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STONES
OPEN FORUMAberdeen 2009-12-06
© World Curling Federation2 |
STONES
4A= 64+2stones WCF 24001? to WCF 24066?
4B= 64+2 stones WCF 24101? to WCF 24166?
5A= 80+2 stones WCF 25001A to WCF 25082A
5B= 80+2 stones WCF 25101? to WCF 25182?
6A= 96+2 stones WCF 26001? to WCF 26098?
New WCF stone consignments(384 stones + 10 spares)
All these stones have been printed and measured and the differences in measurements demand adjustments to the running bands
© World Curling Federation3 |
STONES
running band inside diameterrunning band widthrunning band areaweight
80+2 stonesNew stone consignment 5A
4.5mm (120.6 to 125.1)1.96mm (5.36 to 7.32)8.46cm2 (21.54 to 30.00) 0.44kg (18.35 to 18.79)
1.4mm (122.4 to 123.8)0.15mm (5.53 to 5.68)0.62cm2 (22.35 to 23.00) 0.22kg (18.20 to 18.42)
Important measurements
for good stone quality
Old stone numbers were WCF 30xx, 32xx and 35xx (Blue Hone inserts)
New stone numbers are WCF 25001 to 25082
Old consignment New consignmentDifferences in:
The “real” running band and the roughness are not yet possible to measure in a safe way
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R&D STONES
Today
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R&D STONES
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R&D STONES
Leif ÖhmanLeif Öhman
Tomorrow(today)
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Ny curlingsten Uppsala
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Running band roughness
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Testing roughness meter
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Stone standing on hard surface (maybe hard ice)
Leif ÖhmanLeif Öhman
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Stone standing on softer surface (maybe soft ice)
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Stone standing on even softer surface
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Stone standing on very soft surface
Similar result as using rolling pin, but is this the stone surface towards the ice?
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R&D STONES
We need to develop a method to compare running bands and how they stands on ice
We also need to find a method to measure the surface structure (scratches)
When we know that we don’t need to match stones on ice any more
The knowledge about the different parts involved is not sufficient yet
Leif ÖhmanLeif Öhman
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STONES
Matching stones
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STONES
Stone thrower 8 stones (example)
To throw stones on ice is still the best matching method
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Other matching methods possible, but not developed
–Camera to see the stone movement (X;Y)
–Using total station to see the movement in x;y direction
–Measure the speed in two positions and calculate the friction coefficient to match the speed
© World Curling Federation18 |
Using cameras for matching the curling stones
R&D a camera method
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Camera
R&D a camera method
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R&D a camera method
•Automatic stone tracking•Records the position of the stones in the image•Translates to real world coordinates (X;Y)
Camera
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(x,y)
R&D a camera method
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Fitted according to eq(7)+eq(13)
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0.25
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16 18 20 22 24 26 28 30
Good precision
Far away, precision 3 cm
Estimated lambda = 2.49
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R&D automatic total station
Automatically measuring the stone movement with total station
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R&D Automatic total station
Result of the measuring
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STONES
Rubbing the running band?
Greenacres Curling Rink has played more than 3000 games with their stones and the movement is still 4 feet and 24 seconds without rubbing
“Crystal Ice” for high level competitions demands special running band rubbing
Should normal club stones be rubbed?
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R&D STONES
What happens in the long term when rubbing the stones?
A scratch in Granite
A scratch in Calcite
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Hair
A hair is approx. 50 um thick = 500-50 000 ggr thicker than the water film
On the top of all ice crystals there is an extreme thin water-like film
As colder as thinner
Ice Crystal
Thin watery film app. 0,002-0,1 um
R&D ICE
This gives wet friction
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R&D ICE
Wet friction is a prerequisite to have a curling stone to curl.
But why will a curling stone curl?
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R&D ICE
On wet friction surfaces the friction coefficient changes with the speed and the temperature
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R&D STONE CURL
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