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OBSERVAES SOBRE INTERDISCURSO1
Srio POSSENTI (UNICAMP, CNPq)
RESUMO: Este trabalho discute aspectos da noo de interdiscurso, com nfase em
aparentes incongruncias nas obras de Pcheu e !ourtine, notadamente no "ue se refereao tratamento do pr#$constru%do, em especifica&es propostas por Maingueneau e em uma
an'lise sum'ria de alguns fatos emp%ricos(
P)*)+R)S$!)+E: interdiscurso, assu-eitamento, simulacro, pr#$constru%do(
Sob divero !o"e # $o%i&o!i', di'%oi"o, e*eroe!eid'de, i!*er*e+*'%id'de #
-'d' " i"$%i-'!do '%" vi. e$e-&i-o, -o"o e 'be, o i!*erdi-ro rei!' ober'!o /
'%" *e"$o0 S-!eider -e' ' dier, ' $ro$2i*o de " *e"' be" e$e-&i-o e 3 $ri"eir'
vi*' !4o re%'-io!'do ' e' $rob%e"/*i-', qe 5ob o !o"e '$ie!*e de i!*er*e+*'%id'de,
6'*.7 o $%/io vo%*o ' er '%"' -oi' qe !4o . "'i "' &'*'%id'de, "' i" "
$ro-edi"e!*o de e-ri*r' -o"o o*ro q'%qer, 3 vee reivi!di-'do -o"o 8!i-o5
(S-!eider 19:;< ;9)0
T'"'!' !'!i"id'de $oderi' &'er $e!'r qe o o i!*erdi-ro !e" deveri'
"'i er " *e"' ($e%o "e!o, !4o !' &or"' de $rob%e"') o qe e *r'*'ri' '$e!' de
de*'%'r o qebr'#-'be=', e$e-i&i-'!do -'d' ve "'i "i!-io'"e!*e " -o!>!*o de
'$e-*o do di-ro, qe e &!d'" !e' -'*eori' o qe ' *r'!&or"'r'" e" "
"o!"e!*o *e2ri-o e e"$ri-o0
M' ' A!/%ie do Di-ro !4o &!-io!' -o"o ($o"o qe &!-io!') ' &i-' o
"e"o ' r'"/*i-' er'*iv', o e>', ' $'r*ir d' 8%*i"' ver4o d' *eori', $orqe e%' *eri'
$er'do ' '!*eriore0 Io i!i&i-' qe !4o / $ro$ri'"e!*e, !o -'"$o d' AD, qe*?e
ve!-id'0 E $or io e"$re 'veri' o qe dier *'"b." obre i!*erdi-ro0Por e+e"$%o, / '%" *e"$o, @iori! (199) $ro$ qe e di*i!ie
i!*er*e+*'%id'de de i!*erdi-rivid'de (' e!d' i"$%i-' ' $ri"eir', "' ' re%'=4o i!ver'
!4o . !e-e'ri'"e!*e verd'deir')0 Creio qe e *r'*', de "'!eir' er'%, de "' di*i!=4o
i"$or*'!*e, e"bor' $o' er $rob%e"'*i'd', e e "o*r'r -o!vi!-e!*e"e!*e qe o *e+*o .
1O *e+*o &oi $b%i-'do !' Revi*' e*r' !0 1, Cri*ib', U@PR, $$0 ;F#90
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"'i qe ' "'*eri'%id'de %i!G*i-', &'e!do $'r*e d' $r2$ri' di-rivid'de, !' "edid' e"
qe " di-ro, e" de-orrH!-i' de ' e"!*i-' %ob'%, $'re-e $re&erir -er*o H!ero '
o*ro, -o"o . o -'o do >'!e!i"o e do "'!i"o devo*o, e!do ' '!/%ie de
M'i!e!e (19:) o i!*rodir -i*'=?e e!do e*r'*.i' diver', e!do e *r'*' de
"' o de o*r' &o!*e (Br!e%%i (JJ1) "o*r' qe o di-ro d' '*o#'>d' -i*' &o!*e
-o"o ' Bb%i' 2 !' &or"' de di-ro dire*o, "' -i*' i!di&ere!*e"e!*e e" di-ro dire*o
e i!dire*o *e+*o "e!o 5'%*o5)0 Io e" -o!*'r ' $rob%e"/*i-' do e*o, qe .,
evide!*e"e!*e, di-riv', "' qe -o!&ir' o *e+*o de -er*' &or"'0
Ne*e *r'b'%o, dee>o '$e!' -o"e!*'r -er*o '$e-*o d' de&i!i=?e # e de
'%"' de ' -o!eqGH!-i' # de i!*erdi-ro e" PH-e+ (19K;) e e" Cor*i!e (19:1),
de " %'do, e e" M'i!e!e', de o*ro0
Ve>'"o o qe $'re-e -o!e!'%0 E" C'r'de' e M'i!e!e' (JJ), overbe*e 5i!*erdi-ro5 . '$ree!*'do -o" " e!*ido re*ri*ivo (-o!>!*o de di-ro do
"e"o -'"$o qe "'!*H" re%'=?e de de%i"i*'=4o re-$ro-' ! -o" o o*ro) e -o" "
e!*ido '"$%o (-o!>!*o d' !id'de di-riv' -o" ' q'i " di-ro e!*r' e"
re%'=4o e+$%-i*' o i"$%-i*')0 No "e"o verbe*e, " b#i*e" re&ere#e 'o 5$ri"'do do
i!*erdi-ro5, "' *ee d' e-o%' &r'!-e', *'!*o e" *eori' q'!*o e" '!/%ie0 T'% $ri"'do
i"$%i-' qe "' @D $rod o '>ei*'"e!*o do >ei*o !' "edid' e" qe -'d' @D .
do"i!'d' $e%o i!*erdi-ro e e+-%i qe e>'" -o%o-'d' e" -o!*r'*e @D -o!ider'd'
i!de$e!de!*e"e!*e "' d' o*r'0
V'%e ' $e!' re*er, dee di-io!/rio, o &'*o de qe $ro$?e de&i!i=?e "'i re*ri*' e
"'i '"$%'0
Em Pcheux
U"' d' *ee de PH-e+ (19K;
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'qi deve &i-'r de %'do)0 O qe e e$e-i&i-' "e%or e" o*r' $''e", !' q'% o '*or
$ro$?e 5-'"'r i!*erdi-ro ' ee 5*odo -o"$%e+o -o" do"i!'!*e5 d' &or"'=?e
di-riv', e-%'re-e!do qe *'"b." e%e . b"e*ido 3 %ei de dei'%d'de#-o!*r'di=4o#
bordi!'=4o qe (000) -'r'-*eri' o -o"$%e+o d' &or"'=?e ideo%2i-'5 (ibide")0 Ne'
$''e", o qe "'i i"$or*' de*'-'r . ' -'r'-*eri'=4o do *odo -o"$%e+o -o"
do"i!'!*e -o"o i!*erdi-ro e ' i!i*H!-i' e" dier qe "' @D de$e!de de%e0
A"b' ' &or"%'=?e $'re-e" $%e!'"e!*e '-ei*/vei, $e%o "e!o e" re%'=4o 'o
qe &oi de*'-'do (qero dier qe '%." $oderi' '-ei*'r e' *ee e" -o!ider'r, o
"e"o !4o '-ei*'!do, ' *ee d' dii"%'=4o)0 M', $e%o "e!o $'r' "i" (*'%ve " "'
>ei*o000), 3 "edid' qe io e de*'%', qe o*r' -'*eori' e de&i!e", !e" *do
-o!*i!' *4o -%'ro0
Re&iro#"e e$e-i&i-'"e!*e 'o $'$e% -r-i'% do $r.#-o!*rdo0 A*r'v. de*e-o!-ei*o, "' i!*ere'!*i"' re&or"%'=4o d' !o=4o de $re$oi=4o, ' AD $re*e!de
d'r -o!*' do &'*o de qe '%o e"$re &'%' '!*e e '%re0 O $r.#-o!*rdo 5-orre$o!de 'o
5e"$re#>/#'5 d' i!*er$e%'=4o ideo%2i-' qe &or!e-e#i"$?e ' 5re'%id'de5 e e 5e!*ido5
ob ' &or"' de !iver'%id'de (5o "!do d' -oi'5)5 ($0 1)0 E" *er"o, di'"o,
&i%o2&i-o, o qe e*/ e" qe*4o . ' $oi=4o e!do ' q'% o >ei*o &'%'" ' $'r*ir do >/
di*o # e io . e+'*'"e!*e o qe o i!*erdi-ro %e $?e 3 di$oi=4o eLo %e i"$?e0
U"' i!*er$re*'=4o 5&'vor/ve%5 de*' $''e" !4o veri' !e%' $rob%e"' '%"0 M',
' "e ver, 3 -*' de d' re*ri=?e< ') !iver'%id'de deve i!i&i-'r e&ei*o de
!iver'%id'de $'r' "' -er*' @D, o $'r' " >ei*o e" ' re%'=4o -o" "' -er*' @D b)
!e" *odo o $r.#-o!*rdo e*4o 3 di$oi=4o, o, '%*er!'*iv'"e!*e, !e" *odo 4o
i"$o*o ' -'d' >ei*o, "' '$e!' 'qe%e qe e%e $odeLdeve dier0
Se &or 'i", o $r.#-o!*rdo !4o . d' orde" do i!*erdi-ro (!4o re%ev' de%e), '
!4o er !'qi%o qe . $or de"'i 2bvio, o e>', e" ' !e-e/ri' re%ev!-i'0 O .
re%ev'!*e '$e!' e e e!*e!der $or i!*erdi-ro o qe veio '!*e ("' e!*4o '%o &'%'
'!*e, "' !4o !e-e'ri'"e!*e '%re000)0 O $r.#-o!*rdo $'re-e er d' orde" de -'d'
@D o d'qe%' -o" ' q'i -'d' "' e*/ e" $oi=4o de &r'!-' '%i'!='0 Io . 'i!d' "'i
-%'ro q'!do $r.#-o!*rdo e 'r*i-%'" !' &or"' de di-ro *r'!vero, d'do qe *'!*o '
eqiv'%H!-i' q'!*o ' i"$%i-'=4o 2 e d4o # 2 &!-io!'" # !o i!*erior de @D de&i!id'
(-ie!*&i-' o ideo%2i-') i*o ., >'"'i e" "' @D '!*'o!i*'0 E" o*r' $'%'vr', o
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5*odo -o"$%e+o5 $?e 3 di$oi=4o " -o!>!*o de $r.#-o!*rdo, "', $'r' -'d'
>ei*o, o $'r' -'d' 5-o"!id'de5 de >ei*o (o, 'i!d', $'r' -'d' @D), 2 4o
e%e-io!/vei o $r.#-o!*rdo '-ei*/vei $'r' e' @D0 Die!do de o*ro "odo, 2 e*4o
di$o!vei, $'r' -'d' @D, o $r.#-o!*rdo ->o e!*ido . evide!*e $'r' e' @D0
Se>' o ei!*e e+e"$%o< $'r' " e!!-i'dor *-'!oLover!i*'L%iber'%, qe
dieLovi dr'!*e v/rio '!o qe o over!o @C &oi be" -edido, qe -o!ei
e*'bi%i'r ' e-o!o"i', qe or'!io "' b'e $'r%'"e!*'r 2%id', qe &oi ovido !o
e+*erior -o"o e*'di*' e*-0, ' e+$re4o o sucesso((( .do go/erno 0!1er/ $r' evidH!-i'0
M', $'r' " o$oi-io!i*' ($'r' " >ei*o do"i!'do $or o*r' @D), *r'*'#e de "'
eqGH!-i' !4o e!!-i/ve%0 O qe e%e 2 $oder/ $ro&erir $o!do#' 3 di*!-i' # "'r-'!do#'
de '%"' &or"' -o"o e!do do O*ro (pretenso sucesso,sucesso entre aspas, o "ue eles
chamam de sucessoe*-0)0 De &'*o, o qe 5$er*e!-e5 ' "' @D o . re*o"'do, '&ir"'do, o,'%*er!'*iv'"e!*e, de!e'do0 M' o qe $er*e!-e ' o*r' @D, "e"o &'e!do $'r*e do
i!*erdi-ro (o qe . 2bvio, d'd' ' de&i!i=4o), 2 $ode er re-'do, iro!i'do, $'rodi'do,
*or!'do i"%'-ro0
O qe e*o qere!do dier . qe !4o $'re-e '*i&'*2rio de&i!ir i!*erdi-ro -o"o
o *odo -o"$%e+o -o" do"i!'!*e, ' !4o er qe ' e+$re4o e>' *o"'d' re*ri*iv'"e!*e0
M', e &or ee o -'o, eri' "'i $rovei*oo, -o"o e" "' d' i!*erve!=?e de Cor*i!e
(19:, I!*rod=4o, !o*' F), -o!ider/#%o -o"o o e+*erior e$e-&i-o qe do"i!' "' @D #
e>' e*e e+*erior "' o*r' @D de*er"i!'d', o " -o!>!*o de%', -o" ' q'%, o -o" '
q'i, "' re%'=4o e$e-&i-' e re%ev'!*e e "'!*."0
O i!*erdi-ro, -o"o de&i!ido $or PH-e+, %e"br' be" ' !o=4o de !ivero de
di-ro, -o"o de&i!ido $or M'i!e!e' (ver 'b'i+o)0 Re-o!e-er ' e+i*H!-i' ., $or
" %'do, "' obri'=4o, d'do o q'dro (. "' %'$'%i'd')0 O -o!-ei*o *eori' o 5&'*o5 de
qe " di-ro !4o !'-e de " re*or!o 3 $r2$ri' -oi', "' de " *r'b'%o obre
o*ro di-ro (M'i!e!e'< 19:K
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O*ro '$e-*o d' *ee de PH-e+, e!do ' q'% . o i!*erdi-ro qe '>ei*' F,e
qe di$?e "'*eri'i $'r' "' @D, e" e$e-i&i-'=4o %*erior, $'re-e " eqvo-o0 E'
-o!-e$=4o . *'%ve o -orre%'*o d' !o=4o de 5ideo%oi' e" er'%5, de A%*er0 A de$ei*o
dee *r'=o de -oerH!-i', ' !o=4o -o!*i!' $'re-e!do, $e%o "e!o o$er'-io!'%"e!*e,
$rob%e"/*i-'0 Diri' qe . "'i 'deq'do $ro$or qe o qe '>ei*' # e ' *ee &or '-ei*' # .
"' -er*' @D0 O qe $ode &i-'r "'i -%'ro e" o*r' $''e! d' "e"' obr', -o"o
q'!do PH-e+ *r'*' de "' qe*4o e$e-&i-', ' d' 5&or"'#>ei*o !' '$ro$ri'=4o
b>e*iv' do -o!e-i"e!*o0005 (19K;ei*o5, qe o-orre q'!do 5o >ei*o d' e!!-i'=4o 5e vo%*'5 -o!*r' o >ei*o !iver'%$or "eio de "' 5*o"'d' de $oi=4o5 qe -o!i*e e" "' e$'r'=4o (di*'!-i'"e!*o,
d8vid', qe*io!'"e!*o, -o!*e*'=4o, revo%*'000) -o" re$ei*o 'o qe o 5>ei*o !iver'%5
%e 5d/ ' $e!'r50 Tr'*'r#e#i', $'r' PH-e+, de %*' -o!*r' ' evidH!-i' ideo%2i-', obre o
*erre!o de' evidH!-i', %*' '&e*'d' $e%' !e'=4o, e qe '$ree!*' *r'=o %i!G*i-o
(a"uilo "ue /oc chama-rie do $e*r2%eo,suas-iH!-i' o-i'i000)0 E" "', o "' >ei*o
e -o!*r'#ide!*i&i-' -o" ' @D qe %e . i"$o*' $e%o 5i!*erdi-ro5 -o"o de*er"i!'=4o
e+*erior de ' i!*eriorid'de b>e*iv'000;
Poo e*'r eqivo-'do, "' !4o "e -o!ve!-e ' id.i' de qe "' @D e>' i"$o*'
'o >ei*opelo interdiscurso, "e"o qe e' $'%'vr', !o *e+*o de PH-e+, ve!' e!*re
'$'0 E" o*ro *er"o, e $r2$rio e+e"$%o, "e"o brevi"o, i!di-'" qe e
*r'*' d' re-' de " di-ro $or $'r*e de " 5>ei*o d' e!!-i'=4o5, $o-o i"$or*'!do #
o i"$or*'!do "e!o # e . o -'o de " processode -o!*r'#ide!*i&i-'=4o (de " >ei*o
qe e 5rebe%'5 -o!*r' "' @D qe '*. e!*4o o do"i!'v') o de " $ro-eo "'i b'!'%, o
d' -o!&ro!*'=4o de " di-ro -o" o*ro di-ro # $or e+e"$%o, e" " deb'*e0 O e>',
F vee, di#e qe o qe '>ei*' o >ei*o . "' @D000A $ri"eir' e ' *er-eir' "od'%id'de !4o i!*ere'" 'qi dire*'"e!*e, !' "edid' e" qe ' qe*4o doi!*erdi-ro . "e!o $er*i!e!*e0;Seri' e+*re"'"e!*e i!*ere'!*e '!'%i'r o *er"o qe, !e*e *re-o de PH-e+ e*4o e!*re '$', $orqeee $ro-edi"e!*o de e-ri*r' $'re-e de"e!*ir o qe ve" e!do di*o0 O qe, ' "e ver, -'rre' /' $'r'"e "oi!o, !o -'o0@' &'%*' "' *eori' e "' '!/%ie do() $ro-eo() de '>ei*'"e!*o, '!/%o' 'o divero di$oi*ivo de
$rod=4o de b>e*ivid'de de-ri*o $or @o-'%*0
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*r'*'#e, e" q'%qer -'o, de ere" e!!-i'do, !' &or"' %i!G*i-' *$i-' do $r.#
-o!*rdo, e%e"e!*o qe $er*e!-e" !4o 'o i!*erdi-ro, e diri', "' ' di-ro
e$e-&i-o, e" re%'=4o 'o q'i, de '%"' &or"', o >ei*o e*/ e" &r'!-' o$oi=4o #
i!de$e!de!*e"e!*e, re$i*o, de *r'*'r#e de " -'o de rebe%di' o de "' o*r' $oi=4o >/
2%id'0 E . io qe ' "'r-' %i!G*i-' i!di-'"0
Vo%*'!do ' "' '&ir"'=4o '!*erior< -reio er "'i o$er'-io!'% ' -o!-e$=4o de
i!*erdi-ro -o"o e+*erior e$e-&i-o, e"bor' e%' *'%ve !4o re-br' *od' '
$oibi%id'de, e$e-i'%"e!*e ' qe die" re$ei*o 'o eqe-i"e!*o !8"ero 1K0
E!&i", $'re-e "'i 'deq'do $ro$or qe, $'r' -'d' @D, / " -o!>!*o de $r.#
-o!*rdo (di-ro *r'!vero:e*-0) !o i!*erdi-ro, 'o q'i " >ei*o $ode o
deve re-orrer0 M' e%e !4o $ode re-orrer ' *odo, -o"o deveri' er 2bvio0 Dier qe . o
i!*erdi-ro qe $rovH *'i "'*eri'i . i!2-o # ' !4o er *'%ve $'r' -o"b'*er Qe" er'%' *ee d' orii!'%id'de0 Aqi v'%e *'%ve "' '!'%oi' -o" ' !o=?e de i!*er*e+*'%id'de
i!*er!' (-o" ' "e"2ri' di-riv' de -'d' @D) e de i!*er*e+*'%id'de e+*er!' ('qi%o qe .
d' "e"2ri' di-riv' de o*r' @D -o" ' q'i ' re%'=?e de "' @D !4o 4o de
'!*'o!i"o)90
Em Courtine
'!do " e*dioo do di-ro e $?e ' '!'%i'r " -or$, *e!do i!-or$or'do
"' *eori' do i!*erdi-ro, o qe e%e &' A!'%i' " di-ro qe e -o!&ro!*' -o" o*ro
(e !4o -o" *odo o o*ro)0 O "e%or e+e"$%o, $'r' o qe 'qi i"$or*', *'%ve e>' o de
Cor*i!e (19:1, i*o ., Cor*i!e '!*e d' qed')0 O qe e%e reve%' *'%ve e dev' e" $'r*e
'o '-'o, o e>', 'o &'*o de qe '!'%i' " di-ro e$e-&i-o, o di-ro -o"!i*'
diriido 'o -ri*4o0 U"' d' -'r'-*er*i-' do *r'b'%o &oi reve%'r qe !4o e $ode (i*o .,
KO >ei*o !4o $ode e e!-o!*r'r !o e+*erior d' @D qe o do"i!' # o qe re"e*e 'o e+*erior qe de*er"i!' '@D e" qe*4o ($0 1KF)0:'!do, '$2 ' e%ei=4o, %' %'!=o o $ror'"' 5@o"e ero5, ri i"edi'*'"e!*e "' re'=4o !' &or"'do di-ro d' 5b'%i"e!*'=4o5, '"ido, !' o-'i4o, $or " e$e-i'%i*' !iveri*/rio, -o" ' $re*e!4o!e'r o di-ro d' &o"e0 O $reide!*e @0 0 C'rdoo, -o" o "e"o ob>e*ivo, "' -o" e *$i-o e*o*-'!o $eriorid'de (ver Miqe%e**i JJ), die qe o qe / . 5b!*ri=4o50 Or', *r'*'#e do "e"odi-ro, ->o o*ro . o di-ro d' &o"e, >/ qe 5b'%i"e!*'=4o5 "'!*." -o" 5b!*ri=4o5 "' re%'=4o de-'' e e&ei*o # "' d' "od'%id'de de di-ro *r'!vero09Ver M'i!e!e' (19:< :F#:)0
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!4o v'%e ' $e!') '!'%i'r -or$or' i!-r!i-o # o qe $rod e&ei*o !' !o=4o de
i!*erdi-ro0 P'r*i!do de " e!!-i'do -o"o
(1)2ossa pol%tica em relao aos cristos no tem absolutamente nada de uma t'tica
de circunst3ncia, # uma pol%tica de princ%pio
'i!'%' qe e%e $rov." de "' eqGH!-i' di-riv' qe re$o!de ' CP de*er"i!'d' (.
e+*r'd' de "' e!*revi*' do e!*4o Se-re*/rio Wer'% Ad>!*o do P0 C0 @0 'o >or!'% la
!roi)0Ai", $ode#e re%'-io!/#%o ' "su-eito enunciador, qe e!!-i' !"' situao
deenunciaode*er"i!'d'0
M' ee e!!-i'do e*'be%e-e %'=o -o" &or"%'=?e qe e $ode" de-obrir !o
$ro-eo di-rivo i!ere!*e 3 @D qe o do"i!', ' @D Q-o"!i*'0 O e>', e+i*ei'%"e!*e !"' rede interdiscursi/a45,o ver*i-'%, de &or"%'=?e *'i -o"o ()#(9)!0 de 19K)
(1;)a/er' uma ninhada cat7lica para depenarC ([0 ev'i,Europe1, 11 de >!0 de19K)
(1)E mesmo se Marchais ab-urasse sua f#, no seria um desses ardis"ue aconselha/a
precisamente *ninC (Se!-e*, lD)urore, 11 de >!o de 19K)
U"' &2r"%' -o"o (1K) $oderi' -o!de!'r de "'!eir' '$ro+i"'*iv' ee -o!>!*o
de e!!-i'doei*o &'%'!*e qe $rod "' eqGH!-i' di-riv' do"i!'d' $or "' @D de*er"i!'d', o
ob>e*o de qe ee >ei*o e!!-i'dor e '$ro$ri' $'r' &'er de%e ob>e*o de e di-ro11,
be" -o"o ' 'r*i-%'=?e e!*re ee ob>e*o, $e%o q'i o >ei*o e!!-i'dor v'i d'r "'
-oerH!-i' ' e $ro$2i*o5 ($0 F;)0
Or', $ode#e veri&i-'r -%'r'"e!*e qe ' &or"' de i!-or$or'=4o do $r.#-o!*rdo
!4o . ' "e"' e!do e *r'*e, e" -'d' -'o, do e%e"e!*o de " o de o*ro di-ro0
O e>', o *er"o -'r'-*er*i-o d' @D -o"!i*' 4o re*o"'do, o d' @D -ri*4 4o
$re-edido de !e'*iv'0 Do qe re%*', ' "e ver, '%o qe deveri' er -%'ro $'r' e*'*eori'< qe -'d' @D &or!e-e o e%e"e!*o ' ere" $or e%' re*o"'do, e qe ' o*r' @D
&or!e-e o e%e"e!*o ' ere" re-'do $e%' "e"' @D, o qe -o!&ir"'ri' o qe die
'-i"', ' $ro$2i*o do $ro-eo de -o!*r'#ide!*i&i-'=4o0 P're-e qe *'!*o PH-e+ q'!*o
Cor*i!e &or!e-e" &'*o (", ' **%o de e+e"$%o, o*ro, -o" b'e e" " -or$) qe
$?e" e" -eqe ' $r2$ri' *ee0
Em Maingueneau
Creio qe M'i!e!e' '$ree!*' "' !o=4o de i!*erdi-ro "e!o $o"$o', "'
"'i o$er'-io!'% e "'i $rod*iv'0 Se!do e%e, 5. !e-e/rio '&i!'r e*e *er"o "i*o v'o
$'r' !oo $ro$2i*o e b*i*i#%o $or "' *r'de< uni/erso discursi/o, campo discursi/o,
espao discursi/o5 ($0 K)1(
Por Q!ivero di-rivo, o '*or e!*e!de o -o!>!*o de &or"'=?e di-riv' de
*odo o *i$o qe i!*er'e" !"' -o!>!*r' d'd'0 E*e !ivero di-rivo re$ree!*'
!e-e'ri'"e!*e " -o!>!*o &i!i*o, "e"o qe !4o $o' er '$ree!dido e" '
%ob'%id'de0 \ de $o-' *i%id'de $'r' o '!'%i*' e de&i!e '$e!' "' e+*e!4o "/+i"', o
orio!*e ' $'r*ir do q'% er4o -o!*rdo do"!io -e$*vei de er e*d'do, o
11Aqi, ' $'%'vr' Qdi-ro $'re-e i!i&i-'r "' eqGH!-i' $rodid' e" de*er"i!'d' -ir-!*!-i', e !4o"' @D01A e+$oi=4o de -o!-ei*o qe e ee . 3 vee ' *r'!-ri=4o q'e %i*er'% de *re-o de M'i!e!e(19:< K#FJ)
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Q-'"$o di-rivo0 A !o=4o de !ivero di-rivo $ro$o*' $or M'i!e!e' re-obre,
. "'i o "e!o eqiv'%e!*e, 3 !o=4o de i!*erdi-ro de PH-e+0
Por 5-'"$o di-rivo5, M'i!e!e' e!*e!de " -o!>!*o de &or"'=?e
di-riv' qe e e!-o!*r'" e" -o!-orrH!-i', de%i"i*'"#e re-i$ro-'"e!*e e" "'
rei4o de*er"i!'d' do !ivero di-rivo, e>' e" -o!&ro!*o 'ber*o, e" '%i'!=', !' &or"'
de !e*r'%id'de '$'re!*e e*-000 e!*re di-ro qe $oe" ' "e"' &!=4o o-i'% e
divere" obre o "odo $e%o q'% e%' deve er $ree!-id'0 Pode *r'*'r#e do -'"$o $o%*i-o,
&i%o2&i-o, dr'"'*8ri-o, r'"'*i-'% e*-000 Ee re-or*e e" Q-'"$o !4o de&i!e o!'
i!%'re . '$e!' "' 'b*r'=4o !e-e/ri', qe deve $er"i*ir 'brir "8%*i$%' rede de
*ro-'0 N4o e *r'*' de de%i"i*'=?e evide!*e0
P'r' o '*or, . !o i!*erior do -'"$o di-rivo qe e -o!*i*i " di-ro, e '
i$2*ee . qe *'% -o!*i*i=4o $ode dei+'r#e de-rever e" *er"o de o$er'=?e re%'reobre &or"'=?e di-riv' >/ e+i*e!*e0 O qe !4o i!i&i-', e!*re*'!*o, qe o di-ro
e -o!*i*'" *odo d' "e"' &or"' e" todoso di-ro dee -'"$o !e" . $ove%
de*er"i!'r a priori' "od'%id'de d' re%'=?e e!*re ' diver' &or"'=?e di-riv' de
" -'"$o0
@i!'%"e!*e, M'i!e!e' $ro$?e io%'r espaos discursi/os, i*o ., b-o!>!*o de
&or"'=?e di-riv' ->' re%'=4o o '!'%i*' >%' $er*i!e!*e $'r' e $ro$2i*o0 T'i
re*ri=?e deve" re%*'r '$e!' de i$2*ee &!d'd' obre " -o!e-i"e!*o do *e+*o e
" 'ber i*2ri-o, qe er4o e" eid' -o!&ir"'do o i!&ir"'do q'!do ' $eqi'
$roredir0
A-re-e!*' qe re-o!e-er e*e *i$o de $ri"'do do i!*erdi-ro . i!-i*'r ' -o!*rir
um sistema no "ual a definio da rede sem3ntica "ue circunscre/e a especificidade de um
discurso coincide com a definio das rela&es desse discurso com seu Outro( No !ve% d'
-o!di=?e de $oibi%id'de 'veri', $oi, '$e!' " e$'=o de *ro-' e >'"'i de ide!*id'de
&e-'d'0 Ee $o!*o de vi*' v'i de e!-o!*ro 'o qe 'do*'" e$o!*'!e'"e!*e o
e!!-i'dore di-rivo ee, %o!e de 'd"i*ir ee de-e!*r'"e!*o r'di-'%, reivi!di-'",
de &'*o, ' '*o!o"i' de e di-ro0
E' -o%o-'=4o e" -'' de "' -o!-e$=4o $ri"/ri' do Q&e-'"e!*o e*r*r'%
i!-reve#e !o $ro%o!'"e!*o de "' -orre!*e d' '!/%ie do di-ro qe b-' re$e!'r '
re%'=?e do Me"o e do O*ro *'i -o"o e dee!'v'" !o '!o J0 O $ro-edi"e!*o
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*i%i'do !e' .$o-' vi'v'" ' reve%'r ' ide!*id'de ' i de -'d' &or"'=4o di-riv',
r'=' 3 -o!*r=4o de !8-%eo de i!v'ri!-i' e" *or!o de '%! $o!*o $rivi%ei'do do
di-ro0 Nee q'dro, ' re%'=4o -o" ' o*r' &or"'=?e di-riv' 2 $odi' er $e!'d'
e!do o "odo e$o!*!eo d' >*'$oi=4o de !id'de e+*eriore "' 3 o*r'0 O
i!*erdi-ro '$'re-i' -o"o " -o!>!*o de re%'=?e e!*re divero Qi!*r'di-ro
-o"$'-*o0 O qe e *r'*' de bver*er . e' eqiv'%H!-i' e!*re e+*erior do di-ro e
i!*erdi-ro, $'r' $e!'r ' $ree!=' do i!*erdi-ro !o $r2$rio -or'=4o do i!*r'di-ro, o
qe Z0#Z0 Cor*i!e -'"' ' Qinconsistnciade "' &or"'=4o di-riv', e!*e!did' -o"o
e&ei*o do i!*erdi-ro e!q'!*o e+*erior e$e-&i-o de "' &or"'=4o di-riv' !o $r2$rio
i!*erior de%'0
Ai", o O*ro !4o deve er $e!'do -o"o "' e$.-ie de Qe!ve%o$e do di-ro
!e" " -o!>!*o de -i*'=?e0 No e$'=o di-rivo, o O*ro !4o . !e" " &r'"e!*o%o-'%i/ve%, "' -i*'=4o, !e" "' e!*id'de e+*erior !e" . !e-e/rio qe e>' %o-'%i/ve%
$or '%"' r$*r' vive% d' -o"$'-id'de do di-ro0 E%e e e!-o!*r' !' r'i de "
Me"o e"$re >/ de-e!*r'do e" re%'=4o ' i $r2$rio, qe !4o . e" "o"e!*o '%"
$'ve% de er -o!ider'do ob ' &ir' de "' $%e!i*de '*!o"'0 O O*ro . o qe &'
i*e"'*i-'"e!*e &'%*' ' " di-ro, . 'qe%' $'r*e de e!*ido qe &oi !e-e/rio qe o
di-ro '-ri&i-'e $'r' -o!*i*ir ' ide!*id'de0
Dio de-orre o car'ter essencialmente dial7gico de todo enunciado do discurso, '
i"$oibi%id'de de dio-i'r ' i!*er'=4o do di-ro do &!-io!'"e!*o i!*r'di-rivo0
E' i!*ri-'=4o do Me"o e do O*ro rob' 3 -oerH!-i' e"!*i-' d' &or"'=?e
di-riv' *odo o -'r/*er de QeH!-i', ->' i!-ri=4o !' i*2ri' eri' 'e2ri' !4o .
de%' "e"' qe ' &or"'=4o di-riv' *ir' o $ri!-$io de ' !id'de, "' de " -o!&%i*o
rer'do0
O simulacro, um tipo especial
/ -o!*r=?e ->o e&ei*o . idH!*i-o 'o do $r.#-o!*rdo, e qe, !o e!*'!*o, !4o e
e!-o!*r'" !o i!*erdi-ro0 O e>', !4o $er*e!-e", ' rior, ' di-ro !e!"0 A 8!i-'
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e+$%i-'=4o $'r' e '$'re-i"e!*o . " do e&ei*o d' re%'=4o de $o%H"i-', o i"%'-ro 1F0
Do e+e"$%o0
') e+$re?e -o"o 5o %oi-i"o5, 5o &or"'%i"o5, 5' *e!dH!-i' %oi-i*'#
&or"'%i*'5, 5o bio%oi"o5, -orre!*e e" di-ro -ie!*&i-o (o de 'ber) qe
$rivi%ei'" o o-i'% o o i*2ri-o, -o!*r' o $rivi%.io do bio%2i-o e do &or"'% (qe !e"
e"$re '!d'" >!*o)0 Tr'*'#e -%'r'"e!*e de i"%'-ro do $ro>e*o qe e $re*e!de"
&or"'i, o e>', d' -orre!*e qe 'do*'" "e*'%i!'e! &or"'i, qe re$ree!*'" e"
o*r' %i!'e! o() e!*ido() d' e+$re?e, qe $o*%'" " -er*o '$'r'*o bio%2i-o
(eve!*'%"e!*e i!'*o)0 O*ro e+e"$%o do "e"o *i$o 4o Qdevio *eori-i*',
Q$i-o%oi"o, Qe-o!o"i-i"o0
Ee 5$r.#-o!*rdo5 *e" "' orie" be" e$e-&i-'0 N4o 4o *o"'do do
i!*erdi-ro, !o e!*ido de PH-e+ e de Cor*i!e0 Deriv'" -%'r'"e!*e de "' re%'=4o de
e"b'*e e!*re @D, o e>', !4o 4o -' ditos d' "e"' !'*re' do $ro$o*o -o"o
e+e"$%o $'r'di"/*i-o (' -rie do $e*r2%eo, o *errori"o e*-0)0 Deriv'" "'i -%'r'"e!*e
do i!*erdi-ro !o e!*ido "'i re*ri*o de e$'=o di-rivo, o e>', 4o
-o!*i**iv'"e!*e i!*erdi-rivo, o qe qer dier qe 2 vH" 3 e+i*H!-i' -o"o e&ei*o d'
$o%H"i-'0
O*ro e+e"$%o, !o "e"o -'"$o0 No di-ro d' WWT !4o e e!-o!*r' >'"'i '
'&ir"'=4o de qe 5%' %'!e !e $e* $' *o%.rer %e &%o o dire de+ -oe 3 %' &oi5 (W'de*
e PH-e+,19:1
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'$e!' de-ri=?e (bo' o ri!) d'qi%o qe, $oder#e#i' dier, . o $r2$rio d' %!', e
qe o '!'%i*' do di-ro '*. -e' ' 5'r5, -o"o o &e Cor*i!e -o" ' de-ri=4o d'
e*r*r' i!*/*i-' -%iv'd' &ei*' $or M'ri-e Wro0
b) O di-ro "or*i-o, !o*'d'"e!*e o d' $i'd', &or!e-e, '%vo e!'!o, "
e+e"$%o re%ev'!*e $'r' e' "e"' *ee0 U'%"e!*e, $i'd' $?e" e" re%'=4o doi
di-ro (doi "!do, e!do @red, doiscripts, e!do R']i! e*-0)0 Ao -o!*r/rio do
qe '%! "ori*' o*'ri'" de $e!'r, o di-ro $o*o e" re%'=4o ( in praesentia
o in absentia) 4o $r.vio 3 $i'd' # o qe &or!e-eri' "!i=4o $'r' ' *ee do *i$o 5*do >/
&oi di*o5 e, '%*er!'*iv'"e!*e, $'r' *ee de qe 2 !o re*' o e*i%o 10 Por e+e"$%o, 'o bo"
di-ro obre e-o%', o -''"e!*o, o ire>', o$?e#e o "' di-ro obre ' "e"'
i!*i*i=?e # '"bo -orre!*e e 2%ido, evide!*e"e!*e, e"bor' -o" e$'=o de -ir-%'=4odi&ere!*e0
M' / " *i$o de $i'd', qe e *or!o re%'*iv'"e!*e $o$%'r, !o 8%*i"o *e"$o,
qe 5-ri'5 " di-ro, !4o o re*o"'0 Re&iro#"e 3 -'"'d' $i'd' de '8-o0 E%'
o$?e" 'o e*ere2*i$o do '8-o machoo do '8-o /eado0 Or', e*e 8%*i"o di-ro .
!ovo, !o e!*ido de qe e%e !4o *e" 5-or$o5 e" o*ro %'r qe !4o e>' o di-ro
"or*i-o0 A "e ver, e*' $i'd' -o!*roe" # ' r'?e i*2ri-' e*4o $or er
i!ve*i'd' # " di-ro 5!ovo5, !4o o re*o"'" de o*r' e di&ere!*e &o!*e ($e%o
"e!o, !4o $8b%i-', %i*er/ri', &o%-%2ri-' e*-0)0 Pe!o qe "' &or"' de -o"$ree!der o
qe e $'' . ' i$2*ee de qe e *r'*' do i"%'-ro do "'-o0 O e>', ' $i'd' *r'b'%'
-o!*r' (i' dier 5obre5000) o di-ro do "'-o, e &' de%e "' i!*er$re*'=4o qe i!-ide
obre o *r'=o "'i !e'*ivo d' "'-e'< !4o ' $o-' v'%e!*i', $or e+e"$%o, "' ' i!ver4o
de $'$.i o $re&erH!-i' e+'i0
-) O *er-eiro e+e"$%o, *o"o#o e"$re*'do de @iori! (199)0 Se!do e%e, o di-ro
"i%i*'r %i'do 'o o%$e de , $'r' deq'%i&i-'r o di-ro de o$oi=4o, !4o -o"b'*e e
e!*ido 5orii!'%5, "' e i"%'-ro0 Ci*' *re-o de " $ro!!-i'"e!*o de C'*e%o
Br'!-o, !o q'% '$'re-e" eqGH!-i' -o"o 5o qe '%"e>'" i"$%'!*'r o *o*'%i*'ri"o de
eqerd'5 e 5e+$%or'" o !'-io!'%i"o $'r' $ro*eer ' i!e&i-iH!-i'5 !o %'r,
15V'"o 'o 8%*i"o *r'=o d' e+$eriH!-i' de @%'ber*, o!de ' b-' do -o"o &'er e red 'o &'er -o"o5(S-!eider 19:;
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re$e-*iv'"e!*e, de 5&or=' $o$%'re de v'!'rd'5 e de 5"e"bro d' brei' !'-io!'%
$rorei*'50
d) N' v.$er' d' '$ree!*'=4o de*e *r'b'%o, e" ' -o!&erH!-i' de 'ber*r' do ; o0
CESU, Zo. i @iori! $rodi " e+-e%e!*e e+e"$%o, 'i!d' "'i -o"$%e+o do qe
o qe '$ree!*ei0 I!*rodi!do ' !o=4o de e*o, die, !" -er*o "o"e!*o< 5M' io !4o
. $i-o%oi"o00050 De o!de re e*' $'%'vr', 5$i-o%oi"o5 U"' i$2*ee . qe @iori!
'!*e-i$' o qe e $oder/ dier de e di-ro, ' $'r*ir de "' -er*' @D # $o!'"o qe
e>' ' AD< 5"' io qe vo-H di . $i-o%oi"o50 e e -%'i&iqe " -er*o di-ro
-o"o $i-o%oi"o e e+$%i-' $e%' re>ei=4o, $or $'r*e d' AD, de &!d'"e!*o $i-o%2i-o
$'r' ' e+$%i-'=4o de &'*o di-rivo0 O i"%'-ro de 5$i-o%oi'5 . 5$i-o%oi"o50 O
qe @iori! &e &oi !e'r '!*e-i$'d'"e!*e o qe $oderi' vir ' er di*o ' $ro$2i*o do qe e%ee!!-i'v'0 O e+e"$%o . i!*ere'!*e $orqe, d' $oi=4o de qe &'%'v' @iori!, e%e $ode
!e'r '!*e-i$'d'"e!*e o qe diri' de e di-ro " o*ro qe e*ivee e" o*r' $oi=4o,
e!do qe o e!!-i'do !e'do '!*e-i$'d'"e!*e . " i"%'-ro do qe @iori! e*/ die!do0
Co!-%i!do, diri' qe, $rov've%"e!*e, "' *e!*'*iv' de -o"$'r'=4o e!*re '
ver?e de PH-e+ e de M'i!e!e' eb'rr'ri' !"' e$.-ie de 5i!-o"e!r'bi%id'de5 #
qe *'%ve $rod' i"%'-ro de '"b'0 N4o ei e v'%eri' ' $e!' 'r"'r " $'!de"!io
$or -'' de ' di&ere!='0 A H!&'e diver' 4o !o*2ri'0 PH-e+ e i!-reve !'
ver*e!*e '%*eri'!' # e $rov've%"e!*e o '>ei*'"e!*o 'o i!*erdi-ro . "'
5'$%i-'=4o5 d' !o=4o de ideo%oi' e" er'% e o '>ei*'"e!*o ' "' @D, "' '$%i-'=4o d'
!o=4o de ideo%oi' $'r*i-%'re0 M'i!e!e' &i%i'#e de -er*' &or"' ' @o-'%*, e"bor',
'o -o!*r/rio de%e, $rivi%eie ' 5$er&-ie5 e ' %i!G*i-' e>' de $re&erH!-i' "'
e"!*i-' di-riv'0
O qe $re*e!di "o*r'r &oi ' !e-eid'de de e$e-i&i-'r "e%or ' !'*re' de
de*er"i!'do e%e"e!*o $ree!*e e" -er*o di-ro, e$e-i'%"e!*e !' "edid' e" qe e%e
*H" ' ver -o" i!*erdi-ro0 P're-e#"e, -o"o die, qe o $r.#-o!*rdo, e deriv'"
dire*'"e!*e de "' @D (e !4o do i!*erdi-ro), $ode" er re*o"'do0 M' q'!do
$rovH" do i!*erdi-ro, 4o !e'do, re-'do, o 5$o*o 3 di*!-i'5, e+'*'"e!*e
$orqe !4o e '$ree!*'" -o"o evide!*e # -o"o deveri' er " $r.#-o!*rdo0
A%*er!'*iv'"e!*e, 4o -o!*rdo $or " $ro-eo $e-%i'r, ' $'r*ir d' e"!*i-' de "
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di-ro e$e-&i-o, qe, e*'!do e" re%'=4o de '%*erid'de ($o%H"i-') -o" o*ro, -o!*r2i
de%e -er*o i"%'-ro0 Ne*e -'o, *r'*'#e *'%ve de $r.#-o!*rdo qe &!-io!'" -o"o
$edo#evidH!-i', !' "edid' e" qe -er*' &or"%'=?e !4o e e!-o!*r'", -o"o *'i, e"
!e!" di-ro, 'o -o!*r/rio d' !e'd' o re-'d'0 I*o ., !4o 4o re*o"'d', !4o
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