Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input ...€¦ · include ANSI in the designation. The reference should be the full title, not an abbreviation. The Manual of Style

Public Input No. 2-NFPA 30A-2015 [ Global Input ]

Throughout standard remove references to the following and replace with thefollowing:

(1) ANSI/UL and replace with UL.

(2) ANSI Z129.1 and replace with ANSI Z400.1/Z129.1.

(3) API # and so on and replace API STD # or API RP #.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input

Referenced recommended updates to correlate with PI-3 and P1-4.

Related Public Inputs for This Document

Related Input Relationship

Public Input No. 3-NFPA 30A-2015 [SectionNo. 2.3]

Referenced current SDO addresses, standard numbers,names, and years.

Public Input No. 4-NFPA 30A-2015 [SectionNo. D.1.2]


Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Aaron Adamczyk

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Submittal Date: Fri Feb 06 23:51:05 EST 2015

Committee Statement

Resolution: A document search may not recognize abbreviations. If a standard has been recognized by ANSI, thegroup who has created the standard generally wants the document recognized as such and wouldinclude ANSI in the designation. The reference should be the full title, not an abbreviation. TheManual of Style should be referenced to ensure compliance with the formatting for references. TheANSI Z129.1 reference is updated in the appropriate annex sections.

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Public Input No. 39-NFPA 30A-2015 [ Section No. 1.1.3 ]

1.1.3*

This code shall not apply to those motor fuel dispensing facilities where only liquefied petroleum gas(LP-Gas), liquefied natural gas (LNG), or compressed natural gas (CNG), or hydrogen is dispensed asmotor fuel.


NFPA 2, Hydrogen Technologies Code, is not currently recognized in Chapter 1 Administration yet NFPA 2 contains two chapters on hydrogen fueling facilities (i.e. - Chapter 10 – GH2 Vehicle Fueling Facilities; and Chapter 11 – LH2 Fueling Facilities) as well as a chapter on repair garages servicing hydrogen-fueled vehicles (i.e. - Chapter 18 – Repair Garages). These requirements are contained only in NFPA 2 and nowhere else. Previous text in NFPA 52 has been removed. The Standards Council has revised the Scope of NFPA 52 and removed fueling of hydrogen-fuel cell vehicles (FCV). Therefore, fueling requirements for hydrogen are contained in NFPA 2 and the exclusion of section NFPA 30A 1.1.3 should be extended to hydrogen fueling as well as CNG and LPG.



Public Input No. 40-NFPA 30A-2015 [Section No. A.1.1.3]


Submitter Full Name: MARTIN GRESHO

Organization: FP2 FIRE INC

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Submittal Date: Wed Jul 01 17:30:24 EDT 2015

Committee Statement

Resolution: FR-1-NFPA 30A-2015

Statement: This change was made to be consistent with the committee scope.

Annex: It is appropriate to add the reference to NFPA 2, as hydrogen fueling is also addressed in thiscode.


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1.1.3*

This code shall not apply to those motor fuel dispensing facilities where only liquefied petroleum gas(LP-Gas), liquefied natural gas (LNG), or compressed natural gas (CNG), or hydrogen is dispensed asmotor fuel.


NFPA Standard Council has moved all hydrogen requirements from NFPA52 to NFPA2, including those for Motor Fueling Dispensing and Repair Garages. The 2011 version of the NFPA2 code had specific information on Dispensing, but not for Repair Garages (reserved). The 2016 version of NFPA2 will have specific requirements for Repair Garages and will be published prior to NFPA30A. Therefore, in order to prevent conflicting requirements, hydrogen should be excluded from NFPA30A, as is LPG, LNG, and CNG.



Public Input No. 23-NFPA 30A-2015 [Section No. 12.2.3]

Public Input No. 76-NFPA 30A-2015 [Section No. A.1.1.3]


Submitter Full Name: Spencer Quong

Organization: Quong & Associates Inc.

Affilliation: Toyota

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Submittal Date: Wed Mar 18 13:22:57 EDT 2015

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Public Input No. 41-NFPA 30A-2015 [ Section No. 2.2 ]

2.2 NFPA Publications.

National Fire Protection Association, 1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA 02169-7471.

NFPA 2, Hydrogen Technoloigies Code , 2016 edition.

NFPA 10, Standard for Portable Fire Extinguishers, 2013 edition.

NFPA 13, Standard for the Installation of Sprinkler Systems, 2013 edition.

NFPA 14, Standard for the Installation of Standpipe and Hose Systems, 2013 edition.

NFPA 30, Flammable and Combustible Liquids Code, 2015 edition.

NFPA 31, Standard for the Installation of Oil-Burning Equipment, 2011 edition.

NFPA 33, Standard for Spray Application Using Flammable or Combustible Materials, 2011 edition.

NFPA 51, Standard for the Design and Installation of Oxygen–Fuel Gas Systems for Welding, Cutting, andAllied Processes, 2013 edition.

NFPA 51B, Standard for Fire Prevention During Welding, Cutting, and Other Hot Work, 2014 edition.

NFPA 52, Vehicular Gaseous Fuel Systems Code, 2013 edition.

NFPA 54, National Fuel Gas Code, 2015 edition.

NFPA 55, Compressed Gases and Cryogenic Fluids Code, 2013 edition.

NFPA 58, Liquefied Petroleum Gas Code, 2014 edition.

NFPA 70® , National Electrical Code®, 2014 edition.

NFPA 72® , National Fire Alarm and Signaling Code, 2013 edition.

NFPA 80, Standard for Fire Doors and Other Opening Protectives, 2013 edition.

NFPA 82, Standard on Incinerators and Waste and Linen Handling Systems and Equipment, 2014 edition.

NFPA 85, Boiler and Combustion Systems Hazards Code, 2011 edition.

NFPA 86, Standard for Ovens and Furnaces, 2015 edition.

NFPA 90A, Standard for the Installation of Air-Conditioning and Ventilating Systems, 2015 edition.

NFPA 91, Standard for Exhaust Systems for Air Conveying of Vapors, Gases, Mists, and NoncombustibleParticulate Solids, 2010 edition.

NFPA 101® , Life Safety Code®, 2015 edition.

NFPA 211, Standard for Chimneys, Fireplaces, Vents, and Solid Fuel–Burning Appliances, 2013 edition.

NFPA 220, Standard on Types of Building Construction, 2015 edition.

NFPA 253, Standard Method of Test for Critical Radiant Flux of Floor Covering Systems Using a RadiantHeat Energy Source, 2011 edition.

NFPA 326, Standard for the Safeguarding of Tanks and Containers for Entry, Cleaning, or Repair, 2010edition.

NFPA 385, Standard for Tank Vehicles for Flammable and Combustible Liquids, 2012 edition.


Adds NFPA 2 2016 edition to list of references. NFPA 2, Hydrogen Technologies Code, is not currently referenced in Section 2.2 NFPA Publications. Terra seems to have added additional underlines but this is the only proposed change.


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Requirements for hydrogen refueling, hydrogen generation, hydrogen fuel cells, hydrogen-fueled vehicles in parking / repair garages, etc. are contained only in NFPA 2 and nowhere else. Previous text in NFPA 52 has been removed. The Standards Council has revised the Scope of NFPA 52 and removed fueling of hydrogen-fuel cell vehicles .




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Statement: Added reference to NFPA 2 since it is no longer excluded in Chapter 12.


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2.2 NFPA Publications.

National Fire Protection Association, 1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA 02169-7471.

NFPA 2, Hydrogen Technologies Code, 2016 edition

NFPA 10, Standard for Portable Fire Extinguishers, 2013 edition.

NFPA 13, Standard for the Installation of Sprinkler Systems, 2013 edition.

NFPA 14, Standard for the Installation of Standpipe and Hose Systems, 2013 edition.


NFPA 31, Standard for the Installation of Oil-Burning Equipment, 2011 edition.

NFPA 33, Standard for Spray Application Using Flammable or Combustible Materials, 2011 edition.

NFPA 51, Standard for the Design and Installation of Oxygen–Fuel Gas Systems for Welding, Cutting, andAllied Processes, 2013 edition.

NFPA 51B, Standard for Fire Prevention During Welding, Cutting, and Other Hot Work, 2014 edition.

NFPA 52, Vehicular Gaseous Fuel Systems Code, 2013 edition.

NFPA 54, National Fuel Gas Code, 2015 edition.

NFPA 55, Compressed Gases and Cryogenic Fluids Code, 2013 edition.

NFPA 58, Liquefied Petroleum Gas Code, 2014 edition.

NFPA 70® , National Electrical Code®, 2014 edition.

NFPA 72® , National Fire Alarm and Signaling Code, 2013 edition.

NFPA 80, Standard for Fire Doors and Other Opening Protectives, 2013 edition.

NFPA 82, Standard on Incinerators and Waste and Linen Handling Systems and Equipment, 2014 edition.

NFPA 85, Boiler and Combustion Systems Hazards Code, 2011 edition.

NFPA 86, Standard for Ovens and Furnaces, 2015 edition.

NFPA 90A, Standard for the Installation of Air-Conditioning and Ventilating Systems, 2015 edition.

NFPA 91, Standard for Exhaust Systems for Air Conveying of Vapors, Gases, Mists, and NoncombustibleParticulate Solids, 2010 edition.

NFPA 101® , Life Safety Code®, 2015 edition.

NFPA 211, Standard for Chimneys, Fireplaces, Vents, and Solid Fuel–Burning Appliances, 2013 edition.

NFPA 220, Standard on Types of Building Construction, 2015 edition.

NFPA 253, Standard Method of Test for Critical Radiant Flux of Floor Covering Systems Using a RadiantHeat Energy Source, 2011 edition.

NFPA 326, Standard for the Safeguarding of Tanks and Containers for Entry, Cleaning, or Repair, 2010edition.

NFPA 385, Standard for Tank Vehicles for Flammable and Combustible Liquids, 2012 edition.


The reference to NFPA2 is missing. In addition, the NFPA Standard Council has moved all hydrogen requirements from NFPA52 to NFPA2, including those for Motor Fueling Dispensing and Repair Garages. The 2011 version of the NFPA2 had specific information on Dispensing, but not for Repair Garages (reserved). The 2016 version of NFPA2 will have specific requirements for Repair Garages and will be published prior to NFPA30A.


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Submitter Full Name: Spencer Quong

Organization: Quong & Associates Inc.


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Submittal Date: Wed Mar 18 13:53:16 EDT 2015

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Statement: Added reference to NFPA 2 since it is no longer excluded in Chapter 12.


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2.3 Other Publications.

2.3.1 API Publications.

American Petroleum Institute, 1220 L Street, N.W., Washington, DC 20005-4070.

API 607 API STD 607 , Fire Test for Soft-Seated For Quarter-Turn Valvees And Valves EquippedWith Nonmetallic Seats , 5th 6th edition, June 2005 2010 .

2.3.2 ASTM Publications.

ASTM International, 100 Barr Harbor Drive, P.O. Box C700, West Conshohocken, PA 19428-2959.

ASTM D 5 D5 , Standard Test Method of Test for Penetration of Bituminous Materials, 2006 2013 .

ASTM D 56 D56 , Standard Test Method for Flash Point by Tag Closed Cup Tester, 2005, Reappoved2010 .

ASTM D 93 D93 , Standard Test Methods for Flash Point by Pensky-Martens Closed Cup Tester, 2013 e1 .

ASTM D 323 D323 , Standard Method of Test for Vapor Pressure of Petroleum Products (Reid Method),2008, Reapproved 2014 .

ASTM D 3278 D3278 , Standard Test Methods for Flash Point of Liquids by Small Scale Closed-CupApparatus, 1996, Reapproved 2011 .

ASTM D 3828 D3828 , Standard Test Methods for Flash Point of Liquids by Small Scale Closed Cup Tester,2012.

ASTM D 4359 D4359 , Standard Test for Determining Whether a Material in a Liquid or a Solid, 20061990, Reapproved 2012 .

2.3.3 UL Publications.

Underwriters Laboratories Inc., 333 Pfingsten Road, Northbrook, IL 60062-2096.

UL 87, Standard for Power-Operated Dispensing Devices for Petroleum Products, 2001, Revised 2008.

ANSI/ UL 842, Standard for Valves for Flammable Fluids, 2007, Revised 2011 201 4 .

ANSI/ UL 2080, Standard for Fire Resistant Tanks for Flammable and Combustible Liquids, 2000.

ANSI/ UL 2085, Standard for Protected Aboveground Tanks for Flammable and Combustible Liquids, 1997,Revised 2010.

UL 2245, Standard for Below-Grade Vaults for Flammable Liquid Storage Tanks, 2006.

ANSI/ UL 2586, Standard for Hose Nozzle Valves, 2011, Revised 2012 201 4 .

2.3.4 Other Publications.

Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary, 11th edition, Merriam-Webster, Inc., Springfield, MA, 2003.


Referenced current SDO standard names, and years.



Public Input No. 2-NFPA 30A-2015 [Global Input]

Public Input No. 4-NFPA 30A-2015 [Section No. D.1.2]



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Submittal Date: Fri Feb 06 23:53:13 EST 2015

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Statement: Updated to current reference editions.


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2.3.1 API Publications.


API Std 607, Fire Test for Soft-Seated Quarter-Turn Valves , 5th edition, June 2005. and Valves Equippedwith Non-Metallic Seats , 6th edition, 2010

API RP 1626, Storing and Handling of Ethanol and Gasoline-Ethanol Blends at Distribution Terminals andFilling Stations, 2nd Edition 2010 included Errata 1 (2011) and Addendum (2012)

API RP 1646, Safe Work Practices for Petroleum/Convenience Facilities Downstream Segment . 1stEdition, 2006


updates and correct referenced standard. Adds two new referenced RPs proposed for addition in this code.


Submitter Full Name: RICHARD KRAUS

Organization: APIPETROLEUM SAFETY CONSULTAN

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Submittal Date: Thu Jul 02 15:20:30 EDT 2015

Committee Statement

Resolution: The committee agreed that these references are more appropriately referenced in the annex. See FR16.


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2.3.3 UL Publications.


ANSI/ UL 79, Standard for Power-Operated Pumps for Petroleum Dispensing Products , 2014

ANSI/UL 79A Standard for Power-Operated Pumps for Gasoline and Gasoline/Ethanol Blends withNominal Ethanol Concentrations up to 85 Percent (E0 – E85) , 2015

UL 87, Standard for Power-Operated Dispensing Devices for Petroleum Products, 2001, Revised 2008.

ANSI/UL 87A, Standard for Power-Operated Dispensing Devices for Gasoline and Gasoline/EthanolBlends with Nominal Ethanol Concentrations Up to 85 Percent (E0-E85) , 2015

ANSI/UL 330, Standard for Hose and Hose Assemblies for Dispensing Flammable Liquids , 2013

UL 330A Outline of Investigation for Hose and Hose Assemblies for Use With Dispensing DevicesDispensing Gasoline and Gasoline/Ethanol Blends With Nominal Ethanol Concentrations Up To 85 Percent(E0 - E85) , 2012

ANSI/UL 567, Standard for Emergency Breakaway Fittings, Swivel Connectors and Pipe-ConnectionFittings for Petroleum Products and LP-Gas , 2014

ANSI/UL 567A Standard for Emergency Breakaway Fittings, Swivel Connectors and Pipe-ConnectionFittings for Gasoline and Gasoline/Ethanol Blends with Nominal Ethanol Concentrations up to 85 Percent(E0 - E85) , 2015

ANSI/UL 842, Standard for Valves for Flammable Fluids, 2007, Revised 2011.

ANSI/UL 842A Standard for Valves for Gasoline and Gasoline/Ethanol Blends with Nominal EthanolConcentrations up to 85 Percent (E0 - E85) , 2015

ANSI/UL 2080, Standard for Fire Resistant Tanks for Flammable and Combustible Liquids, 2000.

ANSI/UL 2085, Standard for Protected Aboveground Tanks for Flammable and Combustible Liquids, 1997,Revised 2010.

UL 2245, Standard for Below-Grade Vaults for Flammable Liquid Storage Tanks, 2006.

ANSI/UL 2586, Standard for Hose Nozzle Valves, 2011, Revised 2012.

ANSI/UL 2586A Standard for Hose Nozzle Valves for Gasoline and Gasoline/Ethanol Blends with NominalEthanol Concentrations up to 85 Percent (E0 - E85) , 2015


These standards have been added as reference standards in the body of the code, many of them were previously included in the annex. Corresponding code changes propose reference to these standards in the body of the code. This change will now allow them to be enforced rather than suggested to be followed.


Submitter Full Name: HOWARD HOPPER

Organization: UL LLC

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Committee Statement



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2.4 References for Extracts in Mandatory Sections.

NFPA 2, Hydrogen Technologies Code , 2016 edition.



Adds NFPA 2 2016 to the list in section 2.4. No other changes proposed despite what Terra may be showing.

NFPA 2, Hydrogen Technologies Code, is not currently referenced in Section 2.4 References for Extracts in Mandatory Sections. Requirements for hydrogen refueling, hydrogen generation, hydrogen fuel cells, hydrogen-fueled vehicles in parking / repair garages, etc. are contained only in NFPA 2 and nowhere else. Previous text in NFPA 52 has been removed. The Standards Council has revised the Scope of NFPA 52 and removed fueling of hydrogen-fuel cell vehicles (FCV). NFPA 30A contains section that are mandatory per NFPA 2. NFPA 2 is a mandatory reference.



Public Input No. 38-NFPA 30A-2015[Section No. 7.4.2]

The text proosed in 7.4.2 as well in other sections makes NFPA2 a mandatory reference.




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Resolution: CI-25-NFPA 30A-2015

Statement: Extracts from NFPA 2 have not yet been added to the code. This is being addressed by a task groupand may be added at the second draft stage.


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2.4 References for Extracts in Mandatory Sections.

NFPA 2, Hydrogen Technologies Code , 2016 edition.



NFPA Standard Council has moved all hydrogen requirements from NFPA52 to NFPA2, including those for Motor Fueling Dispensing and Repair Garages. The 2011 version of the NFPA2 had specific information on Dispensing, but not for Repair Garages (reserved). The 2016 version of NFPA2 will have specific requirements for Repair Garages and will be published prior to NFPA30A. PI 22 makes a mandatory reference to NFPA2.



Public Input No. 22-NFPA 30A-2015 [Section No. 7.4.2] PI 22 provides a mandatory reference to NFPA2


Submitter Full Name: SPENCER QUONG

Organization: QUONG & ASSOCIATES INC

Affilliation: TOYOTA

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Statement: Extracts from NFPA 2 have not yet been added to the code. This is being addressed by a task groupand may be added at the second draft stage.


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4.2 General Requirements.

4.2.1

Liquids shall be stored in the following:

(1) Approved closed containers that do not exceed 227 L (60 gal) capacity and are located outsidebuildings

(2) Tanks or approved closed containers located inside motor fuel dispensing facilities or repair garages

(3) Aboveground tanks, underground tanks, and containers in accordance with the requirements ofSection 4.3

(4) Tanks supplying marine service stations in accordance with Section 11.2

4.2.2

A motor fuel dispensing facility located at a bulk plant shall be separated from areas in which bulk plantoperations are conducted by a fence or other approved barrier. Dispensing devices at the motor fueldispensing facility shall not be supplied by aboveground tanks located in the bulk plant. Storage tanks atmotor fuel dispensing facilities shall not be connected by piping to aboveground tanks located in the bulkplant.

4.2.3

Class I liquids shall not be stored or handled in a building that has a basement or pit into which ignitiblevapors can travel, unless the basement or pit is provided with ventilation that will prevent the accumulation

of vapors. The ventilation system shall be capable of providing at least 0.3 m3/min of exhaust per m2 of

floor area (1 cfm per ft2), but not less than 4 m3/min (150 ft3/min).

4.2.4

Where tanks are at an elevation that produces a gravity head on the dispensing device, the tank outlet shallbe equipped with a device, such as a normally closed solenoid valve, positioned adjacent to anddownstream from the valve specified in 22.13.1 of NFPA 30, Flammable and Combustible Liquids Code,that is installed and adjusted so that liquid cannot flow by gravity from the tank if the piping or hose failswhen the dispenser is not in use.

4.2.5

Storage of ethanol and gasoline ethanol blends shll be in coordance with the requirements of API RP 1626.


adds new section providing for safe handling and storage of ethanol based fuels




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Statement: The committee agrees that additional guidance found in API RP 1626 is of value to the user. Becausethe document is a recommended practice it must be referenced in the annex.


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Public Input No. 61-NFPA 30A-2015 [ New Section after 4.3.2.7 ]

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4.3.2.8 Non-metallic tanks manufactured in compliance with and listed to UL SU 2258 shall be applicable inindoor and outdoor aboveground installation for Class II, Class IIIA and Class IIIB liquids. Installation,spacing and venting per the requirements of Section 4.3, Storage of Liquids


This addition to NFPA 30A would allow tanks manufactured to UL SU 2259 to be applied in combustible liquids storage installations where specified in the scope of SU 2258 supported by extensive and rigorous testing requirements of the standard.

From Subject 2258 Introduction: 1.1 These requirements cover nonmetallic or composite primary, secondary and diked type atmospheric tanks from 60 -660 gallons (227-2500L) intended primarily for the storage and supply of heating fuel for oil burning equipment, or alternately the storage of diesel fuels for compression ignition engines and motor oils (new and used) for automotive service stations, in above ground installations.

With the exception of standards UL 2080 (fire resistant tanks) and UL 2085 (protected tanks), UL SU 2258 would be the only other construction standard for combustible liquid storage with a pool fire test requirement.


Submitter Full Name: BRUCE STOWE

Organization: ROTH INDUSTRIES INCORPORATED

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Resolution: These tanks are not recognized or referenced in NFPA 30. NFPA 30A relies on tank specificationsfrom NFPA 30.


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4.3.6.7

All devices and components of the tank and piping system must follow manufactures recommendations forinstallation, calibration, maintenance, etc.


Not enforceable as written. Must have guideline requirements to ensure proper installation and maintenance.


Submitter Full Name: MARCIA POXSON

Organization: MICHIGAN BUREAU OF FIRE SERVIC

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Submittal Date: Tue Jun 30 14:24:46 EDT 2015

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Statement: The proposal has merit, but the committee is concerned that it only applies to some of thecomponents within the scope of the code. A task group will make a recommendation on appropriatechanges at the second draft stage.


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Public Input No. 36-NFPA 30A-2015 [ New Section after 5.7 ]

5.8 Underground Piping.

Underground piping must be approved doublewall with approved monitoring.


Aligns NFPA requirements with federal underground storage tank rules. Requiring monitoring of underground piping would prevent or limit environment exposure and hence, fire potential.




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Resolution: The current federal regulations governing the use of this type of piping are considered sufficient.


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Public Input No. 79-NFPA 30A-2015 [ New Section after 6.2.3 ]

6.2.4

Fuel dispensing systems and components intended for use with ethanol or gasoline/ethanol mixtures aboveE10 shall be listed in accordance with the following standards.

(1) Dispensers: ANSI/UL 87A Standard for Power-Operated Dispensing Devices for Gasoline orGasoline/Ethanol Blends with Nominal Ethanol Concentrations Up to 85 Percent (E0-E85).

(2) Pumps: ANSI/UL 79 Standard for Power-Operated Pumps for Gasoline and Gasoline/Ethanol Blendswith Nominal Ethanol Concentrations Up to 85 Percent (E0 - E85).

(3) Hose Assemblies: UL 330A Outline for Hose and Hose Assemblies for Use With Dispensing DevicesDispensing Gasoline and Gasoline/Ethanol Blends With Nominal Ethanol Concentrations Up To 85 Percent(E0 - E85),

(4) Hose Nozzles Valves: UL 2586A Standard for Hose Nozzle Valves for Gasoline and Gasoline/EthanolBlends with Nominal Ethanol Concentrations Up to 85 Percent (E0 - E85).

(5) Swivel Connectors: UL 567A Standard for Emergency Breakaway Fittings, Swivel Connectors andPipe-Connection Fittings for Gasoline/Ethanol Blends with Nominal Ethanol Concentrations Up to 85Percent (E0 - E85.

(6) Breakaways: UL 567A Standard for Emergency Breakaway Fittings, Swivel Connectors andPipe-Connection Fittings for Gasoline/Ethanol Blends with Nominal Ethanol Concentrations Up to 85Percent (E0 - E85).

(7) Dispenser Emergency Shutoff Valves – UL 842A Standard for Valves for Gasoline and Gasoline/EthanolBlends with Nominal Ethanol Concentrations up to 85 Percent (E0 - E85)


Section 6.2.3 currently requires dispensing equipment intended for use with alcohol-blended motor fuels to be listed or approved for the specific purpose. This was a good requirement when systems and components were not listed for this use. However a new generation of UL standards was developed to evaluate and list the components covered by this section for such use. This proposal provides the code user with references to the standards used to evaluate fuels with ethanol concentrations above E10.




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Statement: These standards proposed in PI 79 are already addressed in the annex and the committee hasupdated the annex to reflect the updated standards.


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6.2.3 *

Fuel dispensing systems , including dispensers, hoses, nozzles, breakaway fittings, swivels, flexibleconnectors, dispenser emergency shutoff valves, vapor recovery systems, and pumps that are used foralcohol-blended motor fuels shall be listed or approved for the specific purpose. and components shall belisted in accordance with the following standards, or the standards included in Section 6.2.4:

(1) Dispensers: ANSI/UL 87A Standard for Power-Operated Dispensing Devices for Petroleum Products.

(2) Pumps: ANSI/UL 79, Standard for Powered-Operated Pumps for Petroleum Dispensing Products.

(3) Hose Assemblies: ANSI/UL 330, Standard for Hose and Hose Assemblies for Dispensing FlammableLiquids.

(4) Hose Nozzles Valves: ANSI/UL 2586, Standard for Hose Nozzle Valves.

(5) Swivel Connectors: ANSI/UL 567, Standard for Emergency Breakaway Fittings, Swivel Connectorsand Pipe-Connection Fittings for Petroleum Products.

(6) Breakaways: ANSI/UL 567, Standard for Emergency Breakaway Fittings, Swivel Connectors andPipe-Connection Fittings for Petroleum Products.

(7) Dispenser Emergency Shutoff Valves – ANSI/UL 842, Standard for Valves for Flammable Fluids.


The body of the code stated that specific products were to be listed but there was no listed standard in the body of the code to support the requirement it was located in the Annex, which is unenforceable. This creates an enforcement nightmare because there was a disconnection between what the code demands and the means to attain it. This change resolves that issue.




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6.3.2

Dispensing devices for Class I and Class II liquids shall be listed in accordance with ANSI/UL 87AStandard for Power-Operated Dispensing Devices for Gasoline or ANSI/UL 87A Standard for Power-Operated Dispensing Devices for Gasoline or Gasoline/Ethanol Blends with Nominal EthanolConcentrations Up to 85 Percent (E0-E85) .

6.3.2.1

Existing listed or labeled dispensing devices shall be permitted to be modified provided that themodifications made are “Listed by Report” by an approved testing laboratory or as otherwise approved bythe authority having jurisdiction. Modification proposals shall contain a description of the component partsused in the modification and the recommended methods of installation on specific dispensing devices.Modification proposals shall be made available to the authority having jurisdiction upon request.


This proposal clarifies the standards used to list dispensing devices. In a separate proposal UL 87A was added to Section 2.3.3.




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6.4.2

Each pump shall have installed on the discharge side a listed leak detection device that will provide anaudible or visible indication restricts or shuts off the flow of product. if the piping or a dispenser is leaking.Each leak-detecting device shall be checked and tested at least annually according to the manufacturer'sspecifications to ensure proper installation and operation.

Exception: A leak detection device shall not be required if all piping is visible.

Additional Proposed Changes

File Name Description Approved

30A-PC7.pdf 30A PC7


NOTE: The following Public Input appeared as "Reject but Hold" in Public Comment No. 7 of the A2014 Second Draft Report for NFPA 30A and per the Regs. at 4.4.8.3.1

The wording in this section of the code makes it impossible to comply with. No leak detector installed on the discharge side of the pump provides an audible or visible alarm.

Line leak detectors used on remote submersible pumps are not capable of sounding an audible or visible alarm, they use a pressure differential in the piping to either restrict the flow of product to the dispenser (mechanical line leak detectors) or shut off the flow of product (electronic line leak detectors).


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TC ON AUV-AAA

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Submittal Date: Thu Mar 26 10:49:50 EDT 2015

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Statement: Line leak detectors used on remote submersible pumps are not capable of sounding an audible orvisual alarm. They use a pressure differential in the piping to either restrict the flow of product to thedispenser or shut of the flow of product completely.


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Public Comment No. 7-NFPA 30A-2013 [ Section No. 6.4.2 ]

6.4.2

Each pump shall have installed on the discharge side a listed leak detection device that will provide an audible orvisible indication restricts or shuts off the flow of product if the piping or a dispenser is leaking. Eachleak-detecting device shall be checked and tested at least annually according to the manufacturer'sspecifications to ensure proper installation and operation.

Exception : A leak detection device shall not be required if all piping is visible.



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Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

The wording in this section of the code makes it impossible to comply with. No leak detector installed on the discharge side of the pump provides an audible or visible alarm.

Line leak detectors used on remote submersible pumps are not capable of sounding an audible or visible alarm, they use a pressure differential in the piping to either restrict the flow of product to the dispenser (mechanical line leak detectors) or shut off the flow of product (electronic line leak detectors).


Submitter Full Name: ALEX RALSTON

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Rejected but held

Resolution: Public Comment No. 7 proposes a change to a paragraph in NFPA 30A that was not amended at the FirstDraft stage of this revision cycle. To accept this change would effect an amendment to the Code withoutits having undergone public review and comment. Therefore, in accordance with Paragraphs 4.4.4.2 and4.4.8.3 of the Regulations Governing the Development of NFPA Standards, the Technical Committee hasvoted to reject Public Comment No. 7 and hold it for processing as a Public Input at the next documentrevision cycle.

Copyright Assignment

I, ALEX RALSTON, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this PublicComment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights,including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. Ihereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment.

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6.5.1

Listed hose assemblies shall be used to dispense fuel. Hose Hose assemblies shall be be listed inaccordance with ANSI/UL 330, Standard for Hose and Hose Assemblies for Dispensing FlammableLiquids or UL 330A Outline for Hose and Hose Assemblies for Use With Dispensing Devices DispensingGasoline and Gasoline/Ethanol Blends With Nominal Ethanol Concentrations Up To 85 Percent (E0 -E85). H ose length at automotive motor fuel dispensing facilities shall not exceed 5.5 m (18 ft). Wherehose length at marine motor fuel dispensing facilities exceeds 5.5 m (18 ft), the hose shall be secured so asto protect it from damage.


This identifies the standards used to investigate and list hose assemblies.




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Public Input No. 15-NFPA 30A-2015 [ Sections 6.7.1, 6.7.2 ]

Sections 6.7.1, 6.7.2

6.7.1

At attended motor fuel dispensing facilities, the devices or disconnects shall be readily accessible to theattendant and labeled with an approved sign stating "EMERGENCY FUEL SHUTOFF" .

6.7.2

At unattended motor fuel dispensing facilities, the devices or disconnects shall be readily accessible topatrons and at least one additional device or disconnect shall be readily accessible to each group ofdispensing devices on an individual island. The device(s) or disconnect(s) shall be labeled with anapproved sign stating "EMERGENCY FUEL SHUTOFF".



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NOTE: The following Public Input appeared as "Reject but Hold" in Public Comment No. 4 of the A2014 Second Draft Report for NFPA 30A and per the Regs. at 4.4.8.3.1.

Shut-offs should be labeled as to their operation so they can be easily identified by attendants and/or patrons that may be required to use them.


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Statement: The committee agrees that all emergency shutoff devices should be clearly identified.


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Public Comment No. 4-NFPA 30A-2013 [ Sections 6.7.1, 6.7.2 ]

Sections 6.7.1, 6.7.2

6.7.1

At attended motor fuel dispensing facilities, the devices or disconnects shall be readily accessible to theattendant and labeled with an approved sign stating “EMERGENCY FUEL SHUTOFF” . .

6.7.2

At unattended motor fuel dispensing facilities, the devices or disconnects shall be readily accessible to patronsand at least one additional device or disconnect shall be readily accessible to each group of dispensing deviceson an individual island. The device(s) or disconnect(s) shall be labeled with an approved sign stating“EMERGENCY FUEL SHUTOFF”.


Shut-offs should be labeled as to their operation so they can be easily identified by attendants and/or patrons that may be required to use them.


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7.2.1 Safe Construction Practices

Contractors working at service station facilities shall comply with the requirements of API RP 1646, SafeWork Practices for Contractors Working at Retail Petroleum/Convenience Facilities.

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Provides safety requirements for contractors working in service stations




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Resolution: Since a copy of the document was not submitted with the proposal, the committee was unable toreview it and to assess its applicability. Based on its title, it does not appear that the document iswithin the scope of NFPA 30A.


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7.3.1 Occupancy Classification.

The occupancy classification of a motor fuel dispensing facility that is located inside a building or structureshall be a special purpose industrial occupancy as defined in NFPA 101 , Life Safety Code determined inaccordance with the building code adopted for the jurisdiction .


Occupancy classifications are assigned by the Building code adopted in a jurisdiction. Special purpose industrial occupancy is an incorrect classification (see below) and this is a complicated situation best handled by requirements already clearly established in the building code. For most occupancies, adding a motor fuel dispensing facility inside an existing building would cause the MAQ to be exceeded if the storage is also inside, which would cause the occupancy to be a high hazard Group H occupancy and/or invoke additional Protection Level requirement (analogous to Group H) if NFPA 1 were to be enforced. Regardless, a special purpose industrial occupancy has lower egress requirements (not higher) that a standard industrial occupancy so this is not an appropriate occupancy classification.

Special-purpose industrial occupancies are intended for occupancies with uniquely low occupant load factors; not for occupancies that perform unique operations. Fuel dispensing facilities do not experience uniquely low occupant loads. In addition, egress may be inadequate if classified as a special purpose industrial occupancy. Refer to definition in NFPA 101 below as evidence that this classification is not applicable to fuel dispensing facilities:

3.3.190.8.3 Special-Purpose Industrial Occupancy. An industrial occupancy in which ordinary and low hazard industrial operations are conducted in buildings designed for, and suitable only for, particular types of operations, characterized by a relatively low density of employee population, with much of the area occupied by machinery or equipment.







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Statement: The committee determined that it is necessary to retain the classification of special purpose industrialoccupancy, particularly as it pertains for indoor fueling. In the areas where NFPA 101 is not adopted,the local building code would be in effect.


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The occupancy classification of a motor fuel dispensing facility that is located inside a building or structureshall be a special purpose an industrial occupancy as defined in NFPA 101, Life Safety Code.


The change proposed in PI No 45 is preferred over this one but if PI No 45 is rejected (resolved) then this one is my 2nd choice.

Special-purpose industrial occupancies are intended for occupancies with uniquely low occupant load factors; not for occupancies that perform unique operations. Fuel dispensing facilities do not experience uniquely low occupant loads. In addition, egress may be inadequate if classified as a special purpose industrial occupancy. Refer to definition in NFPA 101 below as evidence that this classification is not applicable to fuel dispensing facilities:




Public Input No. 45-NFPA 30A-2015 [SectionNo. 7.3.1]

If PI 45 is accepted then this one should be rejected. Andvice-versa.




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The occupancy classification of a motor fuel dispensing facility that is located inside a building or structureshall be a special purpose industrial occupancy as defined in NFPA 101 , Life Safety Code be inaccordance with the building code adopted for the jurisdiction .


Occupancy classifications are assigned by the Building code adopted in a jurisdiction. Special purpose industrial occupancy is an incorrect classification (see below) and this is a complicated situation best handled by requirements already clearly established in the building code. For most occupancies, adding a motor fuel dispensing facility inside an existing building would cause the MAQ to be exceeded if the storage is also inside, which would cause the occupancy to be a high hazard Group H occupancy and/or invoke additional Protection Level requirement (analogous to Group H) if NFPA 1 were to be enforced. Regardless, a special purpose industrial occupancy has lower egress requirements (not higher) that a standard industrial occupancy so this is not an appropriate occupancy classification. Special-purpose industrial occupancies are intended for occupancies with uniquely low occupant load factors; not for occupancies that perform unique operations. Fuel dispensing facilities do not experience uniquely low occupant loads. In addition, egress may be inadequate if classified as a special purpose industrial occupancy. Refer to definition in NFPA 101 below as evidence that this classification is not applicable to fuel dispensing facilities: 3.3.190.8.3 Special-Purpose Industrial Occupancy. An industrial occupancy in which ordinary and low hazard industrial operations are conducted in buildings designed for, and suitable only for, particular types of operations, characterized by a relatively low density of employee population, with much of the area occupied by machinery or equipment.






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The occupancy classification of a motor fuel dispensing facility that is located inside a building or structureshall be a special purpose an industrial occupancy as defined in NFPA 101, Life Safety Code.


PI 65 should only be considered if PI 64 is rejected. Special-purpose industrial occupancies are intended for occupancies with uniquely low occupant load factors; not for occupancies that perform unique operations. Fuel dispensing facilities do not experience uniquely low occupant loads. In addition, egress may be inadequate if classified as a special purpose industrial occupancy. Refer to definition in NFPA 101 below as evidence that this classification is not applicable to fuel dispensing facilities: 3.3.190.8.3 Special-Purpose Industrial Occupancy. An industrial occupancy in which ordinary and low hazard industrial operations are conducted in buildings designed for, and suitable only for, particular types of operations, characterized by a relatively low density of employee population, with much of the area occupied by machinery or equipment.



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7.3.3 Means of Egress.

In a motor fuel dispensing facility that is located inside a building or structure, the required number,location, and construction of means of egress shall meet all applicable requirements for special purposeindustrial occupancies, as set forth in NFPA 101 , Life Safety Code .


Occupancy classifications are assigned by the Building code adopted in a jurisdiction. The building code adopted by the jurisdiction will address egress. This section is not needed. If a jurisdiction uses NFPA 101 for egress, then the conflict between the IBC and NFPA 101 will be addressed in their adopting ordinances (typically by adopting NFPA 101 instead of IBC Ch 10. Either way, this section is not needed and creates conflict as is.







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In a motor fuel dispensing facility that is located inside a building or structure, the required number, location,and construction of means of egress shall meet all applicable requirements for special purpose industrialoccupancies, as set forth in NFPA 101, Life Safety Code.


Only needed if PI47 is rejected. If PI47 is approve then reject this one.Special-purpose industrial occupancies are intended for occupancies with uniquely low occupant load factors; not for occupancies that perform unique operations. Fuel dispensing facilities do not experience uniquely low occupant loads. In addition, egress may be inadequate if classified as a special purpose industrial occupancy. Refer to definition in NFPA 101 below as evidence that this classification is not applicable to fuel dispensing facilities:





If PI 47 is approved then this one is not needed and shouldbe rejected.




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In a motor fuel dispensing facility that is located inside a building or structure, the required number,location, and construction of means of egress shall meet all applicable requirements for special purposeindustrial occupancies, as set forth in NFPA 101 , Life Safety Code .


This section is not needed because occupancy classifications and "means of egress" are assigned by the Building code adopted in a jurisdiction.If a jurisdiction uses NFPA 101 for egress, then the conflict between the IBC and NFPA 101 will be addressed in their adopting ordinances (typically by adopting NFPA 101 instead of IBC Ch 10. Either way, this section is not needed and creates conflict as is.








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In a motor fuel dispensing facility that is located inside a building or structure, the required number, location,and construction of means of egress shall meet all applicable requirements for special purpose industrialoccupancies, as set forth in NFPA 101, Life Safety Code.


This PI should only be considered if PI66 is rejected. Special-purpose industrial occupancies are intended for occupancies with uniquely low occupant load factors; not for occupancies that perform unique operations. Fuel dispensing facilities do not experience uniquely low occupant loads. In addition, egress may be inadequate if classified as a special purpose industrial occupancy. Refer to definition in NFPA 101 below as evidence that this classification is not applicable to fuel dispensing facilities: 3.3.190.8.3 Special-Purpose Industrial Occupancy. An industrial occupancy in which ordinary and low hazard industrial operations are conducted in buildings designed for, and suitable only for, particular types of operations, characterized by a relatively low density of employee population, with much of the area occupied by machinery or equipment.




PI 67 is an optional proposal only to be considered if PI 66is rejected





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The occupancy classification of a repair garage shall be a special purpose industrial occupancy as definedin NFPA 101 , Life Safety Code . in accordance with the building code adopted for the jurisdiction


PI Occupancy classifications are assigned by the Building code adopted in a jurisdiction. Special purpose industrial occupancy is an incorrect classification (see below) and this is a complicated situation best handled by requirements already clearly established in the building code. A special purpose industrial occupancy has lower egress requirements (not higher) that a standard industrial occupancy so this is not an appropriate occupancy classification. Special-purpose industrial occupancies are intended for occupancies with uniquely low occupant load factors; not for occupancies that perform unique operations. Repair garages do not experience uniquely low occupant loads. In addition, egress may be inadequate if classified as a special purpose industrial occupancy. Refer to definition in NFPA 101 below as evidence that this classification is not applicable to fuel dispensing facilities: 3.3.190.8.3 Special-Purpose Industrial Occupancy. An industrial occupancy in which ordinary and low hazard industrial operations are conducted in buildings designed for, and suitable only for, particular types of operations, characterized by a relatively low density of employee population, with much of the area occupied by machinery or equipment.








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The occupancy classification of a repair garage shall be a special purpose an industrial occupancy asdefined in NFPA 101, Life Safety Code.


If the technical committee rejects my preferred option to remove the reference to NFPA101 as proposed in PI 70, then, I propose removing the "special purpose" from industrial occupancies. Special-purpose industrial occupancies are intended for occupancies with uniquely low occupant load factors; not for occupancies that perform unique operations. Repair garages do not experience uniquely low occupant loads. In addition, egress may be inadequate if classified as a special purpose industrialoccupancy. Refer to definition in NFPA 101 below as evidence that this classification is not applicable to repair garages: 3.3.190.8.3 Special-Purpose Industrial Occupancy. An industrial occupancy in which ordinary and low hazard industrial operations are conducted in buildings designed for, and suitable only for, particular types of operations, characterized by a relatively low density of employee population, with much of the area occupied by machinery or equipment.



Public Input No. 70-NFPA 30A-2015 [Section No. 7.4.1] Secondary proposal if PI70 is rejected





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The occupancy classification of a repair garage shall be a special purpose industrial occupancy as definedin NFPA 101 , Life Safety Code in accordance with the building code adopted for the jurisdiction .


Occupancy classifications are assigned by the Building code adopted in a jurisdiction. Special purposeindustrial occupancy is an incorrect classification (see below) and this is a complicated situation besthandled by requirements already clearly established in the building code. A special purpose industrialoccupancy has lower egress requirements (not higher) that a standard industrial occupancy so this is not anappropriate occupancy classification. Special-purpose industrial occupancies are intended for occupancieswith uniquely low occupant load factors; not for occupancies that perform unique operations. Repairgarages do not experience uniquely low occupant loads. In addition, egress may be inadequate if classifiedas a special purpose industrial occupancy. Refer to definition in NFPA 101 below as evidence that thisclassification is not applicable to fuel dispensing facilities: 3.3.190.8.3 Special-Purpose IndustrialOccupancy. An industrial occupancy in which ordinary and low hazard industrial operations are conducted inbuildings designed for, and suitable only for, particular types of operations, characterized by a relatively lowdensity of employee population, with much of the area occupied by machinery or equipment.







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The occupancy classification of a repair garage shall be a special purpose an industrial occupancy asdefined in NFPA 101, Life Safety Code.


If the technical committee rejects my preferred option to remove the reference to NFPA101 as proposed inPI 81, then, I propose removing the "special purpose" from industrial occupancies. Special-purposeindustrial occupancies are intended for occupancies with uniquely low occupant load factors; not foroccupancies that perform unique operations. Repair garages do not experience uniquely low occupantloads. In addition, egress may be inadequate if classified as a special purpose industrialoccupancy. Refer to definition in NFPA 101 below as evidence that this classification is not applicable torepair garages: 3.3.190.8.3 Special-Purpose Industrial Occupancy. An industrial occupancy in whichordinary and low hazard industrial operations are conducted in buildings designed for, and suitable only for,particular types of operations, characterized by a relatively low density of employee population, with muchof the area occupied by machinery or equipment.



Public Input No. 81-NFPA 30A-2015 [Section No.7.4.1]

preferred option is in PI 81. This is a secondaryinput




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7.4.2 General Construction Requirements.

In major repair garages, where CNG-fueled vehicles, hydrogen-fueled vehicles, LNG-fueled vehicles, orLP-Gas-fueled vehicles are repaired, all applicable requirements of NFPA 52, Vehicular Gaseous FuelSystems Code, NFPA2, Hydrogen Technologies Code, or NFPA 58, Liquefied Petroleum Gas Code,whichever is applicable, shall be met.


NFPA Standard Council has moved all hydrogen requirements from NFPA52 to NFPA2, including those for Motor Fueling Dispensing and Repair Garages. The 2011 version of the NFPA2 code had specific information on Dispensing, but not for Repair Garages (reserved). The 2016 version of NFPA2 will have specific requirements for Repair Garages and will be published prior to NFPA30A. Therefore, in order to prevent conflicting requirements, repair garages should reference NFPA2 and not NFPA52.



Public Input No. 63-NFPA 30A-2015 [Section No. 2.4]





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Statement: Since hydrogen is now a viable alternative fuel, it should be specifically recognized in NFPA 30A.


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7.4.2 General Construction Requirements.

In major repair garages, where CNG-fueled vehicles, hydrogen-fueled vehicles, LNG-fueled vehicles, orLP-Gas-fueled vehicles are repaired, all applicable requirements of NFPA 52, Vehicular Gaseous FuelSystems Code, NFPA 2, Hydrogen Technologies Code , or NFPA 58, Liquefied Petroleum Gas Code,whichever is applicable, shall be met.


Requirements for repair garages servicing hydrogen-fueled vehicles are contained only in NFPA 2 and nowhere else. Previous text in NFPA 52 has been removed. The Standards Council has revised the Scope of NFPA 52 and removed fueling of hydrogen-fuel cell electric vehicles.



Public Input No. 42-NFPA 30A-2015 [Section No. 2.4]




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Statement: Since hydrogen is now a viable alternative fuel, it should be specifically recognized in NFPA 30A.


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In a repair garage, the required number, location, and construction of means of egress shall meet allapplicable requirements for special purpose industrial occupancies, as set forth in NFPA 101 , Life SafetyCode .


Preferred option.

Occupancy classifications are assigned by the Building code adopted in a jurisdiction. The building code adopted by the jurisdiction will address egress. This section is not needed. If a jurisdiction uses NFPA 101 for egress, then the conflict between the IBC and NFPA 101 will be addressed in their adopting ordinances (typically by adopting NFPA 101 instead of IBC Ch 10. Either way, this section is not needed and creates conflict as is.







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In a repair garage, the required number, location, and construction of means of egress shall meet allapplicable requirements for special purpose industrial occupancies, as set forth in NFPA 101, Life SafetyCode.


Only needed if PI49 is rejected.

Special-purpose industrial occupancies are intended for occupancies with uniquely low occupant load factors; not for occupancies that perform unique operations. Repair garages are rather common and do not experience uniquely low occupant loads. In addition, egress may be inadequate if classified as a special purpose industrial occupancy. Refer to definition in NFPA 101 below as evidence that this classification is not applicable to fuel dispensing facilities:





If PI49 is accepted then this one PI50 should be rejected -or vice versa.




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In a repair garage, the required number, location, and construction of means of egress shall meet allapplicable requirements for special purpose industrial occupancies, as set forth in NFPA 101 , Life SafetyCode .


This section is not needed because occupancy classifications and "means of egress" are assigned by the building code adopted in a jurisdiction.If a jurisdiction uses NFPA 101 for egress, then the conflict between the IBC and NFPA 101 will be addressed in their adopting ordinances (typically by adopting NFPA 101 instead of IBC Ch 10. Either way, this section is not needed and creates conflict as is.








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In a repair garage, the required number, location, and construction of means of egress shall meet allapplicable requirements for special purpose industrial occupancies, as set forth in NFPA 101, Life SafetyCode.


This PI should only be considered if PI68 is rejected. Special-purpose industrial occupancies are intended for occupancies with uniquely low occupant load factors; not for occupancies that perform unique operations. Repair garages do not experience uniquely low occupant loads. In addition, egress may be inadequate if classified as a special purpose industrial occupancy. Refer to definition in NFPA 101 below as evidence that this classification is not applicable to repair garages: 3.3.190.8.3 Special- Purpose Industrial Occupancy. An industrial occupancy in which ordinary and low hazard industrial operations are conducted in buildings designed for, and suitable only for, particular types of operations, characterized by a relatively low density of employee population, with much of the area occupied by machinery or equipment



Public Input No. 68-NFPA 30A-2015 [Section No. 7.4.3] PI69 should only be considered if PI68 is rejected





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7.4.4 Drainage.

In areas of repair garages used for repair or servicing of vehicles, floor assemblies shall be constructed ofnoncombustible materials or, if combustible materials are used in the assembly, they shall be surfaced withapproved, nonabsorbent, noncombustible material. Exception: Slip-resistant, nonabsorbent, interior floor

finishes having a critical radiant flux not more than 0.45 W/cm 2 (9.87 Btu/in. 2 ), as determined by NFPA253, Standard Method of Test for Critical Radiant Flux of Floor Covering Systems Using a Radiant HeatEnergy Source , shall be permitted

, except as permitted by 7.4.4.3 .

7.4.4.1

Floors shall be liquidtight to prevent the leakage or seepage of liquids and shall be sloped to facilitate themovement of water, fuel, or other liquids to floor drains.

7.4.4.2

In areas of repair garages where vehicles are serviced, any floor drains shall be properly trapped and shalldischarge through an oil/water separator to the sewer or to an outside vented sump.

7.4.4.3 Slip-resistant, nonabsorbent, interior floor finishes having a critical radiant flux not more than 0.45

W/cm2 (9.87 Btu/in. 2 ), as determined by NFPA 253, Standard Method of Test for Critical Radiant

Flux of Floor Covering Systems Using a Radiant Heat Energy Source or by ASTM E648,Standard TestMethod for Critical Radiant Flux of Floor-Covering Systems Using a Radiant Heat Energy Source , shall bepermitted.

(Also ad ASTM E648 2014c into the list of referenced ASTM standards in Chpater 2).


This public input does two things: (a) adds reference to ASTM E648, which is completely equivalent to NFPA 253 and is used more often and is referenced in most NFPA codes as an acceptable alternative to NFPA 253 and (b) makes the exception into full text language, thus eliminating exceptions wherever possible, as recommended by Standards Council and the Manual of Style.


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Resolution: The committee agrees that they are in accordance with the manual of style: "2.3.5 Exceptions. 2.3.5.1Exceptions shall be permitted only where the exception represents an allowance or required alternateprocedure to a general rule when limited, specified conditions apply." The committee also requeststhat the submitter provide a thorough comparison of the two standards (ASTM E648 and NFPA 253)for committee review.


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Public Input No. 51-NFPA 30A-2015 [ Section No. 7.4.5.3 ]

7.4.5.3

In pits, belowgrade work areas, and subfloor work areas, the required number, location, and construction ofmeans of egress shall meet the requirements for special purpose industrial occupancies in Chapter 40 ofNFPA 101 , Life Safety Code .


Preferred option. Occupancy classifications are assigned by the Building code adopted in a jurisdiction. The building code adopted by the jurisdiction will address egress. This section is not needed. If a jurisdiction uses NFPA 101 for egress, then the conflict between the IBC and NFPA 101 will be addressed in their adopting ordinances (typically by adopting NFPA 101 instead of IBC Ch 10. Either way, this section is not needed and creates conflict as is.



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7.4.5.3

In pits, belowgrade work areas, and subfloor work areas, the required number, location, and construction ofmeans of egress shall meet the requirements for special purpose industrial occupancies in Chapter 40 ofNFPA 101, Life Safety Code.


Special-purpose industrial occupancies are intended for occupancies with uniquely low occupant load factors; not for occupancies that perform unique operations. Repair garages are rather common and do not experience uniquely low occupant loads. In addition, egress may be inadequate if classified as a special purpose industrial occupancy. Refer to definition in NFPA 101 below as evidence that this classification is not applicable to fuel dispensing facilities:




Public Input No. 51-NFPA 30A-2015 [SectionNo. 7.4.5.3]

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7.4.5.3

In pits, belowgrade work areas, and subfloor work areas, the required number, location, and construction ofmeans of egress shall meet the requirements for special purpose industrial occupancies in Chapter 40 ofNFPA 101 , Life Safety Code .


This section is not needed because occupancy classifications and "means of egress" are assigned by the Building code adopted in a jurisdiction.If a jurisdiction uses NFPA 101 for egress, then the conflict between the IBC and NFPA 101 will be addressed in their adopting ordinances (typically by adopting NFPA 101 instead of IBC Ch 10. Either way, this section is not needed and creates conflict as is.



Public Input No. 72-NFPA 30A-2015 [Section No. 7.4.5.3]





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7.4.5.3

In pits, belowgrade work areas, and subfloor work areas, the required number, location, and construction ofmeans of egress shall meet the requirements for special purpose for industrial occupancies in Chapter 40of NFPA 101, Life Safety Code.


This PI should only be considered if PI71 is rejected. Special-purpose industrial occupancies are intended for occupancies with uniquely low occupant load factors; not for occupancies that perform unique operations. Repair garages do not experience uniquely low occupant loads. In addition, egress may be inadequate if classified as a special purpose industrial occupancy. Refer to definition in NFPA 101 below as evidence that this classification is not applicable to repair garages: 3.3.190.8.3 Special- Purpose Industrial Occupancy. An industrial occupancy in which ordinary and low hazard industrial operations are conducted in buildings designed for, and suitable only for, particular types of operations, characterized by a relatively low density of employee population, with much of the area occupied by machinery or equipment.



Public Input No. 71-NFPA 30A-2015 [Section No.7.4.5.3]

PI 72 should only be considered if PI71 isrejected





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7.4.6 Fixed Fire Protection.

Automatic sprinkler protection installed in accordance with the requirements of NFPA 13, Standard for theInstallation of Sprinkler Systems, shall be provided in major repair garages, as herein defined, when any ofthe following conditions exist:

(1) The builidng housing the major repair garage is two or more stories in height levels , includingbasements, and any one of the floors exceeds 930

(2) The aggregate area of all levels combined exceeds 1115 m 2 (

10

(3) 12 ,000 ft 2 ).

(4) The major repair garage is one

story

(5) level and

exceeds

(6) exceed 1115 m 2 (12,000 ft 2 ).

(7) The major repair garage is servicing vehicles parked in the basement of the building.



30A-PC1.pdf 30A PC #1.



Subsection 1 should clarify that the requirement applies to the entire building; the entire building does not have to be used as a repair garage to utilize this requirement. The current language of section 1 would allow a large area without sprinkler protection. (Example: 3 story building, 9,000 ft² per floor would not require sprinkler protection)


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Public Comment No. 1-NFPA 30A-2013 [ Section No. 7.4.6 ]

7.4.6 Fixed Fire Protection.

Automatic sprinkler protection installed in accordance with the requirements of NFPA 13, Standard for theInstallation of Sprinkler Systems, shall be provided in major repair garages, as herein defined, when any of thefollowing conditions exist:

(1) The building housing the major repair garage is two or more

stories in height

(1) levels , including basements, and

any one of the floors exceeds 930 m 2 (10,000 ft 2 )

(1) the aggregate area of all levels combined exceeds 12000 ft2 .

(2) The major repair garage is one

story

(1) level and exceeds 1115 m 2 (12,000 ft 2 ).

(2) The major repair garage is servicing vehicles parked in the basement of the building.


Subsection 1 should clarify that the requirement applies to the entire building; the entire building does not have to be used as a repair garage to utilize this requirement. The current language of section 1 would allow a large area without sprinkler protection. (Example: 3 story building, 9,000 ft² per floor would not require sprinkler protection)




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7.4.7 Gas Detection System.

Repair garages used for repair of vehicle engine fuel systems fueled by non-odorized gases, with theexception of hydrogen, such as hydrogen and non-odorized LNG/CNG, shall be provided with anapproved flammable gas detection system.

7.4.7.1 For repair garages used for the repair of hydrogen-fueled vehicles, the gas detection systemshall be in accordance with NFPA 2, Hydrogen Technologies Code

7.4.7.2 System Design.

The flammable gas detection system shall be calibrated to the types of fuels or gases used by vehicles tobe repaired. The gas detection system shall be designed to activate when the level of flammable gasexceeds 25 percent of the lower flammable limit (LFL). Gas detection shall also be provided in lubrication orchassis repair pits of repair garages used for repairing non-odorized LNG/CNG-fueled vehicles.

7.4.7.2 3 Operation.

Activation of the gas detection system shall result in all of the following:

(1) Initiation of distinct audible and visual alarm signals in the repair garage

(2) Deactivation of all heating systems located in the repair garage

(3) Activation of the mechanical ventilation system, when the system is interlocked with gas detection

7.4.7.3 4 Failure of the Gas Detection System.

Failure of the gas detection system shall result in the deactivation of the heating system and activation ofthe mechanical ventilation system and, where the ventilation system is interlocked with gas detection, shallcause a trouble signal to sound in an approved location.

7.4.7.4 5

The circuits of the detection system required by 7.4.7 shall be monitored for integrity in accordance withNFPA 72, National Fire Alarm and Signaling Code.


NFPA Standard Council has moved all hydrogen requirements from NFPA52 to NFPA2, including those for Motor Fueling Dispensing and Repair Garages. The 2011 version of the NFPA2 code had specific information on Dispensing, but not for Repair Garages (reserved). The 2016 version of NFPA2 will have specific requirements for Repair Garages and Gas Detection Systems. NFPA2 will be published prior to NFPA30A. In order to prevent conflicting requirements, the gas detection system requirements for hydrogen should reference NFPA2





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Statement: There are several other parameters that the committee would like to investigate, including potentialextract of specific provisions from other related NFPA codes and standards. A task group will beassigned to work on the language for this section.


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Public Input No. 43-NFPA 30A-2015 [ Section No. 7.4.7 [Excluding any Sub-Sections] ]

Repair garages used for repair of vehicle engine fuel systems fueled by non-odorized gases with theexception of hydrogen , such as hydrogen and non-odorized LNG/CNG, shall be provided with an approvedflammable gas detection system.


Special requirements for gas detection systems, including when these systems are required and how to install them, have already been developed in NFPA 2 for repair garages servicing hydrogen-fueled vehicles. A new pointer to NFPA 2 is proposed in new section 7.4.7.1.



Public Input No. 44-NFPA 30A-2015 [New Section after 7.4.7.1]




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New Section 7.4.7.1 - Renumber subsequent sections

7.4.7.1 For repair garages used for the repair of hydrogen-fueled vehicles, the gas detection system shallbe in accordance with NFPA 2, Hydrogen Technologies Code .


Special requirements for gas detection systems, including when these systems are required and how to install them, have already been developed in NFPA 2. This new section points the user to those requirements.



Public Input No. 43-NFPA 30A-2015 [Section No.7.4.7 [Excluding any Sub-Sections]]

adds pointer and makes NFPA 30A complete with theexclusion of hydrogen proposed in PI43.




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8.2.1 *

In major repair garages where CNG vehicles are repaired or stored, the area within 455 mm (18 in.) of theceiling shall be designated a Class I, Division 2 hazardous (classified) location.

Exception: In major repair garages, where ventilation equal to not less than four air changes per hour isprovided, this requirement shall not apply.


The existing requirement as stated in 8.2.1 was based on the assumption as noted in Annex A8.2.1 that the creditable release on natural gas from the vehicle would be 150% of the largest on board storage cylinder. The volume released assumption was based on the noted premature failures of thermally activated PRDs (TPRD) experienced in the 1990's. Those TPRDS have gone through at least three generations on new designs and there has not been a documented failure (premature release) from TPRDs since 2002. This stems for the phase out of the older designs for the 1990's and the excellent performance record of the new TPRD designs. With thirteen years of no recorded failures (premature releases) of TPRDs mounted on hundreds of thousands of cylinders indicates that the release hazard covered by 8.2.1 no longer exists. A recent research paper (SAND2014-2342) from SANDIA National Laboratory and funded by the Clean Vehicle Education Foundation has determined that the expected creditable release for both CNG and LNG vehicles is of a much lower volume and dose not pose a hazard for a maintenance facility. The report includes gas dispersion modeling of the creditable releases showing the extent of the ignitable mixture. This modeling of the creditable mixtures indicate that the ignitable concentration is only within a narrow area no more than six feet from the point of release, also the limited volume of release does not allow for an increasing concentration in the ceiling area due to the dispersion of the gas.The full release as as noted in the 1990 assumption was also modeled for background information. The report also indicates that ventilation rates has little or no impact on the volume of ignitable mixture and the dispersion of the released gas.The report will be sent by separate cover as part of this proposal and an electronic copy is available to the TC as needed. The Annex A8.2.1 will need to be deleted and the TC should consider new annex material explaining the realities of creditable releases expected for contemporary facility designs, this information may be considered as Annex material for section 7.6.6 concerning locations of ignitable mixtures. NOTE: SANDIA has proposed a Phase 2 project to refine the assumptions for facility designs and CFD modeling starting in 2016 and would consider input from the NFPA 52 TC together define and understand the potential hazards.


Submitter Full Name: DOUGLAS HORNE

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Statement: Not all of the supporting documentation was available to the committee for review. This informationwill be reviewed and considered by the committee at the second draft stage. The committee alsoseeks information pertaining to the size of the garage and under conditions of no ventilation.


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Table 8.3.2 shall be used to delineate and classify areas for the purposes of installing electrical wiring andelectrical utilization equipment where Class I liquids are stored, handled, or dispensed. [See also Figure8.3.2(a) and Figure 8.3.2(b) .]

Table 8.3.2 Class I Locations — Motor Fuel Dispensing Facilities

Class I

LocationDivision

(Group D)

Zone

(GroupIIA)

Extent of Classified Location a

Dispensing device(except overhead type)b,c

Under dispensercontainment

1 1 Entire space within and under dispenser pit orcontainment

Dispenser 2 2 Within 450 mm (18 in.) of dispenser enclosure orthat portion of dispenser enclosure containing liquidhandling components, extending horizontally in alldirections and down to grade level

Outdoor 2 2 Up to 450 mm (18 in.) above grade level, extending6 m (20 ft) horizontally in all directions fromdispenser enclosure

Indoor

With mechanicalventilation

2 2 Up to 450 mm (18 in.) above floor level, extending 6m (20 ft) horizontally in all directions from dispenserenclosure

With gravity ventilation 2 2 Up to 450 mm (18 in.) above floor level, extending7.5 m (25 ft) horizontally in all directions fromdispenser enclosure

Dispensing device

(overhead type d )

1 1 Space within dispenser enclosure and all electricalequipment integral with dispensing hose or nozzle

2 2 Within 450 mm (18 in.) of dispenser enclosure,extending horizontally in all directions and down tograde level

2 2 Up to 450 mm (18 in.) above grade level, extending6 m (20 ft) horizontally in all directions from a pointvertically below edge of dispenser enclosure

Repair garage, major e

(where Class I liquids orgaseous fuels are

transferred or dispensed f )(see 3.3.12.1 and 8.3.1)

1 1 Entire space within any pit, belowgrade work area,or subfloor work area that is not ventilated

2 2 Entire space within any pit, belowgrade work area,or subfloor work area that is provided with

ventilation of at least 0.3 m 3 /min/m 2 (1

ft 3 /min/ft 2 ) of floor area, with suction taken from apoint within 300 mm (12 in.) of floor level (see7.4.5.4)

2 2 Up to 450 mm (18 in.) above floor level of the room,except as noted below, for entire floor area

Unclassified Unclassified Up to 450 mm (18 in.) above floor level of the roomwhere room is provided with ventilation of at least

0.3 m 3 /min/m 2 (1 ft 3 /min/ft 2 ) of floor area, withsuction taken from a point within 300 mm (12 in.) offloor level


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Class I

LocationDivision

(Group D)

Zone

(GroupIIA)


2 2 Within 0.9 m (3 ft) of any fill or dispensing point,extending in all directions

Specific areas adjacent toclassified locations

Unclassified Unclassified Areas adjacent to classified locations whereflammable vapors are not likely to be released, suchas stock rooms, switchboard rooms, and othersimilar locations, where mechanically ventilated at arate of four or more air changes per hour ordesigned with positive air pressure or whereeffectively cut off by walls or partitions

Repair garage, minor e

(where Class I liquids orgaseous fuels are not

transferred or dispensed f )(see 3.3.12.2 and 8.3.1)

2 2 Entire space within any pit, belowgrade work area,or subfloor work area that is not ventilated

2 2 Up to 450 mm (18 in.) above floor level, extending0.9 m (3 ft) horizontally in all directions fromopening to any pit, belowgrade work area, orsubfloor work area that is not ventilated

Unclassified Unclassified Entire space within any pit, belowgrade work area,or subfloor work area that is provided with

ventilation of at least 0.3 m 3 /min/m 2 (1

ft 3 /min/ft 2 ) of floor area, with suction taken from apoint within 300 mm (12 in.) of floor level (see7.4.5.4)


Unclassified Unclassified Areas adjacent to classified locations whereflammable vapors are not likely to be released, suchas stock rooms, switchboard rooms, and othersimilar locations, where mechanically ventilated at arate of four or more air changes per hour ordesigned with positive air pressure, or whereeffectively cut off by walls or partitions


(where lighter-than-air

gaseous fueled g vehiclesare repaired or stored)(see 3.3.12.1)

2 2 Within 450 mm (18 in.) of ceiling, except as notedbelow

Unclassified Unclassified Within 450 mm (18 in.) of ceiling where ventilation

of at least 0.3 m 3 /min/m 2 (1 ft 3 /min/ft 2 ) of floorarea, with suction taken from a point within 450 mm(18 in.) of the highest point in the ceiling


Unclassified Unclassified Areas adjacent to classified locations whereflammable vapors are not likely to be released, suchas stock rooms, switchboard rooms, and othersimilar locations, where mechanically ventilated at arate of four or more air changes per hour ordesigned with positive air pressure, or whereeffectively cut off by walls or partitions

Remote pump


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Class I

LocationDivision

(Group D)

Zone

(GroupIIA)


Outdoor 1 1 Entire space within any pit or box below grade level,any part of which is within 3 m (10 ft) horizontallyfrom any edge of pump

2 2 Within 900 mm (3 ft) of any edge of pump,extending horizontally in all directions

2 2 Up to 450 m (18 in.) above grade level, extending 3m (10 ft) horizontally in all directions from any edgeof pump

Indoor 1 1 Entire space within any pit

2 2 Within 1.5 m (5 ft) of any edge of pump, extendingin all directions

2 2 Up to 900 mm (3 ft) above floor level, extending 7.5m (25 ft) horizontally in all directions from any edgeof pump

Sales, storage, rest rooms(including structures [suchas the attendant’s kiosk]on or adjacent todispensers)

Unclassified Unclassified Except as noted below

1 1 Entire volume, if there is any opening to room withinthe extent of a Division 1 or Zone 1 location


Tank, aboveground

(tanks not directlyrelated to fueling asdetailed in table 8.3.2band section 4.3.2)

Inside tank 1 0 Entire inside volume

Shell, ends, roof, dike area 1 1 Entire space within dike, where dike height exceedsdistance from tank shell to inside of dike wall formore than 50 percent of tank circumference

2 2 Entire space within dike, where dike height does notexceed distance from tank shell to inside of dikewall for more than 50 percent of tank circumference

2 2 Within 3 m (10 ft) of shell, ends , or roof of tank

Vent 1 1 Within 1.5 m (5 ft) of open end of vent, extending inall directions

2 2 Between 1.5 m and 3 m (5 ft and 10 ft) from openend of vent, extending in all directions

Tank, underground


Fill opening 1 1 Entire space within any pit or box below grade level,any part of which is within a Division 1 or Division 2classified location or within a Zone 1 or Zone 2classified location

2 2 Up to 450 mm (18 in.) above grade level, extending1.5 m (5 ft) horizontally in all directions from anytight-fill connection and extending 3 m (10 ft)


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Class I

LocationDivision

(Group D)

Zone

(GroupIIA)


horizontally in all directions from any loose-fillconnection

Vent 1 1 Within 1.5 m (5 ft) of open end of vent, extending inall directions

2 2 Between 1.5 m and 3 m (5 ft and 10 ft) from openend of vent, extending in all directions

Vapor processing system

Pits 1 1 Entire space within any pit or box below grade level,any part of which: (1) is within a Division 1 orDivision 2 classified location; (2) is within a Zone 1or Zone 2 classified location; (3) houses anyequipment used to transfer or process vapors

Equipment in protectiveenclosures

2 2 Entire space within enclosure

Equipment not withinprotective enclosure

2 2 Within 450 mm (18 in.) of equipment containingflammable vapors or liquid, extending horizontally inall directions and down to grade level

2 2 Up to 450 m (18 in.) above grade level within 3 m(10 ft) horizontally of the vapor processingequipment

Equipment enclosure 1 1 Entire space within enclosure, if flammable vapor orliquid is present under normal operating conditions

2 2 Entire space within enclosure, if flammable vapor orliquid is not present under normal operatingconditions

Vacuum assist blower 2 2 Within 450 mm (18 in.) of blower, extendinghorizontally in all directions and down to grade level

2 2 Up to 450 mm (18 in.) above grade level, extending3 m (10 ft) horizontally in all directions

Vault 1 1 Entire interior space, if Class I liquids are storedwithin

aFor marine application, grade level means the surface of a pier, extending down to water level.

bRefer to Figures 8.3.2(a) and 8.3.2(b) for illustrations of classified locations around dispensing devices.

cArea classification inside the dispenser enclosure is covered in UL 87, Standard for Power-OperatedDispensing Devices for Petroleum Products.

dCeiling-mounted hose reel.

eThe terms repair garage, major and repair garage, minor are intended to correlate with Article 511.3 ofNFPA 70, National Electrical Code. For the purposes of application of this table, these terms do not includeassociated floor space used for offices, parking, or showrooms.

fIncludes draining of Class I liquids from vehicles.

gIncludes fuels such as hydrogen and natural gas, but not LPG.

Figure 8.3.2(a) Classified Areas Adjacent to Dispensers.


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Figure 8.3.2(b) Classified Areas Adjacent to Dispenser Mounted on Aboveground Storage Tank.

Exception: The extent of the classified area around a vacuum-assist blower shall be permitted to bereduced if the blower is specifically listed for such reduced distances.


Table 8.3.2 seems to conflict with the use of an AST in conjunction with a dispensing device when it comes to the definition of hazardous zones. Table 8.3.3(b) shows zones that are not near as large as those shown for ASTs in 8.3.2 with no clear definition to the differences. The only clue is that in 8.3.2 it refers to dikes around the tanks which would seem to indicate large storage tanks. This large zone around the tank can impact the hazardous classification required for the dispenser.


Submitter Full Name: RANDY MOSES

Organization: WAYNE FUELING SYSTEMS LLC

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Statement: The revisions proposed in PIs 27, 53, and 74 require more review of requirements contained in NFPA30 and NFPA 70, as well as API RP 500. This work will be considered by the task group onalternative fuels.


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Table 8.3.2 Class I Locations — — Motor Fuel Dispensing Facilities

Class I

LocationDivision

(Group D)

Zone

(Group IIA)Extent of Classified Locationa

Dispensing device(except overhead

type) b,c


1 1 Entire space within and under dispenserpit or containment

Dispenser 2 2 Within 450 mm (18 in.) of dispenserenclosure or that portion of dispenserenclosure containing liquid handlingcomponents, extending horizontally in alldirections and down to grade level

Outdoor 2 2 Up to 450 mm (18 in.) above grade level,extending 6 m (20 ft) horizontally in alldirections from dispenser enclosure

Indoor


2 2 Up to 450 mm (18 in.) above floor level,extending 6 m (20 ft) horizontally in alldirections from dispenser enclosure

With gravity ventilation 2 2 Up to 450 mm (18 in.) above floor level,extending 7.5 m (25 ft) horizontally in alldirections from dispenser enclosure

Dispensing device

(overhead typed)

1 1 Space within dispenser enclosure and allelectrical equipment integral withdispensing hose or nozzle

2 2 Within 450 mm (18 in.) of dispenserenclosure, extending horizontally in alldirections and down to grade level

2 2 Up to 450 mm (18 in.) above grade level,extending 6 m (20 ft) horizontally in alldirections from a point vertically belowedge of dispenser enclosure

Repair garage, majore (where Class Iliquids or gaseousfuels are transferred

or dispensedf) (see3.3.12.1 and 8.3.1)

1 1 Entire space within any pit, belowgradework area, or subfloor work area that isnot ventilated

2 2 Entire space within any pit, belowgradework area, or subfloor work area that isprovided with ventilation of at least 0.3

m3/min/m2 (1 ft3/min/ft2) of floor area,with suction taken from a point within300 mm (12 in.) of floor level (see7.4.5.4)


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Class I

LocationDivision

(Group D)

Zone


2 2 Up to 450 mm (18 in.) above floor levelof the room, except as noted below, forentire floor area

Unclassified Unclassified Up to 450 mm (18 in.) above floor levelof the room where room is provided with

ventilation of at least 0.3 m3/min/m2 (1

ft3/min/ft 2) of floor area, with suctiontaken from a point within 300 mm (12 in.)of floor level

2 2 Within 0.9 m (3 ft) of any fill ordispensing point, extending in alldirections

Specific areasadjacent to classifiedlocations

Unclassified Unclassified Areas adjacent to classified locationswhere flammable vapors are not likely tobe released, such as stock rooms,switchboard rooms, and other similarlocations, where mechanically ventilatedat a rate of four or more air changes perhour or designed with positive airpressure or where effectively cut off bywalls or partitions

Repair garage, minore (where Class Iliquids or gaseousfuels are nottransferred or

dispensedf) (see3.3.12.2 and 8.3.1)

2 2 Entire space within any pit, belowgradework area, or subfloor work area that isnot ventilated

2 2 Up to 450 mm (18 in.) above floor level,extending 0.9 m (3 ft) horizontally in alldirections from opening to any pit,belowgrade work area, or subfloor workarea that is not ventilated

Unclassified Unclassified Entire space within any pit, belowgradework area, or subfloor work area that isprovided with ventilation of at least 0.3

m3/min/m2 (1 ft3/min/ft2) of floor area,with suction taken from a point within300 mm (12 in.) of floor level (see7.4.5.4)


Unclassified Unclassified Areas adjacent to classified locationswhere flammable vapors are not likely tobe released, such as stock rooms,switchboard rooms, and other similarlocations, where mechanically ventilatedat a rate of four or more air changes perhour or designed with positive airpressure, or where effectively cut off bywalls or partitions

Repair garage,

major e (wherelighter-than-air

2 2 Within 450 mm (18 in.) of ceiling, exceptas noted below


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Class I

LocationDivision

(Group D)

Zone


gaseous fueled g

vehicles are repairedor stored) (see3.3.12.1)

Unclassified Unclassified Within 450 mm (18 in.) ofceiling where ventilation of

at least 0.3 m 3 /min/m 2 (1

ft 3 /min/ft 2 ) of floor area,with suction taken from apoint within 450 mm (18 in.)of the highest point in theceiling


Unclassified Unclassified Areas adjacent to classified locationswhere flammable vapors are not likely tobe released, such as stock rooms,switchboard rooms, and other similarlocations, where mechanically ventilatedat a rate of four or more air changes perhour or designed with positive airpressure, or where effectively cut off bywalls or partitions

Remote pump

Outdoor 1 1 Entire space within any pit or box belowgrade level, any part of which is within 3m (10 ft) horizontally from any edge ofpump

2 2 Within 900 mm (3 ft) of any edge ofpump, extending horizontally in alldirections

2 2 Up to 450 m (18 in.) above grade level,extending 3 m (10 ft) horizontally in alldirections from any edge of pump


2 2 Within 1.5 m (5 ft) of any edge of pump,extending in all directions

2 2 Up to 900 mm (3 ft) above floor level,extending 7.5 m (25 ft) horizontally in alldirections from any edge of pump

Sales, storage, restrooms (includingstructures [such asthe attendant’sattendant’s kiosk] onor adjacent todispensers)


1 1 Entire volume, if there is any opening toroom within the extent of a Division 1 orZone 1 location

2 2 Entire volume, if there is any opening toroom within the extent of a Division 2 or


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Class I

LocationDivision

(Group D)

Zone


Zone 2 location

Tank, aboveground


Shell, ends, roof, dikearea

1 1 Entire space within dike, where dikeheight exceeds distance from tank shellto inside of dike wall for more than 50percent of tank circumference

2 2 Entire space within dike, where dikeheight does not exceed distance fromtank shell to inside of dike wall for morethan 50 percent of tank circumference

2 2 Within 3 m (10 ft) of shell, ends , or roofof tank

Vent 1 1 Within 1.5 m (5 ft) of open end of vent,extending in all directions

2 2 Between 1.5 m and 3 m (5 ft and 10 ft)from open end of vent, extending in alldirections

Tank, underground


Fill opening 1 1 Entire space within any pit or box belowgrade level, any part of which is within aDivision 1 or Division 2 classified locationor within a Zone 1 or Zone 2 classifiedlocation

2 2 Up to 450 mm (18 in.) above grade level,extending 1.5 m (5 ft) horizontally in alldirections from any tight-fill connectionand extending 3 m (10 ft) horizontally inall directions from any loose-fillconnection

Vent 1 1 Within 1.5 m (5 ft) of open end of vent,extending in all directions

2 2 Between 1.5 m and 3 m (5 ft and 10 ft)from open end of vent, extending in alldirections

Vapor processingsystem

Pits 1 1 Entire space within any pit or box belowgrade level, any part of which: (1) iswithin a Division 1 or Division 2 classifiedlocation; (2) is within a Zone 1 or Zone 2classified location; (3) houses anyequipment used to transfer or processvapors

Equipment inprotective enclosures



2 2 Within 450 mm (18 in.) of equipmentcontaining flammable vapors or liquid,extending horizontally in all directions


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Class I

LocationDivision

(Group D)

Zone


and down to grade level

2 2 Up to 450 m (18 in.) above grade levelwithin 3 m (10 ft) horizontally of the vaporprocessing equipment

Equipment enclosure 1 1 Entire space within enclosure, ifflammable vapor or liquid is presentunder normal operating conditions

2 2 Entire space within enclosure, ifflammable vapor or liquid is not presentunder normal operating conditions

Vacuum assist blower 2 2 Within 450 mm (18 in.) of blower,extending horizontally in all directionsand down to grade level

2 2 Up to 450 mm (18 in.) above grade level,extending 3 m (10 ft) horizontally in alldirections

Vault 1 1 Entire interior space, if Class I liquids arestored within







g Includes fuels such as hydrogen and natural gas, but not LPG.



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The intent here is to delete reference to gaseous fuels in Table 8.3.2. Hope Terra shows that correctly.

Section 8.3.2 refers only to class I liquids not gaseous fuels so the table exceeds its charging statement (8.3.2) by including gaseaous fuels. Also the requirements for hydrogen are included in NFPA 2.




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Table 8.3.2 Class I Locations — Motor Fuel Dispensing Facilities

Class I

LocationDivision

(Group D)

Zone

(GroupIIA)

Extent of Classified Locationa

Dispensing device (except

overhead type) b,c


1 1 Entire space within and under dispenser pit orcontainment

Dispenser 2 2 Within 450 mm (18 in.) of dispenser enclosure or thatportion of dispenser enclosure containing liquidhandling components, extending horizontally in alldirections and down to grade level

Outdoor 2 2 Up to 450 mm (18 in.) above grade level, extending 6m (20 ft) horizontally in all directions from dispenserenclosure

Indoor


2 2 Up to 450 mm (18 in.) above floor level, extending 6m (20 ft) horizontally in all directions from dispenserenclosure

With gravity ventilation 2 2 Up to 450 mm (18 in.) above floor level, extending 7.5m (25 ft) horizontally in all directions from dispenserenclosure

Dispensing device

(overhead typed)

1 1 Space within dispenser enclosure and all electricalequipment integral with dispensing hose or nozzle

2 2 Within 450 mm (18 in.) of dispenser enclosure,extending horizontally in all directions and down tograde level

2 2 Up to 450 mm (18 in.) above grade level, extending 6m (20 ft) horizontally in all directions from a pointvertically below edge of dispenser enclosure


(where Class I liquids orgaseous fuels are

transferred or dispensedf)(see 3.3.12.1 and 8.3.1)

1 1 Entire space within any pit, belowgrade work area, orsubfloor work area that is not ventilated

2 2 Entire space within any pit, belowgrade work area, orsubfloor work area that is provided with ventilation of

at least 0.3 m3/min/m2 (1 ft3/min/ft2) of floor area,with suction taken from a point within 300 mm (12 in.)of floor level (see 7.4.5.4)

2 2 Up to 450 mm (18 in.) above floor level of the room,except as noted below, for entire floor area

Unclassified Unclassified Up to 450 mm (18 in.) above floor level of the roomwhere room is provided with ventilation of at least 0.3

m3/min/m2 (1 ft3/min/ft 2) of floor area, with suctiontaken from a point within 300 mm (12 in.) of floor level


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Class I

LocationDivision

(Group D)

Zone

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2 2 Within 0.9 m (3 ft) of any fill or dispensing point,extending in all directions


Unclassified Unclassified Areas adjacent to classified locations whereflammable vapors are not likely to be released, suchas stock rooms, switchboard rooms, and other similarlocations, where mechanically ventilated at a rate offour or more air changes per hour or designed withpositive air pressure or where effectively cut off bywalls or partitions

Repair garage, minor e

(where Class I liquids orgaseous fuels are not

transferred or dispensedf)(see 3.3.12.2 and 8.3.1)

2 2 Entire space within any pit, belowgrade work area, orsubfloor work area that is not ventilated

2 2 Up to 450 mm (18 in.) above floor level, extending 0.9m (3 ft) horizontally in all directions from opening toany pit, belowgrade work area, or subfloor work areathat is not ventilated

Unclassified Unclassified Entire space within any pit, belowgrade work area, orsubfloor work area that is provided with ventilation of

at least 0.3 m3/min/m2 (1 ft3/min/ft2) of floor area,with suction taken from a point within 300 mm (12 in.)of floor level (see 7.4.5.4)


Unclassified Unclassified Areas adjacent to classified locations whereflammable vapors are not likely to be released, suchas stock rooms, switchboard rooms, and other similarlocations, where mechanically ventilated at a rate offour or more air changes per hour or designed withpositive air pressure, or where effectively cut off bywalls or partitions


(where lighter-than-air

gaseous fueled g vehiclesare repaired or stored)(see 3.3.12.1)

2 2 Within 450 mm (18 in.) of ceiling, except as notedbelow

Unclassified Unclassified Within 450 mm (18 in.) of ceiling where ventilation of

at least 0.3 m3/min/m2 (1 ft3/min/ft2) of floor area,with suction taken from a point within 450 mm (18 in.)of the highest point in the ceiling


Unclassified Unclassified Areas adjacent to classified locations whereflammable vapors are not likely to be released, suchas stock rooms, switchboard rooms, and other similarlocations, where mechanically ventilated at a rate offour or more air changes per hour or designed withpositive air pressure, or where effectively cut off bywalls or partitions

Remote pump

Outdoor 1 1 Entire space within any pit or box below grade level,any part of which is within 3 m (10 ft) horizontally fromany edge of pump


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Class I

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(Group D)

Zone

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2 2 Within 900 mm (3 ft) of any edge of pump, extendinghorizontally in all directions

2 2 Up to 450 m (18 in.) above grade level, extending 3 m(10 ft) horizontally in all directions from any edge ofpump


2 2 Within 1.5 m (5 ft) of any edge of pump, extending inall directions

2 2 Up to 900 mm (3 ft) above floor level, extending 7.5 m(25 ft) horizontally in all directions from any edge ofpump

Sales, storage, rest rooms(including structures [suchas the attendant’s kiosk]on or adjacent todispensers)




Tank, aboveground


Shell, ends, roof, dike area 1 1 Entire space within dike, where dike height exceedsdistance from tank shell to inside of dike wall for morethan 50 percent of tank circumference

2 2 Entire space within dike, where dike height does notexceed distance from tank shell to inside of dike wallfor more than 50 percent of tank circumference

2 2 Within 3 m (10 ft) of shell, ends , or roof of tank

Vent 1 1 Within 1.5 m (5 ft) of open end of vent, extending in alldirections

2 2 Between 1.5 m and 3 m (5 ft and 10 ft) from open endof vent, extending in all directions

Tank, underground


Fill opening 1 1 Entire space within any pit or box below grade level,any part of which is within a Division 1 or Division 2classified location or within a Zone 1 or Zone 2classified location

2 2 Up to 450 mm (18 in.) above grade level, extending1.5 m (5 ft) horizontally in all directions from anytight-fill connection and extending 3 m (10 ft)horizontally in all directions from any loose-fillconnection

Vent 1 1 Within 1.5 m (5 ft) of open end of vent, extending in alldirections

2 2 Between 1.5 m and 3 m (5 ft and 10 ft) from open endof vent, extending in all directions


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Class I

LocationDivision

(Group D)

Zone

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Vapor processing system

Pits 1 1 Entire space within any pit or box below grade level,any part of which: (1) is within a Division 1 or Division2 classified location; (2) is within a Zone 1 or Zone 2classified location; (3) houses any equipment used totransfer or process vapors

Equipment in protectiveenclosures



2 2 Within 450 mm (18 in.) of equipment containingflammable vapors or liquid, extending horizontally inall directions and down to grade level

2 2 Up to 450 m (18 in.) above grade level within 3 m (10ft) horizontally of the vapor processing equipment

Equipment enclosure 1 1 Entire space within enclosure, if flammable vapor orliquid is present under normal operating conditions

2 2 Entire space within enclosure, if flammable vapor orliquid is not present under normal operatingconditions

Vacuum assist blower 2 2 Within 450 mm (18 in.) of blower, extendinghorizontally in all directions and down to grade level

2 2 Up to 450 mm (18 in.) above grade level, extending 3m (10 ft) horizontally in all directions

Vault 1 1 Entire interior space, if Class I liquids are storedwithin







g Includes fuels such as hydrogen and natural gas, but not LPG.



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The start of 8.3.2, clearly states that Table 8.3.2 "where Class I liquids are stored, handled, or dispensed." Therefore, all references to gaseous fuels should be deleted. The electrical classification requirements for gaseous fuels are listed in NFPA52 (CNG) and NFPA2 (Hydrogen) and the requirements for gaseous fuels in 8.3.2 creates a conflict





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9.2.2.2.1

Separation of delivery vehicle from tank can be through the use of a protected tank, remote fill or barrierwall to meet separtion distance from storage tank.


Fire safety. Need to keep vehicle away from tank. As written, 9.2.2.2 is not enforceable. The "honor" system does not work.




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9.2.5.5* Display of Materials. The storage or placement for display or sale of combustibles shall beprohibited within 20 feet of a fuel dispenser.



30A-PC2.pdf 30A Public Comment 2.



Display material obstructs the view of the attendant and adds a fuel load that is not needed in the area of the fuel dispensers.


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Statement: Such displayed material obstructs the view of the attendant and/or consumer and adds a fuel loadthat should not be in the area of the fuel dispenser.


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Public Comment No. 2-NFPA 30A-2013 [ New Section after 9.2.5.4 ]

9.2.5.5* Display of Materials. The storage or placement for display or sale ofcombustibles shall be prohibited within 20 feet of a fuel dispenser.






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Resolution: Public Comment No. 2 proposes a change to a paragraph in NFPA 30A that was notamended at the First Draft stage of this revision cycle. To accept this change would effectan amendment to the Code without its having undergone public review and comment.Therefore, in accordance with Paragraphs 4.4.4.2 and 4.4.8.3 of the RegulationsGoverning the Development of NFPA Standards, the Technical Committee has voted toreject Public Comment No. 2 and hold it for processing as a Public Input at the nextdocument revision cycle.


I, Doug Hohbein, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights incopyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). Iunderstand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this PublicComment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment andthat I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment.

By checking this box I affirm that I am Doug Hohbein, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment andthe terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronicsignature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature


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9.2.9 Fuel Pad

Fuel pad must be an impervious surface.


The addition of this requirement, impervious fuel pad, would eliminate most contamination incidents, and fire hazards associated with motor fueling.




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9.4.2

There shall be at least one attendant on duty while the self-service facility is open for business. Theattendant’s primary function shall be to supervise, observe, and control the dispensing of

Class I

liquids while said liquids are being dispensed.


the attendant must monitor ALL dispensing at a facility, not just Class I dispensing. If the intent was to not have attendant monitor diesel fueling, the reason escapes this fire marshal division.




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Statement: This revision was made to be consistent with multiple liquid fuel cells at a retail facility.


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10.2.2

Hose nozzle valves used on vapor recovery systems shall be listed for the purpose in accordance withANSI/UL 2586, Standard for Hose Nozzle Valve or ANSI/UL 2586A Standard for Hose Nozzle Valves forGasoline and Gasoline/Ethanol Blends with Nominal Ethanol Concentrations Up to 85 Percent (E0 - E85) .for the purpose. .


This proposal clarifies the standards used to list hose nozzle valves.




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11.4.1

All hose shall be listed in accordance with ANSI/UL 330, Standard for Hose and Hose Assemblies forDispensing Flammable Liquids or UL 330A Outline for Hose and Hose Assemblies for Use WithDispensing Devices Dispensing Gasoline and Gasoline/Ethanol Blends With Nominal EthanolConcentrations Up To 85 Percent (E0 - E85) . Where hose length exceeds 5.5 m (18 ft), the hose shall besecured so as to protect it from damage.


This identifies the standards used to list hose.




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11.9.4

The dispensing nozzle shall be a listed, Dispensing nozzles shall be of the automatic-closing type withouta latch-open device and shall be listed in accordance with ANSI/UL 2586, Standard for Hose NozzleValves or UL 2586A Standard for Hose Nozzle Valves for Gasoline and Gasoline/Ethanol Blends withNominal Ethanol Concentrations Up to 85 Percent (E0 - E85) .


This identifies the standards used to list dispensing nozzles.




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12.2.3

Dispensing devices for CNG, LNG, hydrogen, and LP-Gas shall be listed.


Section 1.1.3 excludes LPG, LNG, and CNG from the scope of NFPA30A. This section conflicts with the scope exclusion and should be deleted.



Public Input No. 5-NFPA 30A-2015 [Section No. 1.1.3] PI 5 excludes hydrogen from NFPA30A






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12.2.3

Dispensing devices for CNG, LNG, hydrogen, and LP-Gas shall be listed or approved .


This proposal should only be considered if PI23 is rejected. Due to the limited number of suppliers and products, many of the components used on hydrogen dispensingare not listed. These components have been tested to ensure they meet industry standards, but have not gone through the certification process. The "approval" option is key to ensure that approved components can be used when a listed one is not available.



Public Input No. 23-NFPA 30A-2015 [Section No.12.2.3]

PI75 should only be considered if PI23 isrejected





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Statement: This revision recognizes that the development of system components for alternative fuels isproceeding concurrently with the development of listing standards. This allows flexibility to theauthority having jurisdiction in evaluating new installations.


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12.2.4

Listed or approved hose assemblies shall be used to dispense fuel. Hose length at automotive motor fueldispensing facilities shall not exceed 5.5 m (18 ft).


Due to the limited number of suppliers and products, many of the components used on hydrogen dispensing are not listed. These components have been tested to ensure they meet industry standards, but have not gone through the certification process. The "approval" option is key to ensure that approved components can be used when a listed one is not available.





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12.2.4



Due to the limited number of suppliers and products, many of the components used on hydrogen dispensingare not listed. These components have been tested to ensure they are safe, but have not gone through thecertification process. The "approval" option is key to ensure that safe, approved components can be usedwhen a listed one is not available.




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12.2.4



Due to the limited number of suppliers and products, many of the components used on hydrogen dispensing are not listed. These components have been tested to ensure they are safe, but have not gone through the certification process. The "approval" option is key to ensure that safe, approved components can be used when a listed one is not available.




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12.6.2*

Table 12.6.2 shall be used to delineate and classify areas for the purpose of installation of electrical wiringand electrical utilization equipment.

Table 12.6.2 Electrical Equipment Classified Areas for Dispensing Devices

Extent of Classified Area

Dispensing

Device

Class I,

Division 1

Class I,

Division 2

Compressed

natural gas(CNG)

Entire space within the dispenser enclosure1.5 m (5 ft) in all directions fromdispenser enclosure

Liquefied

natural gas(LNG)

Entire space within the dispenser enclosure3 m (10 ft) in all directions from thedispenser enclosure

Liquefied

petroleum gas(LP-Gas)

Entire space within the dispenser enclosure; 46 cm (18in.) from the exterior surface of the dispenserenclosure to an elevation of 1.22 m (4 ft) above thebase of the dispenser; the entire pit or open spacebeneath the dispenser and within 6 m (20 ft)horizontally from any edge of the dispenser when thepit or trench is not mechanically ventilated

Up to 46 cm (18 in.) above groundand within 6 m (20 ft) horizontallyfrom any edge of the dispenserenclosure, including pits ortrenches within this area whenprovided with adequate mechanicalventilation



30A_TIA_15-1.pdf TIA 15-1. Issue Date: March 14, 2014


This public input originates from Tentative Interim Amendment 15-1 (Log #1126) issued by the Standards Council on March 14, 2014 and per the NFPA Regs., needs to be reconsidered by the Technical Committee for the next edition of the Document.

TIA Submitter’s Substantiation: Chapter 12 of NFPA 30A provides certain provisions for alternative vehicle fuels, including compressed natural gas (CNG), liquefied natural gas (LNG), hydrogen H2, and liquefied petroleum gas (LPG). As part of these provisions, Chapter 12 mandates compliance with NFPA 52, Vehicular Gaseous Fuel Systems Code, NFPA 58, Liquefied Petroleum Gas Code, and NFPA 2, Hydrogen Technologies Code, except as modified by the chapter to accommodate dispensing of traditional liquid fuels (gasoline, diesel fuel).

At the First Draft stage for the 2015 edition of NFPA 30A, Public Input No. 21 proposed the above amendment in order to make the information specific to LNG consistent with NFPA 52. The resolution of this public input was to establish a Task Group to review Chapter 12 of NFPA 30A to confirm that existing requirements did not conflict with the other documents and to identify appropriate new requirements to address any provisions that were not consistent. The Task Group was asked to review several Public Inputs to Chapter 12, in addition to No. 21.

At the Second Draft stage, Second Revision No. 4 proposed amending Table 12.6.2 so that the Class I, Division 1 classification applied only to the interior of an LNG dispenser and the Class I, Division 2 classification applied outside the dispenser enclosure, out to a distance of 3 m (10 ft). During the transcription process, the text under the column heading “Class I, Division 1” that was supposed to have been deleted was not deleted. Consequently, the entry for LNG applies both Class I, Division 1 and Class I, Division 2 designations to the area within 1.5 m (5 ft)


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of the dispenser enclosure.

Emergency Nature: If this error is not corrected, then Table 12.6.2 will apply conflicting area classification designations to the zone between the dispenser enclosure out to a distance of 1.5 m (5 ft). Electrical inspectors will be in a quandary as to which designation truly applies. Designers and installers will be faced with the same problem. Also, a potential conflict will exist between Table 12.6.2 and NFPA 52, as the latter classifies only the interior of the dispenser enclosure as Class I, Division 1.

Acceptance of this Tentative Interim Amendment will allow the 2015 edition of NFPA 30A to be published correctly.

This Tentative Interim Amendment is submitted in accordance with Section 5.3, Evaluation of Emergency Nature, Sub-Paragraph (a): NFPA standard contains an error or omission that was overlooked during a regular revision process.


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Statement: This revision was made to reaffirm the language in TIA 30A-15-1. The committee will reviewrequirements and consider additional revisions to this section via a task group that will addressalternative fuels.


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Tentative Interim Amendment

NFPA® 30A Code for Motor Fuel Dispensing Facilities and Repair Garages

2015 Edition Reference: Table 12.6.2 TIA 15-1 (SC 14-3-5/TIA Log #1126) Note: Text of the TIA issued and incorporated into the text of Table 12.6.2, therefore no separate publication is necessary. 1. In Table 12.6.2, amend the electrical area classification provisions for liquefied natural gas (LNG) as follows:

Table 12.6.2 Electrical Equipment Classified Areas for Dispensing Devices

Extent of Classified Area

Dispensing Device

Class I, Division 1

Class I, Division 2

Compressed natural gas (CNG)

Entire space within the dispenser enclosure 1.5 m (5 ft) in all directions from dispenser enclosure

Liquefied natural gas (LNG)

Entire space within the dispenser enclosure 3 m (10 ft) in all directions from the dispenser enclosure

Liquefied petroleum gas (LP-Gas)

Entire space within the dispenser enclosure; 46 cm (18 in.) from the exterior surface of the dispenser enclosure to an elevation of 1.22 m (4 ft) above the base of the dispenser; the entire pit or open space beneath the dispenser and within 6 m (20 ft) horizontally from any edge of the dispenser when the pit or trench is not mechanically ventilated

Up to 46 cm (18 in.) above ground and within 6 m (20 ft) horizontally from any edge of the dispenser enclosure, including pits or trenches within this area when provided with adequate mechanical ventilation

Issue Date: March 14, 2014 Effective Date: March 29, 2014

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13.2.3.6

Tanks shall be located outside and at least 12 m (40 ft) from any important building and property line .Tanks shall also be located so that any vehicle, equipment, or container that is filled directly from the tanksis at least 12 m (40 ft) from any important building.


confusion as to locating storage system on property. Previous version of 30A spelled out distance from building and property line.




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13.2.3.9

Tanks that have top openings only shall be mounted and equipped as follows:

(1)

(2) Movable tanks shall be equipped with attached metal legs that rest on shoes or runners designed sothat the tank is supported in a stable position and so that the tank and its supports can be moved as asingle unit.

(3) Tanks shall be equipped with a tightly and permanently attached approved pumping device having anapproved hose and nozzle.

(4) Each component of dispensing systems for Class I liquids shall be listed.

(5) The dispenser nozzle and hose shall be designed so they can be padlocked to the hanger to preventtampering.

(6) The pump discharge shall be equipped with an effective anti-siphoning device, or the discharge hoseshall be equipped with an approved self-closing nozzle.

(7) Siphons or internal pressure discharge devices shall be prohibited.

(8) Tanks shall have non-porous containment protection = 1/2 of the total volume of the tank.



30A-PC5.pdf Public Comment #5.



Due to the lack of local enforcement on farms and remote areas, the requirement for capture of flammable liquids must be required to contain and prevent potential fires to humans, grass, equipment, buildings, and out structures that may be located adjacent to such tanks. Protection of the surrounding area and ground water from flammable liquids will increase overall safety.


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Resolution: The term non-porous is not defined and there is no performance criteria associated with it.

* Stationary tanks shall be mounted on concrete, steel, or masonry supports at least 150 mm (6 in.)in height so as to protect the bottom of the tank from corrosion due to contact with the ground and tomaintain the tank in a stable position.


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Public Comment No. 5-NFPA 30A-2013 [ Section No. 13.2.3.9 ]

13.2.3.9


(1)

(2) Movable tanks shall be equipped with attached metal legs that rest on shoes or runners designed so thatthe tank is supported in a stable position and so that the tank and its supports can be moved as a singleunit.


(4) Each component of dispensing systems for Class I liquids shall be listed.


(6) The pump discharge shall be equipped with an effective anti-siphoning device, or the discharge hose shallbe equipped with an approved self-closing nozzle.


(8) Tanks shall have non-porous containment protection equal ½ of the total volume of the tank.


Due to the lack of local enforcement on farms and remote areas, the requirement for capture of flammable liquids must be required to contain and prevent potential fires to humans, grass, equipment, buildings, and out structures that may be located adjacent to such tanks. Protection of the surrounding area and ground water from flammable liquids will increase overall safety.




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* Stationary tanks shall be mounted on concrete, steel, or masonry supports at least 150 mm (6 in.) inheight so as to protect the bottom of the tank from corrosion due to contact with the ground and tomaintain the tank in a stable position.


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13.2.3.9


(1)

(2) Movable tanks shall be equipped with attached metal legs that rest on shoes or runners designed sothat the tank is supported in a stable position and so that the tank and its supports can be moved as asingle unit.


(4) Each component of dispensing systems for Class I liquids shall be listed in accordance with ANSI/UL79, Standard for Power-Operated Pumps for Petroleum Dispensing Products, UL 87, Standard forPower-Operated Pumps for Petroleum Dispensing Products or UL Subject 87A, Outline ofInvestigation for Power-Operated Dispensing Devices for Gasoline and Gasoline/Ethanol Blends withNominal Ethanol Concentrations Up to 85 Percent (E0-E85) .


(6) The pump discharge shall be equipped with an effective anti-siphoning device, or the discharge hoseshall be equipped with an approved self-closing nozzle.



This proposal identifies the standards used to list the dispensing devices that can be utilized in this application.




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Public Input No. 40-NFPA 30A-2015 [ Section No. A.1.1.3 ]

A.1.1.3

See NFPA 2, Hydrogen Technologies Code, NFPA 52, Vehicular Gaseous Fuel Systems Code, and NFPA58, Liquefied Petroleum Gas Code, for requirements for facilities where only these fuels are dispensed.Forfacilities where multiple fuel types are dispensed, the requirements of each applicable code shall apply.


NFPA 2, Hydrogen Technologies Code, is not currently recognized in Chapter 1 Administration yet NFPA 2 contains two chapters on hydrogen fueling facilities (i.e. - Chapter 10 – GH2 Vehicle Fueling Facilities; and Chapter 11 – LH2 Fueling Facilities) as well as a chapter on repair garages servicing hydrogen-fueled vehicles (i.e. - Chapter 18 – Repair Garages). These requirements are contained only in NFPA 2 and nowhere else. Previous text in NFPA 52 has been removed. The Standards Council has revised the Scope of NFPA 52 and removed fueling of hydrogen-fuel cell vehicles (FCV).

Also, new text has been added to clarify that the application of multiple codes is required when multiple fuel types are utilized.



Public Input No. 39-NFPA 30A-2015 [Section No. 1.1.3] This is Annex text for the text in the related PI-39.




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Public Input No. 76-NFPA 30A-2015 [ Section No. A.1.1.3 ]

A.1.1.3

See NFPA NFPA 2, Hydrogen Technologies Code, NFPA 52, Vehicular Gaseous Fuel Systems Code,and NFPA 58, Liquefied Petroleum Gas Code, for requirements for facilities where only these fuels aredispensed. For facilities where multiple fuel types are dispensed, the requirements of each applicablecode shall apply.


NFPA 2, Hydrogen Technologies Code, is not currently recognized in Chapter 1 Administration yet NFPA 2 contains two chapters on hydrogen fueling facilities (i.e. - Chapter 10 – GH2 Vehicle Fueling Facilities; and Chapter 11 – LH2 Fueling Facilities) as well as a chapter on repair garages servicing hydrogen-fueled vehicles (i.e. - Chapter 18 – Repair Garages). These requirements are contained only in NFPA 2 and nowhere else. Previous text in NFPA 52 has been removed. The Standards Council has revised the Scope of NFPA 52 and removed fueling of hydrogen-fuel cell vehicles (FCV). Also, new text has been added to clarify that the application of multiple codes is required when multiple fuel types are utilized.



Public Input No. 5-NFPA 30A-2015 [Section No. 1.1.3] Appendix material for Section 1.1.3





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Public Input No. 18-NFPA 30A-2015 [ New Section after A.9.2.5.4 ]

A.9.2.5.5 Many self-service stations display items such as wood, bagged ground cover, cartons ofconsumable products and other combustibles that create vision obstructions, excessive fire load and otherhazards in and around dispensing islands and pumps.



30A-PC3.pdf NFPA 30A Public Comment 3.





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Statement: Such displayed material obstructs the view of the attendant and/or consumer and adds a fuel loadthat should not be in the area of the fuel dispenser.


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Public Comment No. 3-NFPA 30A-2013 [ New Section after A.9.2.5.4 ]

A.9.2.5.5 Many self-service stations display items such as wood, bagged ground cover,cartons of consumable products and other combustibles that create vision obstructions,excessive fire load and other hazards in and around dispensing islands and pumps.






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Rejected but held

Resolution: Public Comment No. 3 proposes a change to a paragraph in NFPA 30A that was notamended at the First Draft stage of this revision cycle. To accept this change would effectan amendment to the Code without its having undergone public review and comment.Therefore, in accordance with Paragraphs 4.4.4.2 and 4.4.8.3 of the RegulationsGoverning the Development of NFPA Standards, the Technical Committee has voted toreject Public Comment No. 3 and hold it for processing as a Public Input at the nextdocument revision cycle. The Technical Committee also points out that, as submitted, thisPublic Comment would add an annex statement to a paragraph that does not exist. TheTechnical Committee suggests that the submitter resubmit this change as a Public Inputduring the next document revision cycle and to either resubmit it in the form a coderequirement or identify an appropriate code section to which the annex statement can beconnected.


I, Doug Hohbein, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights incopyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). Iunderstand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this PublicComment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment andthat I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment.

By checking this box I affirm that I am Doug Hohbein, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment andthe terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronicsignature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature


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Public Input No. 4-NFPA 30A-2015 [ Section No. D.1.2 ]

D.1.2 Other Publications.

D.1.2.1 ANSI Publications.

American National Standards Institute, Inc., 25 West 43rd Street, 4th Floor, New York, NY 10036.

ANSI Z400.1/ Z129.1, Hazardous Industrial Chemicals—Precautionary Labeling, 2005 WorkplaceChemicals - Hazard Evaluation Safety Data Sheet and Precautionary LabellingPreparation, 2010 .

D.1.2.2 API Publications.


API RP 1621, Recommended Practice for Bulk Liquid Stock Control at Retail Outlets, 1993, reaffirmed2012 .

D.1.2.3 PEI Publications.

Petroleum Equipment Institute, P.O. Box 2380, Tulsa, OK 74101–2380.

PEI RP200, Recommended Practices for Installation of Aboveground Storage Systems for Motor VehicleFueling , 1996 2013 .

PEI RP500, Recommended Practices for Inspection and Maintenance of Motor Fuel DispensingEquipment , 2005 2011 .

D.1.2.4 STI/SPFA Publications.

Steel Tank Institute/Steel Plate Fabricators Association , 944 Donata Court, Lake Zurich, IL 60047.

STI RP 01-69, Recommended Practice for SP0169 , Control of External Corrosion of Underground orSubmerged Metallic Piping Systems. (This is a NACE document)

STI RP 892-91 , Recommended Practice for Corrosion Protection of Underground Piping NetworksAssociated with Liquid Storage and Dispensing Systems , 2012 .

STI RP 1632, Cathodic Protection of Underground Petroleum Storage Tanks and Piping Systems. (This isan API recommended Practice)

D.1.2.5 SwRI Publications.

Southwest Research Institute, 6220 Culebra Road, P.O. Drawer 28510, San Antonio, TX 78228-0510.

SwRI 93, Testing Requirements for Protected Aboveground Flammable Liquid Fuel Storage Tanks, 2001edition.


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D.1.2.6 UL Publications.


ANSI/ UL 79, Standard for Power-Operated Pumps for Petroleum Dispensing Products, 2005, Revised2010 201 4 .

UL 87, Standard for Power-Operated Pumps for Petroleum Dispensing Products, 2001 200 1 , Revised2008.

UL Subject 87A Outline , Outline of Investigation for Power-Operated Dispensing Devices for Gasoline andGasoline/Ethanol Blends with Nominal Ethanol Concentrations Up to 85 Percent (E0-E85), 2010 201 4 .

ANSI/ UL 330, Standard for Hose and Hose Assemblies for Dispensing Flammable Liquids, 2009, Revised2011 201 4 .

ANSI/ UL 567, Standard for Emergency Breakaway Fittings, Swivel Connectors and Pipe-ConnectionFittings for Petroleum Products and LP-Gas, 2003, Revised 2011 2014 .

ANSI/ UL 842, Standard for Valves for Flammable Fluids, 2007, Revised 2011 201 4 .

ANSI/ UL 2085, Standard for Protected Aboveground Tanks for Flammable and Combustible Liquids, 1997,Revised 2010.

ANSI/ UL 2586, Standard for Hose Nozzle Valves, 2011, Revised 2012 201 4 .

D.1.2.7 U.S. Government Publications.

U.S. Government Printing Government Publishing Office, Washington, DC 20402.

DOT HM-181, Basis Hazmat Employee Training Program.

Title 29, Code of Federal Regulations, Part 1910.106.

Title 49, Code of Federal Regulations, Parts 171 and 173.


Referenced current SDO standard numbers, names, and years.



Public Input No. 3-NFPA 30A-2015[Section No. 2.3]


Public Input No. 2-NFPA 30A-2015 [GlobalInput]




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Public Input No. 60-NFPA 30A-2015 [ Section No. D.1.2.2 ]

D.1.2.2 API Publications.


API RP 1621, Recommended Practice for Bulk Liquid Stock Control at Retail Outlets, 5th Edition 1993.(Reaffirmed 2012)


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