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Per Amundsen Company Secretary & Head of Research Thinktank Property Investing: Debt or Equity? SMSF + Investor Event

Property Investing: Debt or Equity? - SMSF Connect€¦ · SMSF + Investor Event Per Amundsen Company Secretary & Head of Research Thinktank Prior to Thinktank, Per was General Manager

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Page 1: Property Investing: Debt or Equity? - SMSF Connect€¦ · SMSF + Investor Event Per Amundsen Company Secretary & Head of Research Thinktank Prior to Thinktank, Per was General Manager

Per AmundsenCompany Secretary & Head of ResearchThinktank

Property Investing: Debt or Equity?

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Per AmundsenCompany Secretary & Head of ResearchThinktank

Prior to Thinktank, Per was General Manager of AMP Property Finance, building a book of $1.5 billion in SME commercial property loans. An executive member of the Australian Risk Management Association, Per is a respected senior executive bringing an enormous amalgamation of property finance experience from institutions including Toronto Dominion, Westpac and Mirvac.

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Per AmundsenCompany Secretary & Head of ResearchThinktank

Australian tax environment &SMSF Investment Portfolio Data

• Australian tax environment has made owning Australian equities & direct property attractive

• Growth in assets held within SMSF’s from 2004-2007

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Listed equities & trusts Unlisted equities & trusts

Cash, term deposits & debt securities Real property

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SMSF + Investor Event

Per AmundsenCompany Secretary & Head of ResearchThinktank

RBA Cash Rate & GFC

• Cash rate allowed investors to generate income from bank products prior to 2008

• SMSF trustees faced with the GFC in 2008

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Per AmundsenCompany Secretary & Head of ResearchThinktank

Post-GFC interest rates & SMSF asset allocation

• SMSF trustees began to increase their holdings in equities & bank products as investors regained confidence in the markets

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Listed equities & trusts Unlisted equities & trusts

Cash, term deposits & debt securities Residential real property

Non-residential real property

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SMSF + Investor Event

Per AmundsenCompany Secretary & Head of ResearchThinktank

Bull market run into 2019

• Post 2012 equities & bank products have risen by 60% & 30% respectively within SMSFs

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Listed equities & trusts Unlisted equities & trusts

Cash, term deposits & debt securities Residential real property

Non-residential real property

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SMSF + Investor Event

Per AmundsenCompany Secretary & Head of ResearchThinktank

2019 challenges impacting SMSF trustees

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SMSF + Investor Event

Per AmundsenCompany Secretary & Head of ResearchThinktank

Income generation from investing in commercial property

• Stable income over the last 10 years despite capital volatility

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SMSF + Investor Event

Per AmundsenCompany Secretary & Head of ResearchThinktank

Income generation from investing in commercial property

• Stable income across all sectors

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SMSF + Investor Event

Per AmundsenCompany Secretary & Head of ResearchThinktank

Retail v industrial v office

• E-commerce has changed the way shoppers shop and as such has had a negative effect on retail property prices.

• Office & industrial are in high demand with low vacancy rates and limited future supply

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Per AmundsenCompany Secretary & Head of ResearchThinktank

Retail v industrial v office

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SMSF + Investor Event

Per AmundsenCompany Secretary & Head of ResearchThinktank

How can SMSF trustees access commercial property?

Page 13: Property Investing: Debt or Equity? - SMSF Connect€¦ · SMSF + Investor Event Per Amundsen Company Secretary & Head of Research Thinktank Prior to Thinktank, Per was General Manager

SMSF + Investor Event

Per AmundsenCompany Secretary & Head of ResearchThinktank

How can SMSF trustees access commercial property?

Equity exposure• AREITs• Listed Property Trusts• Direct Ownership• Unlisted Property Trusts• Property syndicates

Debt exposure• Marketplace

lending/fractionalized debt platforms

• Pooled mortgage funds

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SMSF + Investor Event

Per AmundsenCompany Secretary & Head of ResearchThinktank

Income generation from investing in commercial property

• Stable income over the last 10 years despite capital volatility

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Per AmundsenCompany Secretary & Head of ResearchThinktank

DisclaimerThis information has been prepared on a strictly confidential basis by Think Tank Group PtyLtd (“Thinktank”) and may neither be reproduced in whole nor in part, nor may any of itscontents be divulged to any third party without the prior written consent of Thinktank. Thisinformation is not intended to create legal relations and is not binding on Thinktank underany circumstances whatsoever. This information has been prepared in good faith and isbased on information obtained from sources believed to be reliable, however Thinktankdoes not make any representation or warranty that it is accurate, complete or up to date.The information may be based on certain assumptions or market conditions, and if thoseassumptions or market conditions change, the information may change. No independentverification of the information has been made. Any quotes given are indicative only. No partof this information is to be construed as a solicitation to buy or sell any product, or toengage in, or refrain from engaging in, any transaction.To the extent permitted by law, Thinktank nor any of its associates, directors, officers oremployees, or any other person, makes any promise, guarantee, representation orwarranty, either express or implied, to any person as to the accuracy or completeness ofthis information, or of any other information, materials or opinions, whether written or oral,that have been, or maybe, prepared or furnished by Thinktank, including, without limitation,economic and financial projections and risk evaluation. No responsibility or liabilitywhatsoever (in negligence or otherwise) is accepted by any person for any errors, mis-statements or omissions in this information or any other information or materials. Withoutprejudice to the foregoing, neither Thinktank, nor any of its associates, directors, officers,employees nor any other person shall be liable for any loss or damage (whether direct,indirect or consequential) suffered by any person as a result of relying on any statement in,or omission from this information. Nothing in this information should be construed as legal,financial, accounting, tax or other advice.

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Per AmundsenCompany Secretary & Head of ResearchThinktank

Final Questions?

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