To Feel (in) the DaggerThe concept of Fuhlen without contact of blades (presentation of a hypothesis)
Karel ernn, Revertar
Sources for techniques usedDanzig (1452, Cod.44.A.8 )Talhoffer (1443, MS Chart.A.558; 1450, MS 78.A.15; 1459, MS Thott.290.2; 1467, Codex Icon 394a) Kal (cca 1470, CGM 1507)Wallerstein (cca 1470, Cod.I.6.4.2)Falkner (1495, MS KK5012)Goliath (cca 1510, MS German Quarto 2020)Drer (1512, MS 26-232)Berlin (1512, Libr.Pict.A.83)Glasgow (1508, MS E.1939.65.341)
partly: Liberi (cca 1410, Pisani-Dossi Edition)Marozzo (1536, Opera Nova)
Inspiration
Eli Steenput: oponents reaction to one technique can create opening and opportunity for anotherColin Richards: Fuhlen can be used to choose between different techniquesAnton Kohutovi: to apply Fuhlen you need to put oponent under pressure
Executive summaryPRIMARY COUNTER (plan A):Catch attackers armed hand, push it out of the way, keep contact and control.If you have a dagger, stab. / If not, hit him in the face and throw him.
FUHLEN:If you fail (he counters), feel the pressure of his armed hand.
SECONDARY COUNTER (plan B):According to WEICH or HERT apply locks, breaks, disarms and throws.
High stab Upper shieldTalhoffer 1459 64v
Primary counter = stabLiberi (Pisani-Dossi) 10v
HERT: Secondary countersTalhoffer 1467 t. 182, Goliath t. 11
WEICH: Secondary countersWallerstein 25r, Talhoffer 1450
System in the dagger fighting:
A hidden truth or a sophisticated lie?
Reasons FOR the systemComplex locks and disarms dont work as primary techniques beacuse:attacker escapesattacker counters
Quick primary counter forces attacker to react and opens opportunity for applying more complex techniques
Reasons AGAINST the systemNot supported by manuscripts all techniques appear to be primary.
Different possible explanations for broad portfolio of techniques - choice might be based on: defenders preferences or intentattackers characteristics (taller/smaller, stronger/weaker)attack (angle, positions of feet)
Chaotic situation after primary counter what if syndrom
Still want to hear more of our sophisticated lies?Here we go!
A.Unarmed
High stab left hand blockTalhoffer 1450
Primary counter = neck throwTalhoffer 1450
HERT: Secondary countersTalhoffer 1459 61v, Durer t.48, Berlin 52v (Danzig 86r)
WEICH: Secondary countersTalhoffer 1443 t. 121
B.Armed
High stab left hand blockFalkner 46v
Primary counter = stabTalhoffer 1467 t.190
HERT: Secondary countersTalhoffer 1467 t.178, Talhoffer 1459 70v, Talhoffer 1467 t.188
WEICH: Secondary counters| Merck | hat er den degen gefast | das die scheib an seine~ klaine finger stet | vnd sticht dir oben zu so ver ker dein lincke hant | vnd var von vnden auf | vnd begreif m den arm~ vor pe der hannt vnder seine~ degen | vnd wrg m den degen mit deine~ lincken arm~ vbersich auf Danzig 94v-95rFalkner 48v
A.Unarmed
High stab right hand blockTalhoffer 1450
Primary counter = throwMarozzo t.61
HERT: Secondary countersTalhoffer 1443 t.118Sticht Er aber den ober stich zu dir / nach deine~ haubt / oder zu der prust / so far von vndt auff mit der recht ewichen hant / vndter sein rechte hant / vnd begreyff in den arm~ / vnd mit der linckn hant vber sein recht arm~ / thue den tegen v dir / so nymbst du im den tege / oder wurfst in vber ein pain / als oben gemalt stet /
Glasgow 98r
WEICH: Secondary countersTalhoffer 1450
B.Armed
High stab right hand blockBerlin 61v
Primary counter = stab| Merck sticht er von oben nyder | vnd hat den degen gefast das die scheib hinden an der hant stet | So fass dein degen auch also | vnd stich von vnden auf mit verkartem degen gegen seinen stich | vnd lass dir die hant nicht begreiffen | vnd stich in das gesicht ~Danzig 95r
Berlin 65v
HERT: Secondary countersTalhoffer 1443 92r, Kal 77v
WEICH: Secondary countersBerlin 55r, Talhoffer 1459 65v
A.Unarmed
Low stab both hands blockTalhoffer 1450
Primary counter = throwVar mit deiner lincken hant vor fr sein hals | vnd schreit mit deinem lincken fues hinder seinen rechten | vnd wrf n vber dein lincks kne aus dem fuess ~
Danzig 96r
HERT: Secondary counterFalkner 52r
WEICH: Secondary counter| Wenn dir einer mit dem degen vnden zu sticht so begreif m den arm~ arm~ mit paiden henden | vnd lauf m durch den arm~ | vnd halt fest | So prichstu Im den arm~ auch nmpstu Im den degen | ob dw wild ~Danzig 96r
Berlin 53r
B.Armed
Low stab left hand blockKal 76v (catching the hand - Danzig 94v)
Primary counter = stabBerlin 38r
HERT: Secondary counterTalhoffer 1467 t.182
WEICH: Secondary counterKal 77r
bonus:Armed
High stab dagger blockTalhoffer 1443 88v
Primary counter = arm breakWallerstein 22v
HERT: Secondary counterTalhoffer 1459 64r
WEICH: Secondary counterWallerstein 25v
