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The Abundant Mystic www.theabundantmystic.com Panache Desai–Transcript [0:00:00] Edward: Well, hello and welcome, everyone. I am Edward Mills, the host and the producer of this Abundant Mystic Series and I am very, very excited and so appreciative that you are here with us today. We have a big crowd here today for Panache Desai. Very excited to have Panache on the call with us today. We'll bring him in just a moment to bring his vibrational transformation and energy transmission and just his wonderful, wonderful presence, so looking forward to that. Before we do that, I want to give you a heads up that we love, love, love to get your comments, your questions, your insights, your ahas. It's a great way for you to share with others. It's a great way for you to integrate what you are learning when you share your insights and what you are taking in. Go to the Yes page, theabundantmystic.com/yes, scroll down until you see the comments section, click on the "Add a comment" button and go ahead and type your comment in there. If, for some reason, you can't enter it into the Facebook comment area, just enter it into the webcast Q&A section there just right above there. If we have time and have some questions, I'll be asking Panache actually, I see that we have a couple of questions already that have come in before the call so hopefully we'll have time to get to some of those. All right. Let's go ahead and get into our sacred space, our space where we are open and able to receive the wisdom, the insight. Panache is going to be talking a lot about receiving today so it's wonderful that we take this time to begin that process of coming together into this collective field of intention. Go ahead and just focus on your breath and with each breath you take in, bring yourself present, bring yourself into this field, bring yourself into an openness and a willingness to take in and receive the insights, the energy, the vibration that Panache will be bringing us here in just a moment. With each exhale, as you release the breath, release tension in your body, let your body relax. Remember that stress, tension is a sign of resistance. When you feel it in your body, it means you are resisting the abundance that is all around you, the abundance, the blessing that want to come into you. As you exhale, consciously relax your body and open more fully to the blessing, to the

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Panache  Desai–Transcript    [0:00:00]    Edward:   Well,   hello   and   welcome,   everyone.   I   am   Edward   Mills,   the   host   and   the  

producer  of   this  Abundant  Mystic  Series  and  I  am  very,  very  excited  and  so  appreciative  that  you  are  here  with  us  today.  We  have  a  big  crowd  here  today  for  Panache  Desai.   Very   excited   to  have  Panache  on   the   call  with  us   today.  We'll  bring  him  in  just  a  moment  to  bring  his  vibrational  transformation  and  energy  transmission  and  just  his  wonderful,  wonderful  presence,  so  looking  forward  to  that.    

    Before  we  do  that,  I  want  to  give  you  a  heads  up  that  we  love,  love,  love  to  get  

your  comments,  your  questions,  your  insights,  your  ahas.  It's  a  great  way  for  you  to  share  with  others.   It's  a  great  way  for  you  to   integrate  what  you  are  learning  when  you  share  your  insights  and  what  you  are  taking  in.  Go  to  the  Yes   page,   theabundantmystic.com/yes,   scroll   down   until   you   see   the  comments   section,   click  on   the   "Add  a   comment"  button  and  go   ahead  and  type  your  comment  in  there.    

    If,   for  some  reason,  you  can't  enter   it   into  the  Facebook  comment  area,   just  

enter  it  into  the  webcast  Q&A  section  there  just  right  above  there.  If  we  have  time  and  have  some  questions,  I'll  be  asking  Panache  -­‐-­‐  actually,  I  see  that  we  have   a   couple   of   questions   already   that   have   come   in   before   the   call   so  hopefully  we'll  have  time  to  get  to  some  of  those.    

    All  right.  Let's  go  ahead  and  get   into  our  sacred  space,  our  space  where  we  

are  open  and  able  to  receive  the  wisdom,  the  insight.  Panache  is  going  to  be  talking  a  lot  about  receiving  today  so  it's  wonderful  that  we  take  this  time  to  begin  that  process  of  coming  together  into  this  collective  field  of  intention.  

    Go   ahead   and   just   focus   on   your   breath   and  with   each   breath   you   take   in,  

bring   yourself   present,   bring   yourself   into   this   field,   bring   yourself   into   an  openness  and  a  willingness  to  take  in  and  receive  the  insights,  the  energy,  the  vibration  that  Panache  will  be  bringing  us  here  in  just  a  moment.  With  each  exhale,  as  you  release  the  breath,  release  tension  in  your  body,  let  your  body  relax.    

 Remember  that  stress,  tension  is  a  sign  of  resistance.  When  you  feel  it  in  your  body,   it  means   you   are   resisting   the   abundance   that   is   all   around   you,   the  abundance,   the   blessing   that   want   to   come   into   you.   As   you   exhale,  consciously   relax   your   body   and   open   more   fully   to   the   blessing,   to   the  

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abundance,  to  the  beauty  of  this  life,  this  world  that's  all  around  you  wanting  to  flow  into  you  and  through  you.      As   we   come   together   into   the   field   where   the   intention   is   to   expand   the  abundance,   know   that   you   have   the   capacity   to   create   a   life   of   true  abundance.  Know  that  you  have  the  capacity  to  create  personal  prosperity  in  your  life  while  you  are  in  whatever  way  you  choose  serving  the  highest  good  of  all,  that  those  can  co-­‐exist.  Abundance  and  service  and  spirit  can  co-­‐exist.  That  is  the  intention  of  this  series.  That  is  the  energy  that  Panache  holds  so  beautifully  and  will  be  bringing  to  us  right  now  as  we  bring  him  on.      Thank  you,  thank  you  for  joining  us.  Thank  you  for  helping  to  co-­‐create  this  field  of  abundance  as  we  come  together.  Let  me  go  ahead  and  read  Panache's  official  bio  and  bring  him  in.  He's  already  here  with  us  on  the  line.      If  you  don't  know,  Panache  Desai  is  a  contemporary  spiritual  teacher  and  an  inspirational   visionary  whose   gift   of   vibrational   transformation   has   drawn  thousands   of   people   from   around   the   world.   He's   not   aligned   with   any  religious   or   spiritual   tradition   but   he   acts   as   a   direct   line   to   divine  consciousness,   empowering   people   to   free   themselves   of   pain,   suffering,  sadness,  and  self-­‐limiting  beliefs.    He   is   a   highly   sought   after   speaker   featured   regularly   in   print,   broadcast  media,  and  online.  He  recently  appeared  with  Oprah  Winfrey  on   the  Emmy  Award-­‐winning   series   Super   Soul   Sunday   and   he's   collaborated   with  internationally   recognized   spiritual   teachers   including   Reverend   Michael  Bernard   Beckwith,   Elizabeth   Lesser,   Brian  Weiss,   M.D.,   James   Van   Praagh,  Ram   Dass,   Alan   Cohen,   James   Redfield,   Colette   Baron-­‐Reid,   Neale   Donald  Walsch  and  so  many  more.    It  is  such  a  pleasure  and  an  honor  to  have  Panache  with  us  here  today.  Help  me  welcome  him  vibrationally   from  where   you   are   into   our   field.   Panache,  welcome  and  thank  you  so  much  for  joining  us  here  on  the  Abundant  Mystic.    

Panache:   Well,  thanks  for  having  me.  I  can't  wait  to  get  started.  I'm  excited.    [0:05:01]    Edward:   Let's   do   it.   Let's   start,   Panache.   Actually,   just   lay   the   groundwork   and   talk  

about  your  definition,  how  you  define  true  abundance.    Panache:   True   abundances   are   not   just   state   of   being.  When  we're   in   harmony  with  

ourselves,   when   we're   no   longer   judging   ourselves,   when   we're   no   longer  trying   to   improve  or   fit  or  become  some  other  version  of  ourself,  when  we  can  just  come  into  alignment  with  who  we've  been  created  to  be,  abundance  happens.  

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    The   current   transformational   model   or   the   manifestational   model   is   us  

backwards  because  it's  often  focused  on  something  is  missing.  For  example,  I  don't  have  money  in  my  life.  In  some  way,  that  means  something  about  me.  People  often  start  this  exploration  from  a  place  of  brokenness  or  wrong  and  when  you  start  from  there,  you'll  end  up  there.  For  me,  any  exploration  that  we  undergo  whether  it  be  abundance  or  health  or  any  of  these  states  of  being  that  are  just  natural  states  of  being,  if  we  can  start  from  the  truth  that  we  are  already  abundant,  then  that's  where  we'll  finish.    

 I   always   like   to   say   to   people   that   right   now   you   are   experiencing   that  abundance  to  the  degree  to  which  you  are  allowing  it  to  be  there.  And  what's  getting   in   the   way   simply   is   always   your   emotional   content   that   you  repressed   or   suppressed   or   you've   judged   your   sadness,   your   anger,   and  your   fear.  The  more  you   repress  or   suppress   that   content   and   judge   it,   the  more   it  becomes  rage  and   the  more   it  becomes  depression  and   the  more   it  becomes   this   irrational   relationship   with   this   energy   of   fear   to   the   point  where   our   natural   potential   becomes   enshrouded   and   that   natural   state   of  abundance  is  no  longer  reflected  in  our  lives.    Our   time   together   really   is   just  a   returning  back   to  our  state  of  abundance.  It's   letting   go   of   all   these   transformational   paradigms   and  models   that   just  keep   us   kind   of   ensconced   as   victims   and   just   moving   into   a   state   of  empowerment   through   the   conscious   recognition   that   we   are   already   that  which  we  are  seeking.      

Edward:   Wow,   that's   beautiful.   There   are   so  many   people   on   this   call.  We've   really  attracted   spiritual   seekers,  mystics,   people  who   have   a   practice.  What   is   it  that   prevents   or   gets   in   the   way?   When   people   have   a   spiritual   practice,  when   they   are  doing   the  work,  what  prevents   them?  What   gets   in   the  way  from  their  ability  to  create  abundance  or  health  or  love  in  their  lives?  

 Panache:   They   are   actually   trying   to   create   a   specific   goal   or   an   outcome.   For   me,  

abundance  isn't  about  your  bank  balance  or  about  the  current  state  of  your  credit   card   bill.   Abundance   is   actually   a   feeling.   It's   an   internal   experience  and   I   think   that   this   is   where   it's   all   gotten   lost   in   translation.   A   lot   of  conversations   that   we've   had   that   have   impacted   mass   consciousness   like  The  Secret  and  manifestation  and  the  law  of  attraction,  all  these  things  have  only  been  half  explored.    

    When  we  really  get  to  it,  our  universe  is  a  vibrational  universe.  It  responds  to  

our  personal  energy  and  frequency.  What  does  that  mean?  That  means  that  our  feeling  is   informing  our  reality  and  the  highest  state  of  being  there  is   is  peace.  When   you're   at   peace  with   yourself,   your   soul   and   your   personality  are  in  alignment,  and  the  greatest  gift  there  is  is  acceptance.  The  greatest  tool  that  there  is  to  access  that  is  acceptance.    

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    The   biggest   issue   or   the   biggest   stumbling   block   is   that   spirituality   has  

become   serious   and   it's   become  work.   People   are   working   on   themselves.  People   are  working   on   themselves   thinking   that   the   version   of   themselves  that  they  are  currently  being  is  in  some  way  inadequate  or  deficient.    

 Well,   that   actually   is   an   insanity   and   that   conversation   implies   that  God  or  the  divine  or  this   infinite   intelligence  that  made  you  doesn't  know  what   it's  doing.  We've  got  to  get  beyond  our  collective  ignorance  around  who  we  are,  and   the   collective   ignorance  around  who  we  are   is   that  we  are  deficient   in  some  way   or   that  we   are   less   than   or   that  we   are   broken   because  we   are  human.      You  are  not  broken.  Right  now,   I  want  you   to  know  that  you're  everything.  You   are   everything.   You're   infinite.   And   I   know   that   because   I   experienced  the  divine.  What  I'm  sharing  with  you  is  not  based  on  something  I've  read  in  a   book   or   the   regurgitation   of   some   ancient   teaching   that's   been   handed  down   from   generation   to   generation   or   my   interpretation   of   something.  What   I'm   sharing  with   you   is   born   of  my   own   personal   experience   of   this  infinite  majesty  that  7.2  billion  people  are  trying  to  connect  with  called  God.      That   infinite   energy   is   just   love   and   it   just   loves   you.   And   there's   no  work  involved  in  that,  there  is  no  everything  involved  in  that,  there  is  no  struggle  involved  in  that  because  it's  as  natural  as  your  breath.  It  as  natural  as  the  fact  that  you  are  breathing  now  and  it  is  as  real  and  as  true  as  that.      I   just   want   you   to   know   that.   I   think   often   we   come   to   forums   like   these  wanting  to  be  fixed  or  healed  or  in  some  way  look  for  something  outside  of  us  that  doesn't  already  exist.  That's  all  nonsense.  That's  not  why  we  are  here.  We  are  here  for  you  to  be  empowered  in  who  you  are  as  you  are.  So,  just  take  some  breaths  and  just  open  your  palms  and  just  receive  that.  We  are  here,  for  every  single  one  of  you,  to  be  empowered  in  yourself  as  you  are.  As  you  are.  That  is  the  miracle.  That  is  the  key  to  accessing  your  abundance.  

 [0:10:15]    Edward:   It's  interesting  but  probably  no  coincidence  that  the  term  for  not  having  a  lot  

of  money  is  "broke"  and  it's  so  close  to  "broken."  I  love  that  you've  shifted  us  in  our  perception,  in  our  awareness  just  in  this  short  time  out  of  this  place  of  brokenness  and  brokeness  into  a  place  of  perceiving  ourselves  as  whole  and  abundant  and  full.  

    So   many   people   it   seems   get   stuck   on   that   broken   place,   that   incomplete  

place.   "I'm   not   whole   until   something   happens."   How   do   you   encourage  people  to  really  feel   into  that  wholeness?  Into  that  part  of  them  that  knows  that  they  are  complete  and  whole  and  perfect  right  now?  

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 Panache:   That's  a  great  question.  The  ego  perceives  incompletion  so  as  an  identity  –  I  

often  tweet  this.  Identity  equals  incomplete.  Soul  equals  whole  and  complete.  What's  happening  right  now  is  a  shift  in  our  internal  state  from  our  personal  identity,   which   is   based   in   limitation   –   conditioning,   past   experiences,  unresolved  pain,  unresolved  trauma.  That's  what  constitutes  our  identity.  

    As   long   as   we   are   viewing   our   life   through   the   lens   of   our   identity,   we'll  

perceive   brokenness   and  we'll  make   ourselves  wrong   and   then  we'll   go   in  this  crusade  of  trying  to  become  better  or  more  lovable  or  more  acceptable.  Well,  that's  a  never-­‐ending  cycle  that  goes  nowhere.    

    What  we   can   do   in   any   given  moment   is   accept   ourselves   the  way  we   are.  

When   I   experienced   the   divine,   there  was   no   judgment,   there  was   nothing  that   I   needed   to   do.   It   didn't   matter   how   I   had   lived   my   life.   I   was   just  embraced  with  who  I  was.    

    What  if  that's  the  truth?  We  are  so  actively  seeking  for  something  to  qualify  

us  or  someone  to  qualify  us  and  we're  looking  outside  of  ourselves  to  people  who   don't   love   themselves   so   how   can   they   love   us   for   that   qualification?  We're   looking   to   "experts"  who   haven't   experienced  what   they   are   talking  about  for  validation.  Where  is  it  going  to  come  from?  

    At  some  point,  we  finally  have  to  stop  the  seeking  and  searching  and  just  be  

good  enough  for  ourselves.  At  some  point,  you  have  to  finally  be  good  enough  for   you   and   get   off   this   hamster   wheel   of   transformation   and   spiritual  seeking  and  searching  and  just  start  being  who  you  have  been  created  to  be,  recognizing   and   acknowledging   that   you   as   you   are   right   now   are   100%  loved   and   adored   by   the   divine.   You're   good   enough   for   God   so   then  why  then  aren't  you  good  enough  for  yourself?  

 Edward:   I've  been  listening  to  your  Igniting  Boundless  Receiving  program  and  what  I  

have  experienced  is  in  your  work,  in  the  processes  that  you  do,  the  speaking  that  you  do,  there  feels  to  me  like  there  is  such  a  strong  belief  in  you  of  the  perfection  and  the  wholeness  of  the  people  you  are  talking  to.  It's  almost  like  it   short   circuits   the   part   inside   of   us   that   disbelieves   that.   It's   like   your  believing,   your   belief,   your   ability   to   hold   the   vision   of   our   wholeness   is  stronger  than  our  disbelief.  Does  that  make  sense?  

 Panache:   Well,  yeah,  because  the  truth  is  always  more  powerful  than  a  lie.      Edward:   Hmm.    Panache:   So,  when  you're  in  the  presence  of  a  truth,  when  you're  in  the  presence  of  the  

truth,  any  and  all  illusions  have  no  choice  but  to  fall  away.  That's  the  blessing  of   having   a   friend  who   just   sees   you   as   that   because   really   all   these   labels  

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that  are  given  to  me  are  just  labels  that  people  project  on  me  that  I  don't  ever  accept.  Simply,  I'm  just  here  as  a  friend  to  remind  you  of  who  you  already  are  and  there's  something  magnificent  that  happens.  

    The   other   thing   that's   great   about   this   particular   work   –   I   hate   using   the  

word   "work"  but   this   greater  unfolding  –   is   that   the  density,   the  emotional  content  that  keeps  you  from  that  truth  experientially  begins  to  come  up.  Love  brings   up   everything   in   you   that   you   have   labeled   to   not   be   lovable.   That  starts  to  all  bubble  up  to  the  surface.  As  that  emotional  content  bubbles  up  to  the   surface,   at   that   point,  more   of   your   light   and   potential   begins   to   shine  through.    

    You  see,  I  know  who  everybody  is.  It's  like  the  game  of  hide  and  seek.  As  far  

as  I  am  concerned,  it's  over.  You  can't  hide  from  me,  right?  Busted.    Edward:   You  found  us.    Panache:   Yeah,  you're  an  infinite  being.  Game  over.  Your  story  and  everything  else  that  

you  believe   is   real.  Well,   enjoy   it  but   it's  not   the   truth  of  you.  There  are   so  much  more.  I  see  who  you  are  and  in  my  presence  I  won't  allow  you  to  show  up   as   anything   less   than   you   are   because   I   know   you.   I   know  what   you're  capable  of  and  I  know  the  magnificence  that  lives  inside  of  you.  

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 You   see,   it's  not   a  belief   from  an   intellectual   level.  Again,   this   is   all   born  of  personal   experience.  This   is   born  of   the  divine   showing  me  directly  what's  going   on   here   and  who   everybody   is.   That   experience   then   translates.   You  want  to  identify  with  yourself  as  limitation,  well,  that's  great.  But  I  can  only  see  you  as  your  magnificence.  Sorry.      Eventually,   there's  going  to  come  a  point  where  you're  going  to  start  to  see  yourself  as  your  magnificence.  The  very  second  you  come   into  contact  with  this  energy  and  this  truth,  you  can't  fit  back  in  that  box  of  limitation  even  if  you  want   to.   You've   become   too   big.   You've   evolved   beyond.   You   are  way  beyond.  Your  awareness  is  bigger,  your  vibrational  potential  is  bigger,  and  all  that  you  are  is  forever  different.  I  guess  another  way  of  saying  it  is  that  right  now   a   lot   of   people   are   more   than   they   are   willing   to   love   themselves  because  I  know  who  they  are.    

Edward:   Yeah,   really,   there   is   a   power   that   comes   through   that   is   just   incredibly  transformational.   Just   listening   to  you   talk  now  and   listening   to  you  on   the  Boundless  Receiving  program,  there  is  just  a  power  that  comes  through  that  just  zeroes  –  it's  like  a  laser  that  goes  right  through  all  of  the  other  stuff,  all  of  the   layers   of   resistance   and   doubt   and   fear   and   zeroes   right   into   that  

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wholeness  that's  in  the  center  and  begins  to  open  it  up  and  allow  it  to  shine  through.  

    What  is  the  role  of  receiving  in  this  process  of  becoming  whole?  Can  you  talk  

a  little  bit  about  that?    Panache:   Yeah,   the  more   I   stop   fighting   against  myself,   the  more   I   started   accepting  

myself  and  embracing  who  I  was,   the  more  I  open  up  to  receiving  all  of  my  natural  gifts  and  abilities  and  my  natural  talents.  The  funny  thing  is  when  we  stop  fighting  our  design  and  we  come  into  harmony  with  ourselves,  we  can  then  access   the  qualities   of   our   spirit.  Now,   our   spirit   is   healthy,   luminous,  radiant,  abundant.  Our  spirit  is  all  of  that.    

 The   funny   thing   is   that   you   as   an   identity   cannot   resolve   your   problems.  Right   now,   it's   just   a   bunch   of   egos   fixing   egos   and   that's   why   it's   not  working.   That's   why   this   entire   spiritual   paradigm   is   being   completely  shaken  up  because  it's  just  egos  fixing  egos  and  you  can't  solve  a  problem  on  the  same  level  of  consciousness  of  which  it  was  created.      What's   happening   now   is   we're   moving   into   a   space   where   our   soul   is  beginning  to  illuminate  and  infiltrate  every  aspect  of  who  we  are,  and  that's  what   this   energy   is   really.   That   harmony   then   leads   us   into   a   greater  receptivity.   It's   like   if   someone   tries   to   love   you   and   you're   pissed   off,   you  can't   receive   that   love.   If   you're   sad   and   you're   depressed,   no  matter   how  much   someone   tells   you   that   you   are  magnificent,   you   can't   hear   that.   You  won't  be   that.   If  you're  afraid,  no  matter  how  much  someone   tells  you   that  you've  got  this  amazing  potential  in  you,  you  can't  access  that.      Right  now,  the  divine  is  providing  a  solution  to  everybody  and  it's   like,  hey,  you   know   what?   Let's   take   all   this   emotional   content,   let's   take   all   this  vibrational  density  and   let's   lovingly   just  recycle   that   in  your  behalf  so   that  you  can  start  to  access  what's  always  been  there,  so  you  can  start  to  access  the  power  that's  within  you  and  not  just  hear  it  but  experience  it.      For  me,   that's  been   the  greatest  difference   for  me   is   that   right  now   there's  just  a  lot  of  people  in  this  industry  talking  to  people  and  that's  not  making  the  slightest  bit  of  difference  anymore.  You  can  go  and  listen  to  a  lecture,  you  can  go  and   learn  a   technique  or   a  modality,   you   can  go  do   something   like   that,  that  provides  you  access  but  it  doesn't  provide  you  transformation.    What  we  have  been  able  to  do  lovingly  is  to  guide  people  into  this  vibrational  space  and  they  certainly  have  to  do  it  for  themselves.  It's  not  a  technique;  it's  just  an  acceptance  of  what   is.   It's  a  profound  coming   into  relationship  with  what  is;  igniting  their  boundless  receiving  so  that  they  can  receive  everything  that  life  has  to  offer  them.    

 

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Edward:   There  is  one  process  you  do  in  that  program  where  you  actually  love  people's  fear,  you  love  people's  sadness,  you  love  people's  rage  and  anger.  What's  the  idea  behind  that?  What  are  you  actually  doing  when  you  are  loving  what  we  would  consider  shortcomings  or  negative  emotions?  

 Panache:   Well,  there's  not  really  a  plan.  It's  just  kind  of  what  flows  through  me.  It's  the  

first  thing.  I  think  that  we're  calculated  as  to  if  I  do  this,  what's  the  outcome  going  to  be?  I  guess  I'm  just  a  good  conduit  is  the  answer.  

 Edward:   Yeah.    Panache:   The  outcome  of  it  is  of  course  is  that  as  human  beings  we've  judged  all  those  

parts  of  ourselves  as  wrong  or  bad,  and  when  we  judge  things  in  ourselves,  we  cut  off  the  flow.  Emotions  are  just  energies  in  motion  but  the  problem  is  we  have  judged  our  emotions  and  we  have  created  a  hierarchy  of  emotions.  So,   then   what   happens   is   when   we're   angry   or   we're   sad   or   we're   afraid,  we're  going  to,  instead  of  just  feeling  those  emotions,  we  stuff  them  or  we  try  to  compensate  for  them  or  we  deny  them  or  we  create  addictive  patterns  and  behaviors  to  avoid  feeling  them,  to  numb  ourselves.  

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 In  loving  those  parts  of  you,  you  can  then  come  into  a  conscious  acceptance  and   embracing   of   them   as   a   part   of   you   because   what   you   are   willing   to  include   as   a   part   of   you   sets   you   free.   It   doesn't   have   any   power   over   you  anymore.   So,   instead   of   being   pissed   off   and   saying,   “well,   it's   because  my  second  chakra  isn't  spinning  properly  today.  Archangel  Michael  has  basically  just  given  up  on  me.  Saint  Germain's  having  a  cup  of   tea  with  Lady  Nada  in  the  15th  dimension  so  I'm  basically  just  screwed.”    Instead  of  having  that  kind  of  a  conversation,  why  not  just  be  angry?  Why  not  just  include  your  anger  as  a  part  of  you?  Why  not  just  be  willing  to  see  it  for  the  blessing  that   it   is?  You  see,  human  beings  have  got   it  backwards.  We're  not  here  to  learn  lessons,  we're  here  to  feel  and  experience  and  our  biggest  thing  in  our  reality  that's  keeping  us  from  the  fullness  of  who  we  are  is  our  unwillingness  to  have  the  experiences  that  are  arising  and  subsiding  in  each  moment  spontaneously.  That's  all.    

Edward:   That   is  beautiful,  Panache.  There's  a   lot  of  questions  and  we're  not  going  to  get  to  all  of   them  but  there's  one  that's  really   interesting  that  came  in  from  Pita.   I   think   that's   how   to   pronounce   her   name.   She   says   an   old   friend   of  yours,  a  new  of  friend  of  mine  wants  to  ask  a  question  about  karma  and  soul  cycles  and  karmic  lifetimes  and  wondering  is  it  possible  –  and  it's  interesting  that   this   question   is   coming   after   you   just   talked   about   St.   Germain   and  Archangel  Michael   and   all   that.   Is   it   possible   that   some  people   just   are  not  meant  to  have  abundance  in  this  lifetime?  

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 Panache:   Well,   I   think   it   depends   on   how   you   quantify   abundance.   For   me,   having  

abundance   is   being   peaceful,   not   about   what   you   have.   You   can   have  everything   in   the  world   and  not   be   abundant   funnily   enough.   In   fact,  most  people  have  a  lot  of  money  and  not  abundant.  They  are  living  in  a  perpetual  state  of  fear.  So,  for  me,  it's  not  about  the  outcomes  of  your  life.    

    See,  what  happened  is  their  spiritual  transformation  has  been  leveraged  into  

a  conversation  to  help  people  get  what  they  believe  they  need  in  order  to  be  more   fulfilled,   right?  That's  not   it.   It's   about  being   completely   fulfilled  now  regardless  of  what  you  have  and  what  you  don't  have  because   that  state  of  fulfillment  then  begins  to  vibrate  out  from  you  into  your  world.  And  then  you  can  really  enjoy  everything.  

    Again,   it   just   depends   on   your   definition   of   abundance   because   if   your  

definition  of  abundance  is  a  dollar  amount  in  your  bank,  then  you're  missing  the   point.   But   if   your   definition   of   abundance   is   fulfillment   and  wholeness  and   completion   or   a   state   of   oneness,   then   you're   heading   in   the   right  direction  which  is  internal,  which  is  within.  

    As  long  as  your  abundance  is  defined  by  something  external,  you're  missing  

the  point.  But  the  very  second  you  can  come  back  to  what's  true  inside  of  you  and  what's   ever   present   inside   of   you   and   connects  with   that,   then   at   that  point   you're   in   that   state   of   abundance.  That's   the   soulful   quality.   It   isn't   a  material  quality,  it's  a  soulful  quality.  

 Edward:   Yeah,  beautiful.  That  does  answer  her  question  in  a  way  that  –  it  almost  lifted  

up   out   of   the  whole   idea   of   karma   and   just   takes   it   right   into   the   present  moment  and  into  the  wholeness  of  the  present  moment.  

 Panache:   Because   people   are   trying   to   understand   concepts   and   ideas   that   they'll  

never   understand  with   their  mind.   People   are   trying   to   understand   things  but   you   can   only   experience.   That's   why   I'd  much   rather   just   have   people  experience  these  things.    

 In  fact,  when  Oprah  asked  me  what  my  definition  of  God  was,  I  couldn't  do  it  because  how  can  I  articulate  in  words  what  that  experience  is?  You  can't.  And  that's   the  problem.  We're  shifting  out  of  a  mental  state   into  an  experiential  state   and   a   lot   of   these   experiential   states,   you   can't   articulate   them.   You  can't  express  them  in  words.      But  when  you're  in  the  presence  of  someone  that's  had  that  experience,  you  know  something  is  going  on  in  that  person  and  that's  what  we're  here  now.  This   is  more   about   being   a   silent   embodiment   of   the   truth   rather   than   the  town   crier.   We've   got   too   many   town   criers.   There's   not   a   lot   of   people  

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embodying   it.   The   town   criers   have   been   useful   but   now   it's   time   for   the  town  criers  to  retire  so  people  can  just  really  embody  this  truth  as  them  now.    

Edward:   There's  a  great  question  here  from  Star  in  Tucson  who  wonders  –  and  this  is  something  that  comes  up  for  a  lot  of  spiritual  seekers  and  mystics,  a  concern  or   even   a   degree   of   worry   and   stress   about   the   state   of   the   planet.   She  wonders  how  we  can  be  assisting  our  planet  and  ultimately  ourselves  when  we're  seeing  things  around  us  in  the  global  field  that  are  stressful  and  seem  to  be  concerning.    

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 Panache:   On  any  given  day,  you  can  find  a  million  things  to  invalidate  your  beingness,  

to   invalidate   your   divinity,   and   to   invalidate   the   divine   perfection   of   the  world  or  you  can   just  come  into  a  place  of  acceptance,  come  into  a  place  of  peace   and   harmony   and   really   start   making   a   difference.   As   a   spiritual  community,   this   is   something   that  we   have   to   explore   now   because   to  me  what's   happening   in   the   world   is   what's   happening   in   the   world.   But   the  more  we  become  peaceful  in  ourselves,  the  less  these  things  will  happen.  

    Yeah,  we  can  draw  up  any  conversation  from  the  past  and  any  tragedy  that's  

ever  happened  and  we  can  begin  to  use  all  of  those  as  yet  one  more  reason  why   we   can't   own   our   perfection   and   why,   you   know,   maybe   the   divine  doesn't  exist  or  why  we're  not  achieving  our  potential.  There's  a  million  and  one  excuses.  Or  you  can  just  accept  your  feelings  around  what's  happening.  

    In  other  words  saying  it  is  that  these  global  events  are  just  illustrating  to  us  

on   a   personal   level   where   we   are   unresolved   with   ourselves.   First   and  foremost,   take   care   of   what   you   are   feeling   around   what's   happening   and  then  get  on  a  plane,  fly  there,  and  hug  people.  Don't  sit  there  at  home  being  victimized  by  what's  happening.  Become  peaceful  around  what's  happening  then  get  on  a  plane  and  go  and  feed  people  or  donate  money  to  a  cause  that's  making  a  difference  in  that  regional  area.  That's  what's  so  quiet  now.    

 Edward:   Beautiful.  That's  so  practical  because  it's  like  deal  with  what's  happening  on  

the  inside  so  you're  not   in  a  place  of   fear,  you're  not   in  a  place  of   judgment  and  then  actually  take  action  from  that  place.  So  many  people  take  action  out  of   fear   and   out   of   concern   and   that   seems   like   it's   just   contributing   to   the  perpetuation  of  these  external  experiences.  

 Panache:   And  also  I  think  the  thing  to  remember  is  that  the  planet's  going  to  be  here  

long  after  you.    Edward:   Yeah.    

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Panache:   So,  what  legacy  are  you  going  to  leave  behind?  I  mean  by  being  in  that  space  of  chaos  and  concern  and  by  being  in  that  place  of  fear,  what  legacy  are  you  leaving  behind?  Basically,  the  bottom  line  is  don't  be  spiritual  and  don't  say  you're  spiritual  if  you're  not  willing  to  be  peaceful.  

 Edward:   Interesting.  That's  kind  of   like  where  the  rubber  hits  the  road,  you  know.  If  

you're  going  to  be  spiritual,  then  bring  peace  to  the  world.    Panache:   If  you're  going  to  identify  with  that  label,  then  leave  behind  a  legacy  of  love  

and  harmony  by  being  loving  and  harmonious  with  yourself.  Otherwise,  don't  use  that  word.  Don't  use  that  label.  

 Edward:   Well,  it's  interesting.  It  feels  like  sometimes  people  use  the  label  "spiritual"  as  

-­‐-­‐   I'm   sure   you've   heard   the   term   "spiritual   bypass"   but   where   they   are  actually,  you  know,  underneath  that  spirituality,   there   is  a   lot  of  stuff   that's  not  really  peaceful  and  it's  coming  out  in  ways  that  are  actually  detrimental  and  harmful  to  themselves  and  to  people  around  them.  

 Panache:   Well,   in   some   ways,   that   word   has   just   become   an   excuse   for   people   to  

become  better  than  other  people.    Edward:   Hmm.    Panache:   To   justify  that.  Because   it's   like,  "Oh,   I'm  spiritual"  and  that  allows  me  to   in  

some  way  be  separate,  apart  and  different  than  everyone  else.  Well,  really,  it  doesn't  give  you  a  license  for  that  at  all  because  the  real  essence  of  that  word  is   the   interconnectedness   of   all   life   really.   Everything   is   that.   Everybody   is  that.   So,   it's   become   a   place   to   belong   but   it's   also   become   a   place   where  people   who   have   a   need   for   significance   often   hide   because   they   haven't  addressed  what's  inside  of  them  authentically.    

    Again,  folks,  this  is  about  you.  You  have  to  look  in  the  mirror  every  day.  You  

have   to   live   with   yourself.  What   I'm   saying   to   you   is   that   you   are   not   the  problem.   Start   embracing   what   you   see.   Start   embracing   what   you   are  feeling.   Start   accepting  who   you   are   and   you'll   start   to   experience   a   peace  that  you  can't  describe  in  words.  

 Edward:   Yeah,   that   feels   true.   I   can   feel   that   peace   as   you   even   say   it.   It's   like   you  

transmit   that   peace   when   you   speak   of   it.   Let's   circle   back   to   abundance.  We're  talking  about  spiritual  people  and  spirituality  and  often  there  is  a  split.  There   is   often   a   resistance   in   spiritual   people   to,   in   particular,   financial  abundance.  What   can  people   do  when   they  have   fear   or   resistance   or   they  actively   are   avoiding   financial   abundance?  How   can   they   begin   to   open   up  the  flow?  

 

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Panache:   Well,   if  you  are  really  spiritual,   then  what  does  that  mean?  That  means  you  are  embodying  the  gifts  of  the  spirit.  A  truly  spiritual  person  will  naturally  be  abundant   and   healthy   and   vital   and   connected   and   loved   and   calm   and  peaceful.  They'll  naturally  be  inclusive  of  their  humanity.    

 [0:30:11]       For  me,   this   aversion   that  we   have   in   spirituality   to  money   is   just   another  

way  of  punishing  ourselves.  It  just  gives  us  another  excuse  as  to  why  we  are  not  magnificent  and  as  to  why  our  life  doesn't  work.  We  have  to  have  a  look  at  why.  We  have  to  have  a   look  at  why,  where  we  are  coming   from.  What's  our  baseline  to  life?  Is  it  to  be  peaceful  and  harmonious?  What's  the  baseline?  The  baseline  is  going  to  determine  the  experience,  right?    

 The  funny  thing  is  that  the  more  you  accept  yourself  and  the  more  you're  in  harmony  with  yourself,  the  more  money  isn't  even  an  issue  anymore  and  the  more  health   isn't   even  an   issue  anymore  and   the  more   relationships  aren't  even  an  issue  anymore,  and  the  more  connection  to  the  divine  isn't  even  an  issue  anymore.  That's  the  funny  thing.    The  side  effects  of  living  a  life  of  divine  connection  are  all  of  those  things  that  you  want.   It's   just   that   right  now,   you   are   trying   to   get   them   through  your  personality  and  that's  why  you  don't  have  them.      

Edward:   Interesting.   There   seems   to   be   a   belief   in   some   people   that   when   you  completely  surrender  to  the  divine  that  you're  not  going  to  want  those  things  and  so  you'll   just  going  to  kind  of  disconnect  or  detach  or   just  not  really  be  present  in  the  physical  world.  

 Panache:   Well,  you're  not  going  to  want  them.  No.  But  that's  exactly  why  you're  going  

to  have  them.    Edward:   Hmm.    Panache:   Because   you   give   up   the   wanting   really.   I   mean   that's   why   we're   on   this  

conversation  on  spirituality.   If  you're  really  a  spiritual  person,   then  the  key  component  to  existing  as  that  in  the  world  is  trust.  For  me,   it  boils  down  to  you  are  either  trusting  or  you  are  not.  You  either  trust  in  God  and  you  trust  in  a   divine   and   you   trust   in   the   greater   plan   of   your   life   and   yourself   or   you  don't.  

    Now,   if   you   trust   in  yourself,   you   trust   in  God,  and  you   trust   in  all  of   these  

principles   that   everyone   is   now   acutely   familiar   with   out   of   their  participation   in   seminars   and   workshops   and   teleseminars   and   reading  books,   if  you  are  really  ready   for   that,   then  at  some  point  you  have  to  start  trusting  in  that.  But  that  trust  arises  through  the  experience.  

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    What's  happened  is  we  don't  trust  God.  We  want  to  be  connected  to  God  but  

we   don't   trust   the   divine.  We   don't   trust   ourselves.   That's  why   one   of   the  major   components   for   living  a   life  of   abundance,   after  you've  detoxed  your  density,  after  you've  actually  taken  care  of  that  emotional  content,  is  to  once  again  restore  your  trust  that  the  universe  is  on  your  side  because  it   is.   It   is.  And  it  will  prove  it  to  you  every  day.  

    Every   day   the   divine   blows  my  mind.   Every   day.   Things   happen   in  my   life  

every   day   that   blow   my   mind.   So,   naturally,   all   of   these   things   –   money,  health  –  everything  is  a  byproduct  of  divine  connection.  Just  recently,  I  read  this   article  where   hedge   fund  managers,   two   of   the  most   successful   hedge  fund   managers   in   the   world   equate   their   success   to   the   fact   that   they  meditate  every  day.  

 Edward:   Oh,  great.    Panache:   Right,  we've   got   all   these   tech   firms   –  Google,   Facebook,  we've   got  Twitter  

and   we've   got   all   these   tech   firms   that   spend   so   many   thousands   and  hundreds  of   thousands  of  dollars  to  bring  mindfulness   into  their  workplace  because  they  recognize  the  value  of  divine  connection  or  peace.  

    At  some  point,  our    priorities  need  to  shift  and  we  have  to  start  to  align  with  

the  most   important   thing  there   is  which   is  our  connection  to  our  spirit  and  our   soul   and   that   everything   in   our   life   is   a   byproduct   of   the   quality   and  clarity  of  that  connection.  Everything.  

 Edward:   Here's  a  question  for  you.  For  people  who  whether  they  have  just  been  there  

so  many   times   in  past   lifetimes  or   they   just  don't  want   to   really  hook   in   to  this   particular   life,   this   physical   reality,   if   the   most   important   thing   is  connection  to  spirit,  then  why  don't  we  all  just  go  off  into  an  ashram  or  a  cave  or  a  monastery  and  just  spend  all  our  time  meditating  and  in  prayer  and  in  contemplation?  How  do  we  bring  that  priority  to  connect  with  the  divine?  To  connect  with   spirit?   How   do  we   bring   that   into   this   physical   world   in   our  day-­‐to-­‐day  life?  

 Panache:   I   think  you  have   to  expand  your  definition  of   the  word   "spirit"  because   for  

me  everything   is   spirit.   In   fact,  ashrams  and  places   like   that   sometimes  are  some   of   the   least   spiritual   places.   So,   I   think   you   have   to   expand   your  definition   of   the   word   "spirit"   to   include   everything   in   every   moment  because  it  is  present  in  everything  in  every  moment.    

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It's   not   the   avoidance   of   life   but   it's   finding   that   conscious   connection   in  every  moment  of  life.  Otherwise,  what's  the  point?  If  you  just  experience  that  

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peace  and  serenity  for  20  minutes  every  morning,  well  then  what  about  the  23  hours  and  40  minutes  that  constitute  the  rest  of  your  day?  If  you  can  only  experience  that  connection  when  you're  off  in  an  ashram  somewhere  where  the  entire  environment  is  catered  towards  you  being  at  peace  whether  it  be  authentic  or  not,  well  then  how  does  that  translate?  It  doesn't.    The   bottom   line   is   this   is   about   living   and   demonstrating   spirit   in   every  moment   in   life.   In   life.   I   think   there's   been   a   lot   of   avoiding   of   life.   I   think  there's   been   a   lot   of   making   life   the   enemy   or   making   life   wrong   that's  happened.   For   me,   one   of   those   powerful   things   that   we   can   do   in   each  moment  is  just  bear  witness  to  our  breath,  just  to  witness  our  inhalation  and  exhalation  because  for  me  that's  transformed  my  life  into  a  living  meditation.  It's  not   just  going  away  and   living   in  a  bubble  but   it's  about  expanding  our  definition  of  God,  love,  oneness,  source,  whatever  it  is  that  you  want  to  call  it  to  include  all  things.      

Edward:   Hmm.   Beautiful,   beautiful.   Panache,   is   there   an   exercise   or   something   that  you'd   like   to   lead   us   through?   I   know   a   lot   of   people   here   would   love   to  experience  your  transmission  so  is  there  something  that  you  can  think  of  to  guide  us  through?  

 Panache:   Yeah,  just  close  your  eyes  and  just  open  your  palms  and  just  take  some  long,  

deep   cleansing   breaths.   And   we're   just   going   to   ask   this   greater   divine  presence  that  is  always  around  you,  that  just  loves  you  –  that  just  loves  you  in  every  moment  –   to   just  embrace  you  right  now  and   to  help   support  you   in  accepting  and  integrating  everything  that  you  have  judged  about  you.  

    The  truth  is  it's  both  aspects  of  you  that  make  you  lovable  and  adorable.  It's  

those  aspects  of  you  that  make  you  beautiful.  Sadness,  your  anger,  your  fear,  your   guilt,   your   shame,   your   jealousy,   your   envy,   all   of   those   cute   human  qualities  that  we  can  only  experience  in  this  dimensional  reality,  all  of  those  qualities  are  actually  what  make  you  so  endearing.    

    We're  just  going  to  hold  you  right  now  fully.  I'm  just  going  to  invite  the  tears  

to   come  and   the   fear   to   shake  out  and   the  anger   to   just  wash   through  you.  We're   just   going   to   ask   that   everything   that   you've   been   told,   all   the  conditioning  that  you  have  received  in  all  of  its  forms  just  be  lifted  off  of  you  so   that  we   can   get   back   to   the   simplicity   -­‐-­‐   the   simplicity   of   being.  We   can  come  back  to  a  place  of  connection.    

    We're   always   connected.   Everyone   is   connected   all   the   time.   Everyone   is  

worthy,  everyone  is  enough,  and  everybody  is  loved.  That  is  not  determined  by  a  human  being  for  that  is  ordained  by  God.    

    So,  we're   just   going   to   ask   you   to   come   into   harmony  with   yourself   and   a  

complete  and  total  embracing  of  all  that  you  are  right  now,  as  you  are  right  

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now   so   that   the   light   and   luminosity   that's   always   resided  within   you   can  begin   to  shine  through  you   into   this  world.  Authenticity   is   the  alignment  of  personality  and  spirit  so  we're  just  going  to  ask  for  a  complete  alignment  of  your  personality  and  soul.    

 [0:40:10]       I'm  just  going  to  ask  that  this  abundance,  this  internal  state  of  abundance  just  

make  itself  known  to  you  as  a  feeling.  Because  abundance  is  a  feeling  and  it's  an  ever  present  feeling  that  isn't  determined  by  your  external  circumstances.  Take  some  breaths  and   just  bring  your  awareness  back   to   them.   I'd   love   to  hear  what's  happening  in  people  and  what's  unfolding.  

 Edward:   Yeah,  I  would  love  to  hear.  If  you're  on  the  Yes  page,  go  ahead  and  just  type  

that   in.   Go   down,   scroll   down   to   the   comments   section,   click   "Add   a  comment"   and   share   and   I'll   read   some   of   the   –   some   folks   have   already  written  in  on  the  webcast.  I'll  share  some  of  those.  Let's  see.    

    Pita  again  says,  "Edward  and  Panache,   I  am  amazed  and  blessed.   I   love  you  

both.  Thank  you  for  encouraging  my  trust  and  acceptance  of  my  mighty  soul  self  which   is   scary   but   very   freeing."   And   I   did   pronounce   her   name   right.  That's  good.    

    Let's  see.  Anne  Marie  says,  "Thank  you,  Panache,  for  reminding  me  of  who  I  

am.   I   am   okay   right   now.   What   a   powerful   place   to   receive   and   give   to  others."   And   she   points   out   that   now   she   can   remind   them.   "I   can   remind  them  of  who  they  are."  Wonderful,  Anne  Marie.  

    Let  me  take  a  look  over  here.  As  I'm  looking  over  here,  talk  a  little  bit  about  

the   feeling   state   of   abundance   in   that   process.  What   are   some   of   the  ways  that  you  have  seen  people  tap  into  that  feeling  state  of  abundance?  What  are  some  of  the  feelings?  

 Panache:   And  here's   the   problem  because   again  we're   going   to   try   and   articulate   an  

experiential   state   in   words   so   we'll   do   the   best   that   we   can.   One   of   the  feelings   is   one   of   peace   like   you   just   feel   peaceful.   You   just   feel   peaceful  regardless   of   what's   happening   around   you   or   within   you.   When   you   can  accept  it,  you  feel  peaceful.  There's  a  quiet  there.  There's  a  calm  there.  There  is   a   deepening   that   happens   in   your   experience.   It's   like   everything   slows  down   a   little   bit.   It's   like   you're   fully   available   for   everything   that   is  happening.    

    For  me,  when  I  stay  in  this  state  of  experience  everything  just  becomes  light.  

That's  always  fine.    Edward:   Yeah,  yeah.  

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 Panache:   So,   it   translates   for   people   in   lots   of   different   ways   but   the   overarching  

feeling  is  peace.  When  we're  embodying  the  qualities  of  spirit,  we're  at  peace.  In   some   ways,   we   have   to   redefine   success.   Success   is   peace.   If   you're   at  peace  with  yourself,  then  you're  successful.  

 Edward:   Yeah.   I  can  say  I   love,   from  a  feeling  perspective,   this  description.   It's  really  

good.  Deanna  says,  "Feeling  a  huge  hug  from  the  divine.  Thank  you."    Panache:   Yeah.    Edward:   Yeah,  yeah.    Panache:   That's  been  one  of  the  greatest  joys  really  is  to  be  able  to  support  people  in  

having   the   experience.   Until   you   have   the   experience,   it's   not   true   for   you.  That's   true   about   everything   but   it's   especially   true   about   the   divine.  Most  people  haven't  experienced  what  the  divine  feels  like.  They  don't  know  what  that's  like.  They  don't  know  what  the  state  of  connection  is  like.  They  haven't  experienced  it  for  themselves  and  that's  where  I  have  been  so  blessed.  

 I  was  very  skeptical.  Being  Indian  and  growing  up  in  a  spiritual  environment,  I   got   to  meet   spiritual   teachers   that  were   really   embodying  what   they   said  they  are  embodying.  There  were  just  other  people  that  were  just  doing  it  for  fame  and  fortune  and  whatever  the  hell  else  they  were  doing  it  for.      

[0:45:15]    Edward:   Yeah.    Panache:   And  so  I've  seen  everything.  We've  got  a  5,000  year  old  cultural  tradition  of  

this   stuff   in   India  and  we've  seen   it  all.  And  so   for  me,   I  was  very  skeptical  and  so  when  everyone  starts  saying   to  me  “I  was  here   to  do   this  and   I  was  here  to  facilitate  consciousness,”  I  was  like,  you  know,  not  really.  That  is  not  what  I  want  to  do.  All  right.  

    Eventually,  I  got  to  a  point  where  I  said,  okay,  if  this  is  what  I  am  here  to  do,  

then  I  need  to  experience  it  because  if  I  don't  experience  it,  I'm  not  going  to  talk   about   it.   If   I   don't   experience   it,   then   I'm   not   just   going   to   be   another  person  that  sits  there  conjecturing  about  what  reality  is  and  what  the  divine  is   and   how  we   come   into   contact  with   ourselves.   The   blessing   is   that   that  experience  happened,  and   in   that  moment  of   that  experience  my  entire   life  made  sense  to  me  because  this  greater  energy  had  been  flowing  through  me  my  whole   life   and   it  had  been   impacting  people  my  whole   life   and   literally  that  emotional  clutter  that  they  have  been  holding  on  to.  

 

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  By  the  way,  it's  your  emotional  clutter  that  keeps  you  from  receiving,  simply  stated.   It's   your   emotional   clutter   that   fuels   your   thoughts   and   that   keeps  your  story  in  place.  In  the  absence  of  that  emotional  clutter,  everything  just  collapses.  It's  like  a  balloon  that  you  just  prick  with  a  pin  and  it  just  deflates.    

    It's  like  Eckhart  Tolle  talks  about  the  "pain  body."  Well,  what  we're  doing  is  

we're  actually  lovingly  dismantling  the  pain  body  -­‐-­‐    Edward:   Yes.    Panache:   -­‐-­‐  to  the  point  where  then  you  are  a  fully  embodied  soul.  That's  what  being  a  

Christed  being   is.  That's  what   the  whole   resurrection   thing   is   about.  That's  what's  happening  right  now.   It's  what   this  rebirthing   is.   It's  vibrational.   It's  people   coming   into   harmony   with   themselves   energetically   through   the  acceptance  of  who  they  are  as  they  are,  through  their  willingness  to  feel  and  be  vulnerable  and  be  courageous,  and  through  their  willingness  to  be  human  because  that  is  the  doorway  to  our  divinity,  our  humanity.    

 Edward:   Hmm.   Beautiful.   I   love   this   idea   of   popping   the   bubble   and   removing   or  

dissolving  or  just  allowing  that  emotional  clutter  to  get  out  of  the  way  so  that  we  can  experience  our  divinity.  

 Tons  of  comments  have  come  in.  I'm  not  going  to  go  through  them  all  but  just  so  many  good   things.   "Being   in   the  arms  of   the  divine,"   from  Gerty.  Angela  wanted  to  thank  you  for  when  she  said  you  "lifted  her  heart"  back  in  October  and   helped   her   with   abuse   and   she's   taken   a   course   from   you   and   she's  noticed  a  huge  change  and  so  does  everyone  else.  "Thank  you.  I  love  you."  

    Suzanne   says,   "A   split   second   of   deep   calm   and   then   life   rushes   in   again.  

Thank  you   for  helping  us   feel   the   seconds."  Nalini   feels   the  energy  and  her  heat  in  her  midriff  and  low  back,  focuses  on  her  breath  coming  from  a  place  of   connection  and  wholeness,  happy,   calm,  peaceful.  They  go  on  and  on.   So  many   wonderful   descriptions   and   experiences   and   I   love   that   they   are   all  different.   Everyone   is,   as   you   said,   having   that   personal   experience   of   the  divine  connection  in  their  own  way.    

    Ivar  says,  "Tear  is  a  feeling  of  relief.  I  am  okay.  I  am  divinity.  Peace  in  myself."  

Beautiful.   Such   beautiful   experiences   and   are   beautiful   articulations   of   the  experience  from  people.  Thank  you  so  much  for  sharing  that.    

    Panache,  we  need  to  shift  a  little  bit  here.  There  is  a  ton  of  people  with  their  

hands  up  who  would   like   to   talk   to  you.   I  don't  know   if  we'll  have   time   for  that   but   I   do  want   to   for   sure   tell   them   about   the   offer   that   you   have,   the  package  you  have  put  together  with  this  Igniting,  this  new  program  you  have,  Igniting  Boundless  Receiving.    

 

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  If  you're  on  the  Yes  page  and  you  want  to  click  on  that,  go  ahead  and  do  that.  If   you're   not   on   the   Yes   page   and   you   want   to   get   there,   you   can   type   in  theabundantmystic.com/panache   and   that   will   take   you   to   Panache's   offer  for  this  Igniting  Boundless  Receiving.  

    As  I  said,  Panache,  I  have  been  going  through  this  and  doing  the  daily  detox  

and   the   Slumber   into   Possibility,   nighttime   meditation   and   it's   really  powerful.  I'm  going  to  let  you  share  a  little  bit  more  about  the  program  and  then  I'll  share  a  little  bit  more  about  my  experience  with  it.  But  tell  us  a  little  bit  more  about  Igniting  Boundless  Receiving.  

 [0:50:06]    Panache:   Well,   ultimately,   it   addresses   that   –   it   comes   in   three  parts   really.  The   first  

part   is   that   Density   Detox   which   is   basically   taking   all   of   that   emotional  content  and  repress  then  suppress  then  shattering  it.  It's  deeply  cathartic.  It  will   trigger   everything   in   you   that   needs   to   come   up.   You   will   feel   your  sadness   and   your   anger   and   your   fear.   That's   what   it's   designed   to   do.  Detoxes  do  that.  They  draw  up  and  out  of  you  the  toxicity.    

    Now,  again,   there   isn't  a   judgment  around   these  emotional  experiences  but  

that   emotional   layer   is   what   enshrouds   the   spirit.   Instead   of   shifting   our  thoughts,  what  we're  going  to  do  is  change  our  energy  and  change  our  lives  and  that's  exactly  what   the   first  part  does.   It  helps  you  change  your  energy  because  emotions  are  energies  in  motion.  So,  it  opens  up  feeling.  It  opens  up  a  deep  catharsis.  You  will  literally  detox.  

    Then  the  second  part  of  it  is  exactly  what  we  talked  about  again  which  is  re-­‐

establishing  our  trust  and  connection  in  the  divine  and  in  ourselves  and  the  abundance  of  life.  And  then  the  third  part,  the  slumbering,  is  just  basically  an  integration   of   that   as   you   sleep   and   a   way   of   supporting   yourself   and  deepening   that   every   day.   It's   the   same   detox   you   do   every   day   but   it's  basically   a   33-­‐day   vibrational   solution.   It's   been   described   as   the   most  complete  vibrational  solution  ever  created.    

 And  I  warn  you,  if  you  want  to  remain  in  limitation  and  you  want  to  remain  in  lack  and  you  want  to  remain  in  your  stories,  then  don't  even  do  it.  Don't  do  it  because  the  very  second  you  touch  it,  you  come  into  contact  with  it,  it  comes  into  your  awareness,  you  will  have  no  choice  but  to  expand  into  the  fullness  of  who  you  are.    

    I   always   say   that   to   people   because   I   can't   undo   it.   There   is   no   refund   on  

awesomeness  and  magnificence.  And  I  say  that  because  people  fight  for  their  limitations   and   as   much   as   people   say   that   they   want   transformation,  sometimes   they   are   more   committed   in   that   moment   to   their   victimhood  than  they  are  to  actually  being  abundant.  

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    If  you  are  ready,  if  you're  100%  ready  and  you've  had  enough  of  life  as  it   is  

and  you've  tried  everything,  and  you  are  ready  to  finally  experience  the  truth,  then  check  it  out.  If  you're  not,  don't  go  anywhere  near  it.  

 Edward:   Yeah,  I  would  agree  with  that.  I  have  been  doing  this  in  the  morning  sessions.  

Well,   first,   the  breakthrough  session,   the  hour-­‐long  session  where  you   take  us  through  the  ideas  of  limitless  abundance  and  boundless  receiving  is  very  powerful.  There  are  two  guided  processes  in  that  that  really  –  it's  sort  of  like  the  catalyst  that  gets  everything  started.  

    The   morning   sessions,   the   Density   Detox,   it   really   is   very   interesting.   For  

anyone  who   has   done   a   diet   detox,   a   food   detox,   you'd   know   that   the   first  couple   of   days,   stuff   comes  up.   You   get   headaches,   you   get   achy,   you  don't  feel   so   good.   I   noticed   that   the   first   couple  of   times   I  did   this,   it   really  was  throwing   stuff   up.   it   was   spinning   things   out   and   then   it   started   to   get  smoother  and  smoother.  It  really  is  a  detox  and  it  is  a  powerful  process.  

    What   happens   if   someone   can't   listen   like   a   day   comes   up   and   they   can't  

listen   to   the   daily   detox?   Should   they   just   start  where   they   are   or   do   they  have  to  go  back  to  the  beginning?  How  does  it  work  for  the  33  days?  

 Panache:   Well,   the   detox   in   the   morning   is   probably   the   most   important   thing   that  

there   is.  Again,   it's   just   the   same  detox.   I  didn't  need   to   create  33  different  detoxes.   It's   just   the   one   I   created   the   first   time   around   was   the   most  powerful  and  so  you  listen  to  the  same  recording  every  day.  

    The  funny  thing  about  this  thing  is  that  even  if  you  listen  to  one  of  the  aspects  

alone   in  and  of   itself,   like  here's   the  thing,   if  you   just  detox,  you're  going  to  have   the   breakthrough.   If   you   just   restore   your   trust   in   the   universe,   in  yourself,  you're  going  to  have  a  shift  in  your  experience.    

    People  have  busy  lives  and  that's  why  I've  tried  to  make  it  as  easy  as  possible  

for  them  to  have  these  breakthroughs  and  to  embody  who  they  naturally  are.  It's  not  that  you  have  to  start  from  scratch  and  you  start  again  but,  like  with  all  things,  there's  a  consistency  and  a  commitment  that's  required.  

 Edward:   Right.    Panache:   It's  like  if  you  have  a  workout  regime.  If  you  don't  train  every  day,  you  fall  off  

the  wagon  and  when  you  train  after  a  week,  it's  like  you're  only  starting  over  again.   There's   a   consistency   and   a   commitment   that's   required.   Again,   this  will  deliver  and  all  that's  required  is  your  willingness  to  show  up  every  day  and  participate  full  out.    

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 Edward:   Well,   and   it's   wonderful   too.   I   have   to   say   that   for   the   Slumber   into  

Possibility,   I've   just   been   listening   to   it.   I've   put   it   on   my   phone   on   the  bedside   table   and   I   just   put   it   on.   I   haven't   actually   repeated   through   the  whole  30-­‐minute  thing  yet.  I  just  about  fall  asleep  about  halfway  through  but  imagine   I'm   still   getting   the   benefit   of   the   vibrational   transmission   even  when  I'm  asleep.  Probably  even  more  I  would  think.  

 Panache:   Yeah,   you   are   because   ultimately   this   is   all   about   energy   and   it's   all   about  

connecting   on   a   soul   level.   That   is   a  much   deeper   level   of   connection   than  most  people  are  even  aware  of.  I've  had  people  actually,  probably  guests  that  have  been  other  speakers  in  your  teleseminar  series.  They've  been  using  my  products  and  using  everything   that  we  have  created  and   in   turn  have  been  inspired  to  create  offshoots  of  everything  that  was  done  because  it's  been  so  effective.  It's  led  to  a  deepening  of  them  in  their  life  and  then  in  their  work.  You  can  go  to  my  website  and  read  some  of  the  testimonials.  You'll  see  some  faces  that  you  recognize.  

 Edward:   Yeah.    Panache:   That's  where   this   is   a  blessing   is   this  will   impact  you,  period,   regardless  of  

who  you  are  and  where  you  are  that  will  impact  you,  and  what's  required  is  just  your  willingness  and  your  openness.  That's  all.  We  are  receiving.  We're  always  connected.  But  there's  something  magical  about  the  journey.  I  always  say  to  people  just  give  up  the  destination.  Give  up  the  outcome.  Just  go  on  the  journey.  Just  go  on  the  journey  for  33  days  and  just  diligently  walk  the  path  for  33  days  and  just  see  what  opens  up  for  you.  

 Edward:   Yeah,   see  where  you  end  up.  One  other   thing,   you   just  mentioned   it  briefly  

but  I  have  found  that  this  is  an  equally  powerful  part  of  the  program.  This  is  33   days   of   inspirational   inquiry   and   these   are   33   different   recordings   that  you  have   created  where   there   are   about   five   to   seven  minutes  maybe.   You  just  kind  of  give  us  almost  like  an  awareness  of  the  day  where  you  give  us  a  question  or  something  to  ponder.  

    For  me,  what   it   does   is   it   shifts  my   attention   from   the  habitual   patterns  of  

looking  at  things  from  the  lens  of  doing  and  running  around  and  stress,  and  it  shifts   the   focus   to   where   I   feel   like   I   am   moving   through   my   day   and  perceiving   an   inner   state   of   awareness   that's   keeping   me   focused   on  abundance,   on   my   connection   with   the   divine.   That   for   me   is   a   really  important  part  of  this  program  along  with  all  the  other  stuff.  But  having  that  perceptual  shift  is  really  important.  Talk  a  little  bit  more  about  that  piece.  

 Panache:   Well,  you  know,  when  you  have  a  focus  for  the  day  or  a  lens  through  which  to  

view  your  life,  it  allows  you  to  see  where  you  are  at  and  what's  going  on  and  it  also  allows  you  to  bring  up  everything  in  you  that's  not  in  alignment  with  

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that   intention.   If   the   intention   is   abundance,   then  naturally   you're   going   to  feel  everything  inside  of  you  that  is  out  of  alignment  with  that  intention  that  you  have  to  experience.    

    It's  a  great  way  to  come  into  harmony  and  it's  a  great  way  to  live  your  life  to  

have  an  inquiry  through  which  you  experience  your  reality  every  day  and  to  do  that  for  33  days.  Because  then  it's  almost  like  your  reality  bends.  It's  like  your  experiences  bend   to  meet   you   in   that  place.  Again,   it   establishes  your  trust,   it   establishes   your   connection,   it   establishes   all   that   you   are.   It's  phenomenal.  It's  just  incredible  in  how  it  works.  

    The   inquiry   in   and   of   itself   is   again   just   something   that   –   because   I   don't  

share  a  technique  or  a  modality  because  I   just   find  them  inherently   limited.  They  are  a  good  starting  point  but   they  are   inherently   limited   in  what   they  offer   because   they   are   a   part   of   somebody's   belief   system   and   has   been  created   by   somebody   and   they   have   their   own   parameters   and   walls   and  there   are   certain   rules   and   regulations   inherently   embedded   in   all   of   that  that  most  people  will  never  know  about  that  often  when  you  come  into  too  much  awareness  around  you'll  naturally  evolve  out  of  it  anyway.  

    So,   for   me   it   was   never   about   technique   or   modality   but   it   was   about   a  

spontaneous   expression,   and   everything   that's   here   is   created   just   out   of   a  spontaneous   expression   to   bring   people   into   abundance.   Again,   abundance  isn't   money.   The   end   result   is   not   your   bank   balance.   The   end   result   is  accessing  your  soul  and  living  in  connection  with  your  soul,  allowing  you  to  then   experience   the   side   effect   of   that  which   is   everything   that   your   heart  desires.  

 [1:00:10]    Edward:   Hmm.  Beautiful.  One  of   the   things  about   this   is,   I   haven't   gone   through   the  

whole  33  days  but  it  feels  to  me  like  I  can  just  circle  back  around  once  I  get  through   the   first   round.   Come   back   through   it   again,   do   the   detox   again   –  maybe  not  immediately  but  pretty  soon  after,  do  the  detox  again  and  then  do  the  inspirational  inquiry  again  from  a  totally  different  place,  going  through  it  a  second  time.  

 Panache:   Well,  yeah.  Every  time  we  come  back  to  it,  we  evolve.  You  never  come  back  to  

something  from  the  same  place  and  that's   the  blessing  of   this   too.   It's   like  I  wanted  everything  to  be  evergreen  so  that  people  can  continue  to  expand.  A  lot   of   things   that   are   created   is   static   and   I   wanted   a   dynamic   solution.   A  dynamic  solution   is  a  vibrational  solution.  That's   the  only  dynamic  solution  there  is.    

 Energy,   frequency,   opening   up   to   experiencing   emotional   and   dynamic  solution  is  something  that  you  can  do  every  day.  You  brush  your  teeth  every  

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day,  why  wouldn't  you  address  your  stress  or  your  emotional  content  every  day  in  the  same  way?  Of  course,  you  would.  It's  just  that  we  don't  receive  that  training  in  school.      We  don't  have  the  same  value  on  our  internal  state  as  we  do  on  our  external  experience.   It's   like   if   you   didn't   shower   for   a   week,   you   better   believe  somebody  would  tell  you.  But  if  you  don't  do  your  internal,  if  you  don't  deal  with  what  you  have  going  on  inside  of  you,  no  one's  even  going  to  know.  The  only  person  who's  going  to  know  is  you.      This   is   where   inner   integrity   and   authenticity   are   important   because   you  have  to  want  this  for  yourself.  You  have  to  want  it  for  yourself.  You  have  to  want  it.  You  have  to  want  to  experience  your  connection  more  than  anything  else.    

Edward:   Wow.  Beautiful,  Panache.   I'm  just  going  to  read  a  couple  of  the  testimonials  on  this  program.  From  Terri,  she  wrote,  "Wow  -­‐-­‐  you  have  blessed  us  again  -­‐-­‐  palpable   presence   throughout   -­‐-­‐   walls   tumbling   down   -­‐-­‐   inner   children  acknowledged  and  known  and  blessed  -­‐-­‐  thank  you."  

    Rita  writes,  "What  an  experience!!!   I  need  new  language  to  be  able  to  share  

what  I  just  experienced!!!  From  my  heart  and  soul,  thank  you."       Gosh,   there's   a   ton   of   them   on   the   page.   If   you   go   to  

theabundantmystic.com/panache,  you  can  find  out  more  about  the  33  days,  the   Igniting   Boundless   Receiving   that   Panache   has   put   together   for   this  program.   It's   very,   very   powerful.   I'm   going   through   it   now   and   really   can  attest   to   the   changes.  The   transformation,   the   transmission,   the  vibrational  transformation  that  is  embedded  in  this  program  is  powerful  so  check  it  out  at  theabundantmystic.com/panache.    

    Panache,  we  have  a  ton  of  questions.  Do  you  have  a  little  more  time  to  stay  on  

and  take  a  few  questions?    Panache:   Yes,  a  couple  of  minutes.  Yeah,  let's  do  it.    Edward:   Awesome.  Let's  go  ahead  and  take   this  person  that's  had  her  hand  up   for  a  

long  time.  From  Hartford,  looks  like  Wisconsin.  Hartford,  Wisconsin.  Give  us  your  name.  You're  on  the  line  with  Panache.  

 Bonnie:   Oh,  my  goodness.  This  is  Bonnie.      Edward:   Hi,  Bonnie.    Bonnie:   Hi!  Hi,  Panache.    

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Panache:   Hi.    Bonnie:   Gosh.  I  wanted  to  ask  you  –    Edward:   Bonnie,  I'm  just  going  to  interrupt  you  here.  We've  got  a  lot  of  people  on  the  

phone  so  the  more  concise  you  can  make  your  question,  the  better.  Panache  can   feel   into   it   vibrationally   so  we  don't  need  a   lot  of   story  behind   it   so   as  clear  and  quickly  and  concisely  as  you  can  get   to   the  point  so   that  Panache  can  speak  with  you.  

 Bonnie:   Okay.    Edward:   Okay,  go  ahead.    Bonnie:   I  have  been  extremely  shy  and  agoraphobic  as  a  child  and  sensitive,  and  at  

the  age  of  22   I  had  awareness  of   that  pure   love.  There  was  no  better  good.  There  was  no  wrong  or  right.  And  then  I  was  threatened  by  my  family  after  this   experience   to  be  put   in   an   institution  unless   I   started   acting   like   them  and  set  aside  and  deny  my  spirit.  I'm  in  my  60s  now  and  I  want  that  so  bad  to  be,  you  know,  to  act  with  my  spirit  in  the  oneness  in  all  that  I  have  seen  and  experienced  when  I  was  22.  

 Panache:   Well,   the   first   thing   is   that   we're   always   connected   to   our   spirit.   It's  

absolutely  impossible  to  not  be  connected  to  our  spirit.  That's  the  first  thing.  People   are   searching   for   a   connection   or   a   connectivity   that   they   already  have.  What  happened  here  is  obviously  there's  a   lot  of  fear  around  living  in  that   space,   a   lot   of   rejection   and   abandonment   and   it's   exactly  what  we're  talking  about.  

 [1:05:12]       The  first  thing  that  needs  to  happen  here  is  we  need  to  detox  the  emotional  

clutter.  Just  take  some  breaths,  just  relax  and  just  receive.  In  every  instance,  in  hundreds  of  thousands  of  people  that  I've  had  the  honor  of  working  with,  every  time  we  have  that  something  gone  in  their  lives,  when  we  trace  it  back  we   find   something   on   an   emotional   level   that   hasn't   been   felt   through   to  completion,  every  single  time.  

    Just   breathe   and   just   relax   and   just   allow   all   of   that   emotional   content,   60  

years  of  denying  your  true  self,  to  just  wash  through  you.  Okay.  Can  you  just  describe  to  us  what's  happening  in  your  body  real  quick?  I  know  we've  gone  off  course.  What's  going  on  inside  of  you?  

 Bonnie:   Through  my  whole  body,  I'm  feeling  a  lot  of  warmth.    

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Panache:   Yeah,  good.  Keep  breathing  and  keep  articulating  what's  happening   in  your  body.  

 Bonnie:   It's  just  a  lot  of  warmth  through  my  whole  body.    Panache:   Good,  so  that  warmth  is  basically  just  love.  It's  just  love  and  acceptance.  It's  

that  divine  realm  of   love  being  remembered   inside  of  you.   Just  stay  with   it.  Just  continue   to  be  with   it  and  receive  and   just  know  that   the  oneness   that  you  are  will  be  fully  remembered.  Thank  you  for  your  call.  

 Edward:   Thank  you,  Bonnie.  Appreciate  you  sharing  that.  Difficult  to  share,  I'm  sure.         There's   someone   calling   from   Leominster,   Mass.   What's   your   name   and  

you're  here  with  Panache.    Gloria:   Hi.  Thank  you.  My  name  is  Gloria.  Thank  you,  Panache.  Thank  you.  I  seem  to  

like,  I  don't  know,  I  drop.  I  seem  to  connect  and  then  –  like  I  woke  up  during  the  night  last  night  just  like  I  was  laid  all  over  the  place.  I  know  it's  emotional  and   I  know  I   judge  myself  and   I  don't  want   to  but   it's   there.  Can  you  guide  me?  Because  I  don't  want  to  hurt  myself.    

 Panache:   Well,  yeah,  but  you've  –  the  funny  thing  is,  in  asking  me  the  question,  you've  

delivered  the  answer.      Gloria:   I  did?    Panache:   Yeah,  and  you've  also  came  up  with  what's  going  on  which  is  judgment.  The  

funny  thing  is  that  love  is  all  inclusive,  right?  If  someone  doesn't  love  you  all  inclusively,   you're   not   being   loved.   You're   being   cooed   and   shit   upon   and  there's  nothing  worse  than  being  shit  upon  your  whole  life.  

    So,   love   is   all   inclusive.   God   is   all   inclusive.   So,   how   about   you   have   an   all  

inclusive  relationship  with  yourself?    Edward:   Sorry,  I  actually  just  –  let  me  get  her  back.    Panache:   And   then   of   course   you   disconnected   the   call.   Beautiful.   Perfect.   Keep  

breathing.  Don't  worry,  we  don't  need  to  get  her  back.  Keep  breathing.    Edward:   No,  she's  back.    Panache:   Oh,  she's  back?    Edward:   Yeah.  Keep  breathing.    

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Panache:   So,   the   solution   is   be   inclusive,   is   to   be   inclusive.   We're   not   inclusive   of  ourselves.  We  have   fragmented  ourselves,   right?  We've  qualified  ourselves.  It's  a  hierarchy  of  who  we  are.   I  have  no  problem  being  who   I  am.  And   the  funny  thing  is   it's  not  always  about  being  happy  and  joyful.   It's  about  being  whatever  you  are  feeling  in  any  given  moment  and  being  at  peace  with  that.  That's  freedom.  

 Gloria:   Okay.      Panache:   So,  accept  yourself  because  the  divineness  is  judging  you  so  then  why  are  you  

giving   yourself   such   a   hard   time?   Yeah.   Just   accept   yourself.   You're   okay.  You're  all  right.  Just  accept  yourself.  

 Edward:   Thank  you,  Gloria.  That  feels  like  such  a  –  I  mean  regardless  of  where  we  are,  

wherever  we  are,  there  is  always  that  tendency  to  judge  ourselves,  to  make  ourselves  not  enough,  not  good  enough,  we  don't  have  enough.  A   lot  of   the  questions  coming  in  are  about  "I  don't  have  enough,"  "I  don't  have  something  I  need."  It  may  be  a  general  question  about  how  to  get  okay  with  where  we  are  and  who  we  are.  

 Panache:   To  me,  here's  the  thing,  how  are  you  evaluating  that?  Based  on  a  man-­‐made  

criteria  or  based  on  a  no  criteria  that  the  divine  has?    Edward:   Hmm.    Panache:   Right  now,  you're  evaluating  your  life  based  on  a  man-­‐made  criteria  instead  

of  evaluating  your  life  based  on  the  absence  of  criteria  that  the  divine  has  in  its  love  for  you.  You  are  never  going  to  live  up  to  the  man-­‐made  criteria.  The  man-­‐made  criteria   is  why  you  are   suffering  when   the  divine,   in   its   love   for  you,  has  no  criteria,  has  no  agenda,  has  no  outcome.    

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account,   I'm   going   to   love   you."   That's   a   man-­‐made   criteria.   We're   being  asked  to  forego  man-­‐made  criteria.  We're  being  asked  to  forego  all  of  that.  All  of  these  things  that  we've  been  told  that  we  need  to  do,  we're  being  asked  to  forego  all  of  that  and  just  return  to  love  because  it's  really  simple.  

    Right  now,  wherever  you  are,  whatever  part  of  the  world  that  you  live  in,  that  

being  that  created  you  loves  you.  Period.  And  there  are  no  exceptions.  None.  None.  God's  love  for  you  is  not  conditional  like  Santa  Claus's.  

 Edward:   He's  not  keeping  a  list  and  checking  if  we've  been  naughty  or  nice?    

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Panache:   That's   right.   And   he's   not   going   to   send   you   coal   because   you're   doing   it  incorrectly  in  the  mail.  

 Edward:   Right.    Panache:   Santa   Claus's   love   is   conditional.   God's   love   is   unconditional.  Man's   love   is  

conditional.  The  divine's  love  is  absolute  and  all  inclusive.  I  know  which  one  I'd  rather  have.  Which  one  would  you  rather  have?  

 Edward:   Yeah,  the  divine,  unconditional  love.      Panache:   There  you  go.    Edward:   And  it  feels  like  part  of  -­‐-­‐  they  say  that  give  more  of  what  you  want  to  receive  

so  –    Panache:   Nonsense.    Edward:   Nonsense,  huh?  So,  giving  unconditional  love  doesn't  help  to  receive  –    Panache:   See,  the  funny  thing  is  a  lot  of  these  people  that  are  giving  unconditional  love  

don't   unconditionally   love   themselves   so   what   the   bloody   hell   are   they  sharing?   And   herein   lies   the   problem,   right?   Give   love.   But   it's   not   about  giving   love,   it's   about   loving   yourself.   If   you   are   fully   loving   yourself,   then  naturally  that  love  is  emanating  from  you  without  you  even  trying.    

 Edward:   So,   this   idea  of  giving   love,  you're   saying   that   it's  not  about  giving   love,   it's  

about  –    Panache:   Of  course  not.    Edward:   Hmm.    Panache:   It's  about  being  loved.      Edward:   Hmm.  There  you  go.  That's  beautiful.    Panache:   It's  not  about  giving.  It's  about  being  loved.  You  know,  this  whole  abundance  

thing,  be  abundant.  It's  a  state  of  being.  Be  abundant.  Be  love.  Just  embody  it.  The  whole  world  will  come  knocking  at  your  door.  

 Edward:   There's  a  real  resonance  of  truth  in  that,  Panache.  For  spiritual  people,  from  

mystical   people,   there   is   often   a   belief   that   wanting   more   for   themselves,  whether   it's   love,  whether   it's   abundance,  whether   it's  money,  whether   it's  whatever,   feels   selfish  and   this  belief  or   this  perception,   this   idea   that   they  need  to  be  giving  and  they  need  to  be  serving,  that  they  need  to  be  doing  to  

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help  other  people  and  not  to  want  things  for  themselves  is  selfish.  How  do  we  shift  out  of  that  place  of  feeling  that  it's  selfish  to  love  ourselves?  

 Panache:   Because  you're  the  only  thing  in  all  of  creation  so  if  it's  selfish  for  you  to  love  

you,  then  you're  denying  everything  you  love.      Edward:   Hmm.    Panache:   Again,   life,   all   of   this   that   you're   seeing  and  you're  experiencing,   all   of   this,  

everything  –  me,  this  call,  all  of  it  –  is  happening  for  you.  But  there  is  only  one  being   experiencing   itself   in   7.2   billion   different   ways.   So,   actually,   loving  yourself   is   the   most   unselfish   thing   you   could   ever   do   because   in   loving  yourself,  you're  loving  everyone.  You're  loving  all  of  creation.    

    What   we   have   done   is   we've   externalized   it   all.   You   know,   I   have   to   love  

another   person   in   order   to   love   myself.   No,   you're   just   co-­‐dependent  basically   is  what  you  are.  Let  me  call   it  what   it   is.  You  have  a  co-­‐dependent  relationship  with  love,  right?  Or  I  have  to  go  through  another  person  to  get  to  God.  Well,  then  you  have  a  co-­‐dependent  relationship  with  God.  

    The  bottom  line  is  if  you  love  you,  you're  loving  everybody.  Period.  You  fully  

loving  and  embracing  you  sets  everybody  free.  That's  how  powerful  this  is.      Edward:   Wow.  Well,  that  certainly  shifts  the  perspective  on  selfishness  and  –    Panache:   Well,   because   you   have   a   conversation,   the   other   conversation,   just  

inherently   implies   that  you're   fundamentally  unworthy   in  who  you  are  and  that  you're  broken.  It's  almost  like  you're  trying  to  buy  your  way  into  grace  by  performing  good  acts  outside  of  you  so  that  God  will   love  you.  God's  not  judging   you.   You   don't   have   to   buy   your   way   into   grace.   Grace   is   always  present.  Just  receive  the  grace  that  is  always  present.  

 [1:15:02]    Edward:   Oh,  I  love  that.  You  don't  have  to  buy  your  way  into  grace.  That's  often  what  it  

feels  like.    Panache:   Because   a   lot   of   this   loving   other   people   and   being   kind   to   other   people,  

when   it's   done   in   the   spiritual   context,   is   completely   inauthentic.   "Oh,   how  are   you?   Namaste.   I   see   the   light   in   you."   It's   not   authentic.   It's   not   real.  You're   not   really   experiencing   that.   You're   just   a   persona.   It's   another  identity.  Because  the  identity  that  you  have  you  believe  is  inadequate  in  some  way  and  so  you  create  another  identity.  You  walk  around  in  this  kind  of,  yeah,  it's  love  everything.  Yeah,  yeah.  Nonsense.  

 

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Edward:   Well,  isn't  there  something  to  be  said  for  wanting  to  be  nice?  It's  almost  like  the  acting  as  if,  you  know,  being  in  that  space  and  being  –  

 Panache:   How  is  that  working?    Edward:   Well,  I  don't  know.  For  some  people,  it  works.  There  is  something  to  be  said  –    Panache:   There's  something  to  be  said,  it  doesn't  work.    Edward:   So,  you're  saying  be  a  jerk  to  people  until  you  know  God?    Panache:   No,  what  I'm  saying  is  if  you're  a  jerk  then  embrace  the  fact  that  you're  a  jerk  

and  then  feel  everything  inside  of  you  that  keeps  you  being  a  jerk.      Edward:   So,  be  authentic.  Be  real.    Panache:   Don't  deny  the  fact  that  you're  a  jerk  and  walk  around  with  a  Namaste.  Then  

you're  just  a  jerk  with  a  fake  Namaste  and  the  only  person  you  are  jerking  off  is  you  then,  nobody  else.  

 Edward:   Uh-­‐huh.    Panache:   So,  be  honest.  We're  all  selfish.  We're  all  entitled.  We're  all  arrogant.  We're  all  

opinionated.   We're   all   judgmental.   We're   all   everything   because   we're   all  human.  And  it's  not  about  overcoming  those  aspects  of  ourselves,   it's  about  embracing  them  as  a  part  of  ourselves.  Then  we  are  free.    

 So,   don't  walk   around,   "Oh,   yeah.  Well,   nice   to   see  you.  You're   fantastic."   If  you're  a   jerk,   just  be  a   jerk.  I'll  respect  you  more  if  you're  a   jerk  and  you're  being  a  jerk  in  my  presence  than  if  you  walk  around  in  some  fake  bubble  of  spirituality  pretending   in   some  way   that   you're  better   than  everybody  else  because   your   vibration   is   higher   or   because   you're   awesome   and   doesn't  stink.  

 Edward:   Yeah.   Obviously,   we   all   get   in   moods.   We   all   go   up   and   down.   We   have  

sadness.  We  have  anger.  No  one's  a  jerk  all  the  time.  At  least,  no  one  that  I've  -­‐-­‐  

 Panache:   Of  course  not.      Edward:   No  one  I've  met.  So,  this  idea  that  it's  more  spiritual  to  be  peaceful  even  when  

we   are   feeling   sadness,   anger,   whatever,   I   mean   how   do   you   encourage  people  to  express  what's  real  for  them?  

 Panache:   When  you  are  being  a  jerk,  if  you  can  actually  authentically  embrace  being  a  

jerk,  is  there  a  problem?  No,  there  isn't.  When  you're  being  judgmental,  if  you  

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can   actually   authentically   just   embrace   in   that   moment   that   you   are  judgmental,  is  there  a  problem?  When  you're  sad,  if  you  can  just  authentically  embrace  the  fact  that  you're  feeling  sad,  is  there  a  problem?  

    Being  human  is  not  the  problem.  It's  our  lack  of  acceptance  of  our  humanity  

that's  the   issue.  That's  why  we  are  suffering  because   in  some  way  we  think  we  should  have  transcended  all  these  qualities  and  we  shouldn't  be  feeling  all  these   things  anymore  and  we're  supposed  to  walk  around   in   this  bubble  of  love   and   light.   That's   completely   inauthentic   and   unsustainable.   No.   Feel  what  there  is  to  feel.  Be  available  for  what's  going  on  inside  of  you.  Be  real.  Be  honest  with  yourself.    

 Edward:   And  with  others  around  you.    Panache:   Yeah,   but   if   you're   honest   with   yourself,   then   automatically   you're   honest  

with   everyone   around   you;   automatically   because   you   haven’t   got   it  anymore.   Here's   the   funny   thing.   Everyone   is   like   that.   So,   who   are   you  performing  for?    

    So,   liberation   is   a   complete   acceptance   of   ourselves   as   we   are   in   each  

moment   regardless   of   how   we   are   showing   up   regardless   of   how   we   are  showing   up.   And   here's   why   that's   important.   Acceptance   brings   you   into  allowing.  Acceptance  brings   you   into   allowing.   You're   allowing  whatever   is  occurring   in   each   moment.   The   acceptance   of   what   is   brings   you   into  allowing  whatever  is  occurring  in  each  moment  and  then  that  brings  you  into  receiving.  

 Edward:     Hmm.    Panache:   In  fact,  I  wish  that  more  people  were  just  jerks  and  while  they  are  being  jerks,  

they  could  actually  just  embrace  the  fact  that  they  were  being  a  jerk  and  get  to   the   underlying   sadness   or   anger   or   fear   or   pain   that   is   underneath   that  behavior.  The  more  people  experience  the  underlying  energy  to  keep  them  in  that  behavior,  the  more  that  behavior  collapses.    

 [1:20:00]    Edward:   I  know  we're  running  really  late  but  this  is  such  rich,  fertile  stuff.  Speak  to  the  

fear  that  people  have  that  is  there  in  anger  or  fear  or  sadness  or  grief  or  any  of  those  "negative  emotions"  that  they  –  yeah,  go  ahead.    

 Panache:   You  just  said  it.  Negative  emotions.      Edward:   Right.    Panache:   That's  the  problem.  

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 Edward:   Well,   there's   this   belief   in   the   law   of   attraction   in   the   spiritual   community  

that   if  you're   in   those  emotions,   that   if  you  stay   in   those  emotions  that  you  are  not  attracting,  that  you  are  attracting  more  of  what  you  don't  want.  

 Panache:   And   that's   the   problem.   That   in   and   of   itself   is   the   problem.   If   you   haven't  

experienced  your  rage,  you  can't  authentically  love  another  person.  Period.  If  you  haven't  sat  in  the  depths  of  your  depression  and  your  despair,  then  you  can't  love  another  person.  You  have  to  be  willing  to  go  to  every  aspect  of  you  in  order  to  authentically  be  able  to  meet  another  person  in  all  that  they  are.  

    This   is  where   the   law  of  attraction   is  completely   incomplete  because   it  had  

people   under   the   assumption,   first   of   all,   that   their   thoughts  were   creating  their  reality,  about  to  let  you  all  off  the  hook.  God  is  not  that  stupid.  You  think  absolute   nonsense.   But   most   of   you   think   absolute   nonsense   in   any   given  moment.   Just   imagine   right   now   if   everyone   in   this   call   thought   to  themselves,  "I  wish  I  was  dead."  That  would  be  the  end  of  the  call.  Thank  God  our  thoughts  don't  create  reality.    

 We  live  in  a  feeling-­‐based  universe  right  now.  A  feeling-­‐based  universe  again  is   all   inclusive.   You   cannot   authentically   sustain   harmony   while   you   are  invalidating   an   entire   spectrum  of   feeling   by   calling   the   negative.   They   are  not  negative.  They  are  just  energy.  They  are  just  experiences.  We  have  to  stop  the  judgment  of  them  and  we  have  to  stop  the  labeling  of  them.    When  I'm  sad,  I  love  being  sad.  I  love  being  –  sadness  is  a  great  emotion.  It's  a  fantastic   emotion.   It's   salty  water   streaming  down  my   face  and   I'm  making  out   whatever   meaning   I   want   around   that   salty   water.   Fear   is   a   great  emotion.  Anger  is  a  great  emotion.  As  far  as  I'm  concerned,  sadness  and  fear  and  anger  are  no  better  –  they  are  not  any  less  than  joy  and  happiness  and  all  the  other.  It's  all  just  an  experience.  It's  the  mind's  feeble  attempt  to  quantify  and  understand  and  compartmentalize  experience.      But  what   if   there  were  no   labels?   If   there  was  no   judgment,  would  we  ever  have  a  problem  feeling?    

Edward:   No,  we  would  just  feel  what  you're  feeling.    Panache:   Right,  and  then  what  would  our  vibrational  state  be  like?  If  we  lived  in  a  state  of         perpetual  acceptance,  what  would  our  vibrational  state  be  like?    Edward:   It's   interesting   because   our   vibrational   state  would   be   clear   and   clean   and  

open  and  high  and  the  emotions  would  just  be  coming  and  going.    

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Panache:   Thank  you.  And  then  let's  say  that  we're  in  a  vibrational  universe  and  that's  your  personal  frequency,  what  frequency  do  you  think  you'd  be  emitting  out  into  your  greater  reality?  

 Edward:   You'd  be  emitting  a   frequency  of  acceptance,  of  gratitude  probably.  Love.   It  

would  be  a  high  frequency.    Panache:   Thank   you.   Accept,   allow,   receive.   The   Secret's   blueprint   was   ask,   believe,  

receive.  Therein  lies  the  problem.  There  is  no  belief  required.  They  examined  creation   on   a   mental   level,   not   on   a   vibrational   level.   And   every   ancient  mystical  tradition  knows  and  knew  and  kept  secret  the  vibrational  nature  of  our  reality.  This  information  has  never  been  shared  in  public.  It  is  not  shared  in  public.  It  is  now  being  shared  in  public  because  people  are  ready  to  receive  it.    

 Allow.  Allow  and  receive.  Allow  and  receive.  Allow  and  receive.  Accept,  allow  and  receive.  Accept,  allow  and  receive.  We  are  rewriting  the  entire  formula  of  the  transformation  because  the  existing  one  doesn't  work.    

Edward:   Wow.  All   right,  Panache,   that   is  quite  a  powerful  way   to  end   this  call.   I   feel  like  we  could  keep  going  but  we've  kept  you  on  here  a  half  hour  longer  and  so   appreciate   you   taking   the   time.   I   just   want   to   let   people   know   accept,  allow,   receive   and   that's   a   lot   of  what   is   going   to   be   happening  when   they  start   working   with   the   Igniting   Boundless   Receiving   program.   They   can  check  that  out  at  theabundantmystic.com/panache.  If  you're  on  the  Yes  page,  just   click   on   the   special   offer   link   there   to   get   the   Igniting   Boundless  Receiving  program  from  Panache.  Accept,  allow,  receive.  

 [1:25:16]       Panache,  wow,  thank  you,   thank  you,   thank  you  so  much.  That  was  a  doozy  

but  do  you  have  any  last  words  you  want  to  leave  us  with  before  we  end  the  call  for  today?  

 Panache:   Yeah,  don't  take  my  word  for  it.  Experience  it.    Edward:   Yes.    Panache:   Don't  believe  a  single  word  I  have  said.  I  want  you  to  experience  it  and  prove  

it  to  yourself  as  the  truth.  And  you  know  what?  You  will.    Edward:   Yeah.    Panache:   So,  thank  you.    

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Edward:   Thank   you,   Panache.   I   have   a   feeling   a   lot   of   people   have   experienced   it  already  on  this  call.  There  are  so  many  comments  that  I  haven't  even  started  to  scratch  the  surface.  Panache,  thank  you,  thank  you  so  much.  It   is  such  an  honor  and  pleasure  to  have  you  here  with  us  on  the  Abundant  Mystic  today.    

 Panache:   Thank   you.   It's   been   great   being   with   you   all.   Keep   on   rocking   your  

awesomeness.    Edward:   Hmm.  Thank  you.  All  right,  people.  Wow.  Panache  did  not  let  us  down.  In  fact,  

he  lifted  us  up  high,  high,  high.  And,  gosh,  what  a  treasure  trove  of   insights.  What   an   incredible   transmission   of   energy   of   unconditional   love.   Accept,  allow,  receive.  No  belief  required.  What  a  different  way  of  looking  at  things.    

    I  have   to  say   I   love   that  Panache  didn't   let  me  get  away  with   things  and  he  

called  me  on   things  when   I  was   asking  questions   that  were  heading   in   the  wrong  direction.  I  love  that  he's  so  connected  that  he  is  willing  to  just  bring  us  right   to  the  heart  of   the  truth  of  what   is  going  to  allow  us  to  receive  the  abundance  that  is  our  birthright.  

    As   I   said,   I   have   been   going   through   the   Igniting   Boundless   Receiving  

program.  It  is  a  powerful,  dynamic  vibrational  solution.  I  highly  recommend  you  check  it  out  at  theabundantmystic.com/panache.  

    All  right.  It  has  been  another  amazing  week  here.  We  are  through  with  week  

six.   Four  more   to   go.   Next  week,  we   just   have   one   session   and   that   is   Bill  Bauman  who  I  just  love,  love,  love,  love,  love.  He  has  been  a  mentor  to  many,  many   of   the   high   level   people  who   you   know   including  Marci   Shimoff   and  others.  He's  a  wonderful  –  talk  about  unconditional  love.  If  you  want  a  taste  of   unconditional   love,   be   sure   to   be   here   with   us   next   Tuesday   for   Bill  Bauman.  

    Until   then,  we've  got   the  replays  up.  Panache's   replay  will  be  available   in  a  

couple   of   hours.   You   can   get   that   on   the   replay   page,  theabundantmystic.com/replay.   Anodea   Judith   and   Dawson   Church,   their  replays  are  available  up  there  as  well.  

    All  right,  I  thank  you  so  much  for  being  here  with  us  today.  Love  you  so  much  

and   really   so,   so,   so   want   to   thank   you   for   being   part   of   this   collective  creation   of   the   field   of   abundance   that   we   are   expanding   and   growing  together.  Thank  you,  thank  you,  thank  you.  Until  next  week.  Continue  on  your  journey   into  true  abundance.   I  will   talk  to  you  again  very  soon.  Bye-­‐bye  for  now,  everyone.  

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