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STATE OF RHODE ISLAND AND PROVIDENCE PLANTATIONS R.I. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * PUBLIC HEARING IN RE: RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR PAIN MANAGEMENT, OPIOID USE AND THE REGISTRATION OF DISTRIBUTORS OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES IN RHODE ISLAND * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * R.I. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH 3 FRANCIS STREET PROVIDENCE, RI 02908 APRIL 24, 2019 10:00 A.M. BEFORE: SULLIVAN ROBERTS, HEARING OFFICER M.E. HALL COURT REPORTING 108 WALNUT STREET WARWICK, RI 02888 (401) 461-3331 M.E. HALL COURT REPORTING (401) 461-3331 1 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 ORIGINAL

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Page 1: STATE OF RHODE ISLAND AND PROVIDENCE PLANTATIONS · 2019-08-15 · you. The next speaker is Steve Detoy. MR. DETOY: Thank you. Steve Detoy, D, as in David, E, T, as in Tom, O-Y, Director

STATE OF RHODE ISLAND AND PROVIDENCE PLANTATIONS

R.I. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH

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R.I. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH 3 FRANCIS STREET PROVIDENCE, RI 02908 APRIL 24, 2019 10:00 A.M.

BEFORE: SULLIVAN ROBERTS, HEARING OFFICER

M.E. HALL COURT REPORTING

108 WALNUT STREET

WARWICK, RI 02888

(401) 461-3331

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APPEARANCES:

ALSO PRESENT: PETER RAGOSTA, CHIEF OF PHARMACY

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E X H I B I T S

NO. DESCRIPTION PAGE

1 NOTICE OF PROPOSED RULE MAKING 8 2 PROPOSED REGULATIONS 8 3 EXISTING RULES AND REGULATIONS 8 4 CONCISE STATEMENT OF PROPOSED

NON-TECHNICAL AMENDMENTS 9 5 RIGL 21-28-3.01 9 6 OFFICE OF REGULATORY REFORM E-MAIL,

4-9-19 9

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(COMMENCED AT 10:08 A.M.)

HEARING OFFICER ROBERTS:

Welcome. We are here today to conduct a public

hearing concerning the Rules and Regulations

for Pain Management Opioid Use and the

Registration of Distributors and Controlled

Substances in Rhode Island. This hearing is

being conducted under the provisions of Rhode

Island General Laws 23-17 and 42-35. Today is

Wednesday, April 24, 2019. My name is Sullivan

Roberts, Rules Coordinator for the Rhode Island

Department of Health, also known as RIDOH, and

I will be the Hearing Officer for today's

proceedings. This is Peter Ragosta, Chief of

Pharmacy for RIDOH.

Before we start, and to prevent

any interruption of the proceedings, at this

time, I would like to ask those of you with

cell phones, pagers and watch alarms to turn

them off or set them to silent or vibrate.

The purpose of the hearing today

is to afford interested parties an opportunity

to comment on the proposed Regulations, allow

as many people as possible to be heard and to

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ensure that an accurate record of all comments

is obtained. This hearing is intended for your

participation only and is not intended to

provide a forum for discussing, debating,

arguing or otherwise having any dialogue on the

Regulations before us with RIDOH personnel as

part of this public hearing.

If you will like to speak, the

procedure we will use is as follows: Please

register to speak at the rear of the room.

Speakers will be taken in order of

registration. Up to five minutes will be

allowed for your presentation, unless the lack

of speakers allows for additional time. Any

interruptions due to the Stenographer's need to

clarify your testimony will not count against

your allotted time.

If you are reading off a

prepared document such as a paper copy or

electronic version of your testimony, we

politely request that you speak clearly and at

an unhurried pace so that the Stenographer can

appropriately capture your testimony in its

entirety. I will indicate when you have one

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minute of time remaining. If you are unable to

complete your testimony in the time allotted,

you may have an opportunity to speak if any

time is remaining after the other speakers who

have signed up complete their testimony.

When you are called, come to the

podium, identify yourself by name and

affiliation, if any. Please spell your name

and give the full name of your organization if

you use an acronym, such as NASA. Make your

presentation, and make sure to conclude within

the allotted time of five minutes. If you have

a written copy of your statement, we would

appreciate if you could provide it for the

record. If you read from an electronic version

of your testimony, we would appreciate if you

could provide a hard copy or e-mail us your

testimony. In accordance with the requirements

of the Administrative Procedures Act,

additional written comments on these proposed

amendments will be accepted by Monday, May 13,

2019. After the conclusion of the public

comment period, RIDOH has four options under

state law.

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The first option is to file the

Regulations as posted with the Secretary of

State.

The second option is to file

with minor technical changes such as correcting

spelling, punctuation, et cetera.

The third option is to make

non-technical changes in what you see before

you today, which would be addressed in RIDOH's

concise explanatory statement filed with the

final Regulations, and could also necessitate a

new public hearing and associated public notice

posting.

And the fourth option is to not

file the proposed Regulations in which case the

current Regulations would remain in effect.

Unless otherwise specified by law, regulation,

or at the discretion of RIDOH, once filed, the

Regulations become effective 20 days after

filing and have the force of law on that date.

Are there any questions on how the public

hearing will be conducted today?

(PAUSE)

HEARING OFFICER ROBERTS: At

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this time, for the record, we will have a

presentation of exhibits. The first exhibit is

the Notice of Proposed Rule Making posted on

the Rhode Island Secretary of State and RIDOH's

web sites on April 12, 2019.

(EXHIBIT 1, NOTICE OF PROPOSED

RULE MAKING, MARKED)

HEARING OFFICER ROBERTS: The

second exhibit is a copy of the proposed

Regulations with revisions indicated posted to

the Rhode Island Secretary of State's and

RIDOH's web sites on April 12, 2019.

(EXHIBIT 2, PROPOSED

REGULATIONS, MARKED)

HEARING OFFICER ROBERTS: The

third exhibit is a copy of the existing

Regulations for Pain Management Opioid Use and

the Registration of Distributors and Controlled

Substances in Rhode Island last filed with the

Rhode Island Secretary of State in July of

2018.

(EXHIBIT 3, EXISTING RULES AND

REGULATIONS, MARKED)

HEARING OFFICER ROBERTS: The

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fourth exhibit is the Concise Statement of

Proposed Non-technical Amendments to the

Regulations posted to the Rhode Island

Secretary of State's and RIDOH's web sites on

April 12, 2019.

(EXHIBIT 4, CONCISE STATEMENT OF

PROPOSED NON-TECHNICAL AMENDMENTS, MARKED)

HEARING OFFICER ROBERTS: The

fifth exhibit is a copy of Rhode Island General

Laws 21-28-3.01, the enabling statute for these

Regulations.

(EXHIBIT 5, RIGL 21-28-3.01,

MARKED)

HEARING OFFICER ROBERTS: The

sixth and final exhibit is a copy of the e-mail

dated April 9, 2019, from the Office of

Regulatory Reform to Sullivan Roberts,

confirming that Sullivan Roberts was authorized

to move forward with the promulgation of these

records.

(EXHIBIT 6, OFFICE OF REGULATORY

REFORM E-MAIL, 4-9-19, MARKED)

HEARING OFFICER ROBERTS: At

this time, I would like to call the first

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speaker, Kim M. Gilbout (sic)?

AUDIENCE: Gilbert.

HEARING OFFICER ROBERTS:

Gilbert. Sorry.

MS. GILBERT: Do you want me up

here?

HEARING OFFICER ROBERTS: Yes,

please.

MS. GILBERT: Good morning. My

name is Kim Gilbert. I'm an occupational

therapist in the State of Rhode Island. I'm

the vice-president of the Rhode Island

Occupational Therapy Association, and I'm a

member of the American Occupational Therapy

Association, and I'm here today to ask you to

consider adding occupational therapy under

Section 4.4, Section I, 1, that states, under

multi-disciplinary approach to treatment of

chronic pain, I'm asking you to consider adding

occupational therapy where you have already

included physical therapy. Would you like me

to give an explanation?

(PAUSE)

MS. GILBERT: Okay. Just I

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would like to say that occupational therapists

work in a wide range of areas, pediatrics and

adults, acute care, chronic care; and we often

work with individuals to mitigate pain in a

wide range of activities, splints, orthotics,

positioning and education; so, I think we would

be a good addition to non-medication options or

in addition to medication options. Thank you.

HEARING OFFICER ROBERTS: Thank

you. The next speaker is Steve Detoy.

MR. DETOY: Thank you. Steve

Detoy, D, as in David, E, T, as in Tom, O-Y,

Director of Government and Public Affairs for

the Rhode Island Medical Society. I had not

planned to be speaking today, but I do have two

issues that I wish to raise for consideration.

And the first one I will apologize because it's

something that's been here for awhile, and I

had not caught until this morning; and that is

under definitions. The proposed new definition

15, initial prescription means first

prescription given to someone who's new to the

prescription of opioids from your institution.

Does not -- physician offices would not

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technically be included in institutions, and I

know that that's be there for a while, but it

kind of is confusing without that inclusion of

office-based practice or out-patient or some

reference outside of an institution, which most

of us, I think, normally think of as the

hospital.

My main concern, also, this

morning goes around 4.4(Q). This deals with

the non-opioid directives and the statute that

was passed last year. Q starts with voluntary

non-opioid directive, which indicates to all

practitioners that the individual must not be

administered or offered a prescription or

medication. That definition goes beyond the

statute, particularly the clause which

indicates to all practitioners. It is not in

the statute. The statute requires a physician

to take and file in the patient's electronic

health record the request for non-opioid

directive.

I then move over from Q, which I,

to Q2, which requires that the non-opioid

directive or the revocation of such form must

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be filed in the patient's electronic health

record. That is true from the statute,

although the statute nor the Regulations make

any consideration for a physician practice or a

prescribing practice, whether it be podiatry,

dentist or whatever, that do not have

electronic records for their patients.

And the final clause also

requiring that they be filed in the PDMP goes

way beyond the law. First of all, I'm not sure

that physicians have the opportunity or the

logistical capability to file anything in the

PDMP. They are required to check it, but I

don't believe they have the ability to insert

information into the PDMP. Not only, in going

back to the, my first comment about Q being,

indicate to all practitioners, if it's in an

electronic health record, and that patient is a

participant in Current Care would be about the

only way that that could be made available; but

the physician may not know or would have no

reason to know that the patient is signed up

for Current Care. So, that's the only way that

information gets channeled and shared with

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other providers.

So, I would raise those comments,

and I think that they are significant enough to

require rewrite of this section so that we

don't inadvertently put a bunch of prescribers

in violation of the Regulations that go beyond

what the statute originally authorizes. Thank

you.

HEARING OFFICER ROBERTS: Thank

you. Are there any other persons present who

would like to make a statement concerning the

property Regulations?

(PAUSE)

HEARING OFFICER ROBERTS: Thank

you all for your attendance and for the

information you have offered. This hearing is

now closed.

(HEARING CLOSED AT 10:26 A.M.)

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C E R T I F I C A T E

I, Mary Ellen Hall, hereby certify that the foregoing is a true, accurate and complete transcript's of my notes taken at the above-entitled hearing.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this 24th day of April, 2019.

_______________________________ MARY ELLEN HALL, NOTARY PUBLIC/CERTIFIED COURT REPORTER

JOB DATE: 4-24-19

IN RE: PAIN MANAGEMENT, OPIOID USE AND THE REGISTRATION OF DISTRIBUTORS OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES IN RHODE ISLAND

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