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RPIDS and tuple issues Henning Schulzrinne with help from Paul Kyzivat SIMPLE WG (Interim Meeting, May 2003)

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RPIDS and tuple issues. Henning Schulzrinne with help from Paul Kyzivat SIMPLE WG (Interim Meeting, May 2003). Open Issues. From IETF56 SIMPLE minutes: RPIDS as successor to PIDF? tuple semantics labeling elements: uniqueness across time, space, … Mailing list discussion. - PowerPoint PPT Presentation

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RPIDS and tuple issues

Henning Schulzrinnewith help from Paul Kyzivat

SIMPLE WG (Interim Meeting, May 2003)

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Open Issues

• From IETF56 SIMPLE minutes:– RPIDS as successor to PIDF?– tuple semantics– labeling elements: uniqueness across time,

space, …

• Mailing list discussion

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Step back: what do we want presence to support?

• General notion of reachability for communications

• Generally, device-mediated

• Also, direct human-human communication (drop in and chat)

• Later, maybe status (“X is travelling, so no point in waiting for her to start the meeting”)

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How does the system work?

• RPIDS document (?) should spell out at least one scenario

u1: p1,p2|p3u2: p1,p4u3:p5,p6

caller callee

p1 u1 or u2p1+p2 u1p5, p5 u3

presence notification

INVITE u1Want: p1,p2,p9

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Open issues – what is a tuple?

• Three models have been proposed:1. All share same AOR (e.g., sip:[email protected]);

selection via CP• availability of caller preferences

2. Custom-generated address for each capability set (maybe several for each device); e.g., sip:[email protected]

• longevity of address?• tight relationship with proxy server

3. Contact addresses representing devices; e.g., tel:+1-555-123-4567, sip:[email protected]

• privacy• how long is address valid? (watcher address book)

• Not necessarily mutually exclusive – need all of them

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Tuple semantics

• Tuple represents opaque entity, e.g., a group– easy, since few characteristics except “this is a group”– intersection or union probably makes little sense

• Tuple represents media capability– “reachable by audio”– may be implemented by multiple devices

• Tuple represents device (or location)– may become more important as location information

increases– can be represented either by host or user part:

• direct contact (sip:[email protected])• unique label (sip:[email protected])

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Tuple semanticsaudio video text

home yes yes no

office yes yes, but low quality yes

mobile can, but inappropriate now can’t preferred

• But really N-dimensional hypercube:– arrange by ‘category’, ‘placetype’, ‘privacy’, …

• Thus, can’t hope to represent as anything but enumeration• While number of descriptors is large and will grow, number of

instances represented is likely to remain smallish (~3-5?)– mobile multi-function devices make smaller number of devices seem

likely

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Tuple perspectives

• hide details of user devices (and maybe location or other aspects)– sometimes, address could be used to guess user location or

behavior (aol.com home, mobile device traveling)– not all users will have the ability to create injective (1-1) identities– want centralized policy enforcement point for simplicity– focus on callee control

• provide details– description insufficient for informed caller choice– emphasis on caller empowerment

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Anonymous tuples

• Tuples without contact• Current meaning: face-to-face communications• Needed since presentity URI may not be usable

by communications application (e.g., pres:)• May also become useful for presence focused

on activity– e.g., track where rescue worker (soldier, nurse,

Maytag repairman, …) is and environmental characteristics (heart rate, air temperature, …)

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Tuple – resolution?

• Hard to anticipate uses document choices and trade-offs

• UI considered solvable:– represent as enumeration or table (matrix) with

properties in either case– use <note> to provide hints

• Can’t rely on caller preferences for the near future– should we require support on caller side for

disambiguation? (Opinion: policy issue)

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Open issues - label

• PIDF defines "id" tuple tag– allows to replace changed tuples without sending all the

unchanged ones– not clear from spec who modifies (PA?) and what its lifetime

is

• Separate "label" tag proposed– similar semantics, but set by presentity and left alone by PA– for policy filtering ("only show 'class=minimal' items when

notifying low-bandwidth watchers")

• Cf. Cascading Style Sheets (CSS):– "id" = unique across document– "class" = type of element

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Proposal: Labeling

• Support class parameter/label:– similar to <div class=X></div> semantics in HTML and CSS– one-to-many: one class, many tuples– each tuple can have at most one class– inherited (if supported in RPIDS)– used for filtering and policy

• Identifier (id):– for identification (replace, edit, delete) of specific tuples– unique across all tuples for presentity– should not be re-used– e.g., time of initial creation of tuple