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Prophet in Hindu ScripturesAn analysis (Part 1, 2 & 3)
Agniveer
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Mission Agniveer - Vision Vedas. 1
A relatively new
propaganda seems
to be on rage these
days that Prophet
Muhammad (pbuh) hasbeen prophesised in Hindu
Scriptures. This seems to
be a great hit in major
Islamic websites over last
ew years. It is also very
useul in increasing the
eectiveness o conversion
programs driven by vision
o making India a Muslim
among country within next
5 years (as resolved by
Maulana Abdullah Tariq
recently on Peace TV).
And why shouldnt it
be eective. First, it is
proved that the Kalki
Avatar mentioned in
Bhavishya Puran is
none other than ProphetMuhammad. Second, it is
also demonstrated that
Vedas, the nal authority
in Hinduism, themselves
sang praise o Prophet
Muhammad.
Now the entry barriers
or a Hindu in embracing
Islam are suddenly
evaporated!
All that a devout Hindu
is doing now is accepting
the directions o his own
religion with urther
sincerity.
Thus, when a close
riend o mine, who is an
expert in Islam, visited
a prominent temple in
the heart o Lucknow,
he was greeted by the
head priest. He could see
marks on orehead o the
priest. When discussionscontinued on matter
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o religion, the priest
explained to him how
Prophet is the nal goal
or every Hindu and how
Islam alone can save
humanity.
Now my riend realized
that the mark on the head
was out o 5 times o daily
prayer in submission to
the legend who has been
prophesised in Hindu
Scriptures! And this is the
new direction o Islamic
conversion techniques that
he has been witnessing.
In this series, we shall
critically analyze the
claims o this propaganda
and bring truth to the ore.
The ounder o this
hypothesis is none other
than the stage-perormer
Dr Zakir Naik who can
recite page number,
chapter number and verse
number or any book
on earth. His style is so
hypnotic and entertainingthat the audience no more
has the space to check
relevance o his reerences.
The same style is evident
in his writing as well,
which orm the basis o his
memorized speeches.
And now, the conused
Muslim youth has ound a
new passion that conrms
their seat in Paradise.
They would simply copy-
paste rom his articles
and spread the good
word around on internet
orums, blogs and social
networking sites. The
print outs are circulatedin colleges and schools.
This is oten very eective
against certain less-well-
versed Hindus who all
under the ploy.
I hope this article willat least serve as a ready
reerence or answering
this propaganda through
a similar copy-paste i
nothing more. However i
this induces an attitude
o questioning among the
readers to seek the truth,
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and at least reject the
obvious alsehoods that
come in this journey, I
would consider my eorts
to be ruitul.
This series is based on the
original article written
by Dr Zakir Naik and
published on Islamic
Research Foundation
website. You can review
the same here: http://
www.ir.net/index.
php?option=com_content
&view=article&id=201&It
emid=131
Beore we get into a more
detailed analysis, let us
argue a ew more points:
1. Muslims have been
in India or around
1000 years now. And or
majority o the time, they
were ruling this country.
Why is it that Muslims
could not discover this
obvious act in so many
years? In act, study
o Vedas and Puranswere more popular in
those times than it is
today! Why is it that no
commentary on Vedas
written by anyone since
Vedas were rst authored
(they are considered
the oldest books) could
ever discover such an
important act which is
to decide the ate o the
world?Ater all, as per DrNaik and Quran, the only
way to book a ticket to
Paradise is by believing
in Prophet Muhammad
to be the last Prophet
and his message being
the only authoritative
message o God! Thus no
message o Vedas can be
more important than this
message, i it is indeed a
true ction!
2. I indeed Vedas could
prophesise coming o
Prophet Muhammad, why
not consider Vedas to be
work o another Prophet?
Is it not a miracle that
the oldest book on earthcould predict arrival o the
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last Prophet! So, why not
accept Vedas as book o
God?The usual answer to
this perplexing question is
that Vedas may have been
the rst book, but Quran is
last and hence only Quran
has to be ollowed. Now
my counter-question is
that is God perect or not?
I yes, which is what Quranwants us to believe, then
why could not God give his
rst book as nal edition?
I God knows everything,
what made him change his
own theories? This means
that God is imperect.
Here, when trapped, the
proponents weakly argue
that Gods knowledge is
same but the application
changes rom time to time.
I that be so, should nota new Quran come now
when the world order has
completely changed rom
barbaric middle ages when
Quran had to accept evils
like slavery, polygamy and
gender discrimination?
Further, Vedas talk o
rebirth. They talk o
monogamy. They talk
o Law o Karma and
reuse belie in Heaven
or Hell. They believe that
nature, God and soul
are beginning-less and
endless. Creation and
Destruction happen in
continuous cycles. Theseare completely opposite to
Quranic view o polygamy,
one birth, permanent
Heaven or Hell and this
being the rst and last
creation o God that
happened in ew days a
ew thousand years ago. I
can agree to some extent
to uture plans being
modied by God as part o
some grand strategy, but
how can even God changethe history o universe
that had already happened
even beore Vedas came in
Quran, his revised edition
o message? Is God so
orgetul o what he has
already done? I that beso, what is the guarantee
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that he will not realize
some more mistakes and
send another edition o his
message?
Secondly, i indeed
Vedas could predict about
Prophet Muhammad, and
Dr Zakir Naik sincerely
believes so, should he
not consider Vedas also
as a book by Prophets?
I not last, at least the
rst one? This is where
Dr Naiks corrupt tricks
get exposed. He ears
that any admission o any
other books apart romthose ollowed by believers
(Jews, Christians and
Muslims) being given by
God may put him in Hell
orever, as per instructions
in Quran. So in another
article o his, he fatly
reuses to admit that
Vedas are indeed books o
revelation. He conveniently
orgets that he himsel has
proved that Vedas gave
the biggest prophecy oall times the advent o
Prophet Muhammad and
claims that
There is no text
in the Quran or SahihHadith mentioning the
name o the revelation
that was sent to India.
Since the names o the
Vedas or other Hindu
scriptures are no where
to be ound in Quran and
Sahih Hadith, one cannot
say or sure that they were
the revelations o God.
They may be the revelation
o God or may not be the
revelation o God.
You can check it out
on his FAQ on Hinduism in
his IRF site (www.ir.net)
3. We should also
scrutinize what
qualications Dr Zakir
Naik possesses to interpret
Vedas? Is he a Sanskrit
scholar or a Vedic Pandit?
Or has he reerred to
works o any scholar? No!
He simply lists names osome commentrators on
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Vedas in his articles whom
he has reerred to. Most
o these are either western
indologists who are
considered authentic in
rst place, or some others
whom only Dr Naik knows.
Further he does not
provide exact translation
by any o the scholars
and only writes out thecommentary that suits his
predrawn conclusion. Even
the western indologists did
not hint on even remotest
reerence to Muhammad!
Thus all Dr Naik has done
is ollowing the old art
o marketing, That a lie
shouted thousand times
becomes a truth!
In next parts o the
series, we will analyze the
prophecy o Muhammad
in Bhavishya Puran and
Vedas respectively.
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Dr Naik provides a very
detailed analysis o verses
o Bhavishya Puran
along with reerences.
The only mistake he made
was that he presenteda completely opposite
picture o Prophet
Muhammad compared
to what Bhavishya Puran
actually writes. (Reer
http://www.ir.net/index.
php?option=com_content&view=article&id=201&It
emid=131)
http://bhavishyapuran.
blogspot.com/ provides
an excellent analysis o
the relevant portions oBhavishya Puran with
scans o original texts and
dictionary meanings o the
key words.
In summary, the actual
meaning o the verses is asollows:
Shri Suta Goswami
said that a demon called
Tripurasur who was earlier
burnt to ashes by Shiva
has taken birth again
in orm o Mahamada(Muhammad) and his
deeds are like that o an
evil ghost. The ghost was
rebuked by Kalidas as O
rascal, you have created
an illusion to bewilder the
king, I will kill you, youare the lowest
Further, the ghost called
Mahamada comes in
dream o King Bhoja and
says,
O king, your religion is o
course known as the best
religion among all. Still
I am going to establish
a terrible and demoniac
religion by the order o
the Lord . The symptomso my ollowers will be
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that they rst o all will
cut their genitals, have no
shikha, but having beard,
be wicked, make noise
loudly and eat everything.
They should eat animals
without perorming
any rituals. This is my
opinion. They will perorm
puricatory act with the
musala or a pestle as youpuriy your things with
kusha. Thereore, they will
be known as musalman,
the corrupters o religion.
Thus the demoniac religion
will be ounded by me.
It is amply clear that
contrary to Dr Naiks
claims, Mahamada
(Muhammad) is being
condemned here as a
demon and not as a
spiritual person. Far
rom being a Kalki
Avatar, Muhammad is
being oretold as a devil
harbinger o nuisance!
Having analyzed the
verses, let us analyze a
ew more points regarding
Bhavishya Puran:
1. Bhavishya Puran
is not considered an
authoritative religiousscripture. It is amply clear
that the book continued
to be written till late
19th century. Because
it also contains stories
o Jesus Christ, Akbar,
Sawai Jai Singh, Alha
Udal, Tulsidas, Surdas,
Guru Nanak, Shahjahan,
Aurangzeb, Shivaji and
even Queen Victoria and
her Parliament. Bulk o
the material seems to bewritten during oreign rule.
Thus, Bhavishya Puran
does not even come in
category o evidence, when
it comes to Hindu religion.
2. Still i Dr ZakirNaik has inallible aith
in Bhavishya Puran, he
should also admit that
Muhammad was a devil
and reincarnation o
Tripurasur.
3. Also, i Dr Naik
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has so much trust on
Bhavishya Puran and
considers the book so
prophetic, why does he
not admit other advices
o the book the astings
on specic days and
their benets, worship o
dierent idols, avoidance
o meat, celibacy, shraadh,
prohibition o marriageamong close relatives,
agnihotra, holy places,
cow protection etc. And
accordingly, he should
reuse to believe in those
verses o Quran which are
against the precepts o
Bhavishya Puran.
In the next part o the
series, we shall critically
examine the claim o
Prophet Muhammad in
Vedas.
More on Bhavishya Puran:
Extracted rom http://
bhavishyapuran.blogspot.
com/
Bhavishya Purana : ThePrediction o Islam And
Muhammad
According to Bhavishya
purana
Mahamada (Incarnation
o Tripurasura the
demon) = Dharmadushika
(Polluter o righteousness)
Religion ounded
by Mahamada =
Paisachyadharama
(demoniac religion)
Original Sanskrit Version:
Bhavishya Puran: Prati
Sarg: Part III:3,3 5-27
Translation source:
(http://www.indiadivine.
org/articles/188/1/
Bhavishya-Purana-The-
Prediction-o-Islam/
Page1.html)
[From the third part o
the Pratisarga Parva.]
Shri Suta Gosvami said:
In the dynasty o king
Shalivahana, there were
ten kings who went to
the heavenly planets
ater ruling or over 500
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years. Then gradually
the morality declined
on the earth. At that
time Bhojaraja was the
tenth o the kings on
the earth. When he saw
that the moral law o
conduct was declining he
went to conquer all the
directions o his country
with ten-thousand soldierscommanded by Kalidasa.
He crossed the river
Sindhu and conquered over
the gandharas, mlecchas,
shakas, kasmiris, naravas
and sathas. He punished
them and collected a large
ammount o wealth. Then
the king went along with
Mahamada (Muhammad),
the preceptor o mleccha-
dharma, and his ollowers
to the great god, LordShiva, situated in the
desert. He bathed Lord
Shiva with Ganges water
and worshipped him in
his mind with pancagavya
(milk, ghee, yoghurt, cow
dung, and cow urine) andsandalwood paste, etc.
Ater he oered some
prayers and pleased him.
Suta Goswami said: Ater
hearing the kings prayers,Lord Shiva said: O king
Bhojaraja, you should
go to the place called
Mahakakshvara, that land
is called Vahika and now is
being contaminated by the
mlecchas. In that terrible
country there no longer
exists dharma. There was
a mystic demon named
Tripura(Tripurasura),
whom I have already
burnt to ashes, he hascome again by the order o
Bali. He has no origin but
he achieved a benediction
rom me. His name is
Mahamada(Muhammad)
and his deeds are like
that o a ghost. Thereore,
O king, you should not
go to this land o the
evil ghost. By my mercy
your intelligence will
be puried. Hearing
this the king cameback to his country and
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Mahamada(Muhammad)
came with them to
the bank o the river
Sindhu. He was expert
in expanding illusion, so
he said to the king very
pleasingly: O great king,
your god has become my
servant. Just see, as he
eats my remnants, so I will
show you. The king becamesurprised when he saw this
just beore them. Then in
anger Kalidasa rebuked
Mahamada(Muhammad)
O rascal, you have
created an illusion to
bewilder the king, I will
kill you, you are the
lowest
That city is known as their
site o pilgrimage, a place
which was Madina or ree
rom intoxication. Having
a orm o a ghost (Bhuta),
the expert illusionist
Mahamada(Muhammad)
appeared at night in ront
o king Bhojaraja and
said: O king, your religionis o course known as
the best religion among
all. Still I am going to
establish a terrible and
demoniac religion by the
order o the Lord . The
symptoms o my ollowers
will be that they rst o
all will cut their genitals,
have no shikha, but having
beard, be wicked, make
noise loudly and eateverything. They should
eat animals without
perorming any rituals.
This is my opinion. They
will perorm puricatory
act with the musala or
a pestle as you puriy
your things with kusha.
Thereore, they will be
known as musalman, the
corrupters o religion.
Thus the demoniac religion
will be ounded by me.Ater having heard all
this the king came back
to his palace and that
ghost(Muhammad) went
back to his place.
The intelligent king,Bhojaraj established the
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language o Sanskrit
in three varnas the
brahmanas, kshatriyas
and vaisyas and or the
shudras he established
prakrita-bhasha, the
ordinary language spoken
by common men. Ater
ruling his kingdom or
50 years, he went to
the heavenly planet. Themoral laws established
by him were honored
even by the demigods.
The arya-varta, the pious
land is situated between
Vindhyacala and Himacala
or the mountains known
as Vindhya and Himalaya.
The Aryans reside there,
but varna-sankaras reside
on the lower part o
Vindhya. The musalman
people were kept on theother side o the river
Sindhu.
On the island o Barbara,
Tusha and many others
also the ollowers o
Isamsiha were alsosituated as they were
managed by a king or
demigods.
Note This: Lord Shiva
said: O king Bhojaraja,you should go to the place
called Mahakakshvara,
that land is called
Vahika and now is being
contaminated by the
mlecchas. In that terrible
country there no longer
exists dharma. There was
a mystic demon named
Tripura(Tripurasur), whom
I have already burnt to
ashes, he has come again
by the order o Bali.He has no origin but he
achieved a benediction
rom me. His name is
Mahamada(Muhammad)
and his deeds are like that
o a ghost.
According to Bhavishya
Purana Muhammad was
the rebirth o Tripurasura
the Demon. Tripurasura
was killed by Shiva in
his(Tripurasuras) past
lie. Tripurasuras Past
lie (Mythology[not rom
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bhavishya purana])
source(http://www.
ashtavinayaktemples.com/
temple.
Tripurasur was the son
o Sage Gritsamad. One
day the sage sneezed and
rom this was created a
young boy who the Sage
brought up as his ownson. The sage taught the
boy the Ganana Twam,
Ganesh Mantra. Equipped
with this mantra the
boy meditated intensely
on Lord Ganesh who
ultimately blessed him. He
was given three pura-s o
gold silver and iron. Since
he was the owner o these
three pura-s he was given
the name Tripur. Ganesh
also bestowed on Tripurto be the most powerul,
who none but Lord Shiva
himsel could destroy
and ater being destroyed
by Lord Shiva he would
attain mukti-salvation.
This boon made Tripur
proud and he brought
havoc in the entire world.
He conquered the Nether
world and then proceeded
to takeover Heaven. He
deeated Indra the king
o heaven. His aggression
made Lord Brahma hide
in a lotus and Lord Vishnu
in the Shirsagar. He
soon also took over LordShivas Kailash Parvat
and thus became the King
o all the three worlds. The
gods wondered on how
to vanquish Tripurasur.
Lord Narada told them
that, since he had been
granted a boon by Lord
Ganesh himsel it would be
very dicult to vanquish
him. He advised them to
meditate on Lord Ganesh.
Pleased Lord Ganeshdecided to help the Gods.
Disguised as brahmin he
visited Tripurasur and
told him that he was a
very enlightened Brahmin
and could make or himthree fying planes. Riding
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these he woud be able to
go anywhere he wished
within minutes. The planes
could only be destroyed
by Shiva.In return Lord
Ganesh asked him to
get him the statue o
Chintamani which was
at the Kailash Mountain.
Lord Shiva reused to give
the statue to Tripurasursmessenger. The angry
Tripurasur himsel went
to get the statue. A erce
battle started between
him and Lord Shiva. He
destroyed everything that
belonged to the Lord
Shiva who too retired to
the Girikandar.
Lord Shiva too realized
that he was unable
to destroy Tripurasur
because he had not paid
his respects to Lord
Ganesh. He recited the
Shadaakshar Mantra to
invoke Ganesh. On doing so
rom his mouth emerged
Gajanan to grant Shivaa boon. Shiva continued
his invocation o Ganesh
who ultimately directed
him on how Tripurasur
could be killed. Lord Shiva
was asked to recite the
Sahastranam and then
direct an arrow at the
three pura-s o Tripurasur.
Lord Shiva ollowed these
instructions and nally
vanquished Tripurasur.
The place where Lord
Shiva invoked Lord
Ganesh he also created a
temple or him. The town
surrounding this temple
was called Manipur. The
village Ranjangaon is
considered to be the place
where Lord Shiva himsel
sought the blessings o
Ganesh and ultimately
destroyed Tripurasur.
This prayer (chalisa)
praises the Lord Shiva
(Related to Tripurasura
killing)
Tripurasur sang yuddha
machayi,
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sabahin kripa kari leen
bachayi.
By ghting and killing the
Demon Tripurasur,
You orgave everybody and
saved the Gods.
Mlechha (meaning)
(rom Sanskrit dictionary)
mleccha
1 A barbarian,a non
Aryan ( One not speaking
the Sanskrit Language or
not conorm in to Hindu
or Aryan institutions),a
oreigner in general
2 An Outcast, a very low
man, Bodhayana thus
denes the word:
gomAmsakhAdako yastu
viruddhaM bahubhAshhate| sarvAchAravihInashcha
mlechchha ityabhidhiiyate
He who eats cows meat,
and speaks a lot against
shastras and he, who is
also devoid o all orms ospiritual practice, is called
a mlechha.
3 A sinner, A wicked
person, A savage or
barbarian race etc
Paisachya (meaning)
(rom Sanskrit dictionary)
Paisachya
Demonical, Inernal
Tripurasura
Asura (meaning)
(rom Sanskrit dictionary)
Asura
1 An evil spirit,demon
2 A general name or the
enemies o Gods,
In the next part o the
series, we shall critically
examine the claim o
Prophet Muhammad in
Vedas.
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Let us now critically
examine the claim o
Muhammad in Vedas.
You can read the
original article at http://
www.ir.net/index.php?option=com_content
&view=article&id=201&It
emid=131
Let me declare at outset
that Vedas contain no
history or geographywhatsoever and contain
description o undamental
principles governing lie
and universe in a variety o
manner. There are indeed
names o several historicalpersons in Vedas. But
that does not mean that
Vedas prophesise those
people. It only means
that those words were
popular and people chose
to adopt these names. Iwe nd mention o word
Krishna in Mahabharat
or Vedas, it does not mean,
they prophesise about Lal
Krishna Advani! By that
logic, Bible prophesises
about all people born with
name George and Islamic
texts about people named
Muhammad, Ali etc!
I shall not dwell into the
concept o Vedas being
beyond prophecies, history
and geography in this
analysis. On contrary, we
shall prove that even i we
assume Vedas to contain
prophecies, that can no
way be associated withProphet Muhammad,
unless IRF believes that
Prophet Muhammad was
a mass murderer and
protector o cows, as we
shall see later. And i
indeed they believe so, letthem issue a world-wide
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atwa to start donating
cows, stop eating bee and
admitting that Prophet
Muhammad killed the
entire population o
Mecca! Just as they would
be issuing a atwa that
Prophet Muhammad was
a ghost/demon incarnate
in name o Tripurasur (as
per Bhavishya Puran).Going urther, they should
also then accept the
theory o rebirth!
I shall quote the text
published at IRF website
as IRF: and the analysiso the same as Analysis:
The actual meanings o
the mantras will be quotes
as Actual:
1. Prophet Muhammad
(pbuh) Prophesised in
Atharvaveda
IRF:
In the 20th book o
Atharvaveda Hymn 127
Some Suktas (chapters)are known as Kuntap
Sukta. Kuntap means the
consumer o misery and
troubles. Thus meaning
the message o peace and
saety and i translated in
Arabic means Islam.
Analysis:
1. By this logic, all books
o spiritualism and sel-
help and their contentwould mean Islam!
Because Peace and
removal o misery are
the primary goals o any
spiritual text on sel-help
book.
2. Considering that
Vedas came way beore
Muhammad ounded
Islam, this only means
that whatever peaceul
or good was brought by
Muhammad in Islam
was actually already a
part o Vedic traditions.
And that the word Islam
was already existing
way beore Muhammad
adapted it to name hiscult.
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It is welcoming that
Muslims are now
acknowledging that they
owe their peaceulness
to Vedas. I hope they
would take this journey o
seeking truth even urther
and completely embrace
the Vedas to reach their
original roots.
IRF:
Kuntap also means hidden
glands in the abdomen.
These mantras are called
so probably because their
true meaning was hidden
and was to be revealed in
uture. Its hidden meaning
is also connected with the
navel or the middle point
o this earth. Makkah is
called the Ummul Qura
the mother o the townsor the naval o the earth.
In many revealed books
it was the rst house o
Divine worship where God
Almighty gave spiritual
nourishment to the world.
The Quran says in Surah
Ali-Imran chapter 3, verse
96:
The rst house (o
worship) appointed or
men was that at Bakkah(Makkah) ull o blessings
and o guidance and or
all kinds o beings. Thus
Kuntap stands or Makkah
or Bakkah.
Analysis:
1. Which dictionary states
that Kuntaap means
hidden glands in the
abdomen?
2. Further, even i it means
so, as researched by Dr
Naik, how does it link with
navel? In abdomen, all
other organs are hidden
inside liver, stomach,
intestine etc. It is only the
navel which is not hidden!
3. The third line o IRF
quote obviously reers to
Islamic belie o earth
being fat, and Muhammad
being born in centre o
the earth! But as perVedas and modern science,
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earth is almost spherical
and hence all points on it
can be considered middle
point.
4. Had Mecca (Makkah)
been on Equator, perhaps
some credibility could
have been attached to IRF
claims. But as per modern
science, in a non-fat
world, Mecca lies at 21-29
N. It is not even on Tropic
o Cancer!
(The importance given
to Mecca in Islam is
because o historical
reasons dating prior to
advent o Islam. The
worship o Mecca was so
popular that Muhammad
could not have spread
Islam by opposing it. So
a religion that claims toworship only the shapeless,
omnipresent Allah would
still seek to ace Mecca
and visit it at least once to
get passport to Paradise.
As per some historical
researches, there was a
Hindu temple in Mecca.
The story o Mecca being
navel o earth seems
to indicate that there
was a grand statute o
reclining Vishnu there with
Brahma coming to rom
his navel, as indicated by
certain researches. This
is a popular Hindu image
and may have led to story
o Mecca being navel oearth, in dark ages.)
But no way, can Kuntaap
be implied to mean
Mecca!
5. The logic o IRF is
abulous:
Kuntaapa = abdominal
glands = navel = center
= center o the earth =
Mecca
hence, Kuntaapa = Mecca
Lets use IRF logic on
Islam itsel and see where
it leads us:
Poison = Death = Rest =
Peace = Islam
hence, Poison = Islam
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So rom IRF evidence
itsel, there is cold, hard
proo that Islam is
Poison!
IRF:
Several people have
translated these Kuntap
Suktas like M. Bloomeld,
Pro. Ralph Grith,
Pandit Rajaram, PanditKhem Karan, etc.
Analysis:
1. O the translators
mentioned by IRF, two are
western indologists who
had their own Christian
agenda. They can no way
be considered relevant or
understanding o Vedas.
2. But interestingly, even
they talk o nothing
even remotely related to
Muhammad or Mecca
in the alleged verses.
The only common point
perhaps is the word camel.
It seems that IRF team
rantically searched orvarious mantras reerring
to camel in Vedas, and
chose to interpret them,
as per their own agenda,
as would soon be evident.
Readers can review the
Grith translation o
these mantras at http://
www.sacred-texts.com/
hin/av/av20127.htm and
decide themselves. They
can review translationso other scholars
mentioned by IRF and
check truth themselves.
We shall provide excerpts
rom translation by
Pandit Khem Karan as
illustration. You can
check them at http://
www.aryasamajjamnagar.
org/atharvaveda_v2/
atharvaveda.htm
3. In their pursuit o
searching mantras with
reerence to camel, IRF
made another blunder. The
Kuntaap Sukta appear at
end o Atharvaveda and
are not considered to be
part o Veda Samhita,but merely an addendum
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(Khil Bhaag or Appendix)
by many scholars. This is
the only portion in entire
Vedas that have such
a dierence in opinion
among scholars. Had IRF
chosen any other Sukta/
Hymn in more than 20000
mantras o Vedas, they
would have been much
saer. Thus Kuntaap whichIRF proved to mean
sae is not that sae
to deend their claim o
Muhammad in Vedas!
IRF:
The main points mentioned
in the Kuntap Suktas i.e.
in Atharvaveda book 20
Hymn 127 verses 1-13
are:
Mantra 1
He is Narashansah or the
praised one (Muhammad).
He is Kaurama: the prince
o peace or the emigrant,
who is sae, even amongst
a host o 60,090 enemies.
Mantra 2
He is a camel-riding Rishi,
whose chariot touches the
heaven.
Mantra 3
He is Mamah Rishi who is
given a hundred gold coins,
ten chaplets (necklaces),
three hundred good steeds
and ten thousand cows.
Mantra 4
Vachyesv rebh. Oh! ye
who glories.
Analysis:
Mantra 1
Actual Meaning
(Pandit Khem Karan):
Narashanshah or the
praised one shall be
praised. O Kauram one
who dwells happily on
earth, we shall receive
60090 kinds o gits rom
those brave ones who have
destroyed violent ones.
Mantra 2, 3
Actual Meaning (PanditKhem Karan): His chariot
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has twenty ast-moving
camels and she-camels.
He donated 100 gold
coins, 10 garlands, 300
horses and 10000 cows to
deserving people.
Mantra 4
Actual Meaning (Pandit
Khem Karan): Keep
preaching in the manner
a bird chirps on a tree
laden with ruits till death
comes.
So ar, nothing seems odd
about the meanings given
by IRF or other scholars.
The only dierences is
that certain terms have
subtly been introduced
to set the context or
proving Muhammad inthese mantras. In modern
parlance, this technique is
called covert persuasion.
Note that so ar nothing
hints at Muhammad
except that there is a
mention o camel!
Now let us enjoy the IRF
research magic!
IRF:
The Sanskrit word
Narashansah means the
praised one, which is the
literal translation o the
Arabic word Muhammad
(pbuh).
Analysis:
1. The Arabic term b-ismi-
llhi r-ramni r-ram
which is uttered beore
every verse o Quran
is literal translation o
Dayanand ki Jai. Does
it mean that Quran sings
glory o Dayanand? Now
Dayanand has been the
strongest critic o Quran
ever. So does it mean
that Quran admits thatDayanand is right?
2. Again this is nothing
but Poison = Death = Rest
= Peace = Islam, hence
Islam = Poison ( we shall
keep revisiting this logicwherever IRF uses the
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same logic as well)
IRF:
The Sanskrit word
Kaurama means one who
spreads and promotes
peace. The holy Prophet
was the Prince o Peace
and he preached equality
o human kind and
universal brotherhood.Kaurama also means an
emigrant. The Prophet
migrated rom Makkah
to Madinah and was thus
also an Emigrant.
Analysis:
1. Kaurama means one
who dwells peaceully
on earth. Now history is
evident o how peaceul
has Prophets lie been,
how many peaceul battleshe waged, how peaceully
he conquered Mecca and
how peaceul is Islamic
concept o brotherhood
or non-believers in Quran/
Prophet.
2. The way Prophet
migrated rom Makkah
to Madinah, has been
replicated by millions
throughout the history.
One can hardly name a
historically amous person
who becomes amous
without moving around!
Krishna migrated rom
Vrindawan to Mathura
and then to Dwarka.Also Krishna has several
meanings which mean
promoter o peace and
praised one. So this verse
equally applies to him as
well!
3. Again the logic is same:
Poison = Death = Rest =
Peace = Islam
IRF:
He will be protected rom
60,090 enemies, which
was the population o
Makkah.
Analysis:
From which census
did IRF nd out thispopulation gure? Or is
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yet another revelation?
IRF:
The Prophet would ride
a camel. This clearly
indicates that it cannot be
an Indian Rishi, since it is
orbidden or a Brahman
to ride a camel according
to the Sacred Books o
the East, volume 25,Laws o Manu pg. 472.
According to Manu Smirti
chapter 11 verse 202, A
Brahman is prohibited
rom riding a camel or an
ass and to bathe naked. He
should puriy himsel by
suppressing his breath.
Analysis:
1. The mantra says
allegorically that the
chariot o the king willhave twenty male and
emale camels. Even i
we take it literally, did
Muhammad ever travel
on such a camel-chariot?
And is Prophet the only
camel-rider on earth ever
in history?
2. The mantra talks about
a king who is a Kshatriya
and not a Brahman. So
the relevant excerpt rom
Manu is not applicable in
rst place.
3. Vedas nowhere prohibit
camel-ride or anyone.
4. Manu Smriti has been
written much ater Vedas.So evidence o Manu
Smriti is not applicable
in rst place. Also the
particular shloka rom
Manu Smriti is considered
a later day interpolation
by many scholars. In act
hal o the Manu Smriti
is considered interpolated
because it is against
the Vedas, which Manu
himsel declares to be
most supreme.
5. But even i we agree
to this shloka o Manu
Smriti, it is not applicable
or relevant in context
o given mantras o
Atharvaveda. Furtherthe shloka simply states
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that i a Brahman has
to ride on a camel, he
can puriy himsel by
doing Pranayam. It does
not say that Brahman
is banned rom riding
camel. And the mantra
or the entire Sukta has
no reerence to Brahman
whatsoever. It talks about
battle and war, which isprerogative o Kshatriya
and not Brahman, as per
traditional Manu system.
IRF:
This mantra gave the
Rishis name as Mamah.
No rishi in India or
another Prophet had this
name Mamah which is
derived rom Mah which
means to esteem highly,
or to revere, to exalt, etc.Some Sanskrit books
give the Prophets name
as Mohammad, but
this word according to
Sanskrit grammar can
also be used in the bad
sense. It is incorrect to
apply grammar to an
Arabic word. Actually
shas the same meaning
and somewhat similar
pronunciation as the word
Muhammad (pbuh).
Analysis:
1. The word Mamahe
is used in the 3rd
mantra o 127th sukta
o Atharvaveda and notMamah. There is a
world o dierence as we
will see in next point. The
derivation as given by IRF
is their own independent
research not corroborated
by any text on grammar.
2. The word Mamahe has
been used as a verb here,
meaning We give and
NOT a noun.
3. Further the word hasbeen used in plural and
not singular. So it can not
denote a singular person
by wildest stretch o
imagination.
4. I the word Mamahehas to mean a noun
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Muhammad in this
mantra, the mantra
becomes meaningless.
Because Mamahe is the
ONLY verb in the entire
mantra. And no sentence
can have any meaning
without presence o even a
single verb!
IRF:
He is given 100 gold
coins, which reers to the
believers and the earlier
companions o the Prophet
during his turbulent
Makkan lie. Later on
due to persecution they
migrated rom Makkah
to Abysinia. Later when
Prophet migrated to
Madinah all o them
joined him in Madinah.
Analysis:
1. Suddenly, gold coins
have turned into believers
with Prophet in his Mecca
times!
2. No text o Islam statesthat his ollowers were
100 in number initially.
Some biographers do hint
at 40 ollowers, but 100
seems to be another new
revelation. Reer http://
www.religionacts.com/
islam/history/prophet.htm
Thus this is the Prophetic
imagination taken too ar!
IRF:
The 10 chaplets or
necklaces were the 10 best
companions o the Holy
Prophet (pbuh) known as
Ashra-Mubbashshira (10
bestowed with good news).These were oretold in this
world o their salvation
in the hereater i.e. they
were given the good news
o entering paradise by
the Prophets own lips and
ater naming each one he
said in Paradise. They
were Abu Bakr, Umar,
Uthman, Ali, Talha, Zubair,
Abdur Rahman Ibn Au,
Saad bin Abi Waqqas,
Saad bin Zaid and AbuUbaidah (May Allah be
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well-pleased with all o
them).
Analysis:
1. What made IRF
think that necklace
can mean companions?
Merely the act that 10
companions o Prophet
are very amous in Islamic
olklores? Almost allProphets o Islam roamed
in desert and hence were
camel riders.
2. So why cant this mean
Ten Commandments o
Moses, by same logic!
IRF:
The Sanskrit word Go is
derived rom Gaw which
means to go to war. A
cow is also called Go
and is a symbol o war
as well as peace. The
10,000 cows reer to
the 10,000 companions
who accompanied the
Prophet (pbuh) when he
entered Makkah duringFateh Makkah which
was a unique victory in
the history o mankind
in which there was no
blood shed. The 10,000
companions were pious
and compassionate like
cows and were at the same
time strong and erce and
are described in the Holy
Quran in Surah Fatah:
Muhammad is the
Messenger o Allah;
and those who are with
him are strong against
unbelievers, (but)
compassionate amongst
each other.
[Al-Quran 48:29]
Analysis:
1. This is yet another
research o Dr Naik that
Go means to go to war.Go indeed means a lot o
things in various mantras
depending on the context
Cow, Earth, Moving Body
etc. But in the current
context, where the subject
is o donation, the obvious
meaning is Cow.
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Donation o Cow has
been a longstanding Vedic
tradition still practiced
and respected. All Vedic
legends were preservers
and protectors o cow. All
noble Vedic kings were
known to donate cows.
Cow orms the backbone
o Vedic civilization and
Hinduism.
This is where IRF comes
in tight spot. Because
contrary to donating
cows, Muhammad and
his ollowers till today
are known to be thebiggest tribe o cow-
killers. They take pride in
killing cows in Id. Thus,
this reerence to donating
10000 cows is sucient
enough to prove the most
sceptic mind that these
mantras have anything
even remotely to do with
Prophet Muhammad or
any o his predecessors or
successors.
2. It is even more hilarious
to see the comparison o
10000 companions o
Muhammad with cow. I
they mean cow, then cow
cannot mean to go at war
in this mantra. Because
the same word cannot
mean two completely
dierent things in same
context.
3. I indeed Muslims
consider cows to be
compassionate and pious,
as described in IRF
article, what makes them
kill these cows in name
o Allah? What makes
Muhammad a cow-killer ithat be so?
4. In act in this mantra,
to make sense in lines
o IRF propaganda,
Go has to mean three
things to go at war (averb), symbol o peace
and symbol o war, all at
the same time! It has to
be a verb and a noun at
the same time! Because
Mamahe the only verb
in the mantra has been
deliberately interpreted
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as a noun in this mantra
by IRF experts. Thus this
would have to be the only
sentence o its kind in
history o language where
a word is a verb and two
nouns at same time, and
another word which is
supposed to be a verb is
now a noun.
Sounds conusing, right?
But then conusion alone
can breed such blinded
theories!
IRF:
This mantra calls theProphet as Rebh which
means one who praises,
which when translated into
Arabic is Ahmed, which is
another name or the Holy
Prophet (pbuh).
Analysis:
Again the same logic o
1. Poison = Death = Rest
= Peace = Islam
=> Poison = Islam
2. b-ismi-llhi r-ramni
r-ram is another way o
saying Dayanand ki Jai!
Battle o the Allies
described in the Vedas.
IRF:
It is mentioned in
Atharvaveda Book XX
Hymn 21 verse 6, Lord
o the truthul! These
liberators drink these
eats o bravery and the
inspiring songs gladdened
thee in the eld o battle.
When thou renders
vanquished without
ght the ten thousandopponents o the praying
one, the adoring one.
This Prophecy o the
Veda describes the well-
known battle o Ahzab
or the battle o the Alliesduring the time o Prophet
Muhammed. The Prophet
was victorious without an
actual confict which is
mentioned in the Quran in
Surah Ahzab:
When the believers saw
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the conederate orces they
said, This is what Allah
and His Messenger had
promised us and Allah
and His Messenger told
us what was true. And
it only added to their
aith and their zeal in
obedience.
[Al-Quran 33:22]
The Sanskrit word karo
in the Mantra means the
praying one which when
translated into Arabic
means Ahmed, the
second name o Prophet
Muhammed (pbuh).
The 10,000 opponents
mentioned in the Mantra
were the enemies o the
Prophet and the Muslims
were only 3000 in number.
The last words o the
Mantra aprati ni bashayah
means the deeat was
given to the enemies
without an actual ght.
Analysis:
Actual Meaning (Pandit
Khem Karan): O
Protector o Truthul!
You have been pleased
by those brave ones who
produce bliss, by acts o
bravery and noble passion
in wars against the
enemies. Through smart
action oriented zeal, ten
thousand enemies have
been deeated withoutresistance.
1. I indeed it means
Battle o Ahzab, why is
the number o soldiers in
Prophets army not given?
2. The phrase Dash Sahsra
or its variants are used in
several places in Vedas to
signiy a large number or
limitlessness.
3. There is no word as
Karo in the mantra. The
closest sounding word in
the mantra is Karave
which DOES NOT mean
praying one. It means
or the action-oriented.
NO name o Muhammadmeans action-oriented.
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So any connection
with Muhammad is
categorically ruled out.
4. The mantra reers tospiritual battle where the
mind destroys innumerable
varieties o negative
thoughts through practice
and meditation o positive
things in lie. And hence
the victory is bloodless.
The sukta can also be
interpreted to explain
strategies o war. But no
way does it, or any mantra
in Vedas reers to any kind
o history.
IRF team is advised to
consult the Vedic experts
to understand the hidden
treasures and deep
essence o Vedic mantras
and come back to theiroriginal roots, rejecting
the alsehood.
IRF:
The enemies deeat in the
conquest o Makkah is
mentioned in Atharvaveda
book 20 Hymn 21 verse
no 9:
You have O Indra,
overthrown 20 kings
and 60,099 men with anoutstripping Chariot wheel
who came to ght the
praised one or ar amed
(Muhammad) orphan.
The population o Makkah
at the time o Prophetsadvent was nearly 60,000.
There were several clans
in Makkah each having
its own chie. Totally there
were about 20 chies to
rule the population o
Makkah. An Abandhu
meaning a helpless man
who was ar-amed and
praised one. Muhammad
(pbuh) overcame his
enemies with the help o
God.
Analysis:
1. There is no census data
to validate that Mecca had
a population o 60,000 in
Muhammads era except
IRF research based on
their own revealed sources.
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2. Literal translation o
this mantra means that
60000 plus enemies
and their 20 kings were
crushed under the chariots.
By this logic, there should
be 60,000 soldiers in
the battleeld. I that be
so, it means that entire
population o Mecca
ought against Muhammadand were killed by him. I
that be so, i this mantra
be a true Prophecy,
Muhammad cannot be
a symbol o peace. On
contrary, it proves that
Muhammad carried out
a mass genocide o entire
Mecca population because
they reused to accept him
as their dictator! Then,
Islam remains a religion
o peace only in Arabicdictionary, and not in
reality!
3. In reality, this Balttle o
Mecca was as small tribal
battle where 900-1000
soldiers and 300 soldierso Islam have supposed
to have ought or a ew
hours, as per Islamic
experts. And not more
than 10 leaders are known
to have participated
rom Meccan side. Thus
neither the number 20,
nor 60000 in mantra has
any reerence to this tiny
battle.
4. This sukta actually
details spiritual battle
in the mind as is evident
rom other mantras in the
sukta. The same strategies
can be extended to
external war as well. But ithas no inkling o relation
with any tribal war.
And i still, it is assumed
to have so, it only means
Muhammad was a mass-
killer. IRF experts candecide what they want to
accept.
III. Muhammad (pbuh)
prophesised in the Rigveda
IRF:
A similar prophecy is also
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ound in Rigveda Book I,
Hymn 53 verse 9:
The Sanskrit word used is
Sushrama, which meanspraiseworthy or well
praised which in Arabic
means Muhammad (pbuh).
Analysis:
1. Literally translated,
the meaning is similar to
previous verse, implying
Muhammad carried a
mass-genocide o 60000
plus people to rule Mecca
2. Sushravasa means a
good listener or a reliable
riend in this mantra,
nothing to do with
Muhammad.
3. Even i its means well
praised, it only means
that Muhammad was
well-praised by his men
or carrying carnage o
60000 people o Mecca!
It is in best interest o
IRF to not harp on such
attempts to discover
Muhammad in Vedas
which only denigrate
him. Their research o
Muhammad in Bhavishya
Puran has already proved
him a demon and a ghost
Tripurasur!
IV. Muhummad (pbuh)
is also prophesised in the
Samveda
IRF:
Prophet Muhammad
(pbuh) is also prophesised
in the Samveda Book II
Hymn 6 verse 8:
Ahmed acquired rom
his Lord the knowledge
o eternal law. I received
light rom him just as rom
the sun. The Prophecy
conrms:
The name o the Prophet
as Ahmed since Ahmed
is an Arabic name. Many
translators misunderstood
it to be Ahm at hi and
translated the mantra as
I alone have acquired
the real wisdom o myather.
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Prophet was given eternal
law, i.e. the Shariah.
The Rishi was enlightened
by the Shariah o ProphetMuhammad. The Quran
says in Surah Saba
chapter 34 verse 28
We have not sent
thee but as a universal
(Messenger) to men,giving them glad tidings
and warning them (against
sin), but most men
understand not.
Analysis:
This is laughing Jehad at
its best. The aim to kill
indels by making them
laugh like anything.
1. I tried my best to
locate this mantra in the
Samaveda but could not.
Maybe i they can provide
the exact mantra, that
would help.
2. Aham At Hi is
authentic Sanskrit way
o expression. And in
joining o words, t
becomes d. For example,
Sat + Aachaar =
SaDaachaar. Hi means
only.
3. I indeed Vedas
predicted word Ahmad
which is Arabic word, does
it mean Arabic is older
than Vedic Sanskrit?
4. I Vedas could predictupto Ahmad and
number o his armymen
and companion, what
prevented Vedas rom
predicting his actual name
Muhammad? Why did
Allah create so much
o conusion? Had he
simply put the biography
o Muhammad in a ew
mantras clearly spelling
his name, crores o people
would have been convincedo Prophets coming and
would have prevented
themselves rom going to
Hell! Allah must be crazy
as per IRF research, then!
General Analysis
1. I indeed Vedas have
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prophecy on Muhammad,
why are they not in one
place. In an ocean o
20000 mantras, there
are only 7 mantras
about Prophet, the most
important topic o the
Vedas who would change
the entire structure o
Vedic concept topsy-
turvy! These too aredistributed randomly and
none clearly spelled the
name o Muhammad. They
only mean Muhammad
in same way as Islam
means Poison. Was it that
Allah was still conused
about the name o his last
Prophet?
2. I indeed Vedas predict
that Muhammad would
kill so many people and
make 10 his companion,
it means that Allah had
already decided that
these people would be
killed by Muhammad and
dispatched to Hell. He had
pre-decided the ate othese people millenniums
beore he gave them birth
on earth! Does it not
make Allah unjust and
biased?
3. I indeed Vedas could
predict Muhammad and
his lie, why is IRF and
Muslim world shy about
embracing Vedas as Books
o God? Why he has to
write in FAQ on Hinduism
that Vedas may or MAY
NOT be book o God?
4. And i Vedas can predict
Muhammad, and they talk
o concepts which clearly
contradict Quran, which
one should be believed?
Ater all Quran was
written 20 years ater
Muhammads death, there
was no oral tradition o
memorizing and protecting
Quran in Muhammads
times and his avorite
ollowers were ghting
o each others lives ater
Muhammad died! So how
can we trust Quran to beauthentic?
8/8/2019 Prophet in Hindu Scriptures
38/38
But Vedas have an oral
tradition since its inception
and inbuilt mechanism to
prevent any interpolation
o even a syllable. So
they are denitely the
most protected books o
the world. So should not
IRF, Dr Zakir Naik and
his ollowers return to
their roots which are soaccurate, unchanged and
so strong in predicting
uture?
Further, they predict
Muhammad as nothing
but mass-murderer, byIRFs own research in
Vedas! Their research in
Bhavishya Puran proved
him to be a ghost or
demon called Tripurasur
who is supposed to bring
lot o nuisance in the
world! (Kindly reer to
previous part o this
series)
They say that lie has no
eet! Hence it gets you
t a d!
I appeal to all my lost
riends IRF, Dr Zakir
Naik, his riends and his
ollowers - to explore
the real praiseworthy, the
real Narashansah in the
Vedas, the Ishwar and
reject alse prophecies
about alse prophets. Such
alsehood can only trap
you in your own mistakennotions in same way as
this alsehood has trapped
you logically without any
room or escape.
I appeal to them to stop
believing in and spreadingmyths and return back to
their original path the
path o Truth and Reason!
Only then can peace be on
him (pbuh)!