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PROPERTY A SLIDES4-17-15

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Friday April 17 Music (to Accompany Friday April 17 Music (to Accompany MacDonaldMacDonald):):

Eagles, Eagles, Hotel California Hotel California (1976)(1976)featuringfeaturing “The Last Resort” “The Last Resort”

Today: Extendo-Class (7:55-9:45)Today: Extendo-Class (7:55-9:45)

Biscayne Critique of Rev. Prob. 6D Due Biscayne Critique of Rev. Prob. 6D Due

Tomorrow @ 10amTomorrow @ 10am

Second Sample Exam Q (Optional) Due Second Sample Exam Q (Optional) Due

Tomorrow @ NoonTomorrow @ Noon

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PROPERTY A: 4/17

Fun with the English Fun with the English Language: Language:

Animals &Animals &PrepositionsPrepositions

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PROPERTY A: 4/17

Animals & PrepositionsAnimals & Prepositions

HORSES HORSES are Very Different from are Very Different from MONKEYSMONKEYS … …

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PROPERTY A: 4/17

Animals & PrepositionsAnimals & Prepositions

So Why IsSo Why Is

HORSING AROUND HORSING AROUND

the Same asthe Same as

MONKEYING AROUND?MONKEYING AROUND?

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PROPERTY A: 4/17

Animals & PrepositionsAnimals & Prepositions

And why isAnd why is

WOLFING DOWN WOLFING DOWN the same asthe same as

PIGGING OUT?PIGGING OUT?

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PROPERTY A: 4/17

Animals & Prepositions: OUT-TakesAnimals & Prepositions: OUT-Takes

The STOOL PIGEON The STOOL PIGEON

Was Going to Was Going to

RAT OUT RAT OUT

His Boss, BUT He …His Boss, BUT He …

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PROPERTY A: 4/17

Animals & Prepositions: OUT-TakesAnimals & Prepositions: OUT-Takes

The STOOL PIGEON Was Going to RAT The STOOL PIGEON Was Going to RAT OUT His Boss, BUT HeOUT His Boss, BUT He

a.a. CHICKENED OUT.CHICKENED OUT.

b.b. WORMED OUT of it.WORMED OUT of it.

c.c. BUGGED OUT.BUGGED OUT.

d.d. WEASELED OUT of it.WEASELED OUT of it.

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PROPERTY A: 4/17

Animals & PrepositionsAnimals & Prepositions

Finally, The Finally, The GoldilocksGoldilocks Proposition:Proposition:

A Careful Study of Human A Careful Study of Human Nature… Nature…

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PROPERTY A: 4/17

Animals & PrepositionsAnimals & PrepositionsThe The GoldilocksGoldilocks Proposition: A Careful Proposition: A Careful

Study of Human NatureStudy of Human Nature

BEARS OUT That Sometimes BEARS OUT That Sometimes

The Only Way To BEAR UPThe Only Way To BEAR UP

Is To BEAR DOWN Is To BEAR DOWN

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Chapter 6: Easements1. Overview & Terminology2. Interpreting Language

a. Easement v. Feeb. Scope of Express Easements

3. Implied Easementsa. By Estoppelb. By Implication and/or Necessity (cont’d) c. By Prescription

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SEWAGE PIPE HYPOTHETICAL: 6 5 4 3 2

1

E-by-I Raised: Pipes in Use Before O Sells Separate Units. E-by-N Raised: Split Creates “Landlocked” Lot b/c Sewage Disposal Must Cross Anther Lot

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Easement-by-Implication & Easement-by-Necessity: Sewage Pipe HypotheticalSewage Pipe Hypothetical

Notice Issues•What constitutes notice of underground pipes?• Actual Knowledge• Courts tend to be generous re Inquiry Notice• From any visible element (pipe ends; manhole

covers) (See Kirma cited in Williams Island @ P795) • From need for utility service + no visible access

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Easement-by-Implication & Easement-by-Necessity: Sewage Pipe HypotheticalSewage Pipe Hypothetical

Necessity Issues•Is utilities access “Necessary”?: Cases split: • Lot not worthless or landlocked (re physical access);

usually possible to get utility service at some expense.

• BUT can’t use for many purposes without new expensive utility connection

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Easement-by-Implication & Easement-by-Necessity: Sewage Pipe Hypothetical

Necessity Issues•Is utilities access “Necessary”?: Cases split •Assuming some access to utilities is necessary, how expensive must alternatives be to meet tests? • Drill through mountain ridge?• Policy: Very inefficient to reroute utility service if existing pipes

or wires (cf. Marcus Cable)

Rev. Prob. 6I: We’ll Return to Sewage Pipe Hypo & Easements-by-Implication

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Chapter 6: Easements1. Overview & Terminology2. Interpreting Language

a. Easement v. Feeb. Scope of Express Easements

3. Implied Easementsa. By Estoppelb. By Implication and/or Necessityc. By Prescription

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SHENANDOAH: Easements-by-Prescription & DQ6.08-6.11

APPALACHIAN TRAIL

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Easement-by-PrescriptionGenerally

1. Easement Created by Particular Use of Another’s Land for Adverse Possession Period

2. Need to Show Adverse Possession Elements (with Some Variations in Some States)

3. We’ll Look at Elements Individually

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Easement-by-PrescriptionElementsElements

1. [Actual] Use of Pathway2. Open & Notorious3. Continuous 4. Exclusive (Some Jurisdictions)5. Adverse/Hostile

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Easement-by-PrescriptionRedwood: [Actual] UseRedwood: [Actual] Use

1. Not listed as separate element in MacDonald but there must be some kind of use

2. Usually Straightforward; Use of, e.g., Path or Driveway

3. Sometimes Q of Whether Use is Sufficient to Constitute “Possession” and Trigger AP Claim Instead of E-by-P (See Note 3 P817)

4. MacDonald (DQ6.09): What Meets?

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Easement-by-PrescriptionRedwood: [Actual] UseRedwood: [Actual] Use

1. Not listed as separate element in MacDonald but there must be some kind of use

2. Usually Straightforward; Use of, e.g., Path or Driveway 3. Sometimes Q of Whether Use is Sufficient to Constitute

“Possession” and Trigger AP Claim Instead of E-by-P (See Note 3 P817)

4. MacDonald (DQ6.09): Golf Shots & Retrieval (Very Atypical!!!)

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Easement-by-PrescriptionRedwood: Redwood: Open & Notorious & DQ6.10 (See

P817)•Some States: Traditional Definition of O&N•Use of Path or Driveway Almost Certainly Meets

•Underground Utilities (Sewage Pipe Hypo) •Hard to Meet O&N (Like Marengo Caves)

• Could Analyze Like Notice for E-by-I or E-by-N

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Easement-by-PrescriptionShenandoah: Shenandoah: Open & Notorious & DQ6.10 (See

P817)• Some States: Traditional Definition of O&N•Some States: Require that Servient Owner Have Actual Knowledge (e.g., MacDonald)• Policy Concerns Similar to Border Disputes; Don’t Necessarily Need O in Possession to Monitor Closely

• Evidence of Actual Knowledge in MacDonald (DQ6.10): Building Restrictions in Agreement Designed to Allow Continued Use of Area in Q

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Easement-by-PrescriptionShenandoah: Shenandoah: Continuous (See P817)

•Obviously Doesn’t Need to be 24/7 for Whole SoL Period•Could Just Be Use “Throughout” Period

•Might Ask re Normal Utilization of That Type of Easement

•Can be Seasonal Use like Adverse Possession in Ray

•Evidence in Evidence in MacDonaldMacDonald (DQ6.09)? (DQ6.09)?

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Easement-by-PrescriptionShenandoah: Shenandoah: Continuous (See P817)

•Obviously Doesn’t Need to be 24/7 for Whole Statutory Period• Could just be use “throughout” period• Might Ask re Normal Utilization of That Type of Easement• Can be Seasonal Use like Adverse Possession in Ray

•Evidence in Evidence in MacDonaldMacDonald (DQ6.09): (DQ6.09): •Golf Course in Use Through Whole Period &Golf Course in Use Through Whole Period &• Steady # of Users End Up on Land in QSteady # of Users End Up on Land in Q

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Easement-by-PrescriptionShenandoah: Shenandoah: Exclusive (See P818)

• Many Jurisdictions Don’t Require • Sensible: Nature of Easement is Non-Exclusive Use• MacDonald doesn’t list as element

• Some: Means Exclusive of Everyone but Owner

• Some (TX): Shared w Owner Presumption of Permissive • Hard to overcome: • Need evidence that O didn’t give permission but didn’t

interfere.

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Easement-by-PrescriptionAdverse/Hostile & Presumptions

1.General Difficulty: Reasonable to Assume Permission If:• O in Possession of Servient Estate AND

• Use is Open & Notorious?

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Easement-by-PrescriptionAdverse/Hostile & Presumptions

1. General Difficulty: Reasonable to Assume Permission If:• O in Possession of Servient Estate AND• Use is Open & Notorious?

2.Presumptions frequently decide cases because hard to disprove.

• Shared use with the owner (e.g., of a driveway) presumed permissive (Texas). How do you disprove?

• Continuous use for AP Period presumed adverse (MacDonald). How do you disprove?

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Easement-by-PrescriptionAdverse/Hostile & Presumptions

3. Policy Q: What do you do with case like MacDonald or Dupont where visible use continues for a long time and then servient owner suddenly says no?

• Plausible to say permissive.

• Could create hybrid of prescription & estoppel: if use goes on long enough, servient owner can’t change mind.

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Easement-by-PrescriptionShenandoah: Shenandoah: Policy Questions

DQ6.08. To what extent do the rationales for AP also support E-by-P? • Clearly protect people and the legal system from being burdened with “stale” claims • Ideas re Rest?

(a) reward beneficial use of land(b) punish sleeping owners(c) recognize psychic connection to the land

• For you to consider & use to help decide close Qs.

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SEWAGE PIPE HYPOTHETICAL: 6 5 4 3 2 1

E-by-P Raised: Use of Pipes by More Distant Users for Adv. Poss. Period; Likely Qs re Open & Notorious, Exclusive

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Implied Easements Generally

Shenandoah: DQ6.11Shenandoah: DQ6.11“The best justifications for granting an implied easement are reliance and need. Thus, if claimants cannot meet the elements of an Easement by Estoppel or of an Easement by Necessity, they should not be able to get a Prescriptive Easement unless they pay market value for it.”

For you to think about.For you to think about.

(Good-Bye to Shenandoahs)(Good-Bye to Shenandoahs)

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YELLOWSTONE (DQ6.07)

GIANT GEYSER

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Easement-by-EstoppelPolicy Considerations (DQ6.07)Policy Considerations (DQ6.07)

Positive Easement-by-Estoppelas in Stoner or Dupont

Yellowstones (& ALL):Last Names A-K: Allow Emt-by-Estoppel

Last Names L-Z: Disallow Emt-by-Estoppel (or Allow Only if Compensation Paid)

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Easement-by-EstoppelPolicy Considerations (DQ6.07)Policy Considerations (DQ6.07)

Negative Easement-by-Estoppel as in Berchamer (birders purchase house after assurance that neighboring lot would stay

undeveloped)

Yellowstones (& ALL):Last Names A-K: Allow Emt-by-Estoppel

Last Names L-Z: Disallow Emt-by-Estoppel (or Allow Only if Compensation Paid)

(Good-Bye to Yellowstones)(Good-Bye to Yellowstones)

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LOGISTICS: My Priorities Today Last Class

•Note on Evaluations• Post Today’s Slides & Info Memos on Chapters 3 and 5•Complete Feedback on 1st Set of Sample Exam Answers • I’ll E-Mail You When Complete with Possible Times for Pick-Up

•Draft Exam• Feedback on Second Set of Critiques (A Little Less Thorough)• Start Feedback on 2d Set of Sample Exam Answers • I’ll Update Status-of-Feedback at Top of Course Page as I

Progress

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BISCAYNE: Rev. Prob. 6I

SUNRISE AT ADAMS KEY

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Easement-by-Implication Review Problem 6I (BISCAYNE)Review Problem 6I (BISCAYNE)

Quick Summary of Facts•Webers own lot with 4 guest cottages connected to one set of pipes running one mile west, then across edge of lot to connect to municipal water & sewer lines.

•S purchases western part of lot including westernmost guest cottage.

•After the purchase, pipes from other 3 cottages (and connecting to S’s cottage and municipal water/sewer) continue to run under S’s part of lot.

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SEWAGE PIPE HYPOTHETICAL REV. PROB. 6I GC GC GC Ws S GC

E-by-I Raised: Pipes in Use Before Ws Sell Western Part to S

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Easement-by-Implication Review Problem 6I (BISCAYNE)Review Problem 6I (BISCAYNE)

Prepare Arguments for Each Party re1.One parcel is split in two: YES2.Prior Use (“Quasi-Easement”): YES

3.Intent to continue prior use?4.*Apparent, visible or reasonably discoverable?5.*Some degree of necessity?

We’ll Do in Reverse Order

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Easement-by-ImplicationReview Problem 6I (BISCAYNE)Review Problem 6I (BISCAYNE)

•Sufficient Necessity• Extent of Necessity at Time of Split?• Relevant Considerations?

• Sufficient to Meet Relevant Test?• Arguments If “Reasonable Necessity”?• Arguments If “Strict Necessity”? • Why Might This Be Test?

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Easement-by-ImplicationReview Problem 6I (BISCAYNE)Review Problem 6I (BISCAYNE)

•Apparent, Visible or Reasonably Discoverable (Notice)

•Actual Knowledge by S: Evidence/Arguments?

• Inquiry Notice to S: Evidence/Arguments?

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Easement-by-ImplicationReview Problem 6I (BISCAYNE)Review Problem 6I (BISCAYNE)

Intent to Continue Prior Use (at Time of Split)•If both aware of pipes, probably intended (or atty S likely would have addressed before sale)• If Webers aware but no notice to S, • Maybe punish Ws by saying no• Ws might claim they reasonably believed S knew

• If neither party aware? • Hard to say intent as a factual matter• BUT Court might be reluctant to punish Ws for mutual mistake.

(Good-Bye to Biscaynes)(Good-Bye to Biscaynes)

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Review Problem 6L Review Problem 6L Implied Easements Generally

• B gets Prince-Acre in Great-Aunt K’s will; unmonitored for years

• HARM Law Firm Claims to have sold Prince-Acre to K’s Husband with Understanding that Could Continue to Use Existing Roads from Building across Prince-Acre to main streets.

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Review Problem 6L (Redwood) Review Problem 6L (Redwood) Easement-by-Estoppel

•An owner may be estopped from barring a 2d party access to the owner’s property where 1. The owner apparently allows 2d party to use

the property (Apparent License)2. 2d party reasonably and detrimentally relies on

this acquiescence