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Rewards In Video Games Travis Day Senior Game Designer Blizzard Entertainment

Rewards In Video Games - Just a Designer · 2020. 8. 3. · •Sunwell. 2 - Balance Deterministic and Random •Wrath of the Lich King. 2 - Balance Deterministic and Random. 2 - Balance

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Rewards In Video Games

Travis DaySenior Game DesignerBlizzard Entertainment

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Who am I?

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Overview

Lessons I’ve learned from the mistakes I’ve made.

1 - Maintain established rewards

2 - Balance deterministic and random

3 - Make everything feel overpowered

4 - Be generous

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1 - Maintain Established Rewards

Understanding the overjustification effect

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1 - Maintain Established Rewards

• The overjustification effect

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1 - Maintain Established Rewards

• Diablo 3 paragon levels

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1 - Maintain Established Rewards

• Paragon 2.0

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1 - Maintain Established Rewards

• WoW Legion Honor System

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1 - Maintain Established Rewards

• Honor system revision

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1 - Maintain Established Rewards

• Rewards can do as much harm as good, it’s important to know when to use them and when not to. If you do use a reward system it’s important to maintain them and not let them fall out from under the player.

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2 - Balance Deterministic and Random

That time we broke the WoWreward structure.

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2 - Balance Deterministic and Random

• Badge of Justice

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2 - Balance Deterministic and Random

• Karazhan

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2 - Balance Deterministic and Random

• Serpentshrine Cavern

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2 - Balance Deterministic and Random

• Sunwell

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2 - Balance Deterministic and Random

• Wrath of the Lich King

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2 - Balance Deterministic and Random

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2 - Balance Deterministic and Random

• It would be cool if I could buy my sets from the vendor instead of waiting for rng.

– Moved class sets, the most iconic and powerful items, to vendors.

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Balance Deterministic and Random

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2 - Balance Deterministic and Random

• Warforged items• Bonus rolls

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2 - Balance Deterministic and Random

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2 - Balance Deterministic and Random

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2 - Balance Deterministic and Random

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2 - Balance Deterministic and Random

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2 - Balance Deterministic and Random

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2 - Balance Deterministic and Random

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2 - Balance Deterministic and Random

• Determinstic and random rewards both have different strengths and weaknesses. Know which one will deliver the player experience you want.

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3 - Make Everything Feel Overpowered

How I learned to stop worrying about balance and start focusing on the fun.

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3 - Make Everything Feel Overpowered

• WoW and the cost of balance

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3 - Make Everything Feel Overpowered

• Items became math problems

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3 - Make Everything Feel Overpowered

• D3 item evolution

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3 - Make Everything Feel Overpowered

• Reaper of Souls development

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3 - Make Everything Feel Overpowered

• Brainstorms based on fantasy

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3 - Make Everything Feel Overpowered

• Focus moved away from mathematically good to strong fantasy

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3 - Make Everything Feel Overpowered

• Legion development

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3 - Make Everything Feel Overpowered

• Artifact weapons

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3 - Make Everything Feel Overpowered

• Legendary items

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3 - Make Everything Feel Overpowered

• It is more important to players to feel awesome than for balance to be perfect.

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4 - Be Generous

How I stopped worrying about giving players too much loot.

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4 - Be Generous

• WoW 40 man raids

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4 - Be Generous

• Burning Crusade raids

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4 - Be Generous

• Karazhan 10 man raid

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4 - Be Generous

• World quests

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4 - Be Generous

• Mythic+ Dungeons

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4 - Be generous

• Reaper of Souls beta

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4 - Be Generous

• Reaper of Souls launch

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4 - Be Generous

• D3 anniversary event

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4 - Be Generous

• Reaper of Souls

– Stopped getting feedback about “Can’t find cool items”

– Started getting feedback of “Trying to find better version of my cool item”

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4 - Be Generous

• Added Ancient items

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4 - Be Generous

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4 - Be Generous

• Introduced Season

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4 - Be Generous

• No design is perfect, you will always have problems to solve. We found it was better to solve the problems caused by players having everything they want, than to solve the problems of players being frustrated they couldn’t find cool stuff.

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