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Meeting with Peter GadielGroup: Families for a Secure AmericaPhone:Address:May 14, 2003Present: TE,JKR,PGLocation: 2100 K StreetTime 9 a.m.Peter Gadiel lost his son on 9-11. James Gadiel was on the 103rd floor of WTC Northworking at Cantor Fitzgerald.After James' death, Peter resolved to work to improve the world to prevent futureterrorist acts.His group has 50 very active families, several hundred others are "involved"Gets some information from an anonymous whistleblower named "Juan Mann"Thesis: illegal immigration creates "underworld in which terrorists can thrive." Thepresence of massive numbers of illegal aliens also diverts government resources fromjobs that are priorities in the fight against terrorism.State and INS: a refusal to enforce the law ("courtesy culture")

Carelessness, attitude, same approach to driver's licenses, matricula cardsState:

Blocking the ability of families to sue countries for damages (Brenda Greenbergbelieves recovery by families hurts U.S. fight against terrorism);

Did Mary Ryan create Visa Express? On her own? Directed to do ft? Got abonus for period 4-16-01 -1-15-02?

Consul General Furey - Also got a bonus? "To reward stupidity - this doesn'twash something worse going on couldn't have acted in a rogue capacity"

RobinRafael - hadbeen inS.Asia and nowinvolved inIraq - put Saddam'sphysician in charge of Baghdad U. Said good things about the Taliban.

Resettling Afghanis andSudanese into theU.S. - provides a screen for terrorists. Richard Arrmtage - hated byfamilies- wasopposed to9-11 Commission -was

involved inunsavory aspects ofAfghan policy during Soviet occupation. Doesn'tcare enough about national security and victims.

MauraHarty - PG thinks shereviewed the9-11 hijackers' visa applications. Georgia Rogers - dumped byRyan, then put onpayroll byHarryas a

"consultant" Beth Payne - chosen by Harty to beconsular chief inBaghdad - cozy with the

House of Saud and showed it in failing to deal with children's issues prior to this. Ingeneral, Saudi stationed U.S. officials dowell after they leave - on thepayroll

of the Saudis.

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Diversity Lottery State destroys unsuccessful applications after offering them to the CIA, FBI? Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Sudan, Afghanistan, Yemen, Algeria, SA, Egypt, North Korea -

all participants?Visa Express

Thinks State lied about it in congressional testimony (judiciary and Int'l relationscmtees) and said rejection rate in SA was 31% versus the true 21%

Doesn't know exactly when it started? When ended, Howmany peopleinterviewed? Was it used elsewhere? What documentation of the program thereis?

Binalshibh: In Al jezerra interview said Alshehi and Ziad Jarrah were tailed afterentering the U.S. by U.S. intelligence agents. True?Many 9-11 families believe Bush knew about 9-11 attacks in advance. All believe he hassomething to hide as evidenced by: He opposed creation of the committee, he opposedthe commission getting the funds it needs to do its job, and he opposes giving thecommittee the documents it needs to do its work.

"No one can tell me the President really cares about my son."Other areas of concern:

Tri-border area: Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay Mexico, including

o Mexican separatist movement in the U.S.o U.S. funding La Raza inadvertently helping the terroristso OTMs coming into theU.S. through Mexico - thinks numbers of these are

increasing dramatically, true?o Mexican Consuls violating treaties by signing up Mexicans to get the

Consular Matricula cards here in the U.S.o Other govt's like Dominicans following suit

Non-immigrant worker program- H1Bo Companies, e.g. Cigna, bringing people here from overseas after

displacing workers here Visas for U.S. companies - foreign eesoverseas getvisas easily, true? Illegals working inmilitary facilitiesSaudis funding Moques in the U.S. to teach WahabismCrime and immigrants: e.g., meth

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