SECTION 19 AND 22 PERMITS

NOT FOR PROFIT PASSENGER TRANSPORT PERMIT RULES

13TH February 2014 YVONNE CHAPPELL FCILT

SECTION 19 PERMITS

• THREE TYPES OF VEHICLE

• Small bus permits (8 seats or less)• Standard permits (no more than 16 seats excluding driver)• Large bus permits (17 seats and above)• Operated without a view to a profit• Membership operation• Cannot take general members of the public

SECTION 22 PERMITS• Commonly called community bus permits• Issued to organisations concerned for the social and welfare needs

of one or more communities• Operates without a view to a profit• Routes are local bus services and can carry the general public (unlike

section 19) • Vehicles adapted to carry 9 or more passengers (excluding the

driver) may be used under a community bus permit• An organisation may hold both section 19 and 22 permits but a

vehicle only be used under one type of permit at a time. the correct disc must be on display.• Coggleshall – two permits

19 AND 22 PERMITS• Permits allow the holder to operate transport services for hire or

reward without the need for a full public service vehicle (PSV operator’s licence)• If you are using your vehicle for hire and reward without either a

valid PSV operator’s licence or a permit you could be prosecuted and have your vehicle impounded by VOSA• A permit holder has responsibility to ensure that their services are

operated within the law with vehicles properly licensed and maintained as well as using drivers with the right qualifications.• If no charge is made either directly or indirectly for services that

include carriage on the vehicle then no permit is required.

SECTION 19 AND 22 NOT FOR HIRE AND REWARD

• Only organisations that provide transport on a “not for profit” basis can apply for permits and are exempt from PSV license and hire and reward regulations• Payment – direct or indirect• Courts – indirect payments still hire and reward• No direct or indirect payments – no need for a permit• Transport can only be provided to not for profit bodies• Supermarket example

WHAT IS HIRE AND REWARD - Why do we need a Section 19

Permit?• Direct payments:• Fares, Tips• Indirect payments:• ANY gifts or free offers such us:• Hotel stay included in holiday but transport no additional charge• Theatre ticket includes free transport• Driver given a gift• Christmas gifts, i.e. bottles of wine and chocolates• Payment of trip by a commercial profit making organisation

QUICK QUIZ

Which Permit does a Community Bus require?

Which Permit is required to carry the general public?

What are the three sizes of buses requiring Permits?

QUIZ ANSWERS

• Which Permit does a Community Bus require?• Section 22Which Permit is required to carry the general public?• Section 22 What are the sizes of the three buses requiring Permits?• Small, Standard and Large

SECTION 19 AND 8 SEATS OR UNDER

(excluding driver)• Separate fares – 8 seats or under – MPV - (April 2009)• Payment on vehicle or in advance• Vehicle and driver for hire – PHV (private hire licence) – no group

hire• Direct and indirect fares rule applies• No separate fares, vehicle needs a PHV • Social/community car different legislation

SECTION 19 PERMIT ISSUING BODIES

• Traffic Commissioners (both)• Designated bodies (Section 19 only, not large bus)• Designated body must be concerned with Education, Religion, Social

Welfare, Recreation and any other activities of benefit to the community• Examples: Local Authorities, National voluntary organisations, such

as CTA UK, Age UK and the Scout and Guide movement• List of designated bodies can be obtained from

“permits@vosa.gov.uk”

SECTION 22 PERMITS

• Only issued by traffic commissioners• Applications to the central licensing office in Leeds• Forms available from the VOSA contact centre 0300 123 9000• Central licensing office in Leeds by emailing “permits@vosa.gov.uk• Fees are payable see

www.gov.uk/government/publications/bus-registration-and-permits-scale-of-fees• Only used for 9 passenger seated vehicles or over• Traffic commissioner – maintenance, up to PSV standards, COIF

(certificate of initial fitness or CoC (certificate of conformity)

WHO CAN APPLY FOR A SECTION 19 PERMIT?

• Any organisation without a view to a profit, concerned with• Education, • Religion• Social welfare• Recreation (standard permits only)• Other activities of benefit to the community

QUICK QUIZ

• Who issues the list of designated bodies for the issue of Section 19 Permits?

• Who can issue both Section 19 and 22 Permits?

• What is the minimum size of vehicle that can be used on a Section 22 Permit?

• Who can apply for a Section 19 Permit?

QUIZ ANSWERS• Who issues the list of designated bodies for the issue of Section 19

Permits?• VOSA – via email permits@vosa.gov.uk• Who can issue both Section 19 and 22 Permits?• VOSA• What is the minimum size of vehicle that can be used on a Section 22

Permit?• 9 Seats• Who can apply for a Section 19 Permit?• Any organisation without a view to a profit, concerned with

• Education, • Religion• Social welfare• Recreation (standard permits only)• Other activities of benefit to the community

WHO CAN APPLY FOR A SECTION 22 PERMIT

• Commonly known as Community Bus Permits• Organisations that operate vehicles without a view to profit and are

concerned for the social and welfare needs of one or more communities• Those wanting to run a local bus service on a non profit making

basis.• Registered Charities• Not for profit organisations such Companies Limited by Guarantee

and Social Enterprises

PERMITS AND FEES• Section 19 small and large bus permits• 6th April 2014 no longer valid• Time limited permits (5 years) introduced April 2009• One for every vehicle that you operate at any one time• One for every vehicle you hire in or brokerage vehicle• The permit disc must be displayed in each vehicle

• Fees vary depending on who issued the Permit. CTA UK charge is in the region of £11.00 per Permit.

LOCAL TRANSPORT ACT 2008• OLD PERMITS• Not time limited, issued once• Named “small bus disc” • April 2009 new legislation• 5 years to change permits• Not valid after 6th April 2014

• NEW PERMITS• Renewal very 5 years• Named “standard disc”• Live as from 2009• All must have new permits by

6th April 2014

TENDERING FOR CONTRACTS

• Section 19 permits - cannot bid for local services (section 89 of the 1985 transport act)• School transport• Specialised door to door services – dial a ride• Limited to the class of passengers specified on the permit• Education, Religion, Social Welfare, Recreation

• Section 22 can bid for local services• Also for quality partnership contracts (section 130 of the transport

act 2000)• Cannot make a profit but can achieve full cost recovery

QUICK QUIZ

• Who can apply for a Section 22 Permit?

• Which Permit allows an organisation to bid for a local bus service?

• Which Permit allows an organisation to bid for a school or specialised transport service?

• Name two differences between the old Section 19 Permit and the new one?

QUIZ ANSWERS

• Who can apply for a Section 22 Permit?• Charities, not for profit organisations, Companies Ltd by Guarantee• Which Permit allows an organisation to bid for a local bus service?• Section 22• Which Permit allows an organisation to bid for a school or

specialised transport service?• Section 19• Name two differences between the old Section 19 Permit and the

new one? • Now time limited and called a standard disc

SUGGESTED CONTACT DETAILS• VOSA permits@vosa.gov.uk, • VOSA licensing application services• Hillcrest House

386 Harehills LaneLeedsLS9 6NF 0300 123 9000 • Customer service centre• VOSA

The Ellipse Padley RoadSwanseaSA1 8AN• Email enquiries@vosa.gov.uk • CTA UK - ctauk.org (web page)