Selection, Design and Installation of Flue Systems Quinta

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QUINTA RANGE OUTPUTSQ30: 5.6 - 28 kWQ45: 7 - 40 kWQ65: 11 - 61 kWQ85: 14.4 - 84.2 kWQ115: 18 - 115 kW

SEDBUK ‘A’ (Q30, Q45, Q65)

Selection, Design and Installation of Flue Systems

Quinta RangeCondensing Boilers

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Quinta Series flue options The Quinta series of boilers have fan assisted flues and are supplied as standard with a “concentric” flue outlet/air inlet which is used for room sealed operation or for open flue (room ventilated) applications. An optional twin pipe fitting is available for the room sealed “CLV” system The concentric system can be supplied for individual boilers for horizontal or vertical installation and because of the excess fan capacity of the boiler most flue lengths can be accommodated (depending on boiler model and actual route taken) which enables the installer to position the boiler almost anywhere in the building. Open flue or room ventilated systems can be installed as individual or combined flues and should discharge vertically with the flue terminating in a optional tapered cone but c/w bird guard. Care should be taken when siting the actual discharge point as a vapour plume will be visible when the boiler is operating (max flue gas exit temperature will be less than 75°C) and it is possi-ble for water to drip to the ground from the terminal on horizontal installations which could turn to ice in freezing conditions.

Ventilation requirements Compartment Ventilation for Room Sealed Installations Combustion air is not require for the boiler on room sealed installations, however ventilation should befitted in accordance with the latest relevent British StandardsNOTE: Other heat emitting equipment (pipework, pumps etc) may also be in the compartment and must be taken into consideration when deciding on overall ventilation requirements Recommendations Refer to latest relevent British Standards (Ref BS 5440 - 2 : Specification for installation and maintenance of ventilation

for gas appliances not exceeding 70kW) (1st, 2nd and 3rd family gases)(Ref BS 5440 - 1 : Specification for installation of gas appliances to chimneys and for

maintenance of chimneys not exceeding 70kW) (1st, 2nd and 3rd family gases)

(Ref BS 6644 : Specifcation for installation of gas-fired hot water boilers of rated inputs between 70kW to 1.8 kW)(net)( 2nd and 3rd family gases)(Ref IGE/UP/10) Installation of flued gas appliances in industrial and commercial premises.

It is the responsibilty of the installer to install the flue to comply with the current regulations and standards. Note: New type Retro fit plume kits for all the Quinta range are not available at the

time of print For information regarding plume kits please contact our technical department

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FLUE GAS

AIR IN

The Quinta Series boilers are supplied as standard with a Concentric Flue outlet / Air inlet connection which can be used for : 1. Room sealed operation using the concentric flue system (Flue within air duct)2. Conventional/Open flue operation using single skin flue system connected to the

inner concentric connection with the air supply taken from the boiler house via the outer concentric connection

FLUE GAS

AIR IN

This shows the optional Twin pipe Flue outlet / Air inlet connection and is used for Room sealed operation using the CLV flue system (air inlet and flue gas discharge from two pressure zones) Using single skin, water and gas tight flue system with single skin air tight air inlet system

Quinta Series Flue outlet / Air inlet details

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HRS Room sealed terminal (80/125)

150-500

50mm insertion lengthinto mating socket

610745

BS RAL Colour 9016 / 7021

125 o/d

4 x 5mm holes204 Sq

240Sq.

95145

90° Boiler short bend (80/125)

80 o/d

110

QBF0002

Detail of the Horizontal 80/125 Concentric Flue Kit Option A (Part No KT 026)

Quinta 30 and 45 - Room Sealed, 80/125 Horizontal Concentric Flue Kit Option A (For use when the boiler/s are mounted on and flued through a rear outside wall) Typical single boiler installation - can also be used for multiple boilers but each must have its own flue system at a min 550mm centres and never immediately above anotherFor two boilers only it is also possible to install the terminal wall plates almost touching each other

240Sq.

4 x 5mm Holes204 Sq

Centre line of Terminal 130mm

Clearance hole forTerminal through wall 130mmNote:140mm diameter recess 15mm deep required from the face of the inside wall face to allow clearance for the bend

Cut Terminal on site to suit wall thicknessMax 500mmMin 150mm

Wall closure plate must be fitted to terminal before passing through hole in wall to ensure correct positioning

QBF0001

Kit Parts—KT 026 1 x Bend—MG87836 1 x Terminal—MG87980 2 x Wall plates—MG28926

5

240Sq.

QBF0006

158

80 o/d

208

50

188

90 Bend (80/125) HRS Room sealed terminal (80/125)

150-500


610745


125 o/d

4 x 5mm holes204 Sq

Detail of the 80/125 Horizontal Concentric Flue Kit Option C (Part No KT 027)

Quinta 30 and 45 - Room Sealed, 80/125 Horizontal Concentric Flue Kit Option C (For use when the flue is discharged through a side wall left or right) Typical single boiler installation - can also be used for multiple boilers but each must have its own flue system and installed a Min of 550mm. centres horizontally and never immediately above another. For two boilers only it is also possible to install the termi-nal wall plates almost touching each other.

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188 240Sq.

4 x 5mm Holes204 Sq

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QBF0005

Kit Parts—KT 027 1 x Bend—MG87843 1 x Terminal—MG87980 2 x Wall plates—MG28926

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Quinta 30 and 45 - Room Sealed, 80/125 Vertical Concentric Flue Kit Option D (For use when the flue is discharged vertically through the roof) Typical single boiler installation - can also be used for multiple boilers, but each must have its own flue system and terminals separated a Min of 300mm if at the same height.Refer to the revelant British Standard if this is not the case.

QBF0008

VRS Room sealed terminal 80/125

140 o/d

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Can be cut down on site to a min. of 150mmRetain 20mm differencebetween inner and outer

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125 o/d

80 o/d

20

600 X 500

Cut down to suit dia. of Terminal in use

80

Detail of the Vertical 80/125 Concentric Flue Kit Option D (Part No KT031)

Kit Parts—KT 031 1 x Vertical Terminal—MG87973 1 x Universal Roof seal Pack— VE001

Q30 =150mmQ45 =100mm

Weathering Slate Suitable for flat or pitched roof (60 )

QBF0007

Q30/45 - 495mm

Additional components required to suit site details (within boiler constraints)

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Quinta 30 and 45 - 80/125 Room Sealed Calculation data to determine max flue runs

Quinta 30 80/125

Quinta 45 80/125

Maximum overall flue run Metres 22 16

Equivalent length for each 45° Bend

Metres 1 1


Metres 2 2

80 o/d

125 o/d

'L'

50

80 o/d

124 o/d

110

145

95

80 o/d

125 i/d

80 o/d 50

208

188

80 o/d 50

131

111

90 BendPart No MG87843


90 Boiler short bendPart No MG87836

Cuttable lengthPart No MG87818

Standard length (cannot be cut)'L' = 1000mm Part No MG87812'L' = 500mm Part No MG87811'L' = 250mm Part No MG87810

60 crs

210

126 i/d

Wall bracketPart No MG87863

115

Clamp band (one suppliedwith each component)Part No MG87654

136 offset

158

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Internal Seal (80mm)Part No MG87181

QBF0009

80/125 Concentric flue system Components for Room Sealed Operation

(calculation data based on flue products supplied by Remeha)

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Quinta 30 and 45 - Room Sealed, 100mm Two zone CLV Flue Kit Option E (For use when the air inlet is drawn from low level and flue outlet discharged vertically in a different pressure zone). Typical single boiler installation - can also be used for multiple boilers, but each must have its own flue system.Please ensure that the overall route does not exceed the Max values

Fall to boiler T<36m

Air inletFall from boiler

100 / 80 Reducers to adaptboiler to suit 100mm system

if required.

100mm Aluminium single wall flue and air inlet systemMax length see boiler technical booklet

Flue outlet

Quinta 30/45 two pipe adaptor plate isrequired to replace standard concentric fitting

QBF0010

QBF0011 80

Two pipe adaptor plate

100-80 Reducer x2Air inlet Guard

Flue terminal c/w bird guard

Only parts named are in the kitadditional 100mm single wall pipe and bends, shown dotted will be needed to suit site requirements(overall length to be within boiler constraints)

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Detail of the 100mm Two Zone CLV Flue Kit Option E (Part No KT032)

Kit Parts—KT 032 1 x Flue connection—S54750 2 x Flue adaptor 80/100— MG87127 1 x Flue terminal—PU001 1 x Air inlet—PU002

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Quinta 30 and 45 - Two zone 100mm Room Sealed Calculation data to determine max flue runs

Quinta 30100mm

Quinta 45 100mm



Metres 1.4 1.4


Metres 4.9 4.9

NOTE: Table shows max length of combined air in and flue out — Greater distances can be achieved by using larger diameter flue and air inlet - please refer to Broag-Remehafor further details.

100mm single wall aluminium flue system Components

'L'

101 i/d

100 o/d

Standard length'L'= 1000mm Part No. MG87062'L'= 500mm Part No. MG87061'L'= 250mm Part No. MG86060

105

105

90 BendPart No. MG87113


76

76

125

101 i/d

80 o/d

Reducer 80 spigot to 100 socketPart No. MG87127Must be used on the Q30/45 flue connection to adapt to 100mm system

Silicon seal ringPart No. MG87186

50

Mountng BracketPart No. MG87193

8mm x 45mmScrew thread

25-55 mm

Note:2 x 45 bends will off set to 71mm centres

101 i/d

95

30

20

Flue terminal c/w bird guard Part No. PU001

Air Inlet guardPart No. PU002

QBF0012

10

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200

60

101 i/d

Top


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Quinta 30 and 45 - 100mm Conventional or Open Flue Systems Typical single boiler installation - can also be used for multiple boilers with each boiler having its own flue system. Please ensure that the overall route does not exceed the Max values in table on page 11.

Fall to boiler

100 / 80 Reducer to adaptboiler to suit 100mm system

100mm Aluminium single wall flue system.

Flue outlet

QBF0013

Air from plant room

QBF0014

600mm X 500mm

Cut down to suit dia. of flue.

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Detail of Standard weathering plate for 100 to 150 flue (Part No VE001) flat or pitch roofs up to 60

T<Max 36m

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Quinta 30 and 45 - 100mm Conventional or Open Flue Systems

Quinta 30 100mm

Quinta 45 100mm



Metres 1.2 1.2


Metres 4 4

NOTE: Table shows max length of flue (using 100mm)— Greater distances can be achieved by using larger diameter flue - please refer to Broag for further details.


'L'

101 i/d

100 o/d


105

105



76

76

125

101 i/d

80 o/d



50



25-55 mm


101 i/d

95

30

20Flue terminal c/w bird guard Part No. PU001


QBF0012

10

10

200

60

101 i/d

Top

(As the Boiler is fan assisted it makes no difference if the run is horizontal or vertical but should terminate vertically as shown on page 10)(calculation data based on flue products supplied by Remeha)

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QBF0015

DH

80 mm Boiler connections

Tapered conec/w bird guard

Quinta 30 and 45 - Multi boiler Installation on a combined header (For Conventional or Open Flue Systems). Typical multi boiler installation with the flue combined into a single header and riser.

Quinta 30/45 Multi boiler Installation connected to a common header and riser in

Total 2 to 4 5 to 8 9 to 12 13 to 16 17 to 20

kW “D” Header and Riser diameter in mm

56 2 x Q30 115 110 110 115 115

84 3 x Q30 160 150 145 145 145

112 4 x Q30 185 175 170 170 170

80 2 x Q45 130 125 125 130 130

120 3 x Q45 180 170 165 165 165

160 4 x Q45 220 205 195 195 195

“ H” Height of riser in Metres

NOTE: Using 90° boiler connections into the header may result in larger headers and risers being required Other multi boiler flue combinations for the Quinta 30/45 may be available to suit different site conditions — for further information please consult your Area Sales Manager — contact details can be found on our web site www.uk.remeha.com

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Quinta 30 and 45 - Multi or Single boiler Installation on a Flue Dilution system NOTE: Broag-Remeha is unable to offer a flue dilution system and recommends that theinstaller contacts a flue specialist to design and manufacture the system in accordancewith the requirements of the British Standards and to comply with the guidelines

30

D

Bellmouth2 x D + 50

Opening in duct 2 x D

Typical Duct entry DetailQBF0016-A

Drain

QBF0016


Typical multi boiler installation for a flue dilution flue system showing the flue break nec-essary for all pre-mix boilers to prevent the dilution fan affecting the gas/air ratio control system in the boiler.

illustrated below.

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Detail of the 100/150 Horizontal Concentric Flue Kit Option A (Part No KT 206)

4 x 5mm holes204 Sq

150-500

800600

HRS Room sealed terminal 100/150


Boiler Short bend100/150

QBF0018

115

100 o/d

150

100

240Sq.


150 o/d

Quinta 65, 85 and 115 - Room Sealed, 100/150 Horizontal Concentric Flue Kit Option A (For use when the boiler/s are mounted on and flued through the outside wall). Typical single boiler installation - can also be used for multiple boilers but each must have its own flue system. At a min 550mm centres and never immediately above another. Wall closure plate must be fitted

to terminal before passing through hole in wall to ensure correct positioning

QBF0017

Centre line of Terminal 135mm

Clearance hole forTerminal through wall 155mmNote:170mm diameter recess 20mm deep required from the face of the inside wall face to allow clearance for the bend

4 x 5mm Holes204 Sq

240Sq.

Cut Terminal on site to suit wall thicknessMax 500mmMin 150mm

Kit Parts—KT 206 1 x Bend— MG87631 1 x Terminal—MG87990

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Quinta 65, 85 and 115 - Room Sealed, 100/150 Horizontal Concentric Flue Kit Option C (For use when the flue is discharged through a side wall left or right). Typical single boiler installation - can also be used for multiple boilers but each must have its own flue system and installed a Min of 550mm. centres horizontally and never immediately above another. For two boilers only it is also possible to install the termi-nals almost touching each other. Please ensure that the overall route does not exceed the maximum values given in the table on page 17.

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Clearance hole forTerminal through wall 155mm

208 240Sq.

4 x 5mm Holes204 Sq

Max 500mm


QBF0021

Detail of the 100/050 Horizontal Concentric Flue Kit Option C (Part No KT)

240Sq.

BS RAL Colour 9016

150 o/d

4 x 5mm holes204 Sq

150-500

800600

HRS Room sealed terminal 100/150


QBF0022

90 Bend 100/150

228

50100 o/d

208

Kit Parts—KT 034 1 x Bend— MG87890 1 x Terminal—MG87990

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Quinta 65, 85 and 115 - Room Sealed, 100/150 Vertical Concentric Flue Kit Option D (For use when the flue is discharged vertically through the roof). Typical single boiler installation - can also be used for multiple boilers but each must have its own flue system and separated a Min of 300mm if at the same height. Refer to the revelant British Standard if this is not the case.

QBF0023

Can be cut down on site to a min. of 150mmRetain 20mm differencebetween inner and outer

600 X 500

Cut down to suit dia. of Terminal in use

80 a

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VRS Room sealed terminal 100/150

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170 o/d

150 o/d

100 o/d

20

615

119515

50

Detail of the Vertical 100/150 CConcentric Flue Kit Option D (Part No KT038)

Kit Parts—KT 038 1 x Vertical Terminal—MG87969 1 x Universal Roof Seal Pack—VE001

Q65/85/115 = 100mm

Weathering Slate Suitable for flat or pitched roof

QBF0007

Q65/85/115 - 615mm

Additional components required to suit site details (within boiler constraints)

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Quinta 65, 85 and 115 - 100/150 Room Sealed Calculation data to determine max flue runs

Quinta 65 100/150

Quinta 85 100/150



Metres 1 1


Metres 2 2

Quinta 115 100/150

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1

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100/150 Concentric flue system Components for Room Sealed Operation

100 o/d

150 o/d

'L'

50

100 o/d

500

100 o/d 50

228

208

100 o/d 50

147

128



Cuttable lengthPart No MG87886

Standard length 'L' = 1000mm Part No MG87883'L' = 500mm Part No MG87882'L' = 250mm Part No MG87881

60 crs

210

151 i/d

Wall bracketPart No MG87915

115

Clamp band (one suppliedwith each component)Part No MG87656

Silicon seal ring(flue side)Part No MG87186

148.5 o/d

150 Offset

QBF0024

115

150 i/d

100 o/d

90 Boiler short bendPart No MG87631(clamp band not required)

150

100


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Quinta 65, 85 and 115 - Room Sealed, 100mm Two zone CLV Flue Kit Option E (For use when the air inlet is drawn from low level and flue outlet discharged vertically in a different pressure zone). Typical single boiler installation - can also be used for multiple boilers, but each must have its own flue system. Please ensure that the overall route does not exceed the Max values in table on page 19.

Fall to boiler

Air inletFall from boiler

100mm Aluminium single wall flue and air inlet systemMax length see boiler technical booklet

Flue outlet

QBF0026

QBF0027

100 Air inlet Guard

Flue terminal c/w bird guard

Only parts named are in the kitadditional 100mm single wall pipe and bends, shown dotted will be needed to suit site requirements(overall length to be within boiler constraints)

100

Two pipe adaptor plate

Detail of the 100mm Two Zone CLV Flue Kit Option E (Part No KT030)

Kit Parts—KT 030 1 x Flue connection—S54763 1 x Flue terminal—PU001 1 x Air inlet—PU002

T< 36m

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Quinta 65, 85 and 115 - Two zone 100mm—125mm Room Sealed Calculation data to determine max flue runs

Quinta 65 Quinta 115

100mm 100mm 110mm 110mm 125mm

Maximum overall flue run Metres 8 4 32 24 58


Metres 1.4 1.4 0.9 0.9 1


Metres 4.9 4.9 1.5 1.5 1.7

Quinta 85

NOTE: Table shows max length of combined air in and flue out — Greater distances can be achieved by using larger diameter flue and air inlet - please refer to Broag for further details NOTE: 110mm and 125mm not Broag supply

100mm single wall aluminium flue system Components (for Q65 )

'L'

101 i/d

100 o/d


105

105



76

76

125

101 i/d

80 o/d



50



25-55 mm


101 i/d

95

30



QBF0012

10

10

200

60

101 i/d

Top


20

Fall to boiler

100mm Aluminium single wall flue system. For Max length see boiler technical booklet

Flue outlet

QBF0026

Air from plant room

Quinta 65, 85 and 115 - 100mm Conventional or Open Flue Systems Typical single boiler installation - can also be used for multiple boilers with each boiler having its own flue system. Please ensure that the overall route does not exceed the Max values in table on page 21.

QBF0014

600 X 500

Cut down to suit dia. of Flue in use and seal with silicone supplied

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Detail of Standard weathering plate for 100 to 150 flue (Part No VE001)

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Quinta 65, 85 and 115 - 100mm Conventional or Open Flue Systems

Quinta 65 100mm

Quinta 85 100mm



Metres 1.4 1.4


Metres 4.9 4.9

Quinta 115 100mm

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1.4

4.9

NOTE: Table shows max length of flue (using 100mm)— Greater distances can be achieved by using larger diameter flue - please refer to Broag-Remeha for further details.


'L'

101 i/d

100 o/d


105

105



76

76

125

101 i/d

80 o/d



50



25-55 mm


101 i/d

95

30



QBF0012

10

10

200

60

101 i/d

Top

(As the Boiler is fan assisted it makes no difference if the run is horizontal or vertical but should terminate vertically as shown on page 10)


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DH


Tapered conec/w bird guard

QBF0028

Quinta 65, 85 and 115 - Multi boiler Installation on a combined header (For Conventional or Open Flue Systems). Typical multi boiler installation with the flue combined into a single header and riser.

Quinta 65, 85 and 115 Multi boiler Installation connected to a common header and riser in Series Open Flue

Total 2 to 4 5 to 8 9 to 12 13 to 16 17 to 20

kW Combination “D” Header and Riser diameter in mm

122 2 x Q65 155 145 145 145 150

183 3 x Q65 220 200 195 190 190

244 4 x Q65 265 240 230 225 225

168 2 x Q85 175 165 160 160 170

252 3 x Q85 250 225 215 215 210

336 4 x Q85 305 270 255 250 245

“H” Height of riser in Metres

214 2 x Q115 200 185 180 180 180

321 3 x Q115 285 255 240 235 235

428 4 x Q115 345 305 285 275 275

NOTE: Using 90° boiler connections into the header may result in larger headers and risers being required Other multi boiler flue combinations for the Quinta 65, 85 and 115 may be available to suit different site conditions — for further information please consult your Area Sales Manager — contact details can be found on our web site www.uk.remeha.com

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Quinta 65, 85 and 115 - Multi or Single boiler Installation on a Flue Dilution system NOTE: Broag is unable to offer a flue dilution system and recommends that the installer con-tacts a flue specialist to design and manufacture the system in accordance with the re-quirements of the British Standards and to comply with the guidelines illustrated below

30mm

D

Bellmouth2 x D + 50mm

Opening in duct 2 x D

Typical Duct entry DetailQBF0016-A

Drain

QBF0029


Typical multi boiler installation for a flue dilution flue system showing the flue break nec-essary for all pre-mix boilers to prevent the dilution fan affecting the gas/air ratio control system in the boiler.

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The data published in this technical sales leaflet is based on the latest information (at date of publication) and maybe subject to revisions. It should be read in conjunction with our full technical brochure (available on request). Wereserve the right to continuous development in both design and manufacture, therefore any changes to the technologyor equipment employed may not be retrospective, nor may we be obliged to adjust earlier supplies accordingly. Issue 12 date: 18/01/10

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