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The Federal Debt: How Bad is It? Douglas J. Young Professor Emeritus Montana State University November, 2015

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Page 1: The Federal Debt: How Bad is It? and Deficits November...1. The US government debt is not now at dangerous levels 2. A continuation of current policies for several decades is very

The Federal Debt: How Bad is It?

Douglas J. Young

Professor Emeritus

Montana State University

November, 2015

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The Federal Debt

1. Definitions and History

2. How Much is “Too Much?”

3. The Long Term Outlook

4. What Can be Done

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1. Definitions

• Deficit = Outlays – Receipts

– Usually, per year

– “The Federal Government’s Deficit in 2015 was $439 Billion.”

• Debt = Accumulation over time of Deficits less Surpluses

– At a point in time

– “The Federal Government’s Debt on September 30, 2015 was $18.2 Trillion.”

3http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/mspd/2015/opds092015.pdf

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The Debt – How Big is It?

• Federal Debt $18.2 Trillion (9/30/15)

• Non-Financial Corporate Business (6/30/15)

– Debt = $16.6 Trillion

– Assets = $38.1 Trillion

• Households + Nonprofit Sector (6/30/15)

– Debt = $14.3 Trillion

– Assets = $99.9 Trillion

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US Department of Treasury and Federal Reserve

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Ownership of Federal DebtTrillions of Dollars – June 30, 2015

7US Treasury Bulletin September, 2015

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Federal DebtAs a % of Income (GDP)

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2. How Much Debt is “Too Much?”

• When lenders worry that the country won’t be willing and/or able to pay it back, and as a result …

• Interest rates rise to compensate lenders for:

– Default Risk and/or

– Inflation Risk9

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When Lenders Lose Faith …

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When Lenders Lose Faith … Update

29.9%

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1.4% 1.7%

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As of June 1, 2015…

• The US Government Debt is NOT “Too Much” in the sense that it Threatens the Economic and Financial System

• But Neither Debt nor Deficits, as Conventionally Measured, Include “Promises” Made to Future Generations

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Federal Debt Held by the Public

CBO

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Why: Health, Social Security, Interest

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Why?

1. Aging Population: Larger percentage on Social Security and Medicare, and Older Populations have Higher Health Care Costs

2. “Excess Cost Growth:” Health Care Costs per Beneficiary Grow Faster than GDP per Person

3. ACA: Expansion of Medicaid and Subsidies

CBO: The 2014 Long Term Budget Outlook

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4. What Can be Done?

• Cut Spending (from what it would otherwise be)

–Health Care

– Social Security

–Other (Discretionary) Spending

• Raise Revenues

– Tax Reform

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Why is US Health Spending High?

1. Unhealthy Behaviors

2. Higher Prices

a. Hospitals

b. Salaries

c. Pharmaceuticals

3. Administration

4. Limited Incentives for Reduced Cost and/or Higher Quality

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Federal Health Care

• Reduce Fraud

• Legal (Malpractice) Reform

• Require Minimum Deductibles and Cost-sharing in Medicare Supplements

• Block grants to states for Medicaid

• Accountable Care Organizations

– Salary (v. Fee for Service)

–Coordinated (v. Fragmented) Care23

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CBO, Long Term Projection for Social Security, Dec 2014

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Social Security

• “Freeze” benefits (adjusted for inflation)

• Gradually increase early and full retirement ages (more)

• Increase taxable earnings to cover more earnings (86% covered today)

• Use the “chained” CPI for inflation

• Cover all new government workers

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Tax Reform-1Lower tax rates and broaden the base

1. High tax rates distort incentives to work, save and invest

2. Because of deductions and exclusions, taxable income is only one-half of personal income

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3. The same amount of revenue (or more) can be raised with lower tax rates and fewer distortions, if the tax base is broadened.

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Tax Reform – 2Reduce Tax Rates

• Reduce the top personal rate from 39.6% to 23-29%

• Repeal the Alternative Minimum Tax

• Repeal the phase out of deductions and exemptions

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Tax Reform – 3Broaden the Base

• Tax capital gains (indexed for inflation) and dividends as ordinary income

• Eliminate itemized deductions

• 12% tax credit for mortgage interest on principal residence (capped)

• 12% tax credit on charitable donations > 2% of AGI

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Tax Reform – 4Broaden the Base (con’t.)

• Cap exclusion of employer-provided health insurance

• Tax interest on new S&L bonds

• Cap exclusion for contributions to retirement accounts at $20,000 or 20% of income

• Eliminate 150 other tax expenditures

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Summary

1. The US government debt is not now at dangerous levels

2. A continuation of current policies for several decades is very dangerous

3. Solutions do exist

4. Reform is (Politically) Possible: 1986 Tax Reform, 1993 Budget Compromise, 1996 Welfare Reform

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More Information

Congressional Budget Office

Long Term Budget Outlook

Choices for Deficit Reduction

http://www.cbo.gov

National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform (2010)

http://www.fiscalcommission.gov

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QUESTIONS?