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TECHNICAL COMMITTEE ON HOT WORK OPERATIONS First Draft Meeting Agenda NFPA Headquarters, Quincy, MA September 21, 2016 8:00 AM 5:00 PM EDT Note: Continental breakfast will be served at 7:30AM. Lunch will be provided at 12:00PM. 1. Welcome. Mark Blank, Chair 2. Introductions and Update of Committee Roster. (Attachment A) 3. Approval of minutes from the ROC Meeting held by teleconference on October 18, 2012. (Attachment B) 4. Staff updates. Laura Montville, NFPA Staff a) Committee membership update. b) Annual 2018 revision cycle schedule. (Attachment C) c) NFPA Process Presentation. 5. Review of Public Inputs-NFPA 51B. (Attachment D) 6. Update on hot work training program in Boston, MA. John Dempsey, Deputy Fire Chief, Boston Fire Department. 7. Hot work awareness brainstorming. NFPA Marketing. 8. New Business. 9. Next Meeting. 10. Adjourn. NFPA 51B First Draft Meeting Agenda (A2018) September 21, 2016 - Quincy, MA Page 1 of 76

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TECHNICAL COMMITTEE ON HOT WORK OPERATIONS First Draft Meeting Agenda

NFPA Headquarters, Quincy, MA

September 21, 2016 8:00 AM – 5:00 PM EDT

Note: Continental breakfast will be served at 7:30AM. Lunch will be provided at 12:00PM.

1. Welcome. Mark Blank, Chair

2. Introductions and Update of Committee Roster. (Attachment A)

3. Approval of minutes from the ROC Meeting held by teleconference on October 18, 2012. (Attachment B)

4. Staff updates. Laura Montville, NFPA Staff

a) Committee membership update.

b) Annual 2018 revision cycle schedule. (Attachment C)

c) NFPA Process Presentation.

5. Review of Public Inputs-NFPA 51B. (Attachment D)

6. Update on hot work training program in Boston, MA. John Dempsey, Deputy Fire Chief, Boston Fire

Department.

7. Hot work awareness brainstorming. NFPA Marketing.

8. New Business.

9. Next Meeting.

10. Adjourn.

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Attachment A

Committee Roster

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Address List No PhoneHot Work Operations HWO-AAA

Laura E. Montville08/26/2016

HWO-AAA

Mark E. Blank

ChairFM Global300 South Northwest Highway, Suite 100Park Ridge, IL 60068-5872Alternate: Ruby Evans

I 10/1/1995HWO-AAA

Scott R. Altemose

PrincipalTrefoil Training & Technical Assistance1420 Andrew DriveWhitehall, PA 18052

SE 8/5/2009

HWO-AAA

Lester Andree

PrincipalNational Automatic Sprinkler Fitters LU 669PO Box 26847Tucson, AZ 85726United Assn. of Journeymen & Apprentices of thePlumbing & Pipe Fitting Industry

L 03/07/2013HWO-AAA

Christopher J. Bloom

PrincipalCJB Fire Consultants2654 East Gregory RoadPO Box 2611White City, OR 97503-1672Alternate: Joseph M. Bloom

SE 10/1/1995

HWO-AAA

Jeff M. Breidenbach

PrincipalLiberty Mutual Commercial Markets, Property4503 Winchester RoadLouisville, KY 40207Alternate: Robert C. Berry

I 03/03/2014HWO-AAA

Gregory R. Cameron

PrincipalArizona Public Service CompanyPalo Verde Nuclear Generating StationPO Box 52034, MS 7098Phoenix, AZ 85072

U 7/23/2008

HWO-AAA

Katelyn Cardy

PrincipalNuclear Electric Insurance Limited1201 N Market Street Suite 1100Wilmington, DE 19801

I 08/03/2016HWO-AAA

Christopher Drobny

PrincipalChubb Group of Insurance Companies555 South Flower Street, 3rd FloorLos Angeles, CA 90071Alternate: DeAndrea D. Cooley

I 10/28/2008

HWO-AAA

Aaron D. Duff

PrincipalJohnson & Johnson410 George StreetNew Brunswick, NJ 08901-2016NFPA Industrial Fire Protection Section

U 8/2/2010HWO-AAA

Tolga Durak

PrincipalOklahoma State UniversityEnvironmental Health & Safety120 Physical PlantStillwater, OK 74078-8050

U 1/10/2008

HWO-AAA

Thomas K. Furlong

PrincipalNuclear Service Organization1201 North Market Street, Suite 1100Wilmington, DE 19801Alternate: Andrew J. Brady

I 7/23/2008HWO-AAA

Satya Prakash Garg

PrincipalGAIL (India) LimitedCorporate HSE DepartmentCabin- 1830, 3rd Floor, PARC BuildingGTI, Sector- 16ANoida, 201301 India

E 10/10/1998

HWO-AAA

Gregory G. Grondin

PrincipalBath Iron Works Corporation166 Maquoit RoadBrunswick, ME 04011-7473Marine Chemist Association, Inc.

M 03/03/2014HWO-AAA

James R. Haiser, Jr.

PrincipalDow Corning Corporation28899 East Iron Woods PathMidland, MI 48642

U 1/10/2008

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Address List No PhoneHot Work Operations HWO-AAA

Laura E. Montville08/26/2016

HWO-AAA

David W. Hollinger

PrincipalDrexel University3201 Arch Street, Suite 350Philadelphia, PA 19104-2756

U 8/5/2009HWO-AAA

Dennis R. Howard

PrincipalSafety Management, Inc.PO Box 2937St. Francisville, LA 70775

SE 7/12/2001

HWO-AAA

Traci D. Huffman

PrincipalAllianz Risk Consulting, LLCPO Box 3331Iowa City, IA 52244-3331

I 10/28/2008HWO-AAA

Sergio Linan

PrincipalZurich Insurance Company6007 Larimer SquareSan Antonio, TX 78249Alternate: Robert D. Ziebarth

I 3/4/2009

HWO-AAA

Richard T. Long, Jr.

PrincipalExponent, Inc.17000 Science Drive, Suite 200Bowie, MD 20715-4427Alternate: Andrew Blum

SE 10/28/2008HWO-AAA

Wayne Maksylewich

PrincipalConsultant2785 Ash StreetVancouver, BC V5Z 1M9 Canada

SE 12/08/2015

HWO-AAA

August F. Manz

PrincipalA. F. Manz Associates470 Whitewood RoadUnion, NJ 07083-8218American Welding SocietyAlternate: Stephen P. Hedrick

M 1/1/1981HWO-AAA

Lester W. Swanson

PrincipalArcelorMittal250 West US Highway 12Burns Harbor, IN 46304

U 8/9/2011

HWO-AAA

Alain Theriault

PrincipalPyrotech BEI Inc.1455 MichelinLaval, QC H7L 4S2 Canada

SE 10/20/2010HWO-AAA

Antony D. Tijerina

PrincipalTijerina Investigations, Inc.1541 Laurel River TrailLawrenceville, GA 30043

SE 7/24/1997

HWO-AAA

Garrett Dutch VanAtta

PrincipalAuburn Manufacturing Inc.P.O. Box 22034 Walker RoadMechanic Falls, ME 04256

M 08/03/2016HWO-AAA

David A. Werba

PrincipalMiller Electric Manufacturing Company1635 West Spencer StreetAppleton, WI 54914National Electrical Manufacturers Association

M 7/29/2005

HWO-AAA

Robert C. Berry

AlternateLiberty Mutual Insurance Company1508 Beech CircleWilkesboro, NC 28697-2602Principal: Jeff M. Breidenbach

I 04/08/2015HWO-AAA

Joseph M. Bloom

AlternateBloom Fire InvestigationPO Box 207Grants Pass, OR 97528Principal: Christopher J. Bloom

SE 4/1/1996

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Address List No PhoneHot Work Operations HWO-AAA

Laura E. Montville08/26/2016

HWO-AAA

Andrew Blum

AlternateExponent, Inc.3350 Peachtree Road NE, Suite 1125Atlanta, GA 30326-1039Principal: Richard T. Long, Jr.

SE 3/1/2011HWO-AAA

Andrew J. Brady

AlternateNuclear Service Organization1201 North Market Street, Suite 1100Wilmington, DE 19801Principal: Thomas K. Furlong

I 8/9/2011

HWO-AAA

DeAndrea D. Cooley

AlternateACE USA525 West Monroe Street, Suite 700Chicago, IL 60661Principal: Christopher Drobny

I 10/27/2009HWO-AAA

Ruby Evans

AlternateFM Global1151 Boston-Providence TurnpikePO Box 9102Norwood, MA 02062-9102Principal: Mark E. Blank

I 12/08/2015

HWO-AAA

Stephen P. Hedrick

AlternateAmerican Welding Society550 NW LeJeune RoadMiami, FL 33126American Welding SocietyPrincipal: August F. Manz

M 7/24/1997HWO-AAA

Robert D. Ziebarth

AlternateZurich Services Corporation5005 Rockside Road, Suite 200Independence, OH 44131Principal: Sergio Linan

I 10/27/2009

HWO-AAA

Laura E. Montville

Staff LiaisonNational Fire Protection Association1 Batterymarch ParkQuincy, MA 02169-7471

7/15/2013

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Attachment B

Previous Meeting Minutes

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TECHNICAL COMMITTEE  ON HOT WORK OPERATIONS 

TO: TECHNICAL COMMITTEE ON HOT WORK OPERATIONS

FROM: Derek Duval, Staff Liaison

DATE: November 5, 2012

SUBJ: HWO-AAA, NFPA 51B ROC Meeting Minutes (Web-conference)  _________________________________________________________________________________ 

I. Attendance: 

 

Members and Alternates: 

Mark Blank, Committee Chair, FM Global, IL Richard Anderson, XL Global Asset Protective Services, CA Christopher Bloom, CJB Fire Consultants, OR Christopher Drobny, Chubb Group of Insurance Companies, CA Cooley DeAndrea, Allianz Risk Consulting, LLC, IA (Alternate to Traci Huffman) Aaron Duff, Bristol-Myers Squibb Company, representing NFPA Industrial Fire Protection

Section, NJ James Haiser, Dow Corning Corporation, MI David Hollinger, City of Reading Department of Fire and Rescue Services, PA Traci Huffman, Allianz Risk Consulting, LLC, IA August Manz, A. F. Manz Associates, representing American Welding Society, NJ Michael O’Brien, Auburn Manufacturing, Inc., ME Lester Swanson, ArcelorMittal, IN Antony Tijerina, Tijerina Investigations, Inc., GA David Werba, National Electrical Manufacturers, WI Robert Ziebarth, Zurich Services Corporation, OH (Alternate to Sergio Linan) Derek Duval, NFPA, Staff Liaison  

II. Minutes of Meeting: 

 

1. The Chair opened the meeting at 1:10 p.m., October 18, 2012.  

2. The Chair welcomed the Committee and asked them to consider “How can we, as in the committee, influence the awareness of the hot work hazards?”

3. Attendees introduced themselves and necessary corrections were made to the

Technical Committee roster.

4. The Staff reported on the current committee roster and member status, reviewed the general procedures, available resources from the Fire Research

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HWO‐AAA, NFPA 51B ROC Meeting Minutes October 18, 2012 – page 2     

Foundation, and reviewed the milestones for the revision cycle for Annual 2013. Additionally, the Staff introduced the new standards development process that will be in effect for the next revision cycle.

5. The Committee approved the minutes from the NFPA 51B ROP meeting.

6. The Committee reviewed and took actions on all Public Comments (2) to NFPA

51B and developed one (1) committee comment. Additionally, the Committee discussed changing the time that a fire watch is needed to review an area after the completion of hot work activity from 30 minutes to an hour. However, the Committee did not make any changes during this stage in the cycle, as it would not give the industry enough time to review the new concept.

7. The Committee approved a motion directing the Staff to prepare and

distribute the NFPA 51B ROC letter ballot.

8. The Committee discussed having the CSB involved with the future revision cycles of NFPA 51B and to develop strategies on educating the users about hot work safety.

9. Next Meeting. The next meeting will be scheduled as needed. Details will be forwarded as they become available.

10. The Chair thanked everyone for their input. The Committee Meeting was

adjourned at 3:45 p.m., on October 18, 2012.

Respectfully submitted, Derek Duval, NFPA, Staff Liaison

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Attachment C

Annual 2018 Revision Cycle Schedule

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Process 

StageProcess Step Dates for TC

Dates for TC 

with CC

Public Input Closing Date  6/29/2016 6/29/2016

Final date for TC First Draft Meeting 12/7/2016 9/7/2016Posting of First Draft and TC Ballot  1/25/2017 10/19/2016Final date for Receipt of TC First Draft ballot 2/15/2017 11/9/2016Final date for Receipt of TC First Draft ballot ‐ recirc 2/22/2017 11/16/2016Posting of First Draft for CC Meeting 11/23/2016Final date for CC First Draft Meeting 1/4/2017Posting of First Draft and CC Ballot  1/25/2017Final date for Receipt of CC First Draft ballot 2/15/2017Final date for Receipt of CC First Draft ballot ‐ recirc 2/22/2017Post First Draft Report for Public Comment 3/1/2017 3/1/2017

Public Comment closing date  5/10/2017 5/10/2017

Notice published on Consent Standards (Standards that receive No Comments). Note: Date varies and determined via TC ballot.

_ _

Appeal Closing Date for Consent Standards (15 Days)     (Standards That Received 

No Comments)_ _

Final date for TC Second Draft Meeting 11/8/2017 8/2/2017Posting of Second Draft and TC Ballot  12/20/2017 9/13/2017Final date for Receipt of TC Second Draft Ballot 1/10/2018 10/4/2017Final date for receipt of TC Second Draft ballot ‐ recirc 1/17/2018 10/11/2017Posting of Second Draft for CC Mtg 10/18/2017Final date for CC Second Draft Meeting 11/29/2017Posting of Second Draft for CC Ballot 12/20/2017Final date for Receipt of CC Second Draft ballot 1/10/2018Final date for Receipt of CC Second Draft ballot ‐ recirc 1/17/2018Post Second Draft Report for NITMAM Review 1/24/2018 1/24/2018

Notice of Intent to Make a Motion (NITMAM) Closing Date 2/21/2018 2/21/2018Posting of Certified Amending Motions (CAMs) and Consent Standards 4/4/2018 4/4/2018Appeal Closing Date for Consent Standards (15 Days after posting) 4/19/2018 4/19/2018SC Issuance Date for Consent Standards  (10 Days)  4/29/2018 4/29/2018

Tech Session Association Meeting for Standards with CAMs 6/4‐7/2018 6/4‐7/2018

Appeal Closing Date for Standards with CAMs (20 Days after ATM) 6/27/2018 6/27/2018Council Issuance Date for Standards with CAMs* 8/14/2018 8/14/2018

Comment 

Stage (Second 

Draft)

Tech Session 

Preparation     

(& Issuance)

Appeals and 

Issuance

   2018 ANNUAL REVISION CYCLE 

Public Input 

Stage

(First Draft)

* Public Input Closing Dates may vary according to standards and schedules for Revision Cycles may change.  Please check the 

NFPA Website for the most up‐to‐date information on Public Input Closing Dates and schedules at www.nfpa.org/document # (i.e. 

www.nfpa.org/101) and click on Next Edition tab.

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Attachment D

Public Inputs

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Public Input No. 17-NFPA 51B-2015 [ Global Input ]

3.3.X Responsible Party.

The building owner, a lessee, or a duly authorized representative.

Globally change "management" everywhere it appears in the document to "responsible party."

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input

Management is not defined and is a very nebulous term that could indicate anyone from the shift manager at a local McDonalds to the CEO of a Fortune 100 company. Since the term management cannot be pinned to any one person, it is unenforceable. It could apply directly to no one and to everyone. This public input suggests changing it to "responsible party" and defining that term using the language from NFPA 1. Defining responsible party prevents having to say building owner, lessee, or designated representative every time "management" appears in the document.

Related Public Inputs for This Document

Related Input Relationship

Public Input No. 19-NFPA 51B-2015 [Chapter 4]

Public Input No. 20-NFPA 51B-2015 [Chapter 5]

Public Input No. 21-NFPA 51B-2015 [Section No. A.4.1]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Michael DeVore

Organization: State Farm Insurance Company

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Tue Nov 03 11:39:26 EST 2015

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Public Input No. 35-NFPA 51B-2016 [ Section No. 1.3.2 ]

1.3.2

This standard shall not apply to the following:

(1) Candles

(2) Pyrotechnics or special effects

(3) Cooking operations

(4) Electric soldering irons

(5) Design and installation of gas cutting equipment and welding equipment covered in NFPA 51,Standard for the Design and Installation of Oxygen–Fuel Gas Systems for Welding, Cutting, and AlliedProcesses

(6) Additional requirements for hot work operations in confined spaces

(7) Lockout/tagout procedures during hot work

(8) Hot works conducted in labratories compling with NFPA 45

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input

The requirements contained in NFPA 51B are excessive and not partible for work being conducted in laboratories. In addition, NFPA 45 contains safeguards for hot works in laboratories.

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: William Guffey

Organization: University of Maryland, Fire Marshal's Office

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Sat Mar 05 18:47:58 EST 2016

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Public Input No. 44-NFPA 51B-2016 [ Section No. 1.3.2 ]

1.3.2

This standard shall specifically not apply to the following:

(1) Candles

(2) Pyrotechnics or special effects

(3) Cooking operations

(4) Electric soldering irons

(5) Design and installation of gas cutting equipment and welding equipment covered in NFPA 51,Standard for the Design and Installation of Oxygen–Fuel Gas Systems for Welding, Cutting, and AlliedProcesses

(6) Additional requirements for hot work operations in confined spaces

(7) Lockout/tagout procedures during hot work

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input

Section 1.3.1 states applicability of the standard and in item (8) states this it applies to "similar applications." Section 1.3.2 elaborates on item (8) in listing application to which it does not apply. By adding the word "specifically," it emphasizes the intent more clearly. I eliminates the attempt to argue that item (8) may be interpreted to include the items in 1.3.2, nor that the definition of "Hot Work" in 3.3.1 includes these specific applications.

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Jim Muir

Organization: Building Safety Division, Clark County, Washington

Affilliation: NFPA's Building Code Development Committee (BCDC)

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu Jun 16 17:39:12 EDT 2016

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Public Input No. 18-NFPA 51B-2015 [ New Section after 1.5 ]

1.6 Units and Formulas.

1.6.1 The units of measure in this [document] are presented first in U.S. customary units (inch-pound units).International System (SI) of Units follow the inchpound units in parentheses.

1.6.2 Either system of units shall be acceptable for satisfying the requirements in the standard.

1.6.3 Users of this standard shall apply one system of units consistently and shall not alternate betweenunits.

1.6.4 The values presented for measurements in this standard are expressed with a degree of precisionappropriate for practical application and enforcement. It is not intended that the application or enforcementof these values be more precise than the precision expressed.

1.6.5 Where extracted text contains values expressed in only one system of units, the values in theextracted text have been retained without conversion to preserve the values established by the responsibletechnical committee in the source document.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input

Since units are used in the document, this standard language is needed in Chapter 1. See the Manual of Style section 4.1.1 and the suggested language, which is proposed, from A.4.4.

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Michael DeVore

Organization: State Farm Insurance Company

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Tue Nov 03 11:49:27 EST 2015

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Public Input No. 19-NFPA 51B-2015 [ Chapter 4 ]

Chapter 4 Responsibility for Hot Work.

4.1.2

Management shall designate a permit authorizing individual (PAI)

4.1 *

Management.

Management or a designated agent shall be responsible for the safe operations of hot work activity.

4.1.1

Management shall establish permissible areas for hot work.

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General.

4.1.1 Responsible Party.

The responsible party shall ensure all of the following:

(1) Safe operations maintained during hot work activity

(2) Permit authorizing individual (PAI) designated

(3) Permissible areas established for hot work

(4) Awareness provided for site-specific special hazards including, but not limited to:

(5) Flammable materials

(6) Hazardous processes

(7) *Other potential fire hazards

4.1.2 Equipment .

4.1.

3 2.1

All equipment shall be examined to ensure it is in a safe operating condition.

4.1.

4 2.2

When found to be incapable of reliable safe operation,

the

equipment shall be repaired by qualified personnel prior to its next use or be withdrawn from service

and tagged out of service

.

4.1.

5

Management shall ensure that only approved apparatus, such as torches, manifolds, regulators orpressure-reducing valves, and acetylene generators, are used

2.3

Equipment withdrawn from service shall be tagged out of service .

4.1.

6

Management shall ensure that all individuals involved in the hot work operations, including contractors, are

3 Personnel.

Employees or contractors performing hot work shall be familiar with the provisions of this standard.

4.1.

63 .

1

Individuals involved in

1

Personnel performing hot work operations shall be trained in the safe operation of their equipment and inthe safe use of the process.

4.1.

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63 .2

Individuals involved in

Personnel performing hot work operations shall

have an awareness

be aware of the inherent risks

involved

and understand the emergency procedures in the event of a fire.

4.

1.7

Management shall advise all contractors about site-specific flammable materials, hazardous processes orconditions, or other potential fire hazards.

4.2

Permit Authorizing Individual (PAI).

In conjunction with management

When issuing hot work permits , the PAI shall

be responsible for the safe operation of hot work activities.

ensure safe operations by inspecting all of the following:

(1) Location

(2) Equipment

(3) Personnel training credentials

4.2.1 *

The

When site-specific special hazards exist, the PAI shall

consider

inform the

safety of the

hot work operator and fire watch

with respect to

of the appropriate personal protective equipment (PPE)

for other special hazards beyond hot work

.

( See 5.1 .)

4.2.

2 2

The PAI shall

determine

identify site-specific flammable materials, hazardous processes, or other potential fire hazards that are

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present or likely to be present in the hot work location.

4.2.

3

The PAI shall ensure the protection of combustibles

3

Hot work shall not be permitted unless combustibles are protected from ignition by any of the followingmeans:

Considering

(1) Using alternative methods to hot work

(2) Moving the work to a location

that is

(1) free

from

(1) of combustibles

If the work cannot be moved, moving the

(1) Moving the combustibles to a safe distance

or having

(1)

(2) Shielding the combustibles

properly shielded

(1) against ignition

(2) Scheduling hot work

so that

(1) when operations are down that

could expose combustibles to ignition are not begun during hot work operations

4.2.4

If the criteria of 4.2.3 (2) through 4.2.3 (4) cannot be met, hot work shall not be performed.

(1) would produce combustibles in the hot work area

4.2.

5 4

The PAI shall determine that required fire protection and extinguishing equipment are

properly

located at the hot work site.

4.2.

6 5

Where a fire watch is required (see Section 5.5 ) , the PAI shall be responsible for ensuring that a firewatch is at the site.

4.2.

76 *

*

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Where a fire watch is not required, the PAI shall make a final check 1

/ 2 hour after the completion of hot work operations to detect and extinguish smoldering fires.

4.3

Hot Work Operator.

4.3.1

The hot work operator shall handle equipment safely

and use it as follows

so as not to endanger lives and property

:

.

4.3.2

The operator shall have

the

PAI

's The

approval before starting hot work operations.

All equipment shall be examined to ensure it is in a safe operating condition; if found to be incapable ofreliable safe operation, the equipment shall be repaired by qualified personnel prior to its next use or bewithdrawn from service.

4.3.3

Before starting hot work, the operator shall examine equipment in accordance with 4.1.2.

4.3.4

If unsafe conditions develop during hot work, the operator shall cease hot work operations

if unsafe conditions develop

and

shall

notify

management,

the

area supervisor, or the

PAI for reassessment of the situation.

4.4

Fire Watch.

4.4.1 *

The fire watch shall be trained to

understand the

recognize inherent hazards of the work site and

of the

hot work operations .

4.4.

2

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2

The fire watch shall ensure

that

safe conditions are maintained during hot work operations.

4.4.

3 3

The fire watch shall have the authority to stop

the

hot work operations if unsafe conditions develop.

4.4.4 *

The fire watch shall

have

be trained in all of the following:

(1) Use of fire-extinguishing equipment

(2) Keep fire-extinguishing equipment readily available

and shall be trained in its use.

(1)

(2) Facility fire protection and safety equipment

(3) How to sound an alarm if a fire were to occur

4.4.

5 5

The fire watch shall be

familiar with the facilities and procedures for sounding an alarm in the event of a fire

responsible for watching for fires in all exposed areas .

4.4.

6 5.1

The fire watch shall

watch for fires in all exposed areas and

try to extinguish

them

fires only when

the fires are obviously within

within their training and the capacity of the equipment available.

4.4.5.2

If the fire

watch determines that the fire is not within the capacity of the equipment

cannot be immediately extinguished , the fire watch shall sound the alarm

immediately

.

4.4.

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76 *

The fire watch shall be permitted to perform additional tasks

, but those

.

4.4.6.1

The additional tasks shall not distract

him or her

from

his or her

fire watch responsibilities

, except as outlined in

.

4.4.6.2

Sole proprietors and individual operators shall be exempt from the requirements of 4.4.6.1 when operatingin compliance with Chapter 6 .

4.5 *

Contractors.

4.5.1

Before starting

any

hot work, contractors and their clients shall discuss the planned project

completely

,

including the type of hot work to be conducted

method of procedure (MOP), and the hazards in the area.

4.

6 Mutual Responsibility5 .

Management, contractors, the PAI, the fire watch, and the operators shall recognize their mutualresponsibility for safety in hot work operations

2

The contractor shall have PAI approval to proceed with hot work .

Additional Proposed Changes

File Name Description Approved

NFPA_51B-CH4.docx Final version of proposed public input.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input

Edited to comply with the Manual of Style Chapter 3. Lists may only have one shall at the charging sentence or a shall in each list item, but none in the charging sentence. Each list item must be a word, phrase, or sentence but not a combination of these. Only 1 sentence is allowed per list item (3.3.1).The use of titles for subsections shall be optional but consistent; that is, if one subsection within a section is to be titled, all subsections in that section

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shall also be titled (1.8.3.2).There was an attempt to eliminate unenforceable terms (2.2.2). Superfluous use of "any" and "all" were struck from the text. Sentences that did not contain a requirement were deleted such as section 4.6.

Related Public Inputs for This Document

Related Input Relationship

Public Input No. 17-NFPA 51B-2015 [Global Input] Request to change the term "management"

Public Input No. 22-NFPA 51B-2015 [Section No. A.4.2.1]

Public Input No. 23-NFPA 51B-2015 [Section No. A.4.2.7]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Michael DeVore

Organization: State Farm Insurance Company

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Tue Nov 03 12:20:21 EST 2015

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4.1* General.  

4.1.1 Responsible Party. 

The responsible party shall ensure all of the following:  

(1) Safe operations maintained during hot work activity 

(2) Permit authorizing individual (PAI) designated 

(3) Permissible areas established for hot work 

(4) Awareness provided for site‐specific special hazards including, but not limited to: 

(a) Flammable materials 

(b) Hazardous processes (c) *Other potential fire hazards 

4.1.2 Equipment. 

4.1.2.1 

All equipment shall be examined to ensure it is in a safe operating condition. 

4.1.2.2     

When found to be incapable of reliable safe operation, equipment shall be repaired by qualified 

personnel prior to its next use or be withdrawn from service. 

4.1.2.3  

Equipment withdrawn from service shall be tagged out of service.  

4.1.3 Personnel.  

Employees or contractors performing hot work shall be familiar with the provisions of this standard. 

4.1.3.1     

Personnel performing hot work operations shall be trained in the safe operation of their equipment and 

in the safe use of the process. 

4.1.3.2     

Personnel performing hot work operations shall be aware of the inherent risks and understand the 

emergency procedures in the event of a fire. 

4.2 Permit Authorizing Individual (PAI).  

When issuing hot work permits, the PAI shall ensure safe operations by inspecting all of the following:  

(1) Location (2) Equipment 

(3) Personnel training credentials 

4.2.1*    

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When site‐specific special hazards exist, the PAI shall inform the hot work operator and fire watch of the 

appropriate personal protective equipment (PPE).  

4.2.2     

The PAI shall identify site‐specific flammable materials, hazardous processes, or other potential fire 

hazards that are present or likely to be present in the hot work location. 

4.2.3     

Hot work shall not be permitted unless combustibles are protected from ignition by any of the following 

means:  

(1) Using alternative methods to hot work  

(2) Moving the work to a location free of combustibles 

(3) Moving the combustibles to a safe distance  

(4) Shielding the combustibles against ignition 

(5) Scheduling hot work when operations are down that would produce combustibles in the hot 

work area 

4.2.4     

The PAI shall determine that required fire protection and extinguishing equipment are located at the hot 

work site. 

4.2.5     

Where a fire watch is required (see Section 5.5), the PAI shall be responsible for ensuring that a fire 

watch is at the site. 

4.2.6*    

Where a fire watch is not required, the PAI shall make a final check 1/2 hour after the completion of hot 

work operations to detect and extinguish smoldering fires. 

4.3 Hot Work Operator.  

4.3.1 

The hot work operator shall handle equipment safely so as not to endanger lives and property.  

4.3.2 

The operator shall have PAI approval before starting hot work operations. 

4.3.3 

Before starting hot work, the operator shall examine equipment in accordance with 4.1.2. 

4.3.4 

If unsafe conditions develop during hot work, the operator shall cease hot work operations and notify 

the PAI for reassessment of the situation. 

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4.4 Fire Watch.  

4.4.1*    

The fire watch shall be trained to recognize inherent hazards of the work site and hot work operations. 

4.4.2     

The fire watch shall ensure safe conditions are maintained during hot work operations. 

4.4.3     

The fire watch shall have the authority to stop hot work operations if unsafe conditions develop. 

4.4.4*    

The fire watch shall be trained in all of the following: 

(1) Use of fire‐extinguishing equipment 

(2) Keep fire‐extinguishing equipment readily available 

(3) Facility fire protection and safety equipment 

(4) How to sound an alarm if a fire were to occur 

4.4.5     

The fire watch shall be responsible for watching for fires in all exposed areas. 

4.4.5.1 

The fire watch shall try to extinguish fires only when within their training and the capacity of the 

equipment available. 

4.4.5.2 

If the fire cannot be immediately extinguished, the fire watch shall sound the alarm. 

4.4.6*    

The fire watch shall be permitted to perform additional tasks. 

4.4.6.1 

 The additional tasks shall not distract from fire watch responsibilities. 

4.4.6.2 

Sole proprietors and individual operators shall be exempt from the requirements of 4.4.6.1 when 

operating in compliance with Chapter 6. 

4.5* Contractors.  

4.5.1 

Before starting hot work, contractors and their clients shall discuss the planned project, method of 

procedure (MOP), and the hazards in the area.  

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4.5.2 

The contractor shall have PAI approval to proceed with hot work. 

 

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Public Input No. 48-NFPA 51B-2016 [ Section No. 4.1.5 ]

4.1.5

Management shall ensure that only approved listed and properly maintained apparatus, such as torches,manifolds, regulators or pressure-reducing valves, and acetylene generators, are used.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input

Reason Statement: How is management to ensure that an equipment item is approved for use? Relying on a listing for the design and testing of the equipment from the manufacturer and the listing organization enables management to accomplish this task and eliminates the judgment required to determine if an equipment item is approved or not. It is also important that management ensure the listed equipment has been maintained properly prior to using in a hazardous operation.

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Kelly Nicolello

Organization: UL llc

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Wed Jun 29 09:44:57 EDT 2016

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Public Input No. 20-NFPA 51B-2015 [ Chapter 5 ]

Chapter 5 Fire Prevention Precautions.

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5.1 *

Personal Protective Clothing.

Clothing shall be selected to

minimize the potential forresist ignition, burning, trapping hot sparks, and electric shock.

5.2

Permissible Areas.

5.2.1

General.

Hot work shall be permitted only in areas that are or have been made fire safe.

5.2.2

Designated or Permit-Required Areas.

Hot work shall be performed in either designated areas or permit-required areas.

5.2.2.1

Designated Areas.

5.2.2.1.

1 1

In order for a location to be a designated area, the area shall meet the requirements in 5.4.2 .

5.2.2.1.

2 2

Prior to the start of

anyhot work in a designated area, at a minimum, the hot work operator shall

performverify all of the following:

The location is verified as fire resistant.

The

(1) Fire resistance of the location

(2) Combustibles meet the requirements of 5.4.2 (3)

are met.

(1)

(2) Fire extinguishers

are

(1) in working condition and readily available

.

(1)

(2) Ventilation

is

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(1) working properly

.

(1)

(2) Equipment

is

(1) in working order

.

(1)

5.2.2.1.

3 3

Permanent areas designated for hot work shall be reviewed at least annually by the Permit AuthorizingIndividual ( PAI ) .

5.2.2.

2 1.4

Signs shall be posted designating hot work areas as deemed necessary by the PAI.

5.

3 * Nonpermissible2.2.2* Permit-Required Areas.

A written hot work permit shall be required before hot work operations begin in a permit-required location.

5.3* Non-permissible Areas.

Hot work shall not be permitted in the following

areas:

In areas

(1) Areas not authorized by

management

(1) the responsible party

(2) In

sprinklered

(1) buildings where sprinklers are impaired

, unless the requirements of NFPA 25, Standard for the Inspection, Testing, and Maintenance ofWater-Based Fire Protection Systems , are met

(1)

(2) In the presence of explosive atmospheres

(i.e., where mixtures of flammable gases, vapors, liquids, or dusts with air exist)

(1)

(2) In the presence of

uncleaned

(1) uncleansed or improperly prepared equipment, drums, tanks, or other containers that have previouslycontained materials that could develop explosive atmospheres

(2) In areas with

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an accumulation of combustible dusts that could develop explosive atmospheres

(1) potential fire, flash fire, or explosion hazards associated with the presence of one or more combustibleparticulate solids (dusts)

5.4 *

Hot Work Permit.

5.4.

1 * 1

Before

hot work operations begin ina

nondesignated location, a writtenhot work permit

by the PAI shall be required.is issued, the conditions in 5.4.1.1 through 5.4.

2 Before a hot work permit is issued, the following conditions1.15 shall be verified by the PAI

:.

5.4.1.1

The hot work equipment to be used shall be in satisfactory operating condition and in good repair.

5.4.1.2

Where combustible materials, such as paper clippings, wood shavings, or textile fibers, are on the floor, thefloor shall be swept clean for a radius of 35 ft (11 m)

, and the following criteria also shall be met: .

5.4.1.2.1*

Combustible floors shall be kept wet, covered with damp sand, or protected by a listed welding blanket,welding pad, or equivalent.

5.4.1.2.2

Where floors have been wet down, personnel operating arc welding equipment or cutting equipment shallbe protected from possible electrical shock.

All combustibles5.4.1.3*

Combustibles shall be relocated at least 35 ft (11 m) in all directions from the work site

, and the following criteria also shall be met: .

5.4.1.3.1*

If relocation is impractical, combustibles shall be protected by a listed welding curtain, welding blanket,welding pad, or equivalent.

5.4.1.3.2

To prevent the entrance of sparks, the edges of covers at the floor shall be tight, including at the point

at which severalwhere covers overlap

where a large pile is being protected.

5.4.1.4

Openings or cracks in walls, floors, or ducts within 35 ft (11 m) of the work site shall be covered or sealed

*

*

*

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with listed fire-rated or noncombustible material to prevent the passage of sparks to adjacent areas.

5.4.1.5

Ducts and conveyor systems that might carry sparks to distant combustibles shall be shielded, shut down,or both.

5.4.1.6 *

If hot work is done near walls, partitions, ceilings, or roofs of combustible construction, they shall beprotected by a listed welding curtain, welding blanket, welding pad, or equivalent.

5.4.1.7

If hot work is done on one side of a wall, partition, ceiling, or roof,

one ofeither the

following criteria shall be met:criteria in 5.4.1.7.1 or 5.4.1.7.2 shall apply.

5.4.1.7.1

Precautions shall be taken to prevent ignition of combustibles on the other side by relocating thecombustibles.

5.4.1.7.2

If it is impractical to relocate combustibles, a fire watch shall be provided on the side opposite from wherethe work is being performed.

5.4.1.8

Hot work shall not be attempted on a partition, wall, ceiling, or roof that has a combustible covering orinsulation, or on walls or partitions of combustible sandwich-type panel construction.

5.4.1.9

Hot work that is performed on pipes or other metal that is in contact with combustible walls, partitions,ceilings, roofs, or other combustibles shall not be undertaken if the work is close enough to cause ignitionby conduction.

5.4.1.10

Fully charged and operable fire extinguishers that are appropriate for the type of possible fire shall beavailable immediately at the work area.

5.4.1.11

If existing hose lines are located within the hot work area defined by the permit, they shall be connectedand ready for service but shall not be required to be unrolled or charged.

The following shall apply to 5.4.1.12

For hot work done in close proximity to a

sprinkler head:fire protection system, the criteria in 5.4.1.12.1 and 5.4.1.12.2 shall apply.

5.4.1.12.1

A wet rag shall be laid over the sprinkler head and then removed at the conclusion of the

welding or cuttinghot work operation.

5.4.1.12.2

During hot work, special precautions shall be taken to avoid accidental operation of automatic fire detectionor

suppression systems (e.g.,special extinguishing systems

or sprinklers).

5.4.1.13

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The operator and nearby personnel shall be suitably protected against dangers such as heat, sparks, andslag.

5.4.1.14 *

In instances where the scope of work and the tools used to conduct hot work result in possible travel ofslag, sparks, spatter, or similar mobile sources of ignition farther than 35 ft (11 m), the PAI shall bepermitted to extend the distances and areas addressed in 5.4. 1. 2

(2)through 5.4.

2 (1. 4

).

5.4.1.15 *

In instances where the scope of work and tools used to conduct hot work are known to be incapable ofgenerating slag, sparks, spatter, or similar mobile sources of ignition capable of leaving the immediate areaof the applied hot work, the PAI shall be permitted to

doreduce the

following: Reduce thedistances and areas addressed in 5.4. 1. 2

(2)through 5.4.

2 (4) to distances and areas that he or she considers fire safe for the intended operationDescribe thosedistances and areas1.4.

5.4.2

The PAI shall describe any separation distance extension or reduction on the hot work permit .

5.4.

3 3

The PAI shall determine the

length of theperiod for which the hot work permit is valid.

5.4.

3.1 4

The hot work permit shall not be valid for a period exceeding 24 hours.

5.4.

4 5

The

areaPAI shall

be inspected by the PAIinspect the hot work area at least once per shift

whileduring the hot work permit

is in effectperiod to ensure

that it is

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a fire-safe area.

5.5

Fire Watch.

5.5.1 *

A fire watch shall be required by the PAI when hot work is performed in a location where other than a minorfire might develop or where any of the following conditions exist:

(1) * Combustible materials in building construction or contents

are

(1) closer than 35 ft (11 m) to the

point of

(1) hot work operation

.

(1)

(2) Combustible materials

are

(1) more than 35 ft (11 m) away from the

point of

(1) hot work operation but

are

(1) easily ignited by sparks

.

(1)

(2) Wall or floor openings within a 35 ft (11 m) radius expose combustible materials in adjacent areas,including concealed spaces in walls or floors

.

(1)

(2) Combustible materials

are

(1) adjacent to the opposite side of partitions, walls, ceilings, or roofs and

are

(1) likely to be ignited

.

(1)

5.5.

2 1.1

A fire watch shall be maintained for at least 1

⁄/ 2 hour after completion of hot work operations in order to detect and extinguish smoldering fires.

5.5.1.2

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The PAI shall extend the duration of the fire watch

shall be extendedif the

PAI determines thefire hazards

warrant the extensioncontinue to be present .

5.5.

32 *

More than one fire watch shall be required if combustible materials that could be ignited by the hot workoperation cannot be directly observed by the initial fire watch.

5.6 *

Hot Tapping.

Hot tapping or other cutting and welding on a flammable gas or liquid transmission or distribution utilitypipeline shall be performed by a crew

that isqualified to make hot taps.

5.7

Cylinders.

Cylinder use and storage shall be in accordance with NFPA 55, Compressed Gases and Cryogenic FluidsCode .

Additional Proposed Changes

File Name Description Approved

NFPA_51B-CH5.docx Final edited text for public input

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input

Edited to comply with the Manual of Style Chapter 3. Lists may only have one shall at the charging sentence or a shall in each list item, but none in the charging sentence. Each list item must be a word, phrase, or sentence but not a combination of these. Only 1 sentence is allowed per list item (3.3.1).The use of titles for subsections shall be optional but consistent; that is, if one subsection within a section is to be titled, all subsections in that section shall also be titled (1.8.3.2).There was an attempt to eliminate unenforceable terms (2.2.2). Superfluous use of "any" and "all" were struck from the text.

Related Public Inputs for This Document

Related Input Relationship

Public Input No. 17-NFPA 51B-2015 [Global Input]Request to replace the term"management"

Public Input No. 24-NFPA 51B-2015 [Section No. A.5.4.1]

Public Input No. 25-NFPA 51B-2015 [Section No.A.5.4.2(2)(a)]

Public Input No. 26-NFPA 51B-2015 [Section No. A.5.4.2(3)]

Public Input No. 27-NFPA 51B-2015 [Section No.A.5.4.2(3)(a)]

Public Input No. 28-NFPA 51B-2015 [Section No. A.5.4.2(6)]

Public Input No. 29-NFPA 51B-2015 [Section No. A.5.4.2(14)]

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Public Input No. 30-NFPA 51B-2015 [Section No. A.5.4.2(15)]

Public Input No. 31-NFPA 51B-2015 [Section No. A.5.5.3]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Michael DeVore

Organization: State Farm Insurance Company

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Tue Nov 03 13:55:56 EST 2015

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5.1* Personal Protective Clothing.  

Clothing shall be selected to resist ignition, burning, trapping hot sparks, and electric shock.  

5.2 Permissible Areas.  

5.2.1 General.    

Hot work shall be permitted only in areas that are or have been made fire safe. 

5.2.2 Designated or Permit‐Required Areas.    

Hot work shall be performed in either designated areas or permit‐required areas. 

5.2.2.1 Designated Areas.    

5.2.2.1.1     

In order for a location to be a designated area, the area shall meet the requirements in 5.4.2. 

5.2.2.1.2     

Prior to the start of hot work in a designated area, at a minimum, the hot work operator shall verify all 

of the following:  

(1) Fire resistance of the location (2) Combustibles meet the requirements of 5.4.2(3) 

(3) Fire extinguishers in working condition and readily available (4) Ventilation working properly (5) Equipment in working order 

5.2.2.1.3     

Permanent areas designated for hot work shall be reviewed at least annually by the Permit Authorizing 

Individual (PAI). 

5.2.2.1.4 

Signs shall be posted designating hot work areas as deemed necessary by the PAI. 

5.2.2.2* Permit‐Required Areas.   

A written hot work permit shall be required before hot work operations begin in a permit‐required 

location. 

5.3* Non‐permissible Areas.  

Hot work shall not be permitted in the following:  

(1) Areas not authorized by the responsible party (2) In buildings where sprinklers are impaired 

(3) In the presence of explosive atmospheres 

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(4) In the presence of uncleansed or improperly prepared equipment, drums, tanks, or other 

containers that have previously contained materials that could develop explosive 

atmospheres 

(5) In areas with potential fire, flash fire, or explosion hazards associated with the presence of one or more combustible particulate solids (dusts) 

5.4* Hot Work Permit.  

5.4.1   

Before a hot work permit is issued, the conditions in 5.4.1.1 through 5.4.1.15 shall be verified by the PAI.  

5.4.1.1 

The hot work equipment to be used shall be in satisfactory operating condition and in good repair. 

5.4.1.2 

Where combustible materials, such as paper clippings, wood shavings, or textile fibers, are on the floor, 

the floor shall be swept clean for a radius of 35 ft (11 m).  

5.4.1.2.1*  

Combustible floors shall be kept wet, covered with damp sand, or protected by a listed welding blanket, 

welding pad, or equivalent.  

5.4.1.2.2 

Where floors have been wet down, personnel operating arc welding equipment or cutting equipment 

shall be protected from possible electrical shock. 

5.4.1.3*  

Combustibles shall be relocated at least 35 ft (11 m) in all directions from the work site. 

5.4.1.3.1*  

If relocation is impractical, combustibles shall be protected by a listed welding curtain, welding blanket, 

welding pad, or equivalent.  

5.4.1.3.2 

To prevent the entrance of sparks, the edges of covers at the floor shall be tight, including at the point 

where covers overlap. 

5.4.1.4 

Openings or cracks in walls, floors, or ducts within 35 ft (11 m) of the work site shall be covered or 

sealed with listed fire‐rated or noncombustible material to prevent the passage of sparks to adjacent 

areas.  

5.4.1.5 

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Ducts and conveyor systems that might carry sparks to distant combustibles shall be shielded, shut 

down, or both. 

5.4.1.6*  

If hot work is done near walls, partitions, ceilings, or roofs of combustible construction, they shall be 

protected by a listed welding curtain, welding blanket, welding pad, or equivalent.  

5.4.1.7 

If hot work is done on one side of a wall, partition, ceiling, or roof, either the criteria in 5.4.1.7.1 or 

5.4.1.7.2 shall apply. 

5.4.1.7.1 

Precautions shall be taken to prevent ignition of combustibles on the other side by relocating the 

combustibles. 

5.4.1.7.2 

If it is impractical to relocate combustibles, a fire watch shall be provided on the side opposite from 

where the work is being performed. 

5.4.1.8 

Hot work shall not be attempted on a partition, wall, ceiling, or roof that has a combustible covering or 

insulation, or on walls or partitions of combustible sandwich‐type panel construction. 

5.4.1.9 

Hot work that is performed on pipes or other metal that is in contact with combustible walls, partitions, 

ceilings, roofs, or other combustibles shall not be undertaken if the work is close enough to cause 

ignition by conduction. 

5.4.1.10  

Fully charged and operable fire extinguishers that are appropriate for the type of possible fire shall be 

available immediately at the work area. 

5.4.1.11 

If existing hose lines are located within the hot work area defined by the permit, they shall be connected 

and ready for service but shall not be required to be unrolled or charged. 

 5.4.1.12 

For hot work done in close proximity to a fire protection system, the criteria in 5.4.1.12.1 and 5.4.1.12.2 

shall apply.  

5.4.1.12.1 

A wet rag shall be laid over the sprinkler head and then removed at the conclusion of the hot work 

operation. 

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5.4.1.12.2 

During hot work, special precautions shall be taken to avoid accidental operation of automatic fire 

detection or special extinguishing systems. 

5.4.1.13 

The operator and nearby personnel shall be suitably protected against dangers such as heat, sparks, and 

slag.  

5.4.1.14*  

In instances where the scope of work and the tools used to conduct hot work result in possible travel of 

slag, sparks, spatter, or similar mobile sources of ignition farther than 35 ft (11 m), the PAI shall be 

permitted to extend the distances and areas addressed in 5.4.1.2 through 5.4.1.4.  

5.4.1.15* 

In instances where the scope of work and tools used to conduct hot work are known to be incapable of 

generating slag, sparks, spatter, or similar mobile sources of ignition capable of leaving the immediate 

area of the applied hot work, the PAI shall be permitted to reduce the distances and areas addressed in 

5.4.1.2 through 5.4.1.4.  

5.4.2 

The PAI shall describe any separation distance extension or reduction on the hot work permit. 

5.4.3     

The PAI shall determine the period for which the hot work permit is valid. 

5.4.4 

The hot work permit shall not be valid for a period exceeding 24 hours.  

5.4.5    

The PAI shall inspect the hot work area at least once per shift during the hot work permit period to 

ensure a fire‐safe area.  

5.5 Fire Watch.  

5.5.1*    

A fire watch shall be required by the PAI when hot work is performed in a location where other than a 

minor fire might develop or where any of the following conditions exist:  

(1) *Combustible materials in building construction or contents closer than 35 ft (11 m) to the 

hot work operation 

(2) Combustible materials more than 35 ft (11 m) away from the hot work operation but easily 

ignited by sparks 

(3) Wall or floor openings within a 35 ft (11 m) radius expose combustible materials in adjacent 

areas, including concealed spaces in walls or floors 

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(4) Combustible materials adjacent to the opposite side of partitions, walls, ceilings, or roofs 

and likely to be ignited 

5.5.1.1    

A fire watch shall be maintained for at least 1/2 hour after completion of hot work operations in order 

to detect and extinguish smoldering fires.  

5.5.1.2 

The PAI shall extend the duration of the fire watch if the fire hazards continue to be present.  

5.5.2*    

More than one fire watch shall be required if combustible materials that could be ignited by the hot 

work operation cannot be directly observed by the initial fire watch. 

5.6* Hot Tapping.  

Hot tapping or other cutting and welding on a flammable gas or liquid transmission or distribution utility 

pipeline shall be performed by a crew qualified to make hot taps. 

5.7 Cylinders.  

Cylinder use and storage shall be in accordance with NFPA 55, Compressed Gases and Cryogenic Fluids 

Code. 

 

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5.2.2.1.2

Prior to the start of any hot work in a designated area, at a minimum, the hot work operator shall performensure the following:

(1) The location is verified as fire is fire resistant.

(2) The requirements of 5.4.2 (3) are met.

(3) Fire extinguishers are in working condition and readily available.

(4) Ventilation is working properly.

(5) Equipment is in working order.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input

The charging statement uses "perform," but items 1-5 do not readily fit with the word "perform," but would fit with ensure. Ensure is more specific than verify.

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Jim Muir

Organization: Building Safety Division, Clark County, Washington

Affilliation: NFPA's Building Code Development Committee (BCDC)

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

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5.3.1 Preparing Nonpermissible Areas for conversion to Permissible Areas to for allow safe hotwork

In building areas where automatic sprinkler protection is impaired, removal of combustible loading(contents/construction) or complete isolation of said combustibles with a 30-minute fire ratedbarrier within the proposed hot work area applying the minimum 35-ft space separation rule, isrequired.

Clean and remove all flammable gas, flammable/combustible liquid, and/or combustible dust fromthe proposed hot work area following the minimum 35-ft space separation rules. Isolate potentialsources of flammable gas, flammable/combustible liquid, and/or combustible dust/lint that may bereleased into the hot work area during work. Inert any exposed tanks, vessels, or piping systems. Conduct a job safety analysis to identify sources of these materials, and to determine theappropriate isolation method.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input

There are going to be situations where hot work must be done within Nonpermissible Areas which then will require necessary actions to prepare such environments to allow hot work to be conducted safely. Omitting these requirements from 51B by simply mandating that hot work cannot be done in these areas, invites the public to ignore what can be viewed as an impractical standard resulting in improper hot work within environments that will represent severe risk to human life and property.

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Ruby Evans

Organization: FM Global

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

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5.3 * Nonpermissible Areas.

Hot work shall not be permitted in the following areas:

(1) In areas not authorized by management

(2) In sprinklered buildings where sprinklers are impaired, unless the requirements of NFPA 25, Standardfor the Inspection, Testing, and Maintenance of Water-Based Fire Protection Systems , are met

(3) In the presence of explosive atmospheres (i.e., where mixtures of flammable gases, vapors, liquids, ordusts with air exist)

(4) In the presence of uncleaned or improperly prepared equipment, drums, tanks, or other containersthat have previously contained materials that could develop explosive atmospheres

(5) In areas with an accumulation of combustible dusts that could develop explosive atmospheres

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input

The referenced requirements in NFPA 25 (section 15) currently noted in NFPA 51B section 5.3, are vague and open to wide interpretation as to what conditions represent allowable/acceptable “risks” from hot work operations within buildings with impaired automatic sprinkler protection (see copied/highlighted sections from NFPA 25 2014).It is proposed to strike these NFPA 25 references from NFPA 51B and replace them with a section following addressing proper preparation of Nonpermissible areas due to impaired automatic sprinkler protection to convert the area to a Permissible hot work environment.

NFPA 25 Referenced Sections15.1.1.2 Measures shall be taken during the impairment to ensure that increased risks are minimized and the duration of the impairment is limited.15.5.2 Before authorization is given, the impairment coordinator shall be responsible for verifying that the following procedures have been implemented:(1) The extent and expected duration of the impairment have been determined.(2) The areas or buildings involved have been inspected and the increased risks determined.(3) Recommendations to mitigate any increased risks have been submitted to management or the property owner or designated representative.(4) Where a fire protection system is out of service for more than 10 hours in a 24-hour period, the impairment coordinator shall arrange for one of the following:(a) Evacuation of the building or portion of the building affected by the system out of service(b)*An approved fire watch(c)*Establishment of a temporary water supply(d)*Establishment and implementation of an approved program to eliminate potential ignition sources and limit the amount of fuel available to the fire

A.15.5.2(4)(d) Depending on the use and occupancy of the building, it could be enough in some circumstances to stop certain processes in the building or to cut off the flow of fuelto some machines. It is also helpful to implement “No Smoking” and “No Hot Work” (cutting, grinding, or welding) policies while the system is out of service because these activitiesare responsible for many fire ignitions.

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Ruby Evans

Organization: FM Global

Street Address:

City:

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Zip:

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TITLE OF NEW CONTENT

Type your content here ...5.4.2.1 Portable fire extinguishers shall be inspected and maintained inaccordance with NFPA 10.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input

Conducting periodic inspections, maintenance, and hydrostatic testing of portable fire extinguishers in accordance with NFPA 10 will help ensure that the extinguishers will operate properly during a fire emergency.

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Jennifer Boyle

Organization: FEMA

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu Jun 23 14:51:46 EDT 2016

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Before a hot work permit is issued, the following conditions shall be verified by the PAI:

(1) The hot work equipment to be used shall be in satisfactory operating condition and in good repair.

(2) Where combustible materials, such as paper clippings, wood shavings, or textile fibers, are on thefloor, the floor shall be swept clean for a radius of 35 ft (11 m), and the following criteria also shall bemet:

(3)

(4) Where floors have been wet down, personnel operating arc welding equipment or cuttingequipment shall be protected from possible shock.

(5)

If relocation is impractical, combustibles shall be protected by a

(a)

welding

(a)

, welding

(a)

, or equivalent

(a)

(b)

pile

(a)

(6) Openings or cracks in walls, floors, or ducts within 35 ft (11 m) of the site shall be covered or sealedwith listed fire-rated or noncombustible material to prevent the passage of sparks to adjacent areas.

(7) Ducts and conveyor systems that might carry sparks to distant combustibles shall be shielded, shutdown, or both.

(8)

(9) If hot work is done on one side of a wall, partition, ceiling, or roof, one of the following criteria shall bemet:

(10) Precautions shall be taken to prevent ignition of combustibles on the other side by relocating thecombustibles.

(11) If it is impractical to relocate combustibles, a fire watch shall be provided on the side oppositefrom where the work is being performed.

(12) Hot work shall not be attempted on a partition, wall, ceiling, or roof that has a combustible covering orinsulation, or on walls or partitions of combustible sandwich-type panel construction.

(13) Hot work that is performed on pipes or other metal that is in contact with combustible walls, partitions,ceilings, roofs, or other combustibles shall not be undertaken if the work is close enough to causeignition by conduction.

(14) Fully charged and operable fire extinguishers that are appropriate for the type of possible fire shall beavailable immediately at the work area.

* Combustible floors shall be kept wet, covered with damp sand, or protected by a listedwelding blanket, welding pad, or equivalent.

* All combustibles shall be relocated removed at least 35 ft (11 m) in all directions from the worksite hot work area , and the following criteria also shall be met:

*

If a combustible item is immovable, it shall be shielded by a sealed barrier constructed ofnon-combustible materials or otherwise protected by a listed welding curtain,

welding blanket

or welding pad

.

To prevent the entrance of sparks, the edges of covers at the floor shall be tight, including at thepoint at which several covers overlap where a large

item is being protected.

* If hot work is done near walls, partitions, ceilings, or roofs of combustible construction, they shall beprotected by a listed welding curtain, welding blanket, welding pad, or equivalent.

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(15) If existing hose lines are located within the hot work area defined by the permit, they shall beconnected and ready for service but shall not be required to be unrolled or charged.

(16) The following shall apply to hot work done in close proximity to a sprinkler head:

(17) A wet rag shall be laid over the sprinkler head and then removed at the conclusion of thewelding or cutting operation.

(18) During hot work, special precautions shall be taken to avoid accidental operation of automaticfire detection or suppression systems (e.g., special extinguishing systems or sprinklers).

(19) The operator and nearby personnel shall be suitably protected against dangers such as heat, sparks,and slag.

(20)

(21)

(22)

(23)

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input

Amending the language in 5.4.2(3) and (3)(a) would permit only immovable combustibles that are properly protected from remaining in a hot work area which is in alignment with the requirements in OSHA 1926.352.

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: STEPHEN HANEY

Organization: NYU Langone Medical Center

Street Address:

City:

State:

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Submittal Date: Tue Oct 13 15:51:16 EDT 2015

* In instances where the scope of work and the tools used to conduct hot work result in possible travelof slag, sparks, spatter, or similar mobile sources of ignition farther than 35 ft (11 m), the PAI shall bepermitted to extend the distances and areas addressed in 5.4.2 (2) through 5.4.2 (4).

* In instances where the scope of work and tools used to conduct hot work are known to be incapableof generating slag, sparks, spatter, or similar mobile sources of ignition capable of leaving theimmediate area of the applied hot work, the PAI shall be permitted to do the following:

Reduce the distances and areas addressed in 5.4.2 (2) through 5.4.2 (4) to distances andareas that he or she considers fire safe for the intended operation

Describe those distances and areas on the hot work permit

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Public Input No. 16-NFPA 51B-2015 [ Section No. 5.4.2 ]

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Before a hot work permit is issued, the following conditions shall be verified by the PAI:

(1) The hot work equipment to be used shall be in satisfactory operating condition and in good repair.

(2) Where combustible materials, such as paper clippings, wood shavings, or textile fibers, are on thefloor, the floor shall be swept clean for a radius of 35 ft (11 m), and the following criteria also shall bemet:

(3)

(4) Where floors have been wet down, personnel operating arc welding equipment or cuttingequipment shall be protected from possible shock.

(5)

(6)

(7)

(8) Openings or cracks in walls, floors, or ducts within 35 ft (11 m) of the site shall be covered or sealedwith listed fire-rated or noncombustible material to prevent the passage of sparks to adjacent areas.

(9) Ducts and conveyor systems that might carry sparks to distant combustibles shall be shielded, shutdown, or both.

(10)

(11) If hot work is done on one side of a wall, partition, ceiling, or roof, one of the following criteria shall bemet:

(12) Precautions shall be taken to prevent ignition of combustibles on the other side by relocating thecombustibles.

(13) If it is impractical to relocate combustibles, a fire watch shall be provided on the side oppositefrom where the work is being performed.

(14) A fire retardant blanket or protective screen should be used to sheild the combustables fromheat, sparks, and slag.

(15) Hot work shall not be attempted on a partition, wall, ceiling, or roof that has a combustible covering orinsulation, or on walls or partitions of combustible sandwich-type panel construction.

(16) Hot work that is performed on pipes or other metal that is in contact with combustible walls, partitions,ceilings, roofs, or other combustibles shall not be undertaken if the work is close enough to causeignition by conduction.

(17) Fully charged and operable fire extinguishers that are appropriate for the type of possible fire shall beavailable immediately at the work area.

(18) If existing hose lines are located within the hot work area defined by the permit, they shall beconnected and ready for service but shall not be required to be unrolled or charged.

(19) The following shall apply to hot work done in close proximity to a sprinkler head:

(20) A wet rag shall be laid over the sprinkler head and then removed at the conclusion of thewelding or cutting operation.

(21) During hot work, special precautions shall be taken to avoid accidental operation of automaticfire detection or suppression systems (e.g., special extinguishing systems or sprinklers).

(22) The operator and nearby personnel shall be suitably protected against dangers such as heat, sparks,and slag.

* Combustible floors shall be kept wet, covered with damp sand, or protected by a listedwelding blanket, welding pad, or equivalent.

* All combustibles shall be relocated at least 35 ft (11 m) in all directions from the work site, and thefollowing criteria also shall be met:

* If relocation is impractical, combustibles shall be protected by a listed welding curtain,welding blanket, welding pad, or equivalent.

To prevent the entrance of sparks, the edges of covers at the floor shall be tight, including at thepoint at which several covers overlap where a large pile is being protected.

* If hot work is done near walls, partitions, ceilings, or roofs of combustible construction, they shall beprotected by a listed welding curtain, welding blanket, welding pad, or equivalent.

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(23)

(24)

(25)

(26)

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input

This change would be an extra safety precaution when needing to perform hot work near combustibles that cannot be relocated.

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Sean Johnson

Organization: Cleveland Clinic

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Tue Oct 20 08:47:05 EDT 2015

* In instances where the scope of work and the tools used to conduct hot work result in possible travelof slag, sparks, spatter, or similar mobile sources of ignition farther than 35 ft (11 m), the PAI shall bepermitted to extend the distances and areas addressed in 5.4.2 (2) through 5.4.2 (4).

* In instances where the scope of work and tools used to conduct hot work are known to be incapableof generating slag, sparks, spatter, or similar mobile sources of ignition capable of leaving theimmediate area of the applied hot work, the PAI shall be permitted to do the following:

Reduce the distances and areas addressed in 5.4.2 (2) through 5.4.2 (4) to distances andareas that he or she considers fire safe for the intended operation

Describe those distances and areas on the hot work permit

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5.5.4 Hot Work Area Monitoring

Following the completion of the established fire watch time period, provide fire monitoring withinthe hot work area for up to an additional 3-hours.

A.5.5.4 The provision of additional hot work area monitoring should be determined based onconditions that will support hidden, smoldering fire conditions such as combustible construction,storage of bulk materials such as baled waste paper or piled trash, concealed spaces withinbuilding construction. Hot work area monitoring may be provided by: personnel working in thearea; automatic smoke detection; security or maintenance rounds through the hot work area every30-minutes; security cameras with smoke or fire detection capability.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input

FM Global loss history has shown that most hot work fires either start during the hot work activity or one hour or more after the hot work has been completed. In hot work fires where the fire has broken out more than one hour following the completion of hot work, the extent and severity of these fire incidents has often been far greater than other hot work caused fire incidents. With the financial challenge of maintaining fire watch personnel within the hot work area well beyond the completion of hot work activities, the provision of effective area fire monitoring will provide early warning of undetected smoldering fire conditions following the completion of the fire watch allowing for prompt manual response.

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Submitter Full Name: Ruby Evans

Organization: FM Global

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City:

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Public Input No. 40-NFPA 51B-2016 [ Section No. 5.5.2 ]

5.5.2

A fire watch shall be maintained for at least 1 ⁄ 2 hour after completion of hot work operations in order todetect and extinguish smoldering fires. The duration of the fire watch shall be extended if the PAIdetermines the fire hazards warrant the extension. Similarly, the duration of the fire watch can be reducedto ½ hour where the PAI determines the fire hazards warrant that reduction.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input

FM Global loss history has shown that most hot work fires either start during the hot work activity or one hour or more after the hot work has been completed. Establishing the minimum fire watch time period at one hour raises the awareness with the PAI of the potential fire risks involved if consideration of a reduced fire watch time period less than the established minimum is determined to be allowable. It is believed this proposed change will improve the quality of PAI decisions relative to the authorized fire watch time period.

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Ruby Evans

Organization: FM Global

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu May 12 11:49:31 EDT 2016

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Public Input No. 47-NFPA 51B-2016 [ New Section after 7.4.1 ]

TITLE OF NEW CONTENT

Type your content here ...7.4.1.1 Portable fire extinguishers shall be inspected and maintained inaccordance with NFPA 10.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input

Conducting periodic inspections, maintenance, and hydrostatic testing of portable fire extinguishers in accordance with NFPA 10 will help ensure that the extinguishers will operate properly during a fire emergency.

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Jennifer Boyle

Organization: FEMA

Street Address:

City:

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Submittal Date: Thu Jun 23 14:53:22 EDT 2016

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Public Input No. 42-NFPA 51B-2016 [ New Section after A.1.1.1 ]

Heat source Temperature

Electric arc 10,350 F to 21,150 F

Arc welding slag

6,350 F at weldinglocation,

4,900 F 1.5 ft away

4,000 F 16 ft away

Welding spatter3,350 F near welding rod;

2,850 F, 9 ft below

Oxy acetylene cutting slag 3,800 F

Material Ignition temperature

Wood products 410 – 930 F

Polyurethane foam (rigid) 1,020 F

Ethanol 690 F

Gasoline 570 – 660 F

Motor oil 450 F

Paraffin wax 470 F

Ignition Handbook (2003) – References Used With Permission – Dr. Vytenis Babrauskas

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input

Add the suggested tables to demonstrate a reference comparison between common hot work activities and their by-products and the ignition temperature of common combustible or flammable materials. Both of theses tables have been proposed for the NFPA Fire Protection Handbook, chapter on hot work fire safety.

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Ruby Evans

Organization: FM Global

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu May 12 12:02:33 EDT 2016

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Public Input No. 21-NFPA 51B-2015 [ Section No. A.4.1 ]

A.4.1

The committee recognizes that management the responsible pary might not always have expertise in hotwork and, therefore, would need a knowledgeable designated agent or contractor to act on its behalf.Examples of those who might not have the expertise can include owners of small retail shops, a smallapartment complex manager, or a grocery store owner who has no knowledge of hot work safe practices.

Management The responsible party should ensure that the contractor has evidence of financialresponsibility, which can take the form of an insurance certificate or other document attesting to coverage orresponsibility.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input

Management is an undefined term that includes all managers and none in particular. See global input.

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Public Input No. 22-NFPA 51B-2015 [ Section No. A.4.2.1 ]

A.4. 2 1 .1 (4)(c)

Other special hazards can include, but are not limited to, lead, noise, and radiation. Sometimes thesespecial hazards require disposable outer garments that can catch fire.

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Public Input No. 23-NFPA 51B-2015 [ Section No. A.4.2.7 ]

A.4.2. 7 6

The inspection is usually made 1⁄2 hour after the completion of hot work to detect and extinguish possiblesmoldering fires. The inspector should be alert for circumstances that can require an extension of the finalinspection interval.

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Public Input No. 24-NFPA 51B-2015 [ Section No. A.5.4.1 ]

A.5. 4.1 2.2.2

An example of a hot work permit is shown in Figure A.5.4.1. This permit can be modified to suit localconditions.

Figure A.5.4.1 Sample of a Hot Work Permit.

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Public Input No. 25-NFPA 51B-2015 [ Section No. A.5.4.2(2)(a) ]

A.5.4. 2(2)(a) 1.2.1

One such listing includes ANSI/FM 4950, Evaluating Welding Pads, Welding Blankets and WeldingCurtains for Hot Work Operations.

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Public Input No. 26-NFPA 51B-2015 [ Section No. A.5.4.2(3) ]

A.5.4. 2(3) 1.3

When hot work is performed at an elevated level, it should be noted that sparks or slag can fall at atrajectory and land farther than 35 ft (11 m) horizontally from a point directly under the hot work operator.

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Public Input No. 27-NFPA 51B-2015 [ Section No. A.5.4.2(3)(a) ]

A.5.4. 2(3)(a) 1.3.1

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Public Input No. 28-NFPA 51B-2015 [ Section No. A.5.4.2(6) ]

A.5.4. 2(6) 1.6

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Public Input No. 29-NFPA 51B-2015 [ Section No. A.5.4.2(14) ]

A.5.4. 2(14) 1.14

Hot work operations that might fall into the category where the 35 Foot Rule could be enlarged include, butare not limited to, elevated hot work and windy areas.

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Public Input No. 30-NFPA 51B-2015 [ Section No. A.5.4.2(15) ]

A.5.4. 2(15) 1.15

Hot work operations that might fall into the category where the 35 Foot Rule could be reduced include, butare not limited to, torch soldering, gas tungsten arc welding, heat gun operations, and handheld pen-typesoldering.

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Public Input No. 32-NFPA 51B-2015 [ Section No. A.5.4.2(15) ]

A.5.4.2(15)

Hot work operations that might fall into the category where the 35 Foot Rule could be reduced include, butare not limited to, torch soldering, gas tungsten arc welding, heat gun operations, and handheld pen-typesoldering.

I would like to state that the reference to heat gun operations, and handheld pen-type soldering areinappropriate examples as justification to reduce a hot work area as it is mt belief that neither of theseoperation would require a hot work permit.

NFPA 51B, 5.4.2 Allows the 35 rule to be reduced in instances where the scope of work and tools used toconduct hot work are known to be incapable of generating slag, sparks, spatter or similar mobile sources ofignition capable of leaving the immediate area of the applied hot work. The examples used in the hot workprocedure (heat gun operations, and handheld pen-type soldering- (Electric soldering irons ie. handheldpen-type soldering irons are specifically exempted by 51B)) should be remove as neither one of theseitems would require a hot work permit to be used. As written the users at my facility have interrupted thisas if I can reduce the area when I used a heat gun or handheld pen-type soldering I must be required tohave a permit to do the work. I do not believe this meets the intent of the code.

To evaluate if a heat gun needs a hot work permit the following questions needs to be asked.

Does the heat gun produce sparks, flames or heat in a similar manner as the processes listed below? Thekey words here is similar applications. NFPA 51B was not intended to address every item that producedheat only those activities that are similar to items 1 through 7.

(1) Welding and allied processes ------No, no molten metal or slag is produced

(2) Heat treating----No, typically heat treating involves open flames at high temperatures.

(3) Grinding---------No, a heat gun does not produce hot molten sparks

(4) Thawing pipe---No, pipes are typically thawed by a torch with an open flame. A heat gun does notproduce open flames.

(5) Powder-driven fasteners-------------No, not applicable. Heat guns are not capable of being used in thismanner

(6) Hot riveting----------------------------No, not applicable, Heat guns are not capable of being used in thismanner

(7)*Torch-applied roofing in conjunction with the requirements of NFPA 241, Standard for SafeguardingConstruction, Alteration, and Demolition Operations. ---No, not applicable. Heat guns are not capable ofbeing used as a torch.

(8) Similar applications producing or using a spark, flame, or heat

No, while a heat gun by definition does produce heat it is not a similar operation to items 1 through 7 and istherefore not require to be used under a hot work permit.

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Public_comment_NFPA_51B-RLM.docx Recommended change to A5.4.2(15)

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input

Public comment NFPA 51B, Section 5.4.2(15)

I would like to state that the reference to heat gun operations, and handheld pen-type soldering are inappropriate examples as justification to reduce a hot work area as it is mt belief that neither of these operation would require a hot work permit.NFPA 51B, 5.4.2 Allows the 35 rule to be reduced in instances where the scope of work and tools used to conduct

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hot work are known to be incapable of generating slag, sparks, spatter or similar mobile sources of ignition capable of leaving the immediate area of the applied hot work. The examples used in the hot work procedure (heat gun operations, and handheld pen-type soldering- (Electric soldering irons ie. handheld pen-type soldering irons are specifically exempted by 51B)) should be remove as neither one of these items would require a hot work permit to be used. As written the users at my facility have interrupted this as if I can reduce the area when I used a heat gun or handheld pen-type soldering I must be required to have a permit to do the work. I do not believe this meets the intent of the code.

To evaluate if a heat gun needs a hot work permit the following questions needs to be asked.

Does the heat gun produce sparks, flames or heat in a similar manner as the processes listed below? The key words here is similar applications. NFPA 51B was not intended to address every item that produced heat only those activities that are similar to items 1 through 7.

(1) Welding and allied processes ------No, no molten metal or slag is produced

(2) Heat treating----No, typically heat treating involves open flames at high temperatures.

(3) Grinding---------No, a heat gun does not produce hot molten sparks

(4) Thawing pipe---No, pipes are typically thawed by a torch with an open flame. A heat gun does not produce open flames.

(5) Powder-driven fasteners-------------No, not applicable. Heat guns are not capable of being used in this manner

(6) Hot riveting----------------------------No, not applicable, Heat guns are not capable of being used in this manner

(7)*Torch-applied roofing in conjunction with the requirements of NFPA 241, Standard for Safeguarding Construction, Alteration, and Demolition Operations. ---No, not applicable. Heat guns are not capable of being used as a torch.

(8) Similar applications producing or using a spark, flame, or heat

No, while a heat gun by definition does produce heat it is not a similar operation to items 1 through 7 and is therefore not require to be used under a hot work permit.

Dick Meester CETES&H Fire Safety

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Public comment NFPA 51B, Section 5.4.2 I would like to state that the reference to heat gun operations, and handheld pen-type soldering are inappropriate examples as justification to reduce a hot work area as it is mt belief that neither of these operation would require a hot work permit. NFPA 51B, 5.4.2 Allows the 35 rule to be reduced in instances where the scope of work and tools used to conduct hot work are known to be incapable of generating slag, sparks, spatter or similar mobile sources of ignition capable of leaving the immediate area of the applied hot work. The examples used in the hot work procedure (heat gun operations, and handheld pen-type soldering- (Electric soldering irons ie. handheld pen-type soldering irons are specifically exempted by 51B)) should be remove as neither one of these items would require a hot work permit to be used. As written the users at my facility have interrupted this as if I can reduce the area when I used a heat gun or handheld pen-type soldering I must be required to have a permit to do the work. I do not believe this meets the intent of the code. To evaluate if a heat gun needs a hot work permit the following questions needs to be asked. Does the heat gun produce sparks, flames or heat in a similar manner as the processes listed below? The key words here is similar applications. NFPA 51B was not intended to address every item that produced heat only those activities that are similar to items 1 through 7. (1) Welding and allied processes ------No, no molten metal or slag is produced (2) Heat treating----No, typically heat treating involves open flames at high temperatures. (3) Grinding---------No, a heat gun does not produce hot molten sparks (4) Thawing pipe---No, pipes are typically thawed by a torch with an open flame. A heat gun does not produce open flames. (5) Powder-driven fasteners-------------No, not applicable. Heat guns are not capable of being used in this manner (6) Hot riveting----------------------------No, not applicable, Heat guns are not capable of being used in this manner (7)*Torch-applied roofing in conjunction with the requirements of NFPA 241, Standard for Safeguarding Construction, Alteration, and Demolition Operations. ---No, not applicable. Heat guns are not capable of being used as a torch. (8) Similar applications producing or using a spark, flame, or heat

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No, while a heat gun by definition does produce heat it is not a similar operation to items 1 through 7 and is therefore not require to be used under a hot work permit. Dick Meester CET ES&H Fire Safety

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Public Input No. 31-NFPA 51B-2015 [ Section No. A.5.5.3 ]

A.5.5. 3 2

An additional fire watch(es) might be necessary in certain situations, such as where hot work is performednear open shafts or at elevated heights or where sparks can travel through spaces such as openings.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input

Changed section number to match public input for Chapter 5 to comply with the Manual of Style.

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Submitter Full Name: Michael DeVore

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Public Input No. 11-NFPA 51B-2015 [ Chapter C ]

Annex C Informational References

C.1 Referenced Publications.

The following documents or portions thereof are referenced within this standard for informational purposesonly and are thus not part of the requirements of this document unless also listed in Chapter 2.

C.1.1 NFPA Publications.

National Fire Protection Association, 1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA 02169–7471.

NFPA 1, Fire Code, 2012 edition.

NFPA 241, Standard for Safeguarding Construction, Alteration, and Demolition Operations, 2013 edition.

NFPA 326, Standard for the Safeguarding of Tanks and Containers for Entry, Cleaning, or Repair, 2010edition.

NFPA 655, Standard for Prevention of Sulfur Fires and Explosions, 2012 edition.

C.1.2 Other Publications.

C.1.2.1 ANSI Publications.

American National Standards Institute, Inc., 25 West 43rd Street, 4th Floor, New York, NY 10036.

ANSI /FM 4950, American National Standard for Evaluating Welding Pads, Welding Blankets and WeldingCurtains for Hot Work Operations , 2007.ANSI Z49.1, Safety in Welding, Cutting, and Allied Processes,2012.

C.1.2.2 ASME Publications.

American Society of Mechanical Engineers, Three ASME International , Two Park Avenue, New York,NY 10016-5990.

ASME B31.8, Gas Transmission and Distribution Piping Systems, 2010 2014 .

C.1.2.3 AWS Publications.

American Welding Society, 550 8869 N.W. LeJeune Road, 36 Street, # 130, Miami, FL33126 33166-6672 .

AWS F-4 F4 .1, Recommended Safe Practices for the Preparation for Welding and Cutting Containers andPiping, 2007.

C. 1. 2 .4 FM Publications.

FM Global, 270 Central Avenue, P.O. Box 7500, Johnston, RI, 02919-4923.

FM Approval 4950, Evaluating Welding Pads, Welding Blankets and Welding Curtains for HotWork Operations, 2007.

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C.2 Informational References.

The following documents or portions thereof are listed here as informational resources only. They are not apart of the requirements of this document.

NFPA 56, Standard for Fire and Explosion Prevention During Cleaning and Purging of Flammable GasPiping Systems, 2014 edition.

NFPA 61, Standard for the Prevention of Fires and Dust Explosions in Agricultural and Food ProcessingFacilities, 2013 edition.

NFPA 122, Standard for Fire Prevention and Control in Metal/Nonmetal Mining and Metal MineralProcessing Facilities, 2010 edition.

NFPA 306, Standard for the Control of Gas Hazards on Vessels, 2014 edition.

NFPA 312, Standard for Fire Protection of Vessels During Construction, Conversion, Repair, and Lay-Up,2011 edition.

NFPA 909, Code for the Protection of Cultural Resource Properties — Museums, Libraries, and Places ofWorship, 2013 edition.

C.3 References for Extracts in Informational Sections. (Reserved)

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input

Referenced current SDO names, addresses, standard names, numbers, and editions.

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Submitter Full Name: Aaron Adamczyk

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Submittal Date: Thu Jul 23 18:09:33 EDT 2015

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