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1 Is the search for yield a dangerous game? Gary Dugan, Chief Investment Officer, Asia & Middle East Oct 2012 2 Remember this bubble….. Charts and scenarios are for illustrative purposes only and historical performance is no guarantee for future performance. Please refer to the Important Information at the end of this document for more details. $9.67 “I am financially ruined by this meltdown. Why some people take pleasure in that is beyond me.” Nov-01 $66.00 “I have owned Enron since it was formed and will be able to retire next year at 44 when the stock hits $100 so just shut up and buy.” Jun-00 $56.38 “The vision of the company 15 years ago was that the returns would be sound for the next 20 years. What an understatement. Hold and enjoy. This is a hundred year investment at worse.” Jan-00 $35.00 “As an Enron employee and a holder of options as well as their stock in my portfolio, I see nothing but wealth ahead. All you naysayers go, there will be others to pick up your future gains.” Oct-99 $26.47 “Enron is a wonderful company, and I am very upbeat as to the company’s long-term potential. I expect that I’ll begin thinking about selling somewhere around 2017.” Dec-98 Stock Price Anonymous message on the Yahoo! Board Date Source: Felton, Kim; Warnings from the Enron Message Board ; 2002; Journal of Institutional Investors, Merrill Lynch, Bloomberg Enron Price History 0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 Apr-88 Apr-89 Apr-90 Apr-91 Apr-92 Apr-93 Apr-94 Apr-95 Apr-96 Apr-97 Apr-98 Apr-99 Apr-00 Apr-01 Apr-02 Apr-03 Apr-04 Apr-05 0 500,000,000 1,000,000,000 1,500,000,000 2,000,000,000 2,500,000,000 3,000,000,000 3,500,000,000 4,000,000,000 4,500,000,000 5,000,000,000 5,500,000,000 6,000,000,000 Trading Volume (RS) Enron Stock Price (LS)

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Is the search for yield a dangerous game?Gary Dugan, Chief Investment Officer, Asia & Middle East

Oct 2012

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Remember this bubble…..

Charts and scenarios are for illustrative purposes only and historical performance is no guarantee for future performance. Please refer to the Important Information at the end of this document for more details.

$9.67“I am financially ruined by this meltdown. Why some people take pleasure in that is beyond me.”Nov-01

$66.00“I have owned Enron since it was formed and will be able to retire next year at 44 when the stock hits $100 so just shut up and buy.”Jun-00

$56.38“The vision of the company 15 years ago was that the returns would be sound for the next 20 years. What an understatement. Hold and enjoy. This is a hundred year investment at worse.”

Jan-00

$35.00“As an Enron employee and a holder of options as well as their stock in my portfolio, I see nothing but wealth ahead. All you naysayers go, there will be others to pick up your future gains.”

Oct-99

$26.47“Enron is a wonderful company, and I am very upbeat as to the company’s long-term potential. I expect that I’ll begin thinking about selling somewhere around 2017.”

Dec-98

Stock PriceAnonymous message on the Yahoo! BoardDate

Source: Felton, Kim; “Warnings from the Enron Message Board”; 2002; Journal of Institutional Investors, Merrill Lynch, Bloomberg

Enron Price History

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Enron Stock Price (LS)

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Bond Bubble in the making?

Charts and scenarios are for illustrative purposes only and historical performance is no guarantee for future performance. Please refer to the Important Information at the end of this document for more details.

“It might be a bubble but I will know when to get out.”Aug-Oct 2012

“I only want risk-free bonds.”2010

“Soon there will be no government debt left.”2001

“Inflation is structurally falling.”1982-1995

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US10yr Bond Yield (% Inversed)

Source: Bloomberg

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4Charts and scenarios are for illustrative purposes only and historical performance is no guarantee for future performance. Please refer to the Important Information at the end of this document for more details.

US, UK, Japan & German 10yr Govt Bond Yield (%)

Source: Bloomberg

Bond Bull Market – Since 1990

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If you are in a herd you are not alone

Charts and scenarios are for illustrative purposes only and historical performance is no guarantee for future performance. Please refer to the Important Information at the end of this document for more details.

FTSE All-Share Index versus Net Fund Flows into UK Investment Funds (Historical)

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If you are in a herd you are not alone

Charts and scenarios are for illustrative purposes only and historical performance is no guarantee for future performance. Please refer to the Important Information at the end of this document for more details.

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The Drivers to the US Bond Bull Market – Falling Inflation Expectations

[Presentation main title as per title page] 8

The Drivers to the US Bond Bull Market – Falling Real Yields

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The Drivers to the US Bond Bull Market – Decomposing the Fall in Nominal Yields

10Charts and scenarios are for illustrative purposes only and historical performance is no guarantee for future performance. Please refer to the Important Information at the end of this document for more details.

US 10yr Govt Bond Yield (%) minus US CPI (YoY%), in %Spread

Source: Bloomberg

Real Yield Low by Historic Standards

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No surplus just a massive deficit…

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Fair Value for Bonds?

Charts and scenarios are for illustrative purposes only and historical performance is no guarantee for future performance. Please refer to the Important Information at the end of this document for more details.

• Yield versus Nominal GDP Growth

• Yield adjustment for quantitative easing

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10-year Bond tracks nominal GDP growth… but a gap has opened

Charts and scenarios are for illustrative purposes only and historical performance is no guarantee for future performance. Please refer to the Important Information at the end of this document for more details.

US 10yr Govt Bond Yield (%) vs US Nominal GDP Growth (YoY% Chg)

Source: Bloomberg

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Japan Experience suggests that deviations from “Fair Value” can persist

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15Charts and scenarios are for illustrative purposes only and historical performance is no guarantee for future performance. Please refer to the Important Information at the end of this document for more details.

Year-on year change in US 10 year total return Index

Source: Bloomberg

Bonds can Lose You Money

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16Charts and scenarios are for illustrative purposes only and historical performance is no guarantee for future performance. Please refer to the Important Information at the end of this document for more details.

US Govt10+yr TR YoY% Chg Relative to US Govt 10yr Yield

Source: Bloomberg

Never have yields been so low after extraordinary returns from bonds

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17Charts and scenarios are for illustrative purposes only and historical performance is no guarantee for future performance. Please refer to the Important Information at the end of this document for more details.

US Govt10yr Yield (%) vs 3y Average Bond Return (%)

Source: Bloomberg

Never have yields been so low after extraordinary returns from bonds

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18Charts and scenarios are for illustrative purposes only and historical performance is no guarantee for future performance. Please refer to the Important Information at the end of this document for more details.

Subsequent one year Bond Return (YoY% Chg) vs Average Bond Return *Less 10yr Bond Yield (%)

Source: Bloomberg

Never have yields been so low after extraordinary returns from bonds

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19Charts and scenarios are for illustrative purposes only and historical performance is no guarantee for future performance. Please refer to the Important Information at the end of this document for more details.

Markit US Investment Grade 5yr CDS Spread (bps)

Source: Bloomberg

Credit spreads have narrowed – difficult to say that 2012=2007

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Markit Asia ex Japan Investment Grade 5yr CDS Spread (bps)

Source: Bloomberg

Asia spread targeting 100bps

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21Charts and scenarios are for illustrative purposes only and historical performance is no guarantee for future performance. Please refer to the Important Information at the end of this document for more details.

JPMorgan Asia IG & Non-IG Corporates (Ytm%)

Source: Bloomberg

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FINRA US IG & High Yield Corporates (Avg Ytm%)

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Best income idea - Equities

0.7%3.3%Hong Kong

1.6%4.0%UK

1.6%3.5%Germany

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1.7%2.1%US

10 year bond yieldCurrent Equity Dividend YieldMarket

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Higher income typically requires illiquidity

Invest in a portfolio of Italian bank loans – 17%

Invest in UK bridging loans – 8%

Invest in English Premier League TV rights – 15%

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In summary

Beware the end of the bond bull market – do not follow the herd

Safe income investing is not for capital gains

Equities offer ‘safer’ income

If you are prepared to take illiquidity invest where the banks won’t venture

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