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 x z111 Understanding Deflection Checks Hi, Please see attached model of a portal frame where I am trying to carry out a deflection check on l hand post. while using CAN 1 command, Staad reads the nodal deflection at top of the column (694.2mm) and divides by 10mm (8000mm (post height) / 800 (DEFF parameter)) to get a UR. Now the same post, using CAN 0 parameter it gives me a UR of 11.4. I a m not sure how Staad calculates that!? For CAN 0 case, I have split member in to various segments and the UR (max) now is 11.4 (corresponding to a deflection of 110.4mm!) for member 5, with relative displacements for node 6 being (523.72 -491.74 ~32mm). I still can not obtain 110.4 deflection even while subtracting N6 or deflections from that at top of the post. Please suggest!! Structure1.std Answer Suggested  Pag e 1 of 3 Unders tandi ng Deflec tion Checks - Struc tural Ana lysis a nd Design - Forum - Structural A... 6/30/2015 http://communities.bentley.com/products/structural/structural_analysis___design/f/5932/t/...

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    Understanding Deflection ChecksHi,

    Please see attached model of a portal frame where I am trying to carry out a deflection check on lehand post. while using CAN 1 command, Staad reads the nodal deflection at top of the column (694.2mm) and divides by 10mm (8000mm (post height) / 800 (DEFF parameter)) to get a UR. Now fthe same post, using CAN 0 parameter it gives me a UR of 11.4. I am not sure how Staad calculates that!?

    For CAN 0 case, I have split member in to various segments and the UR (max) now is 11.4 (corresponding to a deflection of 110.4mm!) for member 5, with relative displacements for node 6 being (523.72 -491.74 ~32mm). I still can not obtain 110.4 deflection even while subtracting N6 or Ndeflections from that at top of the post.

    Please suggest!!

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    In Staad, the deflection check is carried by:

    Ratio = DFF / dff

    where dff = Length of the member / actual displacement

    and Dff = user defined ( 800 in this case )

    The actual deflection of the members are calculated from the line connecting the DJ1 and DJ2 node. (please see Deflection pic attached) . For these particular members, you have defined node 1as DJ1 and node 1 as DJ2.

    The actual deflection is the local deflection of the entire beam between node 1 and 1. This means you need to create a physical beam between node 1 and node 2, and find the local deflection of this beam .

    Now the actual deflection is calculated as : x2 + y 2 + z 2

    where x , y and z are the local deflection of the beam .

    So, the actual deflection is : 02 + 113.5792 + 02 = 113.579

    Dff = 8000/113/578 = 70.435 ( length of entire beam is 8m)

    Hence ratio = DFF/dff = 800/70.435 = 11.4

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  • xyz111

    Thanks.

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