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REDHILL AERODROME CONSULTATIVE COMMITTEE Minutes of the meeting of the Consultative Committee held at Redhill Aerodrome on Wednesday the 10 th January 2018 at 10.00 a.m. PRESENT: Mr. Terry Pollard - Chairman Councillor Jim Blackmore - Salfords and Sidlow Parish Council Mr. Don Butler - Private Operator Councillor Wayne Clark - Salfords & Sidlow Parish Council Mr. Ian Frow - Outwood Parish Council Councillor Mrs. Pat Glenn - Bletchingley Parish Council Mr. Chris Hoskins - Nutfield Conservation Society Councillor Bevan Hubery - Godstone Parish Council Councillor John Johnson - Nutfield Parish Council Mr. David Lindsay - Redhill Aerodrome Limited Mr. Mike Murray - RAVL Mr. Paul Murray - KRAG Councillor Paul Potter - Mole Valley District Council Mr. Nicholas Rehbein - EBG Helicopters Councillor Mrs. Debbie Vickers - Tandridge District Council Mr. Philip Wright - Redhill Aerodrome Limited IN ATTENDANCE: Julie Porter - Tandridge District Council (Secretary to the Committee) 1. CHAIRMAN’S WELCOME The Chairman welcomed Mr. David Lindsay, who had been appointed the new Managing Director of Redhill Aerodrome. Mr. Lindsay gave an overview of his background and previous experience in the Royal Navy and MOD. Mr. Chris Hoskins, on behalf of the Committee, thanked Ann Bartaby for the work she carried out at the Aerodrome and wished her well for the future. 2. MINUTES OF THE MEETING HELD ON THE 13 TH SEPTEMBER 2017 The Minutes of the meeting held on the 13th September 2017 were agreed, subject to the following amendment: Minute 1 – Chairman’s Welcome Mr. Hoskins asked for clarification on Mr. Mike Murray’s position within RAVL. In response Mr. Murray explained that he was a development consultant to RAVL, who had been -1-

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  • REDHILL AERODROME CONSULTATIVE COMMITTEE Minutes of the meeting of the Consultative Committee held at Redhill Aerodrome on Wednesday the 10th January 2018 at 10.00 a.m. PRESENT:

    Mr. Terry Pollard - Chairman Councillor Jim Blackmore - Salfords and Sidlow Parish Council Mr. Don Butler - Private Operator Councillor Wayne Clark - Salfords & Sidlow Parish Council Mr. Ian Frow - Outwood Parish Council Councillor Mrs. Pat Glenn - Bletchingley Parish Council Mr. Chris Hoskins - Nutfield Conservation Society Councillor Bevan Hubery - Godstone Parish Council Councillor John Johnson - Nutfield Parish Council Mr. David Lindsay - Redhill Aerodrome Limited Mr. Mike Murray - RAVL Mr. Paul Murray - KRAG Councillor Paul Potter - Mole Valley District Council Mr. Nicholas Rehbein - EBG Helicopters Councillor Mrs. Debbie Vickers - Tandridge District Council Mr. Philip Wright - Redhill Aerodrome Limited

    IN ATTENDANCE: Julie Porter - Tandridge District Council (Secretary to the Committee) 1. CHAIRMAN’S WELCOME

    The Chairman welcomed Mr. David Lindsay, who had been appointed the new Managing Director of Redhill Aerodrome. Mr. Lindsay gave an overview of his background and previous experience in the Royal Navy and MOD. Mr. Chris Hoskins, on behalf of the Committee, thanked Ann Bartaby for the work she carried out at the Aerodrome and wished her well for the future.

    2. MINUTES OF THE MEETING HELD ON THE 13TH SEPTEMBER

    2017 The Minutes of the meeting held on the 13th September 2017 were agreed, subject to the following amendment: Minute 1 – Chairman’s Welcome Mr. Hoskins asked for clarification on Mr. Mike Murray’s position within RAVL. In response Mr. Murray explained that he was a development consultant to RAVL, who had been

    -1-

  • nominated by RAVL to attend the meeting. He confirmed that he was not part of the developers Thakeham. Minute 3 – Development Works update The Cost of the infrastructure was also discussed and concerns were raised at the lack of detailed costings which to date had not been developed. Mr. Hoskins queried the sum of £150 million stated by Mr Mike Murray to be Thakeham’s estimate on infrastructure costs, including the proposed motorway junction and link road. Various members stated that they felt that this was underestimated. In response Mr. Mike Murray explained that it was early stages of the process and it had not been possible to provide more detailed costings at this stage.

    3. MATTERS ARISING FROM THE PREVIOUS MINUTES

    Residents Meeting with NPAS and Air Ambulance

    At its meeting on the 13th September an action was agreed to arrange a meeting between helicopter pilots/users and affected residents. Cllr John Johnson had asked for an update on when this meeting would take place. Mr Wright responded by explaining it had been difficult to get a date arranged with the Air Ambulance. It was hoped that now they had moved into their new building he would arrange the meeting for February 2018.

    4. MONITORING REPORTS FROM REDHILL AERODROME

    Reports for the period September 2017 to December 2017 were submitted regarding:

    (i) aircraft movements (ii) movements outside Air Traffic Control (ATC) hours (iii) complaints (13) about fixed wing aircraft overflying properties (iv) complaints (9) about helicopters overflying properties.

    *** The statistics were reported into monthly figures, as previously requested. These reports are reproduced at Appendix ‘A’ (page 3).

    Mr. Wright presented the report and explained that the fixed wing movements had increased

    towards the last part of the year, however, helicopter movements continued to decline. This was attributed to the fact that there was only one Helicopter flying company now based at the Aerodrome.

    The complaints had been similar to previous quarters and work would continue with the

    Emergency services to try to resolve some of these complaints. Paul Murray enquired about the recent press release surrounding EU flight regulations and

    the impact on flying movements. Mr Wright explained the impact of the regulations and updated the committee on the planned meeting with the CAA and Gatwick (NATS) to work towards some procedures to address the changes. He went on to explain that Emergency Services helicopters had exemptions to these regulations in order that they may carry out their taskings.

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  • Cllr Blackmore asked why 8-9% of all movements were out of hours. Mr. Wright confirmed that with the nature of the work the emergency services carried out, unfortunately more incidents occurred at night. He also explained that in the Winter months the Aerodrome closed at 5pm not 7pm.

    5. DEVELOPMENT WORKS UPDATE

    Mike Murray circulated the Vision Statement for the proposed new garden community. When asked if the Parish Council’s could get copies of the brochure, Mr. Murray explained that the clerks had contact details for Thakeham’s communications company – ‘Meeting Place communications’ and could contact them to obtain a copy. He suggested that the Parish Councils had been contacted at the beginning of January 2018. Paul Murray asked for clarification on what Mr. Murrays role was within RAVL. Mike Murray referred the Committee to the minutes of the previous meeting (13th September 2017). Discussions took place surrounding the proposed Highway infrastructure. It was explained that there were no proposals to ‘stop up’ any highways. Cllr Frow reiterated the importance of the new junction on the M23 to the success of building any development on the site. Councillor Potter asked how much of the development would be allocated to social housing. It was explained that the number of houses was not known, however it would be compliant with the current planning policy. He also enquired as to why the Helipad was not situated next to the hospital in the suggested plan. Mr. Wright explained that most of the air ambulance work did not take patients to East Surrey Hospital and that the Air ambulance was a charity not affiliated to the hospital. The works due to take place on the M23 to turn junctions 8 to 10 into a ‘smart motorway’ were discussed. It was understood that following any major works to such a road a purdah period of 5 years would be in place to prevent any further work or disruption. Mike Murray suggested that this was usually the case, however there could be exceptions to these rules. He went on to say there were no plans to link any railway routes into the development, other than running a bus service from the existing railway at Redhill. Cllr Vickers stated that she appreciated that Mr. Lindsay was new to the role, but asked for a more detailed update of outstanding planning applications at the next Committee meeting in April. Mr. Lindsay agreed to provide an update and made it clear to the Committee that his role was to manage the day to day business of the Aerodrome and develop the business so that it made a profit. He was asked whether he felt it was making a profit, to which he acknowledged that significant investment had been spent on improving the site, but concluded that it was making a profit.

    6. DATE OF FUTURE MEETINGS Future meetings (all commencing at 10.00am) were scheduled as follows:

    Ordinary meetings Wednesday 18th April 2018 Wednesday 19th September 2018 Annual Meeting

    Saturday 9th June 2018 at 10.00am – Redhill Aerodrome Business Centre Rising: 10.51 a.m.

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