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David Wallace Philosophy Department, University of Southern California Black Hole Initiative, May 9 th 2017 Questions for Black Hole evaporation from Quantum Statistical Mechanics

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David WallacePhilosophy Department, University of Southern

CaliforniaBlack Hole Initiative, May 9th 2017

Questions for Black Hole evaporation from Quantum Statistical Mechanics

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David WallacePhilosophy Department, University of Southern

CaliforniaBlack Hole Initiative, May 9th 2017

Thermally Typical Black Holes

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Black hole thermodynamics

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Black hole thermodynamics Formally analogous?

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Black hole thermodynamics Formally analogous? Classical black hole thermodynamics

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Black hole thermodynamics Formally analogous? Classical black hole thermodynamics

Thermodynamical systems in the full sense?

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Black hole thermodynamics Formally analogous? Classical black hole thermodynamics

Thermodynamical systems in the full sense? Hawking radiation

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Black hole thermodynamics Formally analogous? Classical black hole thermodynamics

Thermodynamical systems in the full sense? Hawking radiation Bekenstein bound from QFT

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Black hole thermodynamics Formally analogous? Classical black hole thermodynamics

Thermodynamical systems in the full sense? Hawking radiation Bekenstein bound from QFT

Statistical mechanical systems?

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Black hole thermodynamics Formally analogous? Classical black hole thermodynamics

Thermodynamical systems in the full sense? Hawking radiation Bekenstein bound from QFT

Statistical mechanical systems? Saddle-point calculations via Euclidean action

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Black hole thermodynamics Formally analogous? Classical black hole thermodynamics

Thermodynamical systems in the full sense? Hawking radiation Bekenstein bound from QFT

Statistical mechanical systems? Saddle-point calculations via Euclidean action Qualitative and (some) quantitative derivations of entropy in

string theory and other approaches to quantum gravity

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Black hole thermodynamics Formally analogous? Classical black hole thermodynamics

Thermodynamical systems in the full sense? Hawking radiation Bekenstein bound from QFT

Statistical mechanical systems? Saddle-point calculations via Euclidean action Qualitative and (some) quantitative derivations of entropy in

string theory and other approaches to quantum gravity AdS/CFT

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The membrane paradigm

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The membrane paradigm Treat a black hole as a quantum system on the “stretched

horizon”, just outside the event horizon

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The membrane paradigm Treat a black hole as a quantum system on the “stretched

horizon”, just outside the event horizon Black hole radiation is ordinary thermal radiation from this

stretched horizon

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The membrane paradigm Treat a black hole as a quantum system on the “stretched

horizon”, just outside the event horizon Black hole radiation is ordinary thermal radiation from this

stretched horizon Late-time radiation is entangled with early-time radiation

(just as in ordinary thermal cooling) so that evolution remains unitary

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Atmosphere of a black hole

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Quantum mechanics of the interiorPenrose diagram for gravitational collapse (Heisenberg picture)

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Black hole complementarity

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Black hole complementarity Quantum description of the black hole interior is a

redescription of / is dual to exterior degrees of freedom

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Black hole complementarity Quantum description of the black hole interior is a

redescription of / is dual to exterior degrees of freedom Most obvious interpretation: degrees of freedom on the

stretched horizon (holography again)

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Black hole complementarity Quantum description of the black hole interior is a

redescription of / is dual to exterior degrees of freedom Most obvious interpretation: degrees of freedom on the

stretched horizon (holography again) The AMPS paradox (Almheiri, Marolf, Polchinski, Sully):

someone falling into black hole at sufficiently late times can see both copies of the quantum state

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Firewalls! At least at late times, observer

crossing the horizon encounters a large amount of Planck-scale energy

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Firewalls! At least at late times, observer

crossing the horizon encounters a large amount of Planck-scale energy

Prevents the AMPS paradox

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Firewalls! At least at late times, observer

crossing the horizon encounters a large amount of Planck-scale energy

Prevents the AMPS paradox Natural consequence of no

entanglement between interior/exterior

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Firewalls! At least at late times, observer

crossing the horizon encounters a large amount of Planck-scale energy

Prevents the AMPS paradox Natural consequence of no

entanglement between interior/exterior

Some evidence that firewalls are typical in AdS black holes (Marulf/Wolf)

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Why not firewalls?

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Why not firewalls? Undermines original

argument for Hawking radiation

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Why not firewalls? Undermines original

argument for Hawking radiation

Physics just outside horizon seems perfectly well-behaved (and horizons aren’t even local)

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Choice of exterior quantum stateBoulware vacuum – static observers see no radiation

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Choice of exterior quantum stateBoulware vacuum – static observers see no radiationSingular on past and future horizons

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Choice of exterior quantum stateUnruh vacuum – static observers see outgoing radiation at the Hawking temperature

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Choice of exterior quantum stateUnruh vacuum – static observers see outgoing radiation at the Hawking temperature. Singular on past horizon, regular on future

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Choice of exterior quantum stateHartle-Hawking “vacuum” – static observers see outgoing and incoming radiation at the Hawking temperature

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Choice of exterior quantum stateHartle-Hawking “vacuum” – static observers see outgoing and incoming radiation at the Hawking temperatureRegular on both horizons

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Form of horizon singularity

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Form of horizon singularity “Lenny Susskind has emphasized to me however that one can attempt a “strictly

exterior” calculation of the entropy and temperature by arguing that quantum fields outside the horizon have a large backreaction in the Schwarzschild geometry if we put them at a temperature other than TH … if we are willing to allow large backreaction right at the horizon in the form of a firewall, why shouldn’t we also allow it further out in the atmosphere?” (Harlow, arXiv:1409.1231v4)

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Form of horizon singularity “Lenny Susskind has emphasized to me however that one can attempt a “strictly

exterior” calculation of the entropy and temperature by arguing that quantum fields outside the horizon have a large backreaction in the Schwarzschild geometry if we put them at a temperature other than TH … if we are willing to allow large backreaction right at the horizon in the form of a firewall, why shouldn’t we also allow it further out in the atmosphere?” (Harlow, arXiv:1409.1231v4)

Answer (I take it): we need self-consistency. We must have

Gab = 8 π G < Tab >

at least approximately

(There might be other quantum objects which deviate from Schwarzschild metric far from horizon, but we’re interested in these objects)

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Irreversibility of black hole formation

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Irreversibility of black hole formation Entropy of a star: ~1058 J/K

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Irreversibility of black hole formation Entropy of a star: ~1058 J/K Entropy of a solar-mass black hole: ~ 1077 J/K

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Irreversibility of black hole formation Entropy of a star: ~1058 J/K Entropy of a solar-mass black hole: ~ 1077 J/K Number of (orthogonal) microstates of microstate with

entropy S is exp(kBS)

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Irreversibility of black hole formation Entropy of a star: ~1058 J/K Entropy of a solar-mass black hole: ~ 1077 J/K Number of (orthogonal) microstates of microstate with

entropy S is exp(kBS) So black holes produced through astrophysical collapse

processes are highly atypical from a statistical-mechanics viewpoint

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Making and unmaking a thermally typical black hole

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Making and unmaking a thermally typical black hole Compress a Planck mass of radiation to a Planck volume to

get a Planck-mass black hole

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Making and unmaking a thermally typical black hole Compress a Planck mass of radiation to a Planck volume to

get a Planck-mass black hole Seal in a box of radiation at just slightly higher temperature

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Making and unmaking a thermally typical black hole Compress a Planck mass of radiation to a Planck volume to

get a Planck-mass black hole Seal in a box of radiation at just slightly higher temperature Continuously expand the box and lower the temperature,

keeping it just above the black hole temperature

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Making and unmaking a thermally typical black hole Compress a Planck mass of radiation to a Planck volume to

get a Planck-mass black hole Seal in a box of radiation at just slightly higher temperature Continuously expand the box and lower the temperature,

keeping it just above the black hole temperature When you get bored, adjust the temperature to just below the

black hole temperature

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Making and unmaking a thermally typical black hole Compress a Planck mass of radiation to a Planck volume to

get a Planck-mass black hole Seal in a box of radiation at just slightly higher temperature Continuously expand the box and lower the temperature,

keeping it just above the black hole temperature When you get bored, adjust the temperature to just below the

black hole temperature Continuously contract the box and raise the temperature,

keeping it just below the black hole temperature

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Typical black hole spacetime?

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Typical black hole spacetime?

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Typical black hole spacetime?

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Typical black hole spacetime

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Typical black hole spacetime

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Typical black hole spacetimeInterior: naked past singularity?

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Typical black hole spacetimeInterior: naked past singularity? Within-horizon region

already unpredictable?

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Typical black hole spacetimeInterior: naked past singularity? Within-horizon region

already unpredictable? Further timelike

singularities needed to close interior?

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Typical black hole spacetime No interior?

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Conclusions

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Conclusions No assumption about horizon smoothness required to derive

Hawking radiation

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Conclusions No assumption about horizon smoothness required to derive

Hawking radiation For thermally typical black holes (but not astrophysical ones)

it’s somewhat mysterious how to fill in the interior without firewalls

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Conclusions No assumption about horizon smoothness required to derive

Hawking radiation For thermally typical black holes (but not astrophysical ones)

it’s somewhat mysterious how to fill in the interior without firewalls

Gives some tentative support to interior-reconstruction scenarios that work only in atypical cases