,rememberwhenyoucouldseethemusicandayahuascaisaserotoninthat'smethylated.It'sDMT,dimethyltryptamine.Youcannotdoboth.In


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thesamelab,youcannotproducethestresschemicalsandtheblisschemicals.

Dave: Yourbodyproducesatleastserotoninbutitdoesn'tmethylatesserotoninonboardaswell.

Alberto: Oh,yeah.

Dave: Okay.Gotit.

Alberto: Itmethylatesserotoninintomelatonin.

Dave: Ofcourse,ofcourse.Yeah,yeah.

Alberto: That'swhatputsyoutosleepatnight.

Dave: Thankyouforthatpathway,right.

Alberto: Yeah.Ifyoutweakmelatoninalittlebitmore,you'vegotserotoninasatryptamine,as5-HT.Ifyoutweakit,you'llgetmelatonin.Ifyoutweakalittlebitmore,yougetdimethyltryptamine.

Dave: DMT.

Alberto: DMT.

Dave: TheingredientinAyahausca.

Alberto: Thenyou'reabletocreatepsychosomatichealth.You'reabletodreamyourworldintobeing,you'reabletocraftanewdestiny.Ifyoustillcarrystonesuptheslopetobuildapyramid,you'renotabletodothis.Ourculturewantsustobenonstopproductivebyworkingharder.Whatwediscoverwhenweupgradethebrainisthatyoucanbeevenmoreproductiveandcreativebyhavinghardworkhappenaroundyouwithoutyoubeingthedoerallthetime.

Dave: It'sapowerfulstoryanditsoundsalmosttoogoodtobetrue.HowmayIgetotherpeopledothework?It'snotevenaboutgettingotherpeopletodothework.


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Alberto: It'sabouthavingithappening.

Dave: Yeah.It'saloteasiernowthaniteverhasbeen.Youcanautomatethings.I'mthinkingaboutmyfriend,AriMeisel,hasabookcalledLessDoingandawebsiteaboutthat.Thiswholethingislikehowdoyougetstuffoffyourplatewithouthurryingotherpeople.WhatIhadn'trealizedinthecourseofbuildingBulletproof...Look,I'mprettymotivatedifit'shelpingotherpeople.IhavetwoexecutivesnowwhohelpstackupmyschedulelikeaRubik'sCube.

Alberto: Absolutely.

Dave: Thereareallimportantthings.I'mtalkingtothosepeople.I'mdoingthingsthatIbelievematterbutattheendoftheday,I'mlike,"Man,Ididn'tstopforfiveminutes."

Alberto: Yeah,butthat'sokaybecausewhenyoudo,whenyouupgradeyourbrainisyougetoutofyourownway.

Dave: That'sverytrue.

Alberto: Whenyougetoutofyourownway,youbecomesomuchmorepowerfulinwhatyoudo.90%ofourstruggleiswithourselves.

Dave: It'strue.There'ssomethingthathappenswhenyou'redoingnothinginthebrain.I'mwonderingifthere'sashamanicpointofviewonthat.Inthewest,wecallitdefaultmodeorpassivemode.IfindthatifIscheduleahalfhouroranhourofdoingnothingonmycalendar,itdoesn'tmeandoingFacebook,youknow.Itmeansjustlike,Ithink,I'mgoingtodosomethingbutnothingthat'sadistractingthing.That'swhenallthestuffpercolatesandthat'swherethecreativityintuitioncomefrom.

Alberto: Creativityhappensatthatpoint,yeah.

Dave: What'stheshamanicperspectiveonthat?Isthereone?

Alberto: Theartformastodonothingwhileyou'reonFacebookandansweringe-mailsandhavinganinterviewlikethisone,canyoustillbedoingnothingandbeingplayfulwithit?


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Dave: Gotit.Yeah,okay.

Alberto: Yourdoingbecomesinfusedwithahighqualityofplayfulnessandcreativity.

Dave: Thedoingmayberequireslessfocussothatyouhavetherestofthebrain-

Alberto: Thenyouhirepeoplethatcanhelpyouinsteadofpeoplethatyouneedtohelp.Iusedtohirepeopleforallthewrongreasonstohelpthemanditwasmyownpathologythatwasplayingitselfoutinmyorganization.Peoplelookinmycalendarandtheysay,"Wow,you'resobusy.You'retravelingallthetime."Igo,"I'mnotbusy."Busyisastateofmind.

Dave: It'sverytrue.IamdoingalotbutIdon'tfeelparticularlystressedevenonthesereallylongdays.Infact,someone,Ithink,itwasareporter,Ithink,fromtheNewYorkTimeswhointerviewedmeduringtheBulletproofConferenceabouttwo,threeweeksago.ThisisonethosethingswherewehadtwodaysofexecutivecoachtrainingforaBulletproofcoachingandthenthreedayswhere1,300people,everyonewantstotalkwithmeandeveryminuteisbacktoback.Mykidswerethere.AssoonasI'mdone,Igoandplaywiththekidslikeyoudon'tevengetarestafterthat.I'msleepingaboutfivehoursatnight.Shesaid,"Daveseemedalittlejittery."

Alberto: It'snotthecoffee.

Dave: I'mlike,"Here'salittle,onemilligramofnicotine,"andIhadacoffeebutactuallyIlookbackonthatandIwasn'tfeelingjitteryatall.IwasactuallyfeelingIwasinthestateofflow.Iwasrelaxed.Iwasjustgoingfromplacetoplacebut...yeah.

Alberto: Yousee,thisisthefundamentalnatureofrealitybecausepeoplewillprojectontoyoutheirownlifeperspective.TheyseeyouarefeelingjitterywhichmeansthatI'mjitterywithyouand...

Dave: Thatcouldbeit.


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Alberto: ...thenwetendtoownitandsay,"Oh,maybeIamfeelingjittery."Whenyouupgradethebrainthroughtheproductsthatyouofferpeopleandthroughthe-

Dave: Yeah,there'slotsoftypings.

Alberto: Thetechniquesthatweworkwith,youknow,thatwasjustonaconference,alsooneofourconferencesforourshamantraining.

Dave: ThisistheFourWinds?

Alberto: ItwasaFourWindsconference.WehadtheGreyBritainasakeynotespeaker,wonderfulconference.WhatIdoisItrainwesternshamanssopeoplethatareskilledintheancientenergymedicinepracticesandconversantwithcuttingedgeneuralsciencebecauseotherwiseyouendupjustshakingrattlesandfeathersandtryingtolooklikeanIndian.Whattheshamandid,hewasinthecuttingedgeoftheknown,betweentheknownandtheunknownandthisiswhereyou'redoing.Tome,you'reacontemporaryshaman,youknow.You'reworkingwiththecuttingedgeofscienceandusingittocreatehealthandintelligence.

Dave: I'vetakenoneofthething,youhavefiveclasses,anyofthefourwindsbut,Ithink,there'safifthclassafterthat,right?

Alberto: Yeah.

Dave: I'vetakenoneofthoseandcertainlythere'sallsortsofknowledgeandexperiencethatIdon'thavebutit'sverypowerful.WhenItookit,therewere,let'ssay,itwasalmostallwesternersintheclassfromaroundtheworldreallybutthepeoplehaveareallyprofoundexperiencesandconnectedtoasenseofawarenessthatprobablyisn'ttypical.

Alberto: We'llbeintroducingthemtotheirfieldnaturesoyousaidaparticlenatureandwehadtochangethebiochemistryandtheparticleshereandweknowthepathwaystodetoxifythebrainbutthenwhenyouopenupthefield,thefieldstate,see,thisthedebatethatwashappeningattheturnofthecentury100yearsago.Istheelectronaparticleorisawave?Ifyoushootitthroughaplateofsteelwithoneholeinit,it'llgothroughitsoit'saparticle.Youputthreeholesinit,itgoestoallthree


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atthesametimesoit'sactinglikeanoceanwave.Theassumptionwasithadtobeoneortheotherandtheyunderstoodthatitwasboth.

ThenHeisenbergcamealongandsaid,"Youknow,it'sreallynotaparticleuntilyoulookforit.Whereveryoulookforit,iswhereyou'regoingtofindit."Ifyouapplythattous,wehaveaparticlestatewhichishereandthenafieldstatewhichiseverywhere.Wearesomeonebecausewe'resomebodybecausewe'resomewhere.Wecanshifttoourawarenessintoour...youknow,whenIwasintheAmazonandworkingwithsomeofthepsychoactiveplants,youhaveanexperienceofbeingeverywhereandeverything,butyouwanttobeabletoswitchbetweenthesetwostatesknowingthatyou'rebothandthatyouarewhereyouchooseto...youarethehealthyouchoosetomanifest.Youarethelifethatyouchoosetomanifest.Thisissimplyareflectionofaninternalarchitecture,ofanenergeticarchitecture,whattheshamanscallaninnermapthatisthenconfirmedbyreality.

Dave: Thiscouldexplainwhy...orsomethinglikeworryissotoxicbecause,let'ssay,ifyoulookforsomething,forthepartyou'llfindit.Whenyou'reworrying,you'relookingforallthebadstuff.

Alberto: Yeah.

Dave: Howwouldsomeonelisteninghasaproblemwithworryoranxiety-

Alberto: Orfear.

Dave: Orfear,yeah.

Alberto: Wheneveryourfearisgoingtoshowupinyourlife...

Dave: Exactly.

Alberto: ...thenitbitesyouinthebutt.

Dave: Howdoweturnthat...Howdoyouturnthatoff?What'stheshamanicpathtodoingthat?

Alberto: You'vegottoupgradethebrain.That'snumberone.


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Dave: Whichisabiochemicalthingorameditationthing?

Alberto: It'sabiochemicalorhealthewoundwithplants.

Dave: Allright.Okay.

Alberto: Yeah,andchemistry.Shamanswerethefirstbiochemistandneuroscientist.

Dave: It'strue.It'sallaboutwhat'sbubblinginthepot,right?

Alberto: Yeah,totally.

Dave: Okay.Talkmoreaboutupgradeinthebrain.ItisthisIloveso.

Alberto: Youknow,thethingisthat100yearsago,wedidn'thavetodealwithdetoxing.Everything100yearsagoisfreerange,wasgrass-fed,andshamansdonothavetodealwiththebodiesthatwehavetodaywhicharetoxicwastedumpssowehavetodetox.Inmylastbook,inOneSpiritMedicine,I'vegotareallyeffectiveone-weekcleanseprogramthatdetoxifiesthebrainandtheinsideofthecellsandmitochondria.

Dave: Beautiful.

Alberto: ThisisreallyimportantandthenyougottoupgradethebrainwiththeMCTs,withtherightfoods,theneuronutrients,thesuperfoodsthataredesignedtoupgradethebrain.Thenyougottoswitchofffightorflightsoyoucanbegintoproducetheblissmoleculesandthenyougottoenjoytheride.

Dave: Doyoueverplayaroundwithheartratevariability?

Alberto: Yeah,yeah.

Dave: Peoplewhoarelong-timeBulletprooflistenersnowareprobablygoing,"Okay,adetox.Okay.There'svalueinthat."

Alberto: Sure.


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Dave: Youtalkedaboutitjustnowandinyourworkandcertainlythat'sabigpartoftheBulletproofdiet.It'slikeeatfoodsthatarelesstoxicsoyoucontrolwhatgoesin.

Alberto: Absolutely,yeah.

Dave: Thencertainlythere'ssomecompoundsIusedfordetoxingsomecompounds.Ithink,somesimilarity-

Alberto: Likethecurcumin,thesulforaphane,thetransferential.Thesearemedicines.They'renotfoods.They'remedicines,yeah.

Dave: No,they'refoodsfromaregulatoryperspectivebecauseiftheyaremedicines,theywouldcostmillionsofdollars.

Alberto: Absolutely.Fromtheshamanicperspective,theyaresacred.They'resacredfood.

Dave: Thereyougo.

Alberto: They'resacredfood,yeah.

Dave: Whenthingsbecomemedicine,youhavetoaddchemicalsthataretoxinstothe...andtripletheprice.

Alberto: Youknow,it'sfunny.Yeah,becausethe...Theamazingthingtomeisthatthepharmaceuticalcompanies,themostwidelytestedmedicationintheplanetisplacebo.

Dave: Whichoneisthat?

Alberto: Theplacebobecause-

Dave: Oh,theplaceboIthoughtyoumeantoneofthewordsthatareassigned.

Alberto: Everymedicineistestedagainsttheplaceboandthe-

Dave: Placebosareremarkablyeffective.


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Alberto: It'sremarkablyeffective.Whatifyoucouldtapintothosesamepathways?Theplaceboworksevenwhenyouknowthatyouaretakingaplacebo.Youtelltheperson,"I'mgivingyouaplacebo,"itstillworks.

Dave: Wow.

Alberto: Theresearchistheeffort.Whatifwecouldtapintothesemechanismssothatweget92%oftheeffectivenessofViagrawithouthavingtotakethepill?

Dave: Now,here'saweirdquestionforyouandthishastodowiththeshamanicviewofthefield.There'sastudy,andIwanttosayitwasOxfordorCambridge,butdon'tquotemeoneitherone.Whattheydidistheytooksomecollegestudentsandtheysaid,"We'regoingtotestthestrange,greendrinkonyou."There'sbrightgreen,slimydrink.Theydidn'ttellthembuttheyputanimmunosuppressantinit,sosomethingthatsuppressesimmunefunctionintothedrink.Thenthecollegestudentsdrinkthedrinkandtheymeasuretheirimmunefunctions.

Sureenough,itdroppedbecauseofthedrugsthatwereinit.Thentheyhaven'tcomebacktwoweekslater.Theysaidthatwe'regoingtotastetestthedrinkagain.Thistime,there'snoimmunosuppressantinit.Peopledrinkthedrinkandtheyhadimmunosuppressionafterthedrink.Itwasn'taconsciousplacebobecausetheywerenevertoldeitherwayithadanythingtodowithimmunesystem.Theythoughtitwasaflavortestofthedrink.

Alberto: IfyouweretoaskthistoanAmazonshaman,theywouldsaytoyou,"What'swrongwithyou?Can'tyouseethattheintelligenceofthebodyknew?"Ifyoudidn'tknowconsciouslybutunconsciously,everycellinyourbodyknewyouweretakingthesamestimulus,thesameimmunesuppressant.We'venoticedthatwithpeoplewhenwegointotheAmazononsomeofourexpeditionsbecausewestilldosomeoftheanthropologicalwork.IfyouwalkpassedintheareawhereayearbeforepeoplesawjaguartracksandIpointedthemoutontheground,ifthey'rewalkingpastthatareaagain,theirheartrategoesup.

Dave: Wow.


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Alberto: Becauseabodyrecognizes.

Dave: Itrecognizedthreats.

Alberto: Totally.Thisisthesamephenomena.

Dave: Thestudywasinterestingbecausethey'resayingthisisthefirsteverevidenceofapotentialcellularplaceboeffectwhichisalsoyoucouldsaybodilywisdom,right?IlovetheAmazon-

Alberto: It'sthebodywisdom,yeah.

Dave: Thebodyknows.

Alberto: Ifyoucanprimethebodyforextraordinaryhealthassociatingcertainstateswiththethingsthatareactuallygoodforyou.Now,thefieldremembersthis.It'snotatthelevelofcellularlevel.It'satthelevelofthefieldbecausethefieldlearnsinstantaneously.Thebodylearnsslowlybutthefieldinteractswithbiophotonswiththeenvironment.Thecommunicationmechanismofthefieldisthroughyourmicrobiome,throughyourgutfloraandtheycommunicationwitheachotherthroughbiophotonswithlight.Thefieldismadeoflightsoit'sanelectromagneticfieldwhosecommunicationwiththeenvironmentiswithlight.Thelearningisinstantaneous.

Dave: Wow.

Alberto: Ifyoufeelthisclearer,ifyoucanremovetheimprintsforthegeneticconditionsthatruninyourfamilyandforthestressthatreallymakesusyoufeelgrayandturbulentthenyoucandownloadthecodesforanewhumanthatarecomingtotheearthrightnowfromthesuninthisformofplasmastormsthatarehittingtheearthrightnowatthetimethattheearthshieldsaretheweakestthattheyhavebeenin20,000years.

Dave: Wow.HowdoIconvertthatintoan...that'shelpyou-

Alberto: Howdoyouputthisintoadrink?


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Dave: Yeah.WhatdoIdoaboutthat?Putyourselfintheshoesofsomeonelisteningtothisgoing,"Allright."

Alberto: Whenyoutakealunchbreak,yougophotosynthesize.We'reallVitaminDdeficientrightnow.EverybodylisteningtousshouldbeonVitaminD3supplements,everyone.Withoutanexceptionandit'sbecause...butevenmorethantheVitaminD,you'vegottobeinthesuntogettheinformationbecauseremembersunlightisnotonlyVitaminD,it'snotonlytriggeringtheproduction,it'sinformationtofillthisinformation.Weusedtothinkoffoodascalories,nowwethinkoffoodasinformation.Weusedtothinkofenergyascalories,evenATPproductioninmitochondria.It'sinformationandthehigherthequalityoftheinformation,thelesseffortthatitrequires,thelessenergythatitrequires.Whenyougohavelunch,havelunchoutside.

Dave: Justtogetsomeofthesun.

Alberto: Yeah,anddon'tputonsunscreen.Thereasonwegetmalignantmelanomaisbecausewe'retoxic.Ifyou'dlookattheaboriginesandtheAfricans,they'renotgettingmalignantmelanoma.They'renottoxic.

Dave: IcansaythatIhaveshirtifI'mgettingsunburn.That'smytypicalsunscreen,ashirtandahat.

Alberto: Yeah,absolutely.

Dave: Thisisamazingadvice.Ithink,wehavetimeforonemorequestionbeforewegettotheendoftheshow.You'retalkingabouthealingthedeathwithinus.Whatdoesthatmean?

Alberto: Youknow,onetimewehadoneofourteachers.I'vementionedearlierthatItrainmodernshamansandourlistenerswhowouldliketoknowmoreaboutthiscangotoourwebsite,thefourwinds.com.OneofourteacherswasattheAmazonwithmeandoneofourtrainersandshehadchronicconditionsandherfamily.Themedicinewomanlooksatherandsays,"Youknow,deathisstalkingyouinthesamewaythatitstalkedyourmotherandyourgrandmother,"whohadbothdiedfrom


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breastcancer."Wecanmakeyouinvisibletothedeaththat'sstalkingyou."

Thenshewentbacktoherdoctorandherdoctorsaidtoher,"Youknow,you'vegotthisgeneticpredispositionsthatruninyourfamilyandyougotafairlyhighchanceofhavingabreastconditionthat'sdeadlyandwebetterdoapreventivemastectomy."Whichonewouldyourathergoto?Theshamaninthejunglesay,"Wecanchange,wecanmakeyouinvisibletothedeaththatstalkedyou.Wecanhealyou."Yourdoctorissaying,"Let'sjustcutyourbreastoutbecauseyoucan'tchangethis."

Theyhaveaveryanimisticperspectiveandwehaveaveryrational,logicalgeneticprescriptionof,buttheycanworkwiththeother.Theycaninfluencethefieldtothepointthatyoucanselectadifferentdestinywhichyoudonotdiefrombreastcancerorfromabraintumor.

Dave: Imean,youhavetoaskthequestionthough.Youcanbecertainthatyouhavenobreastsoyouwon'thavebreastcancer.Youmightjusthavecancersomewhereelsebutthat'sadifferentdiscussion.

Alberto: Sure.

Dave: There'snowaytoknowwhethertheworktheshamandidlikedidyouhiretherightshaman.Dotheshamanhaveenoughpower?

Alberto: Itisthesamewithdoctors.Yougottobecarefulwhoyougoto.Myearlyresearchwasfundedbyabigpharmaceutical,Swisspharmaceuticalcompany.Theywantedtofindthenewbreakthrough,heartdrugoracancerdrugordementiadrug,Alzheimer'sdrugandtheyfundedmeforthreemonthswhenIwasayoungmedicalanthropologistbecauseIwasoneofthefewpeopleworkingintheAmazonatthattime.Therewasalotofwar.

Dave: Thatwasalongtimeago,yeah.

Alberto: Yeah,30yearsago,almost40yearsago.After3monthsofgoingintobackwatervillages,andIremembergoingtovillagesthatkidswouldcomeuptomeandtheywoulddropmyhandtoseeifthewhitedirtwouldruboff.They'dneverseenalight-skinnedpersonbefore.


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Dave: Wow.

Alberto: Icamebackempty-handedandtheythoughtIwasholdingoutonthem.Theysaid,"Look,youcanbecomefamous.Youcanbecomerich."Isaidtothem,"Look,everywherethatIwent,therewasnocancer.TherewasnoAlzheimer's.Therewasnoheartdisease."Itdoesn'texistbecausethesearetheillnessesofcivilization.Thewaytopreventtheillnessesofcivilizationistolivealongandhealthylife.Wecandothat.

Dave: Ilovethat.Youpickedupsomethingelsewhenyouweredownthere.Youpickedupsomemassiveparasites.Ithink,youhadallkindsofhepatitisandotherthingslikethat.

Alberto: Idid,yeah.

Dave: Tellmeaboutyourstorybecauseitwasyourlastbook,thelasttimeyoucameontheshow.Noteveryonelisteninghasheardthatepisode.Imean,youwerejustaboutgoingtodiefromalltheworldlywormsand-

Alberto: Yeah,IgotadiagnosisIneverheardofbefore.Icalledmydoctorsandtheysaid,"Youshouldbedead."

Dave: There'sanICDcodeforthat.

Alberto: You'reright.There'sgottobe.Youknow,thejungle,theAmazonisverycleanbutgettingintotheAmazon,youhavetogothroughthefurthersouthpostofthewhitemancivilizationwhicharefilthybecausewe'retheonlypeoplethat,youknow,thatpolluteourownnestsoyouhavetogothroughmalaria-ridden,parasiteinfectedareastogettothepristinejungle.I'vebeeninAfrica.I'vebeeninAsia,inthejungles.IhadbeenintheAmazonandtheCaribbeanandIhavepickedup5kindsofhepatitisand8otherkindsofparasitesandwormsandtheywereinmyliver,myheart,andmybrainandmyorganswerecollapsing.Iwastoldtogogetalivertransplant.

Dave: Thiswasveryrecently.

Alberto: Threeyearsago.Idecidedtogrowanewbodyinstead.


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Dave: That'saradicalact.

Alberto: It'sprettyradical,yeah,but,youknow,Ihadnootherchoice.Eitherthatorgofortheterminaldiagnosis.Ididthewesternmedsbecausethewesternmedsarereallygoodatkillingthingsbutnotonrebuildingorgans.Idiscoveredthateveryorganproducesstemcellsandifwecanswitchonthestemcellproductioninthebrain...WeknowBDNFdoesit,forexample,neuralstemcells.Ihadabrainthatwasfullofholes.WhenIkilledthewormsinmybrain,Ihadtostillgetthemoutthroughthebloodbrainbarrier.Ihaveanewliver,anewheart,andanewbrainnow.

Dave: Thishasbeenmedicallyconfirmed.

Alberto: Ithasbeenmedicallyconfirmedwithbiopsies.Ididn'tdoabrainbiopsyobviouslybecausethat'sveryimpractical.ThewaythatItestitifIwasbackornot,Ihadtwowaysofdoingmyownself-diagnosisbecauseIlovetoplayscrabblewithmywifeandmyscrabblescores...I'mprettygood.Iwritebooks.Iknowwords.It's350to400usuallyandinmyworst,itwas60to80points,youknow.Icouldnotconnectwordstogether.Then,ofcourse,Ididthemedicalconfirmations.WhenIcompletedmyownshamanicrecoverybecausethroughenergymedicine,Iwasabletoswitchonthispassword-protectedregionsinourDNAthatknowhowtogrowanewbody.

Weknowscientificallythatwecangrowabodybecausewedid.Wegrew10fingersand10toesandtheseridgesaresilenced.WeknowthatwecanhackintoourDNA,intothispassword-protectedregionstoturnontheproductionofstemcellsineveryorganinourbodyandgrowanewbodythatagesandhealsanddiesdifferentlyandthat'swhatIdid.

Dave: Okay.That'spowerfulstuffandpeoplecanreadaboutthisandthenameofthatbookagain.

Alberto: OneSpiritMedicine,OneSpiritMedicine.


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Dave: OneSpiritMedicine.Weweretalkingaboutthatlastnightandit'sprofoundandyoulookthepictureofhealth.YouactuallylookhealthiernowthanyoudidwhenIdidyourtrainingabout5yearsago.

Alberto: Yeah,becauseIdidn'tknowIwassickthenuntilIcollapsed.

Dave: Yeah,yourenergywaslowerandnowyou'reglowing.It'samazing.

Alberto: It'sthecoffee.It'stheBulletproofcoffee.OneSpiritMedicine,OneSpiritMedicineisbasedonthenotionthatthere'soneillnessonlyandonecureandthisisit.It'sonespirit.

Dave: It'sremarkablestuffandit'satestamenttowhatthemindcandoandthespiritcandooverthebody.Iabsolutelybelievethatthere'salottherethatpeoplehaveforgotten.

Alberto: Yeah.It'stimetoremember.

Dave: Itistimetoremember.Now,I'veaskedyouonequestion,thefinalquestionoftheinterviewtwicenowbecauseyou'vebeenonBulletproofRadioalreadysoIdon'twanttoaskyouthesamequestionoverandoverbecauseI'dprobablygetdifferentanswers.

Alberto: Wesaidtheonethatifsomebodysayswhatcansaytosomeonein2minutes,whatcanwegivetothe...

Dave: Itwasthe3mostimportantthingsthatyoutellsomeonewhowanttoperformbetterbutlet'snotenterthatoneagain.Instead,Iwantedtoaskyouinasimilarveinbutasashamaninyourshamanictraining,whatarethethreemostimportantthingsyoulearned?

Alberto: Thethreemostimportantthings.

Dave: Thethingsyoulearnedinyourentireshamanictraining.

Alberto: Yeah.Thefirstoneisthatyoushouldhaveonlyonemostimportantthing.Threeistoomany.

Dave: That'sagreatanswer.Okay,withtheonemost...


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Alberto: I'lldividethatintothreeparts.

Dave: Thereyougo.

Alberto: Thefirstoneisthatthere'sanoldBuddhistsayingthatbegins,letmerespectfullyremindyou,lifeanddeatharetheutmostimportance.Opportunitiescomeandgoquickly.Donotsquanderyourlife.Awaken.Awaken.Becomeconscious.Becomecreatures.Wecameherenot...myteacherwouldsaytome.Wedidn'tcomeheretogrowcornonly.Wecameheretogrowgods,tobecomegods.Thisisthegrandexperiment.Dedicateyourselftoyourgrandlifeexperiment.Don'tpostponeit.That'swhatIdecidedtodowithmyownlife.

Thesecondistopracticetruthand,youknow,wetellsomanylittleliesallthetime,convenientlies.Practiceimpeccabletruthandnolongerlookforthetruthbutcreatetruthwhereveryouare,whereveryougo.Youpracticetruth.Ifyoupracticetruthimpeccablyenoughtheneverythingyousaybecomestrueandthat'showyoudreamtheworldintobeing.Youparticipateincreation.Thethirdisdon'ttakeanythingthatanybodysaystooseriously.Discoveritforyourself.

Dave: Ilikeit.

Alberto: It'sanexperimentwithNisequalto1sogoforit.Don'twaitforittomakemainstreammedicineorscience.WearetheexperimentofNisequalto1.

Dave: Alberto,thanksforbeingaguest.Thanksforcomingtotheislandandthanksforbeingoneofmyteachers.Ialwayslearnamazingthingswhenwegetachancetotalk.

Alberto: Thankyou.GreattobewithyouandIloveyourproductsandIusethemregularly.Ithink,youarethecuttingedgeoftheancientwisdomandthefinestofthenewscience.

Dave: That'sahugecomplimentforme.Ireallyappreciateit.Wherecanpeoplefindthatmore?Wehavethefourwinds.com.


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Alberto: Thefourwinds.comandifyougotothefourwinds.com,youcandownloadtheHackintheHumanBiofieldarticlethatgivesyouthetranslationoftheshamanictechniquesandsupplementsthatyoucanusetoupgradethequalityofyourenergyfield.

Dave: Ifyou'relisteningtothisandyouthinkthat'squalityofenergyfieldthatsoundslike,youknow,whatever,thisdoesn'tsoundreal.Here'sthedeal.Youcanfeelhowgoodyoufeelordon'tfeel.That'swhatwe'retalkingabouthere.Eitheryouhaveenergytoday,youdon'thaveenergytoday.

Alberto: Everythingisenergy.

Dave: Youcanfeelthedifferencewhetherornotyouwanttocallitonethingoranother,thestuffthatAlbertoistalkingaboutisarealthingandit'strainable,it'steachable,andit'smodifiablebywhatyouputinyourbody.That'smyexperienceoftheworldanyway.

Alberto: Absolutely.

Dave: Now,there'shundredsofthousandsofpeopledoingBulletproofcoffee.Ithink,theyfeelsomethingtooandthat'sjustasmallthingcomparedtothewholeuniversalpossibilitiesforthatbuttheideathatyou'dhavenocontrolmakesnosense.Imean,thereisnosenseofvibrancyinyourbodyalsomakesnosense.Atleast,ifyou'repayingattention.

Alberto: Yeah.Thesooneryougetacquaintedwithyourfieldstate,thebetterbecauseyou'regoingtolearnhowtoworkwithinitattheendofyourlifeanywaysowhywait?

Dave: Ilikethatperspective.Thanksagain,Alberto.

Alberto: Thankyou,Dave.

Dave: Ifyouliketoday'sepisode,gooutthereandpickupAlberto'slatestbookwhichIhaverighthere,AShaman'sMiraculousToolsforHealingorOneSpiritMedicineoroneoftheotheronesandlearnalittlebitaboutsomethingthatmaybeisabitlesswesternbutisabsolutelytightintoyourbiohackingandtightintohumanperformancebecauseItellyou,


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theshamansandtheancientBuddhistandpeoplespentthousandsofyearsstudyingtheirbrainswithorwithoutthemodernkindsoftechnologieswehavenow.

There'shugeknowledgethereandalotofthatarejustbeingrediscoverednow.GooutthereandcheckoutAlberto'sworkandifyoureallywanttofollowthisstuff,I'veactuallydonethetrainingattheFourWindsAcademyandit'sprettypowerfulstuff.Itisnotwhatyou'dexpectbutit'sareallygoodwaytoconnectwiththatenergythatwetalkedaboutandalsoagoodwaytolearnaboutmitochondrialfunctionandsomeoftheothernutrientswhichIreallydidn'texpectwhenIwentthereandIfirstmetAlberto.Thisissomethingspecialanduniqueandit'sworthyourattention.Haveanawesomeday.

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