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ProjectCamelot|JordanMaxwell:TheTakeoverofPlanetEarthtranscriptVIDEOINTERVIEWSVIDEOINTERVIEWSSPECIALREPORTSSPECIALREPORTSAUDIOINTERVIEWSAUDIOINTERVIEWSTheBarcelonaConferenceTheBarcelonaConferenceTheBrusselsConferenceTheBrusselsConferenceTheLosAngelesConferenceTheLosAngelesConferenceTheZurichConferenceTheZurichConferenceCamelotLiveatVilcabambaCamelotLiveatVilcabambaAaronMcCollumAaronMcCollumNEW:THEANGLO-SAXONMISSIONNEW:THEANGLO-SAXONMISSIONBenjaminFulfordBenjaminFulfordDrBillDeagleDrBillDeagleBillHamiltonBillHamiltonBillHoldenBillHoldenBillRyanandKerryCassidyBillRyanandKerryCassidyBobDeanBobDeanBoriskaBoriskaDrBrianO'LearyDrBrianO'LearySgt.CliffordStoneSgt.CliffordStoneDanBurischDanBurischDanShermanDanShermanDaneTopsDaneTopsDavidCorsoDavidCorsoDavidIckeDavidIckeDavidWilcockDavidWilcockDuncanO'FinioanDuncanO'FinioanElizabethNelsonElizabethNelsonErichvonDnikenErichvonDnikenGaryMcKinnonGaryMcKinnonGeorgeGreenGeorgeGreenGordonNovelGordonNovel'HenryDeacon''HenryDeacon'JaneBrgermeisterJaneBrgermeisterJamesfromWingmakersJamesfromWingmakersJimHumbleJimHumbleJimMarrsJimMarrsJimSparksJimSparksJohnLearJohnLearJohnRobieJohnRobieJosephFarrellJosephFarrellKlausDonaKlausDonaLeoZagamiLeoZagamiDrLenHorowitzDrLenHorowitzLucaScantamburloLucaScantamburloMarciaSchaferMarciaSchafer
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JordanMaxwell:TheTakeoverofPlanetEarthLosAngeles,California,September2008
[Ednote:NormallythetranscriptsthathadanypartsinthemthathadbeendifficultforthetranscriberstohearwereputinaudiblesinsquarebracketsinredforBillRyantoattendto,fix,thenhedpostthetranscript;however,duetounexpectedinterruptionsinthenormalworkingprocessinProjectCamelot,thisnormalprocesswasnotabletoproceedforward,sotheaudibleswereleftinthesquarebrackets.]
Introduction:
Allyouneedtodoisjustgooutanddoyourjobandhavefunandwatchyourbasketballandstayoutofthewayoftheadultsthatruntheworld.Ineverboughtthat.
***Nothinginthisworldnothingworksthewayyouthinkitdoes.
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Theresalwaysmoretothestory.
***ButthereasonwhyImheredoingwhatImdoingisbecauseofthismutationwhichisbeingfoistedonthehumanraceitsbeingforcedonthehumanrace.ThischangethattheMastersoftheUniverse,sotospeak,haveinmindforthehumanraceisbeingfoistedonus.
AndIbelieve,againjustmyopinion,thatmypartinthiscosmicschemeorthiscosmicplayistocallpeoplebacktotheirhumanityandletthemknow:Yourebeingleaddownthegardenpathintosomethingyoudontknowwhatscoming.
***Youknow,Icantstanditwhenpeoplesaythatthisisallhightechnologyofourgovernment.No.Idontbuythatforaminute.WhatIveseenwithmyowneyes,Idontbuyitforaminute.Ifithastodowithourgovernment,thenwhatIhaveactuallywitnessedwithmyowneyes,ifithastodowiththeU.S.government,thenitmeansthattheU.S.governmentisinleaguewithextraterrestrials,becausewhatIsawisextraterrestrialinorigin.
***ButIamtotallyconvincedthatthereisnowontheEarthagain,forlackofabettertermalienpresencewhicharetheenemiesof
thehumanrace,andtheyareobviouslyenemiesofwhoevertheoriginalCreatorsofusbecauseofthethingsIvebeentold,thatthepeople,ortheentitieswhocreatedus,thegodswhocreatedus,haveenemiesoutthereintheuniverse.
***SomethingIwanttosayaboutSpielberg...Ihavemany,many,manyfriendsintheindustryandIalreadyknowbecauseIvebeentoldthatvirtuallyallthemajornamesinHollywoodknowwhoIam.Theyshould!Ivebeentalkingfor48years,andtheyreusingallmystuffnow,sotheyshouldknowme.
***SoImsayingthatIamtotallyconvincedbeyondashadowofadoubt,formyself,thattherearesuchthingsasreptilealiens,thoughIhaveneverseenone,thankGod.ButItotallybelievetheyreherenotbecauseofDavidIcke,notbecauseofCredoMutwawhoIlovelisteningto;awonderful,fascinatingman.DavidIckehasdonegreatstuff.ButIbelievetherearereptilealiensherebecauseofmyownpersonalresearch.
Beawarethatthereisawarforyoursoul.
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Interviewbegins:
KERRYCASSIDY(KC):JordanMaxwell,Imveryexcitedtobeherewithyoutoday.BillRyanandI--ImKerryCassidyfromProjectCamelot--couldntbemorethrilledtohavethishonorofinterviewingyou.
Youreoneofthepreeminentresearchers;youvebeenonthesceneforover40years.IthinkyourereallyresponsibleforDavidIckeandZechariaSitchin,andnumerousotherscomingtothefore,talking
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aboutsecretsocieties,theIlluminati,andreally,ThePowersThatBebehindthescenes.
Theresjustnodoubtthateveryone,Hoagland,younameit,evenWilcock--everyoneowesyouagreatTHANKYOUforbringingthissubject-mattertothefore,andforyouramazinglydiligentresearchinthisarea.
Youreanamazingmind.Yourereallyanationaltreasure,ifyoudontmindmysayingso,hereinAmerica,andIknowyouvebeennoticedoverseasinthatrespectaswell.So,whatdoyouhavetosayforyourself?Canyougiveabetterintroductionthanthat?
JORDANMAXWELL(JM):IwouldsaythatyouarebeingverygenerousandverykindandIappreciateallyourwords,butIviewmyselfasjustanordinarypersonjustdoingwhatIlovetodo,andthatistolookbehindthescenesofworldevents,howthingsreallywork.AndIstarteddoingthiskindofresearchdiligently.
Igrewup,andevenasachild,spendingmostofmytimeinthelibrary.Whilealltheotherkidswereoutplaying,Iwassittinginlibraries.SoIvealwaysbeeninterestedtoknowthingsthatother
peopledontseemtoevenknowexist.Ivealwaysbeeninterestedinthesecretsideoflife,allofthehiddenthingsintheworldthatmostpeoplearenotevenawareof.Imjustfascinatedwithhowmuchthereistoknowthatmostpeopledontevenknowexists.
AndsoIgrewupthinkingthatway,andbythetimeIwas19yearsold,whenIendedupinLosAngeles,IdecidedtodedicatemywholelifetostudyingwhatIwouldcalltheworldoftheoccult.Thewordoccultsimplymeanshidden.
Somuchofrealknowledgeandwisdomishiddenbecausethepeoplewhorunthisplanetfeelthattrueknowledgeandwisdomofhowtheworldreallyworksisknowledgethatyoudontneedtoknowallyouneed
todoisjustgooutanddoyourjobandhavefunandwatchyourbasketballandstayoutofthewayoftheadultsthatruntheworld.Ineverboughtthat.
WhenIwasachild,Iusedto,ofcourse,behappywhenmyfamilywouldhaveotherfamiliescomingovertovisitbecausetheywouldbringtheirchildrenandIdhavekidstoplaywith.Butafterdinner,thewomenwouldalwaysendupinagroupandtheyretalkingwomentalk,andmydadandhisbrothersandwhoeverelsewasthere,allthemen,wouldgointhefrontroomandsmokethecigarsandhavethewineandtalkmentalk.
Andso,mydadandmyunclesespeciallywouldalwayssay:Well,youkidsgoonoutandplayball,andIwouldtellmyunclebecausedadsbrotherswerewonderful;IlovedthemallandsoIwouldtellmyuncles:Idontwanttogooutandplayball.Iwanttohearwhatyouguysaretalkingabout,becauseImassumingifyouwantmetogooutandplayballthatyouregoingtobetalkingaboutsomethingthatyoudontwantmetohear.Imrealcurioustohearwhatyouwanttotalkaboutthatyoudontwantmetohearabout.
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KC:Andyouusedtosaythattothem,Iassume.
JM:Yeah.
KC:Yeah.Soyouwereincrediblyprecocious.
JM:Andsothen,whattheywoulddoismyuncleandmydadwouldsay:Well,wellgooutandplay,too,youknow,actinglike:Okay,wedontneedtotalkaboutanything.
Andofcourse,allthekidswouldnowwanttogooutbecausemydadandmyunclesaregoingtobeplayingwithus.Sowewouldallgoouttoplayballbecausenowtheadultswerewithus.Andofcourse,abouttenminutesintothegame,mydadwouldgettiredbecauseheworksallday,sohestiredandthatkindofstory.Sohecomesin,andthenmyunclesafewminuteslaterwouldcomein,butnowthekidsareallplayingball,sonowwerehappy.
Iseethattoday.ThePresidentoftheUnitedStatesgoestotheopeningballgame.Hethrowsoutthefirstball.ThatsDaddythrowingoutthefirstballforallthekidstobethere,andallthekidsare
watchingtheirsillyballgames.Andthenofcoursetheywouldshootintotheaudienceoftheballgamesandyouseethemoviestarsandbignamepoliticianstherewatchingthegame.
AndIdthink:Youknow,Iknowwhatthatis.Itsjusttheguyswhoarerunningtheplanetwantallthepoorpeopleallthekidstoknowthatweadultswhoarerunningtheworld,werehumanlikeyou;weliketocomeouttothebasketballgameandseetheballgames.
Itkindofmakeseveryonefeelkindofhappythatournationalleadersandourmoviestarsarelikeustheylovetheballgames,too.I
neverfellforthat.Iknowwhatsgoingon.Theseguyscouldntcareless,butitsjustpolitics.Itsjust,youknow,gooutandletthepeopleseethatyouarehumanlikeeveryoneelse.Ineverboughtit.
Iwantedtoknowaboutwhattheseguysweretalkingabout,twooclockinthemorningwheneveryoneelseisasleep.Thatswhentheseguystalk.
KC:Absolutely.Canyoupossiblyfeelcomfortableenoughtosharewhatyousharedwithuslastnight,aboutthemeetingwiththatveryspecialperson?Theone...
JM:Iknowwhatyouresaying.Imjusttryingtothink:AmI
comfortabletalkingaboutit?
KC:Iunderstand.
JM:Well,letmegoon,first,andlaysomemorefoundation.
KC:Allright.
JM:Soitdidnttakemeverylongtofigureoutthatsomuchofwhatisgoingon,humansarenotbeingtold.Wearenotbeingtoldthereal
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truth.
AcoupleofthingsinparticularIwantyoutoknow,andIwantyoutoremember.Nothinginthisworldnothingworksthewayyouthinkitdoes.Theresalwaysmoretothestory.
Youhearaboutsomemarriagebreakingupandthehusbanddidthis,thewifedidthat,anditsveryobviouswhathappened.No,itsnotobviouswhathappened.Theresalotmoretothestoryyoudontknow.Youdontknowherbackground,herpast.Youdontknowhispast.Youdontknowwhatwasgoingoninthefamily.Youhavenoidea.Sonothingissimple.Thisiswhyyouhavecourts.
SoIfoundthatnothinginthisworldoperatesthewayyouthinkitdoes.Banksdonotloanmoney.Governmentsarenotempoweredtoprotectyou.Policedepartmentisnottheretoserveyou.Institutionsofhigherlearningcollegesandeducationalinstitutesarenottheretoeducateyou.
TheentiresuperstructureofcivilizationintheWesternworldisa
combinationofbrilliantlyput-togetherandwell-plannedschemestodirectthemindsofthepeopleinsuchawayastoservetheirmasters.AndIveknownthatforalongtime.
OneofthebiggesttoolsinthehandsofthemasterswhorunthisworldisHollywood.Hollywoodisanincrediblestory.
Ivesaidthis,andmaybemanyhearingmenowhaveheardmesaythis,butIllsayitagainthatthewhitemansestablishmentcomesfromEurope.Andnorthern,southern...well,allfour:north,east,southandwesternEurope,evenatthetimeoftheRomanEmpireandbefore,thatwholesectionofEuropethatwecallthecenterforthewhitemanspresenceontheEarthwasquiteliterallyruledoverancient
EuropewasruledoverbyapriesthoodcalledtheDruids.
TheDruidsweretheministers,thepriests,thejudges,thelawyers;theywerethereligiousleaders.
SoitwaspriesthoodthatdominatedEurope.Itstilldoes.EuropeisstillaDruidiccountry,andAmericaisaDruidiccountry.UnlessyouunderstandtheDruidicsystem,thenyourenevergoingtofigureoutwhatsgoingoninAmericaandEngland.
OneofthemostimportantsymbolsintheDruidsystemwasamagicwand,likeMerlintheMagicianwithamagicwand?Andalso,theorchestraleadersandconductorsalwayshaveamagicwandandyouhad
betterplaytothetuneofthemaster.Hedirectsyoutoplayandhedirectsyoutostopwiththemagicwand,soyouredancingtohismusic.Okay?
MagicwandswerealwaysmadeoutofthewoodofaHollytree.ItsmadeoutofHollywood.HollywoodisaDruidicestablishmentandthesymbols,thewords,theterms,thestories,aredesigned.
Thinkaboutit.ThinkabouthowHollywooddoeswhattheydo.Imnotsayingtheyreevil,ImjustexplaininghowHollywoodworks.
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Youhave,firstofall,astory,sosomebodyhastowritethestory.Allright?Sonowyouvegotastory.Nowyouhavetogiveittoascreenwriter,whosgoingtoadaptthatstoryintoascreenplaybecauseyoucantjusttellthestory,youhavetodesignittobeamovie.
Nowonceyoudothat,thenyouregoingtohavetohiretheactorsveryimportant:actors--becauseyouregoingtoneedpeopletoactthepart.Itdoesntmeanthattheyactuallyhavehumanfeelings.No,no,theyrebeingpaidtoactliketheycare,toactliketheylovesomeone.Itsanact.
Andsoyoupayactorstoactoutthepartthatthescreenwritershavewritten,andyouwanttomakesuretheactorsdoitjustright,soyouhavetohaveadirectorandhesgoingtodirecteverythingyousayanddothewayhewantsitsaid.
Thenyouhave,ofcourse,theproducerandhesalsosubjectedtotheexecutiveproducerwhosproducingthemoney,andsoallofthisisawholesystemofputtingtogetherasystemofastorythattellsyouastory.Itcausesyoutothinkintermsofwhatyoujustsaw,sothatpeoplegooutfromthemovieandthinkintheirminds:Thisistheway
younormallywouldreacttoasituation,thewaythattheguyinthemoviedid.
AndsothatswhytodayintheWesterncivilization,especiallyintheWest,ourabilitytoworkwitheachotherandlivetogetherashumansissoscrewedup,becausewevebeenwatchingsomuchtelevisionandsomanymoviesandsomuchsillinesscomingoutofHollywood;somuchviolence,andsex,anddrugs,andalltherestofit,thatpeoplehavenoideaintheworldhowtoliveanymore.Theyvelosttheirhumanity.
KC:Okay,soyouresayingthatinmanywaysHollywoodmoviesandtelevisionareactuallysortofdoingbehaviormodificationonpeople...
JM:Precisely.
KC:...togetthemtobehaveincertainways,tothinkissociallyacceptableandthenpeopleactuallygooutandtheyactthewaytheyresupposedtoact,ratherthanthewaytheyreallyfeelinanyhumansituation.
JM:Exactly.Precisely.
KC:Soitcementsthesocialstructure.
JM:Thatsit.
KC:Idounderstandthat.WouldyoualsotalkabouthowmoviesarerevealingtheIlluminatiagenda?
JM:OhGodyes!Whatastorythatis!Absolutely.Evenmoresothanyouknow,evenmoresothanyoususpect.
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Ihavebeenlookingatonesubjectfor,well,since1967.Letmeprefacethis:InGlendale,California,in1967IwasresearchingCommunismforalectureIwasgoingtogiveandIwenttoaWorldBookEncyclopediaandtherewasthepictureofthenationalcoatofarmsoftheSovietUnionandtheSovietflag.Thatwasin67.
Well,Istartedspeakingtosmall,littlegroupsin60,soforsevenyears,Idalreadybeentalkingtolittlemomandpopgroups,andlittlelibraryrooms,andlittlebookstores,andallthatkindofthing.Butitwasin67thatIcameacrossasymbolwhichwasthenationalcoatofarmsoftheSovietUnion.
IwasfamiliarbythattimewithaparticulartermthattheCommunistshaveused,theNazishaveused,theBritishhaveused,theAmericanshaveused,andsowhenIsawthissymbolandtheexplanationforthesymbolintheWorldBookEncyclopedia,itfinallyhitmethatsomethingisgoingon,onamassive,enormousscalearoundtheworld.
ForthefirsttimeIsawitintheSovietnationalcoatofarms,becauseitwasusingthesamewordsandtermsthatHitlerhadused,theNazishadused,thatthefascistshadusedinItaly.
AndnowasIbegantolook,thepeopleofIndiausedit;thegovernmentsaroundtheworldareusingthesamesymbol,soIknewthatIhadstumbleduponsomethingofprofoundsignificance.Ididntknowwhatitwas,butIalreadyknew,Ihadagutfeelingthatsomethingisreallybiggoingon,ontheEarth,andtheSovietnationalcoatofarmswaswhattriggeredmycatchingthat.
BILLRYAN(BR):Whenyoutalkedaboutthesymbolsthere,thatremindedmehowmuchofyourworkisabouttheinterpretationofsymbols.Somebodymentionedtomethatyouwereactuallythemodelfor
thesymbologistthatwasplayedbyTomHanksinthemovieTheDaVinciCode.Canyousayanythingaboutthat?Isittruethatthatwasbasedonyourworkandyourpersonalityandyourresearch?
JM:Well,Imnotinapositiontosayforsure,becauseImnotprivytohowtheycameupwithwhattheydidinthemovie.AllIwillsaythatisforsureandprovableisthatin1991,Ithinkitwas,IdidapresentationthatwasvideotapedinthePasadenaareaatabookstoreandthevideoisoutallovertheworld.ItscalledTheBasicSlidePresentation.
Inthatthatwasbackin1991,PasadenaIwasintroducedasan
expertonsecretsocietiesandoccultemblemsandsymbolsofreligionandgovernment.
Iwalkedupontothestage,anditwasaslidepresentationthatIwasdoing,andsoIhadtheslideprojectoron,andtheslidethatwasbeingprojectedonthescreenIleftitonevenbeforeIstartedjusttohaveapictureforpeopletoseewhentheycameinsotheslideprojectorwasalreadyon.Thepicturethatwasonthescreenwas
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thebackofthedollarbill,thepyramidonthebackofthedollarbill.WhenIwalkedupontotheplatform,Iwalkedinfrontofthescreen,sonowitwasbeingprojectedonme.
BR:Thatwasinthemovie.
JM:AndthenIstartedpointingtothesymbolsonthedollarbill[Kerrylaughs]andexplainingtheemblemsorwords.Thatsexactlythesamescenethatsinthemovie.
BR:Irememberit.Itwasverydramatic,ifyourecall.
JM:Yeah.GobackandgetmyBasicSlidePresentationbackin91anditsthesameidenticalthing.
BR:Imitationisthesincerestformofflattery.
JM:Right,Iguess.Ofcourse,Ididntgetacheckoranything.[laughs]Andthenofcoursein1992or93,somethinglikethat,IdidavideocalledMatrixofPowerinwhichItalkedabouthowtheworldisbeingmanipulatedbehindthescenesbyoccultormagicalsymbolsandwordsthataredeceivingcivilization,deceivingpeople.ThenlateronamoviecomesoutcalledMatrix.ButIvebeentalkingaboutthis,youknow,thissubjectformany,manyyearsbefore.
Now,onethingalotofpeopledonotknowisthatIwasgoingaround,itcanbetoldnow,butIwasgoingaroundtostudiosinthe70sandintheearly80s.Especiallyinthe70s,Iwasgoingaroundtoallthemotionpicturestudiosatnighttime.Working-classpeopleinthestudioswouldhavemecomeinanddoapresentationaslideprojector,justalittleMickeyMouseoperation,slideprojector,throwupascreen,andIwouldgivelecturesonBiblecodes,KnightsTemplars,secretsocieties,andthosekindofarcanesubjects.
ManytimesIwouldgivelectureslikethattojusttheworking-classpeopleofthestudioandthensometimeswewouldrentsomeoffice
withinthestudiolotwhereIcouldgoandsitandtalkwithabunchofpeoplewhowereworkingatthestudio.IwasjusthavingfuntalkingaboutthingsIenjoy.Youknow,theywouldorderbeerandpizza,wedsitandtalk,andIwoulddoatwo-orthree-hourslidepresentationonBiblecodes,secretsocieties.
In66,late66asIsaidbefore,IlearnedabouttheIlluminatiassuch,andsoIstartedgivinglecturesatthestudiosonIlluminati;MasonicOrders,boththeBritishGrandLodgeandtheAmericanFreemasonry;theFrenchandGermanOrders,andtyingthemallintothesecretsocietiesthatoperatearoundtheglobe--andalsoincorporatinginthoselectures,asIsaid,inthe70s,thesubject
ofIlluminati,whichIhadgottenfromAnthonyHildersrecordsthatwereputoutin1966.
AndsotodayIsee,youknow,ontelevision,onHistoryChannel,andallkindsofmoviesfromHollywoodtalkingaboutIlluminati.
BR:Thisactuallycomesfromyourresearch.Itspercolateditselfdownintothepopularculture.
JM:WellImean,ifyoujustkeeptalkingfor48years,somebodys
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goingtofinallyhearyousomewhere.[laughs]
KC:Well,itsverypossiblethattheywereactuallyfilmingandtapingyouatthestudio.
JM:Well,Iknowtheydid.Actuallytheyweredoingit,butitwaslikeindividualswouldhavetheircamerasandwouldvideotapeandtheywouldaudiotape.
KC:Butevenbehindthescenes,therecouldhavebeenrecordinggoingon.
JM:Whoknows.
KC:Yeah.Imean,obviouslyalotofwhatyoutalkedabouthasshownupinplot-linesinscreenplays,andtheninmovies.
JM:Ohyeah.Absolutely.
KC:Somaybewecangobackagaintowhereyougotinvolved.YouweretalkingabouttheSovietCrestandmaybewecouldpickupthere.
JM:Yeah.Sothiswasin67.1967asIsaid,IminGlendale,California.IwasresearchingtheCommunistmovement,andsoIwenttotheWorldBookEncyclopediaandthereintheWorldBookEncyclopediawasapictureofthenationalcoalofarmsoftheSovietUnionandthecommunistflag.
Ialreadyunderstoodthesymbolsofthecommunistflag,butmyeyecaughtthatnationalcoatofarmsandIsawinthatsymbolsomethingIhadseentheNazisuse[and]allthegreatnationsoftheworldhave
used.AllthePresidentsoftheUnitedStatesintheirInauguralAddressesusedthesamewordsandterms.Allthesenatorsandcongressmen,whentheyrerunningforoffice,usethatsameterm,thatsamesymbol.
SoIknewIhadstumbleduponsomethingofprofoundsignificance.Ijustdidntknowwhatitmeant,butIknewitwasimportant.Thiswasin67.
Andso,since67Ihavebeenresearchingthisoneterm,thisonesymbol,andthemoreIfindonit,themoreImamazedathowmuchthereisoutthereonthisonesecretsymbolthatnobodyisawarethat
itsrightinfrontofyou.Itsoneofthoseincrediblyfantasticstoriesofsomethingthatissoawesomeinscopeanditssittingrightinfrontofyouandyouneversawit.Thatshowclevertheseguysare.
KC:Sowhatareyoutalkingabout?Weregoingtoputitonthescreen.Itstwomountainsandarisingsun.Isthatright?
JM:Right.
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KC:Sowhatarethewordsandwhatdoesthismean?
JM:But,lookit,justtobeabletoseeit,whichyouwillbeabletoputintothevideo,butjusttobeabletoseeitisnotsufficient.Youneedabout25or30yearsofresearchtounderstandthesignificanceofwhatyoureseeingandwhatitactuallymeans.Soyoullbeabletoshowitanditwillbesomethingofinterestthatpeoplewillpickupon,butbelieveme,theresabiggerstoryyet.
SowhenyourehearingthetermIlluminatiortheconceptsofsecretsocieties,occultordersandallthatkindofthing,itsactuallymuchbiggerthanyouthink.Thereissomethingfarbiggergoingon,ontheEarththatmostpeoplearenotawareof.
KC:Okay.Therisingsun.Arewetalkingabouttherisingsun?ArewetalkingabouttherisingoftheNewWorldOrder?
JM:Thatsright.Exactly.
KC:Werealsotalkingaboutsomethingelse,arentwe?
JM:Yes.Thatsright.Somethingverybig.
KC:Somethingmoreocculteventhanthat.
JM:SomethingthatgoesallthewaybackintoB.C.,backintotheancientworld.ZechariaSitchinandIhavetalkedaboutthis.AtonetimeIwasinbusinesswithZechariaSitchin.Ihelpedsendhimtodifferentcountriesandweweregoingtodoatelevision,a13-weekmini-specialIwasgoingtodowithZach.
ZechariaSitchinhasbeenmydearfriend,andabrilliantman,andIwassoimpressedwithhim[that]Italkedhimintosigningacontractwithmetodoa13-weekmini-seriesfortelevision.Unfortunately,the
attorneysandthepeoplewhowerefinancingtheprojectforme,atthelastminute,afterwehadalreadyshotlikefivedifferentcountriesandwewerealmostthrough,theypulledtheplugonthewholeproject.SoitwasntZachsfault,itwasntmyfault.Itwasthepeoplefinancingit,theyfaltered.
ButIvehadalotofopportunitiestotalktoZechariaaboutthingsthatIminterestedin,andIvelearnedalottalkingtohiminprivate,whichwill,unfortunately,havetostayprivate.
KC:Okay.Soyourenotabletotellanythingaboutsomethingthathetoldyouthatwasactuallyverysignificant.JM:No,itsjustthatthesymbolImtalkingaboutisonthenationalcoatofarmsoftheSovietUnion,soIwouldsayanyonewhosinterestedinthis,lookatthesymbolsonthenationalcoatofarmsandstudyit.Dontjustlookatit,butlookatalltheimplicationsofitandthenfollowtheotherspicturesthatIhave,thatIwillgiveyou.Eachonesastepcloser,andanotherstepclosertoit,anditkeepsgoing.Ithinktheresaboutsixorsevenpictures.
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KC:Okay.ButitalsolinksupwiththeJapanese,theuseoftheredsun;alsothesunthatwasinObamasInaugurationinthebackground.
JM:Exactly.
DAVIDWILCOCK(DW):WhataboutinPittsburgh?TheG-20summit?Itslikeagrid?
JM:Iknow.
DW:Thatsthesamething.
KC:ButisnttheresomeoccultsignificancetotheSunitself?
JM:Ofcoursethereis.
KC:AndarewetalkingaboutsomethingtodowiththeAnunnakiaswell,andtheiragenda?
JM:Yes,yes,absolutely.Thatsexactlywhatitsabout.ThereisahiddenagendathatsbeeninoperationonthisEarthforthousandsofyears.Andsee,ImatadisadvantagebecauseImtryingtoexplainsomethingtoanaudiencewhohavenotbeenwhereIvebeenandseenwhatIhave,andsoImhavingadifficultytryingtolegitimizewhat
ImsayingifyouhaventseenwhatIveseen,andso...
KC:Okay.Well,thatspartofthepurposeoftheinterview.Imean,weareCamelot,wehavealotofbackgroundinformationalreadyonoursite,asyouknow,andsoinmanywaysthepeoplethatarewatchingthis,theyllhavebeenalreadyeducated,iftheywerenttobeginwith,byCamelot,bytheotherpeoplethathavecomebeforeyou.
JM:Iunderstand.
KC:ButIthinkitsverysignificantthatweretalkingnowandIthinkthatwhatwevetouchedonhereislike,thisisthebeginning
ofarevealingthatmostpeoplearenotawareof.
JM:Yes.
KC:Andobviouslyyouvegotthatstory.Okay?
JM:Itellyou,nomatterhowwellpreparedandhowwell-readyouare,Iwillguaranteeyouyouvenotheardthisstory.
KC:Okay.
JM:Ihaveastorynoonesheard,andIvebeenlookingatitforsome...since67,soweretalkingabout,howmanyyearsisthat?67
to2007?Thatswhat,40years?
KC:Yes.
JM:Yeah.
KC:Yeah.Absolutely.Andwhendidyouactuallystumbleonthefinal...Ifeellikeinasenseyouhavethefullmeaningofitatthisstage.Ithinkthatperhapsyouhavethatfullmeaning,soImaskingyou,inasense,whendidyouarrivethere?Howmanyyearsago
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didyouactuallygettothe...
JM:Ithinkprobablysomewhereinthemid90sitbegantoreallydawnonme.
KC:Okay,yeah,anddawnhassomethingtodowithit.
JM:Thatsright.
KC:Werealsotalkingabout
JM:Weretalkingaboutanancient,ancientstorythathasbeen...
KC:TheGoldenDawn.WeretalkingabouttheGoldenDawnandtheinformationthere.
JM:Absolutely.
KC:Butwhat...?
JM:Muchfurtherback.TheGoldenDawnwasjustonemorestepinacontinuingflowofaparticularidea,andasitmovesintothelastdaysoftheworldthatwerelivingin,werenowenteringintoanewdispensationIchoosethattermdispensationoftimeinwhichthis
symbolisgoingtobeeverywhere.
KC:Okay.
JM:And[sighs]Iwouldliketobeabletogivelikeatwo-and-a-halftothree-hourpresentationjustonthisonesymbol.
ArathersuccessfulmotionpictureproducerandIweretalkingaboutdoingamovie.AfterIgavehimsomeoftheinformation,hecalledit,LetscallthemovieTheSymbol,andthenwetalkedaboutitandsaid:Well,maybeTheHiddenSymbol.Ihavethecontractandheresthe
moviethatwewanttodoandwellcallitTheSymbolorTheHiddenSymbol.
Thatnevergotdone,forallkindsofreasons.ButthenIseethenewmoviecomingoutwithDanBrown,TheHiddenSymbol?
AndImthinking:Theseguyswhoaresmart,intelligentandHollywood,theyareeitherknowledgeableonthissymbolandarereleasingitslowlybutsurely,ORtheressomekindofanunderstandinggoingonthatpeoplearestartingtolookatsymbolsmorenowandbeginningtoputthepiecestogether,likeIvebeendoingfor48years,andnowtheyarebeginningtoperceivewhatImtalkingabout.Buttheyhaventgotthereyet.
Andsoitsaformofprofessionaljealousy.IwouldliketobetheonethatpresentsmyworkbeforeWarnerBrothersgetsaholdofitfromsomebodyelse.
KC:Exactly.Imean,heresyouropportunity.Soanythingyouholdbackatthispoint,Imean,reallyyoudosoatyourownrisk,inasense.
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JM:Iunderstand.
KC:BecausethisisanopportunityandwearereallycomingclosetothejunctureImean2012andbeyondwherethisagendaisreallycomingtothefore.
JM:Iknowanditsjustincredible,watchingit.
KC:Itsamazingthatyouvebeenwatchingthisthingwithfullawarenessaseachstep,eachroll-out...
JM:For40yearsIvebeenwatchingitcoming.
KC:Andso,takeusdownthepath.
JM:AllthePresidentsoftheUnitedStatesallofthemhaveusedthesameterms,fromGeorgeWashington.ThetermsheusedandthethingshesaidweretakendirectlyfromtheancientprehistoricworldoftheAnunnaki,theancientgods,fromtheancientSumerians,Babylonians,Phoenician-Canaanites,ancientGreece,ancientRome.Theyalltheusedthesamewordandthesameterm.
KC:Okay,whatistheterm?Whataretheterms?
JM:ThetermisTheDawnoftheNewDay.AndtheconceptofTheDawnofaNewDayistheSunrisingbetweentwomountains.
ThisgoesbacktothebeginningofChristianityinthe4thcenturywhenConstantinecodifiedthereligioncalledChristianity.Christianityisnothingmorethan...Inmyopinion,Christianityisthemostpopularrenditionoftheancientcultstory,thisancientthingthatforthousandsofyearshasbeenhiddenfrompeople,butthemastersoftheworld,thekingsandrulers,haveallunderstood.
Christianityistellingyouthesamestory,butyoudontseeit,so
peoplearefixatedonJesusandonhisministryandneverforamomentsuspectthattheentirestoryisthesameancientstorythatsbeentoldbysomanyancientculturesandistodaypartoftheNewWorldOrder,Illuminati,MasonicOrdersaroundtheEarth.
TheentiresuperstructureofWesterncivilizationhasboughtintothismostancientstory,neverrealizingforamomentwhattheyredoing.
KC:Okay.Ihavesomecluesalongthelinesofthis,andIhavetosayyourereallytalkingabouttheriseoftheSonofAnu[Anubis].
JM:Exactly.
KC:IdontknowifitsMarduk,butitsOrion,thesonofOrion.Canyoutellus?
JM:Nowyouregettingclose.Thatsright.
KC:Okay.Thisishimcomingback,actually,tositonthethroneandtoruletheworld.
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JM:Mmhm.
KC:Andsomaybeyoucansortofstarttopaintthatpicture.Now,ishecominginacraft?
JM:Well,dontknow.Maybe.Iwouldnotbeabitsurprisediftheyrealreadyhere,justwaiting.
KC:Okay.
JM:Theydonthavetocome,theyrealreadyhere.ThatswhatStevenSpielbergsaidinhisWaroftheWorlds.Theyrenotcoming;theyrealreadyhereandtheypoppedupfromoutunderthestreet.SymbolicallywhatHollywoodandStevenSpielbergaresaying:Theyrerightunderyourfeet.Theyrerightunderthesurface.
KC:Well,accordingtoBobDean,theyrewalkingthehallsofthePentagon.
JM:Iwouldntbeabitsurprised.Yeah.
KC:Sowecertainlyhavewitnesstestimonyinthatarea.
JM:Imgoingtodoapresentationonthisverysoon.Ialreadyhaveabouta3-hourpresentationallreadytogothatIwanttoexplainit.
KC:Okay,butthisrulercomingtokindoftakecontrol,isthisapositivethinginyourvieworanegativething?
JM:Ithinknegative.
KC:Okay.
JM:Ithinkverynegative,butthewholeworldissuckingitup.Theyloveit,neverrealizingthefullimplicationsofwhatsbeingsaid.
ItslikesomekidsgoingintoHollywood,youknow,leavinghomeandtheyregoingtoHollywood.Theyregoingtobeinthemotionpicturecapitaloftheworld,neverrealizingthatonthestreetsofHollywoodandthiscityisnotsomeplaceforaninnocentkid.Youregettingyourselfinvolvedwithsomethingyouhavenoideaintheworldhowbaditreallyis.
IthinkthatsomanypeoplehaveboughtintothedifferentreligionsordersJehovahsWitnesses,Christadelphia,WorldwideChurchofGod[andthe]MormonChurch.Allofthesearepartandparcelofalargerworldmovementthatsbeenplannedforalongtime.
Andwheretheworld,especiallyintheWesternworld,ImtalkingmostlyintheWesternworldbecausetheArabicworldisalsoheavilyinvolvedinthis,butthatsadifferentsubject.Butforthemoment,WesternCivilizationisjustgoingoverthewallwiththisthing.Everybodyhasboughtintoit.Youreseeingitinpolitics...
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Ithinkthattherearethingswhichdoevolve.AndImnottalkingaboutmancomingfrommonkeysbecause,obviously,mandidnotcomefrommonkeys--manisevolvingintomonkeys.[Kerrylaughs]Andso,thatstheproblem.Thereisaplaceforevolution,butthatsnotwhatImtalkingabout.
Thisancientstory,comingfromtheancientandprehistoricworld,hasdominatedalltheculturesoftheworld.Whatthatimplies,Ibelieve,istheresgoingtobesomekindofamutationofthehumanraceinordertotakethehumanfamilyontheEarthtoanewstyleoflifeintheuniverse.
Andso,whatwillbelostwillbeyourhumanity,yourabilitytoshowloveandkindnesstootherpeople.Therewillbenoroomforthat.Emotionstherewillbenoroomforemotions.TherewillbenoroomfortheAmericansystemoffreedom,liberty,andjusticeforall.Thatsgone.Thatsout.Therewillbenomorefreedom,liberty,andjusticeforall.Nomorefamilylove,nomorehumanity,manreactingtoman.No.Allofthatsgoingtobegone.
KC:Arentyoualsosaying,though,thatthereisaraceofhumansbeing...actuallythatthisisntgoingtostartinthefuture,that
itsalreadystarted.
JM:Ohyeah.Itsalreadystarted.
KC:Thepreparation,thegeneticmodificationofthehuman,actually,behindthescenes.
JM:Yes.Youknow,intheBookofGenesisintheBible,theOldTestamentinGenesis18,the18thchapter--Ididavideoonthis--ittalksaboutAbrahamandSarah,theprophetAbraham.ItsaysthatthreemeninGenesis18;gobacktoreadityourselfitsaysthatthreemencomewalkingupintothecamp.
Abrahamwentoutandgreetedthethreemenandaskedthemtostayfordinnerandtheysaidno,theywereontheirwaytootherbusinessanddidnothavetimetostop.ItsaysthatAbrahaminsistedthattheystayatleasttohavesomethingtoeatandthentheycouldgo,andtheyagreed,sotheysaid:Allright,makeitquick,wellstayforsomething.
AndsotheBiblesaysinGenesis18thatSarah,hiswife,fixeddinnerforthem,theysatunderatree,haddinnerwithAbraham.Thenitsaysafterdinner,twoofthemengotupandlefttogoonabouttheir
business,buttheonethatstayedwastheAbsoluteCreatorGod,theonewhohadcreatedthehumancreature.HesatwithAbraham,havingdinnerunderthetree,andthengavepropheciestoAbrahamandthengotupandleft.NowthatsinGenesis18.
Firstofall,myquestionis:Waitaminute.ItsaystherewerethreemenandthethreemencomeupandhaddinnerwithAbraham.
AndtheninGenesis19,thefollowingchapter,itsaysthatthosetwomenwhohadgottenupearlierandleftwerethetwoangelsthatwent
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intoSodomandGomorrah.ItsaysthatwhenthesetwoangelsormenwentintoSodomandGomorrah,thehomosexualssawtheseguys,thesetwomen,andthoughtthattheywereabsolutelyhandsome,beautiful,good-lookingmen,andtheyattractedthehomosexuals.GoreaditinGenesis19.
Butthattellsme,ifthosewerethesametwomenthatwerewithAbrahamhavingdinner,thescripturesaidtheywereabsolutelyhandsome,good-looking,handsomemenandGodtheCreatorisstillsittingunderthetreewithAbrahamhavingdinner.AnditsaysGODinallcapitalletters.TheCreatorofthehumanraceistherewithAbraham.
SoImjustsayingthatImsurethattherearespiritualinterpretationsofallthis,butIthinkthereisalegitimacyaboutthestorythatwhenwereadinGenesiswhereGodwalkedwithAdamandEveinthecooloftheevening,thewordinHebrewGodwalkedwithAdamthatHebrewwordmeansyoucanhearafootstepsteppingonleaves,youcanhearthefootsteps.
ThatswhattheHebrewwordmeans.Sowepoeticallysay:Well,GodprobablywaswithAdamandEvespiritually.No,no.ThewordinHebrewsays:GodwalkedwithAdam.Youcanhearhisfootstepsontheleaves.
AllofthisimpliesintheOldTestamentthatwhoevercreateduslookedlikeusandthatswhythescripturessays,Godsays:Come,letusmakemaninourimageafterourlikeness.ThatsinGenesisOne;GenesisOneandTwo,both.
ManyyearsagoItalkedwithRabbiMarvinAntelman.RabbiMarvinAntelmanfromMassachusettswasadearfriendofmine.IthinkhesstillalivetodayintheKnessetinIsrael.ButheandIusedtotalklonghours,andIaskedhimonceaboutthatscripture:Come,letusmakemaninourimageafterourlikeness.
HesaidbothJewsandChristiansmisunderstandthatscripturebecause
theyglossoverittooquickly.MostpeoplethinkthatwhentheyreadthatscripturethatGodissaying:Come,letusmakeacreatureandwewillcallhimman.
Well,firstofallyougottaaskwhoisGodtalkingto?Himself?Hessayingcomeletus.Whosus?Sohesays:Come,letusmakemaninourimageafterourlikeness.
Hesaidno,thatsnotthewaytotranslateitcorrectly.HessayingthecorrectunderstandingisGodissayingtosomeone:Come,letusmakemaninourimage,afterourlikenessnotmakeman.No,no.Mansalreadyhere.Butcome,letusre-form,mutateman.Letusmake
maninourimage,afterourlikeness.AndlateroninGenesisitsays:Manhasnowbecomesasoneofus.Nowhelookslikeus.
Soifthatistrue,thenthatmeanstodayandIamtotallyconvincedthatthisisthecasewehaveentitiesherefromsomewhereelse;angels,gods,whateveryouwanttocallthem.ZechariaSitchincalledthemAnunnaki.
ButIamtotallyconvincedformyownselfthattherearealienlife
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formsherewholooklikehumansandyettheyrenotfullyhuman.
AndofcourseinGenesisweretoldthattheresaworldofdifference.WeunderstandintheBookofGenesistheresaworldofdifferencebetweenanangelandtheSonsofGod.SonsofGodarenotangelsandangelsarenotSonsofGodtotallydifferentconcept.Totallydifferentwords.
SonsofGodarespiritentitiesorentitiesfromsomewherewholookandhavephysicalbodiesandlooklikehumans.TheyarecalledSonsofGod,whileangelsarespiritentities.
SoweretoldintheBible,againgoingbacktoGenesis,thattheSonsofGodweremessingaroundwithwomenandgotthempregnant.Well,IkindoffiguredthattheseSonsofGod,theirplumbingworkedthesameway,sotherefore,theycouldgetwomenpregnant.AndIcannotimagineawomanbeingtalkedintobedbysomehideouscreaturefromanotherworld,butIcanseeitifitsahandsome,good-lookingman.Well,thatswhattheBiblesaid,eventhehomosexualssaidtheywerebeautiful,handsomemen.
AllofthisImbringingoutasBiblicalreferenceformyconclusion,thatIthinkZechariaSitchinisright.Ithinkotherpeoplewhohavewrittenaboutthissamesubjectareright,thatthereareinfactentitiesherelifeformsherethathavecomeherefromsomewhereelse.Maybetheyweretheoriginals,andtheyaretoday,inmyhumbleopinion,thepeoplewhoarerunningthisplanet.Itwouldnotsurprisemeabit.
KC:ArethesetheNephilim?
JM:Idontknow.TheycouldbetheNephilimbecausenotalltheNephilimdiedatTheFlood.AlotofChristianswilltellyouallthe
NephilimdiedintheFlood.No,thatsnotwhattheBiblesays.ItsaysthattherewasoneoftheNephilimlivedthroughTheFlood.HisnamewasOgofBashan.OgofBashanwasoneoftheNephilimandhelivedthroughTheFloodandcouldreproduceandreproducemorelikehimself.
WeknowthattherehavebeenskeletonsfoundwaydownintheEartharoundtheworldthatarefarbiggerthanwehumansaretoday.Someofthemare16feetlong,someofthem20feetlong,12feetlong.SoImsurethattherehavebeenextraterrestrial,forlackofabetterterm,extraterrestriallifeformswhohavecomeherewhowelooklikethem.
Theydontlooklikeus.Theycreatedusintheirimageandlikeness.
KC:Okaybutthisnewsortofruler,istheSun[and/orSon]ofGod.Right?Hesgoingtoberuling,inotherwords,betweenthesetwomountains.NowImwonderingwhatthemountainsaresymbolizing.
JM:Yeah.Verygood.
KC:Becausethemountains...arewetalkingabouttheSovietUnionandtheU.S.?ArethosethemountainswheretheSun[and/orSon]is
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goingtorisebetweenthosetwomountains?Orarewetalkingaboutplanets?
JM:Ithinkthatweretalkingaboutsomethingdeeper,theimplicationsbeingthatinalloftheancientworldtherewasalwaysaconcept,andtheologiesofalltheancientculturesoftheworldusedit,oftwintowers,twinthings,twinchurches,twintowers.ThatswhythatwholethingaboutinNewYork,twintowers?
Thatisin-your-faceifyouunderstandthesymbolismoftwintowersintheRomanEmpire,andtheGrecianempire,inSumeria,Babylonia.EspeciallyinEgypttheyalwayshadthetwoobelisks.Theyalwayshadthetwotowers,always.Sothereisaverypowerfulsignificancetotheconceptoftwintowers,veryimportantsymbolism.
KC:Okay.SowevegottwinsandwevegotbasicallyGemini,andhowdoesthatworkin?Arewetalkingabout,Idontknow,whenthisso-calledgodwasborn?Arewetalkingabouttheconstellationwhenhisrulewillbegin?
JM:Ithinkitwillprobablybewhenhecomesintopower,thiswillbehissymbol.Hissymbolwillbethesunrisingbetweenthemountains
oftheEast.ZechariaSitchintalksaboutthat.
ManyofthebooksontheancientMiddleEasternreligionshavepicturesofShamash;theHebrewgodisShamash,meaningtheSunrisingbetweenthemountainsoftheEast.Thatgoesallthewaybacktothecuneiformpictures,theclaypicturesfromSumeriaandBabyloniaorfromIraq,picturesofthegodrisingbetweentwomountains.Again,itsverydifficultformetomakethisintelligentlyunderstood,becauseIdonthavethepictures,anditwouldtakemeaboutthreehourstolaythefoundationforthis.
KC:Iunderstand.
JM:SoImjustgivingyousomebriefglimpsesintowhatImgoingtobedoingsoononthisvideo.
KC:Okay.Isthisruler...arewetalkingaboutMarduk?OrisMardukalreadyhereandthisissomebodywhoscomingafterhim?
JM:Imnotsureaboutthat.
KC:Okay.
JM:ButagainIwouldsayitallboilsdowntoonethinginmymind
thatthehumanraceontheEarthisbeingprepared,slowlybutsurely,inascientificmethodbeingappliedtothehumanracetomutatethehumanrace,tochangeusfrombeingwhatwearetodaytoacreaturethattheGodshaveinmind,mutatingagain.BecauseiftheBibleiscorrect,ifZechariaSitchinscorrectandalltheotherwritersonthesubjectarecorrect...
BR:Thisisarealdetectivestoryhere.Imontheedgeofmyseat,thinking:Wow,arewetalkingaboutthereturnoftheAnunnaki?Is
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thisconnectedwiththeChristianmythofaSecondComing?
JM:Thatsright.
KC:Thisparticularvideoisnotreallyfor,youknow,peoplethatarejustcomingtothesubject.Thisactuallyisforpeoplewhohave...
JM:Acursoryunderstandingofallthis.
KC:...abackgroundanddounderstandandhavepossiblyreadSitchinswork,forexample,andareuptospeedwithevenDavidIckesworkandourwork.
JM:Right.
BR:Andwhomayhavebeenfollowingyouformanyyearsbecauseinrecentinterviews,forexample,onCoasttoCoastforexample,youhintedheavilythattherearethingswhichyouarenotreadytosayyet.
JM:Yes.
BR:Andalotofpeoplewillbewatchingthis,wonderingwhetherthis
isthetimeandyouvechosentotellall.
JM:Yeah.Thatstrue.Yeah.
KC:Whatwehaveestablishedhereisthatthereisaverypredominantsymbolandyouvetalkedabouthowitspermeatedeveryaspectoflifeandreligionandthatpeoplearereallynotuptospeedonwhatitreallymeansforthehumanrace.
JM:Absolutely.Thatsright.
KC:Andthisissortofastunningrevelationformanypeoplethatarelisteningtothis.ButIwouldliketosay,whatweareseeingrightnowisaroll-outofanIlluminatiagendathatinvolvespopulationreduction.WhatImcuriousiswhetherornotyoucantalkabouthowthisagendatodowiththeSon[and/orSun]comingtothethroneoftheworld,ifindeedthistranspires,thecreationofanewraceofhumans...
JM:Right.
KC:...andhowpopulationreductionfoldsintothat.
JM:Well,Ithinkifyouregoingtohaveawholenewraceofhumans;
theyarecultured.Thatswhywerefertodifferentracesofpeopleasculturesandacultureissomethingunderamicroscope,youknow;itslikeabacteria.AndsothatswhatweareontheEarthweareaculture.Andsomebodyhasactuallyputushereasaculture,andiswatchingusgrow,andwehavebecomeadisease,becausewerekillingeverythinginourpath.
AndsoIthinkthatwhoeveritisthathascreatedushadcreatedus,Ibelieve,possiblyalreadyknewthatinthefarfuture,oncethisraceisfinallybroughtuptospeed,andthenwecanmoveitintothe
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nextplateau.ThisiswhattheNazisweretalkingabout.ThisiswhatWernhervonBraunwastalkingabout.TheNaziswerebigonthissubjectandusingthesymbolandthetermthatImtalkingabout,thesymbolbetweenthemountainsoftheEast.
Englandinterestingaboutthis,isEnglandhasalwayshadafixationonEgypt.EnglandsbigonEgypt.GototheBritishMuseumandallthesedifferentmuseums.TheEnglishwerealwaysbigonEgypt,buttheGermanswerenot.
TheGermanswerealwaysbigonIraq.ThatswhatGermanywasinterestedinBabylon.Andthereasonwhy,Ithink,isbecausetheNazisandtheGermanpeopleingeneral,oratleasttheintelligentsiaoftheGermanestablishment,realizedthisstorythatImtryingtoexplainhastodowithBabylon.IthastodowithIraq.AndIbelievethatmaybeoneofthereasonswhytheU.S.isinIraqtoday.
KC:Absolutely.
JM:Ithassomethingtodowithsome...andIknowthisistruebecauseIcanprovethatthesymbolswhicharebeingusedbytheU.S.governmenttodayinIraqisexactlythesamesymbolsthatIwas
tellingyouaboutthatcomesfromtheAnunnaki,fromthePhoenician-Canaanites,theAssyrians,thePhoenicians,ancientGreece,ancientRome,ancientBritannia,intoAmerica.
TheentiresuperstructureofcivilizationhasbeenusingthesamewordsandtermsandsymbolsthataretodaydominatinginIraq,butmostpeopledontevenknow.Theydontevenseeit.
KC:Iunderstand.
JM:Itshiddeninplainsight.
KC:Okay,butthereisastargateinIraqthatsfairlywellknownthatSaddamHussein...apparentlytheyhadtogetridofhimbecausehehadfounditandwasabletocontrolitwhilehewasinpower.
JM:Yeah.
KC:SoinessencetheU.S.isnever...ItsbeenmytheorythattheU.S.isnevergoingtoleaveIraqbecausebasicallytheyhavetomanthatstargate.Theyhavetohavecontrolofthatstargate,whichiswhereitissaidtheAnunnakiwillreturn,throughthatstargate.Haveyouheardthattheory?
JM:Wellyeah,Ihave.Absolutely.AndoneofmyfavoritespeakersonthatsubjectisWilliamHenry.WilliamandIhavebeenaroundtheworldtogether,wenttoEgypttogether.Wetalkedalongtimeaboutstargates.Iunderstandthestory.Ididntsayanythingaboutstargates.ThatsWilliamHenrysworkthatinfluencedmeinthatdirection.ButIamawarethatHollywoodistalkingaboutstargatesandmakingmoviesaboutit.
IdidalectureserieswithAlBielekandPrestonNichols.Ididtwo
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weekendseminarsinwhichthethreeofusspoketogetherbackinPhiladelphia,andIhadsometimetositandtalkwithPrestonNichols.Incidentally,IamhighlyimpressedwithPrestonNichols.
KC:Okay.
JM:Youhavetobehighlyimpressedwiththatmanwhenyousitandtalkwithhimbecauseheisavery,veryinterestingman.HesgotalotofverygoodinformationonthekindofthingImtalkingaboutinprivatewithhimandhewasenlighteningmetosomeofthethingsImseeingandsaying.
KC:ButhesheavilyinvolvedintheMontaukstory.
JM:Absolutely.
KC:AndthePhiladelphiaExperimentbeingtheearlyprecursorofthat,andthenalsotimetravel,whichiswhereMontaukwasheaded.
JM:Exactly.
KC:Andthenyougetintothestargatesandsoon.AndthishassomethingtodowithlettinginImtheorizinghere,soIwantyoutohelpmebutmyunderstandingwiththeMontaukProjectwasthat
thereweresomeopeningsmadein,notjustthetimeline,butalsoinspace,sotospeak,wherecertainraceswereabletocomeinthroughanopendoor,basically,thatwascreatedbytheMontaukProject.
JM:Yeah.
KC:Imwonderingifthathastodowiththegeneticengineeringofourplanet,suchthattheywerecomingintodoajob.
JM:Well,yeah,Ithinkallofthathassomevalidity.Idontknowthatmuchaboutthestargateitselfconcept.Iunderstandit,butImean,thatsnotmysubject,butitplaysintomysubject,itspartofit,anditmustbeimportantbecauseHollywoodsmakingmovies
aboutitallthetime.TheyactuallyhavetelevisionshowsStargate.SoImsuretheressomethingverylegitimateabouttheconcept.
AllImsayingisthatwhenIwastalkingandspenttwoweekendswithAlBielekandPrestonNicholsandmyself,IwasveryimpressedwithbothAlBielekandPrestonNicholsbecause,inmyopinion,sittingwiththemforhoursonendandworkingwiththemovertheweekend;bothofthemareextremelyinteresting,provocativepeople.IwashavingfundownloadingallthisstufftoPrestonandhessaying:Yeah,wellheressomethingelseyoudidntsee.[Kerrylaughs]Andso,Ihavethehighestregardforhim.
KC:Thatswonderfultohear,actually,becauseIdothinkthereis
greatvaliditythereandsomeveryimportantclues.
JM:IthinkPrestonNicholsisabsolutelysensational.Iloveeverything,Iloved...Hewassuchagraciousperson,helpful,kind,courteous,andbrillianttositandtalkwith,soIlovePrestonNichols.
KC:Ihearyou.Now,whataboutZechariaSitchin?WhenhetalksabouttheAnunnaki,therewasagroupoftheAnunnakithatwenttoMars,
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thatleftthisplanet.Andactuallysomeofwhich,Iguess,camefromwherevertheAnunnakicamefrom,andneveractuallymadeithere.SotheresagroupthatkindofwentbacktoMarsandthensomethatcamefrom...accordingtoSitchin,Imsaying.
SowhatImwonderingis,whatwasgoingonwithMars?WeknowthatHoaglandhasgonedownthatroadquiteadistance,butIthinkthatyouvegivenhimmanyofthecluesandthebasisforhiswork.
Theressomethingtodowith...Now,Imnotanexpertonthis,butIdounderstandthatthepositioningoftheGreatPyramidandthesignificancewiththeassociationwithMars.Andthen,ofcourse,weretalkingaboutBabylon,andBabylonandMarsaresymbolsforthesamething.Isntthisright?AndtheWhoreofBabylon,andtheressomethinggoingonthere.
JM:Thatsright.ThatswhatImtalkingabout.
KC:Maybeyoucouldtalkaboutthatalittlebit,aboutMarsandthesignificancewiththeAnunnakiandwherethatmightbeleading.
JM:AndtheverywordCairo,asyouprobablyknow,CairomeansMars.
KC:Exactly.
JM:AnotherwordforMarsisCairo.
KC:Sowhatisgoingonwiththat?
JM:Yeah.ThatisasubjectwhichRichardisprobablybettersuitedtotalkaboutthanI,becauseIreallyhaventlookedatMarsoverandabovethegeneralkindofstuffhetalksabout.ButItotallybelieveformyselfthatMarsisinhabited,andIdobelievethatthereareprobablyhumanslikeusthere.
QuitealongtimeagoIhadalongconversationinMesa,Arizona,with
VirgilArmstrongPostlethwaite.VirgilArmstrongandIsatinarestaurantinMesa,Arizona,manyyearsagoandtalkedaboutthepeoplewhoareonMars.
Virgilwasaguy,fromwhatIgather,wasthemanwhocameupwiththeideahewasamilitary/CIAoperativeandhestheguythatcameupwiththeideaforGreenBerets.Thatwashisidea,GreenBeret,andheworkedwiththeCIA.IlovedsittingandtalkingwithVirgilArmstrong.Buthebroughtoutinthatconversationhowthereweremanythousandsofpeople,ormore,likeushumanslikeusonMarsat
thattime.AndIwouldntbeabitsurprised.
KC:Whatyearwasthisthatyouweretalkingtohim?
JM:Thiswasprobablymid80s.
KC:Amazing.
JM:Iwouldsay85,86,87,somethinglikethat.
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KC:Okay.Wellthatdoesdovetailalsowithourexperiencewithourwitness,HenryDeacon.ArthurNeumannishisrealnameandhehascomeoutunderthatnamerecently,andsaidhesbeentoMars.SoImwonderingifyouhaveanyinformationthatscometoyouaboutjumpgates,aboutgoingbetweenplanets.
JM:Well,yesandno.TheonlythingIhaveofanyvalueissomeoneelseswork.Isatandtalkedwithhimandheisavery,veryknowledgeable,verylegitimately...heworkedfortheUnitedStatesNavalObservatory.HewasinchargeoftheNavalObservatory,andhejustpassedawayjustrecently.Buthiswebsiteissoextraordinary,thestuffhehasonthatwebsite,picturesofstrangethingsfoundonMarsandtheyrenotnebulousthings;theyreinyourface.Imean,thosetubes,Plexiglastubes.
KC:Yes.Amazing.
JM:Andlightsinthosetubes.Theresjustanenormousamountofstuffhehasonhiswebsite.
KC:Well,ourattentionwasdrawntothatbyHenryDeaconaswell,tothosetubes,whichisfascinating.
JM:Yeah.Right.Youknow,IalwayssayImnottheworldsforemostauthorityonanything.Iftheresanyvalueinmypersonandmywork,Iwouldsaythis,thatIhavebeenprivilegedtobeinthecompanyofextraordinarypeopledoingextraordinarywork.Ihavebeenprivilegedtositintheircompanyandbeacceptedbythemandbeabletolearnthingsbehindthescenesthatotherpeoplewillneverbeprivytohear.
KC:Isntittrue,though,thatyouweretoldthatyouhaveamissionthatisgoingtocometotheforelateinlife?
JM:Yeah.
KC:Andthatyoumightactuallybetherenow?Doyouwanttotellthatstoryatall?
JM:Yeah,Isupposeso.Imentionedthis,Ithink,onCoasttoCoastonce,butitwasveryquickbecauseGeorgewantstohearallthestoriesaslongasitswithinaminuteandahalf.[laughs]
KC:[laughs]Wehavelongerthanthat.
JM:Yeah.[laughs]ButwhenIwas19,IendedupinLosAngelesat19yearsoldwithsevenbucksinmypocket,incidentally.IhadnoideawhereIwasgoing,whereIwas.IendedupinLosAngelesona
Fridaynightwithsevendollarsinmypocket.Youknow,Iwasastupidkid,butIlivedthroughit.
Lateron,acouplemonthslater,afterIgotajobandthingswereworkingoutforme,IwasinNorthHollywoodonemorning,onaweekendmorning,andIwentintoarestaurant.Theplacewascrowdedandtherewasonlyoneseatavailableandthatwasatthecounter,soIsatat
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thecounter.Therewasayounggirlsittingnexttome,sowestartedtalking.
CometofindoutsheonlylivedabouttwoblocksfrommeandIonlylivedabouttwoblocksfromtown,soshehadwalkeddowntownandIhadalso.Sowestartedhangingouttogether.Idmeetherdowntown;wedhangouttogether.Thiswasbackin59andIwas19yearsold.
Whenwewouldwalkhome,Ilivedtwoblockscloser,soshehadtwoblocksfarthertogo,soIneverknewexactlywhereshelived,butsheknewwhereIlived.Onenightshecameovertomyplaceandsaid:Mydadwantstoseeyou.Hewantstotalktoyou.
Andofcoursethatputmeonalert.ISAID:Idontwanttotalktoyourdad.
SHESAID:No,myfatherisaveryimportantandinterestingman.Hewantstotalktoyou.Hesgotsomethingtotellyou.
Thatsoundedinteresting,soIwentwithher,andwhenwewalkeduptothehousewhichwasonlyacoupleofblocksaway,wewalkeduptothe
house,justbychance,hehappenedtobecomingoutofthehouse.
ThemomentIsawhim,anincrediblefeelingcameovermeofsomekindofaeuphoric,strange[and]wonderfulfeelingthatIgot,beinginhispresence.ItwasasifIwereinthepresenceofagreatprophetorsomespiritualman.Ifeltit,andIlovedthefeeling.Imean,Icantdescribeit,butIlovedthefeeling.Itwasanother-worldfeeling.Inoticedthathewasverymuchincontrolofhimself;heknewexactlywhathewasdoing.
Hemotionedforustocomein.Wewentinandthegirlssatonthefloorbythefireplace.Theysatonthefloor.Hesatononeendofthesofa,Isatontheotherendofthesofa.Thewifewasinthe
kitchen.Ineverdidseeherthatwholenight.
Soweweretalkingandhewas,youknow,hewasaskingmehowIlikedlivinginCalifornia,anddoyouhaveajobandhowdoyoulikeyourjob,andjustsmalltalk.AndIwasbeginningtofeelalittleoftheapprehensionwasgoingaway.Iwasbeginningtofeelalittlebitbetterbeinginhiscompany,butIknewtherewassomethingaboutthisguythatwasntright,butIlovedthefeeling.
Im19yearsold,soImnotsurewhatImdoing,butImjusttalkingtothisguywhosdazzlingmewithhispresenceofmindandthepresencehepresented.
Andsoweretalkingaboutallkindsofthingsandthen,whenhefeltthatIwassufficientlyatease,hesaidtomeverynonchalantly,hesaid:RememberwhenyouwereeightyearsoldbackinFloridaandyourfatherbuiltthenewbackporchandyourunclehelpedhim?Andremember,yourdadusedgreenlumberthatsmelledfunny?Andhebuiltthenewbackporch?Yourememberthat?
Tearsstartedtocometomyeyes,andIdidntwanttoshowtearsinfrontofmygirlfriend,buthewasscaringmebecausehewasrightand
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heknewit.
ANDHESAIDTOME:Well,didthathappenordidntit?
ISAID:Yes,thathappened.
ANDHESAID:Also,onenightwhenyouwereinbed,yougotoutofbedandyouwentoutonthebackporchandyouwerelookingattheMoonandtheMoonwasfull.Doyourememberthat?
ANDISAID:Yes,Irememberthat.
ANDHESAID:Andyouwerepickingthewoodbecauseitsmelledfunny.Itwasgreenlumber;itsmelledfunny,andyouwerepickingitwithyourfinger.Rememberhowyoupickedapieceofit,andyouweresmellingitandtastingit?ANDHESAID:Rememberdoingthat?
ANDNOWIMREALLYSCAREDBECAUSEITSFRIGHTENINGTOMEANDISAID:Yes.
HESAID:Well,didyoudothat,ordidntyou?
ISAID:Yes,Idid.
ANDHESAID:Well,howwouldIknowthat?HowwouldIknowwhatyoudid?
ANDISAID:Idontknowhowyoudknow.
HESAID:Iknowbecausewewerethere.Youjustdidntseeus,butweweretherewatchingyou.
ANDITHOUGHT:Well...[laughs]
ANDHESAID,BECAUSEHECOULDTELLIWASNOTBUYINGIT:WasIcorrect
inwhatIsaid?
Yeah.
HESAID:Well,howwouldIknowifIwasntthere?Wewerethere.
ISAID:Whowaswe?
HESAID:Thatsnotimportantrightnow.WhatsimportantforyoutoknowisthatyoureinCalifornia,becausewebroughtyouhere.WebroughtyouheretoLosAngeles.
ISAID:Youbroughtmehere?
HESAID:Yeah.Whyareyouhere?
ISAID:IdontknowwhyImhere.IjusthadtocometoLosAngeles.
HESAID:Thatsright.Webroughtyouhere,hesaid,becausewhatdidyousaytoGod?YoutalkedtoGodthatnight.Thenightyousatonthe
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porch,yousaidsomethingtoGod.Whatdidyousay?
Ijustsatlookingathim.
HESAID:Illtellyouwhatyousaid.YouaskedGodtoletyoudosomethingimportantwithyourlife.Youwantedtodosomethingofvalueandimportancewithyourlife.
AndIwasabouteightornineyearsold,right?
ISAID:Yes,thatswhatIsaid.
HESAID:Well,thenweregoingtogiveyouanopportunitytodosomethingwithyourlifenowbecauseyoudidask.
Imstillamazed,listeningtohim.
ANDHESAID:Whatwehaveforyoutodowillnothappenuntilthelaterpartofyourlife,andImnotgoingtogointoitrightnow.
HESAID:Imnotgoingtogointoexplainingittoyounow;however,whenthetimecomesforyoutodowhatwehavebroughtyouheretodo--youwillknowwhatyouhavetodo.Bythattime,youwillbesufficientlyknowledgeableonwhoyouareandwhatyouredoingand
whereyouregoing.
ANDHESAID:Allyouneedtoknownowisthatwebroughtyouhereandthatwewillprotectyouwhereveritisthatweputyou.
ANDIASKEDHIM,ISAID:Istilldontunderstandwhatyouresaying.
HESAID:Youdontneedto,butoneday,youwillunderstand.
ANDHESAID:SoImheretostartyouonyourjourney.
HESAID:IhaveabookImgoingtogiveyouandIwantyoutoreadthebookandthatwillbeginyourjourney.
Andhepullsitofftheshelfandgivesittome,andtodayyoucanstillgetthatbookinbookstoresanywhere.ItscalledTheCompleteWorksofCharlesFort.[spellsname].
EveninEnglandtheresaForteanSocietydedicatedtotheworkofCharlesFort.Afascinatingbook.Itsamonumentalwork,verythickbook:TheCompleteWorksofCharlesFort.
Andheopenedthebookindiscriminately,justputhishandonthepages,becauseitsaverythickbook,andheopensapageandhe
readsaparagraph.Hejustopenedthepageandreadsaparagraphheknewexactlywhathewasdoing,preciselywhathewasdoing.Ididntknowbecauseitlookedlikehejustindiscriminatelyopenedit,andhereadaparagraphthatjustblewmeaway.Iwasknockedoutbywhathedjustread.ANDITHOUGHT:Wow!Thatsinteresting.
ANDHESAID:Ohyeah,thebookisfilledwiththatkindofthing.Letmereadyouanotherone.
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Heopeneditupagainandjustindiscriminatelyreadsomething.Notindiscriminately!Heknewwhathewasdoing.Imsurethatheknewhowtogetyourparticularattention.Whatwouldbeveryinterestingtoyou,Imaynotevensee.Butheknewhowtoplayonmyemotions,andhereadaboutthreelittleparagraphs,oneaftertheother,andeachonetomewasabsolutelymind-blowing.
Iwasfascinatedwithhim,withmynewgirlfriend,[laughs]andwiththisbook.ANDTHENHESAIDTOME:YouvealwaysbeeninterestedinUFOsandother-worldlythings,right?
ANDISAID:Yes,Ihave.
HESAID:WouldyouliketoseesomeUFOsupclosetonight?
ANDISAID:Idloveto.
HESAID:Wellcomeon.Icandothatforyou.
SoIgotupwithhim,andthetwogirlsmygirlfriendandhersisterthefourofuscameoutintheyard.ItwasaboutmaybemidnightinNorthHollywood,1959,andhelooksupintotheskyandstartsinaudiblytalking.Hismouthismovingasifhestalkingtosomebody,
butyoucanthearhim.
AndasImwatchinghimstandingtheretalkingtothestars,Ilookoveratmygirlfriendandsheslookingatme.ANDTHELOOKONHERFACEWASLIKE:Yeah,thisismyfather,thatshim.Toldyouhewasstrange,didntI?[laughs]Andthatkindofthing.
Andhersisterwaslookingatme,andIcouldtellwhatshewasdoing.SHEWASTRYINGTOFIGUREOUT:Howishetakingthis?Youknow,whatsgoingoninmymind?[was]whatthelittleonewasthinking,becauseshesseenthisbefore.ShewantstoseehowImgoingtoreacttothis.
ANDSOTENHELOOKSATMEANDHESAID:TheysaidthattheywillbecomingfromGriffithParkinjustaminute.TherellbethreeofthemandtheyllbecomingfromtheGriffithParkarea.Theyregoingnorthandtheysaidthattheyllbehereinaminuteforyou.
ANDISAID:Whosthey?
HESAID:Youllsee.
Withinacoupleofminutes,threebeautifuldisk-shapedthings,glowing,veryfaintlyglowing,cameoverwithnosoundwhatsoever,inatriangleformation,cameoverandstoppedrightaboveourheadsand
stopped.
Andwhentheydid,youcouldseetheyweredisk-shapedanditlookedandappearedlikeitwasapiecutinsixoreightslices,andeachslicewasadifferentcolor.WhatIrememberdistinctlyiseachcolorwaslikealasercolor:vibrantorange,vibrantpink,veryvibrantcolors,sixoreightcolorsoneachoneandtheywerecirculating,notsofastastoblendthecolor,butcirculating.Theywerebeautiful.TheywereaboutthesizethatthefullMoonappears,sotheyrenotlittlelights.Full-Moonsize.Three.
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AndImstandingtherelookingatthesegorgeous,beautiful,vibrant-colorthingsspinning,andcolors,andnosound,andIwasabsolutelymesmerized.Iwasjust...Iwasenthralledbyseeingthisgorgeous,beautifuldisplay.
ANDILOOKEDATHIMANDHESLOOKINGATMEANDHESAYS:Theyrepretty,arentthey?
ANDISAID:Yes.Theyrebeautiful.
ANDTHENHELOOKSUPANDTALKSTOTHEM.HESAID:Theyvetoldmetotellyouthattheyregoingnowbuttheyllseeyoulater.Andtheydid.Theystartedmovingandtheywentoutnorth.
AFTERWARDS,WEWENTBACKINANDISAID:WhatdidIjustseetonight?
HESAID:Thatwasus.Wevebeenhereforalongtime,youjustdidntknowit.HESAID:Wepickedyoualongtimeagowhenyouwereasmallchild.Wehavesomethingforyoutodo.
ANDISAID:Imnotunderstandingexactly.
HESAID:Youdonthaveto.Wewillletyouknowwhatitisyoure
supposedtodolateroninlife,butjustgoonwithyourlife,dontworryaboutit.Whateveryouresupposedtolearn,wellseetoitthatyoulearn,andwhenitistimeforyoudowhatwehaveforyoutodo,youllknow.Wellletyouknow.
Afterthat,Iwouldgooverthereontheweekendstovisithimandthemotherandthetwogirls,andwewouldgoouttothedesertsometimes,gowayoutinthedesert.Thegirls,withtheirmother,wouldgoforawalk,andheandIwouldwalkinthedesert,andhewouldtellme
aboutallthedifferentalienlifeformsthatareoutthere,wheretheyhavecomefrom,theonesthatarehere.
ANDHETOLDME:Youhaveenemieshere.Youhavesomeverypowerfulenemiesherefromotherplacesthathavecome,andtheyknowwhoyouare,andtheyknowwhatyouregoingtodo.Sojustbecarefulinyourlife,butwellprotectyou.
Ididntknowwhathewastalkingabout.
AndthenonedayIwentovertothehouseonemorning,andthehousewastotallyopen,andtheyregone.Everythingwaspackedandgoneand
thegirlnevertoldmeshewasleaving.Theydnevercometotellmeanything.Theywerejustgone.
NowthatIlookbackonthatexperience,Ifeelverysecureinsayingthatheknewwhathewasdoing.HESAID:Imstartingyouonyourjourney,andhedid.Butafterthatwasdone,thenhemoveson.
KC:Doyoubelievethatyoureatthatplace,thatjuncturewherehewastalkingabout:Youregoingtoknow...?Hasanothermessagecomerecently,ordoyoufeelthatyourerightonthecuspofsomething?
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JM:IfeelalongthebeginningofsomethingandImstillnotsurewhatallofthismeans.Imnotsurewhatitmeans.AllIknowisthatIhavesomevaluablestuffthatsgoingtoreallyknockpeopleoutwhentheyseeit,butIdontunderstanditfullyyet.IvetalkedwithZechariaaboutit.Ivetalkedwithmanyotherspeakersandpeoplethatareinthespeakingcircuitthatareknowledgeableonthesubject.
Butmygutfeeling...andincidentally,gut,G-U-T,issimplyGodinScandinavian.GODisEnglish,dogspelledbackwards.ButGodin,IthinkitsSwedenandScandinaviancountries,isspelledG-U-T.Sowhenyousayyouvegotagutfeeling,thatsGodinScandinavian.
ButmygutfeelingisthatIdontknowthefullpictureyet,butImgettingtherenow.After48years,Inowknowthatmy48yearsofstudy,dayinanddayout,researching,reading,studyinginlibraries,wasforareason,sothatwhenthetimewouldcome,IwouldatleastbesufficientlyeducatedinthisdarksubjectwhichImtalkingabout.AtleastIvegotsomebackgroundinitnow,tobeabletounderstandthesignificanceofit.
AndIthinkitsreallyfrighteningtome.Itactuallyisstillrather
frighteningbecause,beinghuman,andwatchingtheworld,whereitsgoing...andIalreadyknowthesymbols,thewords[and]theterms.Ialreadyknowthehistoryofthesecretsocietiesandthemovementsofthebankers.
Ivesatandtalkedwithallkindsofpeoplearoundtheworld;withHakim,mydearfriendHakim,theHammitepriestinEgypt--wevesatoutbythePyramidsatnightandtalkedabouttheancientHammitepriesthood,andIwasblessedinthePyramid.
HakimblessedmeintheKingsChamber;Ilaidinthesarcophagusandhedidawholeprayerritualoverme.Ivesat,likeIsaid,forhoursandtalkedwithhiminprivateaboutthingsthathavehappenedtome.
SoIamtotallyconvincedthattheresnothingspecialaboutme,butIhavebeengiventheopportunitytobeinthecompanyoffascinatingpeople,tolearnmonstrouslyfascinatingthings,andultimately,Ithinkthatthereissomethingformetodo.Imjustnotsureyetwhatitis.
KC:Doyouhappentohaveanideawhatracethismanwasfrom?Doyouhaveaplanet?Doyouhaveanyidea?Inotherwords,doyouthinkhewasAnunnaki,doyouthinkhewasNordic,doyouthinkhewasPleiadian?Doyouhaveanyidea?
JM:No,notreally,becauseheappearedtobeanextraordinarilyordinary-lookingguy,justanordinaryguyyouwouldmeet.ButwhenIwasinhispresence,itwasmonstrous--thefeeling.Iknew:Thisisnotanormalman.
KC:Didhischildrenhaveadifferentauraoradifferentfeelingaboutthem?
JM:No.No.Theyseemedtobeveryordinary,andthemother.
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KC:Butdidntyoutellmejustrecently,andcorrectmeifImwrong,butIthinkyouwereoutinthedesertandyouhadsomethinghappenoutthere.
JM:Oh!Yeah!
KC:Veryrecently.
JM:Ohyeah.Nono,thatsadifferentstory.
KC:Well,isitcompletelydifferent?Isitpossiblethattherewassomekindof...?
JM:Well...No,youreright.Youreright.Therecouldverywellbesomekindofaconnectionwithwhathappenedtomejustafewyearsagoandthatoriginalincidentbackin1959.Yes,verypossible.
Thatwasanotherextraordinaryexperience.Ivehad36,whatIcallpeakexperiences.Imeanmonstrousexperiences.Thatwasmerelyone.Butyes,Ivehadsomeveryinterestingandemotionally-drenchingexperiencesoutonthedesertsofNevada.
OnethingIwilltellyou,whichisjustmyopinion:IamtotallyconvincedformyselfthatatArea51,thatbasewecallArea51,there
isnodoubtinmymindthatthereareextraterrestriallifeformsthere.Nodoubtinmymindaboutitatall,becauseofwhatIvepersonallyseenandexperiencedwhenIwasatRachels.Ivehadtoomanystrangethingshappentomethatwereother-worldly,in-your-face,likeone-on-one.
AndsotheresnodoubtinmymindthatwhatIexperiencedoutthere...Wehadanaliencomeinthemobilehome.Myfriend,PaulTice,andmyladyfriendfromHawaii,Ivy--allthreeofus,analiencameinthebedroom.SotheresnodoubtinmymindtheressomethingreallyoffthewallgoingonoutthereatArea51thatwearenot
awareof.ButIvehadmanyotherworldexperiencesoutthere,notjust...
Youknow,Icantstanditwhenpeoplesaythatthisisallhightechnologyofourgovernment.No.Idontbuythatforaminute.WhatIveseenwithmyowneyes,Idontbuyitforaminute.Ifithasanythingtodowithourgovernment,thenwhatIhaveactuallywitnessedwithmyowneyes,ifithastodowiththeU.S.government,thenitmeansthattheU.S.governmentisinleaguewithextraterrestrials,becausewhatIsawisextraterrestrialinorigin.AndwhatIveexperienced...KC:Thankyouforthat.Thatsvery,veryvaluabletohearyousaythat.
Canyoutalkaboutthepossibilityofwhatthesehumansthatarebeingcreated,whattheirdestinymightbe?Inotherwords,yousaytheymightnothavefeelings,etcetera,etcetera.Anddoyoufeelthatperhapsthisisworkinginwithyour,sortof,destinythattheyweretalkingabout?
Becausethesesubjectsweretalkingaboutrighthereandnow...IactuallywenttoEgyptwithyouandWilliamHenryandthatgroup.Ididhaveashortinterviewwithyouatthattime.Youwerentwilling
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totalkaboutthatthen.Ithinkthatnowyouremuchmorewilling.Thismessagethatyouhaveseemstobeculminatinginwhatyouresaying,inthissymbolthatwetalkedaboutinthebeginningofthisinterview.Isitpossiblethatthisisgoingtobethemessage:theunfoldingofwhatyouknow?
JM:MyfeelingisthatthereasonwhyImheredoingwhatImdoingisbecauseofthismutationwhichisbeingfoistedonthehumanrace,itsbeingforcedonthehumanrace.ThischangethattheMastersoftheUniverse,sotospeak,haveinmindforthehumanraceisbeingfoistedonus.
AndIbelieveagain,justmyopinionthatthatsmypartinthiscosmicschemeorthiscosmicplay,istocallpeoplebacktotheirhumanityandletthemknow:Yourebeingleddownthegardenpathintosomethingyoudontknowwhatscoming.Youhadbettergetbacktoyourrootsofbeinghumanandstartreestablishingyourhumanitybecausethehumanraceislosingitshumanity.
Thewayweweredesignedbytheoriginalcreatorswasabeautifulthing.Imean,whenyoulookatchildrenandlittleanimals,youhavetoknowthatwhoeverdesignedusdesignedhumansandlifeformstobebeautiful,tobecharming,tobeabeautifulthing,toliveinabeautifulworldwithchildrenandgorgeousandbeautifulthingswhich
upliftthespirit.
ButIamtotallyconvincedthatthereisnowontheEarth,againforlackofabetterterm,alienpresencewhicharetheenemiesofthehumanrace,andtheyareobviouslyenemiesofwhoevertheoriginalcreatorsofus,becauseofthethingsIvebeentoldthatthepeopleortheentitieswhocreatedus,thegodswhocreatedus,haveenemiesoutthereintheuniverse.
Theyhavecomeheretoseewhatthesegodsaredoing,whatthesealiensaredoing.Andtheyrecomingheresaying:Mm.Iseewhattheyredoing.Theyrecreatingthesecreatures.Whydontwemovein?likeagang.Whydontwemoveinandtakeoverandtakethis
beautifulcreationthatthesegodshavecreatedandmutateitintowhatwewant?Andso,tomutatethewholehumanraceawayfromtheirnaturalevolutionofsocietyandhumanityintoawholenewkindofcivilization.
IthinkthatthatsprobablywhatImheretodo,istocallattentiontotheworldthatyourebeingmisledbysomeextraordinarilypowerful,occult,mystical,other-worldtechnologythatischangingtheevolutionofthehumanracefromwhatitwassupposedtobeinitscreation,asopposedtowherethedarkpowersoftheworldarenowleadingthehumanraceintoadifferentworld.Andwhattheyhaveinmindforus,youdontwanttoknow.
KC:Okay.
JM:Thepeoplewhoareinpowertodayinthiscountryandaroundtheworldhavesomethinginmindthatyouhavenoideaintheworldhowbaditsreallygoingtobe,becausetherewillbenolongeranyplaceforfreedom,intellectualfreedom,spiritualfreedom,liberty,justicenoneofthat.Itsgone.
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KC:Okay.Butyouareprotectedandyouvebeentoldthisoverandoveragain,andthispersonthatyoumetwaybackwhosortofstartedyouonyourjourneywasalsopartofaracethathasbeenvisitinghereandislookingoutforyou,inessence.Youvetoldatleastmesomepersonalstoriesinwhichyouwereprotectedtherewasreasonsyouweretoldtoleavearoomatacertainopportunemoment,andsoonandsoforth.
JM:Thatsright.AndIhavehadthathappentomeoverandoverandoveragain.
KC:Right.Sothatmeanstheresaforceforgood...
JM:ProfoundlydangerousthingshappeningandatthemomentIjustdidnotknow,walkedoutandsometerrible,dangerousthinghappened,andIneverevenheardaboutit.
KC:Sothereseemstobeaforceforgood,someWhiteHatsbehindthescenes...
JM:Yes.
KC:...someofwhomhaveactuallytalkedtoyoufacetoface,
protectedyou.Onethatpassedonrecentlycomestomind.
JM:Right.
KC:Thesepeoplewhomighthavebeenworkingbehindthescenes,eveninplacesthat,youknow,madethemappeartobeworkingforthedarkside,ifyouwill.
JM:Yeah,theestablishment.Butinpointoffact,theywereextremelypowerfulpeopleandveryhighplaced.
KC:Workingforthelight.
JM:Workingforthelight.ANDTHEYTOLDME:Weknowwhatyouredoing.ONEOFTHEMTOLDME:Youhavesomeverypowerfulfriendsthatyoudontevenknowexist,andtheyreprotectingyou.
Iknow.Ihavehadthe...Imnotgoingtogetintothedetails,butIhaveactuallywitnessedprotectionfromthehighestsourcesinthiscountrystepintosomethingthatwasvery,veryserioushappeninginrelationtome,andIwasreallyfrightened,becauseIknewtheimplicationsofwhatshappeningandtheycouldbeveryseriousforme.Imaynotbearoundmuchlonger,Iveheardfromthetop.
AndthenallofasuddenIgetacommunicationfromWashington,D.C.,fromthehighestofficethere,saying:Dontworryaboutit,wetook
careofit.Justgoonanddontworryaboutit.AndIwasamazedfromWashington,D.C.!Somebodythathighupcallsmeandsays:Dontworryaboutit.Justgoonaboutyourlife.Noonesgoingtobotheryou.Andtheydidnt.
Ivehadthishappenmany,manytimeswhensomethingveryserious...veryseriousthreatsagainstmylifeandagainstmywork.Igetaphonecallorsomeonewillwalkuptomeinapublicplaceandsay:Jordan,thatthingthatyouvebeenworriedaboutthelasttwoweeks?
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Yeah.
Wetookcareofit.Moveon.Dontworryaboutit.
Ithought:Well...Imean,Imstillhere,Imstillalive,[Kerrylaughs]soIknowthatIhavebeenprotected.Iknowthat.
KC:Absolutely.
DW:Wherewouldthetruthmovementbewithoutyou?Specifically,Zeitgeistisamoviethatwasinthetopfivemost-viewedonGoogleVideoforlikeayearatleastandIwouldliketheProjectCamelotviewerstobeapprisedofthesituationinregardstoyourinvolvementwithZeitgeistbecauseitseemslikeManagement,asIcallthem,putyouinapositioninwhichthewholeconspiracytheorymovementwouldntbeanywherenearwhatitisnowifitwasntforyourinfluence.
JM:Yes,Zeitgeistisatwo-hourmoviemadebyaguynamedPeterJosephinNewYork.Ididntknowanythingaboutit,butPeterJosephproducedatwo-hourvideoandthelastthatweheard...becauseonZeitgeistitwasoneofthefirsttimesGooglepulledthecounteroffofsomethingthatsonGoogleVideo?Usuallyitwouldhaveacounter,
howmanypeoplehaveseenthisvideo.Theypulledthecounter.Theypulledit,Ithinkitwasat28millionwhentheypulleditandthatwaslikeayear-and-a-halfago.
KC:Andthatsbasedallonyourwork,isntit?
JM:Allofitwasbasedonmywork.JeffRensehadPeterJoseph...andyoucangotomywebsite,www.Jordanmaxwell.com,andgototheaudio/videopage.OneofthefirstentriesisabigbannersayingZeitgeistInterview,anditsonlyaboutfiveminuteslong.
ButJeffRenseinterviewedPeterJosephaboutZeitgeistandtalkedabouthow,youknow,theypulledthecounterayear-and-a-halfagoat
28millionanditsprobablymorethan50millionnow.
BUTHESAID:Whydidyoumakethisvideo?
ANDHE[PeterJoseph]SAID:BecausethewholethingwasJordanMaxwellswork.Iwaslisteningtohim;IvebeenfollowinghisworkandIjustdecidedsincehehasntdoneanything,Iwill.
Soheputallofmyworktogetheronreligion,ancienttheology,theFederalReserve,banking,and9/11andallthatnonsense,andputitalltogetherintoatwo-hourvideocalledZeitgeist,whichIamtoldbypeople...
MyfriendsinHollywood(andIvelivedinHollywoodfor48years)myfriendshavesaidthatiftheyhad28millionandtheypulleditoffayearago;probablyseenby50millionthatsaverygoodshowinginHollywood!Ifyoucanget50millionpeoplewatchingsomethingthatrepresentsyou,thatsprettyheadystuffinHollywood.
KC:Absolutely.
JM:Ididntdoit.Ididntevenknowanythingaboutit.Butsince
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then,therehavebeenaboutsixotherprofessionally-presentedvideosdoneonmethatIhadnoidea.Peoplewouldcallandtellme:TheresanhourshowonyouinEngland;theresanhourshowonyouinFrance.
Germanyactuallycameover--theNationalGermanNetwork--cameover,anddidanhourprogramonme,andtheyhadArnoldSchwarzeneggerinit,andthewholethingwasinGerman.[Kerrylaughs]Istillhaveacopyofittheysentme.ItwasdoneinGermanonme.
KC:Iunderstand.Now,Idontknowifyourewillingtotalkaboutthis,butZechariaSitchinandyousatdownandyouaskedhimtotellyouasecret.Basedonallyourtimewithhim,thethingsthatyouhaddoneforhim,etcetera,etcetera,youbasicallysaid:TellmesomethingthatIdontknow.
JM:Yeah.
KC:Areyouwillingtotalkaboutthat?
JM:No.
KC:BecauseIthinkthatthatisacluethatpeoplewouldreallybenefitfromknowing.
JM:Yeah.IdontthinkIwanttotalkaboutthat.
KC:Okay.
JM:Because...
KC:DoyoufeelthatZechariawouldnotlikethatinformationoutthere?
JM:No.ItwasthatitwasaprivateconversationandwhenIasked
him...Because,likeIsaid,atonetimeIwasinbusinesswithZecharia.Ihadacontractwithhim,andsowewerebusinesspartners,andsoIfeltalittlebitmoreofaleewaytotalkwithZechariainprivate.SoIaskedhimonetimesomeverypersonalquestionsabouthisworkanditwasabsolutelymind-blowingandstaggering,thethingshewastellingme.
Andthen...Wellanyway,thenhetoldmesomethingsaboutmyselfandIwasamazed.Ineverheardsuchathing,thatwhathewasbeingtold,orwhereverhegotitfrom,hehadaviewonme,whoIamandwhatIm
doing.Butatthattimeweweretalking,itwasaprivateconversation,andIthinkitdbebetterjustleftprivate.
KC:Okay.Fine.
JM:AllIwillsayisthis:ZechariaSitchinisafascinatingmanandabrilliantwriter,andIloveeverythinghesdoing,andIlovetheman.HesaverydearfriendandIloveZechariaSitchin.Hesavery,verygentlemankindofguy,andso...Ilikethat.
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KC:Okay.Wouldyouclassifywhatyouvebeentalkingabout,inasense,asawarthatisgoingon,onaspirituallevel?
JM:Yes.Nodoubtaboutit.
KC:Fortheheartsandmindsofhumanity?
JM:Yes.Absolutely.ThereisaspiritualwargoingonrightnowandHollywoodsmakingmoviesaboutitWaroftheWorlds,StevenSpielberg.IvesaidsomanytimesthatStevenSpielbergandGeorgeLucasaremanythings,butstupidisnotoneofthem.[laughs]
StevenSpielbergistryingtotellyousomething.Inoneofhisinterviewsafewyearsback,Irememberhesaidthathedoesnot...StevenSpielbergsaid:Idontmakemoviestoentertain,necessarily;Imakemoviestocommentonimportantissuesoftheday.
AndlookingatSpielbergswork,whichisgenius...somethingIwanttosayaboutSpielberg:IvewatchedalotofproductionsandIvebeeninHollywoodforalongtime,48yearsIvelivedinNorthHollywoodandHollywood,andIhavemany,many,manyfriendsintheindustry.Ialreadyknow,becauseIvebeentold,thatvirtuallyallthemajornamesinHollywoodknowwhoIamandtheyshouldIve
beentalkingfor48years![laughs]Andtheyreusingallmystuffnow,sotheyshouldknowme.
ButStevenSpielbergisoneofthemostcleverpeopleIhaveeverwatchedapersonswork,becauseheputs...acoupleofthings.Oneis:hesasticklerforaccuracyoncostumesandtermsthatareused,soanytimeyouseeanythingthatSpielberghasmade,itsveryaccuratetheclothingthatwouldhavebeenworninthosedays,thewaythepeoplewouldhavetalked,itsveryaccuratelydone.Sohesasticklerforaccuracy.
ButthethingIreallyappreciateaboutStevenSpielbergisheputslittlethings,littlesmallthingsthatyouwouldneverseeifyoure
notlookingforit,thatarereallyamind-blower,aWow.Backthatup,andthatonescenewiththatoneperson,whattheysaid...hesamasteratdoingthat.Hesamasteratputtingpowerfulthingsinsomelittleinsignificantscene,soifyourenotwatching,youllnevergettoseetherealgeniusofStevenSpielberg.IlovewatchinghismoviesbecauseIknowwhatImlookingfor.
KC:Sohesusingsymbolism.
JM:Ohyeah!
KC:Alloverhismovies.
JM:Everywhere!AndGeorgeLucas,equal.GeorgeLucasisbrilliant,inmyopinion.HesaidhewasheavilyinfluencedbyJosephCampbell,thefamous...
KC:Yes.
JM:AndJosephCampbellwasanincrediblydearman.IjustlovedlisteningtoJosephCampbellexplainmythologiesandallthesymbolsoftheancientpeople.
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KC:Didyouknowhim?
JM:No,IneverhadachancetomeetJosephCampbell.
KC:WhataboutArthurC.Clarke?Didyoumeethim?
JM:No,IneverhadachancetomeetArthurC.Clarkeeither,butIwouldlovetohave.Ivehadopportunitiestobeinthecompanyofpeoplelikethat,butIwasnotinapositiontotravel,Ididnthavethemoney,Iwasinadepressedstateofmind,andsoIletsomeveryimportantpeoplegobythatIcouldhavebeenwith.
IusedtobeontheboardofdirectorsofanorganizationinHollywoodthiswasquiteafewyearsagocalledUSofA.USofAwasUnitedSensitivesofAmerica.ThisorganizationwasfoundedinBurbankandIcameinataveryearlyperiodandIendedupbeingontheboardofdirectorsofUSofA.Ireallydidnttakeawholelotofchargeinit.Themanwhostarteditprettymuchranit,butinwords,Iwasontheboardofdirectors.
Butanyway,itwasanorganizationwherenumerologists,astrologers,allkindsofesotericdisciplineswouldcometogetherandwewouldput
onshows,expos,andalsoonceayearwewouldputonanawardshowwherewewouldhonorcertainmoviestarsfortheirworkfeedingthepoororwhatever.
KC:Butwerentyoualsoinvolvedinmaybediscoveringmurdersuspects?
JM:Ohyeah.
KC:Andalsoocculthappeningsthatweregoingon.
JM:Everytwoweeks,Ithinkitwaslikeeverytwoweeks,wewouldmeetabout9:00intheeveningupintheHollywoodHillsfromthe
Hollywoodsign.Wewouldbeupthere,andtheredbeabout50peopleupthereinthisbig,hugehomethatwasownedbyamoviestarwhohadpassedaway.Itwasahuge,bighomeandthefrontroomwasjustenormousinsizeandtherewouldbelike50peoplethereeverytwoweeks.Therewouldbeagroupofastrologers,agroupofpsychics,agroupofnumerologists,thisgroupandthatgroup,andtheywerealldifferentdisciplinesintheesotericsciences.
AndwewouldhavethePoliceDepartmentortheSheriffsDepartmentusuallyitwasLAPDwouldcomeup,sheriffacoupleoftimestooandtheywouldcomeup.Wehadabigblackboardandtheywouldhavepicturesuponthewallofthecasethattheywantedustotalkabout.
Theywouldshowusthepersonwhowaskidnapped,orthebodythatwasfound,orwhateverthecasewas,andthentheofficerincharge,usuallyadetective,wouldwritedownorhaveitalreadywrittendown,allthepertinentinformationthatthePoliceDepartmenthadandeachgroupsatwithagroup.Alltheastrologerssattogether...
KC:Idowanttoaskyouwhichgroupwereyouamong?Wereyoupsychic?
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JM:No.Iwaswiththepeoplewhowereputtingiton.ItwasallbeingsponsoredbytheUSofA,UnitedSensitivesofAmerica,andsinceIwasontheboard,Iwasthererepresentingthecompanythatsputtingthisthingtogether.
LikeIsaid,wealsowouldhaveawardceremoniesonceayearinwhichwewouldgiveawardstodifferentpeoplewhoweredoingdifferentthingsforhumanity.IwasprivilegedtobeabletobetheretogiveManlyPalmerHallanawardforhisworkinservicetotheworld.
ManlyPalmerHall,Ibelieve,wasoneofthefinestandmostdearestmenIhaveevermetinmylife.Hewasnotonlycharming,anextraordinarilybrilliantmind,buthewasoneofthemostdecentandbeautifulpeoplethatIhaveever,personally,haveevermet.
ManlyPalmerHallwasanextraordinaryteacher.Heneverpromotedanything.Hemerelyeducatedpeople,as:Thisiswherethiscamefrom;thisiswherethatcamefrom;thisiswhatthatwordmeans.Sohewasaneducator.PeoplehavecalledhimallkindsofnamesbecausehewasaMason.Iknewhimpersonally.Ivebeentohishome.Whenhedied,heleftmeabeautifulgiftallofhisresearchjournals,helefttome.
KC:Thatsamazing.
JM:IwasshockedwhenIgotaphonecallfromthePhilosophicalResearchSocietyinLosAngelesandObadiahHarris,thepresidentatthattime,said:Mr.Hallwantedyoutohavesomethingwhenhepassedaway.
ANDISAID:Whatisit?IwasinSanDiego.
ANDHESAID:Imnotgoingtotellyou.Justcomepickitup.SoIdroveupthatdaytoLosAngelesfromSanDiegoanditwasalloftheresearchjournalsofManlyPalmerHall,hegavetome.AndIconsider
thattobeamonumentalgiftfromaverypowerfulman.
KC:Didyoufindsomecluestheretofollowout?[laughs]
JM:Tonsofstuffthere.
KC:Okay.
JM:ManlyPalmerHall,asIsaid,wasoneofthegreatestteacherstheworldhaseverknown.Inmyhumbleopinion,IdontthinkthereseverbeeninanyeraoftimeamantocomeclosetowhatManlyPalmerHallwasabletodo.Anyonewhohasanopenmindandofcourse,yourmindislikeaparachute:itdoesntworkifitsnotopenanyone
whoisintellectuallyhonest,whichyoudontfindverymuch--intellectuallyhonestwithanopenmind,matureandintelligentpersonlookingattheworkofManlyPalmerHallwouldhavetosaythisisoneofthegreatestmenthateverlived.
Idontknowhowmany...maybe70or80booksonesotericsubjectsofthewholeworld;over46setsoflectures,likesix90-minuteaudiolecturesof46esotericsubjectsoftheworld.
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KC:Wonderful.
JM:Incredible.Plusthousandsoflectures.Incidentally,Ihaveeverythingheeverdid.EverylectureheeverdidIhave,digitized.Monumentalwork.ButhewasapersonalfriendofmineandIlovedhimdearly.ImsayingthisbecausetherearesomanypeoplewhoputhimdownbecausehewasaMason.Hewasawonderfulteacher,abrilliantman,towhichhisdetractorscouldnotevenholdacandle.
KC:Ihearyou.
JM:Andhesnottheonlyone.IhaveotherpeopleIfeelthesamewayabout.
KC:Okay.Howdoyoufeel,justtochangegearsherealittlebit,aboutthecurrentadministrationofObama?
JM:[sighs]Well,Imnotpoliticalassuch.PersonallyIthinkIoughttochoosemywordscarefullyherebecauseIlikeObamaasaperson,andhesverypersonable;hesthekindofguyIwouldlovetositandchatwith.Hischildrenarebeautiful,hiswifeisaveryintelligentlady.AndsoIdonthaveanythingagainstObamaorhisfamily.Ithinktheyreverypersonableandveryinterestingpeople.
Butitsthepowersbehindhim,thatherepresents,thatsfrighteningtome.Iknowthingsaboutthepeoplewhoarebehindhimthatisabsolutelystaggering,frightening.Iliveinfearofwhatscoming,becauseofwhatIknownotbecauseofwhatIbelieveorthinkbecauseofwhatIknow.
KC:Areyoutalkingaboutwar?Areyoutalkingaboutanagendathatinvolveswar?WorldWarThree?
JM:Well,thatsalwayspossible.Letmegobackandsaythis.Again,IhavenothingagainstObamaasapersonandIlikehim.Thefamily,nothingagainstthematall.ButthesymbolthatIwastellingyou
about,thatIvebeenworkingon...DidyoueverseethemovieorthetelevisionshowV?
KC:Oh,absolutely.
JM:Theveryfirstone?
KC:Yes.
JM:Well,ABCisnowremakingV.Theyreremakingit.AndIwasshockedsomeonesentmeanemail.IthinktheywereinHollywood,andtheysentmeanemailwithapicturefromthenewmoviecomingout
soon.Ithinkitsgoingtocomeoutinthenextmonthorso,amade-for-televisionmoviebyABC.
KC:Oh,really?Okay.Fabulous.
JM:Disney/ABC.
KC:Veryinteresting.
JM:Okay?
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KC:Okay.Yeah?
JM:AnditsgoingtobecalledVanditsaremakeoftheoriginal.
KC:Okay.
JM:Butinit,theextraterrestrialswhoarereferredtoastheVisitors?TheVisitorsinthenewonearegivingtothepublicapamphletexplainingtheir(quote)NewWorldOrderthattheyarebringingtoplanet?
KC:Right.
JM:Andthepicture,whichIhave,shockedme.MykneesgotweakandIhadtositdown.Itwasshocking.ItwastheVisitors,thealienvisitorswholookedlikehumans,werehandingoutpamphletstothepeopleabouttheirNewOrderthattheyweregoingtobringinandthetitleofthepamphletwas:TheDawnofaNewDay--theverywordsthatIhavebeenresearchingforsome40yearsisnowgoingtobeinthemovie,thenewV.
KC:Okay.
JM:AndImtellingyou,thatisnotonlysignificant,itsmind-blowingwhenIgiveyouthewholestory.[Kerrylaughs]ABCandDisneyaretellingyousomethingaboutthissymbolthatIvebeenlookingatforalongtimeanditsgoingtoberightinyourface.BecauseImtellingyou,thatsymbolisgoingtobecomethemostimportantsymbolaroundtheglobe,forthefirsttimeinthepublicview.
AnytimeyouwanttodoresearchonthehiddenstufflikeIvedone,itseverywhere.Butno,nowbecauseofObama,nowthesecretsocietiesofthewhatIthinkareextraterrestrialmastersofthisworldaregoingtobringthissymboloutintotheworld,soeveryonecanseeit.
Andeventuallywhatsgoingtohappenisthatthewholehumanraceisgoingtowakeup.Andthisismyopinionabout2012myopinionof2012istheresgoingtobeanawakeningforthewholeworld:Wevebeenhad!Theyregoingtoseethisisanancientthingthatsbeencomingforalongtimeandweneversawit,wedidntunderstandit.
ButwhenmyvideocomesoutthatIwanttodoitsgoingtobelikeathree-hourstep-by-steponObamassymbol,JimmyCarter,allthePresidents,theBushes,theentiresuperstructureofWesternCivilization,andwhatthisstuffreallymeans,andwhereitisreallycomesfrom.
Ithink,andImnottryingtoaggrandizemyself,butIreallybelievethatitsgoingtocausequiteasensationwhenpeopleseewhatIreallyam,thatIvenevertoldanyonebefore.
AndwhenIseeObamausingthesameterms,thesamesymbol,thesameonethattheCommunistsused,theNazishaveused,thefascistshaveused,thesecretsocietiesaroundtheworldofFreemasonryhaveused;theBabylonians;asIsaid,alltheancientEgyptianstheyallusedthesameword,term,andsymbol.
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AndnowABCiscomingout,Disney/ABCiscomingoutwithanewremakeofVandinit,theextraterrestrialsthatlooklikehumans,whoarebringinga(quote)NewOrdertotheworld,andthepamphletinthemovieiscalledDawnofaNewDay!
ISAID:WOW!Icannotbelievehowoverwhelminglyobviousthissecretsymbolisnowbecoming,andthatswhyIwilldothisvideoonit.
KC:Butwereyoutoldmoreaboutthemovie?Moreaboutwheretheyregoingwithit,inotherwords?Imassumingyouhaventseenityet.
JM:No,Ihaventseenityet,butIwatchedtheotheronesomanytimes.Andtheotherones,ifyouremembertheoriginal,theVisitors,theywerewonderfulpeople.Theywereverygraciousandcharming.Andthenremembertheladywhowasinchargeofthevisitors,shewasthehighestranking,shewentintoaroomandpulledoffherfaceitwasareptilealien?
KC:Yes.
JM:Ipersonally,IbroughtDavidIcketoAmerica.HewasinAmericabecauseIbroughthimhere,personally.
KC:Yes.
JM:AndsoImsayingthatIamtotallyconvincedbeyondashadowofadoubt,formyself,thattherearesuchthingsasreptilealiens,thoughIhaveneverseenone,thankGod.ButItotallybelievetheyarehere.NotbecauseofDavidIcke,notbecauseofCredoMutwa,whoIlovelisteningto,awonderful,fascinatingman.DavidIckehasdonegreatstuff.ButIbelievetherearereptilealienshere,becauseofmyownpersonalresearch.
Ihavebeeninthecompanyofatleasteightpeopleoverthepastmany
years,eightdifferentpeople...eachoneisextraordinarilywell-grounded,people.Airlinepilot,one,withamajorairline.
AverywealthymaninLasVegaswhobuysandsellscommercialhotelsandbuildings,etceteraextremelywealthymanChristian,incidentally,veryChristianman,butvery,verywealthyandveryhighlyintelligentmansatdownandtoldmeabouthispersonalone-on-onewithareptilealieninwhichmanyothersinhischurchwereprivytosee.ThatsawholestoryinitselfthathappenedinColorado.Andthentohavescientists...
Andayoungladywhowasoneofmyfavoritepeopleintheworld,a
youngladycalledNancy,whojustblewmeaway.OnmyradioshowIusedtohaveashow;Ivehadsevendifferentradioshowsinmylife.Idliketogetbackonradioanddomyownshowagain.ButIhadashowonKPFKhereinLosAngeles,FMstation,andonenightIhadNancyonandNancyjustblewtheaudienceaway.Sheissofeminine,soincrediblycharmingandfemininegirl,talkingaboutstuffthatwillblowyourmind.KC:[laughs]
JM:HerfatherwasintheAirForce.HerfamilywasAirForce,but
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herfatherwasinchargeofProjectRetrievablesfortheAirForcethemanwhowasinchargeofgoingoutwhereverintheworld[therewas]anyextraterrestrialactivity.HewasinchargeintheAirForcetogotherefirst,andhewastheboss,andshesaidthemodusoperandiwasalwaysthesame.Illhavetomakeyouacopyofhertwo...Ivegottwotwo-hourinterviewsthatwilljustknockyouout.
KC:Idlovetohear.
JM:Youcouldtellthisisaverycharminggirl,buttellingyoustuffthatyouregoingtohavetositdowntodealwith.[laughs]
Shesaidwherevertheywouldgo;shealwayslivedonmilitarybases.Andshesaidalwaysthemethodwasthesame...therewasonephoneinthehouseforthefamily,andthentherewasanotherphone,whichnooneevertouched;youneverusedit.
Whenthatphonewouldring,nomatterwhen--twointhemorning,threeinthemorning--itdoesntmatter;ifthatphonerang,herfatherhadtenminutestobefullydressedwithhisbriefcase,andreadytogo.Intenminutesacarwouldpullupandnothingwassaid--novoices,nothingwassaid.Aknockonthedoor,hewouldwalkout;hewouldhavemilitaryescortintothecar,getinthecar,anddriveoff,andnothingsaid.Nobodyknows