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[Digestion] Biogas COD/CH4 yield Gasan Osojnik gasan.osojnik at gmail.com Mon Feb 14 22:32:04 PST 2011 Previous message: [Digestion] Negative Biogas Press Next message: [Digestion] Digestion of Honey Waste Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Dear all, I think the discussed parameters regarding the COD/CH4 yield have to be further clarified. The reference value 0.35 m3 methane / kg of COD is a theoretical value everyone can calculate, and is used for engineering purposes in the designing & optimization stage of the biogas plant. As Marcus already explained, it is calculated on the basis of COD *of* methane, therefore: CH4 + 2xO2 ‐> CO2 + 2xH2O m(CH4) = 16 g m (2xO2) = 64 g COD(CH4) = 16 g CH4 / 64 g O2 = 4 g COD As 1 mole of gas = 22,4 dm3 @ stp, ρ(CH4) = 16g / 22,4 dm3 = 0,71 g/dm3 And 1 g of CH4 occupies @stp V(CH4) = 22,4 / 16g = 1,4 dm3 CH4 To summarize, 1 g of CH4 is 4 g of COD and occupies 1,4 dm3 CH4 @stp, therefore, per 1 g of COD Y= 1,4 dm3 CH4/4g COD = 0,35 m3 CH4 / kg COD Anaerobic degradation of 1 kg COD of substrate (which is "transfered" to the COD of methane) therefore theoretically yields 0,35 m3 of methane. As expected, this values are strongly under matched in real operating conditions. The value mentioned by Mel, derived from experimental conditions, is most likely coincidental, meaning that the operating conditions in that particular case (0,35 m3 CH4 / 4 kg COD) meaning, that the Yi = (0,35/1) / (0,35/4) = 25% of theoretical yield, or can be derived from inappropriate interpretation of the theoretical values, as 1000 mol of CH4 do indeed correspond to 4 kg of COD (4 g COD/mole of CH4). BR from SI, Gasan > > Thanks Marcus for your response to my query: > > > > > > > All, > >> > > > Do you know of (have) a way to "translate" BOD and/or COD to methane > > > potential? It would of course have to be in terms of BOD/COD removed > > > giving rise to so much methane. > >> > > > Mel > > > > > > Hi Mel, > >> > > > if you consider the removed COD is completely transferred to CH4 in the > > > Biogas (CO2=0 COD) you can calculate: > >> > > > 1g COD removed ‐> 0,25g CH4 > > > Or 1g COD removed ‐> 0,35 L CH4 (273K, 1013 mbar). > >> > > > If you want to estimate more exactly you may consider that some fo the > > > removed COD flows into H2 and microbial biomass. > >> > > > Markus > > > > Your calculation, however, is at odds with the statement in Grady et al.

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    [Digestion]BiogasCOD/CH4yieldGasanOsojnikgasan.osojnikatgmail.comMonFeb1422:32:04PST2011

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    Dearall,

    IthinkthediscussedparametersregardingtheCOD/CH4yieldhavetobefurtherclarified.

    Thereferencevalue0.35m3methane/kgofCODisatheoreticalvalueeveryonecancalculate,andisusedforengineeringpurposesinthedesigning&optimizationstageofthebiogasplant.AsMarcusalreadyexplained,itiscalculatedonthebasisofCOD*of*methane,therefore:

    CH4+2xO2>CO2+2xH2O

    m(CH4)=16gm(2xO2)=64gCOD(CH4)=16gCH4/64gO2=4gCOD

    As1moleofgas=22,4dm3@stp,

    (CH4)=16g/22,4dm3=0,71g/dm3

    And1gofCH4occupies@stp

    V(CH4)=22,4/16g=1,4dm3CH4

    Tosummarize,1gofCH4is4gofCODandoccupies1,4dm3CH4@stp,

    therefore,per1gofCOD

    Y=1,4dm3CH4/4gCOD=0,35m3CH4/kgCOD

    Anaerobicdegradationof1kgCODofsubstrate(whichis"transfered"totheCODofmethane)thereforetheoreticallyyields0,35m3ofmethane.Asexpected,thisvaluesarestronglyundermatchedinrealoperatingconditions.

    ThevaluementionedbyMel,derivedfromexperimentalconditions,ismostlikelycoincidental,meaningthattheoperatingconditionsinthatparticularcase(0,35m3CH4/4kgCOD)meaning,thattheYi=(0,35/1)/(0,35/4)=25%oftheoreticalyield,orcanbederivedfrominappropriateinterpretationofthetheoreticalvalues,as1000molofCH4doindeedcorrespondto4kgofCOD(4gCOD/moleofCH4).

    BRfromSI,Gasan

    >>ThanksMarcusforyourresponsetomyquery:>>>>>>>All,>>>>>>Doyouknowof(have)awayto"translate"BODand/orCODtomethane>>>potential?ItwouldofcoursehavetobeintermsofBOD/CODremoved>>>givingrisetosomuchmethane.>>>>>>Mel>>>>>>HiMel,>>>>>>ifyouconsidertheremovedCODiscompletelytransferredtoCH4inthe>>>Biogas(CO2=0COD)youcancalculate:>>>>>>1gCODremoved>0,25gCH4>>>Or1gCODremoved>0,35LCH4(273K,1013mbar).>>>>>>Ifyouwanttoestimatemoreexactlyyoumayconsiderthatsomefothe>>>removedCODflowsintoH2andmicrobialbiomass.>>>>>>Markus>>>>Yourcalculation,however,isatoddswiththestatementinGradyetal.

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    >>1999,page600in"BiologicalWastewaterTreatment2ndedition"Marcel>>Dekker.Thestatementisthat4kgCODremovedgenerates0.35m3of>>methane(0.35LCH4/4gCODremoved).Alsothatfigureornearaboutsis>>foundinotherdocuments.Apparentlyitwasderivedfromtheoretical>>calculation(notunderstoodbyme)andalsofromseriousobservationof>>realsystems.Ifrepetition=validity,thhanthfigureisusable.>>>>Perhapsotherscanweighinonthetheoreticalend,orreportother>>"sightingsofthetranslation.>>>>Mel>nextpartAnHTMLattachmentwasscrubbed...URL:

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