Vol VIII Num be r 10 Octobe r 2008

Th e Pre s ide nt's Page - Bob H e lt, "A CENTER MOUNTED 4-BBL CARBURETOR ON TH E 140 H P ENGINE" - Bob Boe h m , "Only One Corvair" - Se pte m be r

Me e ting Minute s - Map to th e Club Picnic - From th e Editor

Paul & Vick ie Be rnardo (702)39 8-39 72 pauls e le ct@ m vds l.comP.O. Box 658, Logandale , NV 89 021

Frank Billotti, Jr (702)649 -9 2783621 Ke lcie Marie Ave , N. Las Ve gas , Nv 89 031

Bob & Marcia Boe h m (702)454-9 79 4 m k boe h m @ e m barq m ail.com49 9 9 Me s a Vie w , Las Ve gas , NV 89 120

Ke vin Britt (702)29 3-5104 MEKBRITT01@ aol.com366 Cats Eye Dr. Boulde r City, NV 89 005

Mich ae l & Danie Cas s e ra (702)658-9 370 m ich ae l@ cas s e ra.ne t8119 De fiance Ave ., Las Ve gas , NV 89 129

Vince Calabre s e (702)400-69 9 1112 Montalbe n Ct., H e nde rs on, NV 89 012

Pam e la Cas tiglione (702)301-9 808 dim e ne 80@ m s n.com617 Falcon Lane , Las Ve gas , NV 89 107

Joh n Ch aras k a (702)631-345519 81 W e e nap Dr., Las Ve gas , NV 89 108

Rich ard Conne r (702)221-9 611 rcon@ e m barq m ail.com6342 Little Canyon St., N. Las Ve gas , NV 89 084

Dan Curl (702)431-9 19 21472 Falling Le af Lane , Las Ve gas , NV 89 122

Joh n D'Ange rio (702)459 -5567672 Be tty Lane , Las Ve gas , NV 89 110

Lloyd Fe llow s730 ce nte r s t #12 B, H e nde rs on NV 89 015

Paul Gre e n (702)454-6645511 N. Race track Rd., H e nde rs on, Nv 89 015

Bob & De lore s H e lt (702)256-2008 bobh e lt@ aol.com3016 Pe arl H arbor Dr., Las Ve gas , NV 89 117

Don H olt dirita369 7@ aol.com1731 Em be r Glow Circle , Las Ve gas , NV 89 119

Vic & Ingrid H ow ard (9 28)768-6062 vich ow ard@ frontie rne t.ne t5574 S. Table au, Ft. Moh ave , AZ 86426

Mik e H urd (702)376-8358 dune r14@ h otm ail.com3061 REEF Vie w St., Las Ve gas , NV 89 117

Me lvin C. Jack s on (702)567-8068 fourbigm e l@ yah oo.com1416 Colt Drive , H e nde rs on, Nv 89 002

Nick Jone s (562)310-4847 nick jone s 80@ m s n.com9 889 Lak e Aus tin Ct., Las Ve gas , NV 89 148

Marty & Be rth a Katz (702)303-7829 m artyk atz 53@ yah oo.com5415 Sie rra Brook Ct., Las Ve gas , NV 89 149

Erne s t P. McKinne y (702)682-59 105133 Aidrie Place , Las Ve gas , NV 89 122

Gil & Sh aron Mille r (702)39 7-8755 gilm il@ m vds l.comPO Box 666, Ove rton, NV 89 040

Jack O'Sh e a (702)733-589 3 jco9 9 @ cox.ne t517 Re gal Robin W ay, North Las Ve gas , NV 89 084

Joh n Park e r5614 Idle Ave ., Las Ve gas , NV 89 107

Rudy & Ch ar Sch ie ndt (435)884-5583 rudych ar@ w ire le s s be e h ive .com39 7 Triple Crow n W ay, Grants ville , UT 84029

Arlon & Suz an Sibe rt (702)645-6666 ars ibe rt@ cox.ne t59 80 W .Alfre d, Las Ve gas , NV 89 108

H ow ard Stone r (702)732-1184 w ith e rs 16@ aol.com1854 Cam ino Ve rde , Las Ve gas , NV 89 119

Danie l & Candace W ard (702)457-8274 draw nad@ e m barq m ail.com4832 Ave ne da Sandia, Las Ve gas , NV 89 121

Elaine Pugh & Rich ard W atts (702)431-1861 rw atts 319 4@ aol.com3001 Cabana Dr. #201, Las Ve gas ,NV 89 122

Sallie & Ste ve W e ntw orth (702)459 -5700 s as tum @ ne tz e ro.comPO Box 61334, Las Ve gas , NV 89 160

Jam e s & Nora Z ale (702)649 -5464 jrz ale @ w e btv.ne t2004 W illough by Ave ., Las Ve gas , NV 89 101

Members Ve gas VairsCh apte r 89 1 of CORSA

Ve gas Vairs m e e ts m onth ly at 6:30PM on th e s e cond W e dne s day of th e m onth at De nny's ne ar Ch arle s ton and Fre m ont.

Annual m e m be rs h ip due s are $20 and are due by Fe bruary of e ach ye ar. Due s m ay be paid at th e m onth ly m e e ting or m aile d to th e addre s s be low :

Ve gas VairsPO Box 6219 25Las Ve gas , NV 89 162-19 25

Pre s ide nt, Vic H ow ardVice Pre s ide nt, Arlon Sibe rtSe cre tary, Sallie W e ntw orthTre as ure r, Ingrid H ow ardBoard Me m be r, Bob H e lt

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Mich ae l Cas s e raEditor Ve gas Vairs Vis ion8119 De fiance Ave .Las Ve gas , NV 89 129

It s e e m s to be finally cooling dow n s om e . Th e m ornings are be autiful and it is a pos itive fe e ling th at s um m e r is jus t about gone . Ye s , I k now OFFICIALLY it is Fall but no one told th e Sun to q uick bringing th e h e at during th e day.

Som e ne w s from Fort Moh ave , Ariz ona!! I s old m y 19 61 Ram ps ide in about a w e e k . I put it on th e Cors a W e bs ite and got lots of inq uirie s and s e ve ral pote ntial buye rs . All are e ith e r in th e m idw e s t or Canada! I w as as k e d by s e ve ral of th e m if I w ould drive it th at far if I w e re th e purch as e r.

I s aid No! Not th at th e little Ram py couldn't m ak e it e as ily, it jus t is th at I lik e th e conve nie nce s th at m ore m ode rn cars offe r. I'm trying to put all of th os e into m y 19 66 Monz a but it is n't th e re ye t. Anyw ay, a fe llow from St. Louis , Mo. purch as e d it and th e trans port truck took it aw ay ye s te rday.

I'm going to m is s th at little be auty but it is tim e for m e to ge t aw ay from putting m one y into th e s e Corvairs and th e n h aving th e m jus t s it th e re to look at. I'm dow n to th e '66 Monz a and plan to drive it m ore , e nte r it in s om e local (Az .) s h ow s and bring it to Ve gas now and th e n for s om e of our activitie s . H ope fully I w ill be able to drive it to th e picnic w e h ave s ch e dule d.

Spe ak ing of th e picnic, don't forge t, it is on Sunday Octobe r 19 th at Paradis e Park s tarting at 11:00 AM w ith plans to be gin barbe q ue ing around noon. Th os e of you w h o "volunte e re d" to pick up th e club s upplie d goodie s , don't forge t or w e w ill all be s tarve d!! Th e re s t of you s h ould re m e m be r to bring a s ide dis h to s h are w ith all. Th is is our s e m i annual e ve nt th at give s all th e opportunity to ge t toge th e r and s ocializ e w ith our fe llow Ve gas Varians (?).

On th e club bus ine s s front it look s prom is ing th at Pam Cas tiglione w ill be th e le ad pe rs on and e ditor of our ne w s le tte r. Sh e s pe nt s om e tim e w ith M ik e afte r th e m e e ting to ge t m ore de tails but during th e m e e ting w e

s tre s s e d th e ne e d for oth e rs to pitch in to h e lp put it toge th e r. Article s you find th at you th ink m igh t be good to s h are w ith all or e ve n a w rite up of your ow n about your Corvair or e xpe rie nce s w ith pre s e nt or pas t Corvairs w ill be w e lcom e . M ik e w ill h e lp guide th e com m itte e or group, w h ate ve r you w ant to call th e m , ove r th e ne xt fe w m onth s to h e lp continue th e q uality our ne w s le tte r h as ach ie ve d unde r h is te rm as e ditor.

I don't h ave m uch e ls e to offe r, I'm s ure you w ill find th e activitie s for th e ne xt fe w m onth s of e ls e w h e re in th is ne w s le tte r. Th os e Friday Cruis e Nigh ts are s tarting to look good again w ith th e m ilde r w e ath e r s e tting in s o m aybe w e w ill h ave m ore th e n one or e ve n tw o Corvairs on dis play in th e com ing m onth s .

Til I s e e you at th e m e e ting, drive s afe and k e e p on Vairin'

Vic

Vic H ow ard

Th e four s e parate Roch e s te r carbure tors us e d on th e s tock 140 h ors e pow e r e ngine h ave de finite lim itations . For e xam ple , th e link age is com ple x: It is difficult to s e t up and m aintain corre ctly. In addition, th e re are four carbure tors th at m us t be cle ane d and re built w h e n th e tim e com e s for th at m ainte nance . Als o th e s e tup allow s for no intak e tuning to m axim iz e m ixture flow w ith in a de s ire d rpm range .

So it is natural th at Corvair ow ne rs w ould w ant to e lim inate th e s e de ficie ncie s and im prove pe rform ance . Th us , at le as t tw o diffe re nt ve ndors h ave offe re d conve rs ion k its th at re place d th e four s tock -carbure tors w ith a s m all-cfm 4-barre l carbure tor ce nte r-m ounte d on four runne rs ove r th e top of th e e ngine . Carbure tors m os t com m only us e d w ith th is s e tup are th e H olle y 39 0 cfm (#8007 of th e 4150/4160 s e rie s ) or th e 450 cfm Carte r Alum inum AFB us e d on th e Valiant 270 CI e ngine s and oth e r cars . Th e H olle y is now th e m os t available and m os t us e d carbure tor s o w e w ill addre s s our com m e nts tow ard th is carbure tor m os tly.

Th e H olle y 8007 carbure tor com e s w ith vacuum ope rate d s e condarie s and an e le ctric ch ok e s o th is is th e m os t de s irable carbure tor. Als o available is th e le s s de s irable #629 9 th at doe s n’t h ave th e e le ctric ch ok e .

Th e re are s e ve ral dis tinct advantage s us ing th is ce nte r m ounte d 4-barre l s e tup w ith e ith e r type of carbure tor. Firs t, it e lim inate s th e link age w e ar and adjus tm e nt proble m s of th e s tock s e tup, and of cours e th e re is only one carbure tor to re build.

But m aybe jus t as im portant is th e 6 lb-ft m ax m id-range torq ue (and h ors e pow e r) im prove m e nt due to th e intak e runne r tuning. Se e th e accom panying graph of torq ue and h ors e pow e r com paring th e s tock s e tup on a s tock , m anual trans m is s ion, 140 h p e ngine to th at of th e ce nte r m ounte d 4-bbl s e tup on th e s am e e ngine . Th is data w as tak e n from actual dynam om e te r te s ts w itne s s e d by your auth or.But lik e m os t th ings th e re are als o s om e dow ns ide s to us ing th is s e tup too. Th e w ors t and m aybe m os t annoying is th e ne e d to re calibrate th e 4-bbl carbure tor

to m atch th e Corvair e ngine . No. Sorry, th is is jus t not a s im ple bolt on s e tup, alth ough Clark ’s claim th at th e ir carbure tors are re ady to go. You m ay h ave to tink e r w ith th e carbure tor to ge t it righ t. Th e m ain proble m s w ill probably be w ith th e acce le rator pum p and pow e r valve , ge tting th e m righ t for your e ngine . In addition s om e re -je tting m ay be ne ce s s ary. H e s itation m ay als o be a proble m at low s pe e ds . Actual ch ange s and m odifications are be yond th e s cope of th is article s o it is re com m e nde d you ge t a copy of H P’s H olle y Carbure tor Book or s e e k s om e e xpe rt advice be fore m ak ing any ch ange s . (Se e : <h ttp://autoxe r.s k iblack .com / carbs .h tm l#h olle y>. In w arm clim ate s , you m ay not ne e d th e ch ok e to be ope rational but in colde r clim ate s th e e le ctric ch ok e w ill be ne ce s s ary.

Once you h ave th e carbure tor w ork ing pre tty w e ll, you w ill be face d w ith th e pos s ibility of carbure tor icing at low te m pe rature s and m ois t conditions . Th is can be a proble m afte r cold s tartup but once th e e ngine is w arm e d th e proble m s h ould not be of conce rn.

In addition, due to its de s ign, th e H olle y h as m any (about 20) place s w h e re fue l can le ak and be a fire h az ard. So w h e n you m us t re build your carbure tor, us e only re us able gas k e ts . Th e s e re us able gas k e ts w ill allow you to partially dis as s e m ble th e carbure tor w h e n ne ce s s ary and th e n re as s e m ble w ith out re placing th e gas k e ts e ach tim e .

Las tly, you w ill note from th e graph th at w h ile th e 2000-4500 rpm m id-range s h ow s a m uch im prove d torq ue , at h igh e r s pe e ds th e torq ue is w ors e th an s tock . Th is is be caus e of th e re s onant tuning th at occurs in th e runne rs . Th us m id-range pe rform ance is gre atly e nh ance d w h ile h igh s pe e d s uffe rs . Th is s e tup th e n is gre at for th e s tre e t but unde s irable for racing.

A CENTER MOUNTED 4-BBL CARBURETORON TH E 140 H P ENGINE

By Bob H e lt

Th e above graph s h ow s th e re s ults of dynam om e te r te s ting of a s tock 140 h ors e pow e r Corvair e ngine both w ith th e s tock carbure tor s e tup and th e ce nte r m ounte d H olle y 4-barre l s e tup. Note th e im prove d m id-range torq ue obtaine d w ith th e ce nte r-m ount s e tup as a trade off to a los s in torq ue at s pe e ds e xce e ding 4600 rpm . Note th e clos e agre e m e nt of 109 pe ak h ors e pow e r w ith th e s e parate ly re porte d official Ch e vrole t e ngine te s t re s ults of 109 .4.

Th e Se pte m be r m e e ting of Ve gas Vairs w as h e ld on th e 10th at th e De nny’s Re s taurant, locate d on th e Boulde r H igh w ay ne ar Ch arle s ton and Fre e m ont.

Pre s ide nt, Vic H ow ard calle d th e m e e ting to orde r at 7:09 PM w ith 15 m e m be rs pre s e nt. Th e re w e re no vis itors th is m e e ting.

Tre as ure r Ingrid H ow ard re porte d a club balance of $ 552.59 afte r all Ne w s le tte r cos ts h ave be e n paid up to date .

OLD BUSINESS

Since ne w s le tte r Editor, Mik e Cas s e ra, h as announce d h is re s ignation from th is pos ition e ffe ctive Fe bruary 2009 , Pre s ide nt Vic ope ne d th e m e e ting w ith a dis cus s ion of finding a ne w Editor. Pam e la Cas tiglione h as te ntative ly volunte e re d to acce pt th is tas k but is s e e k ing m ore inform ation on w h at is involve d and als o w ould lik e to find s om e volunte e rs to provide as s is tance . During las t m onth ’s m e e ting Ernie and Ste ve h ad volunte e re d to tak e ove r th e tas k of ge tting th e ne w s le tte r copie d, collate d, s taple d, addre s s e d and m aile d. And of cours e both Pre s . Vic and Bob H e lt agre e d to continue w riting th e ir m onth ly colum ns too. W h at is ne e de d now are volunte e rs to provide m onth ly colum ns de tailing e ve nts and activitie s including both re s ults of pas t e ve nts and plans for forth com ing e ve nts , as dis cus s e d by Pre s Vic during th e m e e ting. Th e Club is now m ailing about 25 copie s m onth ly to m e m be rs .

Bob H e lt announce d th at Marty Katz h as finally (at long las t) be e n include d in th e Com m uniq ue ’s lis ting of approve d Corvair Re pair and Parts Spe cialis ts . Th ank s Marty for continuing to provide th is s e rvice .

Jus t a re m inde r th at th e 2008 Gre at W e s te rn Fan Be lt Tos s & Sw ap Me e t (GW FBT& SM) w ill be h e ld at th e Orange County (CA) Fair Grounds , Oct 31-Nov2.

NEW BUSINESS

It w as re porte d th at Mark Ak s am it, pre vious ly propritor of South w e s t Corvair Salvage , is now locate d in Cottonw ood, AZ and h as s tarte d doing Corvair re pair w ork .

Th e club w ill h old th e annual picnic at Paradis e Park on Sunday, 19 Oct 2008. Gath e ring to occur at 11AM w ith food s e rvice s tarting around noon. Eve rybody is re q ue s te d to bring a cove re d dis h and ch air. Arlon and Suz an w ill bring th e m e e t and buns , pam w ill bring th e drink s , Marty w ill bring th e ch arcoal and s tarte r fluid.

A re m inde r w as m ade th at th e Supe r Run w ill be h e ld during th e 25-28th of th is m onth .

Bob H e lt announce d th at long tim e Ph oe nix club m e m be r and Ch air of th e 2002 Flags taff National Conve ntion, Tom Sch rum s uffe re d a s trok e and is curre ntly acce pting calls at; th e Barrow s Ne urological Ins titute , St Jos e ph 's H os pital and Me dical Ce nte r, 350 W e s t Th om as Rd., Ph oe nix, AZ 85013, 602-406-3000,pe r Gre g Lacos s e .

Both Marty and Vic dis cus s e d cars th e y h ad for s ale .

Th e raffle for both s m all ite m s and h alf of th e tick e t s ale s w as h e ld. Marcia Boe h m w on $21.50 in th e 50/50.

Th e re be ing no furth e r bus ine s s , th e m e e ting w as adjourne d at 7:55 PM.

Re s pe ctfully s ubm itte d, Bob H e lt, for Se cre tary Sallie W e ntw orth

Se pte m be r 2008 MEETING MINUTES10 Se pt. 2008

Re corde d by Bob H e lt

I gave you th e punch line firs t. Le t m e le ad up to it in w h at follow s .

Th e re is a car gath e ring e ve ry Saturday m orning 7-10 am calle d “Cars and Coffe e ” th at tak e s place at Silve rs tone Park Place on s outh Eas te rn Ave nue . Th is location is jus t s outh of th e be ltw ay e xit to Eas te rn. If you are fam iliar w ith th at are a, it is in th e s am e s h opping m all as th e W h ite Ch ocolate Grille . If you are not fam iliar w ith it, ch e ck out th e w e b s ite (w w w .cars andcoffe e las ve gas .com ), w h ich w ill as s is t you in finding out all s orts of th ings about th e gath e ring. You w ill als o note th at th is is one along w ith a fe w oth e rs th at place in various citie s .

On Se pte m be r 13, I took th e ye llow ‘66 Cors a Turbo Conve rt and h e ade d out th e re . W h e n I arrive d at about 7:10, th e re w e re alre ady about 100 cars th e re . I w h e e le d into a park ing place re s e rve d for th e s h ow cars , pulle d up th e e ngine cove r and le ft th e car. Note th at th e re is no fe e for e ith e r s h ow ing a car or jus t look ing.

In w alk ing around, I found it is q uite a big ope ration. Th e re w as a com m and pos t s e t up w ith a louds pe ak e r s ys te m th at w as playing m us ic from th e rock and roll e ra, w ith Elvis e t al. Th e ope rators of th e s ce ne cam e on th e s pe ak e r s ys te m pe riodically to th ank e ve ryone for com ing, to brag about h ow big th is affair is ge tting e ach w e e k , and to th ank s om e s pons ors for th e e ve nt. Th e re w e re s e ve ral pe ople dire cting traffic, w h e th e r for s h ow cars or ge ne ral park ing.

Als o, th e re are a fe w place s th e re w h e re you can ge t food and coffe e . Include d are an Eins te in’s bage ls and a Italian re s taurant w h e re th e y s e rve all k inds of coffe e s and pas trie s to tak e out. Als o th e re is a Europe an Auto Mart th at h as a lot of fancy cars you can look th rough , and it jus t h appe ns to be ope n at th is e arly h our. I am

s us picious th at th e organiz e r of th e car s h ow is involve d w ith de ale rs h ip.

Cars continue d to roll in th e w h ole tim e I w as th e re (I le ft about 9 :30). My e s tim ate w as th e re w e re about 300 cars be ing s h ow e d in total. Som e k e pt com ing and s om e trick le d out from tim e to tim e .

Th e range of cars w as inte re s ting. Th e y range d from brand ne w Pontiac Sols tice s (3 to be e xact) to pre cis e ly re s tore d Mode l A’s (2 of th e s e ). Th e re w e re m any Europe an cars , including s e ve ral MGs of various vintage s , Trium ph s , and Jaguars . In th is ge ne ral cate gory, th e re w e re large num be rs of Fe rraris and Lam borgh inis , as w e ll as Audis and m any m ore .

Th e organiz ation appare ntly trie s to h ave clubs com e th e re and park toge th e r. Th e re w as a ve ry large club s e ction of ne w or ne arly ne w Corve tte s , and large num be r of ne w e r Mus tangs , and e ve n th re e Buick Grand Nationals (and a ’53 be autiful Sk ylark ). In th e Ch e vy cate gory be s ide s th e Corve tte s , s e ve ral ‘55s w e re th e re , including an El Cam ino.

H ow e ve r, you gue s s e d it: th e re w as only one Corvair.

Only One CorvairBy Bob Boe h m

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Upcoming Events:Octobe r 8 Club Me e ting at De nny's

Octobe r 17 H e nde rs on Ch e vrole t "Ope n H ous e & Cruis e Nigh t" 240 N. Gibs on 6pm -9 pm (702) 558-2432

Octobe r 18 10th Annual Fall Fe s tival - Ove rton Park on th e Gre e n 702-39 7-6000

Octobe r 19 Club Picnic - 11am Paradis e Park

Octobe r 31 - Nov. 2 Gre at W e s te rn Fan Be lt Tos s and Sw ap Me e t

Nove m be r 21 "Friday Cruis e Nigh t"

De ce m be r 20 "Ch ris tm as Toy Run" Ch ildre n's Ge t-Toge th e r

For Sale:19 65 Monza110 4-s pe e d w ith AC. Cus tom Inte rior, Cors a Das h , Pontiac H ood Tach . Ne e ds Paint and m inor, m inor body w ork . $2500 Contact Marty Katz . 303-7829

19 61 COUPE / 19 67 COUPETim m y Bis h op h as tw o Corvairs for s ale ...a 19 61 Corvair coupe autom atic 9 0h p (w ith a h uge pile of pape rw ork tracing its h is tory) and a 19 67 coupe 4-s pe e d th at w as a one -ow ne r until Tim m y's dad, Matt, bough t it a ye ar or tw o ago. Th e y're as k ing for $2000 for both , but are le aving tow n and NEED to s e ll th e m ! Ste ve h as th e ir num be r. Call Ste ve at Car City at 702-459 -5700.

19 65 CORSA TURBOCrocus Ye llow Turbo. Much w ork done ove r th e ye ars .$6000 ne gotiable . Contact Mich ae l Cas s e ra. 480-4404 or m ich ae l@ cas s e ra.ne t

19 63 700 Coupe PARTSMarty is parting out a 63 700 coupe w ith 59 ,000 original m ile s . Original factory tinte d glas s , ne w tire s and m any parts in good s h ape .Contact Marty Katz . 303-7829

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H ard to be lie ve th at it's Octobe r alre ady! Tim e for th e Fall Club Picnic. It look s lik e its jus t in tim e too. Th e te m pe rature s h ave droppe d nice ly s o I'm h oping for a nice cool but be autiful day on th e 19 th . It w ill be nice to ge t out, h ave s om e good food and re lax.

Tim e s are pre tty craz y w ith all th at's going on th e s e days . W e h ave and e le ction com ing up and from w h at I h e ar, Ne vada is up for grabs . Expe ct to ge t a lot of junk m ail and ph one calls for th e ne xt fe w w e e k s .

Th e re is als o th e craz ine s s of th e e conom y. H ope fully e ve rybody out th e re is doing ok ay. I h ave a fe e ling I'm going to h ave a tough tim e s e lling m y Corvair. I did h ave s om e body inte re s te d a w e e k ago but h e h as n't gotte n back to m e s ince . W h o k now s , h e m ay s urpris e m e .

Until I s e ll it I w ill continue to e njoy it. Now is th e tim e to drive w ith th e te m pe rature dropping th e w ay it h as . Ge t your car out to a s h ow . Tak e s om e picture s and s e nd th e m to m e s o I can fe ature it and you in th e ne w s le tte r. My gre ate s t re s ource is you.

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H ELLO FELLOW CORVAIR ENTH USIAST!Did you k now th e re is a Corvair club in Las Ve gas ? It's calle d "Ve gas Vairs ". W e m e e t th e s e cond W e dne s day of e ach m onth at th e De nny's re s taurant at 2545 E. Fre m ont St. (at Ch arle s ton & Fre m ont) at 7pm . W e 'd s ure e njoy m e e ting you and your Corvair at one of our m e e tings !!! PLEASE COME JOIN US!

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H ELLO FELLOW CORVAIR ENTH USIAST!Did you k now th e re is a Corvair club in Las Ve gas ? It's calle d "Ve gas Vairs ". W e m e e t th e s e cond W e dne s day of e ach m onth at th e De nny's re s taurant at 2545 E. Fre m ont St. (at Ch arle s ton & Fre m ont) at 7pm . W e 'd s ure e njoy m e e ting you and your Corvair at one of our m e e tings !!! PLEASE COME JOIN US!

H ELLO FELLOW CORVAIR ENTH USIAST!Did you k now th e re is a Corvair club in Las Ve gas ? It's calle d "Ve gas Vairs ". W e m e e t th e s e cond W e dne s day of e ach m onth at th e De nny's re s taurant at 2545 E. Fre m ont St. (at Ch arle s ton & Fre m ont) at 7pm . W e 'd s ure e njoy m e e ting you and your Corvair at one of our m e e tings !!! PLEASE COME JOIN US!