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Kirill: This is Five Minute Friday, Mentorship.
Kirill: Welcome back to the SuperDataScience podcast, ladies
and gentlemen, super excited to have you on this
episode. So today I have with me here Vitaly and
Hadelin, my two good friends and people who I
actually consider my mentors. And we are in New
Zealand. We're doing a motorbike trip and the
background noise you hear is because we're at a
restaurant, something different. Decided to try it out.
So let me know what you think about this kind of
format. Very casual. We're having dinner and let's say
hi to our guests. Vitaly, how are you going?
Vitaly: Good guys, I'm doing really well and great company,
great country, great food.
Kirill: Awesome. Hadelin?
Hadelin: I'm exhausted. We've just ride for 8 or 10 hours and
we did 500 kilometers. I'm just freaking exhausted.
Kirill: Awesome. Okay, so we're just having some dinner and
some wine and we decided to talk a bit about
mentorship because it's a topic that's come up for us
over the past couple of days. As you may know from
the podcast, Vitaly is my mentor and he's really helped
me out with becoming an entrepreneur and growing
my business and yeah. So just, guys, what are your
thoughts on mentorship? What's it all about?
Vitaly: It's a must thing to have and I think pretty much
everyone has either formal or informal mentors. I think
the sooner you formalize and realize whom you want to
learn from and what you want to learn the better. The
same way Kirill mentioned that I'm his mentor, which
I'm honored to hear. I think the same way Kirill acts
for me as a mentor in areas that he's good at, being an
entrepreneur, working together in a team with Hadelin
and many other guys from SuperDataScience, building
the business, trying different projects, succeeding,
failing, succeeding again. That's an amazing skill to
have and I'm still learning that. So, mentors are a
must. I have quite a few of my own and if you as
listeners don't have any at this stage or you can't come
up with your top three mentors, it's a good time to
pause and take a piece of paper and a pen and write
down and think about it a little bit more. What do you
think Hadelin, do you have any, do you have any
mentors of your own?
Hadelin: I don't right now, but I'm actually looking for one. I
was not convinced about a mentorship until recently. I
thought I could you know, I thought I didn't need a
mentor. But recently I've been doing a lot of a personal
development. I've been reading a lot of books, I've
studied a lot of success in business, successful
business stories. And I figured out that most of the
most successful entrepreneurs, even celebrities, sport
people, most of them have a mentor. So this got me
pretty convinced that I also need a mentor. And so yes,
for the past few weeks I've been looking for one and I
hope to find one soon. Because now, I honestly believe
that it's really necessary, as you say. You can grow by
yourself, you can develop your business and grow, as
well personally, as professionally. But I am totally
convinced that you will do it much more efficiently
with a mentor.
Kirill: But how are you going to find a mentor? These are the
past few weeks you've been looking for one. What does
that mean?
Hadelin: Yeah, I've been looking for one. So I looked at some
websites, I contacted mentors that are recognized in
the field and yeah, I guess I'll find it. When you look
for something you, you, you'll find it.`
Kirill: Very interesting. My experience with mentors has been
different. For me, it's always got to happen naturally
except for when you got a business coach. Like I have
a business coach, but there as well, you have to look
that that's kind of more what I think that's the part
where I was looking for someone and going through
different people and finding the right person. In terms
of mentors like the way Vitaly and I met was just, I
was moving furniture for him.
Vitaly: Would you like to tell him the story?
Kirill: So I was moving furniture to Artem Vladimirov and I
we worked at Deloitte and then we had another friend
there who worked there as well his name is Dimitri.
He's also been on the podcast at the very start. Then
Dimitri one day asked us, "Hey guys, could you help
me to come move furniture? We're moving to a
different place." So we came over helped him move
furniture, at the very end, his roommate Vitaly comes
over and like I look at Vitaly and in his eyes I see like
so much passion, energy, intellect. Then in there is
like love from first sight. I decided that he has to
become, I need to make him my mentor or ask him to
be my mentor and yeah. Oh and wait, wait, wait. Do
you remember what happened after that?
Vitaly: Yes, I do. So I'll take like 10 minutes back. I see Kirill
for the first time. I see he's kind of like a wild eyes, like
crazy craving for learning. And he said, "oh Vitaly do
you mind like, we'll catch up sometime for an hour
just for informal chat. I would like to ask you some
questions" and I kind of like half-hearted listen. "Yeah,
of course. Sure." Thinking that he'll forget it like
tomorrow. And I'll be all good.
Vitaly: Half a day later I kind of like received a text message,
like asking for the place and location. And a day later
Kirill rocks up with a notepad and like 25 or 30
questions and written down and I realize that's going
to take time. And by the end of it I was like extremely
happy. The questions that Kirill asked were like
profound. They started simple like how do I manage
my time, what do I use to manage my commitments?
Like in terms of the calendar and whatnot. And it went
all the way to how do I decide whether I'm happy in
life. And those things started to make me think and I
realized that the questions Kirill was asking were quite
profound and useful for me even to reflect on. That's
how it started like three hours later and like a half of a
notebook written with a handwriting and that was an
amazing session. So yeah, thanks a lot for setting up
and asking those questions.
Kirill: Thanks man for helping me out. And I remember you
recommended the Tim Ferris book "The 4-Hour
Workweek". That's where I found out about it and
really helped me out in that part of my career
professional journey. And since then like I've, I've also,
I don't know, I guess I've acted as a mentor to some
people and I always try to recommend a book that is
relevant to them in their career journey at that point in
time. Like I know many good books, maybe like 5 or 10
that have affected me profoundly, but I only
recommend one and I choose that based on where they
are.
Vitaly: Interesting you said that because Hadelin and I our
last night discussed exactly that. Do you remember
Hadelin? About the books and movies, the role they
play in our lives. What was our conclusion from, what
are your takeaways from our dinner last night?
Hadelin: Let's see.
Hadelin: Okay, so first of all I was happy to see that I was not
the only one who could be really, really inspired by
characters and movie to whom you identify. So yes, I
thought it was pretty cool to see that movies can
inspire and help you also a lot. So we talked about the
personality tests, whether we are introvert or extrovert,
but we already covered that in another podcast
episode.
Vitaly: Could you mention, your top three, top three books?
Hadelin: Oh yes. Okay. So my favorite one is The Power of Now,
which I actually have right now during this motorcycle
trip in New Zealand.
Hadelin: The second one is Sapiens and the third one is A
Father, A Son, An Odessey. In French? In French is
[inaudible 00:09:14]. So yeah. Okay. We talked about
this yesterday. We talked about a Greek mythology, so
I don't want to reveal the story, but it's, it's kind of the
same stories as in the Greek mythology and yeah, it's
a, it's about a relationship between a father and a son.
And so I really, I really liked it because I could also
actually identify to the story even if it happens in some
ancient time. And it was written a long time ago. So,
yeah, I don't know, what about you? What were your
main takeaways?
Vitaly: I think you've covered it pretty well, but I think my
main takeaway was that if you don't have always a
person, physical person that you talk to that you
consider a mentor, a lot of times you have characters.
It could be a fictional, could be real that you tried to
aspire to be like, and you watch their behaviors you
reread the same books. Re watch the same movies, so
that was an interesting observation that we had last
night about that. Kirill, do you think you identify
yourself to any of the characters of the movies or
books? Do you think books and movies or maybe
theater plays acted as a mentor, as a in lieu of a
mentor for you?
Kirill: Cool question. I don't identify any like any specific one
character, but like when I always watch movies, the
movies I like the most is where I can identify. In terms
of books, I read very cool fictional book recently called
Red Rising about colonization of Mars and I actually
read Red Rising, then what is the second one? Golden
Sun and Morning Stars like a trilogy by Pierce Brown I
think. That is just really cool. Very Sci-Fi, futuristic,
amazing book. Highly recommend to everyone and
there, it's really served like a great mentor to me in
terms of leadership, like the leadership skills that are
portrayed during a war, during difficult times, during
space battles and things like that. Like I learned so
much from that and friendships even how to maintain,
nurture friendships. I learned so much from that, from
those three books. I don't think I could've, I had
known those things before. I could have learned that it
would've taken me years to learn those on my own.
Was really really cool. I enjoy that a lot.
Vitaly: So having said that, like the discussion that we had,
what would be the call to action? What would be the
suggestion to the podcast listeners right now?
Kirill: We've already did the go-to action. I think a good
question for you guys is because we discuss like
movies, books, you can listen to podcasts and have
mentors that way, right? You can, I don't know, like
attend webinars, go to seminars and so on, like have
mentors in a passive way that the other person might
not even know that they are your mentor. My question
would be is there a difference between in-person
mentorship versus passive mentorship where you're
just absorbing information, not having those one on
one conversations? What do you reckon?
Hadelin: No, no, no, no, no. For me, you must have the one on
one conversations because I guess the most valuable
help of a mentor is not only to guide but also to push
to take action and you can only be pushed to take
action with the one on one sessions, but then yes, I'm
new to mentorship. I actually don't even have a mentor
yet, but I'm interested to know what you think.
Vitaly: I think it's a good one. I think if you have what would
probably we called a passive mentorship, there was no
one to objectively, or at least to look at you from
another point of view.
Vitaly: If you learn by yourself, you are identifying your own
gaps and trying to feel them with what you observe
them from a mentor. In one on one interactions there
is a person to tell you something that you didn't know
like to make an observation about your behavior or to
ask a question that you are not able to ask yourself
otherwise. So I think there is a difference. There is an
increased value in having those active mentors and
having those conversations to hear an awesome like $1
million question from a mentor is worth a lot. It could
change your life. You might not be able to hear that
tailored question through a passive mean like through
a podcast through a book. What do you reckon Kirill?
Kirill: I think there's value to both whether passive or active,
but I definitely think the person should not limit
themselves to just passive mentors. The amount of
information insights I've gotten from podcasts, books, I
don't know, webinars, seminars, excuse me and so on
is incredible. However, like Vitaly can say during our
chats, we were talking about this earlier, sometimes
Vitaly says like it's just like one sentence and changes
the course of my whole career because I respect him so
much and because he understands my situation very
deeply, it's not so generalized, the advice is specifically
to me.
Kirill: So like for instance, those of you who have taken our
Deep Learning, Artificial Intelligence A-Z courses,
whether on Udemy or the SuperDataScience, Hadelin
and I did the Machine Learning A-Z course and the
mentor that pushed me to do that was actually my
mom. That was my mom, yeah, Machine Learning A-Z
because Hadelin translated the Data Science A-Z
course into French, which you did super efficiently like
in this space of a month, which was incredible for a 20
hour course. And then I was like "Ahh, let's translate
some more courses" and so on, but you wanted to do
something really cool. And I talked to my mom and she
was like, this guy is super-efficient. Super cool. Of
course you got to do something together. And like
bam, I was being a bit lazy, but my mom pushed me to
go ahead and do it.
Hadelin: That's what I'm talking about the mentor helps you,
what pushes you to take action and to take action in
the right path.
Kirill: Yeah, exactly. And so then we buckled down, it took
us another two or three months to do the Machine
Learning A-Z course is now like the bestselling
machine learning course in the world as far as I know.
Kirill: And it's got like what, 300,000 students and
everything. And you know, that was a push from my
mom. But then after that I again, I relaxed. I was
focusing on other courses or other things I thought we
should do like maybe other topics and data science
and so on, but you were like, let's do an artificial
intelligence course. Remember that?
Hadelin: Yeah.
Kirill: And then, and then so I was, I wasn't sure should we,
and anyway, I was basically, I've always said in my
view that we should do other topics, branch out into
visualization and other things. And I chatted to Vitaly.
I said, hey Vitaly, by the way, this wasn't, I remember
this wasn't a central topic of our discussion. It was like
a "by the way" type of thing, but anyway, "Vitaly this
guy Hadelin and I created a course together when we,
well, you know, he's really excited, enthusiastic to do
another course on AI and things like that. I'm not sure
about it. What do you think? "And so Vitaly is like
"Well, where does most of your revenue come from?"
Do you remember that conversation?
Kirill: So Vitaly is like, "where's the most of your revenue
come from? How good is that course?" Like, "that
course is amazing. It's doing really well. You know,
80% of our results are coming from that course. And
he was like, "well, there's your answer. Just do more of
that course, you know, like focused on that for a
while." And then bam, we did the Deep Learning A-Z,
launching Kickstarter, raised about $150,000, 150 on
Deep Learning and then AI A-Z raised $200,000 plus
launched the course.
Vitaly: Yeah. And the revenue is the proxy for the interest and
for the value that you guys provide to to the
customers. So while we talk about the numbers, that's
a objective measure of how much you value the
contribution the guys are making in the educational
space. So there is no better way to look at it. Like if
you are willing to give me the money it means the
product must be good and it's a feedback that I think
Kirill and Hadelin listened to like where the money
comes from, where you guys are putting your money
and you're willing to spend and learn these things and
do more of that. Do more of what the listeners want.
Kirill: Exactly. Very, very good point. And all of that came
from one sentence you said we were just having all the
usual catch up one sentence you said, bam done. I can
numerous times you can name like probably a dozen
more of the times, there was somebody
underperforming in the team. I asked you what to do,
you gave me some advice and now this person has
grown, flourished over the past two years and now
we're, Hadelin and I are working on now,
Hadelin: He's becoming our partner.
Kirill: He's becoming our partner in the business. It's crazy.
So highly, I think the value of in-person mentorship, if
you find the right person, if you actually feel it, that's
like Vitaly asked me that question today, right? Like
how did you know? Why did you pick me as a mentor?
You just feel it. It's really hard to like calculate. You
just feel it.
Vitaly: It was an interesting question that other one prompted
me actually to ask and that's something that he asked
me last night, [inaudible 00:19:05] so that was a good.
Hadelin: It's actually, it's really important. How or why do we
find a mentor? Why are we convinced that a mentor is
the one that can help us? So you actually answered it
at the beginning of this podcast episode. You said it
happens naturally, but would you like to tell more of
how it happened between Vitaly and yourself?
Kirill: Yeah, yeah. As we, as we like as I mentioned a bit like
I just saw it in his eyes and I don't know, it was just
like I felt it. Is just a feeling for me. I don't know if it
works the same way for everyone. Yeah. It's not a,
Vitaly's making the heart sign as if I felt love.
Hadelin: Yep. For me what you're saying totally makes sense.
Because I also feel that I can understand someone and
see if a person is nice through his eyes. You know, as
we say, the eyes are the reflection of the soul. So by
looking really deeply at someone's eyes, you can have
a good idea of how good is the soul.
Kirill: Yeah, I totally agree. That's probably for me the same
thing. But Vitaly you have a few mentors yourself. Who
are they and how did you choose them?
Vitaly: Good question and Hadelin asked me that question
last night. That's why we came about the topic of this
podcast. For me the mentors, specific mentors
changed all the time like at different times of my life
and career, there were different people. And my
current set of mentors actually relate more to what I
want to achieve in life today, they are related to family
and to becoming a great husband and future father of
my kids. So a number of people that are not in the
business world are great mentors for me. If I
mentioned some names they wouldn't probably mean
anything to the listeners in the business world.
Actually I look up to you guys quite a lot of the way
you provide a value to the listeners of this podcast to
other data scientists is intriguing for me to look at and
I want to be at proxy in my own line of career to do a
similar thing to scale the impact you do with your
abilities.
Vitaly: There are number of professional consultants that I
look up to because of their skills. One of them is Victor
Cheng or the ex-McKinsey guy who currently runs his
company and his website is www.caseinterview.com.
He prepares people for management consulting career,
like very narrow specific niche and also gives a general
advice. So he definitely has been my mentor for a
while. There are a number of close friends and
relatives that were cherry picked who I want to
emulate and mimic. Yeah, I would say there is a
bunch. It takes a village, I guess, any specific skills
from different individuals that I want to combine and
learn from and to become myself. So it's not a
copycatting I like, I'm not doing a very bad thing. Kind
of like coping of a person. It's speaking things that
relate to you the most. Could be one skill or one value,
one type of behavior and saying, this is what I want to
be. I want to emulate, I want to learn, I want to grow
combining them and it becomes you. So yeah, that'll
be my answer.
Kirill: Interesting. So for me it was like a feeling, for you is
these are people in your life or people you know like
I'm assuming Victor Chen is someone not directly in
your life, but somebody you knew about and then and
then you decide, okay, this person has a certain skill.
This is what I need now I want, I'm going to approach
them as my mentor. I'm going to like learn from them.
Right? But before you talked about formalizing the
relationship, do you every time formalize this
relationship or not? And what does that mean to
formalize a mentorship relationship?
Vitaly: I guess it's if I mentioned formalize, what I meant is to
acknowledge for yourself that this person is a mentor
and make a regular time and effort commitments to
learn from that person. It could be through a one on
one meetings, through a call, through an email
subscription. There are many ways to formalize it, but
just to not to think about it like I'm being like ad hoc,
spontaneous, I believe might not work as effectively as
if you did it regularly. So big things are usually done in
a lot of small, consistent steps and that's what I
believe the good mentorship is about. A lot of small,
consistent quality advice from people that you've
deliberately chosen.
Kirill: Totally agree. Consistency is key, right? If we hadn't
meet, we catch up maybe… Before we'd catch up, they
were being usually weekly. We would catch up like
once a quarter. There've been years where we'd catch
up once every six months. Recently we've been
catching up more often I think because now we have
more interests to do, like just have crazy adventures
together. I am talking about partners, no we have
partners.
Vitaly: Now we are just talking about our partners in life that
also we bring them together like to dinners and
whatnot. And the frequent listeners know that about
your relationship. No. Well here's the spoiler. It's nice
to meet not only like individually but also with
significant others, introduce them and find even more
of common interests. So Hadelin, I think you're next
right? In terms of finding your passion, love and
joining the crew.
Hadelin: Absolutely. And you know when I wonder about my
purpose in life, it seems to be finding love and it's so
hard, but I believe in it. And you know what, I'm going
to reveal something. The reason why I'm looking for a
mentor is more on this personal side of life than for a
professional or, [inaudible 00:25:17].
Kirill: Wow. Very interesting. Tell us more, why? Why is that?
Hadelin: Well, I mean in business I don't really feel the need for
a mentor right now. I'm sure I'll have one one day
cause it's the same thing. A mentor in business can
help you save a lot of time, grow more efficiently and
all. So I'm sure I'll have one day, but what I'm looking
for is more a personal development mentor. That's why
it's probably more difficult to find because it's less
common, but yes. Vitaly, since you are a mentor
yourself, I have a question for you. What advice would
you give me to find a mentor?
Vitaly: Sounds like it's another huge topic that we're just
about, we're just about to open another can of worms,
I guess. A good question. I don't think I'm a master in
this. I think I was like damn lucky finding my own love
and my passion, my significant other. I don't think I
did any deliberate moves or actions to find that
person. So my, the observation that I have, it came at
a moment where I has been looking the least. So if
you're really looking for your love, that's where you are
likely not to find one because you are being so
thorough and methodical in your search. There was
always like a checklist. It removes a lot of spontaneity
and opportunity for a random spark. When you let it
go and be and trying to be yourself do business and
something. You find that people emerge in your life
and sparks happen like left and right. And one day you
will look in the eyes of a person and say, I think I want
to spend, I want to grow up, grow old together with
that person and that might be the one.
Hadelin: Okay. I agree with what you're saying and actually I
heard that before. You know, you'll find love when you
don't look for it. However you know, the past four
years I was not looking for that. I was only focusing on
the business, growing the business, making it
successful, create online courses and I was not looking
for it. And it turns out that, I ended up in a situation
where, you know, because I was an entrepreneur
growing my business in a community of data
scientists, well it turned, I rationally understood that it
was hard for me to find love.
Hadelin: So I guess you're right. But I guess I should do some
some kind of required steps and some efforts in order
to find it because my situation today would lead me, if
I'm not looking for it, my situation today would lead
me to find love with a very low probability.
Vitaly: There was one thing that occurred to me while you
Hadelin was talking about this. Tony Robins is a
probably a common mentor of ours in many ways and
we're planning to go like together to the Date with
Destiny this year, 2020. One of the takeaways from
last date with destiny that we attended Kirill, you and I
attended two years ago now, was forgiveness to some
of your, forgiveness and gratitude to some of your past
relationships in order to be topping up to future
opportunities. It was something like one exercise I
remember Tony Robins made us to do is to write a
thank you letter and forgiveness letter and I did it to
my, one of my ex-girlfriends like that also I didn't have
great relationship with in the past, made myself close
up a little bit. So that might be something that an
exercise that is due.
Hadelin: Wow all right.
Vitaly: Kirill?
Kirill: As per Vitaly's spoiler, I am in a relationship now and
I'm pretty excited. Pretty stoked about it, actually very
stoked. And what I would say Hadelin is, you've been
there the whole time, right as I've been going through
different relationships and dates. So the one thing, I
wasn't looking for it as well, but one thing I
understood, like what I did was I worked on myself. I
worked on opening up more and with different
psychologists in order to open my heart and started
feeling more. And then not necessarily looking for love,
but then it kind of just like happened so. But I don't
know, you know like everybody's journey is different in
that way.
Kirill: Yeah. I guess in the matters of the heart for me is not
not finding a mentor to help me find love, but a mentor
to help me become a better person, to be more, to
attract the right type of person that I want to be with.
What do you think of that?
Hadelin: I definitely think that a psychologist can help. Mentors
can help, but I still think I should take actions. I
should do something. By that I just mean not, I should
not stay passive.
Kirill: Perfect I think that's some great insights.
Vitaly: Speaking of, not being passive and about mentors who
are there to push people to do, what do you think guys
is the take away for the listeners of this podcast? What
are the immediate steps they could do in the next
week?
Kirill: I'll start. I'll say find a, obviously if you don't have
passive mentors, start there. Find, well, if you're
listening to this podcast, that's already a good start,
right? So you're, that's a good step. Maybe find more
passive mentors. See what kind of books you've read
in the past that can be your passive mentors, but find
an active mentor. Like identify that one person in your
life who right now, doesn't necessarily mean for the
next year or two years, but right now there's a gap that
you, you need to fill in your life and a person that has
that skill, that can help you fill that gap. So identify
that person and formalize that relationship in your
own mind and go and talk to them on a regular basis
and see what happens. But basically like Hadelin said,
keep looking. And even if that person doesn't work out,
second person, third person will work out. Maybe by
the fifth one you will find a really good mentor.
Kirill: All right. What do you think Hadelin?
Hadelin: I think that's a, the major takeaway, and I'll say this
just to be very clear, is find a mentor, very simply, find
a mentor. You won't regret it. I don't have a mentor
yet. I know, but I studied a lot the question, I thought
a lot about this. And having a mentor really can help
you save a lot of time in life and also take the right
path, the more meaningful path, a more successful
path, and a better life. So now I'm convinced, I hope I
will find my mentor soon. I already had two interviews,
but I didn't like, I didn't have the connection with
them. So I'm going to look more and more and more
and have more interviews and I'll find the mentor.
Vitaly: And the way you, how would you find out whether you
found one or not? Kirill I think you've said something
important. It's about identifying that vacuum, whether
it's a skill or value or something that you want to feel.
What are the criteria for a mentor? Like someone with
more experience or demonstrated capability to do
something. What are the things mentorship process...
Hadelin, can you answer that one?
Hadelin: Yes, of course. So someone with experience and all is
important. But I think the most important is that this
mentor must understand you. I see myself as a pretty
complex person, with a very complex psychology. So
the key to find a mentor for me will be to find someone
who understands me. I think that's the most
important because the first step to guidance is to
understand.
Kirill: I think I'll redirect discussion back to Vitaly cause like
for me it's, I find mentors based on a feeling, not a
specific skill. I need to feel you're better at that than
me. For me, it's like as long as I feel I'm getting value,
I'm getting takeaways every time I talk to them, that's
valuable. But in terms of skill that's how you find
mentors. So what would you say?
Vitaly: Yeah, raising such a good topic about feeling versus
understanding and thinking about a particular issue,
like a mentor selection. I don't know. I think building
on what Hadelin said, I think there should be
connection in values. I feel and think that it's difficult
to learn from a person who has a mismatch like on a
personal and professional values. Like if I don't trust,
if I don't want to associate myself, want to be a part of
the family with that person, then it will be hard for me
to learn any professional or other skills. So I think that
connection on the value side of things would be a
must. And obviously seeing that person being miles
ahead on any topic, what creates that vacuum gap
that I want to close by spending time with a person, by
asking him questions or her questions or waiting to
answer those questions that he or she will ask me.
Kirill: Awesome. Fantastic advice. Yeah. Okay, I see. I think
we'll leave that there, that touches on a cool topic on
thinking versus feeling and something were really
chatted deeply about already on this trip. We'll
continue that on another episode, so thanks very
much guys and thank you to [inaudible 00:36:46] for
powering this conversation with energy. And yeah,
we'll continue on the future FiveMinuteFriday episode
we're actually thinking of recording, yeah, this has
been a 41 minute, FiveMinuteFriday, but we were
thinking of recording a longer episode as well. Okay,
everybody, cheers.
Vitaly: Bye.
Hadelin: Bye bye.
Kirill: Awesome. Happy analyzing until next time. Bye.
