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CompanyName:QuestDiagnosticsIncCompanyTicker:DGXSector:HealthCareIndustry:HealthServices
EventDescription:Q42015EarningsCallMarketCapasofEventDate:9.49BPriceasofEventDate:64.15
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QuestDiagnostics(DGX)EarningsReport:Q42015ConferenceCallTranscriptThefollowingQuestDiagnosticsconferencecalltookplaceonJanuary28,2016,08:30AMET.Thisisatranscriptofthatearningscall:
CompanyPart icipants
DanHaemmerle;QuestDiagnosticsIncorporated;ExecutiveDirectorofIRSteveRusckowski;QuestDiagnosticsIncorporated;PresidentCEOMarkGuinan;QuestDiagnosticsIncorporated;SVPCFO
OtherPart icipants
RickyGoldwasser;MorganStanley;AnalystMitchellPetersen;BarclaysCapital;AnalystLisaGill;JPMorgan;AnalystJasonPlagman;Jefferies&Co.;AnalystA.J.Rice;UBS;AnalystNickJansen;RaymondJames&AssociatesInc.;AnalystBillQuirk;PiperJaffray&Co.;AnalystJoelKaufman;GoldmanSachs;AnalystElizabethBlake;BofAMerrillLynch;AnalystDonaldHooker;KeyBankCapitalMarkets;AnalystBillBonello;Craig-HallumCapitalGroup;AnalystAmandaMurphy;WilliamBlair&Company;AnalystMichaelCherny;EvercoreISI;Analyst
MANAGEMENTDISCUSSIONSECTION
Operator :
WelcometotheQuestDiagnosticsfourth-quarterandfull-year2015conferencecall.
Atthistime,attherequestoftheCompanythiscallisbeingrecorded.Theentirecontentofthecall,includingthepresentationandquestion-and-answersessionthatwillfollow,arethecopyrightedpropertyofQuestDiagnosticswithallrightsreserved.Anyredistribution,retransmission,orrebroadcastofthiscallinanyformwithouttheexpresswrittenconsentofQuestDiagnosticsisstrictlyprohibited.
NowI'dliketointroduceDanHaemmerle,ExecutiveDirectorofInvestorRelationsforQuestDiagnostics.Goahead,please.
DanHaemmerle (ExecutiveDirectorofIR):
Thankyou.Goodmorning.I'mherewithSteveRusckowski,ourPresidentandChiefExecutiveOfficer,andMarkGuinan,ourChiefFinancialOfficer.
Duringthiscall,wemaymakeforward-lookingstatementsandalsodiscussnon-GAAPmeasures.Actualresultsmaydiffermateriallyfromthoseprojected.RisksanduncertaintiesthatmayaffectQuestDiagnostics'futureresultsinclude,butarenotlimitedto,thosedescribedinQuestDiagnostics'2014
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annualreportonForm10-K,quarterlyreportsonForm10-Q,andcurrentreportsonForm8-K.Ourearningspressreleaseisavailable,andthetextofourpreparedremarkswillbeavailablelatertodayintheInvestorRelationsQuarterlyUpdatessectionofourwebsiteatwww.QuestDiagnostics.com.APowerPointpresentationandspreadsheetwithourresultsandsupplementalanalysisarealsoavailableonthewebsite.
Now,here'sSteveRusckowski.
SteveRusckowski(PresidentCEO):
Thanks,Dan,andthanks,everyone,forjoiningtoday.ThismorningI'llprovideyouwithhighlightsofthequarter,shareafewcommentsonindustrydynamics,andreviewprogressonourfive-pointstrategy.ThenMarkwillprovidemoredetailontheresultsandtakeyouthroughguidance.
Well,wecontinuedtomakeprogressonourpathforward,deliveringastrongyearandpositioningourselvesverywellfor2016.Beforeturningtothequarter,letmerecapourperformancefortheyear.
Revenuesgrewby2%onanequivalentbasis.Adjustedoperatingincomeasapercentageofrevenuesexpandedbyabout110basispoints,andadjustedEPS,excludingamortization,grewby6%.
Duringthefourthquarter,revenueswere$1.85billion,growingby60basispointsonanequivalentbasis.AdjustedEPS,excludingamortization,was$1.19,andthisrepresentsourseventhconsecutivequarterofyear-on-yearEPSgrowth.
BeforeIgetintoourstrategyupdateI'dliketotalkaboutourindustrydynamics,startingwiththerecentCMSproposalrelatedtothePAMAlegislation,whichasyouknowstandsforProtectingAccesstoMedicareAct.Asyouhaveheardmesaybefore,PAMAneedstobebuiltonarepresentativeviewofthemarket.Thecurrentproposallimitsthedefinitionofanapplicablelabtoexcludealargeportionofthemarket.
Wealsobelievethata2017effectivedatewillbeasignificantchallengeforallparties.WithstrongsupportfromtheAmericanHospitalAssociation,theAmericanMedicalAssociation,andmembersofCongress,weremainoptimisticthattogetherindustryandgovernmentcanstillachieveareasonableoutcome.
Second,IwouldliketodiscusstheproposedFDAguidanceonregulationoflaboratory-developedtests.WeunderstandtheFDA'sconcerns,butwecontinuetobelievewhattheFDAhasproposedwouldresultinlabsbeingsubjecttobothCLIAandFDAregulationsthatmaybeoverlapping,duplicative,andsometimescontradictoryintheirrequirements.Thishasthepotentialtoraisehealthcarecostsforpatientsandpotentiallyhindermedicalinnovation.
TheHousedraftlegislationisagoodfirststepinthelegislativeprocess.WeshareACLA'sgoalsofpromotingandsupportingdiagnosticinnovationsthatprovidephysicianswiththeinsightsnecessarytoadvancepatientcareandsavelives.WewanttoworkwithCongresstogettherightbalanceinlegislation:rightfortheindustry,rightforphysicians,andrightforpatientswhodependuponourdiagnosticinsightstomakeinformedhealthcaredecisionseveryday.
Nowletmeshifttotheprogresswe'remakingonourfive-pointstrategy,whichistorestoregrowth,driveoperationalexcellence,simplifytheorganization,refocusonourDiagnosticInformationServicesbusiness,anddeliverdisciplinedcapitaldeployment.Startingwithgrowth,justthreeyearsagothisbusinesswasshrinkingbymorethan4%.Weslowedtheorganicdeclineto2%in2014andhavenowgrownorganicallyonanequivalentbasisforthefifthconsecutivequarter.
Wegrew2015full-yearrevenuesby2%onanequivalentbasis,andwearewellpositionedfor2016.Our
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gene-basedandesoterictestingbusinessgrewbyapproximately5%to$1.8billionfortheyear.Wecontinuetoseestronggrowthinourinfectiousdiseasetestingandprescriptiondrugmonitoring.
Additionally,inlate2015welaunchedtwocompaniondiagnosticssolutionsfornon-smallcelllungcancer.Thisweekweannouncedanothercomplementarydiagnostictestformelanoma.
Quest'sexpertise,scale,andcollaborationswithtoporganizationssuchasDakoandBristol-MyersSquibbpositionustoprovidecompanionandcomplementarydiagnostictestservicesforimmunotherapiesonascaleotherproviderscan'tmatch.Weareencouragedbytheprogressofourclinicalfranchiseteamsandexpecttocontinuetobuildmomentumgoingforward.
Second,overthepastfewyearswehaveoutlinedourstrategytopartnermoreeffectivelywithhospitalsystems.Wehavesharedourviewthathospitalswilllooktopartnerwithustodevelopandexecutetheirlabstrategy.
InNovemberweannouncedtheacquisitionofHartfordHealthCare'soutreachbusiness.Wehavebeenworkingondetailedintegrationplansandnowexpecttherelationshiptocloselaterinthefirstquarterof2016.
InDecember,weannouncedaprofessionallabservicesrelationshipwithBarnabasHealth,NewJersey'snumber-onehealthsystem.UnderthisrelationshipwewillmanageinpatientlaboratorytestservicesforsevenoftheirlocationsthroughoutNewJersey.Wearecurrentlyworkingthroughthetransitionplans.Weexpectclinicaltestingvolumestobefullytransitionedbymidyear2016.
Thesearetwostrongproofpointsofourevolvingmarketwherehospitalsarelookingforhigh-valueworld-classpartners.Wecontinuetobeencouragedbytherobustpipelineofopportunitieswehavedeveloped.
Inaddition,wearebuildingourportfolioofhealthinformationtechnologysolutions.Ourcapabilitieshelppayers,providers,andpatientstoimprovepatientcare,loweringcosttomanagepopulations.We'rerollingoutournewsuiteofsolutionscalled[Quantum]internallytooursalesforcethisweek.
AgoodexampleofQuantum'ssolutionisourrecentpartnershipwithInovalontodeliverreal-timeinsightsatthepointofcare,whichwecallDataDiagnostics.WelaunchedthissolutioninDecember,areseeingstronginterest,andhavealreadybeguntosignbusiness.
Weareveryencouragedbytheopportunity.You'llhearmoreaboutourDataDiagnosticsandourQuantumsolutionlaterthisquarteratHIMSS.
Thesecondelementinourstrategyisdrivingoperationalexcellence.AtourInvestorDayinNovember2014,weoutlinedourgoaltoincreaseourcumulativerun-ratesavingsto$1.3billionbytheendof2017.Toachievethat,weneededtodeliveranadditional$600millioninrun-ratesavingsbytheendof2017,andwe'vemadeprogressonourmajorobjectivesofourprogram,whichincludebuildinge-enablingservices;standardizingourprocesses,data,andsystems;andimprovingcashcollections.
Wedeliveredover$200millioninrealizedsavingsin2015.Thisenabledustodeliver10%growthinpretaxearningsfortheyearaswecontinuetomoveclosertoourInvigorategoalof$1.3billion.
Now,we'redoingallthisasweimproveourcustomerexperience,atthesametimethatwelowerourcostsbyremovingwastefromthesystem.Wecontinuetosimplifyandstrengthenourorganization,whichisthethirdelementofourstrategy.
Duringtheyear,welaunchedournewbrandpromise.WecallitActionfromInsight.Ourbrandpromisesmorethanarefreshedlogo;it'sreallyaboutrecommittingtoasuperiorcustomerexperience.
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WerecentlylaunchedEverydayExcellence,anewinitiativethatfocusesonourcustomers.We'vealreadyrolleditouttomorethanone-thirdofourworkforce.
Butit'snotjustaboutourfront-lineemployees.EverydayExcellenceisforallofus,allofouremployees,anditstartswithme.
We'vealsoinvestedandtrainedover150seniorleadersatourLeadingQuestAcademy.Andwe'vedeployedourQuestmanagementsystemstocreateastandardframeworkforrunningourbusiness.
Our44,000employeesarekeytooursuccess.Actually,inarecentcompanywidesurveyweexperiencedarecordrateofengagementfromouremployees,andtheresultsputusonparoraboveperformanceofhigh-performingcompaniesinseveralkeyareas.
Thereisaclearlinkbetweenemployeeengagementandperformanceatthemostsuccessfulcompanies.Ouremployeesareprovidinguswithvaluablefeedback,andwearelistening.OnarecentvisittoourfacilitiesinCalifornia,aswithsomanyvisitswithouroperations,Icameawaybothimpressedandgratefulforouremployees'passionandcommitmenttoourcustomers.
ThefourthelementofourstrategyistorefocusonourDiagnosticInformationServicesbusiness.Duringtheyear,wecontributedourclinicaltrialstestingbusinessintothenewlyformedjointventurewithQuintilescalledQSquaredSolutions.TheJV'sperformanceisontrackwithourexpectations,andwe'reexcitedtobepartofthisgrowingbusiness.
Thenfinally,weremaincommittedtothefifthelementofourstrategy,deliveringdisciplinedcapitaldeployment.In2015wereturnedover$400milliontoourshareholdersthroughacombinationofdividendsandsharebuybacks.Wereturned80%ofourfreecashflowtoshareholdersin2015,wellinexcessofourcommitmenttoreturnthemajorityofourfreecashflowtoourshareholders.
Duringthequarter,weincreasedtheCompany'ssharerepurchaseauthorizationby$500million,andthenearliertodayweannounceda5%increaseinourquarterlydividend.Thisisourfifthdividendincreasesince2011.
Alongwithallthiswecontinuetoinvestinourbusiness.WeannouncedtheHartfordHealthCareoutreachacquisitioninthequarterandclosedtoacquisitionsearlierin2015.TheseacquisitionsarealignedtoourobjectiveofgrowingrevenueswithstrategicallyalignedM&A.
NowMarkwillprovideanoverviewonourfourth-quarterfinancialperformanceandwalkyouthroughthedetailsofour2016outlook,whichconsidersseveraloftherecentlyannouncedrelationshipsInotedearlier.Mark?
MarkGuinan (SVPCFO):
Thanks,Steve.Startingwithrevenues,consolidatedfourth-quarterrevenuesof$1.85billionincreased0.6%versustheprioryearonanequivalentrevenuebasis--thatis,excludingthefourth-quarter2014clinicaltrialsrevenue.Onareportedbasis,revenueswerelowerby1.8%.
RevenuesforDiagnosticInformationServicesgrewby40basispointsversusayearago.Volume,measuredbythenumberofrequisitions,grewby30basispointsversustheprioryear.Volumegrewonanorganicbasisby20basispoints.
Revenueperrequisitionwas10basispointsbetterthantheprioryear.Reimbursementpressurewasmoderateinthequarterandfortheyear,whichisconsistentwithwhatwesharedatourInvestorDayin2014.
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Bothtestandbusinessmixcontinuetohavenetpositiveimpact,reflectingourstrategytogrowouresoterictestinganddriveprofitablegrowth.
Adjustedoperatingincomeforthequarterwas$288millionor15.5%ofrevenues,comparedto$283millionor15%ofrevenuesayearago.Theimprovementof50basispointscanbeprimarilyattributedtoefficienciesfromourInvigorateprogramandbusinessmix.
Forthequarter,adjustedearningspershareexcludingamortizationwas$1.19,or80basispointsbetterthanayearago.Fourth-quarter2015reportedincomefromcontinuingoperationsincludesanetbenefitof$31millionor$0.21persharerelatedtodeferredincometaxbenefitsrecognizedduringthequarter,partiallyoffsetbychargesprimarilyrelatedtorestructuringandintegrationcosts.Inthefourthquarterof2014,reportedincomefromcontinuingoperationsincludedanetbenefitof$27millionor$0.18persharefromthefavorableresolutionoftaxcontingencies,offsetbychargesrelatedprimarilytorestructuringandintegrationcosts.
Baddebtexpenseasapercentageofrevenueswas3.5%,30basispointsbetterthanlastyearand40basispointsbetterthanlastquarter.Thisisprimarilyduetoaone-timebaddebtbenefitinthefourthquarter.
Itremainsachallengingcollectionenvironment,andweremainfocusedonimprovingouroperationalactivities.OurDSOswere47days,onedaylowerthantheprioryearandthreedayshigherthanlastquarter.
Reportedcashprovidedbyoperationswas$271millioninthefourthquarterof2015,comparedto$303millioninthefourthquarterof2014.Cashprovidedbyoperationswaslowerthanayearagolargelyduetoanadditionalpayrollcyclethisyear.Excludingthenetcashchargesrelatedtotherecentdebtrefinancing,adjustedcashprovidedbyoperationswas$899millionforthefull-year2015.
Capitalexpenditureswere$94millioninthequarter,comparedto$89millionayearago.Totalcapitalexpendituresin2015were$263million.
Beforemovingtoguidance,I'llshareafewcommentstohelpyouthinkaboutouroutlook.First,afewofyourecentlyaskedaboutthe8%to10%earningsCAGRsharedatourInvestorDayin2014.Reflectingon2015,wedelivered6%adjustedearnings,excludingamortization.
Keepinmindthatthecomparein2015wasnegativelyimpactedbyamortizationandadiscretetaxbenefitin2014.Thesetwoitemsreducedourreportedearningsgrowthbyabout2%,mostlybecausewebeatour2014estimateby$0.05.Takingtheseitemsintoconsideration,wefeelweareontrackcomparedtoourobjectivesoutlinedatInvestorDayin2014.
Second,becauseofthenewreformedQSquaredSolutionsJV,wenolongerconsolidatetheclinicaltrialsrevenue.Ourclinicaltrialsbusinessreportedrevenuesof$85millioninthefirsthalfof2015thatyoushouldconsiderasyouupdateyourmodel.
Finally,asyouthinkaboutourrevenueprojections,wehavebeenonafavorabletrajectory,butonethathasbeenbuildingovertime.Weexpectthatwewillcontinuetoshowimprovementasweprogressthroughtheyear.Specifically,youshouldconsidertheBarnabasHealthopportunitythatwillphaseinoverthefirsthalfoftheyearandtherecentlyannouncedoutreachacquisitionwhichweexpecttobecompletedlateinthefirstquarter.
Movingtoguidance,wenowexpectfull-year2016resultsbeforespecialitemsasfollows.Revenuesareexpectedtobebetween$7.52billionand$7.59billion,anincreaseof1.5%to2.5%onanequivalentbasis.Forcomparativepurposes,equivalentrevenueswillexcludethe2015revenuesassociatedwithour
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clinicaltrialsbusiness.
AdjusteddilutedEPS,excludingamortization,tobebetween$5.02and$5.17.Cashprovidedbyoperationstoapproach$1billion.Andcapitalexpenditurestobebetween$250millionto$300million.
NowletmeturnitbacktoSteve.
SteveRusckowski(PresidentCEO):
Well,thanks,Mark.Well,webelievewehavetherightstrategytorestoregrowthandbuildvalueforourshareholders.Wedeliveredanothersolidquarterandagoodyear.
We'rebuildingmomentumwithourfocusonadvancedtesting.Hospitalpartnershipsarebuilding,andourexpansionofourhealthinformationsolutionsactivitiesispromising.
WehavenowdeliveredadjustedEPSgrowthfortheseventhconsecutivequarter.Wearewellpositionedtodeliveronourcommitmentsfor2016.
Nowwiththat,we'dbehappytotakeanyofyourquestions.
DanHaemmerle (ExecutiveDirectorofIR):
Operator?
QUESTIONS&ANSWERS
Operator :
(OperatorInstructions)
RickyGoldwasser,MorganStanley.
RickyGoldwasser (Analyst-MorganStanley):
Regardingtheunderlyingassumptionsonguidance,obviouslyyouhaveuppedyourbuybackallocationtoover$1billion.
Canyoujustsharewithuswhatislikeyourassumptionsforcapitaldeployment?Areyouassuminganybuybacksnow,andifsolikethemagnitude?
MarkGuinan (SVPCFO):
Yes.Ricky,thankyouforthequestion.Goodmorning.
IntheEPSguidance,itassumesaflatsharecount.Soatthispointdepending,aswealwaystalkabout,thebestvalue-creationopportunitybetweenM&Aandsharebuybacks,wemayendupdeployingmoretowardsbuybacks.Wemayendupreducingthesharecount.
Butatthispoint,EPSguidanceassumesaflatsharecount.
RickyGoldwasser (Analyst-MorganStanley):
Andthetoplineassumessomecapitaldeployment?
MarkGuinan (SVPCFO):
Right.Thetoplineatthispointisbuiltbasedonsomeorganicgrowth,includingtheBarnabasHealth
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deal,andthentheonlyM&AthatwehaveexplicitlyinthereatthispointistheHartfordoutreachacquisition.Butobviouslywegivearange,andsowithinthatrangethere'svariousscenariosbetweenorganicandinorganicgrowth.
RickyGoldwasser (Analyst-MorganStanley):
Okay.CanIhavejustonefollow-up?Justwhenyouthinkaboutliketheearlyhospitalpartnershipsthatyou'vesigned--notthisyearbuttheyearbefore--wethinkaboutitascasestudies.Whattypeofgrowthareyouseeingfromtheselikeearlypartnershipsthatwecanthinkaboutaslikeaframeworkforthenewdealsthatyouhavesignedrecently?
SteveRusckowski(PresidentCEO):
Well,we'rebuildingthebusiness,Ricky,sowithbuildinganybusinessthisispartofourgrowthstrategy,istofocusonthesehospitalpartnerships,andwefindthereceptivityofhospitalsystemsquitepromising.We'vetalkedaboutinthepastwenowhaveanumberofdealsthatarealreadyinourrevenuesin2015.WeannouncedBarnabasinthefourthquarter,sothatwillstarttoshowupin2016.Again,thesearegrowthratesofourorganicrevenuesthatMarktalkedabout.
Thenfinally,aswehaveanicerobustfunnel,moreprospectsin2016.SowebelievethatthisbusinesswillcontinuetobuildandcontributetoourgrowthprospectsfortheCompanygoingforward.Sothat'sthewaywelookatit.
RickyGoldwasser (Analyst-MorganStanley):
Okay,thankyou.
Operator :
JackMeehan,Barclays.
MitchellPetersen (Analyst-BarclaysCapital):
Hi.Thanks.ThisisactuallyMitchellPetersencallinginforJackthismorning.
Lastquarter,Iknowyouguystalkedaboututilizationlevelsandhowtheyarelittlebitweakerin3Qbuttrendingpositively.
Iwaswonderingifyoucouldcalloutthetrendsyou'vebeenseeingonutilizationpercustomerthroughoutthequarter?
SteveRusckowski(PresidentCEO):
Yes,sure.We'vetalkedaboutitinthepast.Wedothistestwherewetakealookatourknownaccountsthatareouraccounts;wehaveabout1,000.Welookatyear-on-yearcomparison.
WedidthatinQ3andwesaidthatvolumespickedupattheendofthequarter.We'vedonethatagaininQ4,andwhatwe'llsayatthistimeiswhenwelookatthatit'sfeelinglikeQ4wasstablewithprioryear.Nonotablechangeinthat,andthat'sthebestinsightwehavearoundutilizationinthemarketthatweserve.
MitchellPetersen (Analyst-BarclaysCapital):
Great,thanks.Thenjustonemorequickone.
Obviously,PAMAcomingupandthenthemarginimpactsfromtheesotericmixshifts.Arethereanyother
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noticeablepricingtrendsthatyou'reseeinginthemarket?
SteveRusckowski(PresidentCEO):
Mark,youwantto--?
MarkGuinan (SVPCFO):
Notrendsperse.Obviouslythere'smixwetalkabout,andthatincludestestmix;italsoincludespayermix.WehavementionedpreviouslythatwehaveseensomegrowthinourMedicaidvolumes,probablymostlikelyinresponsetotheAffordableCareAct,butalsoareductioninouruninsuredmixaswell.
Someofthatwasmorepronouncedseveralquartersago.Iwouldn'tsayrecentlyanyotherthingofnote.
AsIsharedattheInvestorDay,weexpected2016tobemorelike--andin2017aswell--tobemorelike2014.You'veseentheresultsforthepastyear.
Youcanseethattherewassomepricingpressure.Itwasfairlytame,certainlycomparedtoseveralyearsago.AndevenwithPAMAwe'restillconfidentthatthrough2017there'snotgoingtobeanythingnoteworthy;andaswesaiditshouldbeconsistentwiththelastcoupleyears.
MitchellPetersen (Analyst-BarclaysCapital):
Great.Thankyou.
Operator :
LisaGill,JPMorgan.
LisaGill(Analyst-JPMorgan):
Thankyou.Iwaswonderingifyoucouldmaybejustgiveusanupdate.YoutalkedalittlebitabouttheQuintiles'JVQ2.But,Mark,canyoutelluswhatyouhavebuiltintotheguidancefor2016forthat?
Thenmaybe,Steve,ifyoucanspendaminute,haveyoubeensuccessfulinsigningsomenewdealsunderthenewrelationship?
SteveRusckowski(PresidentCEO):
Sure.
MarkGuinan (SVPCFO):
Yes,sure.Lisa,toansweryourquestiondirectly,I'msureyourecognizednothingontherevenuelinesincewecan'tconsolidate.Ontheearningsline,certainlyaswediscussed,weexpectedtodeliversomesignificantsynergiesthisyearin2016,andIhavethatbuiltintoourguidance.
Wedon'tbreakthatoutspecifically.It'snotlargeenoughorsubstantiveenoughtoprovidespecificdetail.Butthatisconsidered,andwearepleasedandlookingforwardtohavingmoreearningsin2016thanwedidin2015fromclinicaltrials,andthenalsohavingmorethanwethinkwewould'vehadhadwekeptthatbusinessasstandaloneQuest.
SteveRusckowski(PresidentCEO):
Great.Lisa,toyourpointaboutthebusinessprospects,actuallyIwasdownthereearlierthisweekwithQuintiles'managementteam.Asyouknow,westartedthisjointventureQ2Solutionsinthesecondhalf.We'reverypleasedwiththeintegrationthat'sgoneonsofar.
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We'vebuiltanicemanagementteam.Wenowhaveagoodintegrationplan.Wefeelgoodaboutthecadence.
Andinparallelwiththeintegrationwefeelgoodabouttheprospectsthatwe'reseeinginourfunnelandthebusinessthatwe'veretained.We'renotgoingtocommentspecificallyanynewbusiness,butwe'reencouragedaboutthebeginningofthejointventureandtheworkingrelationshipsbetweenbothcompanies.
Betweenbothofus,ourselvesandQuintiles,we'llgiveyoumorecolorasitevolves.Butsofarsogood.
LisaGill(Analyst-JPMorgan):
Isthereanywaytoquantifyanyofthat?Thesizeofthefunnelor--Iknowthatyousaidit'sbiggerthanwhatyouthoughtpreviouslyonyourown.Butjustaswethinkaboutthatasbeingafutureopportunityforyourbusiness,isitsomethingthatcouldbeakeydriverovertime?Oryoujustthinkthisissomethingthat'sasmaller,incrementaldrivertoyourbusiness?
MarkGuinan (SVPCFO):
Ijustwanttorefresheveryone'smemory.Itwas2%ofouroverallrevenues.Whatwesharedatthatpointwasthatitsoperatingmarginwasfairlyrepresentativeoftheoverallenterprise,sonothingmateriallyhigherorlower.
Thereforeyoucanframeaboutwhatthecontributionwas.Weexpectsignificantlylargergrowthonthatthanwecouldhavedoneourselves,butstilloffa2%base.
Sowe'repleasedwithitandcertainlyeverycouplepenniesisnicetohave,butit'snotgoingtobeagame-changeroverall.ButasStevesaid,relativetotheexpectationsgoingintothepartnership,we'reverypleasedwiththefirstsixmonthsandlookingforwardto2016.
SteveRusckowski(PresidentCEO):
Sincewedon'tconsolidaterevenueswe'regoingtoseeitbackinourearningsgrowth.Andalotofthatearningsgrowthwillcomefromthecostsynergiesthat'simpliedin--oraportionofit'simpliedinourguidance.
LisaGill(Analyst-JPMorgan):
Okay.That'shelpful.Thankyou.
Operator :
BrianTanquilut,Jefferies.
JasonPlagman (Analyst-Jefferies&Co.):
Hey,guys.ThisisJasonPlagmanonforBrian.Morning.AquestionontheBarnabaspartnershipandthehospitalmanagementsegmentingeneral.Howshouldwethinkaboutthemarginprofileforthatsegmentbothoverthenextyearortwoandthenhowyou'rethinkingaboutitlongerterm?
SteveRusckowski(PresidentCEO):
Well,youknowthewaywelookatthisiswebelievethemarketiscontinuingtolookforpartnerships.Isaidthisinmyopeningcomments.Hospitalsarelookingforpartnerslikeustohelpthemwiththeirlabstrategy.
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Apieceofthisishelpingthemruntheirhospitalbusiness,butalsothinkabouthowwecouldpartnerwiththemintheirmoresophisticatedtesting--whatwerefertoasreferencework.SothenwhenweengagewithclientsorcustomerslikeBarnabasweexpectthatwe'regoingtostartworkingwiththem,andwe'regoingtostartto--continuetobuildtheirbookofbusinesswithus.
Asfarasmargins,whatwe'llsayisthis.We'redrivinggrowthinthisCompanyandwe'redrivingbetterROIC.Andincludedinourguidancearoundgrowthandincludedinourguidancearoundearningsgrowth,wedoexpectthatourbuildofourprofessionallabservicesbusinesswillbeaccretivetoourplangoingforward.
MarkGuinan (SVPCFO):
I'lljustaddthatIhavesharedinthepast,theseprofessionallaboratoryservicesagreementcomewithacoupleofdifferentcomponents,asStevejustlaidout.Certainlythereferencepiece,thosemarginswouldbesimilartoourotherreferencebusinessrelationships.Andtheninsomeofthesecasesthereispartnershipinvolvingoutreachaswell.
OnthePLSpieceitself,whichisfocusedontakingsomeoftheinpatientsandoutpatientsinthehospitaltestingandpartneringwiththemonthatlabwork--whichpreviouslywasunaddressablerevenue,soit'sanewsourceofgrowthforus--thosemarginsarelowerthanouroverallbookofbusinessbecausewehavetosharethevaluecreationwithourpartner.Obviously,whenwegoinit'sasupplyarrangement,andthereforewehavetosaveenoughforuseachtomakeareturn.
However,asStevealsopointedout,sincethereisreallynosignificantcapitaloutlayatthatpoint,theROICisveryattractive.Ialsowanttoemphasizeit'ssomewhatpreviouslyunaddressablerevenues,soanewsourceofgrowth.
SteveRusckowski(PresidentCEO):
Justtocloseonthis,in2015wefeatheredinanumberofPLSdeals,sothey'reinourresults.Ithelpsuswithgrowth;butalsoasyoucanseewithourresultsweexpandedourmarginsby110basispoints.
SoIfeelgoodaboutourprospectsofthispieceofbusinessalongwithotherbusinessesgrowingtheCompanyandalsomakingsurethatwecontinuetodelivergoodreturnoninvestedcapital.
JasonPlagman (Analyst-Jefferies&Co.):
Great.Thanksfortheinsight.
Operator :
A.J.Rice,UBS.
A.J.Rice (Analyst-UBS):
Hi,thanks.Justinitially,I'mtrying--thisissortofabigger-picturequestion.Sotherevenueguidancelooksfor1.5%to2.5%growth.I'mjusttryingtothinkthroughtheputsandtakesandhowtheyrelatetotheunderlyingassumptions.
Obviously,you'vegottheheadwindofthehalfyear,sotherevenuesthatwerecontributedintheQuintilesJV.Alternatively,you'reanniversaryingatthispointsomelossorexitedcontractsthatimpairedgrowthlastyear,aswellasyou'vegottheSt.Barnabasdealrampingup.
SoI'mtryingtogetto:Whatdoyoureallythinktheunderlyingtrendsareintermsofpricing,volume,andanapples-to-applesrevenuecomparison?Anycommentsonthatwouldbehelpful.
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MarkGuinan (SVPCFO):
Firstoff,A.J.--andthankyouforthequestion--the1.5%to2.5%isonwhatwecallanequivalentbasis.Sothatdoesnotincludetheheadwindsfromclinicaltrials.Thisisexcludingthat.
Sothebusinessesthatwecontinuetohaveorwillbeadding,suchastheHartfordacquisitionornewpartnershipslikeBarnabas,areincludedinthat.Butthatexcludestheimpactofthe$85millioninthefirsthalf.
Aswelookatit,wetalkedabouttheprice;andweexpectpricein2016tohavesomemodestheadwinds.Andthenmix,obviously,wedidn'tgettothatspecifically,butwewouldn'texpectamateriallydifferenttrendthanwhatyousawthrough2015.
Wecontinuetogrowouresotericbusiness;wementioned5%growthinQ4.Wecontinuetofocusonourmostprofitablebusinessopportunities.Wehavecleanedupourportfolio,whichcertainlyyou'reseeingsomeofthatbenefitintermsofourcustomers;andasweengagewithnewcustomerswe'reveryfocusedonmakingsurethatwegetthevaluethatwedeliverthroughourpricing.
Sothat'sreallytheoverallcommentary.Iwouldsaythe1.5%to2.5%isacombinationoforganicgrowthandwe'vehadfivestraightquartersofrevenue.Wementionedwehadsomevolumeorganicgrowthinthisquarterandanimprovingtrendthroughout2016.
A.J.Rice (Analyst-UBS):
Okay,that'sgreat.ThenmaybejustfollowinguponSteve'scommentaroundtheLDTquestionandtheFDA.Itseemslikethere'stwodynamicsgoingon.Congressisworkingwiththeindustrytotrytocomeupwithsomeparametersaroundwhatmighthappenthere,andthenyouoccasionallyhavethesesalvosoutoftheFDAsuggestingthattheymaymoveaheadwithguidancearoundit.
Canyougiveusanyflavor?Imean,isthereanydialoguewiththeFDA?Doyougetanysenseofwhetherthey'regoingtostanddownandletCongressmoveforward?Orarethey--doyouhaveanysenseofwhatthey'redoing?
SteveRusckowski(PresidentCEO):
Yes.Thanks,A.J.Firstofall,asyouknow,ourpositionasanindustryistheFDAdoesnothavestatutoryauthoritytoregulatelaboratories.We'reinthebusinessofmedicineandapplyingadeviceregulationtoourindustrydoesn'tmakesense,andit'sduplicativewithwhatwealreadyhavewithCLIA.Sothatremainsourposition.
Nowwithallthatsaid,asanindustrywealsobelievethatalegislativeactionorprocessisthebestsolutiontothis.We'reencouragedwithwhat'sbeenproposedfromCongressasagoodstart.Sowe'reengagingwithCongressontheirproposedlegislation;we'redoingthiswithotherstakeholders.
AsfarastheFDAinvolvementinthis,ItrustCongressandtheirteamandalsowiththeworkinourtradeassociation.WehaveengagedwiththeFDAaswelltoseeifwecancomeupwithareasonablesolutionofwhattheyaretryingtoaccomplishwhileatthesametimeaddresstheissueswe'reconcernedabout.
Sowe'reworking.Wethinkthelegislativeactionisthebestactionforus,andthatwouldbemuchbetterthanthecurrentguidancethatwe'veseensofarfromtheFDA.
A.J.Rice (Analyst-UBS):
Okay.Thanksalot.
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NickJansen,RaymondJames.
NickJansen (Analyst-RaymondJames&AssociatesInc.):
Hi,nicejobonthequarterwiththeorganicvolumes,butacouplequestions.FirstontheSG&Atrend,itdidlooklikeyourSG&Adollarsgrewfasteronmaybeanequivalentbasis.Maybeit'sprobablybecauselastyear'snumberwasn'trestated;butjustwantedtogetabettersenseofwhatyou'reviewingascoreSG&Agrowth,andhowweshouldbethinkingabout2016incontextoftheacceleratingbenefitfromInvigorate2.0.
MarkGuinan (SVPCFO):
Yes,thanks,Nick.I'msureasyoucanappreciate,SG&Awillbouncearoundquartertoquarter,dependingonthetimingofcertaininvestmentsandotherthingsthatimpactthatoverallexpense.Thereiscertainlynotatrendtobereadfromthat.
YoucanseefortheyearwedrovenotonlyimprovementingrossmarginbutleverageofourSG&A.Youwouldexpectweneedtocontinuethatinordertodriveleveragethatwe'reimplyingforourguidancein2016,andcertainlytheleveragewewereimplyingthroughtheoutlookthatIprovidedattheInvestorDayin2014.
SomeofInvigorateisonthecostofsalesline.SomeofitisontheSG&Aline.AndyoushouldnotexpectustodeleverageourSG&Agoingforward.
NickJansen (Analyst-RaymondJames&AssociatesInc.):
Okay.Thensecondly,Ithinkyoumentionedabaddebtbenefitinthequarter.Justwantedtoknowifyoucouldpotentiallyquantifythatandthinkaboutwhatdrovetheimprovementfromthatbenefit.Thanks.
MarkGuinan (SVPCFO):
Yes.WhatIwouldsayisthebaddebtcontinuestobefairlystable.Mix,aswementioned,mixisgoingagainstusaswegetalargerproportionofourrevenuesfrompatients.Thebaddebtrateonthatissignificantly,onanorderofmagnitude,higherthanitisfromthepayers,whetherit'scommercialpayersorthegovernment.
Sothat'ssomethingwehavetooffset.AndthroughsomeofthegoodInvigorateworkwe'vebeendoingwe'veheldthatatbayandhelditprettystable.Sothat'swhatIwouldsayis--withoutthatone-timebenefit,youshouldhaveexpectedtoseesomestabilityinourbaddebt.
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BillQuirk,PiperJaffray.
BillQuirk(Analyst-PiperJaffray&Co.):
Great.Thanksandgoodmorning,everybody.IguessgoingbacktoFDAaswellasPAMA,Steve,whatareyouguysthinkingintermsofthefinaldocumentscomingout?Iguesswe'vebeenhearingprobably1QforPAMAand2QforFDA.I'mjustcuriousifthoseareconsistentwithyourexpectations.
SteveRusckowski(PresidentCEO):
Yes.Firstofall,letmestartwithPAMA.We'vebeenengagedwithCMSonthisalllastyear,oncewereceivedtheirdraftdocument.
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Twothings.AsIsaidinmyintroductorycomments,webelievetheydidnotgetitrightasfarastheapplicablelabs.Itneedstoincludehospitals.We'vebeenquiteclearonthatandwe'vegotalotofsupportnowfromAmericanMedicalAssociation,AmericanHospitalAssociation,andCongresstohelpuswiththat.Sowemadethatloudandclear.
Thensecondisthetiming.Wethinktheabilityforustogetthefinalguidanceoutthisyear,forustosubmitthedata,andthenalsoforthemtogothroughthatdatatorefreshtheclinicallabfeescheduleby2017isavery,verytighttimetable,asyoucanimagine.
Sothosearethetwobigissuesthatwe'vehighlighted.We'rehopefulthatwe'llseesomethinginthefirsthalfof2016.Theynevercommittowhatthedateis,butwe'rehopefulthatwe'llseesomethingafterthey'vedigestedeverythingwe'veprovidedtotheminthelastpartoflastyear.Sothat'swherethatstands.
AsfarastheFDA,asIjustmentionedwecontinuetoworkwithCongressonalegislativeaction.Webelievethat'sthebestapproachforthisissue.
Webelieveitisagoodstart.Andagainasthetradeassociationwebelievetheydonothavethestatutoryauthority--theFDAdoesnothavethestatutoryauthoritytoregulatelaboratories.
Sowe'regoingtoworkthisinduecourse.We'rehopefulthatwecancomeupwithsomethingwithCongress,andwe'llseewherethatleadsus.Butthisisgoingtobedonestep-by-stepandmakeprogressandseewherethisevolvesoverthenextseveralmonths.
BillQuirk(Analyst-PiperJaffray&Co.):
Gotit.Thenifyouhadtohandicap--IguessstickingonPAMA,ifyouhadtohandicapofthemexpandingbeyondthelabsthey'vealreadyspokento,whereareyouthinkingatthispoint,Steve?
SteveRusckowski(PresidentCEO):
Oh,theapplicablelab?Youcan'thandicapit.AllIknowisthemessagehasbeenloudandclear.
WegotthesupportoftheAmericanHospitalAssociation,whichclearlygetspaidthesamewaywegetpaid.Iftheydonotincludehospitals--asweallknow,thosecommercialratesarehigherthanourrates,sotheyneedtobeinthebasetogetamarketviewofthecodes.
SecondistheSenatehasweighedin.TheHousehasweighedin.Industryhasweighedin.Weclearlyhavedoneagoodjobofmakingsure--wewanttomakesurewegetthisrightbecauseit'simportanttoallofus.
Again,yougobacktothedefinitionofPAMA:it'sProtectAccesstoMedicareAct.It'sveryimportantthatMedicarebeneficiariescontinuetogetthecriticaltesting,andallthoseMedicarebeneficiariesarenotjustinthoselargecitieswhereweprimarilyserve.There'salotofregionalplayersandthere'salotofhospitaloutreachplayersinthismarketplacethathavetogetfairratesfromCMS.
BillQuirk(Analyst-PiperJaffray&Co.):
Gotit.thanks,guys.Appreciatethecolor.
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IsaacRo,GoldmanSachs.
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JoelKaufman (Analyst-GoldmanSachs):
Hi,guys.Thanks.It'sactuallyJoelinforIsaac.Youguystouchedalittlebitonthecompaniondiagnosticsmarketinthepreparedremarks.Couldyoumaybehelpusthinkabouthowyouintendtowinshareinthatmarket?Itappearsthatmarket'sincreasinglybecomingamorecommoditizedendmarket.
SteveRusckowski(PresidentCEO):
Yes,sure.It'sapromisingmarket.Ifyougobackandlookatourplatformsforgrowth,companiondiagnosticsissometimesconnectedwithprecisionmedicine.Itisanimportantpartofourgrowthstrategy.
Severalthings.Oneisthatwecontinuetoworkwiththemarket-leadingresearchorganizations.AbouttwoyearsagoweannouncedarelationshipwithMemorialSloan-Kettering;we'reactuallytakingtheirresearchandwearenowmarketingaproductwecallOncoVantage,with34actionablegenes.Actuallywe'regoingtoexpandthatpanelthisyearaswellwiththeirhelp.
Sothisisrightinthemiddleofprecisionmedicine,andclearlywe'reprovidingthecompaniondiagnosticsassociatedwiththat.
Secondis,we'reengagingwithpharma.Weannouncedtheworkthispastquarterthatweweredoing.Italkedaboutinmyintroductoryremarksourrecentannouncementaroundmelanoma.
Wecontinuetobehighlyengagedwithallthepharmacompaniesthathavemanycompaniondiagnosticsassociatedwiththeirdevelopmentfunnels.Sowe'reverywellpositionedinthatregard.
WedoworknowcloselywithQuintilesofgettinganevenbetterviewinthemarketplaceandbetteraccesspointforalotofthesmallerpharmacompanieswiththerelationshipthattheyhave,sincetheyaretheworld'slargestCRO.Sowethinkwe'reverywellpositionedasaninnovationplayer;andnowwe'repositionedevenbetterwithourrelationshipwithQuintilesintermsofaccesstothemarket.
JoelKaufman (Analyst-GoldmanSachs):
Thanks.Thenmaybejustahigh-levelquestiononwhatyou'reseeingforM&Adynamicsinthemarketrightnow.Aretherepocketsinthemarketwherevaluationsaremoreattractiveonarelativebasis?Justtryingtogetasenseofwhetherweshouldexpecttoseemoredealstowardsesoteric-gearedindependentsormoretraditionalfull-servicelabs.
SteveRusckowski(PresidentCEO):
Yes,wecontinuetoworkthemarket.OurstrategyistofocusonDiagnosticInformationServices.
We'reentirelyfocusedonthat.AllourM&Ahasbeenassociatedaroundthat.
We'vedonesomehospitaloutreachdeals,themostnotableoneisHartford'soutreachactivityinthefourthquarter.Wecontinuetohaveanicefunnel,andthat'sconsistentwithourstrategyof1%to2%growththroughacquisitions.
Throughouroutlookwebelievethere'splentyofprospectstosupportthat.Inthatregard,wealsohavebeenclearthatwe'regoingtoonlyacquirewhenwecanhaveagoodbusinesscasetomakemoneyforourshareholders.Manyofthedealswe'vedonesofarhavejustifiedthemselvesbaseduponcostsynergieswhich,inourexperience,isthebestacquisitionsyoucando.
Sowe'restillencouraged.Westillhaveastrongbeliefthatwecandeliverthisportionofourstrategy,andwe'vedeliveredonthatthroughthepastseveralyears.
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JoelKaufman (Analyst-GoldmanSachs):
Thanks.
Operator :
ElizabethBlake,BankofAmericaMerrillLynch.
ElizabethBlake (Analyst-BofAMerrillLynch):
Hi,goodmorningandthanksfortakingmyquestion.YoutouchedonyourDataDiagnosticspartnershipwithInovalonthatyoulaunchedinthequarter.Couldyouprovidesomecoloraroundyourplansforreimbursementthere?
Imean,haveyoubeenindiscussionswithhealthplans?Iguess,howwouldyoucharacterizetheinterestyou'regettingfromapayerperspective?
SteveRusckowski(PresidentCEO):
Wesaidinourcommentsthatwe'requiteencouraged.We'reofferingalotofvalue.Typicallythepaymentisthroughpayers,whoaretherisk-takingorganizations;soitcouldbeanACO,thosepeoplethataremanagingthepopulationandhavethefinancialincentivetoprovidethisinformationtothephysiciansthataretreatingandmanagingpatients'lives.
Inthatregardwe'vebeenoffandrunningsincethefourthquarter.Momentumisbuilding.We'veworkedthroughtheintegration.
Thenicepartaboutthisiswe'reprovidingthiscapabilityinthenormalworkflowofaphysician.Wehavetremendous,tremendouscapabilitiesatthedesktopofaphysicianwithourorderentryresultsreportingsystem,whichwecallCare360.Sowhenthey'reintheorderentrysystem,ifinfacttheywantthevisibilitytothisinformationthatwe'regettingfromInovalontheycaneasilyaccessthatinformation.
Andthepaymentmodelisbackto,again,typicallytherisk-takingentity,whoeverthatmightbe,thepayerorinthecaseofanentitythat'stakingrisklikeanACO.Sowe'reworkingbothphysicians'awarenessofthiscapabilityalongwithpayerawarenessofthis,andwe'reveryencouragedabouttheprospects.
ElizabethBlake (Analyst-BofAMerrillLynch):
Okay,great.Thankyouverymuch.
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DonaldHooker,KeyBanc.
DonaldHooker (Analyst-KeyBankCapitalMarkets):
Great,goodmorning.Myquestionwillbesimplebecauseit'safollow-uponthelastquestion.I'malsointerestedinthisDataDiagnosticsrelationshipyouhavewithInovalonandappreciatethecolor.
Lookingahead,howlongdoyouthink,ifyouweretoguessintermsofhowlongdoyouthinkthisrelationshipwouldtaketoramptoamaturelevel,Iguess,overtoapointwhereIguesstheoreticallyitcouldpotentiallystartimpactingandshowingupinnumbers?Iguessinotherwords,howlongarethesalescycles?
SteveRusckowski(PresidentCEO):
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Yes.Wellfirstofall,westartedinthefourthquarter.WeannouncedthisdealinOctober.We'vealreadysignedsomebusiness;Imentionedthatinourremarksthatwesignedsomebusiness.
We'restartingto--we'llstarttoseesomeflowinthefirstquarteranditwillcontinuetobuild,justlikebuildinganybusiness.Soit'simpliedinourguidance;wedoexpectsomegrowthfromthisbusinessin2016,andthatbusinesswillgrowintothefuture.
DonaldHooker (Analyst-KeyBankCapitalMarkets):
Whatisyourdedicatedsalesforcetothisproduct?
SteveRusckowski(PresidentCEO):
Well,asyoucanimagine,you'resellingtopayers,sowehaveahospital--excuseme,wehaveahealthsystemteamthatcallsonandmanagesourhealthinsurancerelationships.Sothere'saportionofthesalethathappensthere.
Secondiswehaveahealthsystemssalesorganizationthatcallsonintegrateddeliverysystems.AsImentioned,someofthoseintegrateddeliverysystemsaretakingriskandhaveACOs;sowecallthere.
Thirdiswe'reequippingourphysiciansalesforcethatgoesinandtalkstoprimarycarephysiciansandallphysicians,includingourspecialistphysiciansalesforces.Sowe'retrainingoursalesforcethere,andwehaveover1,200peopleinoursalesorganization.AndthisiscomplementarytowhatInovalonalreadydoesincallingonthehealthinsuranceorganizationsaswell.
DonaldHooker (Analyst-KeyBankCapitalMarkets):
Gotyou.Thankyou.
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BillBonello,Craig-Hallum.
BillBonello (Analyst-Craig-HallumCapitalGroup):
Goodmorning.Ijusthaveacoupleofquestionsabouttheguidance.Mark,youtalkedaboutthatyoufeltafterputsandtakesandadjustmentsyouwereprettymuchinlinewithyourlong-termguidancerangeforwhatyoudeliveredin2015.IfIlookatthe2016EPSguidance,atthemiddleoftherangeit'ssortof7%,whichIthinkisstillbelowyourlong-termEPSguidancerange.
SoI'mjusttryingtoreconcilewhythatwouldbeandwhenyoumightexpecttobeinthat8%to10%range.AndthenIhaveafollow-up.
MarkGuinan (SVPCFO):
Yes,thanks,Bill.Iappreciatethequestion.Obviously,we'regoingtoprovideguidancethatwethinkisprudentanddeliverable.
Wehaveprovidedarange.Thatrangecertainlyincludessomenumbersthatwouldputusintothat8%to10%.Iwanttorefreshpeople'smemorythatthe8%to10%wasacompoundannualgrowthrateoverthreeyears,soitwasnotacommitmenttodothateverysingleyear.
AlsoinmypreparedremarksIremindedpeoplethatatthatpointwewereobviouslylookingata2014numberthatwas$0.05lowerthanweactuallydeliveredin2014.AndIcertainlydidnotanticipateareductioninouramortization,whichwasreallydrivenbythefactthatwedidnothaveasmuchsignificantM&Aactivityin2015.
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Sowefeelintermsofwhatwecommittedtothatwe'reontrack.We'renotbehind.Certainlydependingonwhereweend2016withinthatguidancewe'lleitherbealittlebitslightlybelowtheCAGRorrightintheCAGR.Really,whatwewanttodoisprovideguidancethatwefeelisprudentanddeliverable;andasweprogressthroughtheyearobviouslywe'llseewherewemightendupwithinthatrange.
Butwecertainlydon'tthinktheguidanceimplies,giventheframingIsharedon2015,thatwe'remateriallyoffofthat8%to10%.
BillBonello (Analyst-Craig-HallumCapitalGroup):
Okay.Thenjustasafollow-uptothat,wouldn'titbelogicaltothinkthatthegrowthcomp--assumingPAMAdoesn'tgetpostponed--thatthegrowthcompwouldactuallybealittlebitmoredifficultin2017thanitisin2016?OraretherethingsabouteitherthisyearornextyearthatwouldoffsetthatMedicarecut?
MarkGuinan (SVPCFO):
Yes,soBill,Italkedaboutthreeleversthatwouldenableustogrowearningssignificantlyfasterthanrevenue.Oneofthemwasthesynergiesthatwouldbecontinuedtobedeliveredtotheirsteady-statefromacquisitionswehaddoneearlyin2014.Soyouwouldimaginethatprobablyalotofthathasbeendelivered.
ThesecondpiecehasbeenourInvigorate,anditbeinglargeenoughtooffsetpriceandwageinflation,anddeliversomemarginexpansion.Thenthethirdelementistheleveragewegetfromorganicgrowth.
Wecommittedtoimprovingourrelativeperformance.AsStevetalkedabout,minus4%in2013andminus2%in2014,andthensomerevenuegrowththelastfivequarters.Andcertainlysincethere'snotasmuchM&Ainourguidancethisyearastherewasinthe2%wegotlastyear,whichbenefitedfromsomecarryoveronSolstas,we'reimplyingcontinuedstrengtheningofourorganicperformance.
Asyouknow,organicvolumegrowthhasahighdrop-through,andaswegetcloserandclosertomarketrates,whichwehadcommittedwewoulddothroughthethree-yeartimeframe,that'sgoingtoalsoenableustoleverourP&L.Soyoushouldexpectacceleratingorganicgrowthwhichwillbeadriverandthencontinuedtoprogresstogettothe$1.3billionofInvigorate,whichwillalsoaccelerateourearningsleverage.
BillBonello (Analyst-Craig-HallumCapitalGroup):
That'sreallyhelpful.Thenjustonelastthing.IsthereanywayyoucantelluswhatclinicaltrialscontributedtooperatingincomeinQ4oflastyearonanannualizedbasis?Justsowehaveanapples-to-applescompontheoperatingincomeaswellastherevenue.
MarkGuinan (SVPCFO):
Weneverbrokeitdownbyquarter,Bill.ThebestI'mwillingtodo,whichI'vesaidinthepast,isthatitwasabout2%ofourrevenueanditsmarginwascomparable.So,youcankindofframewhatthatwould'vecontributedinQ4.
BillBonello (Analyst-Craig-HallumCapitalGroup):
Okay.Thankyousomuch.
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AmandaMurphy,WilliamBaird.
AmandaMurphy(Analyst-WilliamBlair&Company):
Hi,goodmorning,guys.Ijusthadafollow-upactuallytooneofthepointsyoujustmadeintermsofvolumegrowth.Whatis--wouldyousayisthemarketgrowthatthispoint?
I'mjustcuriouswhatyou'reseeingintermsofthebaseutilization.Obviouslythere'sbeensomediscussionaroundtheACAandwhatimpactthathashad.Sojustcuriousifyoucanprovidemoredetailonutilizationratesthisyearandthengoingintonextyearaswell.
SteveRusckowski(PresidentCEO):
Yes,well,I'llstartandI'msureMarkwilladdsomethingtoit.Firstofall,wecontinuetobuildourownmarketmodel.In2014whenwehadourInvestorDay,weranourmodelwithanumberofassumptions.Wesaythattheindependentlaboratorymarketisgoingtogrowabout2%to3%invalue,andthat2%to3%invaluehas,asyouknow,alotofmovingparts.
WealsomadesomeassumptionsabouttheACAimpact.We'vealwaysassumedthataswehavemoreinsuredlivesintheUnitedStatesthatthatwouldbenetpositiveforthisindustry,netpositiveforus.Butweallknowthathasbeenmuted.There'ssomequestionaboutwhatwillhappenin2016aroundsomeofthoselives.
Andthenalsoweassumeinthatouradvancementoftechnology.We'recontinuingtorolloutnewinnovationtothemarketplace,whichhelpswiththegrowthrateassumptions;andthatwasimpliedinthe2%,3%.
Theagingpopulation,forinstance.HepatitisCisagoodopportunityforus,whichwe'retakingadvantageof,withtheBabyBoomerswhoneedtogettested.Soallthatisthe2%to3%.
Alsowhatwe'reseeing,Amanda,iswhatwerefertoasdensity.We'reseeingacontinuedimprovementintheamountoftestswe'regettingthroughrequisitions.Someofthisalsomightbeenhancedwiththedelaysthatwe'veseensincetheGreatRecessionoverthelast,let'ssayeighttonineyears.Thatpeopleeventuallywhentheyshowuptothephysicianhavemoreneedformoretestingperthatepisode.
Soyouputthatalltogetherandthat'swhywefeelthat2%to3%--andthat'snotinanyspecificyear,butinthelonger-termview--isagoodgaugeofthemarket.Webelievethatutilizationorvolumesonareqbasiswouldbeslightlylessthanthat,butonatestbasiswouldbeslightlygreaterthanthereqsbecauseyou'regettinganincreaseinthenumberoftestsperrequisition.
Sothat'swhatwehaverightnow.AsIsaidin2016wesawutilizationbeingsomewhatstable.Likeyou,welookatallthedifferentindicationsinthemarketplacetogetengagedwithwhat'shappeningon--goingonwithinthemarketplace.Butsofarit'sfeelingaswecomeoutofthisyearsomewhatstableexpectationsforutilizationin2016.
AmandaMurphy(Analyst-WilliamBlair&Company):
Gotit;veryhelpful.Thenjustonemoreonesotericgrowth.Youmentionedafewteststhatyou'verolledoutinperiod.Ifyoucanprovidealittlemoredetailintermsofwhat'sdrivingthatgrowth.Likeforexample,areyouseeingincreasedhospitalsend-outsfromalltheconsolidationacoupleyearsago?Justhelpingusunderstandthepartsofthatgrowthishelpful.
SteveRusckowski(PresidentCEO):
Sure.Whatwementionedinourpreparedremarksiswehaveabigbusiness--it's$1.8billion;Ireferred
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toitinmyclosingremarksasbeingadvanceddiagnostics,whichincludegeneandesoterictesting,anditgrewby5%.5%,sowefeelgoodaboutthat.
Iwouldsayit'sanumberofprogramsthatwehavelaunchedinthepastfewyears.Itistakingadvantageofourinvestmentthatwemadeinourclinicalfranchiseorganization.
Wehaveinvestedinastrongerteam.We'relaunchingproductsinabetterway.And,Dan,whydon'tyougiveusthetophandfulofopportunitiesthatwesawinthatnumber?
DanHaemmerle (ExecutiveDirectorofIR):
Yes,sure.Amanda,we'veseengrowthinanumberofdifferentcategories,butcertainlysawduringthecourseoftheyeargrowthinourBRCAtesting,inournoninvasiveprenataltestingsolution,withininfectiousdiseasewithHCVandHIV.Soseeinggrowthinanumberofdifferentareas.
SteveRusckowski(PresidentCEO):
Sowefeelgoodaboutthat$1.8billionbusinessgrowing5%.Wethinktheprospectscontinuetobegoodgoingforward.
AmandaMurphy(Analyst-WilliamBlair&Company):
Gotit.Thanksverymuch.
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MichaelCherny,EvercoreISI.
MichaelCherny(Analyst-EvercoreISI):
Goodmorning,guys.IactuallywanttodigalittlebitmoreintoAmanda'squestion.Yougaveusanicebreakdowninafollow-uprelatedtothewayyoulookatthemarkethere,lowsingledigitsgrowthintermsofthemarket.
Obviously,it'sbeenawhileforanumberoffactorssinceyougotto--beenabletodeliverthatgrowthonanunderlyingbasis.Aswethinkaboutboththisyearaswellasthenextfew--andIknowtherearemovingpieces,sothisisabitofaloadedquestion.Butisthinkingaboutsub-1%organicvolumegrowthor1%-ish,orsomewhereinthatrange,thenewnormalthatweshouldthinkaboutrelativetoyourbusiness?Andifitisorwhateverthatnumberis,whatdoesthatmeanintermsoftheincrementaldrop-downthatyouwouldexpectrelativetohistoricallevelsonthevolumeside?
MarkGuinan (SVPCFO):
Yes,soobviouslywe'renotgoingtoprojectourvolumebeyondthisyear,Michael.I'msureyoucanappreciatethat.
Whatwedidcommittowasgettingbacktomarketlevelsofrevenuegrowthandalsothengainingshareatsomepoint.Butinthethree-yeartimeframethrough2017,wefeltitwasincumbentuponustogetbacktomarket-levelgrowth,andthat'sreallywhatwe'recertainlystrivingtodo.
Ithink,aseveryonerecognizes,wetalkaboututilizationinamarketthat'sreallyabunchofsubmarkets.Sooneofthedriverscertainly,besidesthefactthatwehaveoutstandingofferings,ofthe5%growthinesotericisthatsomeofthosemarketsaregrowing.CertainlyBRCAisagrowingmarket;noninvasiveprenataltestingisagrowingmarket;hepatitisCisagrowingmarket.
Andthenyou'vegotthingsthatwementionedandit'snotquitebehindus,suchaspaps,whichisa
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decliningmarket.Certainlytheimpactofsomeofthesafetyscaresontestosteronehasimpactedthatmarketintermsofutilizationoverthelastcoupleyears.
Sothere'sreallyabunchofmarketsmovingsomewhatdifferentdirections.AnddependingoneachlabandcertainlyQuest'sshareinthosemarkets,it'sgoingtoimpactusalldifferently.
Soitwouldbereallydifficult,evenifwewerewilling,togiveyouavolumenumber.That'swhywhatwereallyfeelbetteraboutisgivingrevenuenumbers.
Certainlyifyoujustlookatvolume,youmisssomeofthepositivemixaspectsthatyou'veseencomethroughinourresultsoverthelastyear-plusintermsofmix,highermixoftheseesotericofferings;highermixofbettercustomerpricing,beingmoredisciplinedinthoseways.Sothat'swhatourfocusisonasopposedtofiguringoutvolume.
Wethinkthedemographicswe'vetalkedaboutarepositive.Certainlyagingpopulation,growingpopulation.Wecertainly,despitesomeoftherecentnegativenews--suchas40%fewerenrolleesintheexchanges;someoftheslowergrowththatwe'vetalkedaboutoverthelast18monthsintermsofenrollment;you'veseenamajorpayerwhohastalkedaboutsomeofthestruggleswiththeexchanges--anddespiteallthatwestillthinktheAffordableCareActisaddingpatientswithinsurance,andthat'sagoodthingforus.
Sowedofeelpositiveaboutvolumesandtrendsandcertainlyexpecttogetourfairshareofthat.Butitwouldbeverydifficulttogiveyousomesortofasteady-statevolumeorganicgrowthprojectiongoingforward.
DanHaemmerle (ExecutiveDirectorofIR):
Michael,justtofollow-uponthatalittlebit,keepinmind,wetalkaboutrevenuealotbecausewhatshowsupasvolumeversusgrowthinouresotericbusinesssometimesfallsintothemixcategory.Sorevenueperrequisition,thisyearwefeltsomepressurebutwewereabletooffsetthatforthelastseveralquarters,morethanoffsetthatwithfavorabletestmixthat'scomingthroughthegene-basedandesoteric.
IthinkStevealsomentionedthatwe'reseeingmoretestsonrequisitionsaswell.Sotherequisitionvolumecountsdon'tnecessarilygetthecredit,butyouseethecreditoverallintherevenuelineforsomeofthatbenefitandsomeofthatstrategy.
MichaelCherny(Analyst-EvercoreISI):
No,Iappreciatethat,guys.IfIcouldsqueezeinonemorequickone,anyupdatedthoughtsrelatedtosomeofthetechnologicaldevelopments,ormaybelackthereof,relatedtosomeofthepoint-of-caretestingandparticularlysomeofthemicrofluidics-linkedpoint-of-caretesting?Obviouslythere'sbeenalotofnewsaroundacertainupstartthatseemstohavehitabitofawall.
Soanythingrelatedtohowthatmarketisevolving,ifyouseeanyothertechnologiesthatatsomepointmakesensetobesuppliersparticularlyintothepatientservicecenters.
SteveRusckowski(PresidentCEO):
Yes.Thanks,Mike,foryourquestion.Firstofall,point-of-carediagnosticshasbeenaroundfordecades.I'vebeenaroundfordecades,investedinit,andknowthemarketwell.
Whereithasbeensuccessfuliswheretherehasbeenagoodvaluepropositionthathasdeliveredsomethingtothemarketplace.Sochronicdiseasemanagement,diabetes,it'sdonewell.
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Ifyoulookatcriticalcareinhospitals,ifyouweretogointoacriticalcareunitwithbloodgastesting,that'sbeenanexampleofgoodpoint-of-caretestingvalueproposition.Andthenfinallyemergencymedicine,ifyoulookatcardiacenzymesandthevalueofhavingthosecardiacenzymessooner,whenthepatientisbeingtransferredtotheemergencyroom,hasagoodvalueproposition.
Butinotherareaswhereit'snotquiteclear,whereit'snotcompelling,thosepromiseshavenotreallybeendelivered.Withallthatsaid,we'retheworld'slargestDiagnosticInformationServicesCompany.We'realwayslookingatwayswecanimproveourcoststructure.Webuyfromallthein-vitrodiagnosticcompanies.
Ifinfactthereisabetterplatformtodosomeportionofourroutinetestingonamuchmoreefficient,effectiveplatformthanthecurrentonesthatweusefromallthesuppliers,we'reallears.Sowenevernotlookatinnovationthatcouldbehelpfulinusdeliveringonourpromiseofgreatqualityatsomeofthebestpricesintheindustry.Andourvaluepropositioncontinuestobevery,verystrong.
Sopointofcareisapartofthat,butyouneedtomakesurethatyoureallyunderstandwhatit'sgoingtodoandwherethevaluepropositionisstrongenoughtogetsometraction.Andagainwecouldbeautilizerofsomeofthatifinfactthefactsarecompelling.
MichaelCherny(Analyst-EvercoreISI):
Thanks,guys.
Operator :
Thankyou.Atthistimewehavenofurtherquestions.
SteveRusckowski(PresidentCEO):
Great.Wellthanks,everyone,forallthequestionsandthanksforjoiningusonthecalltoday.Justtoconcludewehadanothersolidquarterandfinishedtheyearstrong.Weappreciateyoursupport,andhaveagreatday.Takecare.
Operator :
ThankyouforparticipatingintheQuestDiagnosticsfourth-quarter2015conferencecall.
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